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7. # [00:03] <@dbaron> I want a make target for making the stuff I've added in mochitest.ini runnable, *without* rebuilding
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9. # [00:04] <@dbaron> so that I can run a test I've just written before my changes
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11. # [00:05] <@dbaron> this used to work if I just built in the test directory, but it no longer does
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17. # [00:11] <@dbaron> gps, ^
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20. # [00:13] <@dbaron> oh, well, waiting for a full client.mk rebuild it is, along with an unnecessary libxul relink
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22. # [00:13] <@khuey> I would like bug 988169 to be fixed
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24. # [00:13] <@khuey> since we're making a christmas list ;-)
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52. # [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e0e519805ab - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 992274 (part 1) - Tweak an edge case in line number handling. r=jorendorff.
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64. # [00:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0311212b4205 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 995754 - Remove nsIDOMToString; r=bzbarsky
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101. # [01:39] <heycam> funky new doorhanger animation
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105. # [01:46] <idwer> what's a doorhanger?
106. # [01:46] <idwer> right
107. # [01:47] <Unfocused> well, there goes the rest of my day
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109. # [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/93dceafcb1e6 - Mike Conley - Bug 995161 - Customize mode can still break after bootstrapped add-on with custom legacy:true toolbar restarts. r=Gijs.
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148. # [02:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb6713d8c5eb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d610b0d353d4 (bug 995757) for bustage.
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190. # [03:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/df414731bc97 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 971034 - adjust min-height of zoom control reset button only, r=jaws
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192. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/915700dc5198 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Backed out changeset 9d3d5c2225aa (bug 971034) for stretching all the icons when navbar includes add-ons with overly large toolbar icons, a=backout,
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233. # [03:45] <Unfocused> er
234. # [03:45] <Unfocused> that's a lot of rubber stamps
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250. # [03:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d51c091a7eb3 - Ben Tian - Bug 993278 - [bluedroid][HFP] Respond OK even if subscriber number information is empty, r=echou
251. # [03:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/acfcf0cfe6bd - Ben Tian - Bug 993275 - [Bluedroid] Ensure icon for audio service devices, r=echou
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288. # [04:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7348f3d4ec58 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 989728 - [B2G] [RIL] split test_conference.js into smaller pieces to avoid timeout failure. r=vicamo
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290. # [04:32] <heycam> I am incapable of learning that mach doesn't like "--help"
291. # [04:32] <sfink> same here
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294. # [04:33] <@roc> I'm sure gps would accept a patch
295. # [04:34] <heycam> total cumulative time I spend re-running mach with "help" instead might still be less than that required to write a patch :)
296. # [04:34] <@roc> not if you sum over all Mozilla contributors :-)
297. # [04:34] <heycam> I assumed I was an outlier :)
298. # [04:35] <Unfocused> you're not
299. # [04:35] <heycam> at least I don't get the paper clip shaming me any more
300. # [04:36] <jesup> Me too (--help)
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302. # [04:38] <heycam> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=995847
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313. # [04:47] <nrc> heycam: please implement Clippy for mach, that would be amazing
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315. # [04:47] <nrc> "it looks like you want to build Firefox..."
316. # [04:48] <heycam> nrc, you know mach used to have clippy right? well, just an ASCII art picture of it when you mistyped a command.
317. # [04:48] <heycam> I would even put up with a picture of clippy if it automatically translated |mach buld| into |mach build| for me
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320. # [04:49] <nrc> heycam: really? That is awesome. If I had known that, I might have used it
321. # [04:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c92387888501 - Randell Jesup - Bug 992436 - Force wakelock in B2G mochitests to reduce timeouts. r=jgriffin
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325. # [04:53] <jesup> nrc: So long as it doesn't include Bob...
326. # [04:53] * jesup wonders if anyone working at Moz would admit to running Bob
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328. # [04:54] <nrc> jesup: even better!
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331. # [04:55] * @roc wonders if anyone working at Moz would admit to being old enough to know what Bob is
332. # [04:55] <dmajor> can we get a siri? maybe it can provide empathy when my build fails
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338. # [05:01] <Unfocused> pfft, we had Ubiquity before Siri existed :P
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348. # [05:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b074e386a410 - Mark Hammond - Bug 990834 (part 3) - Fix handling of hawk errors. r=ckarlof, a=sylvestre
349. # [05:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/329a2a180a8b - Mark Hammond - Bug 990834 (part 2) - Add support/tweak retry and backoff header support to hawk and tokenserverclient. r=rnewman, a=sylvestre
350. # [05:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/deb83f2f75fa - Mark Hammond - Bug 990834 (part 1) - minor refactor of hawk tests. r=ckarlof, a=sylvestre
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356. # [05:26] <@dbaron> roc, Microsoft Bob?
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360. # [05:29] <@njn> uphill, both ways
361. # [05:30] <@dbaron> hey, my walk to high school was uphill both ways (but only the latter 90% / 10%, depending on direction, of course)
362. # [05:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/aceaa8a71ba4 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
363. # [05:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f15b1e8be5db - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
364. # [05:32] <@roc> dbaron: yes
365. # [05:38] <@dbaron> roc, btw, curious if you have strong opinions about which windows should have transparent bits in a canvas drawWindow call (transparent to the backing color passed to drawwindow, or further if that's transparent)
366. # [05:39] <@dbaron> roc, currently it seems that frames reliably have transparent bits, toplevel documents inside browser chrome have white backing *except on B2G*, and toplevel chrome windows have transparent bits (didn't test Android/B2G for that case though)
367. # [05:39] <@roc> that's what I'd expect
368. # [05:39] <@roc> we should fix the B2G case somehow
369. # [05:40] <@dbaron> roc, though it's possible that window.open in a b2g mochitest produces something more like a chrome window
370. # [05:40] <@roc> toplevel content windows get a solid color set via the presshell
371. # [05:40] <@dbaron> I'm not sure how the b2g mochitest harness differs from the browser
372. # [05:40] <@dbaron> anyway, some tests > no tests
373. # [05:41] <mattwoodrow> b2g is a bit weird because we don’t get actual windows do we?
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376. # [05:42] * @dbaron isn't sure what an "actual window" even is :-)
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379. # [05:43] <mattwoodrow> nsIWidget I guess?
380. # [05:44] <mattwoodrow> I’m pretty sure we only get one of those in the root process
381. # [05:44] <mattwoodrow> and I think ‘new window’ requests from JS get turned into new tabs
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386. # [05:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a1315c30090 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 7dbcb63aa3e3 (bug 774144) for frequent Android mochitest-4 failures.
387. # [05:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93caa1abf5a3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d0012e4d8a9a (bug 991766)
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391. # [05:48] <mgs> I'm trying to build xulrunner (and firefox) on osx for X11, I found a bunch of files in dom/plugins where it uses XP_MACOSX to determine between cocoa and x11 backends. I went through by hand and tried to figure out which of these could be switched to MOZ_WIDGET_COCOA and now those sections seem to be building fine. I run into problems later in my build though because WebRTC and
392. # [05:48] <mgs> MediaNavigator are being built despite my --disable-webrtc and --disable-media-navigator flags in mozconfig.
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395. # [05:50] <jesup> mgs: webrtc shouldn't be built if it's --disable-webrtc -- however, it doesn't build in general (at least on Linux) if you --disable-webrtc at the moment (the libyuv move caused this)
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398. # [05:52] <mgs> hm
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400. # [05:52] <mgs> the only reason I'm not building webrtc is because it fails too, haha. :)
401. # [05:53] <jesup> no surprise there
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404. # [05:54] <jesup> though resolving that means looking at the gyp files, and also we try to limit the scope of surgery on the webrtc.org code to stuff we hope to uplift. (code in media/webrtc/trunk, and especially media/webrtc/trunk/webrtc
405. # [05:55] <mgs> I guess I need to figure out why MediaNavigator.cpp is even getting read
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407. # [05:56] <mgs> does mach provide anything for helping me figure out what is pulling what things in?
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414. # [06:14] <jesup> mgs: not that I know of, but you can still use make -f client.mk
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429. # [06:42] <@njn> where is Cu.import defined?
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431. # [06:42] <@njn> or implemented?
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433. # [06:44] <markh> njn: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCComponents.cpp#2722 I believe
434. # [06:45] <@njn> markh: thanks!
435. # [06:45] <@njn> markh: and that calls onto mozJSComponentLoader::Import, great
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438. # [06:57] <Unfocused> njn: oh, which reminds me... bug 986108 and bug 986107 will now let us accurately tell which add-on a sandbox is associated with, without having to guess from the URL
439. # [06:58] <@njn> Unfocused: cool. Will anything need to be changed in the memory reporting code?
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441. # [06:59] <Unfocused> dunno, haven't thought that far ahead yet :)
442. # [07:02] <Unfocused> well, i mean, yes - it's new metadata, separate from mapURIToAddon, i just haven't thought about *what* needs changed
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468. # [07:19] <@dbaron> so, the b2g mochitest-7 situation seems worse than before following rjesup's patch?
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471. # [07:21] <@dbaron> although it oddly seems like it got better on its own just before rjesup's landing
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473. # [07:22] <@dbaron> could https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b026cd9460ed have fixed it somehow?
474. # [07:23] <nigelb> dbaron: wasn't that backed out?
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476. # [07:23] <@dbaron> nigelb, it looks like only one of the 4 cset's in ehsan's push was backed out
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480. # [07:25] <nigelb> dbaron: Right, but I thought the commit you linked is the one cset that was backed out. I could be reading it wrong.
481. # [07:25] <@dbaron> no, d610 was backed out
482. # [07:25] <@dbaron> not b026
483. # [07:26] <@dbaron> oh, wait, b026 was backed out the next cycle
484. # [07:26] <@dbaron> right
485. # [07:27] <nigelb> I missed the d610 before it, the one you were seeing.
486. # [07:27] <nigelb> sigh. monday.
