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1. # Session Start: Wed Apr 09 00:00:00 2014
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5. # [00:00] <jez> bz: just to play devil's advocate, isn's it ok to just pass in .length*2?
6. # [00:02] <nemo> pass MAX_INT-1
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18. # [00:05] <bz> jez: passing length*2 will work, I think
19. # [00:05] <jez> so what's the bug?
20. # [00:05] <bz> jez: but I think, with just as much confidence, that passing 0 will work too
21. # [00:05] <bz> jez: and so will passing 42
22. # [00:05] <bz> jez: and 1234567
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26. # [00:05] <bz> jez: the bug is that we just had to have a long discussion about what number to pass
27. # [00:05] <bz> jez: to an API that afaict then ignores that number
28. # [00:05] <bz> jez: That's just broken
29. # [00:06] <@ehsan> Gijs: you nailed it, thanks!!
30. # [00:07] <bz> Who's sheriff?
31. # [00:07] * bz can't tell
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33. # [00:07] <nemo> bz: actually jez has been working on this for 5½h - in here at least.
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35. # [00:07] <jez> bz: where's the implementation?
36. # [00:07] <AutomatedTester> bz: kwierso had to go on PTO and philor is around
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38. # [00:07] <jez> nemo: had a break for dinner actually
39. # [00:07] <AutomatedTester> not sure if he is currently sheriffin
40. # [00:08] <jez> bz: i think nsClipboardHelper.cpp is a different API
41. # [00:08] <philor> bz: open
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53. # [00:11] <mrbkap> dolske: ping?
54. # [00:11] * @smaug kicks hub
55. # [00:12] <hub> smaug: yeah I deserve it
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57. # [00:12] <hub> I AM SORRY
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59. # [00:13] <@smaug> hub: sorry. it was just a gentle kick :)
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61. # [00:13] <hub> smaug: harder
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65. # [00:16] <Callek> hub: mass password change is broken in australis???
66. # [00:16] <Callek> it seemed to work for me on current aurora
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69. # [00:16] <@khuey> you need to manually enable it
70. # [00:16] <Callek> that is "Mass Password Reset"
71. # [00:16] <@khuey> or something
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73. # [00:16] <@khuey> but it works fine once you do
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75. # [00:17] <jez> hmm. how do you search for, say, the 10 most recently-filed bugs in bugzilla
76. # [00:17] <jez> ?
77. # [00:17] <@bsmedberg> jez: bugs creation date > 1d sort by bugid
78. # [00:17] <Callek> ooo, it never disabled on me
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85. # [00:18] <jez> bsmedberg: doesnt bug creation date need an actual date? rather than "1 day ago"
86. # [00:18] <@bsmedberg> no. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?order=Bug%20Number&list_id=9858266&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=2h
87. # [00:18] <dholbert> jez, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=saved-searches has a "bugs filed today" entry which you can use
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89. # [00:18] <hub> Callek: in *hidden* menu bar.
90. # [00:18] <hub> Callek: that's probably why I didnd't find it.
91. # [00:19] <hub> anyway
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94. # [00:19] <Callek> hub, yea... but you can *enable* the menubar!
95. # [00:19] <Callek> duh
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97. # [00:19] <Callek> and the menubar is there if you use a mac
98. # [00:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86f28454cc50 - David Burns - Bug 990298: Correcting window switching test; r=jgriffin
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102. # [00:20] <Callek> :-)
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105. # [00:21] <Waldo> mm, scumbag heartbleed
106. # [00:21] <nemo> Waldo: I changed my ssh keys before I read it didn't impact ssh
107. # [00:21] <nemo> luckily kept backup
108. # [00:21] <nemo> but yeah. really nasty attack
109. # [00:22] <nemo> https://gist.github.com/dberkholz/10169691
110. # [00:22] <nemo> about as bad as ssl bugs get
111. # [00:22] <jez> bz: I found this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328870
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113. # [00:22] <nemo> Waldo: www.barclaycardus.com:443 - VULNERABLE
114. # [00:22] <jez> filed in *ahem* 2006
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118. # [00:22] <hub> Callek: I use a serious OS. see my reply in private
119. # [00:23] <WeirdAl> jez - oops, I had a hand in confirming that :)
120. # [00:23] <jez> bz: cc'd you
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122. # [00:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/edcce2158c32 - Dave Hunt - Bug 991507 - Fall back to the system unzip command if Python is unable to read the zip file. r=jgriffin
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124. # [00:24] <wlach> khuey: thanks for ending that
125. # [00:25] * coop|mtg is now known as coop
126. # [00:26] <@khuey> wlach: anytime
127. # [00:27] * dholbert reply-all's khuey email with "+1"
128. # [00:27] <@khuey> every time you send an email to the whole company I kill a kitten
129. # [00:27] <catlee> me too!
130. # [00:27] <@khuey> make them count
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133. # [00:27] <dholbert> khuey++
134. # [00:27] <catlee> I hate cats
135. # [00:27] <@khuey> catlee: ironic, eh?
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137. # [00:27] <catlee> so now I have a way to get rid of them?
138. # [00:28] <@khuey> I was referring to your nick
139. # [00:28] <@bsmedberg> oh, it's patch tuesday also...
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141. # [00:29] <jez> in case anyone's interested, here's my note on the issue that reflects my conclusion:
142. # [00:29] <jez> - Note that (at least for now), multiplying string length by 2 results in the correct "byte length" for the string, because a UTF-32 character will actually be reported by .length as 2, rather than 1; 'xyz'.length basically gives the number of bytes used to hold the string divided by 2.
143. # [00:30] <@smaug> mdn search...
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145. # [00:30] <@smaug> profile-before-change gives me ::before
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148. # [00:31] <nemo> Waldo: Insightful comment on YC unfortunately
149. # [00:31] <nemo> "
150. # [00:31] <nemo> Yeah, up until very recently it would be possible to make a script that would log you into a random yahoo mail account. For vulnerable servers right now it would be better to just block port 443, forcing regular HTTP is safer."
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152. # [00:31] <nemo> yeah. pretty much
153. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf99640d19e5 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 979653 - fix dir attribute checks for url field in rtl mode, r=ehsan
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155. # [00:32] <WeirdAl> jez - it might be wiser to force people to give it an input stream instead
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157. # [00:32] <Waldo> bsmedberg: that doesn't sound like a coincidence to me, when you say it
158. # [00:32] <WeirdAl> encoding can mess people up, as you just discovered
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160. # [00:32] <@khuey> hub: it's fine
161. # [00:32] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: perhaps not
162. # [00:32] <Waldo> good thing I don't use Windows! :-)
163. # [00:32] <@bsmedberg> or Flash
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166. # [00:35] <AutomatedTester> jdm: hey, how does bugsahoy (and related) pull which bugs are Good First bugs? Is it looking for [good first bug] or [mentor=<foo>]
167. # [00:35] <jez> WeirdAl: perhaps... i assume there's a way in JS to turn a string into an input stream?
168. # [00:35] <WeirdAl> there are, yes
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170. # [00:35] <WeirdAl> one moment
171. # [00:36] <jdm> AutomatedTester: [mentor= in general, and [good first bug] for "simple bugs"
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173. # [00:36] <WeirdAl> jez: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Code_snippets/File_I_O#Writing_to_a_file
174. # [00:37] <WeirdAl> I didn't really know about encoding back in 2006
175. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/830c3c0720c3 - Terrence Cole - Bug 990336 - Change the representation of SlotEdge for better performance; r=jonco
176. # [00:38] <AutomatedTester> jdm: so we get them with [good first bug] and then they move on to [mentor=*] bugs?
177. # [00:39] <jdm> AutomatedTester: if they go looking for "simple bugs", potentially. I try to add both annotations to bugs that are also good first bugs.
178. # [00:39] <AutomatedTester> jdm: ok cool
179. # [00:39] <AutomatedTester> jdm: wanting to clean my teams GFB up
180. # [00:39] <jdm> AutomatedTester++
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185. # [00:45] * reuben wonders if khuey thought that would actually work
186. # [00:45] <@khuey> it usually does
187. # [00:46] <@khuey> fox2mike wants me to kill another kitten
188. # [00:46] <wlach> well, the newer replies are containing mildly useful information
189. # [00:46] <@khuey> the signal to noise ratio is vastly improved
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193. # [00:48] <fox2mike> khuey: hey dude, can't let misinformation live on :p
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195. # [00:49] <@khuey> fox2mike: https://xkcd.com/386/
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198. # [00:50] <jez> well whaddya know. apparently mxr is dead, and im meant to use dxr now
199. # [00:50] <jez> can't even find what dxr stands for
200. # [00:50] <@khuey> MXR WFM
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203. # [00:50] <@khuey> MXR had better not die
204. # [00:50] <@khuey> DXR sucks
205. # [00:50] <jez> no, but someone blogged that it was not being maintained
206. # [00:50] <jez> i dont mean it's down
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208. # [00:51] <@khuey> oh
209. # [00:51] <@khuey> it hasn't been maintained since timeless started working for RIM, IIRC
210. # [00:51] <@khuey> which was years ago
211. # [00:51] <jez> RIM, eh? maybe he wants to get a job at Mozilla again
212. # [00:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28c0f1bcfd17 - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Shut down gfx at the end of layout shutdown. r=bsmedberg
213. # [00:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/118273e2a656 - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Move imgLoader singleton management out of nsContentUtils. r=bsmedberg
214. # [00:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6ccf0698fa1 - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Release nsLayoutStatics when the layout module is unloaded. r=bsmedberg
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216. # [00:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b252dda58d66 - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Shut down imagelib at the end of layout shutdown. r=bsmedberg
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223. # [00:53] <@khuey> alright I give up
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231. # [00:58] <nemo> https://www.michael-p-davis.com/using-heartbleed-for-hijacking-user-sessions/
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233. # [00:59] <nemo> yeah. there must be a lot of unhappy sysadmins out there today
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235. # [01:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/109ea225a968 - Dan Gohman - Bug 985130 - IonMonkey: Omit over-recursion checks in leaf functions. r=luke
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247. # [01:02] <@dbaron> does anybody remember the #ifdef we use for "if we want to clean stuff up at shutdown"?
