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3. # [00:00] <Mossop> I see: pcast,blob,chrome,feed,jar,view-source,ws,default,moz-icon,http,moz-page-thumb,file,mediasource,about,place,app,magnet,moz-device,resource,data,https,wyciwyg,ftp,moz-anno,moz-safe-about,javascript,moz-fonttable,wss,mediastream
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7. # [00:01] <abr> Mossop: Sweet! Thanks!
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13. # [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7b4cfd722bcd - Florian Quèze - Bug 971048 - Run language detection on webpages and display infobar when language is not the current UI locale, r=felipe.
14. # [00:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8c982eaeef86 - Florian Quèze - Bug 995321 - nsIDocumentEncoder.encodeToString should offer a way to limit the size of the output, r=smaug.
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17. # [00:05] <abr> whois Mossop
18. # [00:05] <abr> Heh.
19. # [00:05] <abr> Missed a slash. :)
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22. # [00:07] <nthomas> just some guy
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24. # [00:07] <abr> Wanted to see who I owed a beer to if/when I ever met up with him/her. :)
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35. # [00:09] <jesup> bsmedberg: if you're around - got annoyed and fixed the leak-a-thread-for-every-signed-jar-checked bug in CryptoTask
36. # [00:10] <jesup> bug 988881
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45. # [00:13] <RyanVM|afk> kip: would these asserts be from you? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37955433&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error0
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63. # [00:22] <NeilAway> !seen jwatt
64. # [00:22] <firebot> jwatt was last seen 24 hours, 10 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'yeah, looks like either that or jfs_compat.h' in #b2g.
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66. # [00:23] <NeilAway> sheppy: only SeaMonkey still includes it
67. # [00:23] <sheppy> NeilAway: yeah, that's what I figured.
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69. # [00:24] <NeilAway> !seen mattwoodrow
70. # [00:24] <firebot> mattwoodrow was last seen 23 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'yes, but we should never be passing a size bigger than the texture limit' in #gfx.
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72. # [00:24] <mattwoodrow> hi
73. # [00:24] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: hi
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75. # [00:25] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: I was looking at bug 950372 and wondering why the assert was added
76. # [00:26] <mattwoodrow> looking
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78. # [00:26] <mattwoodrow> NeilAway: which assert?
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81. # [00:27] <mattwoodrow> nsWindowsShellService?
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83. # [00:28] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: right
84. # [00:28] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a54345bfd338#l1.26
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86. # [00:28] <mattwoodrow> NeilAway: It was added because it would be pretty insane for it to fail
87. # [00:29] <mattwoodrow> which I assume is what’s happening if you’ve noticed it
88. # [00:29] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: no, I haven't noticed it
89. # [00:30] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: except in a code porting sense
90. # [00:30] <mattwoodrow> NeilAway: oh ok, that’s good then
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94. # [00:31] <mattwoodrow> The old code converted B8G8R8X8 (know as RGB24 under thebes) into B8G8R8A8 unnecessarily
95. # [00:31] <mattwoodrow> the new code doesn’t do, but just assert that we weren’t converting any other formats too
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97. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/aaf25cacd5b4 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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99. # [00:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/19a58f896d24 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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103. # [00:33] * @smaug feels bad using checkin-neeeded
104. # [00:33] <@smaug> needed
105. # [00:33] <KaiRo> neeeeeeeeeeeeded
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107. # [00:33] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: ok, so the image frame is RGB24?
108. # [00:34] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: oh wait, ARGB32
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116. # [00:35] <mattwoodrow> NeilAway: The image frame should be either RGB24 (B8G8R8X8) or ARGB32 (B8G8R8A8)
117. # [00:35] <mattwoodrow> which is what the assert is confirming
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119. # [00:36] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: ah, the old code always converted it to ARGB32, and then wrote it to the file as RGB24?
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121. # [00:36] <mattwoodrow> yeah
122. # [00:36] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: while the new code accepts either ARGB32 or RGB24 and writes it as RGB24?
123. # [00:37] <mattwoodrow> RGB24 is a really silly name btw, since it’s still 32 bits per pixel
124. # [00:37] <mattwoodrow> exactly
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126. # [00:38] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: and in practice we'll only get those two formats anyway?
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129. # [00:38] <mattwoodrow> yeah
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131. # [00:39] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: ok ta
132. # [00:39] <mattwoodrow> none of the other options make much sense. there’s 565, reversed byte order (R8G8B8A8) or alpha masks (A8), the image decoders shouldn’t be doing any of that
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135. # [00:41] <@njn> you know you've been doing too much JS programming when you start using !== in C++ code
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138. # [00:42] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: not even the .bmp decoder? ;-)
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143. # [00:43] <bholley> gps: ping
144. # [00:44] <bholley> ted: yt?
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147. # [00:45] <@njn> what are the Text{En,De}coderPrototype classes?
148. # [00:46] <bholley> mshal: ping
149. # [00:46] <@smaug> njn: in JS?
150. # [00:47] <philor> bz: and you'll love this one: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37955290&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, you seem to have given the hidden Android 2.3 emulator mochitest-5 a completely invisible failed test
151. # [00:47] <@smaug> same as with other interfaces
152. # [00:47] <@smaug> foo.prototype
153. # [00:47] <bholley> glandium: ping
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158. # [00:48] <bholley> why is it so hard to track down a build peer?
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160. # [00:48] <mshal> bholley: pong
161. # [00:49] <bholley> mshal: hey, can you steal the review from gps in bug 990353 real quick?
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164. # [00:49] <glandium> bholley: pong
165. # [00:49] <bholley> glandium: mshal is covering it - thanks :-)
166. # [00:50] <@njn> smaug: yes
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168. # [00:50] <@njn> bholley: some data you will be interested in: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4823433
169. # [00:51] <bholley> njn: interesting! That is per-instance?
