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  18. # [00:05] <jld> bent: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=993080
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  22. # [00:06] <jld> khuey,bent: Bug 884061 - Part 3q: Use NS_DECL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS in netwerk/, r=macmanus
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  26. # [00:10] <@khuey> jld: yeah, that's just changing how we declare threadsafe XPCOM objects
  27. # [00:10] <@khuey> so it goes back even further
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  72. # [00:45] <shu> how do i get hold to the browser chrome window to pass to a JS-implemented XPCOM service?
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  74. # [00:46] <@smaug> shu: which "the"
  75. # [00:46] <qDot> What's the bugzilla component for cycle collector crashes? XPCOM?
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  77. # [00:46] <@smaug> qDot: cycle collector doesn't crash
  78. # [00:47] <@smaug> but xpcom
  79. # [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3d372d57d71a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  81. # [00:47] <qDot> smaug: Ok, well I'm dying on an assert on the cycle collector
  82. # [00:47] <shu> smaug: here's the context: i'm inside the slow script dialog code in nsGlobalWindow::ShowSlowScriptDialog
  83. # [00:47] <qDot> smaug: Because gecko can tell I've been on vacation and wants to welcome me back.
  84. # [00:47] <@smaug> qDot: curious, which assert
  85. # [00:47] <shu> smaug: i have a JS-implemented XPCOM service whereby i can register a JS callback
  86. # [00:48] <@smaug> mccr8 removed some asserts from cc
  87. # [00:48] * NeilAway wonders who knows most about weak references to webidl objects
  88. # [00:48] <shu> smaug: i'd like to pass to this JS callback the chrome window of the window that has the slow script
  89. # [00:48] <bbondy> NeilAway: maybe ask.mozilla.org does :)
  90. # [00:48] <mccr8> I only removed one! and it was a gentle NS_ASSERTION
  91. # [00:49] <qDot> smaug: Gimme a few to rebuild with oop turned on and I'll pastebin. This only happens in b2g desktop when we turn OOP on. The specialest of special snowflakes.
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  94. # [00:50] <@smaug> shu: so in nsGlobalWindow::ShowSlowScriptDialog I'd take the top level chrome docshell, getInterface nsIDOMWindow from it and pass that
  95. # [00:50] <@smaug> doesn't ofc work in e10s or in b2g
  96. # [00:50] <shu> smaug: so the IDL of the callback should take a |in nsIDOMWindow|?
  97. # [00:51] <@smaug> yeah, if you want the chrome window
  98. # [00:51] <shu> smaug: i do. thanks!
  99. # [00:51] <@smaug> I mean the top level window object
  100. # [00:51] <shu> smaug: specifically i want the thing that has 'gBrowser'
  101. # [00:51] <shu> smaug: i think that's the top level window?
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  103. # [00:52] <@smaug> yeah, gBrowser lives in the top level window
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  113. # [00:56] <qDot> smaug: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4774890
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  115. # [00:58] <@smaug> mccr8: ^
  116. # [00:58] <@smaug> hmm, so late release
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  118. # [00:59] <mccr8> I blame khuey
  119. # [01:00] <qDot> Imma go ahead and file this.
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  121. # [01:00] <qDot> Should bisect to sometime in the past 2 weeks, 'cause this was working before vacation.
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  124. # [01:00] <mccr8> qDot: bug 968031
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  126. # [01:01] <mccr8> khuey added gratuitous cycle collection to ContentParent, and we seem to be releasing one very late
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  129. # [01:01] <mccr8> the idea was that it would make them show up in CC logs, to make debugging easier, but I'm not surprised there's some weirdness around shutdown
  130. # [01:01] <djvj> peterv: m-i is green now
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  134. # [01:02] <Waldo> hmm
  135. # [01:02] <@smaug> qDot: file a bug and make it block bug 968031
  136. # [01:02] <Waldo> I guess this is just not my day for bugzilla-based interdiffing
  137. # [01:03] <Waldo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?oldid=8387429&action=interdiff&newid=8399904&headers=1 makes the second such link in a row that won't interdiff when I try it :-\
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  139. # [01:03] <Waldo> although, I guess these patches are rather bigger than the previous failing interdiff
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  143. # [01:06] <Waldo> oh, the big file changed on every line
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  154. # [01:19] <Waldo> ugh, and file moves too
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  177. # [01:32] <kgrandon> bz: ping?
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  179. # [01:33] <kgrandon> unping, someone asked me to ping the wrong person :)
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  184. # [01:35] <@gavin> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981900#c9
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  192. # [01:40] <NeilAway> you would have thought the name of the interface would be a dead giveaway: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=nsIToolkitProfileService&filter=createInstance
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  194. # [01:40] <@khuey> we really should make XPCOM enforce the serviceness thing
  195. # [01:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30c9030026f1 - Ben Turner - Bug 993080 - 'MOZ_CRASH(nsStandardURL not thread-safe) in RemoteOpenFileChild::~RemoteOpenFileChild'. r=khuey.
  196. # [01:40] <NeilAway> khuey: well, that one's a singleton factory, so it happens to work anyway
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  200. # [01:43] <@smaug> gavin: ?
  201. # [01:43] <@smaug> oh
  202. # [01:43] <@smaug> wait
  203. # [01:43] <@smaug> not in my review queue
  204. # [01:44] <@smaug> only in feedback queue
  205. # [01:44] <@gavin> you treat those separately somehow?
  206. # [01:44] <@gavin> the feedback request is important because smacleod wants some feedback on the approach
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  209. # [01:45] <@smaug> gavin: I definitely treat feedback and needinfo separately
  210. # [01:45] <@smaug> reviews get higher priority
  211. # [01:46] <@gavin> that's odd
  212. # [01:46] <@smaug> how so?
  213. # [01:46] <@khuey> I try to do ni then reviews then feedback
  214. # [01:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04a44359d024 - Terrence Cole - Bug 992535 - Add a missing barrier in ArrayPopShift; r=sfink
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  216. # [01:46] <@gavin> I don't think it generally holds that feedback requests are any less time-sensitive than review requests
  217. # [01:47] <@gavin> maybe it does for you
  218. # [01:47] <@gavin> in any case, that one is important, so can you treat it like a reveiw request? :)
  219. # [01:47] * @smaug adds it to the review queue :)
  220. # [01:48] <smacleod> smaug: thanks :D
  221. # [01:49] <@smaug> in other words, I have usually enough trouble to do fast enough reviews, and that leads to slow f? and ni? processing
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  223. # [01:49] <@gavin> I certainly do some prioritization of requests, but it's never based on the type of flag
  224. # [01:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2adda06f871 - Terrence Cole - Bug 984101 - Expand SpiderMonkey's use of poisoning for diagnostics; r=jonco
  225. # [01:50] <smacleod> smaug: your initial feedback was very quick, so I didn't assume you don't prioritize f?
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  229. # [01:50] <@smaug> smacleod: ah yes, that is is flaw in my process
  230. # [01:50] <@dbaron> I'm not really even sure what feedback? means. We don't have any shared understanding of what + or - means, and I think most of the uses I see may as well be needinfo?.
  231. # [01:51] <@smaug> hard to predict feedback? processing time
  232. # [01:51] <@smaug> dbaron: exactly
  233. # [01:51] <@gavin> does it need to have a crisper definition? It means "say something about this patch", usually with a bit more context in the form of a comment
  234. # [01:51] <@dbaron> One of the common uses I see is people who are fishing around for a faster reviewer
  235. # [01:51] <@khuey> I just cancel feedback requests
  236. # [01:51] <@khuey> when I comment
  237. # [01:51] <@khuey> rather than give + or -
  238. # [01:52] <@khuey> unless the patch is totally the wrong direction
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  240. # [01:52] <smacleod> smaug: not saying it's a flaw in your process, just hard for me to judge time expectations based on one speedy feedback response
  241. # [01:52] <@gavin> why don't you grant f+?
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  243. # [01:52] <@gavin> is it because you're a negative person?
  244. # [01:52] <@dbaron> gavin, what does f+ mean?
  245. # [01:52] <dholbert> gavin, that sounds like negative feedback
  246. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bb8e0a572620 - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Disable browser_tabview_bug654295.js in a vain attempt to appease the gods of mochitest-bc.
  247. # [01:52] <@gavin> it can mean several things
  248. # [01:52] <@dbaron> gavin, I wouldn't grant it because I might think somebody would treat it as equivalent to review+
  249. # [01:52] <@gavin> "this looks like the right approach"
  250. # [01:53] <@gavin> "I think this is the right change, but not willing to r+ / didn't look that closely"
  251. # [01:53] <@dbaron> gavin, because Ithink there are some groups that do
  252. # [01:53] <smacleod> gavin: that's exactly what I would have expected if the patch received an f+
  253. # [01:53] <@gavin> dbaron: I'm not aware of anyone landing anything with only f+ an that's a clear violation of the review rules
  254. # [01:53] <@dbaron> does feedback+ mean, for example, that I've actually read and understood the whole patch?
  255. # [01:54] <@gavin> no
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  257. # [01:54] <@khuey> I think it's clear that r+ means "I am ok with you checking this in"
  258. # [01:54] <@gavin> (not necessarily)
  259. # [01:54] <@dbaron> and generally when people have specific questions, I'd rather have them asked in English than asked in patch form
  260. # [01:54] <@khuey> and it's not clear what f+ means
  261. # [01:54] <@dbaron> because they're much easier to understand that way
  262. # [01:54] <@gavin> there's nothing about using the feedback flags that precludes the additional use of english :)
  263. # [01:55] <@dbaron> but then the thing I'm providing feedback on is the English and not the patch
  264. # [01:55] <@dbaron> so it feels weird to mark a patch as feedback+ when I didn't actually look at the patch
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  266. # [01:55] <@gavin> there are times when people want you to look at a patch and comment on the code without providing a whole review
  267. # [01:55] <@gavin> (maybe only one particular part of a patch, even)
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  270. # [01:56] <tbsaunde> smaug: since you were complaining about something wanting flash the other day do you know if there's a way to stop the door hanger asking if you'd like to install it?
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  272. # [01:58] <@smaug> tbsaunde: dunno. I think I was using b2g browser
  273. # [01:58] <@gavin> "positive/negative sentiment about this patch but not r+/r-" seems like a pretty simple concept to me :)
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  279. # [02:00] <rstrong> it is also extremely helpful if the requestor of feedback asks what they would like feedback on. It is usually about approach but I have had many other types of feedback asked for. As a side benefit, it is usually obvious that the entire patch doesn't need review when what feedback is wanted.
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  282. # [02:01] <rstrong> when what feedback is wanted is specified that is
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  295. # [02:04] <@roc> is there a way to start a debugger when starting Firefox with "mach run"?
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  297. # [02:05] <nalexander> roc: there's |mach debug|, but it looks like you can't change the debugger itself.
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  300. # [02:06] <@roc> hmm, there must be a way to set the debugger, surely?
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  304. # [02:08] <mrbkap> gavin: Who owns the login manager these days?
  305. # [02:09] <@gavin> mrbkap: dolske
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  308. # [02:09] <nalexander> roc: if there is, I don't see it. Hack it in to http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/mach_commands.py#749
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  311. # [02:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3113883c9047 - David Burns - Bug 811796: Add missing test files to the manifest; r=jgriffin
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  316. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/914a6ea6ff4e - David Burns - Bug 882687: Fixing test position test; r=mdas
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  321. # [02:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2933825b6ddc - Daniel Holbert - Bug 983427 part 1: Add FlexboxAxisTracker flag to indicate whether we've detected bottom-to-top flow & are internally reversing axes. r=mats
  322. # [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83239ec80721 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 983427 part 3: If axes are reversed, swap "flex-start" and "flex-end" alignment (& treat "stretch" as a variety of "flex-start"). r=mats
  323. # [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e973011769ef - Daniel Holbert - Bug 983427 part 2: If axes are reversed, link up our lists of FlexLines & FlexItems in reverse, too. r=mats
  324. # [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fae9b3994877 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 983427 part 4c: If axes are reversed, compute flex container's baseline using the *last* flex line (which in reality is the first line). r=mats
  325. # [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23e5d4a21960 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 983427 part 4b: If axes are reversed, align baseline-aligned items with respect to to the flex-end edge (which is the "real" flex-start edge). r=mats
  326. # [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eca40ea81243 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 983427 part 4a: Expand FlexItem baseline accessor to let caller pick the edge as well as the axis. r=mats
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  332. # [02:21] <gps> browser_tabview needs to DIAF
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  334. # [02:21] <RyanVM|afk> gps: nah, just needs to run in chunks with devtools split out ;)
  335. # [02:22] <gps> oh, RyanVM|afk made my wishes come true already :)
  336. # [02:22] * RyanVM|afk looks wistfully at Cedar
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  339. # [02:22] <RyanVM|afk> and wonders if and when releng will fix the linux build bustage there too
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  341. # [02:22] <gps> wow - 20 minutes to run all the devtools bc tests!!!
  342. # [02:23] <RyanVM|afk> gps: it's a purdy sight, eh? :)
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  344. # [02:24] <RyanVM|afk> gps: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mochitest-bc-chunking-phase1
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  346. # [02:25] <RyanVM|afk> gps: though now we've actually got pdfjs and netmonitor tests re-enabled
  347. # [02:26] <gps> RyanVM|afk: so, now that we trigger gc between test runs, if we captured GC stats, we could get performancy regressions
  348. # [02:27] <gps> e.g. # of allocations over time
  349. # [02:27] <RyanVM|afk> gps: well, it sure as shit slows things down
  350. # [02:27] <RyanVM|afk> gps: in the long run, we hope to ditch it when per-directory chunks are going
  351. # [02:27] * RyanVM|afk can't imagine that much crap being able to build up when we're launching new browser instances for each directory
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  353. # [02:28] <RyanVM|afk> but it's a stopgap, anyway
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  359. # [02:36] <philor> we need to retroactively require lolcommits for any pushes directly to mozilla-central
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  362. # [02:39] <philor> the statistic I want to know is how many of them were clearly cringing while someone involved with b2g screamed at them about their half-nightly
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  365. # [02:41] <@dolske> mrbkap: now what? :)
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  369. # [02:44] <@dolske> ....oh
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  377. # [02:50] <mjrosenb> whos a sherrif atm?
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  384. # [02:52] <nthomas> it was RyanVM, but end of day for him
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  388. # [02:52] <RyanVM> nthomas: KWierso disappeared
  389. # [02:52] <mrbkap> dolske: I'm doing the password manager for e10s.
  390. # [02:53] <nthomas> all the builds have started now, AFAICT
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  395. # [02:54] <mrbkap> dolske: So there will be some more patches coming towards you.
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  397. # [02:55] * mjrosenb is ready to pass out, and would /love/ it if someone could land a patch on some trees when the tree opens again.
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  399. # [02:56] <mrbkap> mjrosenb: checkin-needed ?
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  405. # [02:57] <jesup> So does anyone know for sure if b2g emulator debug builds are --enable-optimize or not?
  406. # [02:57] <jesup> the logs are annoyingly silent on this, and the "nice" hiding of the compiler options means I can't see the gcc/etc options directly
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  408. # [02:58] <jesup> gps: ^ perhaps?
