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- # [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ed58d156be61 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Backout 5e4eaa3891be due to b-c failures in browser_removeTabsToTheEnd.js
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- # [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3a9b735e3cb - David Zbarsky - Bug 991142 - Remove CreateThebesSurfaceAliasForDrawTarget_hack r=benwa
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- # [01:38] <upsuper> Is there anyone familiar with building on Android platform can have a look at bug 989718?
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- # [03:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc8f1cb05cbc - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 992485. Make nsIMM32Handler::OnUpdateComposition less spammy to the console. r=m_kato
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- # [03:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9bf8ed8f658b - Karl Tomlinson - b=990794 crash on ovrfl in AllocateAudioBlock r=roc
- # [03:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67aa1910829f - Karl Tomlinson - b=990794 crash on ovrfl in SharedBuffer::Create() r=roc
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- # [03:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/780bec5571b9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991028 - Remove AutoOpenSurface. r=nical
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- # [04:43] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7542695
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- # [04:45] <@roc> what?
- # [04:46] <KWierso|afk> roc: the parent link points to 4chan adding webm support
- # [04:48] <@roc> cpearce: ^^^ see bug 963922
- # [04:48] <cpearce> roc: what?
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- # [04:49] <@dolske> what?
- # [04:50] * nemo feels like he woke up a nest of sleepy parrots or something
- # [04:50] <nemo> "what? what? what?"
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- # [04:51] <nemo> I was surprised by the commentary on gifs in background
- # [04:51] <nemo> I thought firefox had gotten really smart about image loading lately
- # [04:51] <nemo> like. unloading even if stuff goes off-viewport - much less background tabs
- # [04:52] <cpearce> they're using <video> instead of animated gifs.
- # [04:53] <cpearce> and they wondering why, on earth, their memory use wentup.
- # [04:53] <cpearce> face, meet palm.
- # [04:53] <@dolske> "Gif HD" haha
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- # [04:56] <tn> nemo, background tab gifs shouldn't animate currently. if he's viewing a gif standalone and firefox uses the gif as the favicon then yes it'll animate because it is onscreen, firefox still animates animated gifs that are on screen
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- # [05:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9085d8ca22e - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 987680. Overlay scrollbars should be placed on top of content. r=roc
- # [05:07] <cpearce> oh god, the <video>s are on loop
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- # [05:11] <jcranmer> so... 4chan users are idiots and people are acting surprised?
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- # [05:12] <dmajor> heh
- # [05:12] <cpearce> well, we do need to be cleverer about how much memory <video> uses. especially when <videos> are open in 100 tabs.
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- # [06:00] <nigelb> Morning
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- # [06:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7248b992c6b2 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991767 - Use Moz2D for printing surfaces. r=roc
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- # [06:11] <philor> oh, that's probably mattwoodrow|away
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- # [06:19] <philor> bz: you probably don't want to think about a charset test from a million years ago on a Sunday night, do you?
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- # [06:23] <philor> oh sure, now you come back!
- # [06:23] <mattwoodrow> damn, too slow
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- # [06:24] <mattwoodrow> I restarted it because I saw the tree was closed and I hadn’t had any pings
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- # [07:03] <mjrosenb> has anyone else noticed that the close button doesn't appear on tree-style-tabs with recent nightlies (the past week or so)
- # [07:03] <mjrosenb> ?
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- # [07:03] <glob> mjrosenb, tree-style-tabs ?
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- # [07:04] <mjrosenb> glob: a useful plugin
- # [07:04] <mjrosenb> eer
- # [07:04] <mjrosenb> addon
- # [07:04] <mjrosenb> not plugin
- # [07:05] <mjrosenb> I basically can't use firefox without it.
- # [07:05] <glob> mjrosenb, ah. i suspect the first port of call then should be the addon author
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- # [07:49] <philor> mattwoodrow|away: guess what?
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- # [07:51] <philor> tn: though the presence of overlay scrollbars means this one might be yours, too
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- # [07:54] <philor> in fact, I think that's a room clearer, everybody out of the pool
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- # [08:06] <dougt> m-i is still busted?
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- # [08:07] <dougt> philor: awesome work.
- # [08:08] <philor> I'm particularly fond of the way b2g offers the chance to have the same reftest fail in two different chunks on the same OS
- # [08:09] <dougt> philor: why would you ever want it any other way?
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- # [08:09] <dougt> i mean, life is too short to be consistent and shit... right?