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250. # [01:02] <philor> #ifdef 0
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254. # [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c9b81b1f3ec - Dave Hunt - Bug 993700 - Bump mozversion version to 0.3. r=jgriffin
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271. # [01:10] <jesup> nemo: A lot of sysadmins who are/will be dead-tired and drunk soon^h^h^h^hsomeday
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274. # [01:11] <fox2mike> jesup: hah. I wish. been an insane couple of weeks
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276. # [01:11] <gps> mmc: mach rbt should now work with mozilla-central on Windows. mind giving it a test?
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279. # [01:12] <gps> mmc: I /think/ you said something about that 2-3 months ago
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325. # [01:31] <yvan> so I have pretty much no useful experience writing add-ons, but it would be super helpful if we could ship a firefox add-on like this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromebleed/eeoekjnjgppnaegdjbcafdggilajhpic
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328. # [01:32] <yvan> if anyone has cycles to help out... great.. otherwise I will be asking questions about the best way to approach this as I finish setting up the addon sdk :D
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331. # [01:34] <mmc> GPS, sure
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333. # [01:35] <mmc> . but probably not till tomorrow
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336. # [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08aa13c6feac - Kyle Huey - Bug 993203: Add a memory reporter to count SettingsManager observers. r=njn
337. # [01:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88ee33546b3a - Kyle Huey - Bug 991812: Remove uses of RefCounted in code that lives solely in Gecko. r=ehsan
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342. # [01:41] <Waldo> snorp++
343. # [01:41] <Waldo> snorp: maybe some office snacks would cheer you up
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345. # [01:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99bf9e35c4ed - Ben Kelly - Bug 993548: Free load buffer before starting script compile. r=khuey
346. # [01:43] <Waldo> (context being https://twitter.com/snorp/status/453655450756452354 for those not following)
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353. # [01:44] <froydnj> want to eat office snacks
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362. # [01:51] <sewardj> glandium: around?
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366. # [01:52] <glandium> sewardj: yes
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370. # [01:53] <sewardj> glandium: morning. am trying to build with clang, per https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Building_Firefox_with_Address_Sanitizer
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373. # [01:54] <sewardj> glandium: and using the mozconfig stated there, but am getting failures in configure
374. # [01:54] <sewardj> glandium: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4778608
375. # [01:54] <sewardj> any idea why that might be?
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380. # [01:55] <glandium> sewardj: what is your mozconfig?
381. # [01:56] <sewardj> glandium: mozconfig = https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4778647
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387. # [01:56] <sewardj> glandium: decoder suggested I rm the export HOST_ lines, so I did, but that didn't help
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390. # [01:57] <philor> sunfish: do those J crashes look like you?
391. # [01:57] <glandium> sewardj: what does /home/sewardj/MOZ/MC-07-04-2014/ff-asan/intl/icu/target/config.log contain?
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394. # [01:58] <sewardj> ah
395. # [01:58] <sewardj> glandium: you always ask the right questions :-)
396. # [01:58] <sewardj> glandium: ==22881==ERROR: AddressSanitizer failed to allocate 0x400000000 (17179869184) bytes at address 27917254656 (12)
397. # [01:59] <sewardj> Perhaps you're using ulimit -v
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399. # [01:59] <sewardj> which is true, I am
400. # [01:59] <glandium> sewardj: can you file a bug about the config.log dump when configure fails is not useful when the failing configure is a subconfigure?
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402. # [02:00] <sewardj> glandium: will do
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405. # [02:00] <glandium> sewardj: thanks
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407. # [02:00] <sewardj> glandium: likewise.
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410. # [02:02] <philor> khuey: that non-unified b2g desktop Windows looks a lot like you
411. # [02:03] <@khuey> philor: probably!
412. # [02:03] <@khuey> philor: should I fix or bounce?
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414. # [02:04] <sunfish> philor: looking
415. # [02:04] <philor> khuey: fix
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423. # [02:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0af6a6d220a - Kyle Huey - Bug 991812: Followup for non-unified builds on a CLOSED TREE. r=me
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425. # [02:10] <@khuey> philor: I skimmed the rest of the patch and didn't see anything else that obviously needs the same treatment
426. # [02:10] <sunfish> philor: it doesn't fail for me, but looking at the testcase, it seems likely that it's my patch
427. # [02:10] <@khuey> but it might be out there
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429. # [02:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ddd7db33608b - Ed Lee - Bug 993581 - use an empty directory tiles data source pref [r=adw]
430. # [02:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6367da464037 - Maxim Zhilyaev - Bug 990977 - Sponsored tiles: don't expose explanation URL as a localizable string [r=adw]
431. # [02:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/07b0a0f32570 - Olivier Yiptong - Bug 992327 - Change directoryLinks and NewTabUtils to imageURI instead of imageURISpec [r=adw]
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441. # [02:21] <@khuey> le sigh
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445. # [02:24] <@khuey> oh I was talking about the tree I broke
446. # [02:24] <@khuey> :)
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450. # [02:25] <derf> Sorry, I couldn't see my tbpl window under all these e-mails.
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457. # [02:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c333abd5318d - Kyle Huey - Back out bug 991812 for bustage on a CLOSED TREE. r=me
458. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d45aedc16b88 - Kyle Huey - Backed out changeset e0af6a6d220a
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466. # [02:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5cd3b8b0039b - Chenxia Liu - Bug 903535 - Need to update text for user visible opt in UI for cell tower and wifi data collection and reporting. r=bnicholson
467. # [02:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a85917844058 - Chenxia Liu - Bug 903535 - Tests. r=bnicholson
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518. # [03:00] <sunfish> philor: ok if I push a one-line fix for the J failure?
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521. # [03:01] <@khuey> sunfish: yes
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528. # [03:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf165cddae07 - Dan Gohman - Bug 985130 - IonMonkey: Use possibleCalls() instead of isCall(), to handle nodes like ApplyArgs, on a CLOSED TREE r=me
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534. # [03:09] <karl> glandium: thank you for your comments on gtk2 plugins; the other idea i had only recently to avoid needing a special build version was to have our own libgtk-x11-2.0 libgdk-x11-2.0 (+ gtk3 versions), instead of mozgtk
535. # [03:09] <karl> glandium: then link libxul against both gtk2 and gtk3 libraries
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538. # [03:11] <glandium> karl: now you mention it, there's even simpler
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541. # [03:12] <glandium> karl: link libxul against libgtk-3.so.0, and LD_PRELOAD a libgtk-3.so.0 with dummy symbols and linked against gtk2 when loading plugin-container
542. # [03:12] <glandium> is it just me or the vpn is down?
543. # [03:12] <karl> yes, exactly
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545. # [03:12] <nigelb> Morning!
546. # [03:12] <glandium> nigelb: hey
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548. # [03:12] <nigelb> hello!
549. # [03:13] <glandium> karl: mmm you were saying the opposite
550. # [03:13] <karl> glandium: oh, i see the difference
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554. # [03:14] <karl> glandium: i'm liking your solution, but i wonder whether there may be gtk2 only symbols used by the plugin host
555. # [03:15] <glandium> karl: considering pochu's progress, i guess it's not a problem
556. # [03:15] <karl> gdk_window_object_get_type, i assume
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559. # [03:16] <karl> pochu handled gdk_window_object_get_type through and ifdef in mozgtk.c
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563. # [03:17] <glandium> karl: i see. well, we could have a gdk_window_get_type function in our fake gtk3 lib that calls gdk_window_object_get_type
564. # [03:18] <karl> glandium: sounds good (was just coming to that conclusion)
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567. # [03:18] <karl> glandium: i guess pochu is linking the plugin host cpp files against gtk3, while they are run against gtk2
568. # [03:19] <glandium> karl: that's my guess too
569. # [03:19] <nigelb> inbound looks pretty
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571. # [03:19] <karl> glandium: that might be ok, so long as no data structures are accessed as structs
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573. # [03:19] <karl> glandium: gtk3 tried to hide all data structures, so that might save us
574. # [03:20] <karl> glandium: i hope no enums are different
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591. # [03:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/451ed603e2b5 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 972684 - Don't use about:home in browser_findbar.js since it leads to intermittent failures and isn't necessary for the test. r=mikedeboer
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615. # [03:43] <yvan> hey folks, I am running nightly 31 and get an error creating a toggle button using the sample here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Low-Level_APIs/ui_button_toggle
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622. # [03:45] <yvan> wrong channel, sorry :/
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694. # [04:24] <nigelb> philor: how do I know which test is leaking in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37481373&tree=Fx-Team
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703. # [04:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3627984da60d - Matt Woodrow - Bug 991046 - Combine the display item clips when we flatten an nsDisplayOpacity. r=roc
704. # [04:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d17583440ac0 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 988862 - Treat DIRECT2D render mode as GDI when drawing directly to the window through BasicLayers. r=jrmuizel
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707. # [04:31] <philor> nigelb: you look at the first leaked object, say "oh, media/ is leaking again," and move on
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709. # [04:32] <nigelb> :)
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810. # [05:35] <philor> mattwoodrow: Win8 wants to know how you expect it to draw that pea-soup green radius the same way every time
811. # [05:35] <mattwoodrow> win8 is a terrible person
812. # [05:36] <mattwoodrow> philor: I’ll fuzz it, it’s stil testing the right thing
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906. # [06:40] <mattwoodrow> Did mach’s handling of ctrl-c change recently?
