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  25. # [00:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b2c7cadebd0f - Robert Strong - Windows installer only - Bug 996371 - 7-Zip self-extracting archive fonts are blurry on HiDPI. r=tabraldes
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  29. # [00:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/eeb970d8eb58 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  31. # [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/466700354958 - Richard Newman - Bug 970176 - Part 1: rework LocaleManager to simplify use from android-sync. r=nalexander
  32. # [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/661f96cbf4ce - Richard Newman - Bug 970176 - Part 2: invoke LocaleManager locale switching code prior to handling strings or Locale in background services. r=nalexander
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  36. # [00:11] <@roc> is it possible to look further back in time with http://planet.mozilla.org?
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  41. # [00:14] <froydnj> mhoye: what is a "diamond" priority bug?
  42. # [00:15] <fabrice> bholley: I love to get r- on code I copy/pasted ;)
  43. # [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/23311c5022ea - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 987792 - increase panel buttons' labels' clip rect height, r=jaws, a=sylvestre
  44. # [00:15] <bholley> fabrice: and then "hey, go fix up the other code" ;-)
  45. # [00:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/caf2147c04f4 - Mike Conley - Bug 996186 - Customize mode briefly makes titlebar transparent during transition. r=Gijs, a=sylvestre
  46. # [00:15] <Waldo> roc: some web-based feed readers will let you go back further in time
  47. # [00:15] <Waldo> roc: how far back do you want to go and for what? I can search mine if you want
  48. # [00:15] <bholley> fabrice: the sandbox was the big thing
  49. # [00:15] <@khuey> froydnj: a bug that is only important because of advertising and cartel-imposed scarcity?
  50. # [00:16] <bholley> fabrice: we want to avoid proliferating random globals that XPConnect doesn't know about
  51. # [00:16] <Waldo> although, I don't directly read planet, so I can't go back in time there as easily, necessarily
  52. # [00:16] <@khuey> fabrice: making a copy of code is often good reason for an r- :P
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  76. # [00:26] <RyanVM|afk> khuey: b2g bustage
  77. # [00:26] <RyanVM|afk> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37875980&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  78. # [00:26] <RyanVM|afk> oh wait, I'm not here
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  81. # [00:27] <@khuey> RyanVM|afk: your closing just blocked my push
  82. # [00:27] <@khuey> :P
  83. # [00:27] <RyanVM|afk> \m/
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  89. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c55cac422f2 - Kyle Huey - Bug 991812: B2G Fixups CLOSED TREE. r=me
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  94. # [00:30] <froydnj> khuey: what? still with the RefPtr? boo
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  121. # [00:41] <@ehsan> mconnor++
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  134. # [00:53] <@roc> Waldo: thanks, it's OK
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  144. # [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcb4575e90d9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 974197 - Remove the layers acceleration pref change that accidentally made it in. CLOSED TREE
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  154. # [01:06] <dougc> RyanVM|afk: sorry for the bustage on 898963, and thank you backing it out. It was a last minute change that compiled fine on gcc and clang and mingw here so I had not re-tried.
  155. # [01:06] <Waldo> bjacob__: wow this test makes my eyes hurt, and even still I'm not sure it's as perfectly comprehensive as might be totally desirable :-)
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  159. # [01:12] <jgilbert> khuey, would you be able to help me with info on plugin execution entrypoints from gecko threads? (just the main thread?)
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  180. # [01:19] <@khuey> jgilbert: talk to johns
  181. # [01:19] <@khuey> and you'll have a better time
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  185. # [01:20] <johns> http://i.imgur.com/JvINXCw.gif
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  187. # [01:20] <idwer> heh
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  190. # [01:21] <johns> jgilbert: What info do you need?
  191. # [01:21] <mhoye> froydnj: They're the bugs that make it into our priority triage meetings, but still don't find a home on an engineer's queue.
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  193. # [01:22] <jgilbert> johns, I want to dirty our cached TLS value for 'current OpenGL context' every time we run plugin code on one of our threads
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  195. # [01:22] <johns> running plugin code already makes gecko dirty! :-P
  196. # [01:23] <jgilbert> I know! That's why we need to mark it as such!
  197. # [01:23] <mhoye> They're generally low-workload-but-moderate-priority bugs that are rated 1-3 in terms of effort but that we're willing to help mentor to completion in the very near term.
  198. # [01:24] <jgilbert> johns, to be clear, I'm not trying to run anything new, just to track existing cases where we let dirty plugin code run
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  200. # [01:24] <johns> jgilbert: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/plugins/base/nsNPAPIPlugin.cpp#182
  201. # [01:24] <gwagner> Callek|Buildduty: ping
  202. # [01:24] <johns> jgilbert: That *should* be called whenever we're entering into plugin code
  203. # [01:24] <Callek|Buildduty> gwagner: pong?
  204. # [01:24] <jgilbert> johns, :D that's perfect
  205. # [01:24] <johns> jgilbert: And its matching NS_NotifyPluginCall() when we return
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  207. # [01:25] <gwagner> Callek|Buildduty: any idea why my tests on the pine tree are not scheduled?
  208. # [01:25] <johns> jgilbert: Which call BeginPluginCall and EndPluginCall respectively
  209. # [01:25] <gwagner> Callek|Buildduty: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=Pine
  210. # [01:25] <Callek|Buildduty> gwagner: shift+reload
  211. # [01:25] <johns> jgilbert: But note that we can call into a plugin which calls into gecko and runs arbitrary JS (and then calls back into a plugin and the looking directly at the stack will cause you to mysteriously die after seven days)
  212. # [01:26] <johns> So we might run webgl inside a call to a plugin...
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  214. # [01:26] <jgilbert> johns, haha...ha... ;_;
  215. # [01:26] <Callek|Buildduty> gwagner: I see them scheduled.... at least
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  217. # [01:26] <johns> jgilbert: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/plugins/base/nsNPAPIPluginInstance.h#290
  218. # [01:26] <jgilbert> johns, ok, I'll be mindful of that
  219. # [01:26] <gwagner> Callek|Buildduty: ok wrong word from my side. why don't they start?
  220. # [01:27] <philor> Callek|Buildduty: huh, 260 pending spot tests, don't think I've ever seen that many
  221. # [01:27] <johns> jgilbert: Some call paths mark themselves as "unsafe" which, among other things, prevent the refresh driver from running, so I don't think blocking any GL anything there would hurt
  222. # [01:27] <johns> jgilbert: Which you can check with InPluginCallUnsafeForReentry
  223. # [01:28] <johns> jgilbert: But, BUT! For "safe" plugin calls we might call into a plugin which calls into *ProcessNextEvent* which runs anything including the refresh driver
  224. # [01:28] <Callek|Buildduty> philor: we have a LOT of running things atm
  225. # [01:28] <johns> Luckily, this only happens all the time.
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  227. # [01:28] <Callek|Buildduty> https://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/4810884
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  229. # [01:28] <jgilbert> johns, I think we can let webgl run normally. I just need to be careful about how I cache and dirty
  230. # [01:29] <johns> jgilbert: Well we might well do InitializePlugin->Plugin code->ProcessNextEvent->Refresh Driver
  231. # [01:29] <philor> 608 out of 600 running :)
  232. # [01:29] <johns> jgilbert: In which case those Begin/End calls would be called, but InPluginCallUnsafeForReentry would be false
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  235. # [01:30] <johns> "Safe for re-entry" basically means we're in a consistent state, and spinning nested event loops is "okay" similar to how alert() might spin nested event loops...
  236. # [01:30] <Callek|Buildduty> the extra 8 are due to windows in aws I *think*
  237. # [01:30] <Callek|Buildduty> either way, we're at our max capacity afaict
  238. # [01:31] <Callek|Buildduty> (at least as far as releng infra is concerned atm --- can probably be tweated, but not by me at 7:30pm local)
  239. # [01:31] <jgilbert> johns, oh man, nested event loops are my \favorite\
  240. # [01:31] <johns> jgilbert: Oh yeah, they're awesome and a totally good feature
  241. # [01:32] <johns> jgilbert: Whatever you end up with, try using it with the java plugin running. If it survives that it probably survives anything
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  244. # [01:32] <johns> jgilbert: Java's normal mode of operation is Javascript->Java (DispatchToJVMThread(); while(!GetJVMResponse) {SpinEventLoop();})
  245. # [01:32] <jgilbert> fuuun
  246. # [01:32] <johns> jgilbert: So just calling into java ever from JS almost 100% will spin the event loop
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  265. # [01:40] <froydnj> dholbert: we keep nightlies around from 2008?
  266. # [01:41] <dholbert> froydnj, we sure
  267. # [01:41] <dholbert> *sure
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  269. # [01:41] <dholbert> froydnj, https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/ goes back to 2004 :)
  270. # [01:41] <philor> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2004/02/2004-02-10-08-trunk/
  271. # [01:41] <froydnj> fun
  272. # [01:41] <dholbert> froydnj, https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2008/
  273. # [01:42] <philor> better yet, I've actually used those 2004 nightlies
  274. # [01:42] * froydnj is a little sad that he got rid of his xp machine now
  275. # [01:42] <philor> though probably not in the last four or five years
  276. # [01:42] <@smaug> Alice does occasionally regression hunting using old nightlies
  277. # [01:42] <dholbert> philor, I heard firefox's UI is changing soon. I'm sticking with my 2004 Nightly that looks the way I like it
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  280. # [01:42] <dholbert> froydnj, do you not have a windows machine?
  281. # [01:42] <nthomas> XSSelent idea
  282. # [01:42] <dholbert> froydnj, (or just not an XP machine?)
  283. # [01:42] <philor> dholbert: last time I looked, Qute actually was pretty cute, I should switch back
  284. # [01:43] <froydnj> dholbert: I have several windows machine, but I tossed my xp hard drive and installed win7
  285. # [01:43] <froydnj> just a couple of weeks ago
  286. # [01:43] <dholbert> froydnj, gotcha. I'd expect builds from 2008 to work on Win7, but not sure
  287. # [01:43] <froydnj> we'll find out!
  288. # [01:43] <dholbert> yay!
  289. # [01:45] <jez> how can I make without clobbering?
  290. # [01:45] <jez> unless I delete the objdir, what i'm changing doesn't seem to get updated
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  292. # [01:45] <dholbert> jez, "./mach build" should Just Work (or should tell you that you need a clobber, in rare cases)
  293. # [01:45] <dholbert> jez, if it doesn't, that's a bug
  294. # [01:46] <TimAbraldes> unless it's that purgecaches thing
  295. # [01:46] <TimAbraldes> (is that still an issue?)
  296. # [01:46] <nalexander> dholbert: jez: there's a MOZ_AUTO_CLOBBER or similar.
  297. # [01:46] <dholbert> jez, ("./mach build subdir" works for many subdirs, too, as does "./mach build binaries" if all you're changing is c++)
  298. # [01:46] <dholbert> nalexander, yeah, I didn't bother mentioning since he wants to _not_ clobber
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  300. # [01:46] <nalexander> dholbert: you're right, I parsed the conditional backwards.
  301. # [01:47] <jez> 'mach'?
  302. # [01:47] <jez> what is that? i'm not seeing it
  303. # [01:47] <nalexander> jez: it's in $SRCDIR.
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  305. # [01:47] <dholbert> it's an executable at the top level
  306. # [01:47] <dholbert> of mozilla-central
  307. # [01:47] <nalexander> jez: it's a Python command processor.
  308. # [01:47] <jez> the dir with moz.build in it?
  309. # [01:47] <jez> oh
  310. # [01:47] <jez> i've checked out comm-central... i want to build the suite
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  312. # [01:48] <dholbert> oh, I don't know if/how comm-central interacts with mach
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  314. # [01:48] <dholbert> or surefire ways to be sure something test compiled there
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  319. # [01:49] <dholbert> jez, it looks like thunderbird builds with mach, at least (not sure about seamonkey), based on https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Thunderbird_build#Building_Thunderbird
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  331. # [01:57] <DGMurdockIII> hi firefox wont let me undo a closed tab
  332. # [01:58] <DGMurdockIII> that part is grayed out when i right clcik on a tab
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  335. # [02:00] <terrence> does Ctrl+Shift+T work?
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  339. # [02:01] <DGMurdockIII> no
  340. # [02:01] <DGMurdockIII> and im on verson 29
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  343. # [02:01] <DGMurdockIII> it hasent worked since i installed verson 29
  344. # [02:02] <terrence> huh, works for me on 31
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  353. # [02:06] <DGMurdockIII> is there way i can fix it?
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  355. # [02:06] <froydnj> do you have any addons installed?
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  358. # [02:08] <seth> hmmm.. so recently, i'm not sure when, mach decided to refuse to build debug builds for me
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  360. # [02:08] <seth> it clearly thinks that it built a debug build. it tells me "To take your build for a test drive, run: .../NightlyDebug.app/..."
  361. # [02:08] <seth> the problem is that NightlyDebug.app doesn't actually exist. only Nightly.app, which is *not* a debug build
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  366. # [02:11] <seth> ahhh crud
  367. # [02:11] <seth> i used someone else's mozconfig, and i just realize they set their objdir to something custom. that's why.
  368. # [02:12] <seth> i just clobbered for nothing =(
  369. # [02:12] <froydnj> doh :(
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  374. # [02:14] <froydnj> friends don't let friends use their mozconfig
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  376. # [02:14] <@dbaron> hmmm, roc's link on cpu architectures tells me my desktop machine is older than I thought
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  380. # [02:16] <DGMurdockIII> froydnj: i only have chatzilla and adblock plus
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  385. # [02:18] <froydnj> DGMurdockIII: hm. does the problem persist if you restart with those disabled (see the "Restart with addons disabled" entry in the "Help" menu)
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  423. # [02:39] <@khuey> t mobile just sent me an email saying that they're upgrading my plan ... to what it already has
  424. # [02:39] * @khuey isn't quite sure what to make of that
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  430. # [02:40] <KaiRo> khuey: it's just making customers happy - most people don't realize the upgrade is without actual value
  431. # [02:41] <idwer> no change in ToS?