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- # [08:10] <philor> aww, I don't get to clear the room after all, it's all tn
- # [08:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe57c073f019 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out b9085d8ca22e (bug 987680) for b2g reftest failures and passes
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- # [08:31] <doctor> firefox broke copy & paste :-\
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- # [08:31] <doctor> Assertion failure: selection->GetAnchorFocusRange() && selection->GetAnchorFocusRange()->Collapsed() (Selection not collapsed after delete), at ../../../../editor/libeditor/base/nsEditor.cpp
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- # [08:32] <glob> doctor, works for me. file a bug :)
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- # [08:33] * doctor expands glob
- # [08:33] <doctor> glob: in order to file a bug I would need to be able to use firefox :)
- # [08:34] <doctor> glob: bah, I'll file one
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- # [08:34] <glob> doctor, :)
- # [08:34] <glob> doctor, make sure to include clear steps to reproduce, and your system's information
- # [08:34] <glob> i'm on osx running the latest nightly, and haven't hit any issues with copypasta
- # [08:35] <doctor> glob: yeah
- # [08:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2db1c06a933 - Peter Chang - Bug 988713 - Fix the race condition between TextureClient::Finalize() and TextureChild::ActorDestroy(), r=nical
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- # [08:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> same here
- # [08:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> wfm
- # [08:35] <doctor> glob: this is not my first bug I've reported
- # [08:36] <doctor> fwiw, not all copy and pastes cause this bug
- # [08:36] <doctor> I could reproduce it easily
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- # [08:36] <doctor> but I'm not sure why
- # [08:36] <glob> doctor, k. it's very hard to tell that just from the name 'doctor' :)
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- # [08:36] <KWierso|afk> goodnight, Tomcat|sheriffduty :)
- # [08:36] <doctor> glob: is not a very unique name either -- its not even obvious if you've been expanded yet or not
- # [08:37] <glob> lol
- # [08:37] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good night KWierso|afk :)
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- # [08:38] <doctor> glob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=992748
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- # [08:38] <doctor> you even get a free backtrace
- # [08:40] <glob> doctor, fwiw doesn't crash for me
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- # [08:40] <doctor> glob: you mentioned OSX
- # [08:40] <doctor> glob: this is on *nix
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- # [08:40] <doctor> glob: also, as my followup comment says
- # [08:41] <doctor> I may not have provided sufficient conditions to repro
- # [08:41] <doctor> however, I am able to make it happen fairly consistently
- # [08:41] <doctor> so I'm not sure what I might be missing
- # [08:41] <glob> doctor, ah, i didn't see your followup comment
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- # [08:43] <glob> hehe :)
- # [08:43] <glob> nice expanding of that glob
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- # [08:47] <mattwoodrow> philor: Did I lose twice?
- # [08:47] <mattwoodrow> oh, no, looks like I managed a 50% hit rate
- # [08:47] <philor> mattwoodrow: nope, you just made the mistake of finishing building b2g first, before tn's push which broke reftests with names that sounded more like your push
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- # [08:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning nigelb
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- # [09:09] <tedders1> Hey, I got a question.
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- # [09:09] <tedders1> I'm an employee of Mozilla, but I'm thinking of contributing some code that I wrote in my spare time.
- # [09:10] <tedders1> I know that the Contributors agreement requires that I submit the code under a license that is agreeable to Mozilla.
- # [09:10] <tedders1> Does anyone know if the Beerware license is acceptable to Mozilla?
- # [09:10] <tedders1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware
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- # [09:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4937c83749e4 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991028 - Stop using OpenDescriptor in ContentClientIncremental. r=nical
- # [09:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41d045863cbf - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991028 - Remove AutoOpenSurface. r=nical
- # [09:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/814f77d08ee7 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991028 - Remove deprecated IPDL SurfaceDescriptor types. r=nical
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- # [09:13] <gcp> tedders1: http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/license-policy.html
- # [09:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4568d98ca5f9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991028 - Get rid of OpenDescriptor/CloseDescriptor. r=nical
- # [09:14] <tedders1> gcp: Thanks. Oh well. I was hoping I might get a free beer out of this one day. Too bad.
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- # [09:15] <gcp> tedders1: it might be acceptable. I simply don't know. Even such "simple" licenses can backfire.
- # [09:16] <gcp> The only requirement is to keep the author there (which I'd note the MPL doesn't do). That doesn't seem problematic, but what do I know.
- # [09:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e00f291f3ff3 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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- # [09:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1c7ec654ec4 - YFdyh000 - Bug 844637 - Wrong image in console.css. r=mossop
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- # [10:50] <mattwoodrow> Tomcat|sheriffduty: are you sure those windows failures are infra?
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- # [10:51] <mattwoodrow> It looks like a unified source issue
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- # [10:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mattwoodrow: yeah seems more like real bustages
- # [10:56] <mattwoodrow> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I see what it is, dunno why it didn’t show up on try.
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- # [10:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mattwoodrow: can you push a fix ?
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- # [10:57] <mattwoodrow> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yep!
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- # [11:13] <Ms2ger> No idea
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- # [11:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tn: ping
- # [11:34] <tn> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i see it, give me a sec to ponder a quick fix or back out
- # [11:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
- # [11:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah sure np :)
- # [11:34] <tn> thanks
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- # [11:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tn: ok cool thx
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- # [12:04] <gfritzsche> ah, hello there asm.js: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=988119#c6
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- # [12:08] <till> gfritzsche: oh, that's a nice result indeed. Wonder what's up with that latest comment about Chrome, though
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- # [12:10] <gfritzsche> ... rather likely when just going from my usual session length unless nightly nags me
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- # [13:34] <TheOne> getting the mac dependencies for a firefox build with bootstrap.py fails :(
- # [13:35] <TheOne> looks like the url for the terminal-notifier changed
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- # [13:35] <TheOne> Download failed: https://github.com/alloy/terminal-notifier/archive/v1.5.1.tar.gz
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- # [13:36] <till> TheOne: can you file a bug in the build system component?
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- # [13:37] <TheOne> till: Core :: Build Config ?
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- # [13:38] <till> TheOne: yes, that one
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- # [13:40] <TheOne> till: thx
- # [13:40] <till> TheOne: thank you!
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- # [14:11] <Alessar> Hello. Anybody can help with my issue in makefile?
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- # [14:17] <Alessar> I use windows. I want to run bat file with comand robocopy in one makefile. But I see error: that robocopy is not recognized command.
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- # [15:56] <till> jesup: I use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/page-title because not having page titles really annoys me in general
- # [15:56] <froydnj> the shorter tabs' inability to display complete bug numbers is also annoying
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- # [15:56] <Unfocused> yea :\ iirc, there's a bug to add the option to always show the page title
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- # [15:57] <jesup> NeilAway: IIRC there are a bunch of thorny issues there, including the command queue for all the async commands, etc. jib has lived this issue with smaug and (somewhat) bz to get us to something that works. If you have a better solution, great!