907. # [06:40] <mattwoodrow> Because now when I try to interrupt my debugger it just quits mach instead
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911. # [06:46] <firebot> Check-in:
912. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e129328fdfe3 - Chris Pearce - Bug 992105 - Remember topics for screensaver lock in Windows WakeLockListener, so that toggling fullscreen while playing video doesn't prevent screen wakelock being
913. # [06:46] <firebot> unlocked. r=padenot
914. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26d87e24848b - Chris Pearce - Bug 993003 - Ensure we abort media load if IMFSourceReader creation fails. r=padenot
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944. # [07:03] <glob> dbaron, tabs
945. # [07:03] <@dbaron> glob, does the midair collision form load that fast?
946. # [07:03] <@dbaron> maybe the API?
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948. # [07:04] <glob> dbaron, yeah, could be api driven
949. # [07:05] <glob> dbaron, just so you know, we're doing some serious work on bmo performance this quarter
950. # [07:05] <glob> i'm not expecting any "big bang" improvements, but we're working on gradually making things faster
951. # [07:05] <@dbaron> glob, does that include client-side performance (sending less data, smaller stylesheets/scripts, less intensive stuff in scripts)?
952. # [07:06] <glob> dbaron, yes
953. # [07:06] <mattwoodrow> dbaron: mcmerge in two tabs :)
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955. # [07:06] <@dbaron> mattwoodrow, indeed, that will do it
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963. # [07:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9b9144df3a8a - Vicamo Yang - Bug 979134: convert test_mobile_data_location.js to Promise. r=hsinyi
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965. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/fb0c8c9f331a - Vicamo Yang - Bug 979134: convert test_mobile_data_state.js to Promise. r=hsinyi
966. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2384ee2298f0 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 979134: convert test_mobile_operator_names.js to Promise. r=hsinyi
967. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/370b65e58512 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 979134: share wrapDomRequestAsPromise. r=hsinyi
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1120. # [09:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fa9564a2486 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 974893 - Remove EnterCompartment and keep the global with the value in Promise, r=bz
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1130. # [09:39] <Alessar> Hello. One question. I try to push patch on try server. But get error "remote: Permission denied (publickey)" What have happend? What should I do with it?
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1141. # [09:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2d76999fe595 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1151. # [09:58] <Tomcat-sheriffduty> baku: ping
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1153. # [09:58] <Tomcat-sheriffduty> bustage on inbound
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1164. # [10:02] <Tomcat-sheriffduty> edmorley: hi, could you backout the push from baku , working on restoring my mbp
1165. # [10:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/50c45d7ae9f7 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 30 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1166. # [10:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1497cb76b145 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1174. # [10:06] <edmorley> Tomcat-sheriffduty: sure :-)
1175. # [10:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70f74c983cdf - Michal Novotny - Bug 920573 - HTTP cache v2: Remove all cache files during shutdown when "Clear history when Firefox closes" + "Cache" setting is checked, r=honzab
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1179. # [10:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddea7fdd09bf - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 7fa9564a2486 (bug 974893) for build failures
1180. # [10:08] <Alessar> Anybody knows how to use try servers?
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1182. # [10:09] <edmorley> Tomcat-sheriffduty: done :-)
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1350. # [12:18] <sewardj> glandium: do you happen to know if we have any mfbt/ magic include, that has a macro that convinces the compiler that a given (scalar) value is used?
1351. # [12:18] <sewardj> even if it isn't?
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1427. # [13:25] <avih> hmm.. i _think_ firefox 28 works smoother with intel hd graphics after windows 8.1 update from yesterday...
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1437. # [13:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: ping
1438. # [13:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: i guess https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37502152&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is from your push
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1440. # [13:33] <padenot> ./v 11
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1452. # [13:38] * h4writer thinks it is abnormal that "searching for changes" already took 5min+ when pushing to try
1453. # [13:39] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: is 'try' closed or broken?
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1455. # [13:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> sewardj: hm it should be open
1456. # [13:39] <sewardj> h4writer: oh, it's waiting for some lock.
1457. # [13:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> at least the other trees are up and running
1458. # [13:39] <sewardj> h4writer: but it succeeded for you?
1459. # [13:40] <h4writer> sewardj, it didn't :(
1460. # [13:40] <h4writer> sewardj, still waiting. Should I ctrl+c it and retry?
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1462. # [13:40] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: h4writer: remote: abort: repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try/: timed out waiting for lock held by hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:1850
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1465. # [13:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore: ^ are you guys aware of any hg problem at the moment
1466. # [13:40] <sewardj> h4writer: mine eventually timed out
1467. # [13:41] <h4writer> sewardj, oh, strange (looks like I don't have that timeout)
1468. # [13:41] <padenot> sewardj, Tomcat|sheriffduty, I've seen it reported by a couple people very recently
1469. # [13:42] <padenot> not sure how to fix it
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1472. # [13:42] <sewardj> h4writer: it takes 5-10 mins to time out
1473. # [13:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm i will ask IT if they know of problems
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1475. # [13:43] <h4writer> ah, that could be it
1476. # [13:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> h4writer: sewardj ok pinged on-call now in #it to see if they are aware of problems
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1489. # [13:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> h4writer: sorry that i couldn't much help, my work mbp failed today and in the process of reinstalling all stuff and cloning :)
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1492. # [13:56] <h4writer> Tomcat|sheriffduty, oh np. I'll just try lateron and hope it is fixed
1493. # [13:56] <h4writer> Tomcat|sheriffduty, I just saw the queue was very small. So the turnaround would have been awesome now. (Guess I now know why :P)
1494. # [13:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
1495. # [13:56] <pmoore> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes, this sounds like it could be an infra issue with the hg server
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1503. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b98b91b3dfe1 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 990392: Make |sIsPairing| non-atomic, r=echou
1504. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/eee537db59b7 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 990392: Move |sAdapterPath| to I/O thread, r=echou
1505. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d928cffbf731 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 990392: Move sAuthorizedServiceClass to I/O thread, r=echou
1506. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/59aa466f0a65 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 990392: Fix comments about shared variables in BluetoothDBusService, r=echou
1507. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d391c6c5228f - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 990392: Cleanup |GetServiceChannel| in BluetoothDBusService, r=echou
1508. # [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/dd22e084b2af - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 990392: Move |sControllerArray| to main thread, r=echou
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1511. # [14:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e5711c0cc1d - Jan de Mooij - Bug 988993 - Ion-compile scripts with arrow functions. r=bhackett
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1518. # [14:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a745d6526479 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 987680. Change a reftest to expect scrollbars on top of non-positioned sibling content. Mark some other reftests as passing now. r=roc
1519. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd92d0ebed9b - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 987680. Overlay scrollbars should be placed on top of content. r=roc
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1523. # [14:13] <Gijs> Who does certificate trust store stuff these days?
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1529. # [14:20] <gabor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: sorry was not here
1530. # [14:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np
1531. # [14:21] <zzzzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994033 - should this be marked security maybe ?> its also in wrong product/component I believe
1532. # [14:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: could you take a look at that error ?
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1535. # [14:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ae4e23f9ab75 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1538. # [14:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> zzzzz: i guess the guys in #security already took a look and triaged that bug
1539. # [14:22] <zzzzz> tnx
1540. # [14:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71945517001a - Hannes Verschore - Bug 989152 - Tracelogging: Add support for TLLOG flags, r=till
1541. # [14:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07c0cf637290 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 944392 - Tracelogging: Land version 0.2, r=till,bbouvier
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1544. # [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b32aa0108886 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 944706 - Tracelogging: Make it possible to flush an incomplete tree, r=bbouvier
1545. # [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/789e7f8b3603 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 989152 - Tracelogging: Log the ion compilation passes, r=bhackett
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1557. # [14:27] <TheOne> are bugs about servers vulnerable to the heartbleed bug eligible to the bug bounty program?
1558. # [14:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> TheOne: maybe a good question for #security :)
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1561. # [14:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> they might know there
1562. # [14:29] <TheOne> thx
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1568. # [14:34] <gabor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: This is creepy. I don't think it is the result of my patch since it happens only on one build... but this is a bug we need to look into
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1570. # [14:34] <gabor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: can we re-run it and see if it's an intermittent?
1571. # [14:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: hm seems to happen also on the next push from h4writer
1572. # [14:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so seems a permanent error but will retrigger too
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1574. # [14:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> also win8 debug only it seems
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1579. # [14:38] <gabor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm not too happy about backing out that patch but if it's causing a permanent failure, then I don't think we have much choice
1580. # [14:38] <gabor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: even if it's intermittent for that matter... if it start from my patch only
1581. # [14:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1583. # [14:39] <gabor> sigh... not my day
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1585. # [14:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: yeah sorry :( will see if the retrigger comes back with the same failure or not
1586. # [14:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i can do the backout in this case too
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1588. # [14:40] <gabor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
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1633. # [15:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: seems its a constant failure, will back it out
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1648. # [15:18] <Gijs> Was there a way to get msvc 2012 to build a Firefox that runs on XP?