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493. # [07:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning guys
494. # [07:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning dbaron, nigelb, yeah watching the tree for the m7 thing
495. # [07:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ryan emailed me
496. # [07:39] <aja> heycam: ping
497. # [07:39] <heycam> aja, hi
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499. # [07:40] <aja> heycam: saw you landed a patch with something in the title about transitions not working with --vars?
500. # [07:41] <aja> heyam: at all? or during 1st pass, or ?
501. # [07:41] <heycam> aja, yes, avoiding an assertion when you attempt to transition/animate a css variable
502. # [07:41] <heycam> eventually they should transition/animate like other properties for which special animation behaviour is not defined
503. # [07:41] <heycam> but that's a broader problem that needs fixing afaik
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505. # [07:42] <aja> k...temporary situation till fixed....will avoid that in my testing for now then
506. # [07:42] <nigelb> Morning Tomcat|sheriffduty
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511. # [07:46] <@njn> oh, the latter calls the former
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527. # [08:12] <nattokirai> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hiya. so we're waiting to see what happens with more B2G m7 runs?
528. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nattokirai: yeah
529. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Inbound's closed until B2G M7 is resolved.
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531. # [08:13] <nattokirai> looks green on the m-c push...
532. # [08:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but the first results became green
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534. # [08:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah checking the other retriggeres and if they come back
535. # [08:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> green
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538. # [08:14] <nattokirai> ok
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546. # [08:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f498607e3568 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
547. # [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c829b778b4d9 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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551. # [08:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm nattokirai too bad the m7 on the latest push went orange again :(
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553. # [08:29] <nattokirai> drat, double drat!
554. # [08:29] <nattokirai> at this point have all of ehsan's patches been backed out?
555. # [08:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah i think so
556. # [08:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> next culprint might be bug 886110
557. # [08:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> at least ryan started a try run https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=417437b07d7e
558. # [08:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thats the cset prior
559. # [08:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=ec8cdd2bb135 the 886110 cset)
560. # [08:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and my nightly crashed :(
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566. # [08:40] <jesup> b2g debug emulator sucks dead gerbils through garden hoses
567. # [08:41] <jesup> +1 if anyone gets the reference... ;-)
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575. # [08:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jesup: sigh also the backout from bug 866110 didn't help - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=417437b07d7e
576. # [08:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> try has same error
577. # [08:45] <jesup> dbaron likely was right - the breakdown of what test is in what M* changed
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579. # [08:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jesup: hm so backout of bug 946065 ?
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583. # [08:47] <jesup> Dunno, but it's worth a Try. I don't think there's much left to try (though I haven't followed every patch; busy with other stuff)
584. # [08:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
585. # [08:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> according to ryan's note there was the hope the pushes he did fix the issue or the try run he did
586. # [08:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and none worked :(
587. # [08:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so doing the backout now
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593. # [08:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok pushed, lets see
594. # [08:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c139817cf24 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset c2350812b7f1 (bug 946065) hoping this fix the B2G mochitest-7 perma-fail on a CLOSED TREE
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596. # [08:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c153aa5be108 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 6a0290190c1b (bug 946065)
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633. # [09:20] <ioana> hi guys
634. # [09:20] <ioana> could anyone here explain to me what the difference between modal and non-modal dialogs is?
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637. # [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ioana: something like non-modal (meaning that it's still possible to interact with content outside of the dialog) or modal (meaning that only the content in the dialog can be interacted with).
638. # [09:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/aafa0d0e1215 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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641. # [09:23] <heftig> ioana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window
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644. # [09:28] <ioana> thanks guys :)
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648. # [09:34] <Optimizer> is building with visual c++ 2012/13 faster than 2010 ?
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651. # [09:38] <Optimizer> can we still not build firefox for windows phone ?
652. # [09:39] <Optimizer> UC browser has windows phone version
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714. # [10:40] <hsivonen> is Thunderbird supposed to be buildable with clang on Linux?
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719. # [10:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ecddbe3d0dbf - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
720. # [10:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/95357ab4ea7e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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722. # [10:44] <Standard8> hsivonen: that's what the tbpl builders do ;-)
723. # [10:45] <hsivonen> Standard8: ok. I'll try again
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765. # [11:13] <hsivonen> oh great. Thunderbird build want to build some C-based Python modules
766. # [11:13] * hsivonen wonders what mozconfig incantations can stop that
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808. # [12:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9e92a6a293fa - Marco Bonardo - bug 970291 - Remove BookmarkJSONUtils.serializeNodeAsJSONToOutputStream. r=mano
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835. # [12:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83d0d281cfbc - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset ce623d85f0c4 (bug 886110) for hoping this resolve the m7 b2g-ics permanent failure on a CLOSED TREE
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856. # [12:39] <tn> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it looks like the m7 failure was fixed by 5c13
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858. # [12:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tn: not really :(
859. # [12:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37741292&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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861. # [12:41] <tn> Tomcat|sheriffduty: 1 out of six is no longer perm failure
862. # [12:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: Ms2ger ^
863. # [12:42] <tn> its not great though
864. # [12:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7bbd4530222a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
865. # [12:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b653bfdcc3c1 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
866. # [12:43] <tn> how does the frequency compare to before it became perm?
867. # [12:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> well like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=417437b07d7e as example
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872. # [12:46] <tn> Tomcat|sheriffduty: okay, hopefully the latest backout fixes it
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874. # [12:46] <tn> Tomcat|sheriffduty: what abotu the new crashtest orange?
875. # [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> working on a backout patch
876. # [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> was a conflicting patch that was patched in during the checkin needed ones
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879. # [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tn: https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/4797888
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881. # [12:49] <tn> ah, i see, sucks when that happens
882. # [12:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah backing out manually now :)
883. # [12:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good thing is that is this only a small patch :)
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902. # [12:57] <jackneill> so its a pretty easy first bug
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949. # [12:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e83d29d7f6b - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 8b8fa0cf1e2f (Bug 994740 ) for causing crashtest failures on a CLOSED TREE
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958. # [13:00] <aleth> jackneill: Do you have any questions about it?
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967. # [13:01] <jackneill> aleth: what question, practically everything i need to do is on the comment
968. # [13:01] <aleth> Right, exactly.
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975. # [13:02] <jackneill> aleth: this will be my first bug, should i log in to bugzilla and comment on the bug that i will take it?
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981. # [13:03] <aleth> Yes, do create a BMO account, but instead of commenting, ping bsmedberg who is listed as the mentor for the bug.
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988. # [13:04] <aleth> Or of course you can just fix it and attach a patch and request review ;)
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992. # [13:04] <jackneill> aleth: well already commented but ok
993. # [13:05] <aleth> No problem
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996. # [13:05] <jackneill> ping him? he is no in irc
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998. # [13:05] <aleth> Maybe due to timezones. Now you have commented I think that will also reach him...
999. # [13:05] <Ms2ger> It's somewhat early for him
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1002. # [13:06] <jackneill> Ok, i will just excitedly start working on my first bug.
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1005. # [13:06] <aleth> Great :)
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1036. # [13:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e2aff2cd9a9a - Marco Bonardo - bug 959573 - Land UnifiedAutocomplete (disabled by default). rs=ttaubert
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1039. # [13:12] <@smaug> why would a crashtest fail with 'load failed: null' ?
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1048. # [13:14] <jonco> who's a good person to talk to about problems building the browser on windows?
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1059. # [13:16] <jackneill> aleth sorry to bother you with this but: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central i can clone this with hg to get started or is it okay to just git clone git@github.com:mozilla/gecko-dev.git
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1062. # [13:16] <jackneill> i searched github repo for the nsIAllocator.h and it has too, so it contains mozilla-central, also i have experience with git, but not with hg
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1067. # [13:17] <aleth> jackneill: You'll probably find it easier in the long run to use hg for work on m-c.
1068. # [13:17] <aleth> It's very similar to git so it's not hard to learn.
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1072. # [13:18] <jackneill> aleth: ok
1073. # [13:18] <bagder> I actually found the similar-but-yet-different to be highly annoying and went git completely instead
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1078. # [13:19] <aleth> jackneill: This might be helpful https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mercurial_FAQ
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1082. # [13:20] <jackneill> aleth: yeah thanks
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1087. # [13:20] <esawin> since you will only produce patches, there isn't really that much you really need to learn about hg to be productive.
1088. # [13:20] <aleth> Generally, use whatever makes you productive ;)
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1091. # [13:20] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: whaat
1092. # [13:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey smaug
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1095. # [13:21] <@smaug> the test for bug 994740 started to fail after some backout
1096. # [13:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess another patch that Ms2ger checked in changed some file locations or so
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1102. # [13:22] <@smaug> it started to fail after RyanVM's backouts
1103. # [13:22] <@smaug> er, no
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1105. # [13:22] <@smaug> after your backouts
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1108. # [13:22] <till> jackneill: this is also really useful https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/How_to_Submit_a_Patch
1109. # [13:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
1110. # [13:22] <@smaug> bug 946065
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1114. # [13:23] <jackneill> till yeah i will read after the basic hg stuff
1115. # [13:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: yeah and backout from your patch failed then due to https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/4797888
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1117. # [13:23] <jackneill> while hg is cloning
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1122. # [13:24] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: aha
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1124. # [13:25] <@smaug> ok, so I could land my patch after tree is green again
1125. # [13:26] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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1129. # [13:27] <jackneill> does hg have branches? or when i create a patch the changes will be auto from the latest commit?
1130. # [13:28] <aleth> jackneill: You probably want to use mercurial queues
1131. # [13:28] <esawin> jackneill: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mercurial_Queues
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1133. # [13:28] <evilpie> is something wrong, or is somebody going to merge inbound?
1134. # [13:29] <aleth> jackneill: hg does have branches, but they are not the same as git branches. hg bookmarks are closer, but most likely, mq is the way to go.
1135. # [13:29] <jackneill> thanks
1136. # [13:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> evilpie: what do you mean spefically ?