170. # [00:51] <@smaug> http://heycam.github.io/webidl/#interface-prototype-object
171. # [00:51] <bholley> njn: er, per-type
172. # [00:51] <@njn> bholley: yeah, with object counts
173. # [00:51] <bholley> njn: man, Components.interfaces is _big_
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177. # [00:52] <@njn> bholley: calls in JS to |iid.equals()| seem to cause an object allocation -- does that sound right?
178. # [00:53] <bholley> njn: hm, really?
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180. # [00:53] <bholley> njn: iid.equals(someOtherIID)?
181. # [00:53] <@njn> bholley: my instrumentation could be lying, but it appears that way
182. # [00:53] <bholley> njn: or is it a string overload or something
183. # [00:53] <@njn> string overload?
184. # [00:53] <@njn> bholley: makeQI in XPCOMUtils.jsm is what I'm looking at
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187. # [00:54] <@njn> my instrumentation says all three .equals() calls cause object allocations
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189. # [00:54] <bholley> njn: ah
190. # [00:54] <bholley> njn: well
191. # [00:54] <bholley> njn: so
192. # [00:54] <@njn> I also learnt that |for each| causes an Iterator object to be allocated each time it's hit
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194. # [00:54] <bholley> iterating over Components.interfaces causes a ton of allocations
195. # [00:55] <@njn> bholley: why's that?
196. # [00:55] <bholley> njn: in generateQI
197. # [00:55] <bholley> njn: because it forces us to resolve every IID
198. # [00:55] <bholley> njn: each of which is a JSObject
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200. # [00:55] <bholley> njn: rather than letting the resolve hook do its magic
201. # [00:55] <@njn> bholley: so it's lazy object instantiation of some kind?
202. # [00:55] <bholley> njn: yes. There's a resolve hook on Ci
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204. # [00:56] <@njn> bholley: I see. Where is that hook in the code?
205. # [00:56] <bholley> njn: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCComponents.cpp#238
206. # [00:56] <bholley> njn: vs http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCComponents.cpp#289
207. # [00:57] <@gavin> bholley: generateQI doesn't iterate over Components.interfaces
208. # [00:57] <@njn> yeah, I was about to say the same thing
209. # [00:57] <bholley> oh
210. # [00:57] <bholley> wait
211. # [00:57] <@njn> |interfaceNames| typically has between 1 and 5 elements
212. # [00:57] <bholley> I misread it
213. # [00:57] <bholley> ok then
214. # [00:58] <bholley> mshal: thanks
215. # [00:58] <mshal> np
216. # [00:59] <bholley> njn: so
217. # [00:59] <bholley> iid.equals(Ci.nsISupports)
218. # [00:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a5cee95d219e - Wes Johnston - Bug 997406 - Default to Link context menu items in context menus. r=bnicholson
219. # [00:59] <bholley> njn: the allocation you're seeing there is presumably the lazy creation of Ci.nsISupports
220. # [01:00] <@njn> bholley: but I'm seeing 100s of allocations from that line
221. # [01:01] <bholley> njn: oh, hm
222. # [01:01] <bholley> njn: let me look
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225. # [01:02] <@njn> bholley: and 100s from the iid.equals(Ci.nsIClassInfo). Both of these just from starting the browser
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228. # [01:03] * @njn is grovelling through XPCJSID.cpp, without luck
229. # [01:04] <bholley> njn: ok, let me dig into this
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231. # [01:04] <@njn> bholley: ok, thanks
232. # [01:04] * bholley writes a quick testcase
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251. # [01:21] <mconnor> who's working on the inbound bustage?
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254. # [01:21] <@dbaron> remind me what the rules for integer conversions in C++ are?
255. # [01:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1ab6bbd62c76 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 12: Ability to ignore hashes of downloaded experiments; r=gfritzsche
256. # [01:22] <@dbaron> if I have a uint32_t and pass it to a function taking uint16_t, what happens if it's outside the range?
257. # [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5c3a195a107e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 13: Rename functions for associating with Add-on Manager; r=gfritzsche
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259. # [01:23] <@njn> dbaron: my first guess would be undefined behabiour
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268. # [01:28] <kip> dbaron: Expect it to be truncated, essentially & 0xffff
269. # [01:29] <kip> dbaron: When overflowing, will not clamp between 0x0000 and 0xffff, but rather wrap around
270. # [01:29] <heycam> sicking, pong, if you wanted to say more than your email
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274. # [01:31] <@dbaron> was just discussing with RyanVM
275. # [01:32] <@dbaron> apparently it's happening cross-trees now
276. # [01:32] <@dbaron> kip, yeah, that's what I expected (at least for unsigned), but wasn't sure if it was defined behavior or not
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281. # [01:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b54654e26cd - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 996474, bug 996831) for B2G bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
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283. # [01:33] <jimb> Is it problematic to push doc-only, DONTBUILD changes to a closed tree?
284. # [01:34] <@dbaron> jimb, depends on the closure... if you're going to cause push races with somebody trying to push a backout to get the tree open again, it can be a little bit of a problem; if it's a closure that's for something involving automated pushes (release process), bigger problem
285. # [01:34] <jimb> dbaron: Okay, so there are cases where it's troublesome. I'll wait until tomorrow, then.
286. # [01:34] <jimb> thanks
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289. # [01:35] <sicking> heycam: in a sec
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296. # [01:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2c1a0b0551fb - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 15: Convert browser_experiments.js to add_task; r=Unfocused
297. # [01:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/73da7e611e92 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 14: Return a promise from Experiments.init(); r=gfritzsche
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302. # [01:41] <sicking> heycam: hey
303. # [01:41] <sicking> heycam: so, i don't think we should mention webidl at all when talking to alex and dominic
304. # [01:42] <sicking> heycam: the question we should pose is: We have an API like navigator.gamepads, what should it return?
305. # [01:42] <@njn> bholley: any progress?