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1650. # [15:18] * Gijs has been poking MDN/Google for a while now with no result
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1653. # [15:19] <clb> Gijs: I think it comes down to not using any of the new symbols, and defining _WINVER to the Windows XP version when building
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1655. # [15:19] <clb> not sure how to configure Firefox build for that though
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1657. # [15:20] <Gijs> well, quite. :)
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1662. # [15:21] <clb> what happens when you try to run on XP?
1663. # [15:21] <Gijs> It claims it's not a valid Windows application :)
1664. # [15:22] <Gijs> s/Windows/Win32/, I suppose, but either way
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1666. # [15:22] <clb> what does http://www.dependencywalker.com say when you try to run it?
1667. # [15:23] <clb> that should be able to complain about which symbols are being used and from where
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1669. # [15:24] <clb> oh, http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/10/08/windows-xp-targeting-with-c-in-visual-studio-2012.aspx suggests that it's possible to specify the LINK env var to target the right winver
1670. # [15:24] <clb> set LINK=/SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE,5.01 %LINK%
1671. # [15:24] <clb> hopefully firefox build won't nuke that if it's set
1672. # [15:25] <Gijs> dependency walker just gives a nice tree...
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1680. # [15:28] <clb> Gijs: press F7 (Start profiling), and it should populate a list of any missing symbols
1681. # [15:29] <clb> that often gives a clue of which dll is calling what non-existing function
1682. # [15:29] <Gijs> clb: nope, just get the same error "%1 is not a valid Win32 application (193)"
1683. # [15:30] <clb> did you build 64-bit or 32-bit executable?
1684. # [15:31] <Gijs> 32-bit, but that's really not the issue here. The package works fine on another win7 machine.
1685. # [15:31] <clb> yeh
1686. # [15:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8121fe54033 - Neil Deakin - Bug 991542, draw windows drop shadows from panels in content shells, r=tn
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1690. # [15:33] <clb> my guess is that it's a result of linking against the non-xp-supporting app subsystem :/
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1693. # [15:35] <clb> and/or post an issue with that snippet
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1766. # [16:15] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm planning to land a b2g regression fix on m-c
1767. # [16:15] <@ehsan> is that ok?
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1772. # [16:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: yup :-)
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1774. # [16:17] <@ehsan> thanks!
1775. # [16:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/93747d9cdde6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1781. # [16:22] <firebot> arky was last seen 3 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying 'Is there a video stream ?' in #india.
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1783. # [16:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5a5ed08df529 - Henry Chang - Bug 993732 - Should use renamed properties done by bug 988129. pending r=gene
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1785. # [16:22] <RyanVM> ehsan: do I need to have google+ enabled to use hangouts?
1786. # [16:22] <@ehsan> good question
1787. # [16:22] * @ehsan has used hangouts once
1788. # [16:22] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I think the answer is yes :(
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1801. # [16:31] <@smaug> RyanVM: You can create just some temporary google account for random google app usage
1802. # [16:31] <@smaug> and forget the account right after the usage
1803. # [16:31] <@smaug> doesn't matter too much if g+ is needed
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1813. # [16:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34ee2b8302aa - Geoff Brown - Bug 967704 - Update reftest manifests for Android 2.3; r=me
1814. # [16:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/817929e9eb00 - Geoff Brown - Bug 962676 - Reset expected assertion counts for Android crashtests; r=blassey
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1823. # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d248f6d9de80 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 994101. Allow skia content on windows.
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1829. # [16:48] <vlad> hm, where do about:support bugs go?
1830. # [16:48] <vlad> smaug: yeah it is, I've done it
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1844. # [17:00] <Ms2ger> roc, no longer doing management stuff? You're always welcome in #servo :)
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1847. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> gerv, I've seen an ssl library mentioned in #rust, but I don't remember the url... It's probably in the logs, though
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1849. # [17:02] <gerv> Ms2ger: The logs?
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1853. # [17:02] <gerv> Oh, I see. Sorry.
1854. # [17:02] <Ms2ger> https://botbot.me/mozilla/rust/
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1857. # [17:02] <Ms2ger> Not sure if anybody with ssl experience is involved, though
1858. # [17:03] <froydnj> it's ok, neither was anybody when openssl got started ;)
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1860. # [17:03] <edmorley|sheriffduty> lol
1861. # [17:04] <Ms2ger> froydnj, :/
1862. # [17:04] <gerv> Ms2ger: https://github.com/sfackler/rust-openssl
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1864. # [17:04] <gerv> But it's OpenSSL bindings for Rust.
1865. # [17:04] <jcranmer> I thought rust people wanted to use nss instead of openssl?
1866. # [17:04] <gerv> Ergo, vulnerable, and not what's wanted, AFAICS.
1867. # [17:05] <gerv> jcranmer: My contention is that the world needs an SSL library written in Rust.
1868. # [17:05] <jcranmer> maybe we could get the NSS people to use Rust instead of C :-P
1869. # [17:05] <gerv> jcranmer: Maybe :-)
1870. # [17:05] <gerv> But I suspect writing it from the ground up for the internet of today,
1871. # [17:05] <gerv> rather than trying to follow every PKIX standard,
1872. # [17:05] <gerv> would be the way to go.
1873. # [17:05] <froydnj> oh no, rust nspr bindings
1874. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> gerv, hrm, I was thinking of something else, I think
1875. # [17:05] <jcranmer> Havvy thinks the Rust SSL should be called RuSStL
1876. # [17:05] <gerv> See mozilla:pkix for an example.
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1878. # [17:06] <gerv> Ms2ger: Well, there was https://github.com/sfackler/rust-ssl , but it's the same thing.
1879. # [17:06] <gerv> Also https://github.com/mletterle/rust-nss .
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1882. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> gerv, https://github.com/DaGenix/rust-crypto/ is probably what I remembered
1883. # [17:07] <jgraham> I wonder how unsafe the current high churn rate makes rust
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1885. # [17:08] <gerv> Aha.
1886. # [17:08] <jgraham> Since you end up doing semi-automatic rewriting every so often and you might accidentially break things in subtle ways
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1888. # [17:08] <gerv> jgraham: I'm not saying we should all switch to it tomorrow,
1889. # [17:08] <jcranmer> crypto primitives in rust is going to be less tenable than the actual SSL stuff
1890. # [17:08] <gerv> but I'm saying that once Rust is stable, it needs to already exist.
1891. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, oh?
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1894. # [17:08] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: crypto needs strong guarantees for things like timing attacks, etc., and you're going to see the most resistance to reimplementing those at all
1895. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> Fair
1896. # [17:09] <jcranmer> but higher-level operations using those primitives are going to be less well-vetted and more error-prone
1897. # [17:09] <gerv> So, you could certainly start with taking the crypto primitives from a solid C implementation
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1899. # [17:09] <gerv> and doing the rest in Rust,
1900. # [17:09] <gerv> and then perhaps rewriting the crypto as you went.
1901. # [17:10] <jgraham> jcranmer: Are you just making the weak claim that just reimplementing crypto is bad or the stronger claim that reimplementing crypto in rust is worse than in C?
1902. # [17:10] <jgraham> ("weak" is not meant in the sense of "wrong")
1903. # [17:11] <jcranmer> jgraham: I'm making the claim that reimplementing crypto should the last step of reimplementing SSL, not the first one
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1905. # [17:11] <jgraham> jcranmer: OK
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1933. # [17:24] <Fallen> does anyone know a hack to change the symver of a linux binary? I need an xpcshell from Gecko 24.2.0 or later
1934. # [17:24] <Fallen> and the one in xulrunner is 24.0
1935. # [17:24] <Fallen> if someone has this xpcshell for linux 64 bits that would be great too
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1940. # [17:26] <nalexander> Fallen: is really recent okay? I think you should be able to fetch xpcshell from the test ZIP of any recent TBPL build.
1941. # [17:27] <Fallen> nalexander: it needs to be from gecko 24 specifically and due to a bug 24.2.0 or later, otherwise it won't be binary compatible with the libxul I need to run it with
1942. # [17:27] <Fallen> If I could convince someone to do a new xulrunner build that would be nice too :)
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1948. # [17:28] <Fallen> but let me check the tests for the 24.4.0 release
1949. # [17:29] <nalexander> Fallen: yeah, I would try http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-esr24-linux/1396986169/
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1951. # [17:29] <nalexander> Fallen: otherwise, you could try to figure out how far back we keep builds. But I really, really doubt we have 6 weeks * 7 releases worth of build and test data :)
1952. # [17:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d9ca5cc675ab - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Shut down imagelib at the end of layout shutdown. r=bsmedberg a=sylvestre
1953. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/aa31a8d4144a - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Release nsLayoutStatics when the layout module is unloaded. r=bsmedberg
1954. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1e2a6aedf71c - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Move imgLoader singleton management out of nsContentUtils. r=bsmedberg
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1957. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c1ef600fc4fb - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Shut down gfx at the end of layout shutdown. r=bsmedberg
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1962. # [17:32] <Fallen> nalexander: Thank you so much for the pointer! I got it from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/candidates/24.4.0esr-candidates/build1/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-24.4.0esr.tests.zip
1963. # [17:32] <nalexander> Fallen: huzzah!
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1992. # [17:46] <MarkVP> I'm trying to run the tests in mozilla-central/js/src/tests
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1994. # [17:47] <MarkVP> As the readme.txt says, I ran jstests.py --make-manifests . (is the dot correct?)
1995. # [17:47] <MarkVP> But I'm not sure how to run the tests after that.
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2001. # [17:48] <MarkVP> Ok, I'll ask there.
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2031. # [18:04] <bbouvier> who's the sheriff in duty?