1137. # [13:30] <evilpie> I landed something on Friday on inbound and it's still not on m-c
1138. # [13:30] <aleth> jackneill: |mach mercurial-setup| might set some of that up for you.
1139. # [13:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: and sorry, trying to resolve this m7 failure :(
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1141. # [13:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm evilpie we have some permanent test failure that keeps the tree closed
1142. # [13:31] <evilpie> oh again? :(
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1146. # [13:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hmm evilpie there was a merge friday 1pm pacific, that was the last one from mi to m-c
1147. # [13:32] <evilpie> pretty sure I missed that one
1148. # [13:32] <mihaelav> hi Gijs
1149. # [13:32] <Gijs> mihaelav: hi!
1150. # [13:33] <evilpie> because I broke a test! ... my fault
1151. # [13:33] <Gijs> mihaelav: I'm still reviewing your patch, but I figured I should request the newer try push before :)
1152. # [13:33] <jackneill> aleth: i dont think its necessary, if i understand it correctly all i need to do is hg qnew blabug before i start editing, after hq qrefresh -m to commit and hg qexport to create a patch
1153. # [13:33] <jackneill> looks simply enough
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1155. # [13:33] <mihaelav> Gijs: yest, I just saw that, but I can only push to try
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1157. # [13:34] <mihaelav> I don't have rights for mozilla-central
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1160. # [13:34] <aleth> jackneill: Yeah, but you have to enable the extension and set some parameters in .hgrc, and I think mercurial-setup does that for you for a bunch of useful extensions
1161. # [13:34] <jackneill> i see
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1163. # [13:35] <Gijs> mihaelav: sure, but I mean, you should unapply your patch, pull a newer revision of mozilla-central, and then apply your patch again, and then push that to try. :)
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1165. # [13:35] <aleth> jackneill: hg is much more along the lines of the simple basics + optional extensions model than git
1166. # [13:36] <aleth> So to be productive, you want to have a bunch of extensions installed.
1167. # [13:36] <jackneill> aleth: yes, though i feel like the hg cloning will take more time then actually fix the bug
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1170. # [13:36] <mihaelav> Gijs: oh...got it
1171. # [13:36] <jgraham> aka a "broken defaults" model
1172. # [13:36] <mihaelav> Gijs: will do :)
1173. # [13:36] <aleth> jackneill: Use a bundle instead of hg clone, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial/Bundles
1174. # [13:37] <aleth> But yeah, setting up your dev environment for the first time will almost certainly take longer than fixing the bug ;)
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1184. # [13:41] <esawin> we disabled one test because it was leaking a docshell on cedar last week, should the leakage be detected on m-c aswell, if I reactivate it?
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1187. # [13:41] <@smaug> leaking docshell?
1188. # [13:42] <@smaug> I hope there was a bug file about the leak
1189. # [13:42] <@smaug> filed
1190. # [13:42] <esawin> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986458
1191. # [13:42] <esawin> just wanted to look into it, but reactivating it does not leak on m-c anymore.
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1195. # [13:45] <@smaug> hmm, ok, that wouldn't probably be an issue in docshell code itself
1196. # [13:45] <esawin> smaug: no, don't think so.
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1202. # [13:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning RyanVM
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1204. # [13:50] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hey
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1207. # [13:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: so hoping the last backout will fix the orange, thats then the stage where the first orange happend
1208. # [13:51] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah, it's plausible
1209. # [13:51] <RyanVM> and awful
1210. # [13:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> if not, i don't have any more idea
1211. # [13:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1214. # [13:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> at least https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=5c139817cf24 was only 1 of 7 orange
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1216. # [13:52] <RyanVM> beats perma-fail :P
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1218. # [13:52] <esawin> RyanVM: did all the bc chunking code land on m-c? I was going to fix bug 986458, but looks like it doesn't leak anymore: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3dc2f2560d1b
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1221. # [13:53] <RyanVM> esawin: it did
1222. # [13:53] <RyanVM> interesting
1223. # [13:53] <RyanVM> and scary
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1225. # [13:54] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: why was bug 886110 backed out?
1226. # [13:54] <esawin> right. I'll update the bug, wonder if we still should review and land the proposed patch though.
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1230. # [13:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: it was one of the patches (of 3) that were in the cset for the first m7 orange
1231. # [13:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> 2 got backedout before (and didn't fix) so i took the last one also
1232. # [13:55] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looks to me like backing out bug 946065 did resolve the perma-fail
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1234. # [13:56] <RyanVM> we'll see if it makes a difference
1235. # [13:56] <RyanVM> otherwise, I think we should re-land
1236. # [13:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah or maybe more test failures :)
1237. # [13:56] <RyanVM> also curious that the crashtest started failing after being green for quite some time
1238. # [13:56] <RyanVM> OH
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1240. # [13:56] <RyanVM> lol, I bet I know tha tproblem
1241. # [13:56] <RyanVM> heh
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1243. # [13:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh that was because of the backout and conflicting patches
1244. # [13:56] <RyanVM> totally not smaug's fault
1245. # [13:57] <RyanVM> yeah
1246. # [13:57] <RyanVM> path issues
1247. # [13:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah RyanVM but managed to fix that manually
1248. # [13:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah :)
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1250. # [13:57] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: does that mean you're relanding?
1251. # [13:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh waiting for results first and when m7 is ok i will reopen the tree
1252. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, you should point me at that slavealloc thing some time
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1254. # [13:58] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: not entirely sure if you can access it
1255. # [13:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: also sorry no c-n this time :/
1256. # [13:58] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i did most of them yesterday anyway
1257. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> Boo
1258. # [13:58] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: we should re-land smaug with the paths fixed
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1260. # [13:58] <RyanVM> and bug 886110 if it doesn't affect the M7 results
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1267. # [14:03] <RyanVM> nical: I hate to dump more on you, but bug 994300 is hitting a lot lately
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1269. # [14:04] <jackneill> i finished a bug, do i need to build firefox now? or will the mentor of the bug do it? (just because i have a relatively slow laptop) (also everything i needed to do was in the comments)
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1271. # [14:04] <till> jackneill: if you really only changed comments, there's no need to build
1272. # [14:05] <till> jackneill: however, I would recommend doing builds for any code changes. They're pretty fast (for such a huge codebase) nowadays
1273. # [14:05] <aleth> jackneill: /In general/ you should build and test before asking for review.
1274. # [14:05] <till> jackneill: you could just let the build run in the background while you do something like reading code or the webs
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1278. # [14:06] <nical> RyanVM: yes, I have seen your needinfo but I don't have a clue yet so I am leaving it so that I get a reminder about the bug
1279. # [14:07] <jackneill> yes
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1284. # [14:08] <RyanVM> nical: OK, feel free to pass it off to Milan if you don't have time
1285. # [14:08] <RyanVM> nical: I just don't want to see it sitting idle if possible
1286. # [14:08] <nical> yeah I am ccing him on the bug
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1294. # [14:10] <jackneill> hey i cant star building firefox due to mach error: http://codepad.org/yBEF9Diq
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1296. # [14:11] <till> jackneill: did you run `mach bootstrap`?
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1300. # [14:12] <jackneill> till: im running archlinux theres no bootstrap support for it as it says
1301. # [14:13] <till> hum
1302. # [14:13] <jackneill> so guess i gotta do it manually
1303. # [14:13] <till> jackneill: sounds like it :(
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1305. # [14:13] <till> jackneill: also means that I'm completely out of my depth and can't help :(
1306. # [14:13] <aleth> jackneill: Try the one-liner here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Linux_Prerequisites
1307. # [14:14] <aleth> Though it might fail for the same reason :-/
1308. # [14:14] <till> jackneill: but gps or glandium might be interested in the mach error you posted above
1309. # [14:14] <aleth> jackneill: If you scroll down on that page there are Arch instructions
1310. # [14:15] <jackneill> aleth: yes
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1313. # [14:18] <jackneill> unfortunately i still got the same error :(
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1322. # [14:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: m7 test running
1323. # [14:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/04e63b14de25 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 992747 - toolbar visibility setting doesn't work for non-customizable toolbars, r=jaws, a=sylvestre
1324. # [14:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and fingers crossed
1325. # [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d20804c31f61 - Mike Conley - Bug 973694 - Fix glitchy-looking private browsing indicator on OS X when tabs in titlebar are disabled. r=MattN, a=sylvestre
1326. # [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c6f80ae1ee23 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 971034 - adjust min-height of zoom control reset button only, r=jaws, a=sylvestre
1327. # [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c1bbbe2e1309 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 993322 - fix widgets not showing up in toolbox, r=mconley, a=sylvestre
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1340. # [14:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3e642a371c7a - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset e2aff2cd9a9a (bug 959573) for bc1 test failures on a CLOSED TREE
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1342. # [14:31] <decoder> I have an indexeddb question. if I create an object store in the onupgradeneeded method
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1345. # [14:31] <decoder> and I dont put an oncomplete on the transaction
1346. # [14:31] <decoder> can I assume that the transaction is complete in the onsuccess method of the open event?
1347. # [14:33] <@bsmedberg> till: ping
1348. # [14:33] <jackneill> bsmedberg: i finished a patch for bug 106787
1349. # [14:33] <@bsmedberg> jackneill: great
1350. # [14:34] <till> bsmedberg: pong
1351. # [14:34] <jackneill> unfortunatly im unable to test/build it because mach gives me this error: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930808
1352. # [14:34] <jackneill> and the workaround that pip install psutil doesnt work for me. :(
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1355. # [14:35] <jackneill> could i just send the patch without testing? if i will be able to solve this problem i can later try building firefox
1356. # [14:36] <@bsmedberg> jackneill: you can attach the patch to the bug, sure
1357. # [14:36] <@bsmedberg> I probably won't be able to review it until you've made sure that it builds, though
1358. # [14:37] <jackneill> bsmedberg: ok
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1363. # [14:40] <jackneill> oh i just solved it
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1369. # [14:45] <@bsmedberg> jackneill: cool, what was the problem?