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308. # [01:43] <heycam> sicking, yeah that's fair. we can concentrate on the visible JS effects that we want to get, and then we can figure out later how to make the appropriate IDL changes
309. # [01:43] <sicking> heycam: and: How should inputelement.files behave? Does it return an array, what happens if that array is mutated, when is the UI updated, what happens if you set the .files property, etc
310. # [01:43] <sicking> heycam: yep. I think the webidl syntax will be on us
311. # [01:43] <heycam> ok
312. # [01:43] <sicking> heycam: and we should talk about concrete API examples I think. That'll keep the discussion focused
313. # [01:44] <sicking> heycam: sorry to shoot down a big thing that you wrote :(
314. # [01:44] <heycam> sicking, no it was useful to page everything back into my head :)
315. # [01:44] <sicking> heycam: cool
316. # [01:44] <sicking> heycam: and thanks for doing this!
317. # [01:44] <heycam> I'll rewrite and send out later today
318. # [01:44] <sicking> great, thanks!
319. # [01:45] <heycam> sicking, so, about [Cached]
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321. # [01:45] <heycam> and whether that should be just something that spec prose needs to handle
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323. # [01:45] <heycam> and whether we need to somehow require that properties with arrays in them only get updated at particular times
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326. # [01:45] <heycam> I'm still not sure what the right answer is there
327. # [01:45] <sicking> heycam: [cached] is the thing that we use to make sure that we return the same instance between calls?
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329. # [01:45] <heycam> yeah
330. # [01:46] <heycam> unless the values in the array would change
331. # [01:46] <sicking> heycam: right
332. # [01:46] * sicking ponders
333. # [01:46] <heycam> I think we should still consider whether we want to modify the same array, rather than replace the array
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335. # [01:46] <heycam> or at least, maybe both things should be possible, but we should decide/discuss which is the preferred pattern
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337. # [01:46] <sicking> whether we freeze the array or not will affect that
338. # [01:46] <sicking> if it's frozen then we can't mutate it
339. # [01:47] <heycam> that's true. for the (B) case iirc. for (D), where we want to allow mutations from either side, we won't be freezing
340. # [01:47] <sicking> right. (D) is a special snowflake
341. # [01:47] <sicking> i'm not convinced that we can do D in a sane way at all
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343. # [01:48] <sicking> but for B we could indeed expose a non-frozen array and then mutate it
344. # [01:48] <heycam> I feel like we need to solve it though
345. # [01:48] <sicking> D might need to simply be a getter/setter pair to be honest
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347. # [01:49] <heycam> especially since I know we want to solve it for Maps for some other APIs, and I'd like something to follow there
348. # [01:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5b8b5f3b200f - Mike Conley - Bug 997227 - Entering and exiting tabview makes items in tabs toolbar collide with fullscreen button. r=Gijs, MattN.
349. # [01:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c94117f49274 - Mike Conley - Backout 47845138fae1 (bug 996148) because the solution from bug 997227 is better. r=backout.
350. # [01:49] <heycam> we'll see what alex & co think about that case
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352. # [01:49] <sicking> yup
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354. # [01:50] <sicking> heycam: a big argument against mutating the existing array is that that's essentially a live list
355. # [01:51] <heycam> sicking, what is the reason people are against a live list. that it forces authors to clone the list to avoid it changing under them while they're iterating it?
356. # [01:51] <sicking> heycam: essentially yeah
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358. # [01:52] <heycam> ok
359. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1d53e1a09dc3 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
360. # [01:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d7d504d076a8 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
361. # [01:52] <sicking> heycam: it's of course especially bad for APIs like NodeList, which can change *during* a turn. And not just between turns
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365. # [01:53] <sicking> heycam: not in a run-to-completion-breaking way of course, but in a way where it changes in response to some action that the script might be taking. Either directly or indirectly taking
366. # [01:53] <heycam> sicking, right
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368. # [01:53] <jesup_mac> RyanVM|afk: That xpcom bug I fixed turns out to be the source for a bunch of webaudio hangs as well (triggered by bug 919215)
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376. # [01:59] <jesup_mac> bz: b2g mainlines. Smoking is for pikers
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378. # [02:01] <@bz> so can someone explain to me what the b2g compiler is complaining about? :(
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380. # [02:01] <@dbaron> bz, is it one of the compilers that does nonunified builds?
381. # [02:02] <@bz> I don't know
382. # [02:02] <@bz> but.....
383. # [02:02] <@bz> 14:23:07 ERROR - ../../../gecko/dom/bindings/ToJSValue.cpp:55: error: redefinition of 'bool mozilla::dom::ToJSValue(JSContext*, nsresult, JS::MutableHandle<JS::Value>)'
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385. # [02:02] <@bz> 14:23:07 ERROR - ../../dist/include/mozilla/dom/ToJSValue.h:58: error: 'bool mozilla::dom::ToJSValue(JSContext*, nsresult, JS::MutableHandle<JS::Value>)' previously defined here
386. # [02:03] <froydnj> bz: nsresult is typedef uint32_t on b2g, I bet
387. # [02:03] <mmc> does anyone know how to set the appid on an nsILoadContext without using mozilla::LoadContext? i am running into windows compile errors using that
388. # [02:03] <@bz> oh!
389. # [02:03] <froydnj> since b2g gcc doesn't have the fancy typed enum stuff
390. # [02:03] * @bz looks at the line numbers
391. # [02:03] <@bz> well, crud
392. # [02:03] * @bz wonders how to make this work
393. # [02:04] <@bz> froydnj: Thanks
394. # [02:04] <seth> so is there anyone using xcode for debugging that doesn't have ridiculously high CPU usage while doing it?
395. # [02:04] <seth> it seems to mostly be coming from xcode reindexing the source tree. i don't know whether that will break things in the debugger if i disable it, though
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397. # [02:05] <froydnj> bz: you might be able to fix it similarly to how ipc ParamTraits deals with this
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399. # [02:05] <kip> seth: I use xcode for debugging...