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  418. # [02:59] <gps> jesup: I don't know. btw, bug 907890 is the one on making b2g builds not build gecko in silent mode. filed 8 months ago.
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  420. # [03:00] <jcranmer> I can't wait until ccrework lands
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  431. # [03:05] <@gavin> mrbkap: we're going to be trying to fix 853549 in the near term
  432. # [03:05] <@gavin> mrbkap: that might involve some need to coordinate with your e10s work
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  435. # [03:08] <mrbkap> gavin: Yeah, I was wondering what the status was, there.
  436. # [03:09] <mjrosenb> mrbkap: where is that?
  437. # [03:10] <@gavin> mrbkap: I'm jsut sending an email to paolo about it, I can CC you
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  439. # [03:10] <mrbkap> gavin: Please do.
  440. # [03:10] <mrbkap> gavin: Skimming the patch, it looks like I shouldn't have to worry too much, though.
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  443. # [03:11] <mrbkap> gavin: That's mostly touching the storage service pieces, whereas I'm working mostly on the content and nsILoginManager side.
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  445. # [03:12] <@gavin> mrbkap: ok
  446. # [03:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/231095210ed3 - Marty Rosenberg - bug 982398: Make sure a script isn't lazy before calling it.
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  448. # [03:13] <mrbkap> mjrosenb: You stick checkin-needed in the keywords of the bug that's ready to go and one of the sheriffs will land it for you.
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  453. # [03:18] <mjrosenb> ok, well since the tree opened, I landed on mi, but I'd still like an beta + aurora landing, since I don't have those trees lying around
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  455. # [03:18] <mjrosenb> and I don't have space for it.
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  460. # [03:19] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: feel like landing a patch on some trees for me?
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  463. # [03:22] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: tonight, no
  464. # [03:22] <RyanVM> in the morning, sure
  465. # [03:22] <RyanVM> (note that I query for branch approvals every morning anyway)
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  471. # [03:23] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: don't count on it
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  473. # [03:23] <RyanVM> what's the rush?
  474. # [03:24] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: oh, someone asked me to land something today.
  475. # [03:24] <RyanVM> branch uplifts?
  476. # [03:24] <mjrosenb> yup.
  477. # [03:24] <RyanVM> sylvestre?
  478. # [03:25] <RyanVM> beta6 already got tagged, fwiw, so that ship has sailed for a few days
  479. # [03:25] <mjrosenb> ahh, oh well.
  480. # [03:25] <RyanVM> in case that matters to you ;)
  481. # [03:25] <mjrosenb> when was it tagged? I have no clue when these things usually happen.
  482. # [03:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08812e846652 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 970063 - Ignore jit-test timeouts on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008. r=terrence
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  485. # [03:26] <RyanVM> 4:30ish PM our time
  486. # [03:26] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Beta
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  611. # [05:10] <@roc> mmm ok thanks
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  727. # [06:45] <@njn> DXR is down?
  728. # [06:45] <jcranmer> apparently
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  765. # [07:15] <@dbaron> hooray!
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  767. # [07:16] <glandium> dbaron: does that affect huge <pre>s like on tbpl logs?
  768. # [07:17] <@dbaron> glandium, I don't think so, but not sure
  769. # [07:17] <glandium> or is it really about ::first-letter
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  791. # [07:29] <@dbaron> glandium, much more than about ::first-letter -- that bit was fixing ::first-letter-related regressions from the primary patch
  792. # [07:30] <@dbaron> 353dde is "don't do way too much work every time the style of a text frame changes"
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  795. # [07:30] <@dbaron> 88f307 is "well, we do need to do that work in a few cases related to ::first-line and ::first-letter"
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  895. # [08:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/6a55381c8812 - Bevis Tseng - Bug 990918 - Part 1: Make RIL compatible for both new/old formats of ril.cellbroadcast.searchlist. r=htsai
  896. # [08:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d4f2542d3885 - Bevis Tseng - Bug 990918 - Part 2: Add Xpcshell Test Case for setCellBroadcastSearchList(). r=htsai
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  967. # [09:06] <mr_pants> hello ppl..
  968. # [09:06] <mr_pants> i'm making this application which attaches a javascript code at the end of a website content and processes it..
  969. # [09:07] <mr_pants> like say, returning the biggest image of the page..
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  971. # [09:07] <mr_pants> and i got to instantiate firefox each time to process the url....
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  973. # [09:08] <mr_pants> i really dont need firefox to render the page visually, it's only for script processing.....
  974. # [09:08] <mr_pants> is there a way i could use the gecko engine for the same?
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  1035. # [09:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi Mano
  1036. # [09:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Mano: sorry had to backout one of your changes
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  1038. # [09:39] <Mano> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hrm, why?
  1039. # [09:39] <nigelb> Morning Tomcat|sheriffduty
  1040. # [09:40] <ttaubert> Mano: m-oth bustage
  1041. # [09:40] <Mano> from my patch?
  1042. # [09:40] <Mano> btw, which one
  1043. # [09:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems so
  1044. # [09:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=3fbf2620c5de
  1045. # [09:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi nigelb
  1046. # [09:41] <ttaubert> Mano: the first one
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  1049. # [09:42] <Mano> probably a last minute typo
  1050. # [09:42] <Mano> thanks
  1051. # [09:42] <Mano> and sorry
  1052. # [09:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
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  1160. # [10:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey Mano does your checkin also resolve https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37425886&tree=Fx-Team
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  1162. # [10:57] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
  1163. # [10:58] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: any idea why 991989 didn’t get closed?
  1164. # [10:58] <Mano> Tomcat|sheriffduty: should.
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  1166. # [10:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: checking
  1167. # [10:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: done now, thanks
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  1169. # [10:59] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks!
  1170. # [11:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Mano: ok thx
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  1211. # [11:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey edmorley does the android failures on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b58574d60bfa is known for you ?
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  1213. # [11:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: sewardj made this try run and seems the error is something like /data/anr/traces.txt not found
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  1223. # [11:46] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: /data/anr/traces.txt not found is normal
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  1226. # [11:46] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: as for the issues loading libxul, not seen that before, not infra though, is just a broken try push
  1227. # [11:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ah ok because sewardj is not sure if this is caused by his push
  1228. # [11:47] <sewardj> edmorley: so what should I do? push to try again, or ignore those, or what?
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  1230. # [11:48] <edmorley> sewardj: the errors are real, the line that Tomcat picked as the 'error' is not it
  1231. # [11:48] <edmorley> sewardj: as for any more not sure, maybe speak to glandium since I know he understands the android library loading stuff
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  1234. # [11:50] <glandium> 04-07 18:46:34.589 E/GeckoLinker( 1891): /data/app/org.mozilla.fennec-1.apk!/assets/libxul.so: Error: relocation to NULL @0x01f83470 for symbol "pthread_rwlock_unlock"
  1235. # [11:50] <glandium> sewardj, edmorley: ^
  1236. # [11:51] <sewardj> glandium: ah
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  1239. # [11:52] <glandium> we should really be more consistent on the logcat error levels, and highlight the logcat errors on tbpl
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  1243. # [11:52] <sewardj> glandium: bionic/whatever-their-libpthread-is-called doesn't have reader-writer locks on Android 2.2 ?
  1244. # [11:53] <glandium> sewardj: apparently not
  1245. # [11:53] <sewardj> glandium: dang
  1246. # [11:53] <sewardj> glandium: is there any known workaround (apart from "don't do that, then") ?
  1247. # [11:54] <glandium> sewardj: i don't know
  1248. # [11:54] <glandium> apparently, the first libc.so from the ndk to have it is API level 9, which is 2.3
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  1250. # [11:55] <edmorley> glandium: ty, missed that in the logcat, didn't look high enough up
  1251. # [11:55] <glandium> sewardj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861146
  1252. # [11:55] <glandium> edmorley: it's just a few lines above the loadGeckoLibsNative error in logcat
  1253. # [11:56] <edmorley> ah yeah
  1254. # [11:56] <edmorley> agree about being consistent with logcat levels fwiw
  1255. # [11:56] <sewardj> glandium: thanks. Is there a way to write in the sources, the equivalent of "#if ANDROID_VERSION >= 2.3" so as to conditionalise out the failing targets?
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  1260. # [11:58] <glandium> sewardj: it's the same builds we use for 2.2 and 4.0. that #if would be useless
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  1262. # [11:59] <sewardj> glandium: so .. that implies I actually don't really have pthread_rwlock_t available for use on any android platform .. do I understand correctly?
  1263. # [11:59] <glandium> sewardj: yes. essentially you're limited to what's supported by 2.2
  1264. # [11:59] <glandium> and you workaround as you can
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  1266. # [12:00] <glandium> we have various workarounds for various things
  1267. # [12:00] <sewardj> glandium: ok .. so I'll have to find a reader-writer lock implementation from somewhere.
  1268. # [12:00] <glandium> sewardj: check the webrtc stuff
  1269. # [12:00] <sewardj> sounds like the webrtc code has one (per bug 861146)
  1270. # [12:00] <sewardj> yes
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  1272. # [12:00] <sewardj> glandium: thanks
  1273. # [12:01] <glandium> np
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  1288. # [12:13] <sewardj> glandium: hmm .. I thought the whole point of NSPR was to insulate us from this kind of thing
  1289. # [12:13] <sewardj> maybe I should use that
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  1291. # [12:14] <glandium> i wish there were less uses of nspr, not more
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  1297. # [12:18] <sewardj> glandium: what I need right now is to be able to build the Android 2.2 configurations locally
  1298. # [12:18] <sewardj> glandium: are the relevant mozconfig files in the tree somewhere?
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  1301. # [12:19] <sewardj> I seem to remember we have some somewhere
  1302. # [12:19] <glandium> sewardj: a default build for android will get you that
  1303. # [12:19] <sewardj> glandium: default == no mozconfig?
  1304. # [12:19] <glandium> sewardj: the problem is having a 2.2 *device* to run it on
  1305. # [12:19] <glandium> sewardj: no, default android build
  1306. # [12:19] <glandium> sewardj: check the fennec wiki
  1307. # [12:19] <sewardj> glandium: k. a 2.2 build won't run on a later device?
  1308. # [12:20] <glandium> there is no such thing as a "2.2 build"
  1309. # [12:20] <glandium> there is armv7 build
  1310. # [12:20] <glandium> they run on devices from 2.2 to 4.4
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  1319. # [12:25] <sewardj> glandium: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android mentions only API 16 and up, for Android 4.1.2
  1320. # [12:25] <glandium> sewardj: that's the java api
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  1322. # [12:26] <glandium> sewardj: and again, the default gives you the same as what we use on automated builds
  1323. # [12:26] <glandium> (for the ndk api)
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  1326. # [12:27] <sewardj> glandium: sure .. I saw you said that, but basically I don't understand what I have to do to get a "default" build
  1327. # [12:27] <sewardj> glandium: do I need a specific mozconfig? Or something else?
  1328. # [12:27] <glandium> sewardj: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android#Setup_Fennec_mozconfig
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  1332. # [12:29] <sewardj> glandium: ok, I will try that
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  1340. # [12:33] <glandium> sewardj: note, maybe it's time to bring up the issue of 2.2 again. cf. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=850713#c12
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  1362. # [12:57] <jez> What's the best way to update the status bar text in SeaMonkey?
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  1377. # [13:05] <@smaug> why try didn't give me pgo builds :/
  1378. # [13:05] <@smaug> I thought https://hg.mozilla.org/try/diff/25d2e4098dac/build/mozconfig.common.override would be enough
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  1388. # [13:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> peterv: could you take a look at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37432913&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, its a failure from your push
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  1390. # [13:16] <Ms2ger> Woop
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  1392. # [13:18] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, it's the ModalWindow patch, fwiw
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  1395. # [13:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok thanks Ms2ger
  1396. # [13:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> peterv: ping
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  1407. # [13:28] <peterv> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking
  1408. # [13:29] <Ms2ger> peterv, you're missing some roots, see https://ftp-ssl.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-br-haz/20140408040327/rootingHazards.txt.gz
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  1416. # [13:32] <peterv> Tomcat|sheriffduty: checking in a fix
  1417. # [13:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> peterv: cool ! thx
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  1424. # [13:41] <peterv> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pushed, going for lunch, feel free to back out if that doesn't fix it
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  1426. # [13:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72b4d4463629 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix rooting hazards from 4fbe5c6db773 (Bug 990475).
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  1428. # [13:42] <Fallen> Is there way to reset the cached instance that is loaded when doing Cc[...].getService() ?
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  1430. # [13:42] <Fallen> I want to replace a service in a test and it seems when the test is called the service has already been instanciated
  1431. # [13:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> peterv: ok will do :) enjoy your lunch
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  1507. # [14:33] <bbouvier> we don't have valgrind running firefox (or the JS shell) on tbpl yet, right?
  1508. # [14:33] <RyanVM> bbouvier: yes we do
  1509. # [14:33] <RyanVM> "V" jobs on linux64 opt
  1510. # [14:34] <RyanVM> starts a browser and runs through the PGO suite
  1511. # [14:34] <bbouvier> RyanVM: nice, do the tests fail if there is a leak?
  1512. # [14:34] <RyanVM> yes
  1513. # [14:35] <bbouvier> cool
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  1515. # [14:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1517. # [14:36] <RyanVM> bbouvier: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981359 for example :)
  1518. # [14:36] <RyanVM> bbouvier: that said, keep in mind that the PGO suite is just sunspider and some static pages, so it's not much
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  1520. # [14:37] <RyanVM> bbouvier: we have bugs on file for expanding that coverage, but perf is obviously an issue blocking it
  1521. # [14:37] <bbouvier> RyanVM: i can easily imagine that, yes
  1522. # [14:38] <RyanVM> bbouvier: anyway, about your comment in the bug
  1523. # [14:38] <RyanVM> I'd get it landed
  1524. # [14:38] * bbouvier wonders how much time it would take to run all jit-tests under valgrind
  1525. # [14:38] <bbouvier> RyanVM: in case there is support in the future?
  1526. # [14:38] <RyanVM> JS shell tests are something that would probably be near the top of the list for expanded coverage
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  1528. # [14:38] <@ted> bbouvier: talk to njn, fwiw
  1529. # [14:38] <nbp> bbouvier: 1:30h ?
  1530. # [14:38] <@ted> jit-tests are kind of slow, but probably not as bad as most of the browser suites
  1531. # [14:39] <@ted> RyanVM: can you branch land those patches for me?
  1532. # [14:39] <@ted> i can pull aurora and beta but it's going to take a little bit
  1533. # [14:39] <RyanVM> ted: once you get approval ;)
  1534. # [14:39] <@ted> just got it
  1535. # [14:39] <RyanVM> then I'll take care of them
  1536. # [14:39] <@ted> <3
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  1539. # [14:41] <nbp> Tomcat|sheriffduty: what does "i;r" means?
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  1541. # [14:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nbp: infra retrigger
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  1545. # [14:42] <RyanVM> ttaubert: ping
  1546. # [14:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems the build timed out while pulling from a external repo
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  1549. # [14:44] <ttaubert> RyanVM: yes?