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1372. # [14:48] <jackneill> bsmedberg: arch had python2-psutil install 2.0+ version bigger than the supplied by mozilla-central repo, just as the guy suggested in the bug
1373. # [14:48] <jackneill> bsmedberg: also i got another error, for i cant search at the bugzilla
1374. # [14:48] <@bsmedberg> paste it here!
1375. # [14:49] <jackneill> http://codepad.org/QDvFe2Aw
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1378. # [14:49] <@bsmedberg> jackneill: looks like it's using python3 somewhere it should be using python 2
1379. # [14:50] <jackneill> yeah arch default is py3
1380. # [14:50] <@bsmedberg> blech
1381. # [14:50] <@bsmedberg> just asec
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1384. # [14:50] <@bsmedberg> jackneill: `PYTHON=python2 mach build`
1385. # [14:51] <@bsmedberg> or maybe
1386. # [14:51] <@bsmedberg> `PYTHON=python2 python2 mach buidl`
1387. # [14:51] <jackneill> bsmedberg: yes it works now, thank you
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1389. # [14:51] <jackneill> ~3-4 hours or so and if its okay i will submit the patch
1390. # [14:52] <@bsmedberg> hopefully not that long...
1391. # [14:52] <jackneill> i have old laptop, dual core 1.73 Ghz
1392. # [14:52] <jackneill> kind of will be that long. :)
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1418. # [15:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: done :)
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1423. # [15:07] <RyanVM> thanks
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1425. # [15:08] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: we'll see for sure in a bit, but I'm still feeling inclined to re-land bug 886110 too
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1427. # [15:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: yeah 5 minutes left :)
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1433. # [15:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm RyanVM still m7 orange
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1437. # [15:12] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah, we'll it's not like it *never* happened before
1438. # [15:12] <RyanVM> it just wasn't permafail :P
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1440. # [15:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1442. # [15:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: so reland bug 886110 and reopen the tree ?
1443. # [15:13] <RyanVM> OK, so let's re-land bug 886110, get inbound merged over finally, and reopen
1444. # [15:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
1445. # [15:13] <RyanVM> and make jesup and crew fix all our emulator problems :D
1446. # [15:13] <RyanVM> *evil laugh*
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1450. # [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: so 2e83d29d7f6b as merge cset ?
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1452. # [15:14] <RyanVM> meh, I think you can re-land bug 886110 and use that
1453. # [15:14] <RyanVM> both that and bug 994740 have already landed and been green previously
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1455. # [15:15] <RyanVM> so I don't think you're taking any big risks by doing that
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1457. # [15:16] <jez> Does anyone know why the decision was made to emulate Firebug with Firefox's inbuild developer tools, rather than officially just bundling Firebug with Firefox similarly to how DOMi is bundled with Seamonkey?
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1459. # [15:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/008bbf75bccb - Paolo Amadini - Bug 995170 - Convert legacy uses of promise.js in devtools where this doesn't result in test failures. r=jwalker
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1463. # [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok done
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1466. # [15:18] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: and we can just worry about b-i/f-t merges later today
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1468. # [15:18] <RyanVM> not much in the way of changes since the merges I did last night anyway
1469. # [15:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b2c4a85a5e1 - Dimi Lee - Bug 886110 - Relanding Convert WifiManager to WebIDL on a CLOSED TREE. r=bz
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1471. # [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: mozilla-inbound is open again
1472. # [15:19] <RyanVM> jandem ^
1473. # [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> AutomatedTester: ^
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1479. # [15:20] <till> jez: the devtools don't "emulate Firebug" any more than they emulate the devtools of any of the competing browsers. As for why Firebug wasn't just bundled, I could only speculate, but people on #devtools could probably answer that
1480. # [15:21] <jez> but they do emulate the devtools of Chrome.
1481. # [15:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ac91d7d6269 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 991457 - Don't DCE MLoadElement if it needs a hole check. r=h4writer
1482. # [15:21] <jandem> RyanVM: thanks
1483. # [15:21] <jez> as far as i can tell they're pretty much a direct response
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1496. # [15:25] <till> jez: I doubt this conversation will lead anywhere useful, but yes - to some extent they are a response to the Chrome tools: to the extent that those contain good ideas. Much as those tools were a reaction to Firebug (via the WebKit inspector), and like the Chrome tools adopt good ideas in our devtools. I don't see why you'd expect anything else
1497. # [15:25] <decoder> it's no wonder that indexeddb is so complicated
1498. # [15:25] <jez> till: no, but I'd expect the firefox tools to *be* firebug... officially brought into the mozilla codebase, perhaps
1499. # [15:25] <decoder> even our docs are wrong in quite a few places it seems
1500. # [15:25] <decoder> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API/Using_IndexedDB#Using_a_key_generator
1501. # [15:25] <jez> till: instead they reinvented the wheel
1502. # [15:25] <decoder> no oncomplete for the createObjectStore transaction
1503. # [15:26] <till> jez: again, people on #devtools might be able to explain why they chose to not do that. If I were you, I'd go into the conversation about that with the assumption that people aren't idiots and have good reasons for decisions as important as this one
1504. # [15:27] <jez> till: far be it from me to say that silly decisions like forcing tabs-on-top are made on the whims of designers...... ;-)
1505. # [15:28] <till> jez: ok, you obviously don't have to follow my recommendation. But I can't answer your questions usefully any further
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1507. # [15:28] <jez> ok np
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1541. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/df414731bc97 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 971034 - adjust min-height of zoom control reset button only, r=jaws
1542. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/616a8d4e449e - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 989683 - restrict how we inherit the menubar text color to tabsintitlebar cases on non-aero, r=dao
1543. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fae245082f5d - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to m-c
1544. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/93dceafcb1e6 - Mike Conley - Bug 995161 - Customize mode can still break after bootstrapped add-on with custom legacy:true toolbar restarts. r=Gijs.
1545. # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67924d0de192 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 994181: Tracelogger: convert integer to platform-specific pointer before writing it as a pointer; r=h4writer
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1588. # [16:02] <nical> bsmedberg: ok cool, let´s have a chat when your meeting is over
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1649. # [16:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a3337bda5a22 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 995972 - Make mochitest-devtools mach command work with single folders or files r=jmaher
1650. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e6b103b4369e - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 974171 - Add DEVTOOLS_TOOLBOX_* flags r=jwalker
1651. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5033a4da6a1e - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 988102 - Opening inspector scrolls the content page all the way to the top;r=bgrins
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1659. # [16:41] <SJW> Just read about this feature: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hallambaker-tlssecuritypolicy-03
1660. # [16:41] <SJW> Would be a good protection against heartbleed
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1662. # [16:41] <SJW> e.g. stolen keys
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1674. # [16:49] <bbouvier> jmaher: ping
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1683. # [16:55] <jmaher> bbouvier: pong
1684. # [16:57] <jesup> RyanVM: so what was the final resolution of the b2g debug emulator M7 issue? Was it dbaron's "tests moved"?
1685. # [16:57] <bbouvier> jmaher: hi, saw you needinfo'd me for bug 990183, but I am afraid I haven't worked on the offending bug and thus wouldn't be of any help quickly. Did you want to needinfo somebody else instead?
1686. # [16:58] <RyanVM> jesup: first off, it was opt, not debug
1687. # [16:58] <RyanVM> jesup: second, yes, it appears to have been
1688. # [16:58] <jesup> ah
1689. # [16:58] <RyanVM> as depressing as that is
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1696. # [17:00] <jmaher> bbouvier: sorry about that- I have cleaned that up
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1698. # [17:00] <bbouvier> jmaher: np
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1704. # [17:02] <jesup> I wonder if we turned down the fake audio rate on opt builds as well - but that has more chance to trip up real-world stuff, though in theory our fake audio stuff is mostly for testing. But if anyone tries to use a b2g build with webrtc_landing/pc_test.html, it will be messed up. But we could do it.
1705. # [17:02] <jesup> RyanVM: ^
1706. # [17:03] <RyanVM> jesup: your call, I just think someone needs to be screaming about the current state of running media tests on the emulators
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1708. # [17:03] <padenot> we have been doing that
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1710. # [17:03] <padenot> jesup has, actually
1711. # [17:03] <RyanVM> yeah, louder :P
1712. # [17:03] <RyanVM> :D
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1716. # [17:04] <jtcranmer> hsivonen: ping
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1723. # [17:05] <jesup> RyanVM: we are. jgriffin has some plans; I think he's discussing them with ctalbert. Bug 994920
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1729. # [17:09] <Bas> Do bookmarklets no longer work?
1730. # [17:09] <Bas> I tried making a javascript:alert("Test"); but that didn't even work
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1732. # [17:10] <padenot> wfm here, I just tried
1733. # [17:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29442be13b0b - Julian Seward - Bug 938157 - Lightweight CFI/EXIDX unwinding library for SPS. r=n.nethercote, nfroyd, bgirard.
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1735. # [17:12] <froydnj> sewardj: \o/
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1737. # [17:12] <sewardj> froydnj: \o/
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1741. # [17:14] <gaston> but will it break non-sps platforms ? :P
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1743. # [17:16] <@smaug> Bas: javascript: is run in a different js context
1744. # [17:16] <@smaug> no window object
1745. # [17:17] <@smaug> Bas: try javascript: 1+1
1746. # [17:17] <@smaug> oh, bookmarklets
1747. # [17:17] <Bas> Yeah :)
1748. # [17:17] <@smaug> those should still work
1749. # [17:17] <Bas> smaug: Not seeing anything when I do javascript:alert("test"); :(
1750. # [17:17] <@smaug> hmm, unless bz' change affected to that
1751. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bf8adf5a7040 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 989683 - restrict how we inherit the menubar text color to tabsintitlebar cases on non-aero, r=dao, a=sylvestre.
1752. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8855f67b592c - Mike de Boer - Bug 993932: remove border-color transition to remedy TART regression. r=dao, a=sylvestre.