400. # [02:05] * @bz looks at paramtraits
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402. # [02:06] <seth> kip: ah yes, i remember you showing me the profiler at the work week recently
403. # [02:06] <kip> seth: You can disable indexing without any effect on the debugging.. Autocompletion will no longer work though. There is a hidden preference to set if you want to turn it off (global)
404. # [02:06] <seth> kip: if debugging will still work, then i think i'd like to turn it off. do you know offhand what the preference is? if not i'll head to google =)
405. # [02:06] <kip> seth: Personally, I just leave xcode open overnight the first time I load a large project, then it will update indexes incrementally
406. # [02:06] <@dbaron> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997506 on the layout assertions currently on inbound and fx-team
407. # [02:07] <RyanVM|afk> dbaron: thanks
408. # [02:07] <seth> kip: does it only update indexes incrementally if i leave it open? maybe my problem is that i'm closing it frequently
409. # [02:07] <@dbaron> still not sure what to do about it
410. # [02:07] <kip> seth: Don't remember it by heart, but you will need to enter something into the command line. Not exposed through gui
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412. # [02:08] <@bz> Or I could just remove the uint32 ToJSValue for now
413. # [02:08] <@bz> with a comment explaining why
414. # [02:08] <seth> kip: thanks! i'll look into that
415. # [02:09] <froydnj> I think that would run into problems everywhere other than b2g
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417. # [02:09] <@bz> why?
418. # [02:09] <@bz> if no one is using it with uint32_t?
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420. # [02:09] <@bz> (which I'm pretty sure is the case so far)
421. # [02:09] <@bz> If we find a consumer that does want to use it...
422. # [02:10] <froydnj> ah, that's a good point
423. # [02:10] <@bz> then we worry about adding complexity
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426. # [02:11] <@bz> The paramtraits stuff would require me to move to traits classes here
427. # [02:11] <@bz> instead of structs
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429. # [02:11] <@bz> er, instead of functions
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431. # [02:11] <tbsaunde> so, has there been some disable webrtc bustage recently?
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433. # [02:11] <@bz> which is doable, but annoying
434. # [02:11] <kip> seth: The index files are stored in the ~/Library/Developer/Xcode/DerivedData directory
435. # [02:11] <kip> seth: This directory also doesn't get cleaned up automatically..
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438. # [02:12] <jesup_mac> tbsaunde: yes, caused by moving libyuv to /media
439. # [02:12] <kip> seth: If you've got a fast partition (ssd) or enough room for a ramdisk, you can speed up compiles and indexing by symlinking this directory there
440. # [02:12] <tbsaunde> bz: couldn't you just ifdef the nsresult one away if __GNUC__ <= 4.4? horrible but probably works
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442. # [02:12] <@bz> tbsaunde: the nsresult one we have uses for
443. # [02:12] <@bz> tbsaunde: esp on b2g
444. # [02:12] <@bz> tbsaunde: so....
445. # [02:13] <tbsaunde> bz: but if uint32_t and nsresult are the same type...
446. # [02:13] <@bz> I'm converting them to a JS::Value
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448. # [02:13] <tbsaunde> or is the handling of them different?
449. # [02:13] <@bz> the way to do that for uint32_t is NumberValue()
450. # [02:13] <seth> kip: i usually do building/editing with vim, so i think in my case the indexing xcode is doing doesn't buy me much
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452. # [02:13] <@bz> The way to do that for nsresult is to create an exception object
453. # [02:13] <@bz> So the handling is somewhat different, yes.
454. # [02:13] <tbsaunde> err yeah ok
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456. # [02:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d849022d8633 - Ed Morley - Bug 991134 - Output an additional failure line for loadfailed: null failures to make bug 789751 and bug 720452 TBPL starable; r=dbaron
457. # [02:15] * @bz does a try run again
458. # [02:15] <kip> seth: You may also reduce indexing time by simply not adding the files to the project.. Just create a blank project and attach the debugger to the process built outside xcode. It should resolve the source directories
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461. # [02:15] <@bz> Another option is to use different function names for resolve and reject
462. # [02:15] <@bz> since we should never be resolving with an nsresult and never be rejecting with an integer
463. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/aaf5030cbf98 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 964718 Don't dispatch DOM event if internal event doesn't need that. Otherwise, implement Duplicate() method r=smaug, a=sylvestre
464. # [02:16] <bholley> njn: sorry, went to go take a break. Looking at it again
465. # [02:16] <seth> kip: i originally added the files because i wanted to be able to set breakpoints directly in the code and step through it. but i guess that would've worked without adding the files?
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467. # [02:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faeaf2881148 - John Daggett - Bug 997006 - rename text-combine-horizontal to text-combine-upright. r=dholbert
468. # [02:17] <kip> seth: I've just added the files as I needed to add a breakpoint... :-)
469. # [02:17] <bholley> njn: so, the resolve hook seems to be working correctly
470. # [02:17] <seth> kip: heh, that works too =)
471. # [02:17] <bholley> njn: where should I break to see the object allocation?
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475. # [02:21] <bholley> njn: JSObject::create doesn't appear to get triggerred
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479. # [02:23] <@njn> bholley: AllocateObjectForCacheHit or AllocateObject
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483. # [02:25] <bholley> njn: hm yeah, not reproducing with a simple Components.interfaces.nsIClassInfo.equals(Components.interfaces.nsISupports)
484. # [02:25] <@njn> bholley: bleh
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487. # [02:26] <bholley> njn: let me fire up a browser
488. # [02:27] <bholley> njn: oh, question
489. # [02:27] <bholley> njn: is it only the first line?
490. # [02:27] <bholley> njn: or do all of the .equals() show this?
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492. # [02:28] <@njn> bholley: all
493. # [02:28] <@njn> bholley: though the 3rd one only triggers one allocation
494. # [02:28] <bholley> njn: and the second?
495. # [02:28] <@njn> the first line is ~400 allocations, the second is ~100, the third is ~1
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497. # [02:28] <bholley> ok
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499. # [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/53331c2b0ad7 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
500. # [02:29] <bholley> njn: can you pastebin me your instrumentation patch? Or is it involved?