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  433. # [02:41] <@khuey> idwer: no idea
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  461. # [03:00] <seth> hmm
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  463. # [03:01] <seth> so when i reinstalled this machine i decided to try a modern gdb
  464. # [03:01] <seth> i'm not having much luck, though. gdb doesn't seem to be able to find any of the functions i want to break at
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  466. # [03:01] <froydnj> are they in anonymous namespaces?
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  469. # [03:02] <seth> froydnj: no, but they *are* built unified. i'm wondering if that's the problem. i saw on the wiki that lldb has trouble with it
  470. # [03:02] <shu> seth: i've never gotten a self-built modern gdb working
  471. # [03:02] <shu> seth: on os x
  472. # [03:02] <shu> seth: pretty sure it just can't read mach-o properly?
  473. # [03:03] <seth> shu: quite possible. it can read symbols from the main executable, so if i want to break in main(), that's great. it doesn't pick anything up from dynamic libraries though
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  475. # [03:03] <seth> i hear tell that dylib's and executables use different symbol formats on OS X, so maybe it supports one but not the other?
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  477. # [03:04] <froydnj> maybe the detached debug information is causing issues
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  479. # [03:04] <seth> froydnj: is this some new thing?
  480. # [03:04] <shu> seth: that is in fact why i switched to linux full time
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  482. # [03:04] <shu> seth: well, i use windows sometimes, so i should say, that is why i switched off os x full time
  483. # [03:05] <froydnj> seth: no, but apple's gdb has a ton of patches that mainline gdb does not
  484. # [03:05] <seth> shu: it's tempting. i wouldn't care about using lldb if not for the fact that i want the debugger integration in emacs to work!
  485. # [03:05] <shu> seth: VS debugger is pretty great
  486. # [03:05] <seth> froydnj: yup, i know it. why they can't merge those patches, i don't understand. (maybe the license change?)
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  488. # [03:06] <seth> shu: totally. it's the best i've used
  489. # [03:06] <froydnj> seth: apple employees are basically forbidden from doing anything related to gplv3 code
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  491. # [03:06] <froydnj> seth: though, really, I don't know that they were pushing too hard to get things upstream when it was still gplv2
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  494. # [03:07] <seth> froydnj: if i know the gnu guys i wouldn't be surprised to hear that they didn't make it easy
  495. # [03:07] <shu> seth: i don't know to what extent you want emacs integration
  496. # [03:07] <seth> just a hypothesis
  497. # [03:07] <shu> seth: i think pnkfelix hacked together a gud-lldb mode
  498. # [03:07] <seth> shu: oh really? very interesting
  499. # [03:07] <shu> seth: but you just get plain gud, not the fancy integrated gdb-mi stuff
  500. # [03:07] * froydnj never found getting patches in terribly difficult, but maybe I was just indoctrinated sufficiently well
  501. # [03:08] <shu> seth: yeah, ping pnkfelix, he's in paris though
  502. # [03:08] <seth> shu: does it follow along in the source when you step into/step out/etc? if so i'm in!
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  504. # [03:08] <shu> seth: probably
  505. # [03:08] <shu> seth: i never used it
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  507. # [03:08] <seth> that's really the main thing i want
  508. # [03:08] <shu> yeah
  509. # [03:08] <seth> cool, will ping him
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  511. # [03:09] <shu> i used to think that's the main thing i wanted
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  514. # [03:09] <shu> now i think the main thing i want is for the goddamn debugger to not crash when i call some function that crashes from inside it
  515. # [03:09] <seth> froydnj: well, since i get my knowledge of this stuff from linux rumors sites i'm probably biased by seeing only the most negative stuff, because it makes the best news =) never tried to contribute to any gnu project
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  517. # [03:09] <froydnj> seth: heh
  518. # [03:10] <froydnj> seth: I can imagine it being difficult, I have seen some of the patch review emails for things apple proposed
  519. # [03:10] <seth> shu: that actually works ok for me on apple's gdb, but that gdb is so old that it doesn't work with emacs =\
  520. # [03:11] <shu> seth: wait, really? what i mean is: suppose i hit a breakpoint, then i do |gdb> call crashyFn()|, now i can't continue from the original breakpoint anymore
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  524. # [03:12] <seth> shu: i think that works for me in *some* cases. i've been able to recover from segfaults before in functions i've called
  525. # [03:13] <seth> shu: i doubt recovery is always possible, though. you're probably calling low-level JS engine stuff that borks all registers and sets the machine on fire
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  527. # [03:13] <shu> seth: nah if i'm in jitcode i just single step, and thankfully gdb doesn't crash doing that at least :)
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  530. # [03:14] <tbsaunde> froydnj: was apple proposing crazy things or what?
  531. # [03:14] <seth> shu: heh, gives you the bare minimum at least =)
  532. # [03:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a71fbba0656 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 996564 - Mar command line help is wrong and fix libmar warning. r=spohl
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  535. # [03:15] <seth> tbsaunde: froydnj: i was kinda imagining apple putting together a huge patch and throwing it over the fence all at once. i've seen that happen at other companies when lawyers and open source meet. people don't like it =)
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  549. # [03:22] <froydnj> seth: that was certainly part of it
  550. # [03:22] <froydnj> tbsaunde: ^
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  568. # [03:31] <shu> froydnj: funny, i just saw a tweet calling for dependency analysis of webkit tests in their test harness
  569. # [03:32] <froydnj> shu: heh, where was that?
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  573. # [03:33] <philor> http://mozilla-releng-blobs.s3.amazonaws.com/blobs/mozilla-inbound/sha512/0144e471089f2319c7d4697ce15ce0ceb0257d333fff3049fb901c53351ac05d7180539e98eda5a52c2dc965b72313fe26600e1acea3b64b87080fd88aa57fb8
  574. # [03:33] <shu> stupid question, how do i link a tweet
  575. # [03:34] <philor> whose tiny little window, with focus, during a reftest, is that?
  576. # [03:34] <heycam> philor, that's been showing up for months, opens at the start of running reftests
  577. # [03:34] <@roc> I always get that window when starting reftests
  578. # [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b300ff71f9b0 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 966630 - Clamp level to TexImage operations to [0..31]. r=jgilbert
  579. # [03:34] <shu> froydnj: https://twitter.com/brrian/status/456216083595132929
  580. # [03:34] <philor> huh
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  582. # [03:35] <froydnj> shu: I guess we can be happy we're not the only ones
  583. # [03:35] <shu> froydnj: yeah
  584. # [03:35] <shu> froydnj: but we have a decade extra's worth of tests as an excuse, right?
  585. # [03:36] <froydnj> maybe e10s can just make every test run in its own child process or something
  586. # [03:36] <@roc> just run tests with "shuffle" and rr and fix all the bugs
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  588. # [03:36] <shu> ez
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  590. # [03:37] <froydnj> heh
  591. # [03:37] <philor> oh, I bet that little window is the "if you want focus, you jolly well better ask for it" window
  592. # [03:37] <froydnj> philor: yeah
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  607. # [03:45] <@dbaron> philor, that window is there to steal focus
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  609. # [03:45] <@dbaron> philor, to ensure that tests that aren't marked with needs-focus don't need focus
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  611. # [03:46] <@dbaron> philor, so that if somebody forgets to add needs-focus the test will fail reliably rather than some small % of the time
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  613. # [03:46] <philor> dbaron: thanks, thought that must be it, once I vaguely remembered having not really read the bugmail about that :)
  614. # [03:48] <philor> now if only we could get rid of mouseover
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  618. # [03:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/047a7ab99a6e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  619. # [03:48] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37874971&tree=Mozilla-Inbound being the result of a stray mouse over various buttons and checkboxes
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  625. # [03:50] <philor> hmm, are those all needs-focus, or do we actually draw mouseover on Windows form controls when the window isn't focused?
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  634. # [03:54] <rstrong> ehsan: do you know where a language defines whether it is rtl or not?
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  636. # [03:54] <@ehsan> rstrong: what do you mean?
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  638. # [03:55] <rstrong> ehsan: what determines if a locale is rtl?
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  640. # [03:55] <@ehsan> we have a fixed set of supported rtl locales
  641. # [03:55] <rstrong> right and where is that defined in our codebase
  642. # [03:56] <@ehsan> rstrong: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libpref/src/init/all.js#1454
  643. # [03:56] <rstrong> Thanks!
  644. # [03:56] <@ehsan> np
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  646. # [03:56] <@ehsan> rstrong: are you trying to check for this in code?
  647. # [03:57] <rstrong> ehsan: no, it looks like Urdu's installer isn't set to be rtl and I wanted to verify all locales
  648. # [03:57] <@ehsan> ah I see
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  650. # [03:57] <@ehsan> rstrong: I r+ed the patch to add Urdu to our list, so if I've missed something please let me know :)
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  652. # [03:58] <rstrong> ehsan: for future reference this file also needs to be updated http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/installer/windows/nsis/locales.nsi
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  654. # [03:58] <seth> wow, it's been a very long time since i used xcode's debugger. i'm impressed. it's actually not bad now
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  656. # [03:59] <seth> i think i'm gonna use it instead of gdb from now on
  657. # [03:59] <@ehsan> rstrong: uh-oh, sorry :(
  658. # [03:59] <@ehsan> rstrong: ug and ur are missing there
  659. # [03:59] <rstrong> ehsan: no worries and I'll get it updated :)
  660. # [03:59] <@ehsan> ty
  661. # [03:59] <rstrong> ehsan: who is ug?
  662. # [04:00] <rstrong> I don't see it in bugzilla
  663. # [04:00] <@ehsan> rstrong: Uyghur
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  665. # [04:00] <@ehsan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_language
  666. # [04:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d8e8e9c6bf09 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 989408 - Add checking IPCOpen to ShadowLayerForwarder r=nical,bjacob
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  670. # [04:01] <rstrong> ehsan: it doesn't appear to be in l10n aurora, beta, or release either
  671. # [04:01] <@ehsan> hmm
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  673. # [04:01] <@ehsan> not sure why that is
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  675. # [04:01] <@ehsan> rstrong: we added it in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958577
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  677. # [04:02] <@ehsan> rstrong: I guess you should let Pike know...
  678. # [04:02] <rstrong> ehsan: cool... looks like they are just starting with setting it up and haven't added any code yet
  679. # [04:03] <@ehsan> makes sense
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  708. # [04:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b45fb59280c6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 996955 - Remove nsIDOMTouch; r=bzbarsky
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  715. # [04:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8dfc1efbb580 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 996378 - Use Moz2D for gfxCallbackDrawable. r=roc
  716. # [04:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ae585238d9a8 - Robert Strong - Bug 996960 - Add new RTL languages to locales.nsi - Uyghur ug and Urdu ur. r=ehsan
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  721. # [04:27] <@ehsan> khuey++
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  724. # [04:28] <bz_away> ehsan: ping
  725. # [04:28] <@ehsan> bz_away: hey
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  728. # [04:28] <bz> ehsan: so DefineConstants
  729. # [04:28] <@ehsan> ok
  730. # [04:29] <bz> I can take a look locally, or I can point you in a possibly-correct direction
  731. # [04:29] <bz> ehsan: preferences? ;)
  732. # [04:29] <@ehsan> lol
  733. # [04:29] <@ehsan> what do you think I'm going to answer? ;)
  734. # [04:29] <bz> I dunno
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  736. # [04:29] <bz> It depends on how much xpconnect you're trying to learn as part of this exercise!
  737. # [04:29] <@ehsan> I'd appreciate if you can take a look :)
  738. # [04:29] <bz> ok
  739. # [04:29] <@ehsan> bz: zero?
  740. # [04:29] <bz> lol
  741. # [04:29] <@ehsan> :D
  742. # [04:30] <bz> You're already past that point!
  743. # [04:30] <@ehsan> but jokes aside
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  746. # [04:30] <bz> ok
  747. # [04:30] <@ehsan> I don't mind digging in deeper
  748. # [04:30] <bz> I'll check my hypothesis
  749. # [04:30] <@ehsan> but not tonight :)
  750. # [04:30] <bz> which I estimate has a 90% chance of being correct
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  752. # [04:30] * @ehsan has been working for ~14hrs
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  755. # [04:30] * bz needs to push first
  756. # [04:30] <bz> uh.....
  757. # [04:30] <bz> yes
  758. # [04:30] <bz> stop
  759. # [04:30] <bz> Now.
  760. # [04:30] <@ehsan> lol
  761. # [04:30] <froydnj> go to bed
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  763. # [04:30] <@ehsan> I was planning on making dinner first!
  764. # [04:31] * deian|away is now known as deian|train
  765. # [04:31] * RyanVM|afk keeps plodding along
  766. # [04:31] <froydnj> eat, then go to bed, yes
  767. # [04:31] <@ehsan> bz: so can you please comment on the bug with what I need to do?
  768. # [04:31] <bz> yes
  769. # [04:31] <@ehsan> froydnj: can do!
  770. # [04:31] <bz> will do
  771. # [04:31] <@ehsan> bz: thanks
  772. # [04:31] <bz> No problem
  773. # [04:31] <bz> Thank _you_
  774. # [04:31] <@ehsan> bz: fwiw I might have missed something entirely trivial
  775. # [04:31] <froydnj> RyanVM|afk: take one test done, disable the test, 105 intermittent oranges left in the tree...
  776. # [04:32] * froydnj sees typoes, decides it's time to go to bed himself
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  778. # [04:32] <@ehsan> froydnj: system works ;)
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  780. # [04:32] * @ehsan is now going to call it a night'
  781. # [04:32] <RyanVM|afk> I file my best bugs when I'm at 15 hours
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  783. # [04:33] <froydnj> RyanVM|afk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996718#c3
  784. # [04:33] <bz> Nice green tree you have there
  785. # [04:33] * bz gets some patches ready to land
  786. # [04:33] <RyanVM|afk> bz: lol @ 50 unstarred being the new "green"
  787. # [04:34] <froydnj> ...shame if anything were to happen to it
  788. # [04:34] * RyanVM|afk gets back to starring/filing
  789. # [04:34] <froydnj> orange is the new green
  790. # [04:34] <bz> RyanVM|afk: :(
  791. # [04:34] <bz> RyanVM|afk: I plan to try out rr tomorro!