1753. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a7433dd3312a - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 987407 - Set the pref startup.homepage_override_url in-product for beta 29. r+a=gavin
1754. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/27221179c8b0 - Mike Conley - Bug 995161 - Customize mode can still break after bootstrapped add-on with custom legacy:true toolbar restarts. r=Gijs, a=sylvestre.
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1756. # [17:20] <@smaug> Bas: works here
1757. # [17:20] <@smaug> from bookmarks
1758. # [17:21] <jackneill> bsmedberg: build finished, successfully, patch sent
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1760. # [17:21] <jackneill> onto anoher bug!:D
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1763. # [17:21] <@bsmedberg> jackneill: great! let me know if you want suggestions
1764. # [17:21] <@bsmedberg> nical|brb: I'm around if you want
1765. # [17:22] <Bas> smaug: Hrm, on nightly?
1766. # [17:22] <@smaug> yes
1767. # [17:22] <jackneill> ok
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1769. # [17:23] <Bas> smaug: What the hell? How do I go about debugging this?
1770. # [17:23] <@smaug> well, 2 days old
1771. # [17:23] <@smaug> I would try first a debug build
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1773. # [17:23] <@smaug> there might be useful warnings in the terminal
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1779. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e4e4b7c15e0 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 979867: Kill mixed sign comparison warning; r=lth
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1781. # [17:26] <@bsmedberg> poiru: ping
1782. # [17:27] <till|out> jackneill: congrats! \o/
1783. # [17:27] <jackneill> thanks:)
1784. # [17:28] <Tomcat|mtg> mikeratcliffe: ping
1785. # [17:28] <@smaug> Friday and Monday aren't holidays in US?
1786. # [17:29] <Tomcat|mtg> mikeratcliffe: i guess https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37758314&tree=Fx-Team is from bug 995972
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1800. # [17:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d92206bb34a6 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 950044 - Fix miss-interpretation of current Desktop GC settings. r=gwagner
1801. # [17:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8869f945b355 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 995165 - Fix ARM v6 GC settings. r=terrence
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1817. # [17:35] <RyanVM> smaug: nope
1818. # [17:35] <RyanVM> smaug: we're too busy worshipping presidents and soldiers here ;)
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1820. # [17:35] <@smaug> I see
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1826. # [17:38] <nical> bsmedberg: I am back
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1830. # [17:40] <gcp> mmc: ping
1831. # [17:40] <@bsmedberg> nical: ok, so was my comment clear about that bug? I'd much prefer to explicitly shut down layout/gfx/xpconnect in the right order from NS_ShutdownXPCOM rather than invent another observer topic to do it
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1836. # [17:41] <mmc> Gcp, on bus, will be about 20 min
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1841. # [17:42] <nical> bsmedberg: that part is clear, would it be a problem to add an obser event for widget so that we can fire it explicitly from ShutdownXPCOM ?
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1843. # [17:42] <jesup> glandium: bug 982999 - been waiting on needinfo on your question for a month from jseward
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1845. # [17:43] <@bsmedberg> nical: an event? can't widget just keep using xpcom-shutdown as it already does?
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1847. # [17:44] <nical> bsmedberg: actually it can if we explicitly shutdown the gfx ipc after NS_XPCOM_SHUTDOWN_OBSERVER_ID
1848. # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> yeah
1849. # [17:44] <Bas> smaug: Nothing :s I'm baffled.
1850. # [17:44] <sewardj> jesup: I can look at 982999 this week
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1852. # [17:44] <nical> bsmedberg: then we don´t actually need to touch media either
1853. # [17:45] <nical> what matters is that widget and media are shutdown before gfx ipc and the later before the xpcom threads shutdown
1854. # [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc7f25b7ed2e - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 988416: Test for the Intl property existence before using it; r=till
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1856. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> nical: yeah, it should make the patch a fair bit smaller
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1859. # [17:47] <jesup> sewardj: Thanks!
1860. # [17:47] <jesup> glandium: unping
1861. # [17:47] <sewardj> jesup: the mismatches are probably harmless, but I'd need to check properly.
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1863. # [17:47] <@smaug> Bas: interestingly it doesn't seem to work with about:newtab
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1866. # [17:48] <Bas> smaug: Well, huh, so I just tried with another page, our findings appear to be consistent :-)
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1868. # [17:48] <Bas> So it's just a problem with session restore or new tabs :)
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1871. # [17:49] <@smaug> hmm, session store
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1879. # [17:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bd71f9da9d7d - Dave Hylands - Bug 990230 - Fix heap use-after-free in memory reporter. r=n.nethercote
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1885. # [17:54] <Bas> smaug: Hrm, 'The Components object is deprecated. It will soon be removed' what's replacing it? :)
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1889. # [17:55] <jesup> Bas: sounds like the warning should have a Bug # or URL in it...
1890. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> Bas, sounds like you want bholley
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1892. # [17:56] <Bas> Maybe I do? :-)
1893. # [17:56] <Bas> I'm just trying to call nsDOMWindowUtils :) This is being annoyingly hard to be fair :)
1894. # [17:56] <bholley> Bas: "call nsDOMWindowUtils"?
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1896. # [17:57] <Ms2ger> <Bas> smaug: Hrm, 'The Components object is deprecated. It will soon be removed' what's replacing it? :)
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1899. # [17:57] <bholley> Ms2ger: well, the Components shim is going away at some point
1900. # [17:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/493ecd06270a - Bobby Holley - Bug 995123 - Associate sandboxPrototyped Sandboxes to their prototype Window, if it exists. r=bz
1901. # [17:58] <Bas> bholley: Trying to queryinterface a window to nsIDOMWindowUtils basically, and I'm obviously not using the right magic, because it's not working :)
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1903. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> Bas, QI? You need GI to get nsIDOMWindowUtils
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1905. # [17:58] <Bas> Ms2ger: That's what I mean.
1906. # [17:58] <bholley> Bas: just use SpecialPowers.DOMWindowUtils
1907. # [17:58] <Bas> bholley: Can I do that from a bookmarklet?
1908. # [17:59] <bholley> Bas: um, wha?
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1910. # [17:59] <bholley> Bas: you want to do this in your browser?
1911. # [17:59] <bholley> Bas: this is not something we expose to the web
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1914. # [18:00] <RyanVM> mikeratcliffe: fx-team is not impressed with your mach devtools patch
1915. # [18:00] <Bas> bholley: Yeah, so I need to do this from the web console, or preferrably a bookmarklet :) just for debugging purposes, if I need to flip a pref that's fine.
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1920. # [18:01] <bholley> Bas: does it need to be a particular window?
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1922. # [18:01] <Bas> bholley: The window I'm currently in.
1923. # [18:01] <bholley> Bas: which is a content window?
1924. # [18:01] <Bas> bholley: Aye
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1926. # [18:02] <bholley> Bas: hm
1927. # [18:03] <bholley> Bas: I think your best bet is to open up a chrome scratchpad, find a reference to the window, and do it from there
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1934. # [18:04] <bholley> Bas: (or a web-console on a chrome-privileged page, like about:)
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1942. # [18:06] <Bas> bholley: Oh boy, any hints on how to do that?
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1945. # [18:06] <bholley> Bas: which part?
1946. # [18:06] <bholley> Bas: finding the window?
1947. # [18:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c3cec8a150a0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset a3337bda5a22 (bug 995972) for mozbuild test failures.
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1949. # [18:07] <bholley> Bas: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/XPCOM/Reference/Interface/nsIWindowMediator
1950. # [18:07] <bholley> Bas: you could also find it by manually traversing the docshell hierarchy, but that takes you through all of the frontend junk
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1952. # [18:07] <bholley> Bas: so you could just enumerate and search for a window whose .location matches what you want
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1954. # [18:08] <Bas> bholley: Heh, thanks, I'll go my best :) Appreciate it!
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1956. # [18:08] <bholley> Bas: alternatively, if you don't plan on loading any web content, you could set the pref: security.turn_off_all_security_so_that_viruses_can_take_over_this_computer
1957. # [18:08] <bholley> Bas: but that will grant System Principal to the entire web
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1960. # [18:09] <bholley> Bas: and we will cry when we see it on telemetry
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1962. # [18:10] <Bas> bholley: I can live with that :) I don't need to do anything on the web in this profile.
1963. # [18:10] <bholley> Bas: can you disable telemetry?
1964. # [18:11] <Bas> bholley: Just tell me the magic and I will :)
1965. # [18:11] <bholley> Bas: which magic
1966. # [18:11] <bholley> Bas: DOMWindowUtils?
1967. # [18:11] <Bas> To disable telemetry? :)
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1970. # [18:12] <bholley> Bas: once you set that pref, you do netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege("UniversalXPConnect"); in the page
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1972. # [18:12] <bholley> Bas: then you have a Components object, and can QI your window
1973. # [18:12] <Bas> Yeah, I understand :)
1974. # [18:12] <Bas> But how do I disable telemetry like you asked? :)
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1976. # [18:13] <bholley> preferences->advanced->data choices
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1981. # [18:14] <Bas> Much appreciated!
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1986. # [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9b8649f58614 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e6b103b4369e (bug 974171) for mochitest-dt failures.
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1993. # [18:16] <mmc> keeler, ping
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1996. # [18:18] <mikeratcliffe> RyanVM: I knew I shouldn't have grabbed food
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1999. # [18:18] <RyanVM> mikeratcliffe: that'll teach you to eat
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2005. # [18:19] <mikeratcliffe> lol… I will fix it tomorrow, thx
2006. # [18:19] <froydnj> RyanVM: plz to /nick yourself TheWeightlossSheriff
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2008. # [18:19] <nemo> so. just curious. prior to heartbleed, there was a lot of talk of transitioning to openssl as a kind of industry standard. I believe chrome was looking into this, w/ one complaint being architecture abstraction that supports smart cards everywhere and such, being too slow...
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2011. # [18:20] <nemo> now, everyone is beating on the openssl team
2012. # [18:20] <nemo> is the mozilla team a bit better regarded?