501. # [02:31] <@njn> bholley: gimme a minute to disentangle several different bits
502. # [02:32] <@njn> bholley: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4824405
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505. # [02:33] <@njn> bholley: often I get two allocations triggered from the 1st .equals() call
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510. # [02:37] <bkelly> does printf_stderr() show up in try test logs?
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515. # [02:39] <fabrice> it should
516. # [02:39] <fabrice> dump() does
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518. # [02:40] <@gavin> [16 12:00:33] <froydnj> bsmedberg: printf_stderr will dtrt on all platforms
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520. # [02:41] <@gavin> was discussed just earlier today!
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522. # [02:41] * philor wonders how true it is of Android if you don't carefully crash immediately afterward to ensure that tailing logcat will include you, though
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525. # [02:42] <bkelly> fabrice: gavin: thanks! (sorry... can't keep up with the scrollback in this channel...)
526. # [02:43] <bholley> njn: oh!
527. # [02:43] <bholley> njn: I know what it is
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531. # [02:43] <@njn> bholley: ...
532. # [02:44] <@bz> grrrr.
533. # [02:44] <@bz> is pushing to try not working?
534. # [02:44] <bholley> njn: nsJSIID ar non-classinfo, so .equals gets resolved as a separate function object on each of them, every time
535. # [02:44] <@njn> bholley: erk
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537. # [02:44] <bholley> njn: how much are these allocations costing us?
538. # [02:44] <bkelly> bz: I had one hung up on a lock earlier and fubar in #it said a previous push was just taking a very long time to go through
539. # [02:45] <@bz> ok
540. # [02:45] * @bz just waits
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542. # [02:45] <@njn> bholley: not that much
543. # [02:45] <@bz> RyanVM|afk: thanks for backing stuff out. :(
544. # [02:45] <@njn> bholley: I'm just trying to understand all the allocations going on
545. # [02:45] <bholley> njn: right
546. # [02:45] <bkelly> seems like something must be wrong for pushes to be running slow, though...
547. # [02:45] <bholley> njn: so
548. # [02:45] <@njn> bholley: most system compartments are dominated by Function objects
549. # [02:45] <bkelly> I assume
550. # [02:45] <@bz> RyanVM|afk: I'm sorry I didn't just do more -p all -u all pushes. :(
551. # [02:45] <RyanVM|afk> such is life
552. # [02:45] <bholley> njn: my guess is that a lot of it is the same stuff
553. # [02:46] <bholley> njn: XPCWNs are per-compartment
554. # [02:46] <bholley> njn: so for ones without classinfo, the QI logic ends up making lots of duplicate method implementations
555. # [02:46] <bholley> njn: so I was pondering during my snack
556. # [02:46] <@njn> bholley: is that avoidable?
557. # [02:46] <bholley> njn: and I think we might be able to just coalesce _all_ XPCWNs into a single compartment
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559. # [02:47] <bholley> njn: and access them via cross-compartment wrappers
560. # [02:47] * @njn doesn't even know what XPCWNs are for
561. # [02:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/496a5b50e7a9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 996929 - Implement OptimizeSourceSurface for all Moz2D backends. r=Bas
562. # [02:47] <RyanVM|afk> bz: we're probably going to start clamping down on Try requirements on checkin-neededs soon
563. # [02:47] <RyanVM|afk> at least a T-push
564. # [02:47] <RyanVM|afk> (which would have caught your problems tonight)
565. # [02:48] <bholley> njn: XPCWrappedNatives are the C++ objects that reflect arbitrary XPCOM objects into JS
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567. # [02:48] <bholley> njn: we used to use them for everything, including DOM objects
568. # [02:48] <@njn> 0.13 MB (00.12%) ++ class(XPCWrappedNative_NoHelper, nobjs=354)
569. # [02:48] <@njn> quite a few
570. # [02:48] <bholley> njn: but with the new bindings, it's mostly random system objects, like nsIObserverService and nsIFile
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572. # [02:48] <bholley> njn: but that's just the XPCWNs themselves
573. # [02:48] <bholley> njn: what's the overhead of the functions?
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577. # [02:49] <@njn> bholley: not entirely clear, but FxAccountsUtils.jsm is a trivial module, and it has this:
578. # [02:49] <@njn> 0.02 MB (00.01%) ++ class(Function, nobjs=129)
579. # [02:49] <@njn> bholley: and for every system compartment I've looked at, Function objects took the most space
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581. # [02:50] <bholley> njn: are those 354 XPCWNs in one compartment? Or for the whole runtime?
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583. # [02:50] <@njn> bholley: a single compartment (XPCOMUtils.jsm)
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585. # [02:51] <bholley> njn: yikes
586. # [02:51] <@njn> bholley: sorry, I meant XPIProvider.jsm
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588. # [02:51] <@njn> bholley: XPCOMUtils.jsm has 530!
589. # [02:51] <@njn> bholley: Promises.jsm has only 6
590. # [02:51] <bholley> njn: ok. I'm going to prototype moving all the XPCWNs into a single scope
591. # [02:51] <@njn> bholley: some compartment have only 1, quite a few have dozens, a few have 100s
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595. # [02:52] <@njn> bholley: scope == compartment?
596. # [02:52] <bholley> njn: correct
597. # [02:53] <@njn> bholley: now I'm confused; are the XPCWNs related to the high number of Function objects?
598. # [02:53] <bholley> njn: yes
599. # [02:53] <bholley> njn: let me explain
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602. # [02:54] <fabrice> bholley: look at the dtX failures in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=eeb1bcb7472b - something went wrong with the changes to NotifyOffThreadScriptLoadCompletedRunnable from bug 965970
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604. # [02:54] <@njn> bholley: (I'll send you the patch that gives this per-class info; you'll probably want to use it to evaluate your patch and do other kinds of digging)
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606. # [02:54] <bholley> fabrice: gimme a few
607. # [02:55] <bholley> njn: so, there are two ways we can create a method for an XPCWN
608. # [02:55] <bholley> njn: for some random XPCOM object without classinfo, we have a resolve hook on the JSObject that generates reflections of native methods (like .equals) on-demand
609. # [02:56] <bholley> njn: if the objects have classinfo, then we can optimize that and let them share a prototype, and put the functions there
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611. # [02:56] <bholley> njn: but nsJSID doesn't have classinfo
612. # [02:56] <@njn> bholley: could it have a classinfo?