  792. # [04:34] <bz> er, tomorrow
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  794. # [04:34] <bz> Also the "green" part for me is the text "Open"
  795. # [04:34] <bz> it's in green
  796. # [04:34] <bz> so I'm good
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  799. # [04:35] <RyanVM|afk> bz: I'm honestly at the point tonight where I don't care anymore
  800. # [04:35] <bz> RyanVM|afk: :(
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  805. # [04:37] * RyanVM|afk wonders which of the eleventy billion Gaia subcomponents a rocketbar orange gets filed in
  806. # [04:37] <RyanVM|afk> System sounds nice and generic
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  808. # [04:39] <tbsaunde> khuey++
  809. # [04:39] <RyanVM|afk> tbsaunde: I thought MFBT was supposed to be a Gecko STL of sorts?
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  815. # [04:41] <rnewman> or a dumping ground, depending on your perspective
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  821. # [04:44] <RyanVM|afk> *sigh* I've been filing/starring for 10 min or so on inbound now, and the number of unstarred has gone *up*
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  823. # [04:44] <@dolske> (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
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  825. # [04:45] <bz> RyanVM|afk: :(
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  828. # [04:45] <philor> RyanVM|afk: are you filing on ones that https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/commit/fd745244dad5f213fbc44bf12c8a78c71e638b5f already disabled?
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  831. # [04:46] <RyanVM|afk> philor: no, I found out about that after I already did
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  833. # [04:46] <philor> last time I got foolish enough to file on b2g failures, I found out from the summary search that they'd been disabled for 12 hours or so
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  840. # [04:47] * bz thought philor was waving goodbye to socialists...
  841. # [04:48] <philor> frameworkers of the world, unite!
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  844. # [04:48] <philor> now, should I kill it on the tree that owns the test, or the tree that broke it?
  845. # [04:49] <RyanVM|afk> philor: kill it on m-c so I can merge it back in a little bit
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  848. # [04:49] <RyanVM|afk> and I think the CxxStackFrame patch that landed made things worse than they already were
  849. # [04:49] <philor> sure seems like it to me
  850. # [04:50] <RyanVM|afk> and we won't even discuss the media mochitests
  851. # [04:50] <philor> if I thought it wouldn't start a push war, I'd disable every single one of them, to help them focus on their need to fix them
  852. # [04:50] <RyanVM|afk> kentuckyfriedtakahe ^
  853. # [04:50] <RyanVM|afk> (fwiw)
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  855. # [04:51] <philor> the *only* thing they have going for them is that they wait until shutdown to crash
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  857. # [04:51] <philor> if not for that, I'd disable every single one of them anyway
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  859. # [04:52] <RyanVM|afk> yep, B2G emulator still times out multiple times per push
  860. # [04:52] <RyanVM|afk> better get on filing each and every one of those
  861. # [04:52] <philor> hmm, wonder whether browser_frameworker_sandbox.js is going to inherit the failure
  862. # [04:52] <RyanVM|afk> yes
  863. # [04:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eacdbceea76d - Monica Chew - Bug 991177: Disallow overrides for SEC_ERROR_CA_CERT_INVALID (r=keeler)
  864. # [04:52] <RyanVM|afk> learn from my mistakes on the release branches :P
  865. # [04:52] <philor> both it is, then
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  867. # [04:53] <RyanVM|afk> philor: hell, you can probably even add it to the bug I already have on file for re-enabling it on them :)
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  871. # [04:55] <RyanVM|afk> philor: do we have a bug somewhere for the "reftest fails because the button is selected in one screenshot but not the other" ?
  872. # [04:55] <RyanVM|afk> I feel like we have to somewhere
  873. # [04:56] <philor> I think we've blamed it on the slave's failure to heed the stuff that moves it, not sure
  874. # [04:56] <philor> or maybe like resolution, that's Win7-only
  875. # [04:56] <philor> slave seems to have been fine earlier today
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  877. # [04:57] <RyanVM|afk> philor: if you're pushing backouts to m-c, mind backing out the cxxstackframe patch while you're at it?
  878. # [04:57] <RyanVM|afk> might as well get that merged around too
  879. # [04:58] <philor> sure
  880. # [04:58] <RyanVM|afk> thanks
  881. # [04:58] <RyanVM|afk> i'm planning an inbound merge once I get this current mess sorted
  882. # [04:59] <RyanVM|afk> oh boy, a new media-element-source-seek-1.html crash!
  883. # [04:59] * RyanVM|afk gets ready to do some clonin;
  884. # [04:59] * bz wonders about our media code sometimes
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  886. # [05:00] <bz> it seems disproportionately citrusy
  887. # [05:00] * RyanVM|afk will reserve comment
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  889. # [05:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0057045ace5 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 843840 part 2. Add a way to ask DOM proxies for only their enumerable property names, and use that in the enumerate hook. r=peterv
  890. # [05:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9ec9de606a8 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 995546. Nix bogus GetParentObject methods on WebIDL objects without a wrapper cache. r=bholley
  891. # [05:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af250d9dee47 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 995295. Make console.trace() faster when the console is closed by avoiding reification of the stack until someone actually asks for it. r=baku
  892. # [05:00] <nigelb> morning
  893. # [05:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17f84a2187f2 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 822442. Keep track of DOM proxies in TI, like other DOM objects, so we can do the same call/get/set optimizaations with them. r=efaust
  894. # [05:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ffe0fe626e0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 843840 part 1. Add a way to ask DOM proxies with a named getter whether a property is enumerable or not and use that information in getOwnPropertyDescriptor.
  895. # [05:01] <firebot> r=peterv
  896. # [05:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/26209c172150 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out e17d61d6acf6 (bug 924622) for apparently making the mismatched CxxStackFrame aborts more frequent rather than less
  897. # [05:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ea50c3918fa1 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 994300 - Disable browser_frameworker.js and browser_frameworker_sandbox.js on OS X debug for constant assertions
  898. # [05:03] <nigelb> Is the devtools test sort of "beta"?
  899. # [05:03] <nigelb> seems to fail often.
  900. # [05:03] <nigelb> Or is that normal for new tests on tbpl?
  901. # [05:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b5adf335ed1b - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_26b2_RELEASE for changeset FIREFOX_29_0b8_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
  902. # [05:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/87fab9e3d63f - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_26b2_BUILD1 for changeset FIREFOX_29_0b8_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
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  905. # [05:05] <RyanVM|afk> nigelb: long story
  906. # [05:05] <philor> you two! stop starring the failure I'm disabling while I'm trying to comment about disabling it!
  907. # [05:05] <RyanVM|afk> on the bright side, of all the orange currently inflicting tbpl, that's actually what I feel most optimistic about
  908. # [05:05] <RyanVM|afk> philor: shoudl be done now
  909. # [05:05] <RyanVM|afk> I mass-starred the rest that were showing
  910. # [05:06] <philor> goodness gracious, there's not much unstarred left on inbound
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  912. # [05:06] <RyanVM|afk> slowly but surely
  913. # [05:06] <RyanVM|afk> only 35min in now
  914. # [05:06] <RyanVM|afk> not counting the other integration branches I did before that
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  918. # [05:07] <RyanVM|afk> nigelb: want to brush up your orange filing skills? :)
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  920. # [05:07] <nigelb> philor: sorry ^_^
  921. # [05:08] <nigelb> RyanVM|afk: haha, sure :D
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  923. # [05:08] <philor> nigelb: 'twas a joke, there's no better way to demonstrate that you were right to disable something than to be midaired twice while saying you did
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  925. # [05:08] <nigelb> haha
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  930. # [05:10] <RyanVM|afk> lol FML
  931. # [05:10] <RyanVM|afk> more media crashtest hangs
  932. # [05:11] * RyanVM|afk CCs the usual suspects
  933. # [05:11] <nigelb> Is there something special aobut the RC failures?
  934. # [05:11] <nigelb> I've seen quite a few on inbound and fx-team
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  937. # [05:12] <RyanVM|afk> the 2.2 ones?
  938. # [05:12] <RyanVM|afk> IIRC, probably a slave issue that nobody's looking into
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  940. # [05:14] <nigelb> ah
  941. # [05:14] <nigelb> (yes, the 2.2 ones)
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  944. # [05:14] * philor wonders where the checkin for bug 995820 is
  945. # [05:15] <philor> sort of hoping to be able to stand showall=1 again soon
  946. # [05:16] <nigelb> The Mac 10.8 leaks don't look Intermittent.
  947. # [05:16] <nigelb> I don't see a green on any tree.
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  949. # [05:17] <nigelb> Is that the one you were going to disable?
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  951. # [05:19] <RyanVM|afk> nigelb: no, the bc3 crashes
  952. # [05:19] <RyanVM|afk> nigelb: /me hopes that the cxxstackframe backout might help with those, though
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  954. # [05:20] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=34eaf4712039
  955. # [05:20] <RyanVM|afk> since it could be related to shutdown ordering
  956. # [05:20] <philor> yes, 10.8 debug mochitest-1 is the media tests we would love to be able to disable, but we can't, and they aren't actually perma, just awful
  957. # [05:21] <philor> unless e.faust actually made the leak permanent, and I get to back him out for yet another completely bizarre failure :)
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  960. # [05:22] <philor> but "every single run since noon has at least leaked, if not leaked, hung on shutdown, and leaked" is not at all surprising by their current standards
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  962. # [05:23] <RyanVM|afk> hasn't that poor guy been through enough already?
  963. # [05:24] <philor> if someone's down, kicking them requires far less effort, hardly have to lift your foot
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  965. # [05:25] <philor> jchen: can I push your bug 995820 patches? the permaorange is getting on my nerves
  966. # [05:25] <RyanVM|afk> it's got checkin-needed
  967. # [05:26] <jchen> philor: yup they're ready
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  969. # [05:26] <philor> oh, heh, so it does - I saw when the keyword came off, didn't see it went back on
  970. # [05:26] <RyanVM|afk> merging inbound now
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  973. # [05:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90a54293fd84 - Jim Chen - Bug 995820 - Add more docs for JavascriptBridge
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  975. # [05:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6ed5860261f - Jim Chen - Bug 995820 - Wait for JavaBridge to load before sending messages to it; r=mcomella
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  978. # [05:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5a2fd00c18e0 - Mike Conley - Bug 996148 - With tabs in titlebar disabled, the private browsing mask can be incorrectly positioned in certain modes. r=MattN. a=gavin.
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  981. # [05:31] <RyanVM|afk> philor: lol, there's even backstory to that
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  983. # [05:32] <RyanVM|afk> he hit it on his try push and was trying to figure out what to do about it earlier today
  984. # [05:32] <RyanVM|afk> apparently the answer he arrived at was "push it anyway"
  985. # [05:32] <mattwoodrow> didn’t he push a followup to fix it?
  986. # [05:32] <philor> yeah, I was trying to decide whether to blame it on him or the gfx push below when I saw him talking about try
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  988. # [05:33] <philor> don't think his followup would have done anything, since it was something about debug vs. not, and he broke both opt and debug
  989. # [05:34] <philor> oh, different followup, and not the other other followup either
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  993. # [05:34] <philor> but missed the 6pm -kk
  994. # [05:35] <philor> guess I'll have to trigger some the hard way
  995. # [05:35] <philor> but it's fine, releng, nothing wrong with this as a supposed attempt at creating a tier-1 build
  996. # [05:36] <philor> WSM!
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  1001. # [05:39] <bz> Looking into that orange
  1002. # [05:39] <bz> which might well be me
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  1012. # [05:46] <bz> hrm
  1013. # [05:46] <bz> how do I run the devtools tests locally nowadays?
  1014. # [05:47] <bz> or actually, nevermind
  1015. # [05:47] <philor> ./mach devtools
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  1017. # [05:47] <philor> err, mochitest-devtools
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  1020. # [05:50] <philor> "[Child][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: Route erREFTEST TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL"
  1021. # [05:50] <philor> a lovely self-contained nutshell
  1022. # [05:50] <bz> philor: the bc2 is definitely me
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  1041. # [06:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3cbf4cac7fe - Boris Zbarsky - Back out revision af250d9dee47 (bug 995295) because it doesn't work for domains that are not on the xul/xbl whitelist.
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  1056. # [06:17] <philor> and boy did WebContentConverter prematurely optimize
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  1060. # [06:17] <philor> the very accent I use for it
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  1071. # [06:29] <@dbaron> philor, your winnings, sir
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  1073. # [06:30] <philor> oh, thank you very much
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  1075. # [06:31] <philor> I did actually check to be sure it wasn't *my* comment, though
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  1085. # [06:36] <@njn> The execution of |for each| involves creating an iterator object, is that right?
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  1092. # [06:40] <philor> oh, thank you very much
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  1094. # [06:41] <bz> actually, nevermind
  1095. # [06:41] <bz> will land it tomorrow
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  1097. # [06:41] * bz should get another review first
  1098. # [06:41] <dmajor> Australis in Windows Server 2003. I think it looks quite nice! http://i.imgur.com/RbmnKuW.png
  1099. # [06:41] <jesup> philor: great, no tests left! ALl green all the time then
  1100. # [06:41] <philor> no tests owned by people who come across with the green, anyway
  1101. # [06:42] <bz> dmajor: sure fits right in with the curvy buttons on that toolbar at the bottom
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  1106. # [06:46] <@njn> dmajor: I'm afraid it doesn't meet my Company Standards
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  1109. # [06:49] <dmajor> njn: unfortunately it does meet our system requirements :(
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  1111. # [06:50] <@njn> dmajor: you probably don't read mozilla-governance; there was a strange email from someone in Germany saying they would no longer recommend Firefox to their customers because of Australia
  1112. # [06:50] <@njn> *Australis
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  1114. # [06:50] <@njn> dmajor: it is "too generic" and "doesn't meet their company standards"
  1115. # [06:51] <dmajor> njn: um. wow.