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2014. # [18:20] <nemo> I notice fedora is transitioning to mozilla across the board.
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2017. # [18:22] <nemo> heh. I notice a few places saying chromium is unaffected due to using mozilla nss. lucky timing then, given the openssl transition was in the works
2018. # [18:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/afc5f648e247 - Bobby Holley - Bug 993918 - Shut down CAPS and XPConnect after imagelib and gfx. r=Ms2ger,bsmedberg, a=sylvestre
2019. # [18:22] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7567306 HN discussing that.
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2022. # [18:23] <jgraham> I'm not sure luck was related
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2025. # [18:24] <jgraham> I mean I sort of assume that they were auditing OpenSSL for some reason
2026. # [18:24] <jgraham> Although I suppose a lot of their other services already use it
2027. # [18:24] <bholley> RyanVM: how is this sequence of events possible on bugzilla? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=993918#c31
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2029. # [18:25] <nemo> jgraham: ahhh. google discovered it. I missed that part
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2031. # [18:26] <nemo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed#Resolution indeedy
2032. # [18:26] <RyanVM> bholley: mid-aired by bc and bmo not showing the flags being reset maybe?
2033. # [18:26] <RyanVM> *shrugs* question for glob I guess
2034. # [18:26] <nemo> welp. gotta say the smartcard integration is kinda nifty at work, although I don't actually use it that much
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2037. # [18:27] <nemo> mmm https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7568749
2038. # [18:28] <nemo> ah. I see firefox folks weighing in on that discussion too
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2041. # [18:29] <jtcranmer> nemo: the sense I have had is that NSS has been generally regarded as a superior implementation of SSL than OpenSSL
2042. # [18:29] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7568907 - huh. dunno seemed to do ok before google came around before.. *shrug*
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2048. # [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/eca88e0235d5 - Mike Habicher - bug 995245 - remove stale FallbackCameraCapabilities.cpp, r=dhylands
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2061. # [18:38] <nemo> http://www.csoonline.com/article/2134016/malware-cybercrime/google-gets-kudos-for-tossing-older-chrome-plug-in-api.html
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2063. # [18:39] <nemo> "Google is not alone in abandoning the NPAPI. Mozilla plans to block plugins using the technology in December 2013."
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2065. # [18:39] <nemo> huh. really?
2066. # [18:39] <jtcranmer> . . .
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2069. # [18:39] <gcp> I heard talk about whitelisting them.
2070. # [18:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9da6d7ee48cd - Geoff Brown - Bug 982875 - Accept up to 2 assertions in Android test_bug682592.html; r=snorp
2071. # [18:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/824f4c321887 - Geoff Brown - Bug 982908 - Allow fewer assertions for crashtest 266360-1; r=mats
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2073. # [18:40] <jtcranmer> it's media misinterpreting discussions
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2076. # [18:42] <gfritzsche> nemo: not really
2077. # [18:42] <gfritzsche> click-to-play by default except whitelisted plugins though
2078. # [18:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbe169081f1c - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 902711 - Make marionette_transport its own package, r=ato
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2080. # [18:43] <gfritzsche> nemo: ah, found it: http://blog.mozilla.org/security/2014/02/28/update-on-plugin-activation/
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2083. # [18:45] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, fwiw, I've not found the manual verification of random untagged bugs useful in the past
2084. # [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b0b53c3f057 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 994024 - Add assertions in ImageBridgeChild. r=bjacob
2085. # [18:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b1495af7084 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 994024 - Add assertions in ShadowLayers.cpp. r=bjacob
2086. # [18:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e9c6b964434 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 994024 - Discard TextureClients that we failed to allocate or lock. r=bjacob
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2095. # [18:49] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: I'm always for that happening, but right now, we seem to have problems covering what needs to be covered with the staff we have - we are working on bringing more volunteers in as well, and when we have more manpower overall, I'm all for looking at "random" stuff, doing more exploratory testing, etc.
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2098. # [18:50] <KaiRo> right now what I try to figure out is how to get to the really important stuff more efficiently
2099. # [18:50] <decoder> question: I have a page that receives commands via websocket that it eval()s. the code looks e.g. like this: varX = indexedDB.open('DBX'); varX.onupgradeneeded = function() { alert('boo'); } . Now I keep submitting such requests with X being a random number. the delay between requests is 500ms. it roughly takes 300 requests for the first onupgradeneeded to run.. why does that take so long?
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2104. # [18:52] <nemo> decoder: WAG from the peanut gallery. disc IO? Why do you keep calling open over and over anyway
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2118. # [18:57] <decoder> nemo: it's a fuzzer and right now it's too dumb to not do that
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2124. # [18:57] <decoder> ill see what happens if I limit the amount of calls there
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2151. # [19:04] <nemo> hm. on the subject of indexeddb
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2154. # [19:06] <nemo> chromium used to be noticeably slower on that front, but I fired chromium 33 off at http://linq2indexeddb.azurewebsites.net/Tests/Linq2IndexedDBCoreTest.htm vs Firefox 28
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2156. # [19:06] <nemo> hmmmm
2157. # [19:06] <nemo> 199 tests for chromium, 211 for firefox. huh...
2158. # [19:07] <nemo> anyway 20 seconds/211 tests/12 errors for FF, 15 seconds/199 tests/0 errors for chromium
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2205. # [19:33] <froydnj> such convenience
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2234. # [19:46] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ping
2235. # [19:46] <@bsmedberg> khuey: pong
2236. # [19:46] <@khuey> bsmedberg: do we _exit in opt builds yet?
2237. # [19:46] <nalexander> froydnj: you can have that in hg -- use gps's hg-gecko-dev and bookmakrs.
2238. # [19:46] <@bsmedberg> khuey: no
2239. # [19:47] <nalexander> froydnj: in fact, you don't really need gps's extension. It's just bookmarks.
2240. # [19:47] <froydnj> nalexander: then I'd have to use hg :)
2241. # [19:47] <@bsmedberg> bholley_: I just gave you bug 994335. Let me know if you shouldn't be the owner or if there's a better owner.
2242. # [19:47] <nalexander> froydnj: but gps's pushtree is nice.
2243. # [19:47] <@khuey> bsmedberg: then why does https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPCOM_Shutdown claim we do?
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2246. # [19:48] <@bsmedberg> khuey: heh, that "will" is aspirational
2247. # [19:48] <@bsmedberg> feel free to add an "in the future" to tha doc
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2338. # [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2ab3be04316a - Wes Johnston - Bug 990395 - Use a url to find browser apps rather than a scheme. r=mfinkle, a=sledru
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2343. # [20:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33bfd3ceee1f - L. David Baron - Bug 995661 patch 3 - Add mochitest for canvas drawWindow. r=mattwoodrow
2344. # [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/febd5ad98adb - L. David Baron - Bug 995661 patch 1 - Remove dead code resulting from removal of gfxPlatform::SupportsAzureContent(). r=mattwoodrow
2345. # [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33d397b3b008 - L. David Baron - Bug 995410 - Call shouldSnapshotWholePage rather than testing for its existence. r=mattwoodrow
2346. # [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4428373539b7 - L. David Baron - Bug 995721 patch 1 - Honor the translation on mShadowTarget in ClientLayerManager::MakeSnapshotIfRequired. r=mattwoodrow
2347. # [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ba6e4eeb392 - L. David Baron - Bug 995721 patch 2 - Run drawWindow mochitests on a toplevel window. r=mattwoodrow
2348. # [20:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e0abf6eeec3 - L. David Baron - Bug 995661 patch 2 - Use OP_OVER rather than OP_SOURCE to handle canvas drawWindow calls that don't cover the canvas or (I believe) that contain transparency.
2349. # [20:14] <firebot> r=mattwoodrow
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2353. # [20:16] <Guest> Does firefox support screensharing over webrtc?
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2357. # [20:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7c4c0d0f613 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 930893 part.1 Implement constructor of KeyboardEvent r=smaug
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2360. # [20:17] <jesup> Guest: not yet (there's a limited variant available on Android in Nightly).
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2364. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e5f7f4427df - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 994861. Only overlay scrollbars should be positioned and have z-index. r=roc
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2367. # [20:19] <Guest> @jesup what about tab sharing?
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2380. # [20:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3a3224245147 - Rick Eyre - Bug 981280 - Disable WebVTT support on 29 r=bz,cpearce a=sledru
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2383. # [20:26] <@ehsan> flo-retina: thanks for filing 996119!
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2386. # [20:27] <flo-retina> ehsan: np :). I discussed this with Gavin an hour ago, and we agreed that there are actually different things that we need to investigate, and we want to start by listing what we actually want to measure before digging into it, so that we don't miss parts.
2387. # [20:28] <flo-retina> sorry for the delay
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2389. # [20:28] <@ehsan> makes sense, and np!
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2403. # [20:32] <jesup> Guest: that limited form for android is tab sharing
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2405. # [20:32] <Guest> thank you
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2420. # [20:35] <@bz> So is this moco meeting starting?
2421. # [20:36] <@khuey> probably not
2422. # [20:36] <@khuey> but you can check your email
2423. # [20:36] <@khuey> and skip the meeting
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2425. # [20:36] <mcsmurf> ah new mail
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2429. # [20:36] <@bz> khuey: I was wondering, yes
2430. # [20:37] <fabrice> I would still attend
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2432. # [20:37] <@bz> Uh.....
2433. # [20:37] <jryans> hopefully the new IRC password will be posted too... :/
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2435. # [20:37] <catlee> its up
2436. # [20:37] <@bz> and someone schedules a meeting for 4:30 Pacific _tonight_?
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2438. # [20:37] <@bz> They clearly don't want people attending
2439. # [20:37] <@bz> at least not Jewish people. ;)
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2442. # [20:38] <dholbert> jryans, https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/airmo/MoCo+Vidyo+Room+Security
2443. # [20:38] <mconnor> bz: pfft, like you can't move seder
2444. # [20:38] <@dbaron> make: dist/bin/nsinstall: Permission denied
2445. # [20:38] <mconnor> this is important!