613. # [02:56] <bholley> njn: so each individual instance of an iid needs to create its own .equals method
614. # [02:56] <bholley> njn: it could, yes
615. # [02:57] <bholley> njn: but this is probably a more general problem
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617. # [02:57] <bholley> njn: more importantly
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619. # [02:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca90cc514b09 - Ethan Tseng - Bug 996688 - Prevent potential crash in RtspConnectionHandler::parsePlayResponse. r=sworkman
620. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0820dbc1ab42 - Manish Goregaokar - Bug 992185 - Download location preference field not initializing properly. r=gavin
621. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28d75105f7c8 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 898963 - Odinmonkey (ARM): Optimize asm.js FFI calls to Ion functions, trim regs saved, inline activation and deactivation. r=luke
622. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/234646463e96 - Ethan Tseng - Bug 877193 - Reduce memory usage for RTSP streaming. r=sworkman
623. # [02:57] <bholley> njn: there's another important distinction between types of XPCWNs
624. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0d5c27b7257 - Olli Pettay - Bug 957666 - Send back a huge retry reconnection time in delayedServerEvents.sjs. r=ehsan
625. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1b66744e023 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 898963 - Odinmonkey (ARM): Refactor GenerateFFIInterpreterExit. r=luke
626. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acdf76fb15b9 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 997380 - Resolve ambiguous reference to strdup. r=bjacob
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628. # [02:58] <bholley> njn: depending on whether or not the native knows which global object it belongs to
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630. # [02:58] <bholley> njn: when we call nsContentUtils::WrapNative with some native, we have to know what compartment to use for the JSObject allocation
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633. # [02:58] <bholley> njn: with me so far?
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636. # [02:59] <@njn> bholley: barely, but keep going :)
637. # [02:59] <bholley> njn: so, suppose I'm in compartment X, and I wrap some native that knows it's supposed to live in compartment Y
638. # [02:59] <bholley> njn: we ask it, and it says "Y"
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641. # [02:59] <bholley> njn: so we create it in Y, and then create a cross-compartment wrapper to X, which we return to the caller
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643. # [03:00] <@njn> ok
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646. # [03:00] <bholley> njn: but supposing it doesn't know
647. # [03:00] <bholley> njn: the only thing we can do is to create it in X
648. # [03:00] <bholley> njn: but then suppose someone in Y also calls WrapNative on the same native
649. # [03:00] <bholley> njn: then we create it in Y
650. # [03:00] <@njn> duplication
651. # [03:00] <bholley> njn: then, we're in danger of running afoul of identity comparisons
652. # [03:01] <bholley> njn: because if compartment X passes the object to compartment Y, we need the objects to compare equal, since they correspond to the same native
653. # [03:01] <bholley> njn: so, for these objects, we never actually create cross-compartment wrappers at all
654. # [03:02] <@njn> ok
655. # [03:02] <bholley> njn: whenever we call wrap, we just create a brand new XPCWN in the new compartment (or use the pre-existing one, if it was already created for that compartment)
656. # [03:02] <bholley> njn: so this is potentially a major source of duplication right now
657. # [03:02] <bholley> njn: historically we used XPWNs for everything, including the DOM
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659. # [03:02] <bholley> njn: but now, they're basically just used by chrome code
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661. # [03:03] <bholley> njn: so we could prototype a setup whereby, if the native doesn't know its compartment, we stick it in the JunkScope
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663. # [03:03] <@njn> bholley: so all this at least partly explains why reusing one system compartment saves so much memory
664. # [03:03] <bholley> njn: right
665. # [03:03] <bholley> njn: I was going to comment on that this week, but I never had time to sit down and comment in the bug
666. # [03:04] <bholley> njn: and the functions were confusing me
667. # [03:04] <bholley> njn: but now I understand
668. # [03:04] <@njn> good!
669. # [03:04] <bholley> njn: the XPCWNs are actually dwarfed by the resolved functions
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672. # [03:05] <bholley> njn: so I'm going to see how easily I can just stick all these XPCWNs in the junk scope
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675. # [03:05] <@njn> bholley: cool. I'll send you my per-class instrumentation patch
676. # [03:05] <@njn> bholley: it actually landed a while back, but bounced, due to intermittent ASAN crashes :)
677. # [03:05] <@njn> er, :(
678. # [03:06] <bholley> njn: I'll write the patch and see if I can get it working
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680. # [03:06] <bholley> njn: if so, I'll let you measure, since you've been looking at this stuff more
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682. # [03:07] <@njn> bholley: ok, I can measure, but I'll send you the patch anyway just in case
683. # [03:07] <bholley> njn: sounds good
684. # [03:07] <@njn> bholley: you might be able to find other stuff by looking through live measurements, rather than me telling you about them :)
685. # [03:07] <bholley> njn: I have no idea if this is a 10-minute thing or a 10-day thing
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687. # [03:08] <froydnj> probably looks like a 10-minute thing, but will turn out to be a 10-day thing :)
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689. # [03:09] <bholley> froydnj: oh!
690. # [03:09] <bholley> er
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692. # [03:09] <bholley> fabrice: oh!
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694. # [03:09] <bholley> fabrice: you need to static_cast the .get() of the smart pointer
695. # [03:09] <bholley> fabrice: I think
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697. # [03:10] <bholley> fabrice: or maybe not
698. # [03:10] <bholley> fabrice: sec
699. # [03:11] <@njn> bholley: if you could write a comment in bug 989373 about this (or maybe just file a new bug and mention it in bug 989373) that'd be great!