  1116. # [06:52] <@njn> dmajor: full text: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4813921
  1117. # [06:52] <@njn> I forgot "idealess"
  1118. # [06:54] * @njn wonders what "unique software" means
  1119. # [06:55] <dmajor> it will be amusing if they recommend chrome instead.
  1120. # [06:55] <@njn> I have a few custom scripts in my ~/bin/ directory, maybe that counts as unique software
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  1122. # [06:55] <@njn> dmajor: I have this amusing image in my head of them sitting down, evaluating FF29 with their Company Standards in hand, and tut-tutting over each failed checkbox
  1123. # [06:56] <@njn> somehow I suspect that's not how it went, though
  1124. # [06:59] <nigelb> njn: http://ankermann-edv.de/?language=en
  1125. # [07:00] <nigelb> their workstation does look "unique"....
  1126. # [07:00] <nigelb> Or, does it?
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  1166. # [07:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b56027688b72 - Chris Peterson - Bug 995654 - Suppress gcc -Wuninitialized warning in third-party code: libvorbis. r=derf
  1167. # [07:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2c2c5ed7e9b - Chris Peterson - Bug 984073 - Fix warning in double-conversion and suppress warnings in lz4. r=Waldo
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  1402. # [09:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7d16b940352 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 3d0426ac98f1 (bug 942367)
  1403. # [09:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d80acdb6ce2c - Patrick Brosset - Bug 825410 - intermittent browser_inspector_pseudoclass_lock.js test failures; r=bgrins
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  1464. # [10:44] <till> Yoric: that German moz.gov response yesterday was a resounding success
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  1467. # [10:45] <sewardj> h4writer: ping
  1468. # [10:45] <h4writer> sewardj, pong
  1469. # [10:45] <sewardj> h4writer: 995564 .. the Math.cos thing .. does it involve 80-bit floating point arithmetic?
  1470. # [10:45] <sewardj> or only 64 bit?
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  1473. # [10:46] <h4writer> sewardj, no idea yet
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  1476. # [10:46] <h4writer> sewardj, why?
  1477. # [10:46] <sewardj> h4writer: also, have you been able to reproduce it not-on-valgrind?
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  1480. # [10:47] <h4writer> sewardj, no I haven't been able to reproduce on not-valgrind
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  1482. # [10:47] <sewardj> h4writer: V simulates 80 bit FP arithmetic imprecisely, using 64 bit precision only
  1483. # [10:47] <sewardj> h4writer: very occasionally, this causes problems
  1484. # [10:47] <h4writer> sewardj, oh, that would make sense
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  1486. # [10:48] <sewardj> h4writer: and so was wondering just in case this has something to do with the precise values returned by Math.cos
  1487. # [10:48] <sewardj> h4writer: it's unlikely, but not completely unknown
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  1491. # [10:49] <h4writer> sewardj, well the issue is that we compute the range in c++ (during Range Analysis) and that afterwards we have checks to make sure the values in ASM code stay in that bound
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  1493. # [10:49] <h4writer> sewardj, and the code it trips on is the double bounds
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  1496. # [10:49] <h4writer> sewardj, so it might be related!
  1497. # [10:50] <sewardj> h4writer: can you show me where the range computation code is, and also where the check code generation is?
  1498. # [10:51] <h4writer> sewardj, the checks get added in jit/CodeGenerator.cpp:8336
  1499. # [10:51] <h4writer> sewardj, the range is computed in jit/RangeAnalysis.cpp
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  1503. # [10:52] <h4writer> sewardj, would it be possible to let valgrind simulate the full 80bit ?
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  1506. # [10:54] <h4writer> sewardj, uh, thinking about it, we only use 64bit fp in ASM. I don't know about the c++ code. (I think "double" is also 64bit fp?)
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  1510. # [10:56] <sewardj> h4writer: hmm
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  1514. # [10:56] <sewardj> h4writer: not sure about all this. Can you get me the code generated by emitAssertRangeD, to look at?
  1515. # [10:57] <sewardj> h4writer: my initial reaction is that this is a FP-precision problem caused by V, but I am really not sure
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  1518. # [10:58] <h4writer> 0x51b6d5f: movsd 0x51b7298,%xmm1
  1519. # [10:58] <h4writer> 0x51b6d67: ucomisd %xmm0,%xmm1
  1520. # [10:58] <h4writer> 0x51b6d6b: jae 0x51b6deb
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  1522. # [10:58] <h4writer> sewardj, ^^ this is the one tripping ;)
  1523. # [10:58] <sewardj> h4writer: and the constant it is loading from 0x51b7298 .. what is that?
  1524. # [11:00] <h4writer> sewardj, 0x51b7298: 0x00000000 0x3ff00000
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  1527. # [11:01] <sewardj> h4writer: that is +1.0
  1528. # [11:01] <h4writer> sewardj, indeed
  1529. # [11:02] <sewardj> h4writer: (sorry, one more q) and what is in the lane 0 of %xmm0?
  1530. # [11:02] <sewardj> h4writer: iow, I would like to know what values are being compared
  1531. # [11:02] <h4writer> sewardj v2_double = {1e+26, 0},
  1532. # [11:02] <sewardj> no NaNs other other strangeness?
  1533. # [11:03] <h4writer> sewardj, I'm not sure what the NaN value would be
  1534. # [11:03] <h4writer> sewardj, but I don't think so
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  1539. # [11:06] <sewardj> h4writer: strange.
  1540. # [11:06] <sewardj> h4writer: that should be OK. Maybe it's unrelated.
  1541. # [11:07] <h4writer> sewardj, maybe. Gonna look deeper
  1542. # [11:07] <sewardj> h4writer: I'll test V to check it can do that comparison correctly.
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  1547. # [11:11] <h4writer> sewardj, ok
  1548. # [11:11] <Yoric> till: Really? Cool.
  1549. # [11:11] <h4writer> sewardj, this tests: 1e+26 >= +1, right?
  1550. # [11:12] <h4writer> sewardj, so it should jump right?
  1551. # [11:12] <till> Yoric: yep, he sent me a nice message thanking me for the explanation and saying that that convinced him to change his opinion on the events
  1552. # [11:12] <sewardj> h4writer: I don't know.
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  1554. # [11:12] <sewardj> h4writer: I only care if it jumps one way with V and the other way on the real cpu
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  1556. # [11:12] <h4writer> sewardj, well I think it is jumping wrongly
  1557. # [11:13] <sewardj> h4writer: testing .. one minute
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  1564. # [11:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/dc87f47062ce - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 2566c7e54dcf (bug 993162) for suspecting this caused dt tools bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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  1566. # [11:16] <Yoric> till: Cool.
  1567. # [11:17] <Yoric> I received a few of these, too, but in English :)
  1568. # [11:17] <Yoric> (and one in French)
  1569. # [11:17] <till> yeah, I received some others, too
  1570. # [11:17] <Ms2ger> till++
  1571. # [11:17] <Ms2ger> Yoric++
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  1575. # [11:20] <till> Ms2ger: thanks :)
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  1577. # [11:22] <sewardj> h4writer: I can't show any error on V
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  1579. # [11:22] <h4writer> sewardj, I'm trying to prove my idea ;)
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  1582. # [11:23] <sewardj> h4writer: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4816388
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  1587. # [11:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> trees are reopen
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  1620. # [11:47] <h4writer> sewardj, so apparently the result of jsmath.cpp:410 (fast_sincos) is totally wrong! That gives 1e26 instead of something in -1/1
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  1623. # [11:48] <h4writer> sewardj, could it be that we use 80bit fp operations there?
  1624. # [11:48] <sewardj> h4writer: ah, interesting
  1625. # [11:48] <sewardj> let me have alook
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  1627. # [11:51] <sewardj> h4writer: you see that fast_sincos gives the problem to libm if the arg is outside the range 2^32 - 2
  1628. # [11:51] <h4writer> sewardj, indeed
  1629. # [11:51] <sewardj> h4writer: so the first question is, does V and not-V take the same direction with that if (..) ?
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  1631. # [11:52] <h4writer> sewardj, that should be easily testable
  1632. # [11:52] <sewardj> h4writer: and secondly, assuming that's ok, does V and not-V get the same result for libm cos() and sin() ?
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  1634. # [11:52] <h4writer> sewardj, ok, I just patched it quickly to always use libm
  1635. # [11:52] <h4writer> sewardj, and the error is also in there
  1636. # [11:53] <sewardj> h4writer: so I suspect that the problem is that V produces different results for libm cos/sin(1e+26) than non-V
  1637. # [11:54] <sewardj> h4writer: can you verify that?
  1638. # [11:54] <h4writer> sewardj, yes that is correct
  1639. # [11:54] <sewardj> h4writer: ok. that makes it a much smaller problem.
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  1641. # [12:00] <sewardj> h4writer: ah. you're working with 32-bit x86 yes?
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  1643. # [12:02] <h4writer> sewardj, yes
  1644. # [12:03] <bbouvier> fwiw, 32 bits x86 compilers use 80 bits instructions sometimes (e.g. for divisions), not sure if that might be related to your problem
  1645. # [12:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/35603c406f26 - Tim Taubert - Bug 824021 - Don't clear set of windows to resurrect on write when receiving messages r=yoric
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  1648. # [12:03] <sewardj> h4writer: bbouvier: this is definitely a V problem. I can reproduce it here.
  1649. # [12:03] <h4writer> bbouvier, well it might be related. As in we will have to make sure we don't see these problems when running valgrind
  1650. # [12:04] <h4writer> sewardj, ah I see
  1651. # [12:04] <h4writer> sewardj, so that's good
  1652. # [12:04] <h4writer> sewardj, but still it would be good to make sure valgrind doesn't trip on it
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  1657. # [12:07] <Ms2ger> OH: "Ahh, I see what it is trying to do. That is really, really clever. (As it should be because I think it's roc's idea.)"
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  1659. # [12:08] <sewardj> h4writer: sorry .. what's the bug number again?
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  1661. # [12:08] <h4writer> sewardj, bug 995564
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  1663. # [12:09] <sewardj> h4writer: thx
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  1666. # [12:13] <sewardj> h4writer: commented in the bug
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  1683. # [12:27] <RoelN> I'm interested in OpenType features being built into Firefox, like Mozilla's own SVG-in-OpenType and Microsoft's CPAL/COLR stuff... is that something that's being discussed in this channel, or are there better ones?
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  1687. # [12:30] <Archae> RoelN: you could try #svg
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  1694. # [12:34] <RoelN> Archae: thanks, will check that out... I can't use /list because apparently it's too big for IrcCloud to handle. Are there any font/type-related channels by any chance?
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  1698. # [12:36] <till> can someone please ban the user "ak"?
  1699. # [12:37] <till> I can provide a pm chat log for the reason
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  1703. # [12:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> till: maybe #it is a better channel for that
  1704. # [12:40] <till> Tomcat|sheriffduty: good point
  1705. # [12:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh btw till i did the checkin needed for bug 980742 and changed the r=till in the commit message since you reviewed the patch, hope thats ok :)
  1706. # [12:41] <till> Tomcat|sheriffduty: oh, right. Thanks :)
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  1709. # [12:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm is
  1710. # [12:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Robert Longson
  1711. # [12:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> on irc ?
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  1761. # [13:29] <mcsmurf> someone has/had problems on "hg pull" lately? "hg pull" for another repository on hg.m.o seems to work fine...having issues with mozillla-beta
  1762. # [13:29] <mcsmurf> "pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/ searching for changes
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  1767. # [13:29] <tbsaunde> so, where do we keep the config for the vpn now that its not on intranet.mo?
  1768. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1de460b83dc - Shian-Yow Wu - Bug 945152 - Part 2: Report mapped array buffer statistics for about:memory. r=njn
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  1770. # [13:29] <mcsmurf> An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host"
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  1776. # [13:33] <mcsmurf> hm, I'll try a new clone, lets see
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  1781. # [13:36] <nemo> so. I'm used to using ctrl-pageup/ctrl-pagedown to scroll through tabs
  1782. # [13:36] <mcsmurf> new clone seems to work *sigh*
  1783. # [13:36] <nemo> which works great until I hit my about:config tab
  1784. # [13:36] <nemo> where all of a suddent ctrl-pageup/ctrl-pagedown stops working
  1785. # [13:36] <nemo> this seems to be new behaviour, but I'm not sure how new
  1786. # [13:37] <nemo> anyway, kind of annoying
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  1788. # [13:37] <mcsmurf> someone here has a mozilla-beta tree handy?
  1789. # [13:37] <mcsmurf> and can check if "hg pull" works?
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  1792. # [13:38] <nemo> hm. just mc and some js stuff here. sorry. but they seem to work fine
  1793. # [13:38] <mcsmurf> m-c also works for me ;)
  1794. # [13:38] <mcsmurf> it's just m-b having some problem looks like..
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  1797. # [13:41] <bobowen> Is anyone else having problems pushing to try? /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:27144'
  1798. # [13:41] <mcsmurf> bobowen: not directly, but I'm having problems pulling from mozilla-beta
  1799. # [13:42] <mcsmurf> maybe related, not sure
  1800. # [13:42] <mcsmurf> ("An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host")
  1801. # [13:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: i guess its related to bug 994028
  1802. # [13:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mcsmurf: checking
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  1805. # [13:44] <mcsmurf> Tomcat|sheriffduty: just checked on my laptop, there hg pull seems to work fine
  1806. # [13:44] <mcsmurf> strange ;)
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  1808. # [13:45] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks, do you know how people have worked around this?