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  1552. # [14:45] <RyanVM> ttaubert: any idea why we hit random leaks in tabview tests when the chunking balance shifts? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3511af741d82
  1553. # [14:45] <RyanVM> that bc2 was a perma-leak when it attempted to land on fx-team yesterday
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  1555. # [14:45] <RyanVM> and that bug blocks a major test cleanup from landing
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  1562. # [14:47] <ttaubert> RyanVM: that looks exactly like...
  1563. # [14:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8513f4c3ad94 - Neil Deakin - Bug 992229, convert device to css pixels before setting menupopup position after move or resize, r=tn
  1564. # [14:47] <ttaubert> RyanVM: bug 989083
  1565. # [14:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2c661f15fcd - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, tweak bookmark panel animations, patch by philipp sackl, r=enn
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  1568. # [14:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d79336c9d19 - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, check for a transition earlier to avoid assertion if a panel is opened while it is closing, r=neil
  1569. # [14:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96fe80857423 - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, add cycle collection to TransitionEnder to prevent leak, r=smaug
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  1571. # [14:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/127895063bb0 - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, fix tests to disable arrow panel transitions to speed them up and fix mouse targetting issues, r=felipe
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  1573. # [14:47] <ttaubert> RyanVM: which has a patch that would work but we can't figure out where that leak is coming from. places causes this somehow
  1574. # [14:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4f3408af361 - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, arrow panels should animate when opening and when cancelling, r=neil,dao
  1575. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c65c5250c1f2 - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, tweak arrow panel animations, patch by philipp sackl, r=enn
  1576. # [14:48] <RyanVM> ttaubert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=988313#c22
  1577. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f1702d62ee1 - Neil Deakin - Bug 610545, add animation to bookmarks panel, r=dao
  1578. # [14:48] <RyanVM> so I guess we *could* try re-enabling them to see if the balance changes just enough to go green :P
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  1581. # [14:49] <RyanVM> ttaubert: i'm a bit confused by the last comment in the bug - so the workaround patch doesn't work?
  1582. # [14:50] <ttaubert> RyanVM: it does work but mak isn't comfortable landing it without figuring out what actually causes the leak, because that really shouldn't leak
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  1587. # [14:52] <kgrandon> sweet openssl bug… interesting seeing the internet burn..
  1588. # [14:53] <RyanVM> ttaubert: I'm going to have pbrosset push that patch to Try on top of his queue - if it works, I'm going to push *very* hard to land it as a temporary fix for now
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  1590. # [14:53] <Ms2ger> kgrandon, in the sense that you can see it, even if it's burning over SSL?
  1591. # [14:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b1ca7b19fb7 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 993360 - Check for the max texture size when allocating d3d TextureClients. r=mattwoodrow
  1592. # [14:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/646738ed6494 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 993360 - Don't try to lock a texture if it failed to allocate. r=mattwoodrow
  1593. # [14:53] <ttaubert> RyanVM: cool
  1594. # [14:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed66b387798a - Nicolas Silva - Bug 993360 - Always use DXGI_FORMAT_B8G8R8A8_UNORM with d3d11 OMTC. r=mattwoodrow
  1595. # [14:54] <kgrandon> Ms2ger: just crazy seeing lots of services shut down and scramble to fix it…
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  1597. # [14:55] <RyanVM> ttaubert: also, I was told you're the guy to ping about bug 949432 (by way of reviewing bug 883609?) :)
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  1599. # [14:55] <Ms2ger> I'm surprised we don't seem to be scrambling
  1600. # [14:55] <RyanVM> NSS FTW? :)
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  1603. # [14:55] <RyanVM> (until someone finds our version of goto fail)
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  1605. # [14:55] <padenot> we use zeus for eveything facing the internet
  1606. # [14:56] <padenot> that does not use openssl
  1607. # [14:56] <kgrandon> good to know :)
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  1609. # [14:56] <till> RyanVM: luckily we have dozens of people at the ready to fix any bugs someone might find in NSS
  1610. # [14:56] <padenot> (speaking of websites, here, not firefox and co)
  1611. # [14:56] <RyanVM> till: yes, "dozens"
  1612. # [14:56] <froydnj> "dozens"?
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  1614. # [14:57] <Alessar> Hello. Can you help me with isuue with makefile?
  1615. # [14:57] <till> if not hundreds
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  1617. # [14:57] <Ms2ger> Let's stick with "people"
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  1619. # [14:57] <padenot> well, don't count me in
  1620. # [14:57] <RyanVM> froydnj: kaie must of fixed the cloning machine
  1621. # [14:57] <ttaubert> RyanVM: yes totally, I'll try to get it review asap :|
  1622. # [14:57] <ttaubert> *reviewed
  1623. # [14:57] <RyanVM> ttaubert: thanks :)
  1624. # [14:57] <till> I mean, who *doesn't* know NSS inside-out?
  1625. # [14:57] <froydnj> RyanVM: he's a selfish jerk for keeping it to himself, then
  1626. # [14:58] <RyanVM> till: pfft, I thought that was mandatory onboarding material
  1627. # [14:58] <froydnj> Ms2ger: not even sure "people" is correct
  1628. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> "person"?
  1629. # [14:58] <RyanVM> froydnj: well, there's at least 2 :)
  1630. # [14:58] <RyanVM> not necessarily at moco, but still :P
  1631. # [14:58] * till is glad RyanVM is not on sheriffduty, given his clearly-delusional state of mind
  1632. # [14:59] <RyanVM> :)
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  1638. # [15:03] <Yoric|governanceduty> I've been asked to stop being the only one who answers on governance.
  1639. # [15:03] <Yoric|governanceduty> So back to coding :)
  1640. # [15:03] * Yoric|governanceduty is now known as Yoric
  1641. # [15:03] <nigelb> Yoric: should we start a governance thread on that? :P
  1642. # [15:03] <Yoric> :)
  1643. # [15:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
  1644. # [15:03] <hub> then he'd be the only replying to the thread
  1645. # [15:03] <nigelb> I still have governance on ignore :|
  1646. # [15:04] <nigelb> hub: hah
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  1648. # [15:04] <Yoric> Well, I might complain about this way to reduce my rights to free speech.
  1649. # [15:04] <hub> I spent 3 minutes reading it, then GTFO
  1650. # [15:04] <Yoric> hub: I believe that we need to answer.
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  1653. # [15:04] <Yoric> Most of the posters are not simple trolls, despite my initial fears.
  1654. # [15:04] <hub> 3 minutes I never got back
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  1657. # [15:05] <Yoric> Well, I want my web back.
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  1661. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> Yoric, wait until bz gets up? :)
  1662. # [15:10] <Yoric> Well, I'm waiting for bz to take governance duty :)
  1663. # [15:11] <Yoric> Anyway, gov will probably not progress until message have gone through gerv-moderation.
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  1668. # [15:11] <gerv> You know you can avoid moderation for yourself by simply joining the group?
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  1670. # [15:12] <gerv> Yoric: What's your email you use in governance?
  1671. # [15:12] <Alessar> Anybody knows gmake?
  1672. # [15:12] <Alessar> ...or makefile
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  1674. # [15:12] <Yoric> gerv: Actually, I believe that my e-mails go through. Just not the answers.
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  1677. # [15:13] <Yoric> Alessar: What's the question?
  1678. # [15:13] <gerv> There's only 6 messages in the queue right now.
  1679. # [15:13] <Yoric> Ok.
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  1681. # [15:13] <Yoric> Then the next wave isn't awake yet.
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  1683. # [15:13] <Yoric> (I suppose)
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  1689. # [15:14] <kgrandon> commit that fixes heartbleed: http://git.openssl.org/gitweb/?p=openssl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96db9023b881d7cd9f379b0c154650d6c108e9a3
  1690. # [15:14] <kgrandon> what's a unit test anyway?
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  1692. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> Ha
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  1695. # [15:15] <Alessar> In makefile I see something code: CONFIGS = $(wildcard $(srcdir)/_winnt*.cfg)
  1696. # [15:15] <Alessar> And in place: $(INSTALL) -m 444 $(CONFIGS) $(dist_includedir)/md
  1697. # [15:15] <Alessar> I get error like: command '.......' failed, return code -127
  1698. # [15:15] <Alessar> Also I can see full command with echo: nsinstall -m 444 d:/work/firefoxos/sourceTHREE/nsprpub/pr/include/md/_winnt.cfg d:/work/firefoxos/sourceTHREE/obj_build/dist/include/nspr/md
  1699. # [15:15] <Alessar> I am confusing because in nsinstall.py I add something like print("hello") and it code doesnot happen!
  1700. # [15:15] <Alessar> Yoric: Could you helpme?
  1701. # [15:16] <Yoric> Not really, I'm afraid.
  1702. # [15:16] <Yoric> Sorry.
  1703. # [15:17] <sheppy> Is there a known issue with Nightly being crashy the last two or three days?
  1704. # [15:17] <Yoric> gerv: governance watch feels a bit like tower defense. Waiting for the next wave :)
  1705. # [15:17] <padenot> sheppy: yes, ggc
  1706. # [15:17] <gerv> :-)
  1707. # [15:17] * Ms2ger throws balloons at Yoric
  1708. # [15:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b61df0983d6 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 993360 - Don't crash when a region is passed to DataTextureSourceD3D*::Update. r=mattwoodrow
  1709. # [15:17] <padenot> at least in my experience
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  1712. # [15:17] <sheppy> padenot: OK… I don’t know what “ggc” is but good to know I’m not the only one seeing this.
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  1714. # [15:18] <sheppy> Crashes and long pauses.
  1715. # [15:18] <Yoric> Generational Garbage Collection?
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  1717. # [15:18] <padenot> sheppy: yes, generational garbage collection
  1718. # [15:18] <sheppy> Ahhhh!
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  1739. # [15:29] <ttaubert> RyanVM: just talked to mak and he come up with a better fix for this. looks like you don't need to push too hard. will test and post a new patch soon
  1740. # [15:29] <ttaubert> *came up
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  1744. # [15:30] <RyanVM> ttaubert: win :)
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  1755. # [15:36] <padenot> RyanVM: what would be the procedure to get something landed for b2g 1.4, that already has the approval?
  1756. # [15:37] <RyanVM> "wait"
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  1760. # [15:38] <RyanVM> padenot: bug # ?
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  1764. # [15:40] <padenot> RyanVM: bug 976172
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  1766. # [15:41] <RyanVM> padenot: k, it has blocking status
  1767. # [15:41] <RyanVM> so it'll turn up in the "needs uplift" queries once it hits m-c and gets resolved
  1768. # [15:41] <RyanVM> if it's 1.4-only, put a checkin-needed-aurora on the whiteboard
  1769. # [15:41] <padenot> ah, ok
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  1771. # [15:42] <padenot> inbound has diverged a bit, so I'm waiting on a patch that applies cleanly there from the author
  1772. # [15:42] <RyanVM> padenot: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/B2G_Landing#Landing_Procedure_5 for future reference
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  1774. # [15:42] <padenot> thanks
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  1793. # [15:51] <RyanVM> padenot: you misunderstood me
  1794. # [15:51] <padenot> ha
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  1798. # [15:51] <RyanVM> padenot: it doesn't land on Aurora until it hits m-c *unless* m-c isn't affected at all
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  1801. # [15:52] <padenot> okay, then
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  1866. # [16:20] <till> can an admin kick KindOne? He's Max SendQ exceeded-spamming #jsapi and other channels
  1867. # [16:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebcdd5ea79ab - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 989759 part 1 - Identify every ResumePoint RInstruction. r=jandem
  1868. # [16:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c4295f019eb - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 989759 part 2 - Dispatch base on the instruction identifier. r=jandem
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  1893. # [16:30] <Gijs> jandem++ for the quick response in bug 991457 :)
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  1898. # [16:34] <RyanVM> ttaubert: mak: thanks for the quick work in bug 989083 :)
  1899. # [16:34] <jandem> Gijs: smallish testcase helped a lot :)
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  1902. # [16:35] <ttaubert> RyanVM: *crossing-fingers*
  1903. # [16:36] <RyanVM> esawin: ping
  1904. # [16:36] <esawin> RyanVM: pong.
  1905. # [16:36] <RyanVM> esawin: hi, any other ideas on bug 986458?
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  1907. # [16:37] <@bsmedberg> jmaher|bbiab: ping when you return
  1908. # [16:38] <esawin> RyanVM: I haven't looked into other options besides the proposed patch yet. I would need to reproduce it locally to find out more I guess, unfortunately I'm running on the only system it doesn't leak...
  1909. # [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee5d2f8d5c7d - Nathan Froyd - Bug 988829 - convert intl/uconv/ucvlatin/ to use Endian.h; r=smontagu
  1910. # [16:38] <RyanVM> esawin: if you need a loaner slave, just ask :)
  1911. # [16:38] <esawin> RyanVM: how would that work?
  1912. # [16:39] <RyanVM> file a releng bug, they provision you a slave with remote access, and you do whatever you need to do from there :)
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  1917. # [16:40] <RyanVM> esawin: Release Engineering::Loan Requests
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  1922. # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/552251cb84b9 - Mike Conley - Bug 989761 - Make sure background tabs have the right z-index in relation to the classic theme fog. r=dao, a=sledru.
  1923. # [16:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5e0b16fe8951 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 988191 - change to WCAG algorithm for titlebar font, r=jaws, a=sledru.
  1924. # [16:42] <esawin> OK, sounds good. I have to finish another patch though before getting into that. is it the last of the bugs causing issues with the new bc chunking?
  1925. # [16:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1a92004a684f - Neil Deakin - Bug 972566, when a window is resized, panels should be repositioned after the view reflow rather than within the webshell listener, r=tn, a=lsblakk.
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  1928. # [16:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3f2d6f68c415 - Mike Conley - Bug 984455 - Bookmarks menu and toolbar context menus can be broken after underflowing from nav-bar chevron. r=mak,mdeboer,Gijs. a=sledru.
  1929. # [16:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a90a4219b520 - Mike Conley - Backed out changeset 9fc38ffaff75 (bug 986920)
  1930. # [16:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/274d760590d5 - Mike de Boer - [Australis] Bug 986324: small refactor of urlbar and search field styles. r=dao, a=sledru.
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  1951. # [16:51] <jmaher> bsmedberg: ping
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  1953. # [16:52] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: just wanted to follow up on who owns next steps on bug 993084. Is it possible to run tests around the changesets I identified to figure out which is responsible?
  1954. # [16:53] <@bsmedberg> also whether this affects anything other than linux tspaint
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  1957. # [16:53] <jmaher> bsmedberg: it is on my short list for today, I will verify what specific tests/platforms it is on and I can do some try pushes to help narrow down the scope
  1958. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> thanks
  1959. # [16:54] <till> bsmedberg: ping
  1960. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> till: pong
  1961. # [16:55] <till> bsmedberg: hey, so I still haven't received any nagging emails from the weekly-updates dashboard since many months now
  1962. # [16:55] <till> bsmedberg: I commented on the github issue, but can't reopen it, so thought I should follow up here
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  1964. # [16:55] <@bsmedberg> yeah... the notification emails work but apparently not the nags
  1965. # [16:55] <@bsmedberg> I haven't debugged it
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  1969. # [16:57] <till> ok. It's certainly not of the highest priority
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  1985. # [17:02] <nemo> so, marquee is dead and buried, so this doesn't really matter much at all...