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- # [16:03] <@bz> hrm
- # [16:04] <@bz> is the list governance@lists or mozilla-governance@lists?
- # [16:04] <@bz> Or both?
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- # [16:05] <Ms2ger> bz, for my sanity, /dev/null :)
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- # [16:05] <@bz> ms2ger: not a helpful answer to my question
- # [16:05] * @bz is prioritizing other things above his sanity right now
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- # [16:06] <Ms2ger> Sorry, helpful wasn't one of my goals
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- # [16:06] <jcranmer> mozilla.governance
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- # [16:06] <jcranmer> I don't know the non-newsgroup name
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- # [16:07] <@bz> yes, I know
- # [16:07] <@bz> I can post to the newsgroup fine
- # [16:07] <@bz> but then I can't cc the person I'm replying to. ;)
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- # [16:11] <till> bz: the list is governance@lists.mozilla.org. How have you been responding to both list and person up until now?
- # [16:11] <@smaug> NeilAway: I can't recall the setup right now. There at least used to be threads involved
- # [16:11] <@bz> till: yes
- # [16:11] <@bz> till: note that some of the posts say governance@lists.mozilla.org. and some say mozilla-governance@lists
- # [16:11] <till> ah
- # [16:11] <till> bz: that's confusing, yes
- # [16:12] <@bz> Mostly I just want to avoid duplicating replies
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- # [16:13] <jcranmer> bz: you can simultaneously send email and newsgroup posts in tb
- # [16:13] <@bz> jcranmer: Hasn't worked when I've tried it....
- # [16:13] <@bz> jcranmer: But that was a while ago; maybe I should try again
- # [16:14] <jcranmer> you may need to tweak identity settings
- # [16:14] <jcranmer> I do it with some regularity
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- # [16:15] <tbsaunde> relatedly bz++
- # [16:16] <till> yes, indeed bz++
- # [16:16] <Ms2ger> Unrelatedly bz++
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- # [16:17] <vingtetun> smaug: not sure what you want me to do for bug 950300 ?
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- # [16:18] <@smaug> vingtetun: I just don't understand the code
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- # [16:19] <@smaug> vingtetun: you added some code and explicitly don't run it if the top level window doesn't have touch event listeners
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- # [16:19] <vingtetun> smaug: IIRC this code path was to avoid to have the 300ms delay if there is no listener, and send back instantly a notification to the APZC gesture detector that it does not have to wait to start panning
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- # [16:20] <@smaug> vingtetun: so the code doesn't deal with iframes
- # [16:20] <vingtetun> i don't think so
- # [16:20] <vingtetun> the previous version of the code was: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/1acc5e2112f2/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp
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- # [16:21] <vingtetun> which is the one i based my patch on. i didn't thought at all about iframes tbh
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- # [16:35] <NeilAway> jesup: well, "works" in that it hides a cast from nsISupportsWeakReference to nsPeerConnectionObserver
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- # [16:43] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: has helpful ever been one of your goals?
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- # [16:44] <NeilAway> smaug: threads and weak references and js implementations? I doubt that, but if you say so...
- # [16:44] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, occasionally
- # [16:44] <@smaug> NeilAway: somewhere in the background there were threads involved
- # [16:45] <@smaug> some edges went through non-main-thread
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- # [16:48] <mjrosenb> ok, what do I need to do to land an SS bug that has approval?
- # [16:48] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, sec-approval?
- # [16:48] <mjrosenb> do I just need to land it on m-c, and aurora at the same time?
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- # [16:48] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: yes.
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- # [16:49] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, land, and don't tell people you're about to land an ss bug
- # [16:49] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: c.c
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- # [16:51] <jesup> mjrosenb: invoke dynamic landing backoff ;-)
- # [16:52] <mjrosenb> jesup: uhhh, I'm not entirely sure how to parse that.
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- # [16:56] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: I think I only had one bug open and ready to land, but I don't see any activity in the bug.
- # [16:56] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: ah, the one I pushed was dtc's
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- # [17:02] <@ted> TheOne: mac package managers are terrible
- # [17:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97f2e9782e1c - Mike Connor - Bug 958883 - Use HTTPS for Yahoo searches, part 1, r=gavin
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- # [17:13] <padenot> that's likely
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- # [17:26] <gerv> Yoric: You're welcome :-)
- # [17:26] <Yoric> msg gerv And thanks for your blog post. I was working on one, too, but I haven't found anything interesting to add to yours yet.
- # [17:26] <Yoric> Arf.
- # [17:26] <Yoric> Missing /.
- # [17:26] <gerv> You need a "/" :-)
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- # [17:26] <Yoric> (which should happen tomorrow)
- # [17:26] <froydnj> Yoric: next time, don't buy the discount keyboard with missing keys ;)
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- # [18:14] <Ms2ger> paul, do you run firefoxnightly.tumblr.com?
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- # [18:15] <paul> Ms2ger: I do
- # [18:15] <paul> What did I get wrong this time :)
- # [18:16] <Ms2ger> paul, I'm being told the -- in css variables turned into dashes
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- # [18:16] <paul> erf
- # [18:16] <paul> you're right
- # [18:17] <paul> Ms2ger: fixed.
- # [18:17] <paul> http://firefoxnightly.tumblr.com/post/81982923011/css-variable-prefix-is-now-was-var-see
- # [18:17] <paul> tumblr is being too smart.
- # [18:17] <Ms2ger> Ta
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- # [18:26] <gfritzsche> hm, what do i need to do to use xml entities like • in extensions.xml? do i need to add a character entity set?