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  1810. # [13:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: so far this have cleared up itself after some time
  1811. # [13:47] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: OK, I'll just keep trying :)
  1812. # [13:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c6fe998602ae - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  1813. # [13:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a2985a21a012 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  1837. # [14:02] <mcsmurf> just fyi, workaround for my hg problem: I switched from http://hg.mozilla.org to https://hg.mozilla.org for now :)
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  1842. # [14:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: for the waiting for the lock thing
  1843. # [14:06] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah, last try push was 1.5h ago...
  1844. # [14:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: ok lets go to to #it
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  1870. # [14:24] <RyanVM> paolo: ping
  1871. # [14:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/14b25d18dbad - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 996363 - order OS X cloverleaf symbol correctly in ShortcutUtils.jsm, r=Unfocused
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  1898. # [14:47] <paolo> RyanVM: pong
  1899. # [14:47] <paolo> just saw your request
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  1901. # [14:47] <RyanVM> paolo: yes, thanks :)
  1902. # [14:47] <RyanVM> much appreciated
  1903. # [14:47] <paolo> np!
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  1906. # [14:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28765a60c8be - Alexander Surkov - Bug 975065 - implement Text accessible text range methods, r=tbsaunde
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  1913. # [14:51] <RyanVM> paolo: also, are you aware of any bugs on this? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37900847&tree=Mozilla-Central
  1914. # [14:51] <RyanVM> "Full message: TypeError: worker is null"
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  1917. # [14:52] <RyanVM> maybe I should be asking Yoric
  1918. # [14:52] <Yoric> RyanVM: bug 995162
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  1920. # [14:52] <RyanVM> yay!
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  1924. # [14:53] * Yoric is happy to oblige.
  1925. # [14:53] <Yoric> (and unhappy to have caused this error in the first place)
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  1928. # [14:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/854848b9722d - Brian Grinstead - Bug 996622 - [rule view] Use shared css file for ruleview.css;r=pbrosset
  1929. # [14:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ba0fc8bc4aa0 - Brian Grinstead - Bug 996622 - [rule view] Use new theme colors for marking changed rules;r=pbrosset
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  1932. # [14:57] <RyanVM> Yoric: I spent almost an hour and half straight filing bugs last night, so one less bug for me to file makes me happy :)
  1933. # [14:58] <Yoric> Especially since this one is checkin-needed already.
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  1948. # [15:07] <swu> How am I suppose to know the error reason for "WARNING: NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv) failed with result 0x80520012"?
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  1951. # [15:07] <swu> cannot find "0x80520012" from dxr.
  1952. # [15:08] <RyanVM> Gijs: you can always get a loaner if it helps :)
  1953. # [15:08] <RyanVM> Gijs: which one, OOC?
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  1955. # [15:08] <Gijs> RyanVM: the one you filed yesterday, about the test that landed the day before
  1956. # [15:09] <RyanVM> ah yea
  1957. # [15:09] <Gijs> RyanVM: that's been uplifted to Aurora so I feel bad
  1958. # [15:09] <RyanVM> 995 something or another
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  1960. # [15:09] <Gijs> but I just ran it with --run-until-failure on my win8 machine and got nada. Just built debug, will see if I have more luck with that than opt.
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  1963. # [15:09] <Gijs> bug 996988
  1964. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> swu, I know this one!
  1965. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> http://james-ross.co.uk/mozilla/misc/nserror
  1966. # [15:10] <Yoric> These were the good old times.
  1967. # [15:10] * Yoric now uses devtools for that.
  1968. # [15:10] <Yoric> (well, old for sure, good maybe not)
  1969. # [15:10] <swu> Ms2ger: Cool, thanks for this link.
  1970. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1979. # [15:14] <Gijs> Yoric: devtools have an nserror lookup table?
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  1982. # [15:16] <Yoric> Gijs: sure they do -- for (let k of Object.keys(Components.results)) if (Components.results[k] == my_error_code) console.log(k);
  1983. # [15:17] <Gijs> heh
  1984. # [15:17] <Yoric> It's very user-friendly :)
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  1988. # [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a12d31c2289 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 992968 - . r=efaust a=abillings
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  2017. # [15:30] <froydnj> Sylvestre: are you running the clang static analyzer regularly?
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  2020. # [15:31] <Sylvestre> I am planning to do it once I get the false positive removed
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  2022. # [15:31] <froydnj> Sylvestre++
  2023. # [15:31] <Sylvestre> Thanks for the super review. :)
  2024. # [15:32] <@smaug> BenWa|email: ping
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  2041. # [15:37] <froydnj> Sylvestre: I guess you could make a case for the analyzer considering some of those things as noreturn, even if they do return, but it still seems odd
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  2043. # [15:37] <Sylvestre> yeh, I am replying to your review but that is more a naming problem with upstream :)
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  2051. # [15:39] <KaiRo> jandem, till: do you have any idea if you might find an actually working patch for bug 976536 this week? I am somewhat worried about shipping 29 with this but we have less than a week left for beta checkins...
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  2072. # [15:55] <gaston> 29 will likely ship broken on powerpc, but fewer ppl care about that :)
  2073. # [15:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/449e835346b5 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 996988 - add more test assertions to debug intermittent orange for browser_995164_registerArea_during_customize_mode.js, rs=firebot/test-only
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  2076. # [15:57] <Ms2ger> gaston, *gasp*
  2077. # [15:58] <Gijs> RyanVM: and now we wait, I guess (comment on the bug with some details I've been trying to distill from logs, but locally I'm seeing this on neither debug nor opt, so it's a bit stabbing-in-the-dark-y)
  2078. # [15:58] <@smaug> powerpc..
  2079. # [15:58] <Gijs> RyanVM: somewhat orthogonally, super happy that m-bc is split up now! :D
  2080. # [15:59] <Gijs> turnaround is like... non-terrible now!
  2081. # [15:59] <gaston> (#961488 if anyone cares about powerpc/exotic archs :)
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  2088. # [16:00] <RyanVM> Gijs: yeah :)
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  2094. # [16:02] <RyanVM> Gijs: working on getting it to Aurora too
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  2140. # [16:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/810593c39953 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 993034: SIMD - Clean up coding style and reorganize functions by number of arguments; r=nmatsakis
  2141. # [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87e9fc86154e - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 993034: SIMD - Define shallow wrappers macro that call templated functions instead of macro functions; r=nmatsakis
  2142. # [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b1f10cb214a - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 993034: SIMD - Replace and simplify bogus pointer in Int32x4Select; r=nmatsakis
  2143. # [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c402f8b74fc - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 993034: SIMD - Factor out typed access to TypedObject memory; r=nmatsakis
  2144. # [16:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ce48eb7d960 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 993034: SIMD - Rename toType2 into toType and make it fallible; r=nmatsakis
  2145. # [16:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/330cc814b05b - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 993034: SIMD - Factor out tests for object and vector in a single function; r=nmatsakis
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  2149. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f9157f73f5fc - Szu-Yu Chen [:aknow] - Bug 990472 - Part 3: Test case. r=hsinyi
  2150. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7d26e5a537d8 - Szu-Yu Chen [:aknow] - Bug 990472 - Part 2: Add check for more than 2 calls on line. r=hsinyi
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  2154. # [16:30] <gfritzsche> mcote|afk: i heard you maintain our RB instance? can you enable me to take over some reviews there?
  2155. # [16:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03e9ce5758cb - Vaibhav Agrawal - Bug 912243 - Mochitest shouldnt chdir in __init__. r=jmaher
  2156. # [16:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1ac0cb853b9 - Martin Stransky - Bug 983843 - Use toolkit drag & drop functions for Gtk3 too. r=karlt
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  2209. # [16:59] <mcote> gfritzsche: take over some reviews meaning what exactly?
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  2212. # [17:00] <padenot> sewardj: is this known? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4819202
  2213. # [17:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1a8921153d9 - Steven Michaud - Bug 959281 - http://paperjs.org/examples/voronoi/ drawing performance has regressed badly. r=spohl
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  2217. # [17:02] <sewardj> padenot: I haven't seen that before.
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  2219. # [17:02] <sewardj> padenot: what's the mozconfig?
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  2221. # [17:03] <sewardj> padenot: and compiler?
  2222. # [17:03] <padenot> ac_add_options --enable-debug
  2223. # [17:03] <padenot> ac_add_options --disable-optimize
  2224. # [17:03] <padenot> ac_add_options --enable-tests
  2225. # [17:03] <padenot> ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors
  2226. # [17:03] <padenot> gcc-4.8
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  2228. # [17:03] <padenot> nothing fancy
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  2233. # [17:04] <sewardj> padenot: I have never seen those warnings before.
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  2235. # [17:05] <sewardj> padenot: I will try to repro.
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  2238. # [17:05] <gwagner> bjacob__: ping
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  2241. # [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58b82c1143fb - Mike Connor - bug 997179 - Bing is not present in default search engines, r=mfinkle
  2242. # [17:07] <bjacob__> gwagner: pong
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  2247. # [17:08] <gwagner> bjacob__: hey! did you have time to look at the assertions on pine after fixing bug 986836?
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  2250. # [17:08] <gwagner> bjacob__: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Pine&showall=1
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  2265. # [17:14] <@smaug> BenWa: actually, nm. This b2g + profiler seems to work really well
  2266. # [17:14] <@smaug> (not that I quite understand the UI, but that is different issue)
  2267. # [17:14] <gfritzsche> mcote: i took over bugs and they have RB reviews open with issues filed etc. - ideally i want to just continue those
  2268. # [17:14] <padenot> sewardj: it removed the warning as error and it seems to build, but that was kind of expected
  2269. # [17:15] <BenWa> smaug: It does work well. On some non qalcomm hardware there’s some unresolved issues but it’s fine on device like the hamachi
  2270. # [17:15] <BenWa> smaug: send a profile my way if you need a hand to read it
  2271. # [17:16] <@smaug> BenWa: I can read it, but it is just hard to see the big picture
  2272. # [17:16] <BenWa> let me know if you need a hand :)
  2273. # [17:16] <@smaug> I'm too used to other kind of UI
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  2275. # [17:16] <BenWa> smaug: which kind?
  2276. # [17:16] <@smaug> Zoom
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  2278. # [17:17] <@smaug> http://www.rotateright.com/wp-content/uploads/screenshots/call-tree-screenshot.png
  2279. # [17:17] <@smaug> and I don't quite understand cleopatra's selection handling
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  2287. # [17:19] <BenWa> smaug: Yea, the zoom UI is interesting
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  2289. # [17:20] <@smaug> BenWa: if I have a range [a, b], the 'tree' shows the whole range and 'selection' only one tick ?
  2290. # [17:20] <@smaug> 'selection' being the thing on the right side
  2291. # [17:20] <BenWa> smaug: you have to select the range [a, b]
  2292. # [17:20] <BenWa> click on it
  2293. # [17:20] <@smaug> right
  2294. # [17:20] <@smaug> figured that
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  2296. # [17:20] <BenWa> then yea the tree view will reflect it
  2297. # [17:21] <BenWa> Then you treeview selection will be reflected in the timeline as green
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  2301. # [17:21] <@smaug> BenWa: and the selection is whatever smaller "tick" is selected?
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  2303. # [17:22] <BenWa> the selection is what is selected in the treeview
  2304. # [17:22] <BenWa> anything that as a stack matching [root, …, …, selected frame, *]
  2305. # [17:22] <@smaug> ahaa
  2306. # [17:23] <BenWa> once you select a leaf then it’s an exact match
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  2308. # [17:23] <BenWa> smaug:
  2309. # [17:23] <BenWa> You can also click on the timeline to select that sample
  2310. # [17:23] <@smaug> yes, I was clicking only in the timeline
  2311. # [17:23] <@smaug> or didn't realize clicking in the tree changed the selection
  2312. # [17:23] <@smaug> but ok, thanks
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  2314. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32df543ab3c6 - Robert Longson - Bug 974710 - Stop incorrectly reporting errors with values attribute on the animateMotion element. r=dholbert
  2315. # [17:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cfba1345851 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 997081 - Optimize StoreElementHole OOL VM call. r=bhackett
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  2331. # [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/dadc1c152003 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  2334. # [17:34] <mcote> gfritzsche: ah I see. and you aren't able to flag yourself as a reviewer on that, is that the problem?
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  2336. # [17:35] <Pike> my mac nightly shows a disturbing jitter when scrolling up on https://docs.python.org/2/library/logging.html#handler-objects. Only on Nightly, release is find. I don't recall seeing that recently on python docs either
  2337. # [17:35] <Pike> known bug?
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  2343. # [17:36] <RyanVM> bjacob__: does bug 986836 need landing on any other branches?
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  2345. # [17:37] <gfritzsche> mcote: i want to be able to close issues on them, mark them as submitted etc. - it seems as i can't change anything there, presumable because i'm not the submitter
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  2347. # [17:38] <mcote> gfritzsche: ahh okay sorry, I thought you meant you wanted to review them--you want to own those issues, you mean
  2348. # [17:38] <mcote> gfritzsche: okay I'm not an RB expert, but I'll see what I can do. :) can you email me the review numbers?
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  2351. # [17:39] <gfritzsche> mcote: yeah, i want to own them. will mail you, thanks!
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  2357. # [17:41] <bjacob__> RyanVM: oh yes, whichever branch is needed to fix b2g 1.4
  2358. # [17:41] <bjacob__> RyanVM: note it's 1.4+
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  2361. # [17:42] <bjacob> RyanVM: reconnected sorry
  2362. # [17:42] <RyanVM> bjacob__: ok, just wanted to make sure no others
  2363. # [17:42] <RyanVM> thanks
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  2366. # [17:43] <gfritzsche> mcote: and sent
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  2368. # [17:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1ebef0fc77de - Clemens Wilding - Bug 920855 - Replace java.net.URL with java.net.URI wherever possible. r=rnewman
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  2401. # [18:00] <botond> kats: does tbpl look at what files changed in a push (to inbound) to decide which tests to trigger? i notice not all pushes run tests for the same platforms
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  2405. # [18:02] <kats> edmorley|sheriffduty: ^ ?