2446. # [20:38] <@dbaron> I claim that's not caused by my commit
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2448. # [20:38] <@bz> mconnor: uh-huh
2449. # [20:38] <fabrice> bz: pretty fun when Debbie just said "be ware of timezones"
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2452. # [20:38] <bent> is the air.m.o feed not working?
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2454. # [20:38] <mconnor> bz: fortunately for me, my wife's family is very very lax, so it's Saturday for us
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2456. # [20:39] <bent> i've refreshed this page like a dozen times
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2458. # [20:39] <jryans> dholbert: ah, strange. i was there, but was perplexed by it being last updated in feb. whatever, it seems to work!
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2460. # [20:39] <@bz> fabrice: yeah, well
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2463. # [20:40] <@bz> mconnor: well, we're fairly lax, but this is still the sort of thing that gets scheduled a few days ahead of time... ;)
2464. # [20:40] <mcsmurf> bent: same for me
2465. # [20:40] <mconnor> bz: a few days? slackers! :)
2466. # [20:40] <@bz> mconnor: Literally. We decided on Saturday night to do it tonight.
2467. # [20:40] <evilpie> here to doesn't load the stream
2468. # [20:41] <bent> vidyo seems to work
2469. # [20:41] <dholbert> jryans, it's a macro
2470. # [20:41] <Guest> @jesup does this also only work on android
2471. # [20:41] <jryans> dholbert: ah, that explains it, thanks :)
2472. # [20:41] <jesup> Guest: IIRC yes
2473. # [20:41] <@ehsan> bz: stupid question! what's a good calendar showing the Jewish holidays etc?
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2475. # [20:41] <@bz> ehsan: hmmm
2476. # [20:42] <@bz> ehsan: http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday0.htm has some dates at the bottom
2477. # [20:42] <jesup> Guest: check bugzilla, there are bugs on more general impls. Note that the UI and security issues have not been hammered out yet, nor have they at google
2478. # [20:42] <@bz> ehsan: though note the "When Holiday's Begin" bit
2479. # [20:42] <evilpie> ehsan: in google calendar it's really easy to add new ones
2480. # [20:42] <@bz> er, Holidays
2481. # [20:42] <evilpie> https://www.google.com/calendar/render?tab=mc
2482. # [20:42] <@ehsan> bz: hmm, what do you mean?
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2484. # [20:42] <Guest> jesup thanks, checking now
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2486. # [20:42] <@ehsan> bz: are you talking about multi-day holidays?
2487. # [20:42] <@ehsan> evilpie: ty
2488. # [20:43] <@bz> ehsan: e.g. Passover is listed as starting 4/15 this year
2489. # [20:43] <@bz> ehsan: which means it actually starts at sundown on 4/14
2490. # [20:43] <@ehsan> ah I see
2491. # [20:43] <evilpie> ehsan: it's a bit hard to find, click on the arrow next to other calenders
2492. # [20:43] <@ehsan> bz: and that depends on your local time right?
2493. # [20:43] <@bz> ehsan: yep
2494. # [20:43] <evilpie> there is something called "browse interesting calendars"
2495. # [20:43] <@ehsan> makes sense
2496. # [20:43] <@bz> ehsan: Back in the olde days it would depend on when you could see three stars
2497. # [20:44] <@ehsan> evilpie: aha! found it
2498. # [20:44] <@bz> ehsan: but clouds being what they are people tend to just compute a reasonable time for a few centuries now and use that
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2501. # [20:44] <@bz> ehsan: Also, more secular Jews are obviosly more lenient about exact start time... ;)
2502. # [20:44] <@ehsan> bz: I see, that's good!
2503. # [20:44] <@ehsan> heh, yeah
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2505. # [20:45] <@bz> ehsan: but 7:30pm is "late enough" in my timezone for all purposes
2506. # [20:45] <@ehsan> bz: to this day for some religious holiday dates in Iran, people still insist that they need to observe the moon with naked eye
2507. # [20:45] <@ehsan> which means we never know the exact date for a national holiday till the day before!
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2510. # [20:45] <@bz> ehsan: There are certainly parts of Judaism where this is true
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2512. # [20:45] <evilpie> at least you don't change timezones from on to an other day
2513. # [20:45] <@bz> ehsan: the common solution in Judaism is to celebrate a nominally one-day holiday on two days
2514. # [20:46] <@ehsan> evilpie: people do that?!
2515. # [20:46] <@bz> ehsan: to make sure your bases are covered
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2517. # [20:46] <@ehsan> bz: haha, that's awesome!
2518. # [20:46] <evilpie> ehsan: yep small countries, mostly when they decide not to go with winter/summer time and stuff like that
2519. # [20:46] <evilpie> I think even russia had quite short notice
2520. # [20:47] <@ehsan> ah yeah, daylight saving screws things over for people, true
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2522. # [20:48] <poiru> bsmedberg: pong
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2524. # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> poiru: hey, was just going to ask you about the whitespace tooling
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2527. # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> poiru: trying to figure out how carefully I should be reviewing those patches...
2528. # [20:48] <@ehsan> evilpie: btw, that google calendar interesting calendars thing is really really awesome! thanks for the tip
2529. # [20:49] <evilpie> you are welcome
2530. # [20:49] <evilpie> don't think many people know about it
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2533. # [20:50] <@ehsan> yeah, it surely is not discoverable
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2537. # [20:52] <poiru> bsmedberg: I'm basically using my editors reindent functionality for about a screenful of code at a time and fixing alignment issues by hand. (I tried clang-format, but it made a bunch of extra unwanted changes.)
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2561. # [21:05] <poiru> bsmedberg: If it helps, I can attach output of `diff -b`, which ignores changes in the amount of whitespace (`diff -w` ignores all whitespace changes). It should prove that I'm not adding a space where there was previously none (e.g. in the middle of a word) and that I'm removing whitespace entirely only at the beginning of lines. Of course, I could still have failed to reindent correctly.
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2564. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa82f32d0c39 - Kyle Huey - Bug 991812: Remove uses of RefCounted<T> that live in Gecko. r=ehsan
2565. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3797f7c91ed2 - Kyle Huey - Bug 993734: Stop pretending that the observer service is threadsafe. r=bsmedberg
2566. # [21:06] <@bsmedberg> poiru: I'm not worried about that. I think what I'll do is just sample the final output to make sure it's reasonable.
2567. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2d5b2be4142 - Kyle Huey - Bug 994971: Don't export nsObserverService.h. r=bsmedberg
2568. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddbac34527fe - Kyle Huey - Bug 991812: Remove uses of AtomicRefCounted<T> that live in Gecko. r=ehsan
2569. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d4032c2f237 - Kyle Huey - Bug 995405: Don't pass around references to the observer service off the main thread. r=michal
2570. # [21:06] <poiru> bsmedberg: Alright, sounds good.
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2592. # [21:15] <decoder> nemo: so, I limited the number of open calls to 3. after that it wont make any more
2593. # [21:15] <decoder> but sleep instead
2594. # [21:15] <decoder> still not working
2595. # [21:15] <decoder> then i closed the browser after a while
2596. # [21:15] <decoder> and got
2597. # [21:15] <decoder> ###!!! ASSERTION: Uh, IsInModalState() called w/o a reachable top window?: 'Error', file mozilla-central/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp, line 8399
2598. # [21:15] <decoder> not sure if thats related though
2599. # [21:15] <decoder> but no onupgradeneeded events fired (with a fresh profile)
2600. # [21:17] <decoder> likely unrelated i would guess.. back to debugging
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2613. # [21:22] <nemo> decoder: I'm a bit confused as to why you need more than 1
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2617. # [21:23] <nemo> decoder: but indexeddb is definitely slower than localstore, due to memcaching
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2655. # [21:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: bustage ahoy
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2658. # [21:34] <decoder> nemo: for fuzzing, you never work with just one, because you may want to test what happens if you create more than one. you can hit bugs with that too
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2660. # [21:34] <nemo> ah
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2662. # [21:35] <nemo> decoder: hm. I wonder. would performance improve if you ran the profile on a ramdisk?
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2670. # [21:36] <decoder> nemo: i just figured out what it was.. in some cases, the profile directory wasnt wiped -.-
2671. # [21:36] <decoder> so not a perf problem after all
2672. # [21:36] <nemo> hm
2673. # [21:36] <decoder> >.<
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2675. # [21:36] <decoder> (means, the dbs were existing)
2676. # [21:36] <nemo> decoder: bet ramdisc would still help :)
2677. # [21:36] <decoder> ill keep that in mind, thx
2678. # [21:36] <decoder> :)
2679. # [21:36] <nemo> mount -t ramfs none foo
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2689. # [21:37] <nemo> well, /tmp is usually tmpfs which is usually ram too, just not guaranteed. no idea how important the perf measurement is to you
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2697. # [21:38] <@ehsan> lmandel: RyanVM|sheriffduty ping
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2701. # [21:39] <lmandel> ehsan: Hi. RyanVM|sheriffduty and I are in Andrew's vidyo room.
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2705. # [21:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2cf132023be - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 993734, bug 995405) for Windows bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
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2723. # [21:51] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7587935
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2726. # [21:52] <mcsmurf> nemo: no, I wont read those comments ;)
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2728. # [21:53] <mcsmurf> already did this for some Mozilla-related articles in the last two weeks
2729. # [21:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1adbd1657ba1 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 995626 - Fade in tab titles and close buttons when opening a tab. r=jaws
2730. # [21:53] <mcsmurf> if you're not angry or sad enough yet, then doing this will change that
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2732. # [21:54] <nemo> mcsmurf: lose lose for mozilla, my buddy permanently ditched FF over Eich's resignation, other people did it based on OkCupid's urging.