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- # [18:26] <stefanh> Hmm, Mozilla-Inbound is closed
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- # [18:28] <Mossop> gfritzsche: • isn't an XML entity, it's a HTML entity
- # [18:28] <Mossop> gfritzsche: You can use character codes instead
- # [18:28] <gfritzsche> Mossop: ah, thank you
- # [18:28] <Ms2ger> gfritzsche, use the actual character? This is 2014, we support utf-8
- # [18:28] <Mossop> That too
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- # [18:30] <gfritzsche> oh, we do
- # [18:30] <gfritzsche> nice, that's much better
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- # [18:33] <@bz> jez: in JS, you can't
- # [18:33] <jez> bz: DOM Inspector manages it, so it must somehow be possible
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- # [18:34] <Optimizer> do I need to do anything special to upgrade to the newest mozmake ?
- # [18:34] <Optimizer> or just hg pull
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- # [18:36] <@bz> jez: DOM Inspector is implemented in C++
- # [18:36] <jez> eh? it's a downloadable .xpi
- # [18:36] <@bz> jez: it's directly walking the C++ style system data structures
- # [18:36] <@bz> jez: ok, back up
- # [18:36] <botond|wfh> glob: hi
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- # [18:36] <@bz> jez: are you talking about the CSS rules view
- # [18:36] <@bz> jez: ?
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- # [18:36] <@bz> jez: or something else?
- # [18:37] <@bz> jez: a large chunk of DOM inspector is actually compiled into Firefox and ships with it, fwiw. devtools use that code too
- # [18:37] <jez> yes, see rules view
- # [18:37] <jez> *the rules view
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- # [18:37] <glob> botond|wfh, hello
- # [18:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/552787e99ae6 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 984813 - Remove deprecated promise.js usage in Firefox for Metro. r=mbrubeck
- # [18:37] <@bz> jez: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/inspector/inIDOMUtils.idl#26
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- # [18:38] <@bz> jez: it calls that
- # [18:38] <@bz> jez: which is implemented in C++
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- # [18:38] <botond|wfh> glob: i was wondering if you could add #gaia to the list of irc channels logged at logs.glob.uno?
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- # [18:42] <glob> botond|wfh, i can, but i'd like approval from a channel op first
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- # [18:47] <jez> bz: yeah i guess. what i need to do is get some rules from tabbrowser.css and apply them in navigator.css
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- # [18:47] <jez> trouble is, im not sure i can access tabbrowser.css thru JS
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- # [18:56] <@bz> "I am hacking the Spidermonkey source code and have discovered that ... (crazy code described)"
- # [18:57] <@bz> Response: "You're right, this was crazy. We fixed it last year."
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- # [19:14] <RyanVM> Optimizer: mozmake comes with mozillabuild, not in mozilla-central
- # [19:15] <Optimizer> yeah, saw the mail
- # [19:15] <Optimizer> this time with open eyes
- # [19:15] <Optimizer> ur*
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- # [19:16] <RyanVM> Optimizer: i've thought about throwing a bundle on my people page for those who want it
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- # [19:16] <Optimizer> that is too big of a bungle
- # [19:16] <Optimizer> to download
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- # [19:16] <Optimizer> when I can download just mozmake
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- # [19:18] <RyanVM> Optimizer: it's built during the actual mozillabuild packaging, but I can upload the exe if you want
- # [19:18] <Optimizer> i just finished downloading the 89 mb exe :)
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- # [19:20] <RyanVM> well, in case anybody else finds it useful - http://people.mozilla.org/~rvandermeulen/mozmake-4.0.43.7z
- # [19:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> !seen rjesup
- # [19:20] <firebot> I've never seen a 'rjesup', sorry.
- # [19:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: ah
- # [19:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> branfail
- # [19:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> brain
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- # [19:21] <jesup> high
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- # [19:21] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: what's the status of the assertion fix?
- # [19:21] <jesup> edmorley|sheriffduty: still there? you hada questions?
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- # [19:21] <jesup> patch is up to roc, padenot and I are trying to test it locally
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- # [19:21] <jesup> bug 991504
- # [19:21] <edmorley|sheriffduty> I'm still here, I meant more from a "I should probably go home now, I'm clearly not with it!" :-)
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- # [19:22] <jesup> up == up for review
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- # [19:24] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: the trees are currently closed for confirmation that the tooltool deployment backout has fixed things, but should be reopen soon. They've been closed for over two hours now (I have been busy doing other things, my fault for not checking back sooner) on this, so would be good to either land the fix if confident now, or else back and & reland as a whole
- # [19:24] <edmorley|sheriffduty> later
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- # [19:28] <jesup> edmorley|sheriffduty: there were two oranges on the two following pushes. the 10 retriggers by padenot and I are all green, and all runs after those two that have finished Win8Debug Crashtest are all green. Double-checking other windows versions
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- # [19:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: that still seems unlikely to be coincidence and also too frequent to remain in the tree
- # [19:30] <jesup> padenot has a temporary patch that will remove the bustage we should be able to land in a sec
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- # [19:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: ok, thank you
- # [19:31] <Optimizer> please show me my windows opts https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a4a2c072e687
- # [19:31] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: there's also a crash in the opt b2g emulator crastest
- # [19:31] <mdas> is try closed too? I've been waiting for 2 minutes for my push to try to be successful, and if I cancel, I get: "remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:21500'"
- # [19:31] <Optimizer> ah finally they became visible ...
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- # [19:31] <mdas> but https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try says the tree is open
- # [19:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mdas: it's not closed (the hg hook would output a closure message), that sounds like errors someone else was reporting the other day, I'll see if I can find the bug
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- # [19:33] <jesup> edmorley|sheriffduty: where? You mean the C1 timeouts?