  1986. # [17:02] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase371.xhtml but I was suprised how slow and flickery this was in IE and Firefox
  1987. # [17:03] <nemo> I guess no one bothered to accelerate it
  1988. # [17:03] <nemo> kinda reminded me of attempting same bounce in, oh, JS
  1989. # [17:03] <nemo> although I think that would actually render more smoothly
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  2027. # [17:23] <@ted> nemo: heh
  2028. # [17:23] <@ted> nemo: yeah, if we cared we could probably do that with CSS animations or whatever
  2029. # [17:23] <@ted> and have it be smooth as butter
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  2054. # [17:39] <nemo> ted: wellll you can't actually do that with css animation
  2055. # [17:39] <nemo> ted: does require JS
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  2057. # [17:39] <nemo> although much much much less JS than before
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  2060. # [17:39] <nemo> ted: essentially an animation for each bounce.
  2061. # [17:39] <@ted> because of the bouncing
  2062. # [17:39] <@ted> yeah
  2063. # [17:39] <@ted> the animation itself should be pretty smooth, i'd think
  2064. # [17:39] <nemo> mm
  2065. # [17:40] <@ted> (if we did that)
  2066. # [17:40] <nemo> ted: well. the reason this came up was someone was discussing what an awful idea <marquee> was
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  2068. # [17:41] <nemo> ted: and I'd noted that due to the misuse of marquee or ignorance of it (and later, lack of browser implementations) people did those slow scrolling news scrolling upwards news tickers in JS which was slow, jerky, and sucked up a ton of CPU
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  2070. # [17:41] <nemo> ted: so I whipped up a quick test to show smoothness, and was surprised it was still slow and flickery
  2071. # [17:41] <nemo> even.... jiggly
  2072. # [17:41] <nemo> but maybe that's an issue w/ bounce
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  2075. # [17:42] <nemo> ted: nowdays ofc a vertically scrolling news feed can easily be done w/ css animation too, and probably butter-smooth
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  2105. # [17:50] <jld> ted: Do you know who'd be the right person to ask about how crash reporting works on B2G? In particular, where crash dumps go and how to get them? MDN is a little light on details.
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  2107. # [17:51] <nemo> jld: I thought that b2g used adb
  2108. # [17:52] <jld> (I suspect the answers are "to the phone vendor" and "you don't", which will make bug 992665 "fun".)
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  2117. # [17:54] <nemo> huh. interesting.
  2118. # [17:55] <nemo> I assumed the crash reports would be in usual places and I could just grab w/ adb, but nooooo
  2119. # [17:55] <jld> nemo: adb is supported, but I'm trying to get the stack for a crash
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  2122. # [17:55] <jld> nemo: "/data/b2g/mozilla/Crash Reports/pending", maybe
  2123. # [17:55] <nemo> jld: well. developer.mozilla.org describes debugging w/ gdb
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  2126. # [17:55] <jld> And in that case there's a log line about how the crash was submitted, but not where.
  2127. # [17:56] <nemo> but I guess that doesn't help if the crash already happened
  2128. # [17:56] <nemo> oh. a crash report *was* generated. nice.
  2129. # [17:56] <nemo> well. np then :)
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  2132. # [17:56] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=b2g-crash-reporting
  2133. # [17:57] <nemo> heh. greeeeat
  2134. # [17:57] <nemo> The UI for crash reporting is being tracked on GitHub, BTW: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/issues/4149
  2135. # [17:57] <nemo> which 404s
  2136. # [17:57] <jld> ...
  2137. # [17:57] <nemo> I do wish people would just use bugzilla. I find the UI much friendlier
  2138. # [17:57] <nemo> esp when I'm in alpine/w3m
  2139. # [17:57] <jld> As for gdb, that looks like it's assuming you've done a local build.
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  2148. # [18:02] <nemo> hrm. prob a bit OT, but, eh, came up before (many times) and idling is high right now... http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/08/mother-jones-ok-cupid-push-against-mozil
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  2174. # [18:16] <Waldo> hmm, have we given much consideration to JITting CSS selector matching at all?
  2175. # [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22a4fae1f56a - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 993071 - Rename FunctionBoundary IR instructions to ProfilerStackOp. r=luke
  2176. # [18:17] <froydnj> epsilon only, afaik
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  2178. # [18:17] <jld> Waldo: I think pcwalton had some unconventional ideas about it for Servo, but that may not be "we".
  2179. # [18:17] <mccr8> Waldo: yes, I think a few people have at least thought about it, in light of WebKit trying it out
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  2181. # [18:18] <mccr8> it didn't seem like it rose to the level of having a bug filed or anything
  2182. # [18:18] <Waldo> that's about where I thought things were, yeah
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  2184. # [18:18] <Waldo> the idea of JIT As A Service by SpiderMonkey is kind of a fearsome concept :-)
  2185. # [18:18] <jld> To wit, making the CSS parser emit machine language and then disassembling it if some other representation is needed. There's a blog post somewhere...
  2186. # [18:18] <Waldo> (which presumably would be some sort of prerequisite to doing anything)
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  2188. # [18:19] <Waldo> disassembling...raises my hackles
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  2191. # [18:20] <jld> ...or maybe a mailing list post: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.servo/49g2izLWsls
  2192. # [18:20] <Jesse> why would evil CSS trigger an IPDL error? is firefox using multiple processes for graphics now?
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  2194. # [18:20] <mccr8> resurrect the JS engine's decompiler for CSS!
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  2196. # [18:21] <jld> Specifically, what was proposed was template-based code generation for CSS, so "disassembly" is not quite so horrifying.
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  2198. # [18:21] <mccr8> Jesse: which platform? there's OMTC and APZC and various things.
  2199. # [18:21] <Jesse> mac
  2200. # [18:21] <kats> OMTC is enabled on mac
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  2202. # [18:22] <kats> so the compositor runs in a different thread and IPDL is used to send it stuff
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  2206. # [18:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c19e0e0a8535 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 986678 - Fix type check in TryAddTypeBarrierForWrite. r=bhackett, a=abillings
  2207. # [18:22] <mccr8> Jesse: see bug 963790 for various bugs that have been fixed in layers stuff with IPDL
  2208. # [18:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ed9793adc2c7 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 986843 - Don't sweep empty zones if they contain marked compartments. r=terrence, a=sledru
  2209. # [18:23] <jld> ...note to self: see if the Synthesis kernel did that kind of pseudo-disassembly of its own executable data structures.
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  2217. # [18:25] <@ted> jld: unless they're fiddling with our default settings, crash reports should go to crash-stats
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  2220. # [18:25] <@ted> it's not hard to override that, but i have no idea what vendors are doing
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  2228. # [18:27] <Waldo> mccr8: I am giving you the evil eye right now
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  2230. # [18:28] <jld> ted: crash-stats doesn't recognize the UUID from the log. It also has nothing in the "B2G" product.
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  2232. # [18:28] <@ted> jld: crash-stats' handling of b2g is funky right now
  2233. # [18:29] <@ted> jld: sorry you mentioned a bug and i didn't look at it
  2234. # [18:29] <@ted> jld: what vendor is this phone from?
  2235. # [18:29] <jld> ted: bug 992665, and geeksphone.
  2236. # [18:29] <@ted> okay
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  2238. # [18:29] <@ted> they should be submitting crash reports to us
  2239. # [18:29] <@ted> they're uploading symbols
  2240. # [18:30] <@ted> jld: okay, so, the "submitting crash" line is not actually useful
  2241. # [18:30] <@ted> that's the client-side UUID for the minidump file
  2242. # [18:30] <jld> Ah.
  2243. # [18:30] <@ted> not the server-side UUID
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  2246. # [18:31] <@ted> jld: if it was submitted they should be able to find a record under /data/b2g/mozilla/Crash Reports/submitted
  2247. # [18:31] <@ted> and the filename will be the id on crash-stats
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  2249. # [18:31] <@ted> i don't think there's any UI like about:crashes on phone right now
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  2256. # [18:35] <blassey> when I launch firefox desktop from commandline on mac, I can't type in the browser window
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  2258. # [18:35] <blassey> is there any work around for that?
  2259. # [18:35] <blassey> (things I type go to the terminal)
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  2263. # [18:36] <jld> ted: Well, I've found https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/92368b9a-e352-4a76-88bc-f39482140315 which is a *different* sandbox bug.
  2264. # [18:36] * curtisk is now known as curtisk|afk
  2265. # [18:36] <jld> ted: ...and which is not helped by not having non-DWARF symbol names for libc. Sigh.
  2266. # [18:36] <@ted> exciting
  2267. # [18:36] <@ted> jld: sorry, i know that patch is still in my queue :-/
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  2270. # [18:36] <froydnj> jld: ETOOMANYNEGATIONS
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  2272. # [18:37] <@ted> jld: if you can get the matching OS build you can dump the symbols out of that library and reprocess that minidump locally
  2273. # [18:37] <jld> ted: No, that's the patch to get the unwind info for those functions; I haven't fixed their not having names.
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  2276. # [18:38] <@ted> ah
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  2280. # [18:38] <@ted> well that part's not terribly hard, you can probably just use addr2line or something
  2281. # [18:39] <@smaug> blassey: launching from wrong place?
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  2287. # [18:41] <jld> ted: Possibly-stupid question: crash-stats tells me "You need to be signed in to be able to download raw dumps.", but I am signed in. Do I need to ask someone for access?
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  2290. # [18:41] <blassey> smaug: what's the right place?
  2291. # [18:41] <padenot> blassey: use ./mach run -profile blabla
  2292. # [18:41] <padenot> blassey: or there is a flag to pass, but I can't remember which
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  2298. # [18:42] * @smaug can't recall the right .app to run. Hasn't used osx for ages, but recall that if wrong binary is run, keyboard handling doesn't work
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  2302. # [18:43] <jez> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_the_Clipboard
  2303. # [18:43] <Ms2ger> blassey, why? It's clearly more useful than trying to find the right .app yourself
  2304. # [18:43] <jld> Seriously I just need, like, the low 9 bits of r7 on the crashing thread.
  2305. # [18:43] <jez> Question: is that tutorial right when it multiplies the string length by two "because it's Unicode"?
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  2308. # [18:43] <jez> surely UTF-16 characters can be 2 or 4 bytes
  2309. # [18:43] <@ehsan> blassey: does firefox start in the background for you? I'm pretty sure I fixed that
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  2311. # [18:44] <blassey> ehsan: it does
  2312. # [18:44] <@ehsan> o_O
  2313. # [18:44] <blassey> Ms2ger: the right .app is pretty easy to find
  2314. # [18:44] <@ehsan> blassey: see bug 863754
  2315. # [18:44] <blassey> but, I'm running from dist/bin
  2316. # [18:44] <@ted> jld: you need a special rawdumps permission, yes
  2317. # [18:44] <blassey> which used to work
  2318. # [18:44] <@ehsan> blassey: what is the command that mach runs?
  2319. # [18:44] <@ted> jld: lemme just send you this dump
  2320. # [18:44] <blassey> but, I also haven't done osx dev in a long long time
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  2323. # [18:45] <blassey> ehsan: /Volumes/source/mozilla-central/objdir-osx/dist/Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -no-remote -foreground
  2324. # [18:45] <blassey> so it passes -foreground
  2325. # [18:45] <@ehsan> yeah
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  2327. # [18:45] <@ehsan> do you have an existing firefox running?
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  2330. # [18:45] <blassey> ehsan: with mach it comes to the foreground
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  2333. # [18:46] <jez> anyone here know how nsITransferable works with "text/unicode" data?
  2334. # [18:46] <@ehsan> blassey: wait, so what's the problem?
  2335. # [18:46] <blassey> ehsan: until 30s ago I had never run firefox using mach
  2336. # [18:46] <@ehsan> jez: what do you mean?
  2337. # [18:46] <@ehsan> ah
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  2339. # [18:46] <@ehsan> blassey: so, does that mean your problem is fixed?
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  2341. # [18:46] * @ehsan is puzzled
  2342. # [18:46] <jez> ehsan: code snippets like: trans.setTransferData("text/unicode", SupportsString(textUnicode), textUnicode.length * 2); // *2 because it's unicode
  2343. # [18:46] <blassey> ehsan: yes, solution is apparently to run with mach
  2344. # [18:46] <jez> the text string length is multiplied by 2, but that seems unsound
  2345. # [18:46] <froydnj> jez: the str.length value isn't measuring surrogate pairs etc. afaik
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  2348. # [18:47] <@ehsan> oh
  2349. # [18:47] <jez> what is it measuring then?
  2350. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> Byte length / 2?
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  2352. # [18:47] <@ehsan> blassey: there is another bug to make -foreground the default!
  2353. # [18:47] <jez> you mean *2
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  2355. # [18:47] <@ted> jld: emailed
  2356. # [18:47] <froydnj> no
  2357. # [18:47] <@ehsan> jez: setTransferData gets the number of bytes iirc
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  2359. # [18:47] <froydnj> he means that the string is some # of bytes long
  2360. # [18:48] <froydnj> and str.length is that number of bytes / 2
  2361. # [18:48] <jez> UTF-16 cannot be assumed to be characters*2
  2362. # [18:48] <blassey> ehsan, smaug: thanks for the help
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  2364. # [18:48] <@ehsan> blassey: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863754#c12
  2365. # [18:48] <froydnj> that is a correct statement
  2366. # [18:48] <@ehsan> blassey: good luck convincing smichaud :(
  2367. # [18:48] <blassey> oh wait
  2368. # [18:48] <@ehsan> blassey: (I think I made a dev.platform post and everyone sided with me ;)
  2369. # [18:48] <froydnj> but in this case, that's not what we care about
  2370. # [18:48] <@ted> jld: file a bug to get raw dump access
  2371. # [18:48] <blassey> when you run with ./mach it forks a new process?
  2372. # [18:49] <blassey> that's not what I wanted
  2373. # [18:49] <@ehsan> blassey: no it doesn't
  2374. # [18:49] <jez> i'm sort of surprised there isn't some wrapper around javascript that just takes case of "number of bytes" for you anyway
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  2377. # [18:49] <NeilAway> dholbert: the build should fail if you forget to turn on FAIL_ON_WARNINGS in a warning-free directory ;-)
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  2379. # [18:50] <jez> in fact, why does setTransferData even need "length"?
  2380. # [18:50] <jez> can't that be determined from the second argument?
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  2386. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> jez, dumb XPIDL APIs?
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  2389. # [18:52] <jez> Ms2ger: illogical, more like
  2390. # [18:52] <jez> i mean, what happens if i specify the wrong length? it's just redundant
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  2392. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> Nah, dumb :)
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  2394. # [18:53] <@ehsan> jez: look at the API! http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/nsITransferable.idl#170
  2395. # [18:53] <@ehsan> how would you determine the length from the second argument?
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  2397. # [18:53] <jld> ted: Turns out it's the same crash as the one I was looking at.
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  2399. # [18:54] <jld> ted: ...which maybe explains why I couldn't find the spot in *our* code that was passing the result of socket() to bind() without checking if it was -1.