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2033. # [18:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/08be57af6b97 - Nick Alexander - Bug 988437 - Part 2: Make Firefox Account Android Account type unique per package. r=rnewman, a=sylvestre
2034. # [18:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0e026f42b85f - Nick Alexander - Bug 988437 - Part 1: Allow unpickling across Android Account types; bump pickle version. r=rnewman, a=sylvestre
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2041. # [18:06] <nalexander> RyanVM: sorry to address all of my repo management questions to you, but: can you take a look at the branches on mozilla-beta HEAD? It looks like bholley and I have are carrying around some tags (GECKO290b6_2014040716_RELBRANCH) that I don't expect.
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2043. # [18:06] <nalexander> RyanVM: or re-direct as appropriate :)
2044. # [18:06] <RyanVM> nalexander: in a meeting now
2045. # [18:06] <RyanVM> nalexander: but yeah, you guys didn't push to default
2046. # [18:06] <RyanVM> you need to backout from the relbranch and re-land
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2048. # [18:06] <RyanVM> bholley ^
2049. # [18:07] <nalexander> RyanVM: okay, I'll try to deal with my part of this shortly.
2050. # [18:07] <bholley> nalexander: can you do both of them while you're at it?
2051. # [18:07] <nalexander> bholley: I'll try.
2052. # [18:07] <bholley> nalexander: thanks
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2058. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> bbouvier, doesn't look like there's a sheriff in town
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2065. # [18:12] <@bz> hrm
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2067. # [18:12] <bbouvier> Ms2ger: okay, let's try a broader audience then
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2069. # [18:12] <@bz> so in a current linux nightly
2070. # [18:12] <@bz> if I click the download manager button
2071. # [18:12] <@bz> the popup flickers and disappears
2072. # [18:12] <@bz> Known?
2073. # [18:12] * nalexander praises qbackout
2074. # [18:12] <bbouvier> how bad is it to land something that would help having AWFY not broken, while being sure it won't break the tree, but the tree is closed?
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2077. # [18:13] <@bz> bbouvier: Check with the sheriff?
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2080. # [18:13] <bbouvier> bz: no sheriff in town right now
2081. # [18:13] <@bz> mmm
2082. # [18:13] <@bz> what are you trying to land?
2083. # [18:14] <@bz> ok
2084. # [18:14] <@bz> how the %^$%^$% do I open the download manager on Linux?
2085. # [18:14] <bbouvier> a patch for re-enabling tracelogging compilation on the shell -- which is apparently enabled by default on AWFY
2086. # [18:14] <@bz> via a menu or something?
2087. # [18:15] <@bz> bbouvier: js shell only?
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2090. # [18:15] <bbouvier> bz: yes
2091. # [18:15] <@bz> Go for it
2092. # [18:15] <JosiahOne> bz: Apparently a change was landed that gives the panels funky animations when you open/close them, it's probably a regression from that.
2093. # [18:15] * juanb is now known as juanb|afk
2094. # [18:16] <mak> bz: ctrl+J works on Win, don't remember the linux shortcut. btw, Tools / Downloads?
2095. # [18:16] <Tomcat|mtg> bz: well RyanVM, edmorley|mtg and i are a meeting but there :)
2096. # [18:16] <Tomcat|mtg> err bbouvier ^
2097. # [18:16] <rankov> froydnj: Hi.
2098. # [18:16] <Tomcat|mtg> but releng is working on the problem that closed the tree i guess :)
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2102. # [18:17] <froydnj> rankov: hi
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2104. # [18:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9eb226f6ac34 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 944392: Remove reference to PRThread in Tracelogger.h to reenable tracelogging compilation, on a CLOSED TREE; r=h4writer over irc
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2110. # [18:18] <@bz> mak: What tools?
2111. # [18:18] <@bz> mak: Australis == no menu. :
2112. # [18:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/577346071c40 - Nick Alexander - Backed out 6 changesets (bug 988437, bug 913138) for being pushed to the wrong branch. a=RyanVM
2113. # [18:19] <@bz> Ctrl+J focuses the google search box. :(
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2115. # [18:19] <JosiahOne> bz: Bug 610545 I'm guessing is the cause. But I can't be sure.
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2117. # [18:19] <froydnj> bz: ctrl-shift-y
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2119. # [18:19] <@bz> froydnj: Thanks!
2120. # [18:19] <froydnj> at least, that's what it is for me on linux
2121. # [18:20] <RyanVM> nalexander: so far, so good :)
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2123. # [18:20] <nalexander> RyanVM: \o/
2124. # [18:20] <rankov> froydnj: I have another MIPS patch. Can you review_
2125. # [18:20] <nalexander> RyanVM: about to re-land the 6 patches on beta/default, just grafted them in.
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2127. # [18:21] <froydnj> rankov: sure
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2131. # [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/58786efcdbbb - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Move imgLoader singleton management out of nsContentUtils. r=bsmedberg
2132. # [18:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/64fcbdc63ed7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Release nsLayoutStatics when the layout module is unloaded. r=bsmedberg
2133. # [18:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5dfea367b8b9 - Nick Alexander - Bug 988437 - Part 1: Allow unpickling across Android Account types; bump pickle version. r=rnewman, a=sylvestre
2134. # [18:21] <rankov> froydnj: thanks
2135. # [18:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6899f7b4f57c - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Shut down gfx at the end of layout shutdown. r=bsmedberg
2136. # [18:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/47c8852fde22 - Nick Alexander - Bug 988437 - Part 2: Make Firefox Account Android Account type unique per package. r=rnewman, a=sylvestre
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2138. # [18:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/968f7b3ff551 - Bobby Holley - Bug 913138 - Shut down imagelib at the end of layout shutdown. r=bsmedberg a=sylvestre
2139. # [18:22] <RyanVM> nalexander: perfecto :)
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2144. # [18:23] <nalexander> RyanVM: bholley's push to mozilla-aurora looks fine, and I'll be careful to push to aurora/default with my uplift too.
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2146. # [18:23] <RyanVM> nalexander: ok
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2155. # [18:27] <bholley> nalexander: thanks for doing that
2156. # [18:28] <nalexander> bholley: yw.
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2177. # [18:34] <RyanVM> dolske: ping?
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2186. # [18:38] <tetsuharu> mak: ping?
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2190. # [18:39] <Waldo> bz: Ctrl+Shift+Y
2191. # [18:39] <Waldo> er, oops, too far in scrollback
2192. # [18:39] <Waldo> bz: doesn't Alt display the menu bar still? wfm on Fedora
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2207. # [18:47] <@bz> Waldo: Checking
2208. # [18:48] <@bz> Waldo: The key labeled "alt/option" on my keyboard does not display the menu bar
2209. # [18:48] <@bz> waldo: Nor does the one labeled "command"
2210. # [18:49] <Waldo> bz: what OS are you on, exactly? I've never had problems with this on Linux, anywhere
2211. # [18:49] <@bz> Waldo: The X client is on RedHat
2212. # [18:49] <@bz> Waldo: the X server is on a Macbook
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2216. # [18:49] <@bz> Waldo: yay?
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2219. # [18:49] <Waldo> so this is Firefox running on a Mac, then?
2220. # [18:49] <@bz> Linux firefox being displayed on the mac's screen
2221. # [18:50] <Waldo> I fail
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2223. # [18:50] <Waldo> so the thingy isn't passing through the keystrokes you need to invoke, then, it sounds like
2224. # [18:50] <@bz> Or something
2225. # [18:50] <@bz> Works in other applications!
2226. # [18:50] <@bz> maybe
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2228. # [18:51] <@bz> it's hard to tell "Alt" and "Meta" apart at times
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2230. # [18:51] <Waldo> bz: I thought the client was the thing on your Mac system, the server was on the Linux box -- you sure that's the correct terms there?
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2232. # [18:51] <@bz> Cmd-x definitely gives me M-x in Emacs
2233. # [18:51] <@bz> Waldo: For X, the client is the program that's running and the server is the thing painting to the screen
2234. # [18:51] <Waldo> er
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2236. # [18:51] <@bz> Waldo: anyway, the upshot is that I sshed from my mac to the linux box
2237. # [18:52] <Waldo> yeah, I guess so
2238. # [18:52] <@bz> waldo: and then ran Firefox
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2240. # [18:52] <Waldo> stupid X nomenclature
2241. # [18:52] * @bz toggles some bits
2242. # [18:52] <@bz> Ah, here we go
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2244. # [18:52] <@bz> By default it treats Option as Mode_switch
2245. # [18:53] <@bz> Not Alt
2246. # [18:53] <@bz> Changing that frob makes it work
2247. # [18:53] <@bz> Excellent
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2260. # [18:56] <@bz> heh
2261. # [18:57] <nemo> Waldo: that happens a lot :)
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2263. # [18:57] <nemo> http://french.about.com/od/vocabulary/a/fauxamis-a.htm
2264. # [18:57] <jesup> bsmedberg: (or anyone else) How expensive is it to spawn threads on the different platforms? Should I jump through hoops to stash a Thread on the first use, or spin them up dynamically to open audio output streams (cubeb)? Typically only done on creation of a MediaStreamGraph, so pretty rare
2265. # [18:58] <jgraham> Waldo: In en-gb we adopted the simple solution of not using that word at all, let alone to mean something subtly different from its original meaning
2266. # [18:58] <@smaug> s/French/rest of the world/
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2271. # [18:59] <Waldo> jgraham: what's this I hear about the HTML group being test haters, from my primary W3C information source?
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2277. # [18:59] <@bz> Waldo: That being w3memes?