- # [19:33] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: yeah
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- # [19:33] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: well, timeouts + crash
- # [19:33] <jesup> I'll look, but I think the crashes are a result of the timeout mechanism.
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- # [19:36] <jesup> I'm not sure that has anything to do with this, though it may be related to needing bug 992436, perhaps
- # [19:36] <jez> bz: any ideas?
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- # [19:37] <@bz> jez: on what?
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- # [19:37] <jez> about how I can get programattic access to the tabbrowser.css stylesheet, which I think is pulled in through a binding?
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- # [19:39] <jesup> edmorley|sheriffduty: the tests are generic media element tests, and the "crashes" are in cycle collection, neither of which this landing should have impacted except maybe a resample of the media element. Note that the lack of wakelock thing can make small changes have an inordinate effect on the tests
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- # [19:40] <mdas> edmorley|sheriffduty: do you konw if there's a way to get around it so I can submit to try?
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- # [19:41] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: agreed, but sadly similar to the other day where I had to back out some other poor soul for their 'correct' patch causing failures in some other flaky code, if the tree is now measurably more orange, the issue needs fixing there and then, or the patch backing out either way. (we may already be agreeing here, if so, sorry to over-elaborate :-))
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- # [19:41] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mdas: I don't know, sorry. Maybe ask in #releng or #it ?
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- # [19:42] <mdas> edmorley|sheriffduty: sure thanks
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- # [19:44] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mconnor: hi :-) whilst the trees are closed for infra, would you mind landing a followup to fix https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37383245&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [19:44] <jesup> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm verifying with padenot about the C1 to see if we could have impacted it in any way
- # [19:44] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jesup: great :-)
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- # [19:44] <jesup> I ahve the crash fix ready to land
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- # [19:44] <mconnor> edmorley|sheriffduty: oops, yes
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- # [19:46] <jesup> edmorley|sheriffduty: I've retriggered a bunch of times to try to verify the C1
- # [19:46] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ttaubert++
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- # [19:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cb71c012f85 - Randell Jesup - Bug 991504 - Temporary assertion removal to fix bustage in AudioSegment r=jesup
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- # [19:53] <@bz> what's the vidyo room for the project meeting?
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- # [19:55] <philor> bsmedberg: looks like while https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Supported_build_configurations wasn't watching, Android x86 became tier 1
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- # [19:58] <philor> bsmedberg: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?jobname=Android%204.2%20x86 - it's a visible build in automation, bustage must be immediately backed out, so it's tier 1, via the cute way that anything releng decides to build which doesn't get hidden for some reason is tier 1
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- # [19:58] <@bz> khuey: ok
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- # [20:00] <philor> and hasn't anybody backed out mconnor yet?
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- # [20:00] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: he;s fixing it whilst the trees are closed for the tooltool backout greening up
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- # [20:00] <edmorley|sheriffduty> (was only a partial backout so I'm a little suspicious)
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- # [20:02] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mconnor: do you have an eta? :-)
- # [20:02] <mconnor> edmorley|sheriffduty: 5 minutes
- # [20:03] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mconnor: :-)
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- # [20:04] <@bz> no audio yet?
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- # [20:07] <jez> linux
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- # [20:08] <padenot`win> it's the default, then
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- # [20:10] <mconnor> edmorley|sheriffduty: remind me what the closed tree syntax is?
- # [20:10] <jez> even for seamonkey?
- # [20:10] <jez> is there a way to explicitly specify anyway?
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- # [20:11] <@bz> jez: did you try that API?
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- # [20:11] <@bz> jez: It will let you get to that sheet and then shoot yourself in the foot....
- # [20:11] <padenot`win> mconnor: CLOSED TREE, all caps
- # [20:12] <@bz> jez: so just be careful with it!
- # [20:12] <mconnor> padenot`win: thanks!
- # [20:12] <jez> bz: gawd, so there's no other way to get to those few pesky css rules/
- # [20:12] <jez> ?
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- # [20:13] <@bz> jez: There is not
- # [20:13] <@bz> jez: bindings are supposed to provide encapsulation!
- # [20:13] <@bz> jez: so they do.
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- # [20:14] <jez> not being able to easily access it from an extension sucks
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- # [20:14] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mconnor: sorry irccloud didn't alert, it's CLOSED TREE
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- # [20:15] <@ted> sfink: the single-core test machine thing?
- # [20:15] <sfink> yeah
- # [20:15] <@ted> i tried to post it last week but my mail server was blacklisted on spamcop
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- # [20:16] <mconnor> edmorley|sheriffduty: got hit by bug # hook, so just landed
- # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3edaa7d7bff4 - Mike Connor - bug 991359, build bustage fix, a=CLOSED TREE
- # [20:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mconnor: thank you :-)
- # [20:17] <sfink> it just means that the intermittent oranges we stress over are very possibly different from the intermittent-orange-like bugs that real users see
- # [20:17] <mconnor> edmorley|sheriffduty: thank you for pinging instead of backing me out
- # [20:17] <@ted> sfink: well, this only changed in the recent past when we moved linux testing to EC2
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- # [20:17] <@ted> also this is linux-only right now
- # [20:17] <sfink> ah, ok
- # [20:17] <sfink> that does de-fang it quite a bit
- # [20:17] <jez> How can I specify a Linux build to be 32 bit?