  2400. # [18:54] <jez> ehsan: "either some variant of class in nsISupportsPrimitives.idl"
  2401. # [18:55] <Waldo> froydnj: through what misfortune do you happen to know a lot about gcc internals, out of curiosity?
  2402. # [18:55] <froydnj> Waldo: spent ~5 years hacking on GCC/GDB/glibc
  2403. # [18:55] <@ehsan> jez: not sure if I understand your argument
  2404. # [18:55] <jez> ehsan: each of those primitives has a type for "data"
  2405. # [18:55] <@ehsan> right
  2406. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> froydnj, I'm sorry
  2407. # [18:55] <jez> i don't think I see a type whose length can't be determined
  2408. # [18:56] <Waldo> ah, so that explains gdb ;-)
  2409. # [18:56] <@ehsan> jez: how about nsIFile?
  2410. # [18:56] <froydnj> Ms2ger: don't be! it was a lot of fun
  2411. # [18:56] <@ted> jld: oh ho
  2412. # [18:56] <Waldo> compiler hacking does seem pretty fun
  2413. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> froydnj, it wat
  2414. # [18:56] <Waldo> compiler hacking in C, um, no
  2415. # [18:56] <@ehsan> jez: or strings even!
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  2417. # [18:56] <Waldo> although, what's the worst that could go wrong writing critical software in C
  2418. # [18:56] <@ehsan> jez: this API doesn't necessarily consume all of the string contents
  2419. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> Waldo, ha
  2420. # [18:56] <jez> ehsan: isn't "wstring" a non-native type?
  2421. # [18:56] <froydnj> Waldo: missing braces, apparently
  2422. # [18:57] <jez> doesn't consume all the string contents? well that's just dumb
  2423. # [18:57] <Ms2ger> jez, wstring == char16_t*
  2424. # [18:57] <@ehsan> jez: wstring maps to a wide char string
  2425. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17c67e825939 - David Keeler - bug 990603 - mozilla::pkix: defer reporting end-entity cert errors until after path building r=briansmith
  2426. # [18:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f6c65c78cad - David Keeler - bug 990603 - test override for server certificate with basic constraints: CA=true r=briansmith
  2427. # [18:57] <@ehsan> jez: the thing is, this API doesn't even assume that the strings are null terminated
  2428. # [18:57] <jez> anyway, why is it assumed that utf-16 will consist of 16 bit chars?
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  2430. # [18:57] <jez> can that be safely assumed?
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  2432. # [18:57] <@ehsan> jez: you can call it "dumb" sure, but I'm just trying to explain why it works the way it does
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  2434. # [18:58] <@ehsan> no, it doesn't make that assumption at all
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  2436. # [18:58] <jez> the javascript code i quoted does
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  2439. # [18:58] <@ehsan> sure
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  2441. # [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7be150811dd8 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 919592 - Ionmonkey (ARM): Guard against branches being out of range and bail out of compilation if so. r=mjrosenb, a=sledru
  2442. # [18:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c8bcfc32f855 - Richard Marti - Bug 967674 - Port new Fxa sync options work to in-content prefs. r=markh, a=sledru
  2443. # [18:59] * @ehsan is not talking about that js code
  2444. # [18:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7ccc27d5c8f4 - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 980876 - Be smarter about sending gamepad updates from the background thread. r=smaug, a=sledru
  2445. # [18:59] <jez> is nsIClipboardHelper likely to ever get extended to allow copying of stuff other than strings? that seems to be better designed
  2446. # [18:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ee6aea5824b7 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 976536 - Don't relazify inlined functions. r=jandem, a=sledru
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  2448. # [18:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/30c45853f8cb - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 980876 - Null check GamepadService in case of events still in play during shutdown. r=smaug, a=sledru
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  2452. # [19:00] <@ehsan> jez: like what other types?
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  2454. # [19:00] <NeilAway> nemo: perhaps you should be using animated transforms these days?
  2455. # [19:00] <jez> ehsan: images, URLs, files
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  2457. # [19:00] <dholbert> NeilAway, heh
  2458. # [19:00] <nemo> NeilAway: that was the context ;)
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  2460. # [19:00] <NeilAway> nemo: oh sorry ted already suggested that
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  2462. # [19:00] <nemo> NeilAway: and was what triggered the nostalgy trip in the first place on #css
  2463. # [19:00] <@ehsan> jez: you would still need a number of bytes argument for images and files
  2464. # [19:01] <nemo> NeilAway: although, yeah, that particular <marquee> would still require a bit of JS
  2465. # [19:01] <NeilAway> nemo: should be able to use keyframes for the bouncing though
  2466. # [19:01] <nemo> might be interesting to try and reimplement it.
  2467. # [19:01] <@ehsan> jez: URLs you can probably just treat as strings, by passing their spec to nsIClipboardHelper
  2468. # [19:01] <nemo> NeilAway: hmmmmmmm
  2469. # [19:01] <nemo> NeilAway: not in a very flexible way
  2470. # [19:01] <jez> ehsan: fair enough, so we're down to how many bytes are in a string
  2471. # [19:01] <nemo> NeilAway: depending on box dimensions that could be a *huge* keyframe set
  2472. # [19:01] <jez> ehsan: what if i have a unicode string with some 32-bit characters in it?
  2473. # [19:01] <nemo> box dimensions and starting point
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  2475. # [19:02] <@ehsan> jez: no, let me explain this better
  2476. # [19:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd140d715b37 - Viktor Stanchev - Bug 962262 - Profiler - Use float instead of double to pack circular buffer. r=benwa
  2477. # [19:02] <@ehsan> jez: nsITransferable encapsulates a number of bytes + an associated mime type
  2478. # [19:02] <@ehsan> jez: it doesn't know or care what's inside those bytes
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  2480. # [19:02] <jez> yeah i understand
  2481. # [19:02] <@ehsan> ok
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  2483. # [19:02] <jez> that's why im questioning the assumption about unicode string length
  2484. # [19:03] <@ehsan> ok
  2485. # [19:03] <@ehsan> so
  2486. # [19:03] <nemo> jez: escape/unescape is a quick hack for byte counting
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  2490. # [19:03] <@ehsan> in js, strings are basically an array of 16-bit char points
  2491. # [19:03] <jez> so you can't encode 32-bit characters?
  2492. # [19:03] <nemo> var cnt = unescape(encodeURI(txt)).length;
  2493. # [19:03] <@ehsan> you encode them as a surrogate pair
  2494. # [19:03] <Waldo> there's String.fromCodePoint these days, I think
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  2496. # [19:04] <@ehsan> jez: (sorry, need to eat lunch now before I faint :)
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  2499. # [19:04] <Mook_as> jez: JS string lengths are not characters, they're code units or whatever those things are called
  2500. # [19:04] <nemo> jez: I use that to avoid text areas sending too large text server-side
  2501. # [19:04] <jez> i frigging hate utf-16
  2502. # [19:04] <nemo> jez: thanks to Oracle's 4000 varchar limit being actually 4000 bytes...
  2503. # [19:04] <jez> i wish it had never been invented
  2504. # [19:05] <nemo> you're not the only one
  2505. # [19:05] <nemo> just a UCS2 hack
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  2508. # [19:06] <jez> http://www.utf8everywhere.org/
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  2510. # [19:06] <nemo> amen
  2511. # [19:06] <nemo> http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/javascript-unicode
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  2513. # [19:06] <jcranmer> jez: non-BMP characters get spliced to surrogates
  2514. # [19:06] <jcranmer> the unfortunate consequenec of every system that thought 1`16-bit characters as the way to go
  2515. # [19:06] <jez> *In both UTF-8 and UTF-16 encodings, code points may take up to 4 bytes (contrary to what Joel says).*
  2516. # [19:06] <nemo> yes indeedy
  2517. # [19:06] <nemo> jez: he confuses UCS-2 and UTF-16
  2518. # [19:06] <nemo> common error
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  2520. # [19:07] <jez> nemo: i guess i'll read that
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  2523. # [19:08] <jez> or is that the page on which the confusion lies?
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  2525. # [19:08] <nemo> jez: not really. is a good read
  2526. # [19:08] <nemo> covers doing accurate counts
  2527. # [19:08] <jez> so who confuses UCS-2/UTF-16
  2528. # [19:08] <nemo> jez: joel
  2529. # [19:08] <jez> ah
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  2532. # [19:08] <nemo> jez: accurate counts in unicode is interesting, and he covers things like, oh, é
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  2535. # [19:09] <jmaher> how many joel's are there in here? I keep getting notified about my name
  2536. # [19:09] <nemo> well. he uses ñ
  2537. # [19:09] <jez> nemo: i guess understanding that would help with using nsITransferable from javascript
  2538. # [19:09] <jez> with unicode strings
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  2553. # [19:14] <jez> that guy really likes piles of poo
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  2557. # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: Try lgtm :)
  2558. # [19:16] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just thought the same
  2559. # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> :D
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  2563. # [19:17] <nemo> jez: mm. I probably would have used U+1F600 - U+1F640
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  2567. # [19:18] <avih> bsmedberg: i get 500 error on status board submission..
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  2570. # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> blech
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  2572. # [19:21] <@bsmedberg> avih: please retry now
  2573. # [19:21] <jez> why does Univode only go up to 10FFFF? wouldn't it be more straightforward to go up to FFFFFFFF?
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  2575. # [19:21] <avih> bsmedberg: working. thx.
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  2583. # [19:26] <nemo> jez: spec just covers what is needed so far
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  2587. # [19:26] <nemo> jez: I'm sure it might be extended in the future
  2588. # [19:26] <froydnj> because 2 million characters should be enough for anybody
  2589. # [19:26] <jez> nemo: ok i read that article. so........... "abc".length is giving me the length of the string in bits / 16?
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  2591. # [19:26] <jez> can that JS behaviour always be relied upon?
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  2593. # [19:27] <nemo> jez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8#Extending_from_31_bit_to_36_bit_range "The bytes 0xFE and 0xFF do not appear, so a valid UTF-8 stream never matches the UTF-16 byte order mark"
  2594. # [19:27] <nemo> jez: UTF-16 also stands in the way of that
  2595. # [19:27] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fun, panda robocop-2 has probably been permabusted on inbound for several hours
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  2597. # [19:27] <nemo> jez: for bytes, use the snippet I gave you...
  2598. # [19:27] <nemo> 13:03 < nemo> jez: escape/unescape is a quick hack for byte counting
  2599. # [19:27] <nemo> 13:04 < nemo> var cnt = unescape(encodeURI(txt)).length;
  2600. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: meh, only android
  2601. # [19:28] <nemo> jez: as noted, I needed it for oracle (along with newline cleanup) for accurate text area counting
  2602. # [19:28] <jez> nemo: so that behaviour can't be relied upon
  2603. # [19:28] <nemo> jez: what behaviour
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  2606. # [19:28] <jez> what .length will return for a string
  2607. # [19:28] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, better yet, maybe it came from fx-team on the merge :)
  2608. # [19:28] <nemo> wellll not sure what you're looking for
  2609. # [19:28] <nemo> but it ain't bits / 16
  2610. # [19:29] <jez> under what circumstance wouldn't it be?
  2611. # [19:29] <nemo> that cnt about is bits / 8 tho
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  2614. # [19:29] <jez> cnt about?
  2615. # [19:29] <nemo> jez: non-BMP
  2616. # [19:29] <nemo> hm
  2617. # [19:29] <nemo> lemme make a full snippet
  2618. # [19:29] <nemo> one moment
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  2620. # [19:29] <jez> what's a cnt about?
  2621. # [19:29] <philor> like maybe around https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&showall=1&rev=27a904e6348f
  2622. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: well, doesn't look like BenWa's going to respond to my ping
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  2626. # [19:31] <jez> nemo: also, MDN says unescape() is deprecated
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  2628. # [19:31] <jez> seems unwise to use it
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  2631. # [19:32] <nemo> jez: var txt = "😍‽";print(txt.length+" | "+unescape(encodeURI(txt)).length);
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  2633. # [19:32] <nemo> jez: deprecated, not dead :)
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  2635. # [19:32] <jez> yeah, but what do you do once it is dead?
  2636. # [19:32] <nemo> jez: eh. what I did before
  2637. # [19:32] <jez> which is?
  2638. # [19:32] <nemo> but I commented it out 'cause unescape is faster / tidier
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  2640. # [19:32] <nemo> jez: encode + split :-p
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  2642. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: indeed
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  2644. # [19:33] <jez> nemo: can you give that code instead?
  2645. # [19:33] <nemo> regex match would work too
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  2647. # [19:33] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so, I have a question about Fennec beta builds. I reckon you can help me understand what's up.
  2648. # [19:33] <nemo> jez: why? is slow and ugly
  2649. # [19:33] <nemo> jez: use unescape :D
  2650. # [19:33] <nemo> it ain't goin' anywhere any time soon
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  2652. # [19:33] <jez> nemo: because im assuming unescape will disappear one day and i dont want my code to stop working
  2653. # [19:33] <nemo> jez: by the time it does, hopefully something nicer will exist
  2654. # [19:34] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: could you look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967022#c15
  2655. # [19:34] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  2656. # [19:34] <nemo> jez: meh. just how much futureproofing are you doing here?
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  2658. # [19:34] <nemo> jez: well, how you do an unescape existence test at least, since split is sloooow
  2659. # [19:34] <jez> the les i have to worry about stuff breaking the better
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  2661. # [19:34] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: is this expected? It sure seems unexpected, based on the rev in about:buildconfig, but I don't know where the build logs are.
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  2663. # [19:34] <nemo> jez: I think you should default to the one-liner
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  2667. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: completely expected
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  2669. # [19:35] <nemo> jez: hm.... I think it was something like... var temp = encodeURI(txt);var cnt = temp.length-((temp.match(/%/g)||[]).length*2);
  2670. # [19:35] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's possible beta has legitimate Makefile dependency errors that made it ignore my patch...
  2671. # [19:35] <jez> nemo: could you put that code snippet on pastebin.com? my irc client isnt rendering it properly
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  2673. # [19:35] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, can you explain a little?
  2674. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: look at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Beta&rev=68838f520b63
  2675. # [19:35] <nemo> jez: hehehe.
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  2677. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: more to the point, https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/274a8f367ac7
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  2679. # [19:35] <nemo> jez: what client? irssi and chatzilla handle that just fine for me
  2680. # [19:35] <jez> mirc ;-)
  2681. # [19:35] <nemo> icky
  2682. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: parent rev is 004a7c15d761, which is the push prior to yours
  2683. # [19:35] <jez> i like its GUI
  2684. # [19:36] <nemo> meh
  2685. # [19:36] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ahahah... fucking hg and it's linearization of the graph.
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  2688. # [19:36] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: and TBPL doesn't make it clear that it's linearized.
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  2690. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: s/hg/pushlog
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  2692. # [19:36] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: completely expected indeed. Thanks.
  2693. # [19:36] <nemo> chatzilla is fine as gui, and can bookmark/click on irc:// links, and irssi + tmux + ssh ♥ ♥ ♥
  2694. # [19:36] <jez> whatever can u put it on pastebin
  2695. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: and I blame the way we do release branches, but me
  2696. # [19:36] <nemo> bahhh :-/
  2697. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> meh*
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  2699. # [19:37] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: in any case, nothing for me to get concerned about. Pity this didn't hit the beta :(
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  2701. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: land faster next time
  2702. # [19:37] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but nbd, not worth doing anything about.