700. # [03:11] <bholley> njn: yes, I will do that
701. # [03:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2761b3292e5c - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
702. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/41151cd34e44 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
703. # [03:12] <@njn> bholley: thanks
704. # [03:12] <@njn> bholley: I will keep digging into this stuff, and let you know if I find anyting else that looks weird :)
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707. # [03:14] <mgs> I thought I would be able to "fix" firefox to compile on osx with a X11 target in a few days. I'm entering week 3... :P
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709. # [03:14] <bholley> fabrice: this is khuey's fault
710. # [03:14] <bholley> khuey: ping
711. # [03:14] <mgs> and depending on the webrtc situation, it sounds like I might up the creek without paddle!
712. # [03:14] <mgs> be*
713. # [03:15] <bholley> khuey: so, after your changes, we can no longer foo.forget();
714. # [03:15] * Waldo recalls that scene from The Blues Brothers
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716. # [03:15] <froydnj> already_AddRefed problems?
717. # [03:15] <bholley> so now we're supposed to do:
718. # [03:15] <bholley> unused << foo.forget();
719. # [03:16] <bholley> ?
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721. # [03:16] <froydnj> think so
722. # [03:16] <froydnj> why are we dropping the ref on the floor in the first place?
723. # [03:16] <dholbert> bholley, doesn't that leak?
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725. # [03:16] <bholley> we're passing it off to the JS engine
726. # [03:16] <bholley> which will asynchronously call a callback, which takes ownership of the reference
727. # [03:17] <froydnj> how...obvious
728. # [03:17] <bholley> https://hg.mozilla.org/try/file/eeb1bcb7472b/content/base/src/nsScriptLoader.cpp#l850
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730. # [03:18] <dholbert> bholley, IIRC khuey mentioned a hackaround that you could call on the thing returned by forget() to "use" it
731. # [03:18] <dholbert> other than unused
732. # [03:18] <froydnj> or just runnable.forget().take(), perhaps?
733. # [03:18] <dholbert> yeah, that sounds like it
734. # [03:18] <froydnj> in the call, that is
735. # [03:18] <bholley> dholbert, froydnj: Presumably the unused << thing is preferable, otherwise it wouldn't exist, right?
736. # [03:19] <dholbert> bholley, I'm not sure unused << will help you
737. # [03:19] <bholley> dholbert: why not?
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739. # [03:19] <bholley> dholbert: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsCOMPtr.h#168
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741. # [03:20] <dholbert> bholley, note the "take()" there
742. # [03:20] <dholbert> bholley, you need that part
743. # [03:20] <bholley> dholbert: right
744. # [03:20] * froydnj enourages his 10.8 tests on try to run
745. # [03:20] <bholley> dholbert: but what else does this function do that I don't need?
746. # [03:20] <dholbert> bholley, oh, sorry
747. # [03:20] <dholbert> I missed the fact that that was a specialization of << for unused, which itself calls take()
748. # [03:21] <dholbert> bholley, sneaky. ok, that should work, I'd think
749. # [03:21] <bholley> dholbert: but I guess that the unused part is just to shut the compiler up about unused variables, right?
750. # [03:21] <bholley> dholbert: so in this case, we probably don't need it
751. # [03:21] <bholley> ok
752. # [03:21] <bholley> so
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754. # [03:22] <bholley> fabrice: add .take() to the end of forget() (which I think happens in a few places)
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757. # [03:23] <@khuey> bholley: unused << foo.forget() if you're throwing it away
758. # [03:23] <bholley> khuey: why that over .take?
759. # [03:23] <dholbert> bholley, oh, take() has MOZ_WARN_UNUSED_RESULT
760. # [03:23] <@khuey> bholley: you need the unused anyways to suppress the unused return value warning
761. # [03:23] <dholbert> yeah
762. # [03:23] <bholley> got it
763. # [03:23] <@khuey> e.g. foo.forget().take() warns
764. # [03:23] <bholley> fabrice: ok, that
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766. # [03:24] <bholley> fabrice: unused << foo.forget();
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770. # [03:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a80a58607a35 - Mark Hammond - Bug 985868 - only report prolonged sync errors once per application invocation. r=rnewman
771. # [03:27] <mgs> I've been writing a patch for problematic conditionals that check for XP_MACOSX to determine if MOZ_WIDGET_COCOA is in use in the dom/plugin code. Unfortunately, my patch doesn't result in a working build because even though the previous snags in compile are fixed it now gets stuck on webrtc which I can't seem to compile (and disabling results in a broken build too, part of which I can
772. # [03:27] <mgs> attribute to another bug I found in MediaNavigator.cpp that is calling webrtc functions outside the protection of conditionals. Is the best recourse for me to continue to attempt patching these things or to just file a detailed report and include my patch for the X11 stuff?
773. # [03:27] <mgs> woah...
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776. # [03:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fceba10dc04b - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 996821 - Force semantic HTML elements to have accessible objects. r=surkov
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778. # [03:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31b7ff03d496 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 996268 - Move traversal rule prefilter to constants. r=yzen
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783. # [03:30] <dholbert> mgs, as you may have already discovered, the build failure with --disable-webrtc is known (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981780 ), though I'm not sure how soon it'll be fixed
784. # [03:31] <bholley> philor: are you sheriff?
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788. # [03:31] <rnewman> 4 lyfe
789. # [03:32] <RyanVM|afk> bholley: what's up?
790. # [03:32] <fabrice> bholley: ok.
791. # [03:32] <mgs> dholbert: unfortunately, I am aware. I was saddened since I think I'm sort of at a impasse until something changes with that and I'm hesitant to get involved since khuey was telling me you guys are going to be very reluctant to consider any surgery on webrtc code.
792. # [03:32] <dholbert> mgs, I don't see any mention of MediaNavigator in the tree, but whatever issue you're hitting there, probably makes sense to file a separate bug on it & fix it before your main mac bug
793. # [03:32] <bholley> RyanVM|afk: I just wanted to give you a heads-up that I'm pushing something DONTBUILD
794. # [03:33] <mgs> dholbert: ok
795. # [03:33] <dholbert> mgs, well, it depends on how intense the surgery is. If you're just moving around some #ifdefs to correct an obvious oversight in builds w/ webrtc enabled, I wouldn't expect much pushback
796. # [03:33] <RyanVM|afk> bholley: to where?