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- # [20:18] <@ted> sfink: but AIUI the plan is to move our windows testing into EC2 as well
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- # [20:18] <froydnj> jez: --target=i686-pc-linux-gnu, but note that a lot of 64-bit linux distributions don't really support compiling 32-bit applications like Mozilla
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- # [20:19] <froydnj> jez: you may also have to set CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/etc. appropriately
- # [20:19] <@ted> you can get it to work on ubuntu, you just have to install a bunch of extra packages
- # [20:19] <sfink> same on fedora
- # [20:19] <froydnj> oh? it was impossible on debian, it's nice to know it works on ubuntu
- # [20:20] <@ted> froydnj: i haven't tried in a while, but i had it working at one poitn
- # [20:20] <froydnj> ted: neat
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- # [20:22] <padenot`win> cross-compilation does not really work on ubuntu theree days
- # [20:22] <padenot`win> at least not on 13.10
- # [20:22] <padenot`win> but https://github.com/padenot/fx-32-on-64.sh works for sure
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- # [20:23] <froydnj> padenot++
- # [20:23] <padenot`win> (it uses a chroot env)
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- # [20:25] <@ted> padenot`win: neat
- # [20:25] <@ted> wonder when it broke, i used to be able to build
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- # [20:26] <padenot`win> last time I tried, I could not get a 32bit X lib
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- # [20:29] <jez> is there a list of those target architectures?
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- # [20:31] <jez> things like i686-pc-linux
- # [20:31] <jez> is there a list of them?
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- # [20:36] <@ted> jez: somewhere in config.guess/config.sub?
- # [20:36] <@ted> dunno if there's a list
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- # [20:41] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
- # [20:41] <@bsmedberg> jesup: pong
- # [20:42] <jesup> bug 970732 -
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- # [20:44] <jesup> bsmedberg: bug 970732 - ted inidicated we should look at using Telemetry for his. What's your recommendation about how to handle this? Especially given the privacy issues and something not hard to get up server side
- # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> jesup: we have no framework right now for personally-identifiable data
- # [20:46] <jesup> bsmedberg: there's sensitive data in crashreports (URL for example)
- # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> non-identifiable data can probably live in telemetry
- # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> jesup: yes, but that requires a bunch of opt-in UI
- # [20:47] <@bsmedberg> it's not a framework you could use for this
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- # [20:47] <jesup> right, we'd need opt-in after a call failed to connect in our UI
- # [20:47] <jesup> I'm presuming opt-in has been granted by the user
- # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> Do you have a UI framework in mind?
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- # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> The bug looks like it's talking about automatic data collection, and collecting "count the number of times the user had a 0-byte call" isn't identifiable
- # [20:49] <@bsmedberg> I'd expect that websites themselves would collect the more details stats
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- # [20:52] <jesup> bsmedberg: well, to start with for Loop where we can provide UI. If we can do it for other cases with UI, great. If we can anonymize, how much easier does this get?
- # [20:52] <@bsmedberg> that sorta depends on the goals of the measurement
- # [20:53] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I think we should have a real meeting about this
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- # [21:32] <josh> BenWa: What is Tiling (mentioned in your blog post)?
- # [21:33] <BenWa> josh: http://benoitgirard.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/tiling-improvements-in-fennec/
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- # [21:33] <BenWa> This is the old outdated blog post introducing it
- # [21:34] <@ehsan> tedders1: I r-ed your patch on bug 981938, please let me know if I'm not making sense there!
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- # [21:34] <BenWa> josh: Actually the information is still relevant
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- # [21:36] <josh> BenWa: thanks
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- # [21:36] <josh> BenWa: I see what must be a bug with tiling on android all the time, particlarly on CNN. I can see it really slowly shift the whole page down about 10 pixels one painful tile at a time.
- # [21:36] <mwu> jmaher: ping
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- # [21:38] <BenWa> josh: Umm I don’t see what. Our tiles are 256 pixels so usally tiling issues usually impact a fairly largen rendering area. We should get a bug on file for it
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- # [21:38] <josh> yeah, this is ~256 pixel sections at a time
- # [21:38] <mwu> jmaher: tp5 measures page load times, right?
- # [21:38] <BenWa> josh: Are you testing on Nightly?
- # [21:38] <jmaher> mwu: yes
- # [21:38] <mwu> jmaher: so lower numbers are better, right?
- # [21:38] <jmaher> mwu: it waiting unti lwe get onload and mozafterpaint
- # [21:39] <BenWa> josh: We did change the code to support ffos so we should be tracking any regressions from it
- # [21:39] <jmaher> mwu: yes
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- # [21:39] <josh> it loads CNN, everything looks fine, then it decides to move everything down about 10 pixels and it takes about 10 seconds, one tile at a time
- # [21:39] <mwu> jmaher: I see drops on all the pages you mention as regressing
- # [21:39] <jmaher> mwu: oh, I might have pointed out the wrong pages
- # [21:39] <jmaher> heh
- # [21:39] <josh> this is on android 4.2.2, nexus 5
- # [21:39] <jmaher> let me look at that again
- # [21:39] <josh> BenWa: I will file a bug
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- # [21:40] <BenWa> I don’t see the bug but it looks like our rendering perf regressed on CNN :(
- # [21:40] <jmaher> mwu: hmm, I had mixed up improvement/regression, let me close that bug out
- # [21:40] <mwu> :)
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- # [21:41] <josh> BenWa: seems like there is already a bug on file, which you commented in. 810689
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- # [21:43] <evilpie> ehsan: does anything happen when people comment in bug 499593?
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- # [21:44] <@ehsan> evilpie: first time I'm seeing that bug I believe
- # [21:44] <@ehsan> :(
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- # [21:44] <evilpie> wow :0
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- # [21:45] <evilpie> should we add these words http://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/22e8qf/is_there_a_reason_the_firefox_spell_check_is_so/cgmdf6l
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- # [21:45] <froydnj> ehsan: some maintainer you are!