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  2709. # [19:38] <nemo> jez: http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt
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  2711. # [19:38] <jez> hmm, even seamonkey still cant render all the characters
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  2716. # [19:39] <nemo> jez: tacked on the slow way to that temp.txt snippet
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  2718. # [19:39] <nemo> jez: guess you need better fonts then
  2719. # [19:39] <nemo> jez: renders fine for me :)
  2720. # [19:39] <jez> is there a way to configure what font SM uses for a text file?
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  2723. # [19:40] <nemo> jez: AFAIK, Seamonkey and Firefox will try to find a font w/ the matching codepoint
  2724. # [19:40] <nemo> jez: so is prob more just about bad system fonts
  2725. # [19:40] <nemo> jez: the default ubuntu ones seem fine here tho
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  2730. # [19:41] <nemo> jez: windows? "In Windows XP, no code point above U+FFFF is included in any font delivered with Windows for European languages."
  2731. # [19:41] <nemo> from UTF-16 on wikipedia
  2732. # [19:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7292ef816dc8 - Tim Taubert - Bug 989083 - Stop leaking aCallback and remove aScope from asyncGetBookmarkIds r=mak
  2733. # [19:41] <jez> hmm
  2734. # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: did I see a bunch of tegra rc2 orange last night too?
  2735. # [19:42] <jez> i'll try on my linux box
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  2740. # [19:42] <jez> yeah renders in linux
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  2745. # [19:43] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: none I remember other than the unable-to-kill that nobody wants to file
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  2748. # [19:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, that's th eone
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  2752. # [19:44] * philor looks very firmly away from https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37454275&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, too
  2753. # [19:44] <jchen> rbarnes: so for that fennec crash, the promise was being freed on a background thread. is that expected?
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  2755. # [19:44] <rbarnes> jchen: yeah, just got to that point with smaug over on #content. no, that is not expected
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  2759. # [19:45] <rbarnes> jchen: so i need to figure out why that is, and how to keep it around longer :)
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  2761. # [19:45] <rbarnes> jchen: and as expected, it's a problem for desktop as well, that's hidden by timing
  2762. # [19:45] <@smaug> rbarnes: not alive, but not addref/release on non-main-thread
  2763. # [19:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: hah
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  2768. # [19:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: I'm goin gto backout 27a904e6348f
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  2773. # [19:47] <BenWa> RyanVM|sheriffduty: backed out Bug 962262
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  2775. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> BenWa: thanks
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  2777. # [19:48] <BenWa> Yea, sorry
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  2779. # [19:48] <rbarnes> smaug,jchen: the more confusing part is that the Task is getting freed on a background thread. it should be back on the main thread before its destructor is called...
  2780. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ce79b93a998 - Benoit Girard - Backed Bug 962262 (cd140d715b37) due to bustage on CLOSED TREE.
  2781. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e2d52a541b50 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 27a904e6348f (bug 990259) for suspicion of causing Android 4.0 robocop-2 permafail.
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  2785. # [19:50] <bkelly> is content/base/src considered part of DOM for bugzilla component purposes?
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  2789. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> bkelly, yes
  2790. # [19:51] <bkelly> thanks
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  2792. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> Np
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  2796. # [19:53] <jez> nemo: so i get 3 | 7
  2797. # [19:53] <luke> bent: will shared workers will be available in all FF starting with 29?
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  2799. # [19:53] <nemo> jez: or 3 | 7 | 7 for 2nd line I guess :-p
  2800. # [19:53] <jez> i take it the interrobang is 3 bytes and the smiley face is 4 bytes?
  2801. # [19:53] <nemo> yes
  2802. # [19:54] <jez> why is it calling that 3 characters and not 2?
  2803. # [19:54] <nemo> well. in utf-8
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  2811. # [19:54] <bent> luke, according to bugzilla (bug 924089) yes
  2812. # [19:54] <luke> bent: sweet, thanks
  2813. # [19:54] <nemo> jez: UTF-16 :-/
  2814. # [19:54] <nemo> jez: pretty sure that's covered on that link I posted
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  2816. # [19:55] <jez> http://robert.ocallahan.org/2008/01/string-theory_08.html
  2817. # [19:55] <jez> "UTF-16 is the devil's work." lol
  2818. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> It is
  2819. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> And UCS-2 is worse
  2820. # [19:55] <nemo> Ms2ger: hmmmm
  2821. # [19:56] <nemo> Ms2ger: I'd call UTF-16 worse
  2822. # [19:56] <nemo> UCS-2 at least is more straightforward in what it can and can't do
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  2824. # [19:56] <jez> why not make ECMAscript 6 use UTF8 internally?
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  2829. # [19:57] <froydnj> would break a lot of things
  2830. # [19:57] <froydnj> would be a ton of work
  2831. # [19:57] <davidb> man
  2832. # [19:57] <davidb> strings
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  2834. # [19:57] <nemo> problem isn't unique to JS FWIW
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  2836. # [19:58] <froydnj> davidb: how do they work?
  2837. # [19:58] <Mossop> Last I heard the JS team wanted to switch spidermonkey to use ASCII internally where possible
  2838. # [19:58] <davidb> froydnj: they haunt me
  2839. # [19:58] <nemo> jez: https://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/source/browse/hedgewars/uUtils.pas#406
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  2844. # [19:59] <jez> Pascal? :-D
  2845. # [19:59] <nemo> what... :-p
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  2851. # [20:00] <jcranmer> Mossop: I think spidermonkey is planning on exploring faking UTF-16 via UTF-8
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  2854. # [20:01] <Ms2ger> There's definitely interest in that direction
  2855. # [20:01] <Ms2ger> Not least from the Servo side
  2856. # [20:01] <jcranmer> "eventually"
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  2861. # [20:01] <jcranmer> I know we've done dynamic analysis in the past which has basically said that UTF-8-everywhere is much less memory usage
  2862. # [20:02] <nemo> jcranmer: yep!
  2863. # [20:02] <nemo> jcranmer: I do remember reading that. there was a nice moznet blog about it
  2864. # [20:02] <nemo> not that it is really a surprise
  2865. # [20:02] <jez> this unicode string stuff isn't rocket science... but it's not far off
  2866. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> jez, indeed, rocket science is easier ;)
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  2870. # [20:03] <nemo> jcranmer: https://blog.mozilla.org/dmandelin/2008/02/14/wtf-16/ I think...
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  2878. # [20:05] <nemo> jcranmer: I wonder if that 1-2% is now more like 3-4% after memshrink
  2879. # [20:05] <jez> "The encodeURI() method encodes a Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) by replacing each instance of certain characters by one, two, three, or four escape sequences representing the UTF-8 encoding of the character (will only be four escape sequences for characters composed of two "surrogate" characters)."
  2880. # [20:05] <nemo> jez: riiiight?
  2881. # [20:05] <jez> _only_ be four escape sequences?
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  2883. # [20:05] <jez> is that a small number?
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  2885. # [20:05] <nemo> jez: well. for surrogates?
  2886. # [20:05] <jez> yeah
  2887. # [20:05] <nemo> might have expected 3+3
  2888. # [20:06] <jcranmer> that's known as CESU-8
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  2890. # [20:06] <jcranmer> and it's a horrible piece of crap that needs to be murdered with a bloody stake
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  2892. # [20:06] <jez> nemo: why 3+3?
  2893. # [20:06] <jcranmer> jez: encoding surrogates independently
  2894. # [20:06] <nemo> mhm
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  2896. # [20:07] <jez> but in fact, those surrogates are taking up 4 bytes?
  2897. # [20:07] <jez> so 4 escape sequences is appropriate
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  2899. # [20:07] <jcranmer> well, the character is in the range U+10000-U+10FFFF
  2900. # [20:07] <jcranmer> which requires 4 bytes in UTF-8 to encode
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  2902. # [20:07] <jcranmer> the surrogates are in the U+Dxxx-ish range, which requires 3 bytes each to encode
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  2906. # [20:08] <nemo> jez: anyway, I do hope you consider if (typeof "unescape") { /* count using unescape */ } since for large text it really was a *lot* faster :)
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  2908. # [20:09] <jez> so if there is a surrogate, will nemo's second method work?
  2909. # [20:09] <nemo> jez: and I was doing it onkeypress to update text area character limit so it was actually noticeable
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  2911. # [20:09] <nemo> what are you counting anyway? I thought it was bytes consumed for a utf-8 string
  2912. # [20:09] <jez> nemo's second method will encode it to 4 sequences when it wants to be 6?
  2913. # [20:09] <nemo> that's what I was using it for, where database was utf-8 but stupidly requires byte count...
  2914. # [20:09] <jez> well all im interested in is bytes to pass to nsITransferable
  2915. # [20:09] <nemo> ok. that should be fine then
  2916. # [20:09] <jez> which is going to be identical to bytes actually used in the javascript string
  2917. # [20:10] <nemo> hm
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  2919. # [20:10] <nemo> jez: any reason you are using strings instead of, oh, blobs?
  2920. # [20:10] <nemo> arrays that is?
  2921. # [20:10] <jcranmer> TextEncoder?
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  2923. # [20:10] <jcranmer> that supports going from strings to UTF-8
  2924. # [20:10] <jez> nemo: the data im getting from the javascript object is (unsurprisingly) a javascript string
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  2926. # [20:10] <nemo> jez: so. convert it to an array...
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  2928. # [20:11] <jez> hmm.
  2929. # [20:11] <nemo> eh. dunno. just seems a bit tidier *shrug*
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  2931. # [20:11] <nemo> jez: btw, checkout this silliness :D http://kyber.neocities.org/
  2932. # [20:11] <jcranmer> new TextEncoder("UTF-8").encode("けつぁるこあとる")
  2933. # [20:11] <nemo> jez: it requires a bit more memory than it should since I used an RGBA PNG to save a bit of space (yes, it actually compressed better)
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  2935. # [20:12] <nemo> but if your system has the mem, it discards it pretty quickly afterwards
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  2938. # [20:12] <jez> i guess i need to go back a step and decide what i want to pass to my "copyToClipboard" method.
  2939. # [20:13] <jez> right now it's a javascript var which is expected to be a string
  2940. # [20:13] <jez> you're saying it might make more sense to require that it be an Array?
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  2942. # [20:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d54f7e4f84c1 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 991705 - Default to puzzle icon if an add-on doesn't have an icon. r=bnicholson
  2943. # [20:14] <nemo> jez: I dunno, I was thinking typed array, but honestly don't know too much about your prob, sorry.
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  2945. # [20:14] <nemo> jez: but since that silly lil' site takes a blob of data and turns it into utf-8, seemed like your problem in reverse
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  2948. # [20:14] <nemo> so I was thinking. huh. why not just turn into an ArrayBuffer
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  2952. # [20:15] <jez> actually
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  2954. # [20:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8125c7b5b8d7 - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 993101 - Add main-process debug button. r=paul
  2955. # [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0336c7f72b03 - Patrick Brosset - Bug 988313 - Rename devtools/styleinspector tests for consistency reasons. r=miker
  2956. # [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/be0436eaf21d - Patrick Brosset - Bug 988313 - Rewrite all devtools/styleinspector tests to be shorter, less prone to failures and more consistent. r=miker
  2957. # [20:16] <jez> when you say to an nsITransferable, addDataFlavor("text/unicode");
  2958. # [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/aec22b0da647 - Patrick Brosset - Bug 988313 - Split some of the longer devtools/styleinspector tests. r=miker
  2959. # [20:16] <jez> what does it actually want
  2960. # [20:16] <jez> UTF8? UTF16?
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  2962. # [20:16] <@smaug> anyone using an external laptop for building?
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  2964. # [20:17] <@smaug> er
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  2966. # [20:17] <@smaug> external harddrive :)
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  2979. # [20:22] <jez> anyone know?
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  2996. # [20:28] <firebot> Check-in:
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  2998. # [20:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7be71c699b85 - Kearwood (Kip) Gilbert - Bug 984226 - Add parameter to OverflowChangedTracker::AddFrame to distingush between frames that need nsIFrame::UpdateOverflow called and frames that only have
  2999. # [20:28] <firebot> a transform that has changed. r=dbaron
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  3001. # [20:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27578e0cf97f - Martin Thomson - [PATCH] Bug 959870 - Error reporting improvements to WebRTC IdP r=jib
  3002. # [20:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e30768d372c - Michael Shuen - Bug 984608 - SECKEY_EncodeDERSubjectPublicKeyInfo and PK11_DEREncodePublicKey take non-const SECKEYPublicKey*. r=briansmith
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  3018. # [20:34] <nemo> jez: why not specify the encoding and remove all doubt?
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  3021. # [20:35] <jez> nemo: how>?
  3022. # [20:35] <nemo> well. that's a mime type right?
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  3024. # [20:35] <jez> presumably
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  3026. # [20:36] <nemo> hmmm
  3027. # [20:36] <nemo> jez: ok I was assuming you could just do text/plain;charset=utf-8 but I just realised I have no idea what I'm talking about soooo
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  3039. # [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66b7259580f4 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 993569 - Update Mozilla 31 to use NSS 3.16.1. (beta1) r=kaie
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  3046. # [20:42] <jmaher> gavin: the leak on devtools-2, I want to make sure the 3rd chunk runs fine before filing bugs; we will have it today though as a bug
  3047. # [20:42] <@gavin> jmaher: cool, ping me when you do and I can start looking into it
  3048. # [20:42] <jmaher> gavin: this is the test- on all platforms: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37455721&tree=Cedar
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  3050. # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/12e30a3a76b1 - Michael Comella - Bug 981872 - Replace sha-1 MessageDigest with NativeCrypto. r=nalexander
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  3052. # [20:45] <NeilAway> jez: I can't find the code for it but I think it expects JavaScript strings
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  3070. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: we may already have a speculative fix incoming on it :D
  3071. # [20:50] <@gavin> oh?
  3072. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: I'm actually pretty happy about chunk-by-dir results
  3073. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bcX didn't have any issues
  3074. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so that's getting more robust anyway
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  3076. # [20:51] <@gavin> cool
  3077. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and looking at the numbers, we obviously moved a lot of tsets around
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  3079. # [20:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: I suspect that before we're done, browser_whitelist7.js may end up being the only test disabling
  3080. # [20:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I did mention to esawin that he can get a loaner slave if he's having trouble reproducing
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  3092. # [20:57] <jez> NeilAway: so in code like this: http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt
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  3094. # [20:58] <jez> NeilAway: what is it going to expect for the "length" argument, if the "txt" variable is passed in as the second argument?
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  3096. # [21:00] <stefanh> milan: re bug 993517 - that only happens when you have your system prefs set to only show scrollbars when starting to scroll, right?
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  3098. # [21:00] <milan> stefanh: i imagine so - i haven't touched the default, so whatever that is
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  3103. # [21:03] <paolo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I had started https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8f34d8540e29 before the fix for the mochitest-bc leak and the failing test were created
  3104. # [21:04] <paolo> from result inspection, do you think that build creates enough confidence to land bug 887923 in fx-team now?