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  2407. # [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d4118f3d2d28 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  2414. # [18:05] <@dbaron> drs, pong, but in a meeting
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  2422. # [18:08] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
  2423. # [18:08] <drs> dbaron: it can wait, it's ok
  2424. # [18:09] <Mossop> So how do I build a 32-bit linux version of Firefox. I'm trying on a 32-bit Ubuntu install but it keeps dying in the link of libxul because it runs out of memory
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  2428. # [18:09] <jesup> bsmedberg: jwwang is saying that timers with a 0 timeout sometimes aren't firing; this seems very unlikely to me - bug 994877. I assume I'm on good ground asserting he's either a) wrong, or b) it's a serious bug that must be fixed. (Likely a)
  2429. # [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b192379d4d65 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 987816 - verifying with certificateUsageVerifyCA always return failure. r=dkeeler a=lsblakk
  2430. # [18:10] <jesup> Mossop: how much ram? How much swap?
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  2432. # [18:11] <Mossop> jesup: 8G ram, 4G swap
  2433. # [18:11] <padenot> Mossop: pae kernel?
  2434. # [18:11] <Mossop> When I did the same in a 64-bit install it linked fine in half that
  2435. # [18:11] <Mossop> padenot: What is that?
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  2437. # [18:12] <jesup> IIRC seeing a comment in a new GCC release about linking FF going from 13GB to <4GB, so you may be on the edge
  2438. # [18:12] <padenot> Mossop: something to allow process to have more memory to address, you need that
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  2440. # [18:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> botond: kats: TBPL doesn't schdule jobs, buildbot does & yeah it uses some currently simplistic regex https://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/tip/misc.py#l132
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  2442. # [18:12] <jesup> padenot++
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  2444. # [18:12] <froydnj> jesup: that's with LTO and pretty sure that's on 64-bit anyway
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  2446. # [18:13] <padenot> Mossop: apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae, and reboot
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  2448. # [18:13] <padenot> thrown in a sudo as well
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  2452. # [18:14] <Mossop> padenot: Already installed apparently
  2453. # [18:15] <Mossop> Maybe I'll see if I can resize to get more swap space, goodness knows why the Ubuntu installer chose to only give me 4GB
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  2455. # [18:15] <padenot> uname -a to check if you're actually using it
  2456. # [18:15] <@ehsan> gerv: vlad: can you please Cc me on bug 989903?
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  2459. # [18:16] <dholbert> padenot / Mossop, IIRC you have to (or at least have the option to) explicitly pick the pae kernel in grub, when you boot up
  2460. # [18:16] <bent> anyone else noticed intermittent problems accessing https sites recently in nightly?
  2461. # [18:17] <Mossop> I don't even see grub when I boot up :s
  2462. # [18:17] <dholbert> padenot / Mossop, (though the last time I used a 32-bit system was a while ago, so take that with a grain of salt)
  2463. # [18:17] <bent> i've had to restart ff several times recently to get gmail to work
  2464. # [18:17] <dholbert> Mossop, it might give you a 5-second countdown or something during which you can hit something
  2465. # [18:18] <dholbert> which you can maybe configure in /etc/default/grub or somesuch, but maybe not worth it
  2466. # [18:18] <@ehsan> bent: what kind of problem?
  2467. # [18:18] * jchen|away is now known as jchen
  2468. # [18:18] * @ehsan did see something odd on bugzilla this morning
  2469. # [18:18] <dholbert> Mossop, anyway, did padenot's uname -a suggestion tell you whether you're actually running with pae or not?
  2470. # [18:18] <bent> ehsan, it just stops loading
  2471. # [18:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e268359b9d56 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  2472. # [18:18] <@ehsan> yeah I saw that I think
  2473. # [18:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/76a5897deeb9 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  2474. # [18:18] <@ehsan> thought it was a network fluke
  2475. # [18:18] <bent> for the last few days
  2476. # [18:18] <Mossop> dholbert: It doesn't mention pae in there
  2477. # [18:19] <bent> i thought it was dveditz' addon
  2478. # [18:19] <@ehsan> bent: I just saw it once this morning
  2479. # [18:19] <bent> :)
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  2481. # [18:19] <@ehsan> oh
  2482. # [18:19] <@ehsan> could be
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  2484. # [18:19] <bent> it isn't
  2485. # [18:19] <@ehsan> I have it installed too :)
  2486. # [18:19] <@ehsan> oh
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  2491. # [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/311a1e912f6b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 996673 - Stop using |#pragma once| in Moz2D headers. r=Bas
  2492. # [18:19] <vlad> ehsan: sure
  2493. # [18:19] <dholbert> Mossop, hmm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE says "The generic default kernel already has PAE enabled" for Ubuntu 12.10 & up
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  2495. # [18:20] <vlad> I need to respond to the dev.platform thread
  2496. # [18:20] <Mossop> I'm on 12.04
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  2498. # [18:20] <@ehsan> vlad: my post contains an actual solution fwiw ;)(
  2499. # [18:20] <@ehsan> and thanks!
  2500. # [18:20] <dholbert> Mossop, according to the next section there, it sounds like pae should become the default. dunno
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  2502. # [18:21] <vlad> ehsan: yeah, I saw; but I don't want to do an addon
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  2504. # [18:21] <vlad> addons require XPCOM and a bunch of other crap
  2505. # [18:21] <vlad> ehsan: however, the latest SDK has a C API now
  2506. # [18:21] <@ehsan> vlad: my proposal was not an addon
  2507. # [18:21] <vlad> so we might have a decent interim solution
  2508. # [18:21] <Mossop> hrm
  2509. # [18:21] <@ehsan> A C API would fix a lot of things!
  2510. # [18:21] <till> ehsan, bent: the addon just started showing all ssl connections to mozilla properties as vulnerable for me. Without a browser restart in a session that didn't exhibit this before
  2511. # [18:22] <bent> till, yeah, i disabled
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  2513. # [18:22] * till does the same :(
  2514. # [18:22] <bent> till, did the same for facebook, gmail
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  2516. # [18:22] <vlad> ehsan: oh, extensions/ isn't for prebuilt addons?
  2517. # [18:22] <@ehsan> vlad: no :)
  2518. # [18:22] <till> bent: it seems like it randomly decides not to trust certain hosts anymore, and then stick to that decision
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  2521. # [18:23] <dholbert> Mossop, it might be possible that your VM processor doesn't support it. did you try the grep command at the top of that page?
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  2525. # [18:23] <Mossop> dholbert: I did, and it claims support. Also top shows more than 4GB of memory available so I think pae might be working. I'm going to increase the swap space and see if that helps
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  2527. # [18:24] <dholbert> Mossop, oh good
  2528. # [18:24] <dholbert> cool
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  2535. # [18:27] <@bsmedberg> jesup: sorry, don't have much time; I certainly would expect those timers to fire "soon"
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  2568. # [18:45] <bbouvier> is http://arewemeetingyet.com/ owned by a mozillian? the SSL version seem to redirect to a garbage page
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  2570. # [18:46] <dholbert> bbouvier, whois says it's owned by https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/djc/
  2571. # [18:46] <@gavin> bbouvier: that was created by djc
  2572. # [18:47] <bbouvier> thanks!
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  2584. # [18:50] <mcote> gfritzsche: done! you are now marked as the submitter for those reviews
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  2586. # [18:51] <gfritzsche> mcote: cool, thank you :)
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  2617. # [19:02] <decoder> is it expected that --disable-debug builds of xpcshell dont output any errors?
  2618. # [19:03] <decoder> e.g. for example, I'm getting a ReferenceError with a debug build (because im using a variable that doesnt exist)
  2619. # [19:03] <decoder> but the opt-build just silently terminates, no errors
  2620. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> That sounds like the error we always dump to stderr in debug builds
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  2623. # [19:04] <decoder> is there a way to make release builds behave the same way?
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  2625. # [19:05] <decoder> it's a little odd to have an xpcshell open and it doesnt output any errors but silently swallows everything you give it
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  2627. # [19:05] <Ms2ger> I think bholley would know where that code lives
  2628. # [19:05] <decoder> im building a dbg+opt shell right now but i suspect itll be a lot slower
  2629. # [19:06] <bholley> decoder: to make dump() work in opt builds?
  2630. # [19:06] <bholley> oh, error reporting
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  2632. # [19:06] <bholley> decoder: but yeah, it's behind the same pref
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  2634. # [19:07] <bholley> decoder: see the call to nsContentUtils::DOMWindowDumpEnabled() in xpc::SystemErrorReporter
  2635. # [19:07] <bholley> decoder: just flip that pref
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  2682. # [19:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3a457bc88a2 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 996477 - Fix ImportError when running mach marionette-webapi, r=glandium
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  2696. # [19:33] <decoder> bholley: okay thx
  2697. # [19:33] <bholley> decoder: np
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  2708. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e6f034cf94c2 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  2721. # [19:47] <@khuey> I feel like I ask this question every couple months
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  2723. # [19:47] <@khuey> but what stops us from replacing nsAutoPtr with std::unique_ptr?
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  2725. # [19:47] <froydnj> we have compiler support everywhere for that?
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  2727. # [19:47] <froydnj> Waldo was doing mozilla::UniquePtr at one point
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  2730. # [19:48] <@khuey> VS 2010 has it
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  2733. # [19:48] <@khuey> I would expect that to be the long pole, but who knows
  2734. # [19:48] <froydnj> $1 says gcc 4.4's move references support isn't good enough or something
  2735. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9f9528ccd44b - Fabrice Desré - Bug 996384 - WebappsApplication#clearBrowserData should not clear app's alarms from mozAlarms r=gene,nsm
  2736. # [19:48] <@khuey> heh
  2737. # [19:48] <@khuey> that I believe
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  2741. # [19:49] <bent> what happened to us getting vs2013.2 going?
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  2745. # [19:49] <froydnj> dmajor was working on it, maybe he ran into other problems
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  2747. # [19:50] <@khuey> bent: does 2013 build binaries that run on XP?
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  2749. # [19:50] <bent> yeah, i'm pretty sure they kept that
  2750. # [19:51] <bent> though, we probably should stop caring soon
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  2753. # [19:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5cf9041418fa - Roberto A. Vitillo - Bug 989419 - Remove main-thread IO from background update of {profile}\blocklist.xml. r=irving
  2754. # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/26a034a63189 - Jan Keromnes - Bug 986060 - Bubble the reflow interruptible flag in the developer-hud-update event. r=ochameau
  2755. # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/566c01fe0d98 - Amod Narvekar - Bug 330879 - Check whether the node parameter is a valid Places node. r=mak
  2756. # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/68ba8f6f4f03 - Sam Penrose - Bug 983445 - Verification causes logout on device. r=jedp
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  2758. # [19:52] <@bsmedberg> bent: you say that, but that's 35-45% of our users as of last week
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  2760. # [19:52] <bent> bsmedberg, sure, but we don't need to keep making it better do we?
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  2762. # [19:53] <bent> i mean, security updates on a botnet machine...
  2763. # [19:53] <@bsmedberg> bent: we need to not make their computer exploitable via Firefox, I believe
  2764. # [19:53] <@khuey> we need to make it continue to run ...
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  2770. # [19:54] <bent> i'm just sorta assuming that the first unpatched winxp vulnerability will own them all
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  2772. # [19:54] <dholbert> bent, unlikely, if they're behind a router
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  2775. # [19:55] <dholbert> bent, it only becomes a botnet machine if they access web/email with unpatched software
  2776. # [19:55] <bent> dholbert, guess i'm thinking email attachments, word docs, etc
  2777. # [19:55] <dholbert> (like say, Firefox, if we stop supporting them)
  2778. # [19:56] <bent> but in any case... vs2013 should support xp
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  2780. # [19:56] <dholbert> cool. :)
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  2783. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/858255f59171 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 996768 - Remove redundant copies of HasOpaqueAncestorLayer. r=Bas
  2784. # [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e128ceec086c - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 992670 - Make all child insertions/removals non-temporary in nsNavHistoryContainerResultNode. r=mak
  2785. # [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e31deb02ba8 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 992670 - Fix always true assertion condition in nsNavHistoryResult.cpp. r=mak
  2786. # [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d8ac5b08dd5 - Kearwood (Kip) Gilbert - Bug 984226 - Add parameter to OverflowChangedTracker::AddFrame to distingush between frames that need nsIFrame::UpdateOverflow called and frames that only have
  2787. # [19:58] <firebot> a transform that has changed. r=dbaron
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  2802. # [20:00] <@smaug> BenWa|email: have you tested different values for -i ?
  2803. # [20:00] <@smaug> and what is the default?
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  2820. # [20:05] <@khuey> froydnj: I guess we'd have to convert a bunch of nsAutoPtr using code to use move refs instead of nsAutoPtr's magic copy ctor and whatnot
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  2827. # [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e163918ea05 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 992874 - Don't try to texture from bad D3D10 texture. - r=bas
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  2841. # [20:09] <@dbaron> drs, pong
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  2843. # [20:10] <drs> dbaron: hey, is there a way to profile css selectors?
  2844. # [20:10] <@dbaron> drs, no
  2845. # [20:10] <drs> dbaron: is there any way to measure it even more generally?
  2846. # [20:10] <greatwarrior> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hello sir.
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  2848. # [20:10] <@dbaron> drs, yes
  2849. # [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> greatwarrior: hi
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  2851. # [20:10] <froydnj> khuey: the easy things are never as simple as they seem to be
  2852. # [20:11] <drs> dbaron: how would I go about that?
  2853. # [20:11] * froydnj tries to figure out if he can ni? someone while filing a new bug
  2854. # [20:11] <@dbaron> drs, I think I talked about it a bit in the http://dbaron.org/talks/ at SXSW in March 2012
  2855. # [20:11] <greatwarrior> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thank you for checkin the patch of bug 330879
  2856. # [20:11] <@dbaron> drs, though it depends what it is you want to measure
  2857. # [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> greatwarrior: yw :)
  2858. # [20:11] <@dbaron> drs, so maybe "yes" is too flippant an answer
  2859. # [20:12] <greatwarrior> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I met you at Mozilla Summit 2013. first on day 0.