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- # [21:45] <@ehsan> froydnj: maintainer of what?
- # [21:46] <@ehsan> evilpie: BenWa also emailed me about that reddit article
- # [21:46] <froydnj> ehsan: I thought you were the (unofficial?) spellchecker maintainer
- # [21:46] <froydnj> ehsan: or is that part of the tree you randomly r+ patches to? :)
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- # [21:46] <evilpie> oh neat
- # [21:46] <@ehsan> froydnj: the component is technically unowned, but I'm probably the closest thing to a maintainer these days :(
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- # [21:47] <@ehsan> evilpie: let me comment on the bug
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- # [21:49] <evilpie> ehsan: do we merge stuff from upstream or chrome somtimes?
- # [21:49] <@ehsan> evilpie: never
- # [21:50] <evilpie> nice
- # [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b87a6adad14 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e35851f07b67 (bug 987508) for non-unified bustage.
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- # [21:51] <@ehsan> evilpie: note that I'm just telling you what the status quo is, not defending it :)
- # [21:51] <evilpie> sure
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- # [21:57] <@ehsan> BenWa: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499593
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- # [22:04] <philor> peterv: e10s is still hidden, but https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&onlyunstarred=1&rev=f1b0d3d13755 looks related
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- # [22:05] <cpeterson> philor: did billm's hidden e10s tests actually catch a regression on mozilla-inbound? :)
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- # [22:06] <philor> probably so
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- # [22:07] <philor> oh, busted in non-e10s, and b2g, too
- # [22:07] <Ms2ger> philor, sounds like you want f1b0d3d13755 out :)
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- # [22:08] <philor> Ms2ger: or maybe both, no idea what the Gu is
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- # [22:09] <Ms2ger> philor, hmm, I didn't think Gu used SpecialPowers?
- # [22:10] <peterv> philor/Ms2ger: actually, I shouldn't have checked in that test change on its own, I can back that out to fix the mochitest-2 issue
- # [22:10] <jesup> I backed out again padenot's (and my) changes again due to b2g-opt C1 25ish% failure rate
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- # [22:10] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: CLOSED TREE over the Gu thing, since it's not running
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- # [22:11] <philor> among other things, since now it's starting to look like we'll be crashing all over too
- # [22:12] <peterv> philor: I'll back it out
- # [22:12] <philor> Windows anything-that-opens-a-dialog, I guess
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- # [22:45] <RyanVM> gavin: progress :) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Cedar&jobname=mochitest.*chrome&rev=2b33b2e84bab
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- # [22:48] <tedders1> ehsan: Hi Ehsan. How're things in Toronto?
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- # [22:49] <@ehsan> tedders1: mostly ok! there's a promise of some rain/flood this evening!
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- # [22:49] <tedders1> ehsan: Oh. Well, at least it's not snow, which is nice.
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- # [22:49] <@ehsan> heh, true!
- # [22:50] <tedders1> ehsan: So, these new transactional semantics in DataStore. Are they going to be available in 1.4?
- # [22:50] <@ehsan> no
- # [22:50] <tedders1> ehsan: Okay, well, then we a problem.
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- # [22:50] <@ehsan> so what's the issue you're trying to solve?
- # [22:50] <@ehsan> is is the same issue?
- # [22:50] <RyanVM> gavin: so anyway, jmaher and I are hoping to get Cedar as-is enabled this week so we can use Friday's meeting as a longer-term planning session
- # [22:50] <tedders1> ehsan: The review you r-'d was for a blocker for 1.4.
- # [22:51] <tedders1> ehsan: The download store is implemented using a DataStore.
- # [22:51] <@ehsan> ok
- # [22:51] <tedders1> ehsan: Right now, the first entry in the download store is a "meta-entry" that contains a list of all the other entries.
- # [22:52] <tedders1> ehsan: (It's a list of all the keys.)
- # [22:52] <@ehsan> :(
- # [22:52] <@ehsan> but ok!
- # [22:53] <@gavin> RyanVM: what does that mean in practice?
- # [22:53] <@gavin> ("Cedar as-is enabled this week")
- # [22:53] <tedders1> ehsan: I didn't write the download store code, but I'm guessing they did that because there is no DataStore.getAllKeys() method.
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> gavin: some short-term workarounds (like Matt's 2s delay patch and some disabled tests)
- # [22:53] <@ehsan> tedders1: sure
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> and GC between each test
- # [22:53] <@gavin> RyanVM: but the current cedar config is not chunk-by-dir, right?
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> gavin: correct, that's a longer term project
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> phas2
- # [22:53] <tedders1> ehsan: The problem is, because of a lack of transactional semantics, the data in the meta-entry becomes incorrect due to race conditions.
- # [22:53] <@gavin> why?
- # [22:54] <@gavin> can we make it a near term project if I fix a lot of things?
- # [22:54] <RyanVM> gavin: not if we aren't meeting until friday :P
- # [22:54] <@gavin> meeting schmeeting, we can start today
- # [22:54] <RyanVM> heh
- # [22:54] <RyanVM> ok
- # [22:54] <@ehsan> tedders1: so would uplifting bug 963038 to 1.4 be a good solution then?
- # [22:54] <tedders1> ehsan: When someone adds a new record to the download store, it reads the list of keys out of the meta-entry, appends to the list, and then writes the list back to the meta-entry.