  3105. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> paolo: let's wait until the rewrite sticks?
  3106. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> less complicated in the event of backing out :)
  3107. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but yeah, agreed that Try looks ok
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  3109. # [21:05] <paolo> thanks for looking into the results. so, can I just set checkin-needed on the bug?
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  3111. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8b8c88384a4 - Benoit Girard - Bug 973770 - Typo fix. r=botond DONTBUILD for NPOTB
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  3122. # [21:08] <stefanh> milan: ah, ok
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  3131. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> paolo: sure thing
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  3133. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> paolo: do note that the request is contingent on bug 988313 sticking, though
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  3136. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> in case I'm not the one who gets to it first
  3137. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/309c62fdf8ac - Wes Johnston - Bug 985400 - Post menu changes to UIThread to avoid issues with animatinos. r=lucasr
  3138. # [21:14] <jld> ted: I can go to (e.g.) https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/query/?product=B2G&query_search=signature&reason=SIGSYS and see lots of crash signatures... but no crashes when I click on them. More missing permissions, or something weird with B2G?
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  3141. # [21:15] <@ted> jld: shouldn't be permissions, you'd have to ask #breakpad though
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  3145. # [21:16] <@ted> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/search/?reason=%3DSIGSYS&_facets=signature&_columns=date&_columns=signature&_columns=product&_columns=version&_columns=build_id&_columns=platform
  3146. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mak: thanks for the reply :)
  3147. # [21:16] <@ted> jld: supersearch works though
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  3149. # [21:16] <jld> ted: Thanks!
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  3156. # [21:20] <paolo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: done, thanks!
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  3161. # [21:21] <luke> bent: will all DOM APIs exposed to normal workers show up in SharedWorkers also?
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  3178. # [21:28] <tbsaunde> it would be really nice if zimbra had a sent folder that worked over imap :/
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  3180. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f968673b44b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 27578e0cf97f (bug 959870) for webrtc test bustage.
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  3182. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44732d1a525a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 7be71c699b85 (bug 984226) for crashtest asserts.
  3183. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> "Unless I'm overruled, I'm going to pick my side"
  3184. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> I should try that some time
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  3193. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: ping
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  3195. # [21:37] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yup?
  3196. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: look familiar? :( https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37460344&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
  3197. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> these showed up on mconley's push today
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  3199. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora&rev=c1fe4d4bfcec
  3200. # [21:37] <ttaubert> magic
  3201. # [21:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's in sessionstore, but it's tabview stuff
  3202. # [21:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm wondering if it's the same root cause as bug 989083
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  3205. # [21:38] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's.. quite permanent
  3206. # [21:38] <mconley> fuuuuuu
  3207. # [21:39] <mconley> wait wait wait
  3208. # [21:39] <mconley> wasn't this the _exact_ same leak we saw for that other thing I landed last week?
  3209. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: I'm afraid you're getting fx-teamed :(
  3210. # [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fc36dfbc7a4e - Mike de Boer - Bug 993265: preserve bookmark folder icons on the Bookmarks toolbar. r=mak
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  3212. # [21:40] <ttaubert> I wonder if https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/c1fe4d4bfcec causes that somehow
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  3214. # [21:40] <mconley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: not sure what that means, but it doesn't sound pleasant
  3215. # [21:40] <ttaubert> the leak we were seeing certainly doesn't make sense, looks like some xpcom problem rather than an actual leak
  3216. # [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: you know, the "add a random test that changes the test chunking and get rewarded with leaks"
  3217. # [21:40] <KWierso> ttaubert: 45c0ceb1180e added a new test file
  3218. # [21:41] <mconley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what is the correct course of action on my part when it comes to being "fx-teamed"?
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  3220. # [21:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: well, we can either disable our way to victory or backout the patch that added the new test
  3221. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I pinged ttaubert because I half-wonder if the patch he landed on fx-team today might fix it
  3222. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> seems a similar issue?
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  3225. # [21:42] <mconley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so, I'm curious - does this orange suggest that a) when you re-arrange tests into chunks, sads happen, b) my test leaks somehow or c) my patch introduces a leak somehow, d) none of the above?
  3226. # [21:42] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah it seems very similar
  3227. # [21:43] <mconley> or e) some or all of the above?
  3228. # [21:43] <ttaubert> I'll pick (e)
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  3230. # [21:43] <ttaubert> actually (a)
  3231. # [21:43] <ttaubert> :)
  3232. # [21:43] <mconley> OK
  3233. # [21:43] <mconley> so
  3234. # [21:44] <KWierso> mconley: changing which chunk tests run in can also change what cleanup steps are run in each chunk
  3235. # [21:44] <mconley> the patch I landed also landed on Beta - it is an Australis P3*, and I'd rather not back it out...
  3236. # [21:44] <KWierso> if one tabview test depends on another test cleaning things up for it, pushing that other test somewhere else makes that cleanup not happen
  3237. # [21:45] <bent> luke, the majority, we hope. nothing to do with Node for example
  3238. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: how risky is your fx-team patch?
  3239. # [21:45] <mconley> I'll note that the same patch landed on Mozilla-Beta, and is not at this point, showing leaks. That doesn't prove anything really, but it is interesting.
  3240. # [21:45] <luke> bent: but, e.g., a single SharedWorker could be issue draw calls to multiple windows' WebGL contexts?
  3241. # [21:46] <bent> luke, yes, i think so
  3242. # [21:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: beta doesn't run the exact same of tests
  3243. # [21:46] <luke> bent: cool
  3244. # [21:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: so the chunks wouldn't be the same to start
  3245. # [21:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: frustrating, eh? :(
  3246. # [21:46] <mconley> makes sense
  3247. # [21:46] <mconley> you said it
  3248. # [21:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: on the bright side, things are getting better - see Cedar https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Cedar&jobname=mochitest.*chrome
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  3250. # [21:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> our hope is to get that work on Aurora too
  3251. # [21:47] <mconley> alrighty
  3252. # [21:47] <mconley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so... do I understand correctly that ttaubert is gonna try a thing?
  3253. # [21:47] <mconley> or should I disable my test?
  3254. # [21:47] <mconley> or should I just back the whole thing out and cry in a corner?
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  3256. # [21:47] <ttaubert> I request approval
  3257. # [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: mconley: but I think right now, my preference would be to get ttaubert's patch on aurora if the risk is low
  3258. # [21:47] <ttaubert> +ed
  3259. # [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> asap
  3260. # [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: ping
  3261. # [21:47] <mconley> k
  3262. # [21:47] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yp
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  3264. # [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: if that doesn't work, disable the test
  3265. # [21:47] <mconley> sounds good
  3266. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: urgent approval request on bug 989083 :)
  3267. # [21:48] <lsblakk> certainly
  3268. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we think it may fix a perma-leak introduced earlier today
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  3270. # [21:48] <ttaubert> the leak signature looks different but having the patch on Aurora doesn't hurt anyway
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  3272. # [21:49] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's only on fx-team
  3273. # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: yeah, we want to get this work backported to 30 only
  3274. # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: it's had a green try run and is very likely to stick at this point
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  3280. # [21:51] <lsblakk> sure, but what's the rush? we're only "possibly" seeing this on Aurora
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  3283. # [21:52] <lsblakk> it's low risk, can get approved once it's safely on trunk
  3284. # [21:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7b7dbe3c9d3 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 983619 - Add Window.getInterface/QueryInterface to WebIDL, followup to deal with review comment. r=bz.
  3285. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7513571f8c0e - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 993047 - Fix some style nits from f6b0e518f6d2.
  3286. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/874d97918b82 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 990158 - Remove line from bad merge in f1e4f0f82a9a.
  3287. # [21:52] <ttaubert> lsblakk: we have lots of oranges on Aurora currently, we're just not sure if that patch will fix those leaks :/
  3288. # [21:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: honestly, we're shooting in teh dark no matter what we do here
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  3290. # [21:52] <lsblakk> you know that only makes me want to not rush on approvals?
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  3292. # [21:52] <lsblakk> if the same oranges are also on m-c, let's get it there
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  3294. # [21:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: I'm saying that it's already at a mergeable point on fx-team
  3295. # [21:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> the only reason it hasn't merged is because I'm waiting on green above it
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  3297. # [21:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> more specifically, I want to merge bug 988313 around with it before I bother
  3298. # [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: i need the android backout above that push at a minimum (since that was bustage that got merged around already), but that's unrelated to this patch
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  3315. # [21:59] <lsblakk> sorry if i'm seeming dense here, but you don't need approval to merge fx-team to central so it's still not clear what the rush is to aurora
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  3317. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: I'm saying that not being on m-c is semantics
  3318. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's not going to bounce
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  3320. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I just can't merge it over yet because I need another push above it to go green first
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  3323. # [21:59] <lsblakk> ok
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  3328. # [22:01] <yuvi> hello
  3329. # [22:02] <yuvi> I'm new here. I want to fix a bug that's been troubling me a lot, and is not being handled by anyone
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  3331. # [22:02] <yuvi> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77790
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  3336. # [22:02] <yuvi> Matthew N. suggested I go here and ask around for guidance and help
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  3341. # [22:03] <@smaug> dbaron: ^
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  3350. # [22:05] <identify> libdbus-glib-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  3351. # [22:05] <@dbaron> yuvi, I'll add a comment to the bug later today
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  3353. # [22:05] <@dbaron> yuvi, I have to run right now
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  3356. # [22:06] <yuvi> Thanks!
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  3384. # [22:17] <AutomatedTester> past: hey, just noticed that your gmail is receiving w3c bugs for browser tools component
  3385. # [22:17] <AutomatedTester> past: on the w3c bugzilla instance
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  3387. # [22:17] <MattN> yuvi: glad you found the channel :)
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  3390. # [22:17] <yuvi> Hey Matt! Thanks :-)
  3391. # [22:18] <past> AutomatedTester: I know! :-/
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  3393. # [22:18] <AutomatedTester> past: stop following the component?
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  3399. # [22:19] <past> AutomatedTester: aaaaarghhhhh!
  3400. # [22:20] <AutomatedTester> past: it was only a suggestion... just trying to help
  3401. # [22:20] <past> AutomatedTester: thank you so much
  3402. # [22:20] <past> I had completely forgotten about that
  3403. # [22:21] <past> I just assumed that it was the mailing list subscription that got me the email
  3404. # [22:21] <AutomatedTester> I updated a bug and saw the list of emails it sent to
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  3406. # [22:21] <nalexander> lsblakk: I know I've asked this before, but how do I figure out when the next few beta builds will be released?
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  3408. # [22:22] <past> AutomatedTester: I'll let plh know that he can stop looking now
  3409. # [22:22] <AutomatedTester> past: that poor man...
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  3412. # [22:23] <nalexander> lsblakk: I'm trying to understand when a Fennec change uplifted to beta recently will have hit enough of our devices to uplift a dependent change.
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  3416. # [22:27] <nalexander> lsblakk: aha, I've found https://mail.mozilla.com/home/publiccalendar@mozilla.com/Releases%20Scheduling.html
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  3422. # [22:29] <lsblakk> nalexander: yes, that's the best way :)
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  3424. # [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5af035625dc0 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 993195 - Add only one observer for messages with callbacks. r=wesj
  3425. # [22:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/655f3cf12f45 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 993195 - Add EventCallback parameter to handleMessage. r=jchen
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  3427. # [22:31] <nalexander> lsblakk: can you verify I'm reading this correctly? There should be a mobile beta going out today, more or less. And then again next Tuesday. And then we're close to code frozen.
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  3451. # [22:43] <jez> nemo: u there?
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  3456. # [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/475160609573 - Jason Orendorff - Follow-up to bug 990787 - Fix GC hazards introduced by part 1 and part 4, caught by static analysis. Pushing to a CLOSED TREE. r=sfink.
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  3462. # [22:46] <tbsaunde> froydnj: ping
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  3464. # [22:48] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, is there something wrong with "B2G bumper bot"?
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  3474. # [22:53] <froydnj> tbsaunde: pong
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  3478. # [22:54] <tbsaunde> froydnj: happen to know if I can make objcopy or some other tool just copy a single function?
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  3481. # [22:55] <tbsaunde> I have two versions of the same object file one bad and one good
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  3485. # [22:56] <froydnj> tbsaunde: if you used -ffunction-sections, you might be able to copy a single section?
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  3487. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: yes
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  3489. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: see #releng
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  3491. # [22:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6aef8ef7d775 - Jared Wein - Bug 971630 - Australis: Far right/left selected overflow tabs look bad on session restore. r=mconley
  3492. # [22:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1af4ac38f025 - Jared Wein - Bug 993421 - Only set the position:relative on the PanelUI-footer-inner when a subview is showing. r=Gijs
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  3495. # [22:59] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, of course ;)
  3496. # [22:59] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, not sure what's in scrollback there since I just joined, but if it's expected to be a while, seems like it might be worth manually bumping revs
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  3499. # [22:59] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I guess you don't have that case
  3500. # [22:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: please coordinate with aki/catlee if you do that
  3501. # [22:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i need to go now
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  3504. # [22:59] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, I need to go now too
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  3506. # [23:00] <catlee> dbaron, RyanVM|afk: it's being worked out
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  3508. # [23:00] <catlee> worked on
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  3511. # [23:01] <RyanVM|afk> dbaron: btw, if Kip doesn't have level 1, you shoudl work with him to get it
  3512. # [23:01] <RyanVM|afk> he needs Try access ;)
  3513. # [23:02] <dholbert> RyanVM|afk, (kip does have try level 1 / try access)
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  3516. # [23:02] <RyanVM|afk> yeah, checkin-needed
  3517. # [23:02] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I think we use -ffunction-sections even on debug builds, anyway about to find out
  3518. # [23:02] <dholbert> RyanVM|afk, (he must've just forgotten to push to try in this case, or something)
  3519. # [23:03] <RyanVM|afk> I'm taking off anyway
  3520. # [23:03] <RyanVM|afk> to anyone who wants inbound opened, feel free if tip is green and all teh bustage pileup is starred
  3521. # [23:03] <RyanVM|afk> otehrwise, I'll be back in an hourish
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  3523. # [23:05] <kip> RyanVMlafk, dholbert: Have try access, and have been able to push to try
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  3529. # [23:07] * kip is investigating the reftest and crashtest failures from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44732d1a525a
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  3532. # [23:08] <dholbert> kip, (looks like they showed up in your last try run, too)
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  3535. # [23:10] <NeilAway> jez: as I said, I can't find the code for it, so txt.length * 2 is my best guess
  3536. # [23:10] <dholbert> kip, (so, probably possible to do further diagnosis / debugging on Try and/or locally if necessary)
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  3539. # [23:10] <kip> dholbert: Will re-run through try again after updating patch
  3540. # [23:10] <dholbert> thanks!
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  3543. # [23:11] <kip> dholbert: FYI - the table reftests were also failing on FX 29.0, but passing on nightly. My bad for disregarding them too soon
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  3551. # [23:13] <dholbert> kip, gotcha. cool, no worries
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  3562. # [23:15] <marco> is it possible to disable a test only on OS X 10.6 and not on other OS X versions?