  2860. # [20:12] <Tomcat> froydnj: seems it does not have that feature
  2861. # [20:12] <drs> dbaron: basically, I have some css in a gaia app that I have very good reason to believe is slow, but I want to measure it to make sure I'm actually improving it, and possibly to isolate the worst parts so I can focus on them
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  2864. # [20:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> greatwarrior: awesome! Glad to see you around still :)
  2865. # [20:12] <froydnj> Tomcat: seems so =/
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  2867. # [20:13] <greatwarrior> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :)
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  2873. # [20:14] <henrique> Hello. I am phd student and for my research I need some information about how developers handles similar/related bugs. Is it ok for me to ask a few questions about that?
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  2875. # [20:15] <@dbaron> drs, the gecko profile should help for figuring out what's actually slow, I think
  2876. # [20:15] <@dbaron> drs, in some cases using explicit flushes can be a useful technique for seeing how fast certain things are, but it can also be misleading if what you're flushing isn't representative of the real workload
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  2885. # [20:17] <drs> dbaron: I'm using the profiler to profile how long overall css resolving and reflowing is taking, but it doesn't seem to be useful for picking out individual slow things
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  2887. # [20:17] <drs> dbaron: and how do I force a flush?
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  2889. # [20:18] <@dbaron> drs, depends what you want to flush; see the talk I gave at SXSW
  2890. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/fd115bae680f - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  2891. # [20:18] <@dbaron> drs, (it's not a simple question)
  2892. # [20:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ed8ebf8ff00f - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  2894. # [20:18] <drs> dbaron: ok, I'll listen to it
  2895. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/59f4f732f6d7 - Brandon Benvie - Bug 968896 - Add tern support to source editor to provide autocompletion and type inference. r=vp, r=anton, r=fitzgen
  2896. # [20:19] <drs> dbaron: thank you
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  2901. # [20:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b394e883b806 - David Keeler - bug 972753 - OCSP testing: delegated responses and including multiple certificates r=cviecco
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  2905. # [20:24] <henrique> I just have 2 small questions that will take less than 1min to answer. This could really help my research. Is it ok for me to ask here, or should I go to other channel or media?
  2906. # [20:25] <Mossop> If the questions are about Firefox or Gecko development then ask away
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  2908. # [20:25] <henrique> Thank you, they are.
  2909. # [20:25] <henrique> My research is on recommendation systems for minimizing the wasting of time when handling similar bugs from issue tracking systems, as Bugzilla.
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  2911. # [20:25] <henrique> When working on fixing bugs, do you also try to find similar/related bugs from the one you are currently working on?
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  2915. # [20:26] <henrique> Do you think it would be useful to recommend a similar/related bug to a developer who just fixed a given bug?
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  2921. # [20:29] <dholbert> henrique, to (2), sure
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  2925. # [20:30] <dholbert> henrique, to (1), when you say "find...bugs", are you talking about finding bugs that are already filed in bugzilla, or about poking around at Firefox/Gecko/whatever to try to reveal new bugs?
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  2928. # [20:30] <henrique> I am asking about bugs already fied in bugzilla
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  2930. # [20:30] <henrique> filed*
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  2934. # [20:32] <dholbert> henrique, so, a lot of people that have been working on Mozilla code for a while will subscribe to bugmail for the areas of code that they work in
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  2938. # [20:32] <dholbert> henrique, so they're likely to be already aware of the existence/nonexistence of similar bugs
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  2941. # [20:33] <henrique> So it is a common practice to work on similar bugs?
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  2945. # [20:34] <dholbert> henrique, well, yes, but that's not saying much
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  2947. # [20:34] <dholbert> henrique, RE your first question about bug discovery though
  2948. # [20:34] <dholbert> I think the dependency usually goes the other way
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  2953. # [20:35] <dholbert> henrique, by which I mean: often, a developer will find out about & fix a given bug *because he/she's watching for bugmail about that area of code*
  2954. # [20:36] <henrique> ok, thank you very much
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  2956. # [20:36] <dholbert> henrique, however, for new contributors, I expect it goes more along the lines of how you described
  2957. # [20:37] <dholbert> (i.e. after fixing a first/second bug [and having no idea what bugs are out there], it'd make sense to look for somewhat-related bugs of a similar difficulty)
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  2960. # [20:37] <henrique> Ok, thanks. You helped me a lot.
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  2962. # [20:38] <dholbert> henrique, great, glad I could help!
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  2976. # [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b7eef53c08a - Terrence Cole - Bug 959787 - Handlify JS_DefineProperty; r=Waldo, r=bz
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  2986. # [20:49] <@smaug> BenWa|email: why I can't use -m native when doing system profiling (not specifying app)
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  2993. # [20:51] <msucan> trychooser is not working. is this known? https://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/
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  2995. # [20:52] <@smaug> msucan: http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ works
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  2997. # [20:52] <@smaug> I guess some certificates are being updated
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  3001. # [20:54] <msucan> smaug: thanks
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  3011. # [20:58] <@bsmedberg> philor: do you know if I fprintf(stderr) whether it will show up in the android crashtest logs? or what else I'd do or who to ask?
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  3015. # [20:59] <philor> bsmedberg: I'd ask gbrown, who's hiding from you here, but is in #ateam
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  3017. # [20:59] <froydnj> bsmedberg: I think all the other places we do that, we use __android_log_print
  3018. # [20:59] <philor> there's some something something about what does and doesn't work, but I don't remember what it is
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  3021. # [21:00] <froydnj> bsmedberg: printf_stderr will dtrt on all platforms
  3022. # [21:01] <@bsmedberg> great thanks
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  3031. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/83ef37a324fe - Michael Wu - Bug 996828 - Remove dirty region tracking in gonk widget backend, r=roc
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  3046. # [21:12] <drs> dbaron: ping
  3047. # [21:12] <@dbaron> drs, pong
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  3049. # [21:12] <bkelly> is this a common error when pushing to try: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:17058'
  3050. # [21:13] <drs> dbaron: I listened to your talk, it was really good, thanks for linking me. you said at the end though that the optimizations and performance characteristics of css selectors were changing around that time, and I looked around and couldn't find any new information on this. do you have an updated list of recommendations or anything like that?
  3051. # [21:13] <kats> bkelly: happens occasionally, ask in #it and somebody can fix it for you
  3052. # [21:14] <@dbaron> drs, hmmm, I think the thing that changes more commonly is the stuff in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsChangeHint.h
  3053. # [21:14] <bkelly> kats: thanks!
  3054. # [21:14] <@dbaron> drs, I think the big change for selectors around or since then was the bloom filter stuff bz did
  3055. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7acce569bd84 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 996831. Add a ToJSValue overload for nsresult, to allow rejecting promises from C++ more easily. r=bholley
  3056. # [21:14] * @bz can steal ideas with the best of them
  3057. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30c536b1ee34 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 996911. Make nsIDOMXUL*Element not inherit from nsIDOMXULElement, so we can make the latter noscript. r=smaug
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  3059. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6acacaa75fad - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 995295 part 2. Make console.trace() faster when the console is closed by avoiding reification of the stack until someone actually asks for it. r=baku
  3060. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1845b09c7578 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 996474. Add a ToJSValue overload that takes a Handle<Value>. r=bholley
  3061. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df5a68af3d30 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 995295 part 1. Create console events in the junk scope, not the untrusted content scope. r=baku
  3062. # [21:15] <drs> dbaron: sorry, I don't follow. if I understand correctly, you're saying not much has changed? is the bloom filter just for svg?
  3063. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/711ddfbb8bbf - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 68ba8f6f4f03 (bug 983445) for suspicion of causing xpcshell timeouts in test_browserid_identity.js.
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  3065. # [21:16] <drs> dbaron: okay, I googled it and found an article about it, I'll read that
  3066. # [21:17] <@dbaron> drs, no, not just for svg
  3067. # [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c60b059c47ca - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets e128ceec086c and 7e31deb02ba8 (bug 992670) for mochitest-bc and xpcshell crashes.
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  3071. # [21:19] <Ms2ger> dbaron, about the node flags patch, you'll let me know if I need to do something?
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  3076. # [21:20] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, yep
  3077. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> Okay, thanks
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  3091. # [21:29] <sheppy> I just noticed that someone marked the Mozmill page with the Deprecated tag. Is Mozmill a deader?
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  3096. # [21:30] <sheppy> I suspect that the actual situation is that parts of it are, and someone got a little heavy-handed with tagging. :)
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  3098. # [21:31] <sheppy> Yep, OK, I see it now that I do some digging.
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  3105. # [21:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: inbound bustage
  3106. # [21:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37946421&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  3108. # [21:36] <gaston> js/src/jsinfer.cpp:4337:21: error: 'GetIonScript' is not a member of 'js::jit'
  3109. # [21:36] <gaston> give me a fscking break....
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  3114. # [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/09847ac2ab60 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 59f4f732f6d7 (bug 968896) for mochitest-dt failures.
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  3118. # [21:39] <jesup> bsmedberg: Is it safe to call NS_NewNamedThread("foo", getter_AddRefs(mThread), this) where the object is stored in a raw ptr (not addrefed, just newed and then told to dispatch itself to a new thread)? Got a crash that implies that it's not quite 100% safe - PutEvent()-> nsThread::GetObserver->BaseAutoLock()-> .... a5a5a5 crash
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  3120. # [21:40] <@bsmedberg> jesup: what is "the object"?
  3121. # [21:40] <jesup> Didn't see anything, but it's a bit of a maze of twisty passages. 100 runs of local asan didn't hit anything in the test
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  3124. # [21:41] <jesup> bsmedberg: AudioInitTask (see content/media/AudioStream.h, at the end)
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  3129. # [21:41] <jesup> class AudioInitTask : public nsRunnable
  3130. # [21:41] <@bsmedberg> jesup: sorry, you mean you're passing that as the "initialEvent" to NS_NewNamedThread ?
  3131. # [21:42] <jesup> yes
  3132. # [21:42] <jesup> Same trick the CryptoTask stuff is doing
  3133. # [21:42] <@bsmedberg> it's not a good practice because if the method fails you'd leak it
  3134. # [21:42] <@bsmedberg> but it shouldn't cause crashes
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  3136. # [21:42] <jesup> yeah, I realized that and will fix it - though failure should be safe here
  3137. # [21:43] <jesup> bsmedberg: stack is in bug 997286
  3138. # [21:44] <jesup> When the task is done, it re-dispatches itself to MainThread to clean up the thread since we can't kill ourselves (sigh)
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  3140. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> guess bz isn't around
  3141. # [21:45] <jesup> And yes, a threadpool/etc thing would be nicer, or a standing thread we clean up (though I'm trying to avoid leaving threads hanging until shutdown all over the place "just in case"
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  3143. # [21:46] <jesup> Oh foo, it's the wonderful B2G emulator timing randomizer....
  3144. # [21:46] <@bsmedberg> jesup: it doesn't look like the task is the problem there. It looks like the nsThread is gone
  3145. # [21:46] <jesup> yeah. How does that happen??
  3146. # [21:46] <@bsmedberg> are you holding a strong ref to that thread?
  3147. # [21:47] <jesup> nsCOMPtr<nsIThread> mThread; in the object
  3148. # [21:47] <jesup> and see the getter_AddRefs
  3149. # [21:47] <jesup> Could there be a hole in the NS_NewNamedThread(...., event) logic?
  3150. # [21:48] <@bz> er, looking
  3151. # [21:48] <@bsmedberg> jesup: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/AudioStream.cpp#416 there?
  3152. # [21:48] <@bz> ugh
  3153. # [21:48] <jesup> yes
  3154. # [21:48] <@bz> did jsapi change under me?
  3155. # [21:48] * @bz compiled before his final pull
  3156. # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: sorry, backed out
  3157. # [21:49] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :*
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  3159. # [21:49] <jesup> I'm going to change that raw ptr to a RefPtr, but that won't affect this failure I think (as you mentioned, looks like the thread)
  3160. # [21:49] <@bz> This kinda sucks.
  3161. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a13590ce482 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets df5a68af3d30 and 6acacaa75fad (bug 995295) for bustage.
  3162. # [21:49] <@bz> anyway
  3163. # [21:49] * @bz will fix it up locally and reland
  3164. # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hopefully the other patches didn't depend on that one...
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  3166. # [21:49] <@bz> They don't
  3167. # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> good
  3168. # [21:49] <@bz> Thanks for just backing out that one
  3169. # [21:49] <@bsmedberg> jesup: well I'm not sure... threadsafe refcounting is hard, but line 415 should be a nsRefPtr
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  3179. # [21:51] <jesup> yes. But if events passed to NewThread have to have a non-zero refcount, we have other bugs.... (and should add an assertion)
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  3182. # [21:51] <@bsmedberg> jesup: if you're racing, this could be releasing mThread: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/AudioStream.cpp#506 before you're returning from dispatching the event
  3183. # [21:51] <@bsmedberg> it's not the event that's dying
  3184. # [21:51] <@bsmedberg> it's just the thread
  3185. # [21:51] <@bz> oh
  3186. # [21:51] <@bz> so yeah
  3187. # [21:51] <@bz> the push right before mine changed the API I was using
  3188. # [21:51] * @bz sighs
  3189. # [21:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
  3190. # [21:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ouch
  3191. # [21:53] <@bz> After sitting on it
  3192. # [21:53] <@bz> for weeks
  3193. # [21:53] <@bz> anyway
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  3195. # [21:55] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I'm about 95% sure that's what's happening anyway. The nsRefPtr won't help in this case
  3196. # [21:55] <jesup> bsmedberg: yeah, but that's in the event, after it's been dispatched, run on the thread, then been dispatched to MainThread, and nulls the thread ptr after calling Shutdown on it. Tough to see how that happens before the calling thread returns from PutEvent. Hmmmm. Yeah, maybe that's possible... maybe. But then a RefPtr on the init object wouldn't actually help.