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2279. # [18:59] <Waldo> bz: you know it!
2280. # [18:59] <Archaeopteryx> bz++
2281. # [18:59] <@bz> jesup: there's a bug
2282. # [18:59] <jesup> bz: there's always a bug ;-)
2283. # [19:00] <@bz> Waldo: Seriously, if that's the source then you should realize that w3memes is mostly trolls
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2286. # [19:00] <Waldo> bz: I realize that too, but there's probably some nugget of truth there still :-)
2287. # [19:00] <@bz> jesup: A recent one
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2292. # [19:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6c260ce33c2a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 986458 - Disable browser_whitelist7.js on Win/OSX debug for perma-fails with chunked mochitest-bc.
2293. # [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/04abb7896b1d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 608820 - Disable browser_bug567127.js on Win/OSX for frequent failures.
2294. # [19:01] <@bz> Waldo: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Mar/0033.html and followups, presumably
2295. # [19:01] <nemo> bz: http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/ ?
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2298. # [19:02] <@bz> nemo: that's the one
2299. # [19:02] <Waldo> nemo: the one, the only
2300. # [19:02] <nemo> I'm rather relieved I don't get all of these
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2302. # [19:02] <nemo> must mean there's hope for me yet
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2304. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> Waldo, if you need all tests to pass in two browsers, and you can't be bothered to change browsers, the solution is easy to soo
2305. # [19:03] <jgraham> Waldo: The nugget of truth is http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20140408#l-414
2306. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> see*
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2309. # [19:04] <Waldo> jgraham: haha, that's great
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2311. # [19:04] <Waldo> nemo: quality varies quite a bit
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2313. # [19:04] <Waldo> nemo: also, to be honest, depends somewhat how petty-feeling the person posting them is at the moment, sometimes
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2315. # [19:05] <@bz> jgraham: who's cyns_ ?
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2317. # [19:05] <nemo> Waldo: hm. is the page source part of the troll?
2318. # [19:05] <Ms2ger> Cynthia Shelly?
2319. # [19:05] <@bz> ah
2320. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> Just guessing
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2322. # [19:06] * @bz has no idea what she's talking about with "windows bindings"....
2323. # [19:06] <jgraham> bz: Yeah, I would guess the same as Ms2ger
2324. # [19:06] <nemo> Waldo: doctype, script, script, another doctype, html...
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2326. # [19:06] <@bz> Fwiw, I personally don't have a problem with not testing webidl arcana
2327. # [19:06] <Waldo> nemo: I suspect that's just tumblr
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2330. # [19:06] <@bz> like toString on the proto object or whatnot
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2332. # [19:06] <@bz> since that's not specced in HTML
2333. # [19:06] <till> man, IE6 users must have nerves of steel: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/looking-at-the-web-with-internet-explorer-6-one-last-time/
2334. # [19:07] <@bz> But tests that test that you do the right things with an argument to a method HTML defines....
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2336. # [19:07] <Ms2ger> till, or no choice
2337. # [19:07] <Waldo> bz: does HTML not incorporate webidl by reference?
2338. # [19:07] <@bz> waldo: In theory
2339. # [19:07] <nemo> till: HN discussion was noting death of IE6 is rather premature. One person in health industry estimate customers using their site were 90% IE6
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2341. # [19:07] <@bz> waldo: in practice, they want to ship before webidl will
2342. # [19:07] <@bz> waldo: or something
2343. # [19:07] <till> Ms2ger: sure, but they still work where they work, so they must have nerves of steel
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2345. # [19:07] <Ms2ger> bz, "ship"
2346. # [19:07] <Waldo> better to test more specifically, to be sure, but not sure how you could have a test for webidl alone, so tests need to be in the things that use it
2347. # [19:07] <@bz> ms2ger: ;)
2348. # [19:07] <nemo> till: death of XP, premature too
2349. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> Anyway
2350. # [19:08] <jgraham> bz: So in reality what HTML needs to do is say to the director "look we didn't pass all these tests, but it's not that important anyway because they don't affect interop much and vendors think that the spec is implementable as is"
2351. # [19:08] <till> nemo: I know
2352. # [19:08] <jgraham> (that may or may not be true)
2353. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> jgraham, is not
2354. # [19:08] <jgraham> What they don't need to do is actually remove tests
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2356. # [19:09] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Whether it's true isn't really relevant
2357. # [19:09] <@bz> jgraham: totally agreed
2358. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> Sure
2359. # [19:09] <Waldo> there's never going to be a fully-passing (even in two implementations) test suite, unless the test submission process ever grows inordinately burdensome
2360. # [19:09] <nemo> till: gs.statcounter.com has XP at 17% netmarketshare (which I think weights up china) has it at 28%
2361. # [19:09] <Waldo> and implementations manage to catch up to the current state of things
2362. # [19:09] <jgraham> The W3C are determined to get HTML to Rec. this year. Our goal is to minimise the collateral damage they do in the process
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2364. # [19:09] <@bz> jgraham++
2365. # [19:09] <Waldo> both of which are doubtful to one or another degree
2366. # [19:09] <Waldo> jgraham++
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2369. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> jgraham++
2370. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> Just from general principles
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2374. # [19:11] <@smaug> jgraham: are you attending the html wg f2f ?
2375. # [19:11] <@smaug> (or webapps tomorrow)
2376. # [19:11] <jgraham> (if that wasn't the case it would be a much more serious concern that the testsuite is lacking in areas that do affect interop rather than that it is rich in areas that by-and-large don't)
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2378. # [19:11] <jgraham> smaug: No
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2380. # [19:13] <nemo> Hm. Speaking of IE6 and specs. Anyone know if I can actually start using http://www.w3.org/TR/html-picture-element/ now?
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2383. # [19:14] <jgraham> nemo: No
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2385. # [19:14] <nemo> hrm
2386. # [19:14] <nemo> jgraham: no as in, nothing uses it so it is pointless to use it, or no as in, <picture><img /></picture> would not fall back as I expect and render in a sane way
2387. # [19:14] <jgraham> nemo: Also, never use pages with /TR/ in the URL
2388. # [19:14] <nemo> ok :)
2389. # [19:14] <nemo> preeeetty sure I've used those a lot in past :-p
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2391. # [19:15] <jgraham> nemo: AFAIK no one supports it yet. I think the fallback works
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2394. # [19:15] <nemo> mm. I was thinking it'd be neat not so much for different sizes, but as a way to do <img src="foo.fmt1"><img src="foo.fmt2" /></img>
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2396. # [19:15] <nemo> which works in Firefox, but ofc is not valid.
2397. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> "work"
2398. # [19:16] <nemo> :D
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2401. # [19:17] <nemo> Ms2ger: <object data="image.fmt1"><object data="image.fmt2">sorry</object></object> I think works everywhere, but, not with identical loading/layout to <img> afaik
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2410. # [19:20] <harth> how do you skip a test on Windows debug? I'm trying this: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/file/0bf0e7b189c3/browser/devtools/eyedropper/test/browser.ini
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2412. # [19:20] <harth> and it's not skipping it
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2422. # [19:24] <damons> Anyone reporting not being able to log into google docs using beta? Been this way for about a week for me. I have to use Chrome to log in.
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2429. # [19:27] <kbrosnan> damons: working for me. -safe-mode?
2430. # [19:27] <damons> kbrosnan: checking
2431. # [19:27] <kbrosnan> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-and-diagnose-firefox-problems#w_3-restart-firefox-in-safe-mode
2432. # [19:28] <damons> kbrosnan: fails even in safe-mode
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2435. # [19:29] <damons> kbrosnan: One thing that may be different is that I use multiple google accounts. Each time that I log in, I have to choose the account that I want to use. It's this page that fails for me in Firefox. It just reloads the same "choose account" page over and over, never allowing me to actually log in with that account. Have you tried testing with multiple accounts?
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2444. # [19:32] <kbrosnan> damons: i have not, can check in a few moments
2445. # [19:33] <damons> kbrosnan: happy to help track this down. Appreciate the help. :)
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2447. # [19:33] <mkaply> So inbound is closed? Per https://treestatus.mozilla.org/ because of bug 991274?
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2483. # [19:48] <edmorley> yes
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2488. # [19:50] <kbrosnan> damons: working for me. though my beta profile is rather pristine. tested on my more dirty nightly profile worked their too. only have two google accounts.
2489. # [19:50] <damons> Hrrm.
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2491. # [19:50] <kbrosnan> might require killing any accounts.google.com cookies?
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2536. # [20:06] <nemo> hmmm
2537. # [20:06] <nemo> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/211963
2538. # [20:06] <nemo> in all fairness. memory pools aren't really that uncommon. Firefox has a ton of 'em right?
2539. # [20:07] <nemo> s/ton/several/
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2543. # [20:07] <froydnj> not really
2544. # [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2d58340206f4 - Tim Chien - Bug 963590 - [Mac] Make sure lightweight themes don't affect fullscreen toolbar height/position. r=MattN, a=sledru
2545. # [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/afdcb5d5d7cc - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 987248 - Prevent divide-by-zero in seer. r=mcmanus, a=sledru
2546. # [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b39c5ca49785 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 972684 - Don't use about:home in browser_findbar.js since it leads to intermittent failures and isn't necessary for the test. r=mikedeboer, a=test-only
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2548. # [20:08] <froydnj> well, one big arena for frames
2549. # [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/14b8222e1a24 - Edwin Flores - Bug 812881 - Ensure OMX plugins instantiate only one OMXClient instance. r=sotaro, a=sledru
2550. # [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/44a94313968a - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 979653 - Fix dir attribute checks for url field in rtl mode. r=ehsan, a=sledru
2551. # [20:08] <froydnj> and the nss/ssl code likes to use arena badly
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2558. # [20:12] <nemo> hm. does firebot announce *all* beta pushes?