  3563. # [23:15] <bz> Are we going to wait for Hf to finish before reopening?
  3564. # [23:15] <dholbert> marco, a reftest?
  3565. # [23:15] <marco> a mochitest
  3566. # [23:15] <hub> marco: yes. I forgot how though
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  3568. # [23:17] <jgraham> ~.
  3569. # [23:17] <marco> hub: thanks
  3570. # [23:18] <dholbert> marco, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=skip.*mac&regexp=1&find=mochitest.ini has some examples of skipping on mac entirely
  3571. # [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f4c94cfb71b3 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  3575. # [23:18] <marco> dholbert: yeah, I have some tests failing on Mac and I have a fix that makes them fail only on 10.6
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  3579. # [23:18] <marco> so I want to run the tests at least on 10.8 to avoid regressions
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  3586. # [23:19] <botond> What is the equivalent code for something like "Cc['@mozilla.org/inspector/dom-utils;1'].getService(Ci.inIDOMUtils);" in C++?
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  3588. # [23:20] <jorendorff> RyanVM|afk: Regarding https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37462480&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error0 ...
  3589. # [23:20] <jorendorff> RyanVM|afk: That test is supposed to print that output ("Script runs for too long, terminating."); the bug is that the exit code is 0 rather than 6.
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  3591. # [23:20] <froydnj> botond: nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMUtils> domutils = do_GetService("@mozilla.org/inspector/dom-utils;1"]; or somesuch
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  3594. # [23:20] <nemo> jez: kinda...
  3595. # [23:20] <jorendorff> RyanVM|afk: Is this new with my checkin? because that would be weird
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  3598. # [23:21] <dholbert> marco, looks like we use "oscpu" in reftest manifests to test that
  3599. # [23:21] <dholbert> marco, *to test OS versions
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  3602. # [23:22] <jez> nemo: so for your example strings, are you saying that they actually take up 7 bytes in Javascript?
  3603. # [23:22] <dholbert> marco, I'm not sure, but I don't think that's visible to mochitest.ini (since it's a JS property on the navigator object)
  3604. # [23:22] <jez> because the usual method of multiplying by two would only give 6
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  3607. # [23:22] <dholbert> marco, but you could make the test trivially pass (early) on OS X 10.6, based on a test on navigator.oscpu inside of the test
  3608. # [23:23] <marco> dholbert: I'll probably enable the test on all Mac versions and do a todo("Fails on OS X 10.6")
  3609. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/76a357ab1c94 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  3611. # [23:23] <bz> jez: what are you trying to measure?
  3612. # [23:23] <marco> yes ;)
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  3615. # [23:23] <dholbert> marco, sounds good, yeah
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  3619. # [23:24] <jez> bz: the appropriate integer to pass into nsITransferable's setTransferData() :-)
  3620. # [23:24] <bz> mmm
  3621. # [23:24] <bz> What is it supposed to represent?
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  3623. # [23:24] <Gijs> ehsan: so for bug 979653, I am really not sure what the issue is with the location bar...
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  3627. # [23:24] <Gijs> ehsan: AFAICT there isn't any special code, we just invoke the same editor command as we do elsewhere :\
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  3629. # [23:25] <bz> Man, this is a sucky API
  3630. # [23:25] <jez> bz: any data type, but in this case, "text/unicode", which isn't completely clear
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  3632. # [23:26] <bz> This is just so so broken
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  3636. # [23:26] <bz> Do you have any idea what the length will be used for?
  3637. # [23:26] <jez> passed to the system clipboard i guess
  3638. # [23:26] <bz> Presumably the caller of getAnyTransferData or getTransferData uses it?
  3639. # [23:27] <jez> well it's the system clipboard, it's shared between applications
  3640. # [23:27] <bz> I mean in our code
  3641. # [23:27] <jez> isn't that going to be OS-dependent?
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  3643. # [23:28] <bz> I have no idea
  3644. # [23:28] <bz> I mean, the transferable itself does not talk to the clipboard
  3645. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in:
  3646. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/af98015396d4 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 993084 attempt - make CommonUtils and Metrics imports lazy, since they aren't going to be needed anywhere near startup or when experiments is disabled, r=gps
  3647. # [23:28] <bz> so someone else has to ask it for something, right?
  3648. # [23:28] <jez> oh yeah
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  3650. # [23:28] <jez> Components.classes["@mozilla.org/widget/clipboard;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIClipboard);
  3651. # [23:29] <jez> clip.setData(trans, ...
  3652. # [23:29] <bz> ok
  3653. # [23:29] <bz> A quick skim shows callers mostly ignore that length
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  3655. # [23:30] <bz> This api sucks
  3656. # [23:30] <jez> and it's the only way to set any non-string data on the clipboard
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  3670. # [23:35] <nemo> jez: yes
  3671. # [23:35] <nemo> er
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  3673. # [23:35] <nemo> hm...
  3674. # [23:35] <nemo> jez: the UTF-8 representation is 7 bytes
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  3676. # [23:36] <nemo> jez: but the .length is the internal space in JS
  3677. # [23:36] <nemo> wait. no...
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  3679. # [23:36] <nemo> the .length isn't either :D
  3680. # [23:36] <nemo> jez: wellllll. gosh. now I'm not sure. that other blog entry I linked to noted firefox uses ascii for strings of pure 7bit
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  3682. # [23:36] <nemo> so. I guess. "it depends" ?
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  3689. # [23:37] <jez> now i see why they just advise you to multiply by two
  3690. # [23:37] <nemo> jez: JS is technically UTF-16 so it should be 2 bytes for the interrobang and 4 bytes for the smiley in surrogate pairs
  3691. # [23:37] <nemo> jez: what are you doing anyway? :D
  3692. # [23:38] <nemo> so I guess 6 in this case
  3693. # [23:38] <jez> i'm just a perfectionist. i wanna get that argument right, but i doubt i can
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  3696. # [23:38] <nemo> jez: what argument?
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  3699. # [23:38] <nemo> jez: but if you're passing a UTF-8 string, then 7 should be correct...
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  3702. # [23:39] <jez> nemo: uint32_t aDataLen
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  3704. # [23:39] <nemo> jez: if you were using an arraybuffer, surely there'd be no question as to space used
  3705. # [23:39] <nemo> jez: ah. is some interface I'm unfamiliar w/ I 'spose
  3706. # [23:39] <nemo> where's the api doc?
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  3708. # [23:39] <jez> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/nsITransferable.idl
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  3710. # [23:40] <nemo> which method?
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  3713. # [23:41] <nemo> jez: apologies if I seem incoherent. my head feels stuffed w/ cotton. been up since 3am
  3714. # [23:41] <nemo> new kid
  3715. # [23:41] <jez> setTransferData
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  3718. # [23:42] <Gijs> ehsan: think I figured it out, n-i on the bug. :)
  3719. # [23:42] <nemo> jez: hm. ok. so... you have a binary file that is represented as a JS string. wouldn't the length be the actual byte length of the binary data?
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  3724. # [23:43] <nemo> jez: like. once upon a time, binary data was fetched using: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/XMLHttpRequest/Sending_and_Receiving_Binary_Data#Receiving_binary_data_in_older_browsers
  3725. # [23:43] <nemo> jez: you'd end up w/ a JS string of the bytes.
  3726. # [23:44] <jez> binary file?
  3727. # [23:44] <jez> no, i have a js string
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  3730. # [23:44] <nemo> ok. I thought this was binary data for some reason...
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  3733. # [23:45] <nemo> jez: huh. dunno seems like that would be .length then
  3734. # [23:45] * nemo shrugs
  3735. # [23:45] <nemo> I'
  3736. # [23:45] <nemo> m feeling too stupid right now, and not something I'm familiar w/. ask someone knowledgeable
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  3739. # [23:46] <jez> .length isn't about giving the size in bytes though
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  3741. # [23:46] <bz> hf is green
  3742. # [23:46] <bz> can we reopen?
  3743. # [23:46] <jez> "The length property represents the length of a string."
  3744. # [23:47] <jez> "This property returns the number of code units in the string. UTF-16, the string format used by JavaScript, uses a single 16-bit code unit to represent the most common characters, but needs to use two code units for less commonly-used characters, so it's possible for the value returned by length to not match the actual number of characters in the string."
  3745. # [23:47] <jez> which is great. basically, "byte length is an implementation detail hidden to you, but pass it to us in this API call somehow"
  3746. # [23:47] <bz> jez: the concept "length of a string" for things humans think of as "string" is "complicated"
  3747. # [23:47] * nsm|away is now known as nsm
  3748. # [23:47] <jez> bz: not from the C++ perspective. it uses x bytes for the data
  3749. # [23:48] <bz> C++ strings are not what humans think of as a "string"
  3750. # [23:48] <jez> the trouble is the fact that JS simplifies things and there's no C++ wrapper for it
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  3752. # [23:48] <bz> I don't see how JS simplifies anything here
  3753. # [23:48] <bz> A JS "string" us just an array of 16-bit integers
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  3756. # [23:48] <bz> the same way that a C++ one is an array of 8-bit integers
  3757. # [23:49] <jez> bz: it takes a javascript string, made up of 16- and 32-bit unicode characters, and magically turns it into an "nsISupports"
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  3760. # [23:49] <jez> which is represented internally as a wstring or something
  3761. # [23:49] <jez> that's not simplifying?
  3762. # [23:49] <tessarakt> Strings are strings
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  3764. # [23:49] <tessarakt> what sensible meaning does the number of bytes or code units have?
  3765. # [23:50] <tessarakt> in which normalization form?
  3766. # [23:50] <jez> tessarakt: *I* don't care, but this API does
  3767. # [23:50] <jez> that's the problem
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  3769. # [23:50] <tessarakt> what an application might be interested in is, e.g., the width in pixels of the string according to some font metrics
  3770. # [23:51] <jez> or it might not rely on the string's being null-terminated; if it did, maybe you could just pass null in as the length
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  3776. # [23:51] <bz> jez: This API is Fucking Broken
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  3778. # [23:52] <bz> jez: In particular, it seems to not actually care what number you pass to it, in practice....
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  3780. # [23:52] <bz> jez: As far as I can tell.
  3781. # [23:52] <tessarakt> I remember working with the Mozilla C++ String API once ...
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  3783. # [23:52] <jez> i suppose if you pass in .length*2, you'll probably get the right length, but for every 32-bit unicode character in there, you'll get 2 bytes too few
  3784. # [23:52] <tessarakt> at least, it's damn complicated
  3785. # [23:52] <bz> jez: er... how so?
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  3788. # [23:52] <bz> tessarakt: The API we're talking about here is like a million times worse than the C++ string API
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  3791. # [23:52] <jez> bz: you're taking the character and saying it's 2 bytes, but it's internally represented as 4
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  3793. # [23:53] <bz> jez: If you have a non-bmp character in a JS string, and only that character.
  3794. # [23:53] <tessarakt> bz: I once coded a substring search which was supposed to be very very simple
  3795. # [23:53] <bz> jez: the .length of that string will be 2
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  3797. # [23:53] <jez> ohh i see
  3798. # [23:53] <tessarakt> reviewer comment at my first try: "apparently our String API sucks"
  3799. # [23:53] <jez> it calls one "long" characters "2 characetrs"
  3800. # [23:53] <jez> heh
  3801. # [23:53] <nemo> jez: wait. that's clearer? I thought I demoed that :(
  3802. # [23:54] <nemo> jez: I included one BMP char and one non-BMP
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  3804. # [23:54] <jez> nemo: yeah, i didnt get why the initial length was 3
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  3806. # [23:54] <bz> because measuring length is hard
  3807. # [23:54] <jez> we're talking one "long" character and one "regular" character?
  3808. # [23:54] <nemo> yes :D
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  3810. # [23:54] <jez> in which case, *2 is exactly right
  3811. # [23:54] <bz> just pass length*2
  3812. # [23:54] <tessarakt> length = number of UTF-16 code units, right?
  3813. # [23:54] <jez> but, .length is bullshit
  3814. # [23:54] <bz> and file a bug for a sane API here
  3815. # [23:54] <bz> jez: so....
  3816. # [23:55] <bz> jez: This is where measuring "length" gets complicated
  3817. # [23:55] <jez> that smiley face is "length 2"
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  3819. # [23:55] <nemo> bz: for reference, discussing this test string
  3820. # [23:55] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt
  3821. # [23:55] <bz> jez: Say you have a string which contains an "a" with two dots over it
  3822. # [23:55] <bz> jez: what's the length?
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  3824. # [23:55] <nemo> and my attempt to count UTF-8 bytes which was what I actually needed
  3825. # [23:55] <jez> bz: depends on whether it's the umlaut a, or a followed by umlaut 'modifier' or somethnig
  3826. # [23:55] <nemo> hehe
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  3829. # [23:56] <nemo> combining chars. trick question. nice catch
  3830. # [23:56] <tessarakt> jez: that's what normalization forms are for
  3831. # [23:56] <bz> jez: yup
  3832. # [23:56] <jez> still, one 32-bit character should be considered length 1
  3833. # [23:56] <nemo> er. wait what?
  3834. # [23:56] <nemo> 32 bit character?
  3835. # [23:56] <nemo> there aren't any unicode that long yet
  3836. # [23:56] <bz> jez: The point is, there are multiple different "length" concepts
  3837. # [23:56] <jez> nemo: well, UTF-32
  3838. # [23:56] <bz> There's "how many code units?"
  3839. # [23:57] <bz> There's "how many Unicode code points?"
  3840. # [23:57] <bz> There's "how many grapheme clusters?"
  3841. # [23:57] <jez> fair enough i guess.
  3842. # [23:57] <bz> (probably a few others)
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  3844. # [23:57] <nemo> bz: I'm relieved you said that api was broken, 'cause I thought my complete inability to grasp what they wanted was due to lack of sleep
  3845. # [23:57] <jez> the real question is, why does this API want me to give it an integer?
  3846. # [23:57] <nemo> was feeling my IQ points draining away
  3847. # [23:57] <bz> jez: because this API is FUCKING INSANE
  3848. # [23:57] <jez> :-)
  3849. # [23:57] <bz> jez: seriously.
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  3852. # [23:58] <bz> jez: I just read through the code involved. It's completely bonkers
  3853. # [23:58] <jez> nsTransferable.cpp?
  3854. # [23:58] <jez> ive got that up now
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  3856. # [23:58] <bz> jez: Probably hasn't been improved since someone at Netscape with a design patterns fetish dealt with it
  3857. # [23:58] <bz> jez: and several clipboard impls
  3858. # [23:58] <bz> jez: Please please file a bug with what you're trying to do asking for a sane API for it
  3859. # [23:58] <bz> jez: because this is just not ok.
  3860. # [23:59] <jez> bz: actually, there is another clipboard API: nsIClipboardHelper
  3861. # [23:59] <nemo> jez: just for fun... print("ä".length+' | '+"ä".length)
  3862. # [23:59] <jez> im not sure if that got added later?
  3863. # [23:59] <tessarakt> bz: There's "How many pixels according to some font metric?"
  3864. # [23:59] * vt_ is now known as vt
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  3866. # Session Close: Wed Apr 09 00:00:00 2014

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