  3197. # [21:55] <@bsmedberg> jesup: what will help and is necessary is to add a local nsCOMPtr here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/AudioStream.h#436
  3198. # [21:55] <jesup> right
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  3201. # [21:56] <@bsmedberg> that's quite the footgun
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  3205. # [21:56] <@bz> RyanVM: well, I can reland now... ;)
  3206. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> jesup: or generically, it would be better to add the comptr here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsThreadUtils.h#73
  3207. # [21:57] <jesup> I wouldn't be playing this game if there was an easy way within a thread to say "all done, let me die". Feh.
  3208. # [21:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: lol
  3209. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> the problem is really that it's using *result without having a stack-local ref there
  3210. # [21:57] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: in that my local build compiles
  3211. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> jesup: that seems fixable too...
  3212. # [21:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: k, just waiting for the last couple builds to start on the backout before I reopen
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  3214. # [21:58] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: makes sense.
  3215. # [21:58] * RyanVM|sheriffduty won't get into ranting about why these ec2 builders take so damn long to spin up
  3216. # [21:58] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sorry for the trouble. :(
  3217. # [21:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: I think that's a pretty hard one to avoid :)
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  3221. # [21:59] <jesup> bsmedberg: we have lots of code that bends over backwards to Shutdown() threads from MainThread due to this restriction. (isn't there a reason for it? In any case, even if it involves a Dispatch to MainThread to clean up, having it be standardized would be good.
  3222. # [21:59] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well, I could recompile after pull -u
  3223. # [21:59] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: of course then someone would push something else, etc
  3224. # [21:59] <jesup> bsmedberg: This is part of why we have leaking threads at shutdowntime (like the cryptoTasks, which don't even try to clean up)
  3225. # [21:59] * RyanVM|sheriffduty cedes the floor to bz
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  3228. # [22:00] <jesup> I was good and tried, and shot myself in the foot :-/
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  3230. # [22:00] <@bsmedberg> jesup: the reason is a design decision darin made in 2003. As long as the thread manager itself can join those threads by the time xpcom-shutdown hits and the refcounting is safe, there's no reason we shouldn't have an asyncshutdown method that can be called from any thread.
  3231. # [22:01] <@bsmedberg> the thread itself, even
  3232. # [22:01] <@bsmedberg> refcounting will be tricky but not impossible
  3233. # [22:01] <jesup> bsmedberg++
  3234. # [22:02] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Also, it could be worse
  3235. # [22:02] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I could have beeen writing in JS
  3236. # [22:02] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: conveniently, waiting for Linux builds gives Mac b2g desktop time to burn
  3237. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in:
  3238. # [22:02] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: And then we'd only find out if the tests failed
  3239. # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c674dc13ef85 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 995295 part 2. Make console.trace() faster when the console is closed by avoiding reification of the stack until someone actually asks for it. r=baku
  3240. # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b3a14bbfd81 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 995295 part 1. Create console events in the junk scope, not the untrusted content scope. r=baku
  3241. # [22:02] <jesup> bsmedberg: So, short-term, I want to RefPtr<> the AudioInitTask, and we need to add a COMPtr either in NewNamedThread, or in my AudioInitTask (seems NewNamedThread is better...), right?
  3242. # [22:02] <@bsmedberg> jesup: for now, add a comptr in NS_NewNamedThread
  3243. # [22:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: FML
  3244. # [22:03] <jesup> bsmedberg: cool, thanks
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  3247. # [22:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: :)
  3248. # [22:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37948103&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3249. # [22:03] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: See, some of us *do* jump on new intermittent reports with one hit! ;-)
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  3252. # [22:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: \m/
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  3255. # [22:04] <cpeterson> !seen akligman
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  3257. # [22:04] <firebot> I've never seen an 'akligman', sorry.
  3258. # [22:04] <cpeterson> !seen ack
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  3260. # [22:04] <firebot> ack was last seen 3 hours, 29 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying 'mfinkle-m: danke' in #mobile.
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  3262. # [22:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: I really need to kill the inputmethod tests on aurora already
  3263. # [22:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> since it's pretty obvious they're not getting fixed any time soon
  3264. # [22:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: I'm so not filing this - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37948089&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3265. # [22:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tell me it's a dupe, pretty please
  3266. # [22:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> media's got me crying uncle right now
  3267. # [22:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: you looking at tha tbustage?
  3268. # [22:06] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: dup of the one we're discussing!
  3269. # [22:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: excellent
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  3272. # [22:06] <jesup> bug 997286
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  3276. # [22:07] * philor looks
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  3279. # [22:08] * philor sees *** UTM:SVC TimerManager:notify - notified timerID: user-agent-updates-timer
  3280. # [22:08] * philor blames
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  3284. # [22:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: why must you toy with me so? :(
  3285. # [22:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> what did I ever do to you?
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  3289. # [22:11] <philor> that's an easy one: you stood up
  3290. # [22:11] <botond> Waldo: ping
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  3292. # [22:12] <Waldo> botond: pong
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  3296. # [22:13] <botond> Waldo: is the mfbt::Maybe class appropriate for use as a general optional/maybe type?
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  3298. # [22:13] <botond> Waldo: er, mozilla::Maybe, in mfbt/Maybe.h
  3299. # [22:14] <Waldo> um
  3300. # [22:14] <@bz> ryanvm|sheriffduty: er.... this totally compiles locally
  3301. # [22:14] <botond> Waldo: (i'm asking you because you showed up in the blame, feel free to point me to someone who might know better)
  3302. # [22:14] <@bz> ryanvm|sheriffduty: let me see what the hell that old gcc is smoking....
  3303. # [22:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: yeah, gcc fail
  3304. # [22:15] <@bz> nvalid use of incomplete type 'class mozilla::dom::Exception'
  3305. # [22:15] <@bz> hrm.....
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  3308. # [22:16] <@bz> Oh, sigh
  3309. # [22:16] * @bz includes more headers
  3310. # [22:16] <Waldo> botond: I'm inclined to say not really -- it's more about making it possible to have objects that are only *sometimes* constructed
  3311. # [22:16] <Waldo> botond: and it's really the auto-destruction after that point, that's its point
  3312. # [22:16] <botond> Waldo: ok. do we have a general optional/maybe type, or do we just always use a boolean/object pair?
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  3314. # [22:17] <Waldo> botond: but I may not be entirely sure what a general option/maybe type would support/do, so
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  3316. # [22:17] <botond> Waldo: (or a dynamically allocated object with nullptr to indicate "not there")
  3317. # [22:17] <Waldo> botond: well, dynamically allocated with nullptr as "not there" is UniquePtr, when I finish those patches
  3318. # [22:17] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: That should help
  3319. # [22:17] <Waldo> botond: I imagine it's ad hoc solutions per use case right now
  3320. # [22:18] <Waldo> botond: which might be bools and such, I dunno
  3321. # [22:18] <botond> Waldo: ok, thanks
  3322. # [22:18] <philor> mmm, sure hope we aren't going to chemspill, since we dropped our ability to run browser-chrome on linux on mozilla-release
  3323. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f98a4c2257f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 996831 followup to fix silly gcc build bustage and reopen the CLOSED TREE
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  3326. # [22:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: it was a conscious decision
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  3351. # [22:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f5ced1716d7 - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 996069 - Part2: minor cleanup in docshell. r=bz
  3352. # [22:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8cbd6019a24a - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 996069 - Part3: Stop inheriting nsEP when window.open is called. r=bz
  3353. # [22:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13ddfc1637df - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 996069 - Part1: nsContentUtils::IsSystemOrExpandedPrincipal. r=bz
  3354. # [22:34] <jesup> bsmedberg: patch up for review. NS_NewNamedThread is now equivalent to NS_NewThread in terms of safety for suicidal events
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  3360. # [22:38] <jesup> bsmedberg: thanks
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  3371. # [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed17d9bbe15c - Randell Jesup - Bug 997286: Make NS_NewNamedThread safe if the event tries to commit suicide r=bsmedberg
  3372. # [22:41] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: we believe in fast turnaround ;-)
  3373. # [22:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: nice :)
  3374. # [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95e6b5e31ce1 - David Keeler - bug 982774 - der::ExpectTagAndGetLength: check that input has enough capacity for the length described r=briansmith
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  3377. # [22:43] <@smaug> BenWa|email: how does one profile all the threads?
  3378. # [22:44] <NeilAway> bz: given bug 996911, what should I use instead of foo instance of Ci.nsIDOMXULElement (from a component) ?
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  3384. # [22:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: mochitest-2 orange now :(
  3385. # [22:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37950058&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  3388. # [22:49] <@bz> argh
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  3391. # [22:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bustage from 995295
  3392. # [22:50] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: mind just backing it out again?
  3393. # [22:50] <@bz> yeah
  3394. # [22:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k
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  3396. # [22:50] <@bz> I'm going to investigate, but later tonight. :(
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  3398. # [22:51] <NeilAway> jesup: why not thread.forget(result)?
  3399. # [22:51] <jesup> smaug: jprof ;-)
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  3401. # [22:51] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Today is just not my day
  3402. # [22:51] <jesup> NeilAway: cargo-culting NS_NewThread(). That code could do with a cleanup (and AsyncShutdown()), but thats for another bug
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  3404. # [22:52] <NeilAway> jesup: oh, fair enough
  3405. # [22:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d37b75f8cd3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets c674dc13ef85 and 0b3a14bbfd81 (bug 995295) for mochitest-2 crashes.
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  3408. # [22:52] <@smaug> jesup: this is b2g
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  3410. # [22:52] <@smaug> jesup: on desktop Zoom
  3411. # [22:53] <@smaug> that works fine
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  3415. # [22:53] <@smaug> but I don't know how to enable all-threads-system-profiling on b2g
  3416. # [22:53] <jesup> smaug: SOL. Actually, you can use perf IIRC. stevenlee is very up on how to do it
  3417. # [22:54] <jesup> Though I *hate* the output it gives
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  3419. # [22:54] <jesup> smaug: ptr to Zoom?
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  3421. # [22:54] <@smaug> http://www.rotateright.com/zoom/
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  3429. # [22:57] <jesup> smaug: Ouch!
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  3433. # [22:57] <jesup> I'm quite happy with jprof :-)
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  3435. # [22:58] <sheppy> Hey all, does the "Help Viewer" still exist as a thing? See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Help_Viewer
  3436. # [22:58] <sheppy> I'm pretty sure it does not. :)
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  3439. # [22:59] <@smaug> jesup: it is not that much
  3440. # [22:59] <@smaug> jesup: assuming one actually uses it
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  3449. # [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/de4559acdd58 - Valentin Tsatskin - Bug 986153 - Consolidate browser fonts. r=zaach, r=Unfocused
  3450. # [23:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/10e08afa522a - Alexandru Chiriac - Bug 931244 - Improved BrowserApp.onCreate() method readability by moving BrowserApp.mBrowserToolbar listeners to a private helper method. r=mcomella
  3451. # [23:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8bac6ad1d812 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 995162 - Rewrite the mechanism that (re)starts the OS.File worker. r=froydnj
  3452. # [23:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/373d7b1c42e0 - Jim Chen - Bug 996780 - Use ANDROID_TARGET_SDK for Eclipse project target. r=nalexander
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  3461. # [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: the pain continues - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37951641&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3462. # [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: on your gcc bustage push
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  3542. # [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6f49fe82d009 - Jared Wein - Bug 996899 - Calling CustomizableUI.registerArea with an altered 'legacy', 'overflowable', or 'type' should throw. r=mconley
  3543. # [23:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b3ea0d746ee4 - Jared Wein - Bug 985509 - Edit Bookmark panel button doesn't have an open state. r=mconley
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  3548. # [23:50] <abr> Is there some unified list of URI schemes that Firefox understands by default? I'm looking for things like "about," "res," "chrome," "data," -- that kind of thing.
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  3552. # [23:51] <@gavin> abr: no
  3553. # [23:51] <abr> gavin: thanks. Short and sweet. :)
  3554. # [23:51] <@gavin> I can elaborate if you'd like :)
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  3557. # [23:52] <abr> gavin: Thanks. I'm just putting together an email, and was looking for a relatively long list to make a point. But I think the schemes I can think of off the top of my head should be sufficient to demonstrate what I'm saying.
  3558. # [23:53] <abr> I mean, I found this, but it's clearly incomplete: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/URIScheme#List_of_URI_Schemes
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  3562. # [23:54] <@gavin> abr: yeah the list doesn't really exist because there's no central place where they are defined
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  3565. # [23:55] <@gavin> protocol handlers can be defined by components all over the place
  3566. # [23:55] <@gavin> (including add-ons)
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  3568. # [23:55] <abr> gavin: I figured it was something like that. Is there some way to interactively query a running instance of FFx to ask what schemes it currently understands at the moment it's queried?
  3569. # [23:56] <@gavin> don't think there's an easy api for that
  3570. # [23:57] <@khuey> abr: you can ask "do you understand protocol X"
  3571. # [23:57] <@khuey> abr: there's no API for "give me the set of protocols you understand"
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  3573. # [23:57] <@gavin> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=NS_NETWORK_PROTOCOL_CONTRACTID_PREFIX and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=network%2Fprotocol&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central give you probably most
  3574. # [23:57] <abr> khuey / gavin: Okay, cool. Thanks.
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  3576. # [23:57] <@khuey> nsIIOService::GetProtocolHandler does the former
  3577. # [23:59] <Mossop> Run [n.substring(37) for (n of Object.keys(Components.classes).filter(n => n.startsWith("@mozilla.org/network/protocol;1?name=")))] in a browser scratchpad
  3578. # Session Close: Thu Apr 17 00:00:00 2014

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