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2560. # [20:13] <nemo> froydnj: omg more irresponsible SSL programmers! :-p
2561. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> nemo, unless they're in a too-big push, I'd expect yes
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2563. # [20:14] <nemo> that's what I was wondering. I don't recall him being as spammy as I'd expect beta to be
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2566. # [20:14] <@bz> beta is pretty low-traffic
2567. # [20:14] <@bz> Note that firebot announces inbound pushes too!
2568. # [20:14] <@bz> Which is way way more than beta, obviously
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2588. # [20:20] <grobinson> MattN: ping
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2610. # [20:31] <Mossop> So how do you add a new xpcshell test these days?
2611. # [20:31] <Ms2ger> Add it to the manifest
2612. # [20:31] <Mossop> Ok, and then?
2613. # [20:32] <Ms2ger> Done
2614. # [20:32] <froydnj> is that really all there is, bob?
2615. # [20:33] <Mossop> Ok, so why does mach tell me it doesn't know about my test?
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2617. # [20:33] <jcranmer|away> if you're not on comm-central
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2619. # [20:33] <jcranmer|away> and you use mach xpcshell-test
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2627. # [20:37] <Mossop> Maybe I'll try a full rebuild
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2633. # [20:39] <Mossop> Nope
2634. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> Mossop, that should work. Are you sure the path is right?
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2636. # [20:39] <Mossop> Ms2ger: Replacing the name of my test with another in the same directory works
2637. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> gps, ^
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2645. # [20:43] <nemo> hm
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2648. # [20:43] <nemo> so.... with the bad craziness that could result from like 20% of web having had their certs stolen...
2649. # [20:44] <Mossop> Ah there it is. I had to touch the xpcshell.ini manifest, not the manifest that actually declares the tests
2650. # [20:44] <nemo> OCSP stapling. does that protect me?
2651. # [20:44] <nemo> do all cert presentations have to do it in firefox now?
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2653. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> Mossop, huh? An include involved, perhaps?
2654. # [20:45] <Mossop> Ms2ger: Yep
2655. # [20:45] <Ms2ger> Mossop, want to file?
2656. # [20:45] <Mossop> No but I will
2657. # [20:45] <Ms2ger> Fair enough :)
2658. # [20:45] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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2664. # [20:47] <Mossop> bug 994255
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2666. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> <6000...
2667. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> Mossop, <3
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2747. # [21:30] <@bz> er...
2748. # [21:30] <@bz> so this permafail started on old changesets too?
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2752. # [21:32] <philor> bz: should have, yeah, it's something along the lines of either "the slaves are messed up so we can't create a directory in /tmp" or more likely "we've created 10K directories without cleaning them up, and now createunique fails"
2753. # [21:33] <@bz> I see
2754. # [21:33] <@bz> ok
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2766. # [21:38] <jmaher> myk: ping
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2770. # [21:39] <myk> jmaher: pong
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2773. # [21:40] <jmaher> myk: I see you reviewed some teests for webapps, specifically test_hosted.xul
2774. # [21:40] <jmaher> from bug 898647
2775. # [21:40] <jmaher> myk: those tests are failing and causing the trees to close
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2778. # [21:41] <myk> jmaher: looking…
2779. # [21:41] <jmaher> I have debugged the tests and we are trying to create a desktopINI file in ~/.local/share/applications
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2781. # [21:41] <jmaher> myk: here is where we set the value for desktopINI: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/webapps/tests/test_hosted.xul#67
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2783. # [21:42] <jmaher> the problem on our ec2 machines is the directory ~/.local/share/applications doesn't exist
2784. # [21:42] <myk> jmaher: bug 991274 is the test failure bug?
2785. # [21:42] <RyanVM> yes
2786. # [21:42] <jmaher> thanks
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2788. # [21:43] * myk then finds bug 994216
2789. # [21:43] <jmaher> myk: probably the same
2790. # [21:43] <myk> jmaher: it looks like marco is engaged and working on the problem; would you like to disable the test in the meantime?
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2792. # [21:44] <Waldo> ehsan: pong
2793. # [21:44] <myk> jmaher: or is there something i can do to expedite a fix?
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2795. # [21:44] <jmaher> myk: I didn't know if you knew why we needed to put things in the application subdir?
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2797. # [21:45] <jmaher> or if there was a way to create the subdir if it doesn't exist
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2799. # [21:45] <jmaher> RyanVM: feel free to weigh in on urgency here
2800. # [21:45] <RyanVM> seemed like progress was being made finding the root cause?
2801. # [21:46] <jmaher> yeah, for the most part
2802. # [21:46] <RyanVM> I'd rather hold off on disabling unless it's becoming apparent that we're not figuring out what's going on any time soon
2803. # [21:47] <myk> jmaher: the "desktop entry" file in question does a few different things and is how we install webapps on linux in a way that makes them look/feel like native apps; here's a reference that explains the purpose of the file: http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/
2804. # [21:47] <dholbert> terrence, ping
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2806. # [21:47] <terrence> dholbert: pong
2807. # [21:47] * jmaher reads!
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2809. # [21:48] <@ehsan> Waldo: hey! did you see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991710#c6?
2810. # [21:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1b3aa5eb0e9b - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
2811. # [21:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/335c5e552ff4 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 7 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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2813. # [21:48] <Waldo> ehsan: very briefly
2814. # [21:48] <Waldo> ehsan: um
2815. # [21:48] <jmaher> myk: is there a way in the tests or the nativeapp.install to ensure the directory exists?
2816. # [21:48] <@ehsan> ok so we need to fix this soon
2817. # [21:48] <jmaher> myk: I don't think it is a permission thing
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2820. # [21:49] <Waldo> ehsan: probably should look into whether any of the three-ish different NSPR replacement patches people have done for JS provide enough rope for this
2821. # [21:49] <myk> jmaher: yes, we should be able to conditionally create the directory tree
2822. # [21:49] <jmaher> myk: should we do that in the tests, or modify the nativeapp object?
2823. # [21:49] <terrence> Waldo: yes
2824. # [21:50] <terrence> Waldo: including an efficient implemention of thread id on platforms that don't have one natively
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2826. # [21:50] <@ehsan> Waldo: fwiw I don't think we need to wait for an NSPR replacement here, all we need is one function which gives you the current thread right?
2827. # [21:50] <Waldo> ehsan: yes, I'm saying steal those bits out of it
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2829. # [21:50] <@ehsan> oh ok
2830. # [21:50] <Waldo> at least assuming I understand the problem correctly
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2832. # [21:50] <@ehsan> yeah I think you do!
2833. # [21:51] <dholbert> terrence, looks like there may have been a small regression on a bunch of talos tests from one of your pushes in the last ~day, I think
2834. # [21:51] <dholbert> terrence, (specifically, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=984101 or https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=992535 )
2835. # [21:51] <myk> jmaher: at first glance, i would modify _createSystemFiles in LinuxNativeApp.js <http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/webapps/LinuxNativeApp.js#273>; i think that's what's failing
2836. # [21:51] <terrence> dholbert: yeah, 3-5%
2837. # [21:51] <terrence> dholbert: I have a fix with checkin-needed
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2839. # [21:51] <jmaher> dholbert: terrence: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04a44359d024
2840. # [21:51] <jmaher> that regressed v8, kraken, and some dromaeo on a few platforms
2841. # [21:51] <@ehsan> Waldo: can you please let either me or khuey|away know when you've found an owner for this?
2842. # [21:52] <jmaher> I half investigated it until the webapp test failure needed attention
2843. # [21:52] <terrence> jmaher: are you sure that's the regression and not the patch I landed directly after it?
2844. # [21:53] <dholbert> terrence, (I got a bunch of talos mail for having pushed in the same guilty-range, but from skimming the guilty-range & the regressions, I'm betting it's a JS regession, since it affected Kraken and V8 talos tests [among others])
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2846. # [21:53] <jmaher> terrence: I half investigated it- so i am not 100% sure, nor which tests/platforms
2847. # [21:53] <Waldo> ehsan: sure
2848. # [21:53] <@ehsan> thanks a lot!
2849. # [21:53] <jmaher> terrence: I think it is the second push: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2adda06f871
2850. # [21:53] <terrence> dholbert: oh, it's absolutely my regression
2851. # [21:54] <terrence> jmaher: it would make a lot more sense
2852. # [21:54] <jmaher> dholbert: terrence: if you file a bug, please cc me, I can provide more detailed links to what tests specifically regressed/improved
2853. # [21:54] <jmaher> otherwise i will get a bug filed probably first thing in the morning
2854. # [21:54] <jmaher> need another 30 minutes to hack on it
2855. # [21:54] <terrence> jmaher: should be fixed as soon as the follow-up goes in
2856. # [21:55] <terrence> jmaher: if it's not it relates to the new nursery poisoning
2857. # [21:55] <terrence> jmaher: in which case we should probably just accept the regression, as poisoning is incredibly useful
2858. # [21:55] <jmaher> terrence: oh, please cc me on the followup then, I will just check in on it 12 hours after that goes in :)
2859. # [21:55] <myk> jmaher: i'll make a suggestion in bug 994216
2860. # [21:55] <jmaher> myk: thanks
2861. # [21:55] <jmaher> myk: I have added my investigations in that bug
2862. # [21:55] <terrence> jmaher: it's the same bug: bug 984101
2863. # [21:56] <dchan> is there a xpcom module I could use to get raw sockets
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2865. # [21:56] <jmaher> thanks terrence
2866. # [21:56] <terrence> jmaher: np!