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2742. # [21:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/350e0398b8a6 - Tim Taubert - Bug 966843 - Fix intermittent browser_615394-SSWindowState_events.js hangs r=smacleod
2743. # [22:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/473128900c70 - Tim Taubert - Bug 947570 - Disable browser_597071.js until rewritten for Marionette r=smacleod
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2760. # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3960907890b7 - Myk Melez - Bug 990125 - Ignore automatic update checks in webapp processes. r=mfinkle, a=sledru
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2762. # [22:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3437e5663d9e - Jan de Mooij - Bug 991457 - Don't DCE MLoadElement if it needs a hole check. r=h4writer, a=sledru
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2791. # [22:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: desktop b2g mochitest failures on inbound - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37776995&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2798. # [22:17] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, hmmm
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2801. # [22:17] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, I'm inclined to just disable the test for B2G desktop
2802. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/376496720a0e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets ddbac34527fe and fa82f32d0c39 (bug 991812) for B2G bustage.
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2805. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: do as you like :)
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2807. # [22:19] * @dbaron just needs to find an example of how to do that somewhere in the tree
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2810. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: one sec
2811. # [22:19] * RyanVM|sheriffduty can help with that :)
2812. # [22:20] <@dbaron> skip-if = (buildapp == 'b2g' && toolkit != 'gonk')
2813. # [22:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that's the one
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2816. # [22:22] <@dbaron> aargh, CLOSED TREE message
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2818. # [22:23] <@dbaron> does window.open work on b2g desktop?
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2821. # [22:23] <@smaug> IIRC someone was complaining about it recently
2822. # [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16f349eeb65c - L. David Baron - Bug 995661 followup - Skip mochitest on b2g desktop for now on a CLOSED TREE.
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2827. # [22:24] <@dbaron> there are a *lot* of mochitests disabled on b2g desktop
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2831. # [22:25] <@dbaron> (in this case only half the test actually depends on window.open, but...)
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2836. # [22:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: we really need to generate disabled tests report
2837. # [22:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> with everything switched over to manifests now, should be doable
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2839. # [22:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: though I'd guess there won't be much energy being put into fixing them on B2G desktop since it's going away anyway
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2843. # [22:29] <aja> khuey: downloaded mozbuild-win32 package you released last week....noted emacs was updated to latest....why still quite old svn, though?
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2866. # [22:43] <@khuey> aja: I didn't release anything
2867. # [22:43] <@khuey> aja: talk to RyanVM|sheriffduty?
2868. # [22:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aja: do people still use it? :P
2869. # [22:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and more to the point, nobody asked
2870. # [22:44] <aja> RyanVM|sheriffduty: dunno....just know secunia psi is still bitching about it :)
2871. # [22:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> who?
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2873. # [22:45] <aja> RyanVM|sheriffduty: http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal/
2874. # [22:46] * RyanVM|sheriffduty isn't even aware of any active projects within moz that still use svn
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2876. # [22:47] <aja> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's designed to whine about old versions of stuff with security vulnerabiities when fixed up versions are available
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2879. # [22:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aja: I guess I could just as easily be persuaded to remove it outright :P
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2881. # [22:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e6136ebda6ba - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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2884. # [22:48] * aja twists RyanVM|sheriffduty's arm
2885. # [22:49] * aja awaits the obligatory "Uncle!"
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2895. # [22:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aja: :)
2896. # [22:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I guess it's a good questoin to ask for mozillabuild.next :)
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2898. # [22:53] <aja> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fwiw, it's the apache httpd svn module server-side that had the vulerability, iirc
2899. # [22:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> which will at least come iwth a package manager
2900. # [22:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so those who want it can still have it
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2903. # [22:53] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, btw, the push I made a few hours ago changes the reftest harness to do invalidation the way it used to rather than repainting the entire canvas for every invalidate; this regressed about 9 months ago, so it's possible there could be some oranges that went away 9 months ago coming back...
2904. # [22:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> can't wait :P
2905. # [22:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dc9a8e2751b - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 994711 - Expose --this-chunk and --total-chunks to reftest mach targets, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD, a=NPOTB
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2907. # [22:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: you sure know how to make my Monday! :)
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2910. # [22:55] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, hey, the fixes needed to make it work again could have improved things too
2911. # [22:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we can hope
2912. # [22:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: oh btw, there's no west coast sheriff this week until Friday at the earliest, so be nice :)
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2917. # [22:57] <froydnj> it's wild west week!
2918. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah, save the carnage for after 5pm my time please :D
2919. # [22:57] <@dbaron> Tomcat will just have a more interesting morning :-)
2920. # [22:57] * RyanVM|sheriffduty closes the tree, goes home
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2922. # [22:57] * froydnj looks around for bustage to inflict on RyanVM|sheriffduty
2923. # [22:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gogogogogogo
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2928. # [22:59] <@khuey> we need a sheriff in Hawaii
2929. # [22:59] * RyanVM|sheriffduty volunteers
2930. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40260af420a7 - Randell Jesup - Bug 919215: Drop queued audio data on low-latency startup, make AudioStream::Init() async r=roc,padenot
2931. # [22:59] <edwin> If I must...
2932. # [22:59] <edwin> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Bah!
2933. # [22:59] <jesup> Ha! beat the closing! ;-)
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2935. # [23:00] <jesup> or the non-closing...
2936. # [23:00] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you poor soul
2937. # [23:00] <jgilbert> jaws, was this never backed out? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940375
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2947. # [23:04] <cabanier> can anyone tell me where the default style rules are defined?
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2976. # [23:14] <sicking> baku|away: ping
2977. # [23:14] <sicking> smaug: ping
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2982. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f42a748cfaa - Doug Turner - Bug 995070 - Add preference to send 'Prefer: Safe' header as defined by draft-nottingham-safe-hint-01. r=mcmanus
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2985. # [23:16] <sicking> jduell: ping
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2990. # [23:19] <@smaug> sicking: pong
2991. # [23:19] <sicking> smaug: re https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504553#c56 do you know what's not threadsafe about DOMEventTargetHelper?
2992. # [23:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb250395c0b1 - Bobby Holley - Bug 996077 - Null-check |holder|, and warn if SetWeakMapEntry fails. r=bz
2993. # [23:20] <sicking> smaug: i thought that the event code was running fine in workers these days?
2994. # [23:20] <@smaug> sicking: DETH is cycle collectable
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2997. # [23:20] <@smaug> sicking: that is different
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2999. # [23:20] <@smaug> DETH is one-thread-only, but not thread safe
3000. # [23:20] <sicking> smaug: we have cc in workers these days
3001. # [23:21] <@smaug> yes, but CCable objects aren't thread safe
3002. # [23:21] <@smaug> you can use them only in the thread you create them
3003. # [23:21] <@smaug> which has a CC running
3004. # [23:21] <sicking> smaug: oooh. Andrea is saying that he's not able to run it in multiple threads?? I wonder why he's trying to do that
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3006. # [23:22] <@smaug> hmm
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3008. # [23:23] <@smaug> sicking: does the setup have main thread ws, and forward stuff to worker ws
3009. # [23:23] <sicking> smaug: btw, DETH is a really bad abriviation :)
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3011. # [23:23] <@smaug> DETH is perfect !
3012. # [23:23] <jaws> jgilbert: holly was reset, no need to back out
3013. # [23:23] <sicking> smaug: i don't think so. But he needs to proxy some calls to the main thread because necko only works from main thread
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3016. # [23:25] <jgilbert> jaws, pulling unbranded 'moz-release' zips from FTP shows it claiming to be holly o.O
3017. # [23:25] <@smaug> or can some of that websocket stuff run in necko threads
3018. # [23:25] <@smaug> sicking: I'll ask him tomorrow
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3022. # [23:27] <jgilbert> should I just land strip-trailing-ws patches without review/bug?
3023. # [23:27] <sicking> smaug: there's a bunch of necko stuff that won't work from worker threads
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3025. # [23:28] <sicking> smaug: i'm working on getting that fixed, but it'll take a really long time
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3027. # [23:28] <sicking> smaug: so we'll have to do most calls into necko from the main thread
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3030. # [23:29] <@smaug> sicking: well, ws is a bit different comparing to many other necko stuff
3031. # [23:29] <@smaug> but sure
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3033. # [23:29] <sicking> smaug: yeah, we can get data delivered to the worker thread, but that's all for now
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3039. # [23:32] <sicking> smaug: this will get better. I have plans. But it's some ways out
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3041. # [23:32] <@smaug> sicking: btw, I'll try to get to the b2g profiling this week. Just need to get the device whitelisted so that I can get a new firmware
3042. # [23:32] <sicking> smaug: \o/
3043. # [23:32] <sicking> smaug: much appreciated!
3044. # [23:32] <@smaug> at least I hope that will fix the crashes I was getting today
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3050. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/cbd2a2e51cbe - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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3052. # [23:34] <idwer> yoric was the submitter here, right? http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4a4cef561232
3053. # [23:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da17b1da2a39 - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 918987 - Implement String.prototype.normalize. r=jwalden
3054. # [23:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdf86d4ca60b - Jeff Walden - Bug 983053 - Don't suppress-deleted-elements on an object that's not in the middle of iteration. r=jorendorff
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3065. # [23:39] <jtcranmer> \o/
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3069. # [23:40] <jaws> jgilbert: that's scary. Holly was a dead end
3070. # [23:40] <jaws> jgilbert: please file a bug, we need to figure this out
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3075. # [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b6cab80dc94 - Bobby Holley - Bug 994335 - Null-check aProtoDoc in nsXULPrototypeScript::Serialize. r=smaug
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3095. # [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/263f232855ad - Matt Woodrow - Bug 974197 - Fire MozAfterPaint after the compositor has composited the frame. r=roc
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3097. # [23:53] <@smaug> could we get some intern to fix cleopatra ui
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3106. # [23:58] <Yoric> idwer: What did I do?
3107. # [23:58] <idwer> Yoric: no hard feelings :)
3108. # [23:58] <idwer> Yoric: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=950399
3109. # [23:58] <Yoric> ouch
3110. # [23:59] <Yoric> If the relationship is confirmed, that's pretty bad.
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