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- # [22:54] <RyanVM> gavin: we'll turn chunk-by-dir on and see how it goes
- # [22:54] <RyanVM> will let you know
- # [22:55] <@gavin> sounds good
- # [22:55] <RyanVM> but progress :)
- # [22:55] <@ehsan> tedders1: yeah that will obviously race :/
- # [22:55] <tedders1> ehsan: Yeah.
- # [22:55] <tedders1> ehsan: So, yes, uplifting bug 963038 to 1.4 would work.
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- # [22:55] <@ehsan> tedders1: ok, I'll ni? baku on the bug
- # [22:55] <tedders1> ehsan: The alternative is to add a getAllKeys() method to DataStore, which is what my patch does.
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- # [22:56] <@ehsan> tedders1: so how would getAllKeys() help?
- # [22:56] <tedders1> ehsan: (And which I've been working on for about a month. Not that it matters.)
- # [22:56] <@ehsan> tedders1: I mean, I'm open to discussing adding that if that serves other use cases
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- # [22:57] <@ehsan> tedders1: it's just not obvious from that bug what the use case is
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- # [22:57] <tedders1> ehsan: The download store's meta-entry is a list of all the other keys. If we can obtain the keys using DataStore.getAllKeys(), we don't need to have the meta-entry at all, so we don't have to worry about it getting corrupted due to races.
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- # [22:58] <@ehsan> tedders1: and why do we need a list of all of the keys?
- # [22:58] <tedders1> ehsan: This code is used from the Downloads screen in the Settings app, for displaying a list of downloads.
- # [22:58] <@ehsan> I mean
- # [22:58] <@ehsan> couldn't the settings app just listen to updates to the data store
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- # [22:59] <@ehsan> and build its own DB containing the list of keys?
- # [22:59] <tedders1> ehsan: We could alternatively use a cursor, but that turned out to be very slow, and so I was told to not do that.
- # [22:59] <@ehsan> I see
- # [23:00] <@ehsan> tedders1: do you know more about the perf problems there?
- # [23:00] <bent> ehsan, you have to deserialize the key and value for cursors
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- # [23:00] <@ehsan> ok
- # [23:01] <bent> ehsan, unless you use a key cursor
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- # [23:01] <@ehsan> is that for building a DB which uses sync() to store newly added keys?
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- # [23:01] <@ehsan> hmm
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- # [23:02] <@ehsan> so there is _a_ perf problem but we don't know the details right?
- # [23:02] <tedders1> ehsan: Hmmm. I guess the Settings app could maintain a list in its own database.
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- # [23:03] <@ehsan> tedders1: that's really the idea behind the DataStore API (avoiding creating these kinds of meta entries in the DS itself)
- # [23:03] <tedders1> ehsan: The download store is used by both the System app and the Settings app, but I don't think the System app ever needs to get a list of all downloads...
- # [23:03] <tedders1> ehsan: I could be completely wrong about that, though. I'd have to look into it.
- # [23:03] <@ehsan> understood
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- # [23:03] <@ehsan> tedders1: the other thing to talk about is which parts of this we want to solve for 1.4 of course
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- # [23:04] <@ehsan> tedders1: what was the plan with your getAllKeys() patch? was it to land that and then rewrite the downloads code on top of it?
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- # [23:04] <@ehsan> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963038
- # [23:04] <@ehsan> bent: ^
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- # [23:06] <tedders1> ehsan: What bent was talking about was getting a list of downloads by using a key cursor on the underlying DataStore that implements the download store. Unfortunately, we don't have key cursors yet.
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- # [23:06] <@ehsan> tedders1: oh ok, that wasn't what I was suggesting though
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- # [23:07] <tedders1> ehsan: Yeah. I'm just explaining what bent was talking about. It was one of the ideas bent and I were kicking around.
- # [23:07] <@ehsan> ok
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- # [23:08] <@ehsan> yeah I agree that reading the entire DS every time we want to get a list of keys is unreasonable
- # [23:08] <tedders1> ehsan: Yeah, I was going to land the getAllKeys() patch today (bent was about to approve it), and I also have patches for altering the download store ready to go (currently being reviewed by athurcc -- he just wants me to make some minor changes).
- # [23:08] <@ehsan> bent: tedders1: one issue with getAllKeys() though is whether we will OOM if we have a lot of entries, right?
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- # [23:09] <@ehsan> tedders1: I'm sorry I entered the discussion this late :(
- # [23:09] <tedders1> ehsan: Yeah. I had no idea you were working on an alternate solution to this problem, and I sit right next to you. I flew out to SF to work on this with Ben.
- # [23:10] <@ehsan> tedders1: bent: should we quickly get on vidyo now?
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- # [23:11] <bent> ehsan, er, ok, your room?
- # [23:11] * bent will try to find a camera
- # [23:12] <@ehsan> sure
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- # [23:12] <tedders1> bent: I have a camera on my laptop, if you want to crowd around my laptop.
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- # [23:13] <@ehsan> bent: tedders1: alright, I'm here
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- # [23:14] <@ehsan> it's ok, I'll wait!
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- # [23:15] <@ehsan> tedders1: the room is paramount
- # [23:16] <tedders1> ehsan: Okay. (He said as if he knows where that room is.)
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- # [23:34] <jduell> bent: is IPDL hub-and-spoke, i.e. does sending messages between children require going through the parent?
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- # [23:36] <froydnj> jduell: istr that bridging between children can be done
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- # [23:40] <aceman> hi, if I map.set(key, value) for a key that already exists, will the value get overwritten?
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- # [23:41] <aceman> the MDN docs on Map.prototype.set() only talk about adding new keys
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- # [23:43] <Fallen> afaik yes, try it in scratchpad?
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- # [23:45] <aceman> in my code it looks like it doesn't so I ask for sure
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