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2868. # [21:57] <dholbert> terrence, cool. Just wanted to make sure you were aware, before I redirected my emails to /dev/null. :)
2869. # [21:57] <terrence> dholbert: thanks!
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2873. # [21:58] <Waldo> terrence: so it looks like extracting just the Thread::current() bits out of bug 956899 is pretty trivial -- you want to review if I push that out quickly, since you've looked at this stuff semi-recently?
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2877. # [21:58] <terrence> Waldo: sure
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2882. # [21:58] <sicking> errr
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2890. # [22:02] <myk> jmaher: and now i'll create a patch and ask marco for review
2891. # [22:02] <jmaher> myk: you are even more awesome
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2893. # [22:03] <jmaher> myk: anyway I could get a nativeapp.jsm and test it on my slave?
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2897. # [22:04] <myk> jmaher: erm, you mean a version of LinuxNativeApp.js with my change applied?
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2900. # [22:05] <jmaher> myk: sure, I assume that is bundled up somehow?
2901. # [22:05] <jmaher> I could just build it locally
2902. # [22:05] <jmaher> I have linux64
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2909. # [22:07] <myk> jmaher: i've just made the change in a local git clone; i can pastebin or email you the file or point you at the (git) branch; which would you prefer?
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2913. # [22:08] <jmaher> myk: either way, a link to the git repo is fine
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2919. # [22:09] <myk> jmaher: here's the branch: https://github.com/mykmelez/gecko-dev/tree/bug-994216
2920. # [22:10] <myk> jmaher: and here's the file that i changed: https://github.com/mykmelez/gecko-dev/blob/bug-994216/toolkit/webapps/LinuxNativeApp.js
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2924. # [22:10] <myk> jmaher: i'm building with the change now, after which i'll test it
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2927. # [22:11] <jmaher> myk: cool, I am building as well- had to do a clobber, then will test
2928. # [22:12] <myk> jmaher: i also had to clobber; haven't built in this particular VM for a bit
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2966. # [22:26] <catlee> I really love how firefox is losing my sessionstore on crash now
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2973. # [22:28] <Waldo> anybody: what are the guesstimates for how long it would take to spawn 2**32 threads on a Linux system, if one were doing nothing but spawning threads that immediately killed themselves, constantly?
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2978. # [22:30] <jesup> catlee: that would be horrible. SessionManager and checkpoint once in a while perhaps...
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2999. # [22:35] <jld> Waldo: ./a.out 1000000 1.59s user 13.49s system 199% cpu 7.560 total
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3002. # [22:36] <jld> Waldo: So, a few hours, depending on how many CPUs there are.
3003. # [22:37] <Waldo> so, basically it's feasible to do in a not-crazy amount of time, then :-)
3004. # [22:37] <jld> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4780784 for reference
3005. # [22:37] <Waldo> as it happens it sounds like I have a better way to do what I'm doing, but good to know
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3013. # [22:40] <Waldo> wonder why the prior art here (for a Thread::current() function returning a thread identifier) was using a pointer-sized value atomic counter, rather than pthread_self()
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3023. # [22:45] <jmaher> myk: my build isn't working on the machine- where does this nativeapp stuff live? in omni.ja or something?
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3025. # [22:46] <h4writer> RyanVM, ping
3026. # [22:46] <h4writer> or the sheriff on duty
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3030. # [22:47] <RyanVM> h4writer: hi
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3033. # [22:48] <jmaher> myk: yes, it is in omni.ja- and your patch fixes the problem
3034. # [22:48] <h4writer> RyanVM, I come online after seeing the needinfo on bug 944392
3035. # [22:48] <myk> jmaher: woot!
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3037. # [22:49] <h4writer> RyanVM, for the Gi red?
3038. # [22:49] <myk> jmaher: my build is still building
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3041. # [22:49] <RyanVM> h4writer: yeah, for some reason the wrong build got retriggered on your push
3042. # [22:49] <RyanVM> so I'm waiting on the test results now
3043. # [22:49] <RyanVM> should know in the next 5min ors o
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3045. # [22:49] <h4writer> RyanVM, I think it shouldn't be caused by it
3046. # [22:50] <RyanVM> we'll know soon enough
3047. # [22:50] <h4writer> RyanVM, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=55f3b3c1f217 is the try push
3048. # [22:50] <h4writer> RyanVM, which is green
3049. # [22:50] <RyanVM> if that's the case, it's going to get a lost messier
3050. # [22:50] <RyanVM> lot*
3051. # [22:51] <RyanVM> h4writer: btw, links to recent try pushes in bugs are always a good idea
3052. # [22:51] <RyanVM> for just such situations
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3054. # [22:51] <h4writer> RyanVM, I see. But since it was on a bad parent, I didn't include ...
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3061. # [22:52] <h4writer> RyanVM, but I saw jandem starting to take this approach and I'll mimic him ;)
3062. # [22:53] <RyanVM> especially if it's likely you won't be in contact by the time your results are coming in, it's appreciated :)
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3071. # [22:55] <h4writer> RyanVM, I was online for 2 hours after the push
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3073. # [22:55] <RyanVM> like I was saying... ;) :P
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3077. # [22:56] * h4writer writes down to only push in the morning anymore ...
3078. # [22:57] <RyanVM> :)
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3080. # [22:57] <RyanVM> like I said, a Try link would have been fine too :)
3081. # [22:57] <RyanVM> I'm not yelling at you for pushing later
3082. # [22:57] <h4writer> RyanVM, yeah I wrote that down too ;).
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3086. # [22:58] <h4writer> RyanVM, anything to make sure I'm not the reason for a closed tree (even if it is possibly not caused by me ;))
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3088. # [22:59] <RyanVM> well, you're not the *only* reason for the current one :P
3089. # [22:59] <h4writer> RyanVM, yeah I saw ;)
3090. # [22:59] <h4writer> RyanVM, that's the lucky part, I guess?
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3098. # [23:03] <RyanVM> h4writer: green
3099. # [23:03] <RyanVM> poop
3100. # [23:03] <Ms2ger> Is that RyanVM's kid?
3101. # [23:03] <h4writer> RyanVM, \0/ (at least for me, since you were saying that would make it messier for you)
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3107. # [23:04] <h4writer> RyanVM, although I don't see the green myself. The Gi disappeared for me
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3111. # [23:06] <h4writer> ah there it is :D
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3123. # [23:09] <RyanVM> myk, I need to head out soon
3124. # [23:09] <RyanVM> myk: when you're ready with the fix, please push directly to m-c
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3126. # [23:09] <RyanVM> we can merge it around once it's green there
3127. # [23:09] <myk> RyanVM: ok, will do; but note that i'm only around for another three hours
3128. # [23:09] <myk> RyanVM: so i can't watch the tree longer than that
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3131. # [23:10] <RyanVM> i'll be back by then
3132. # [23:10] <RyanVM> so I can watch again
3133. # [23:10] <myk> cool
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3136. # [23:13] <@smaug> how useful. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37524941&tree=Try&full=1#error0 tells that there is some unexpected assertion, but doesn't tell what that is
3137. # [23:14] * philor pulls on his I Told You So tshirt
3138. # [23:14] <philor> smaug: should in theory be down in the logcat spew at the end of the log
3139. # [23:15] <philor> though in fact, that test doesn't seem to be down there at all
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3141. # [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/635f912b3164 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 963962 - Fix use of CreateDrawTargetForData in CanvasLayerD3D9/10. r=Bas, a=sledru
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3154. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/690c810c8e3e - Myk Melez - Bug 994216 - ensure desktop INI file parent directory exists to fix bustage on CLOSED TREE; r=marco"
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3159. # [23:26] <NeilAway> hmm, if you knew that threads always had stacks of size 2^n with 2^n alignment then you could use the base of the stack as the thread id ;-)
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3173. # [23:28] <nemo> does OCSP stapling mean Firefox is protected against the recent heartbleed mess?
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3175. # [23:29] <nemo> that is, if someone attempts to MitM me when I'm using Firefox, they will be unable to present a cert Firefox would accept, even if they stole the cert a few days ago?
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3177. # [23:29] <Mossop> Protected in what way? The bug is server-side, if you're talking to a server that contains the bug then any data you send is potentially compromised
3178. # [23:29] <nemo> no
3179. # [23:29] <nemo> Mossop: I mean. server is patched, bug is fixed, server replaced their cert
3180. # [23:30] <nemo> but the old cert was stolen by a few thousand people in the interim
3181. # [23:30] <Mossop> It depends if the cert is issued by a CA that supports OCSP and if they have revoked it
3182. # [23:30] <nemo> Mossop: ok. let's assume they did
3183. # [23:30] <nemo> Mossop: in past, OCSP was useless unless you set security.OCSP.require = true
3184. # [23:30] <nemo> since anyone actually MitMing you would prevent access to the OCSP servers
3185. # [23:31] <nemo> Mossop: with stapling, burden is supposedly on the server
3186. # [23:31] <nemo> Mossop: so... I guess the issue is that these would have to be stapling compatible certs, and those aren't very prevalent yet? :-/
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3189. # [23:32] <nemo> Also. Is anyone aware of an addon to warn me if a site has not patched heartbleed?
3190. # [23:32] <nemo> By attempting the bug...
3191. # [23:33] <nemo> quick search of AMO for heartbleed turned up squat
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3203. # [23:37] <catlee> myk: thanks!
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