797. # [03:34] <dholbert> (where the oversight would be whatever's causing you trouble in your webrtc-enabled builds)
798. # [03:34] <bholley> RyanVM|afk: inbound and beta
799. # [03:34] <bholley> er
800. # [03:34] <bholley> inbound and aurora
801. # [03:34] <bholley> RyanVM|afk: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95120513fd8e
802. # [03:34] <RyanVM|afk> jesup: the latest and greatest - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37969172&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
803. # [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95120513fd8e - Bobby Holley - Bug 997527 - Remove debugging code from bug 960828. r=me a=me DONTBUILD
804. # [03:34] <bholley> RyanVM|afk: ok by you?
805. # [03:34] <RyanVM|afk> *shrug*
806. # [03:35] <mgs> dholbert: alright, you've convinced me! I'll stay on the job a bit longer! ;D
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808. # [03:35] <mgs> I'll peek into webrtc and see if I can figure it out
809. # [03:35] <dholbert> mgs, cool!
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811. # [03:35] <dholbert> good luck
812. # [03:35] <mgs> thanks for the help!
813. # [03:36] <bholley> RyanVM|afk: I just hate the idea of spending 40 dollars running CI on that
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822. # [03:39] <philor> certainly wouldn't be the worst $40 we'd spend all day
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824. # [03:39] <RyanVM|afk> bz: #it is looking into the Try issues
825. # [03:39] * philor looks pointedly at all the -p all -u all pushes to try which only touch gonk/
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828. # [03:41] <mattwoodrow> It would be nice if something could tell you which platforms to test based on what you touched
829. # [03:41] <mattwoodrow> maybe even just part of try syntax, -p all_platforms_that_my_changes_are_built_on
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841. # [03:47] <froydnj> maybe once everything is in moz.build and python-ified, automation can start looking at build dependencies to approximate that
842. # [03:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/4953b30842cd - Mike Habicher - Bug 990761 - handle HDR sending us more than one picture, r=dhylands
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858. # [04:01] <RyanVM|afk> Bas: WTF are you pushing to Try that's taking so long?
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860. # [04:01] <Bas> RyanVM|: It's saying a lock's held, by hgssh1.dmz.sc13.mozilla.com:3172
861. # [04:02] <Bas> What I'm pushing is only 3 changesets, less than 200 lines total.
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863. # [04:02] <Bas> RyanVM|afk: I'm not to thrilled either, shall I abort so you can try if you can get something working?
864. # [04:03] <RyanVM|afk> Bas: no, because that runs the risk of hanging up others
865. # [04:03] <RyanVM|afk> are you pushing against some old head or something?
866. # [04:03] <Bas> RyanVM: This morning.
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868. # [04:03] <RyanVM|afk> *sigh*
869. # [04:03] * RyanVM|afk thinks Try needs a reset
870. # [04:03] <Bas> RyanVM|afk: If there's anything I can do, let me know.
871. # [04:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/50c42773c923 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
872. # [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3d556206734e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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888. # [04:13] <Bas> RyanVM|afk: fwiw, it's still happily sitting there.
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890. # [04:13] <RyanVM|afk> heh
891. # [04:15] <RyanVM|afk> FINALLY
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898. # [04:19] <jesup> RyanVM|afk: no idea about that last one
899. # [04:20] <RyanVM|afk> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37970671&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
900. # [04:20] <RyanVM|afk> I probably shouldn't have wallpapered over that one so quickly either
901. # [04:20] <RyanVM|afk> same push at the crashtest
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903. # [04:21] <Bas> RyanVM|afk: What happened? My push is still hanging, should I try pushing it again.. or?
904. # [04:21] <RyanVM|afk> Bas: mine went through
905. # [04:21] <RyanVM|afk> dunno
906. # [04:21] <RyanVM|afk> Bas: I think your best bet is to just wait
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909. # [04:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bd03b3245bed - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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911. # [04:22] <Bas> Ok :)
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913. # [04:24] <jesup> RyanVM|afk: I assume that's after I landed the XPCOM NS_NewNamedThread fix
914. # [04:24] <RyanVM|afk> yes
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916. # [04:25] <jesup> Hmmm. E10S
917. # [04:25] <RyanVM|afk> eeejay: inbound orange
918. # [04:25] <RyanVM|afk> eeejay: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37971356&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
919. # [04:25] <jesup> I'll look later
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921. # [04:25] <RyanVM> jesup: yes, both were actually :)
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923. # [04:26] <jesup> RyanVM: is there a way to run the e10s tests via mach?
924. # [04:27] <jesup> gps: ^
925. # [04:27] <RyanVM> jesup: i believe so
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927. # [04:27] <RyanVM> billm would be the guy to ask
928. # [04:27] <jesup> afk for a while, will check back
929. # [04:27] <jesup> billm: ping ^
930. # [04:27] <@bz> hrm
931. # [04:28] <RyanVM> jesup: bingo
932. # [04:28] <RyanVM> --e10s
933. # [04:28] <RyanVM> jesup: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/mach_commands.py#482
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935. # [04:30] <RyanVM> Bas: definitely leave your push going - fubar is trying to run strace on it to see what's going on
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937. # [04:30] <RyanVM> Bas: from #it - 10:25:22 PM - fubar: there is something seriously whacked with bschouten's try push. still spinning it's wheels
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941. # [04:31] <Papo> Hi
942. # [04:31] <Bas> RyanVM: I won't touch the machine :)
943. # [04:31] <Papo> how can I utilize my local shared object (say...libusb) in firefox ? For example, if I want to create a function against this shared object.
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946. # [04:32] <Papo> I dont find any document for this. Does any of you have experience related to this?
947. # [04:32] <RyanVM> js-ctypes?
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950. # [04:33] <Papo> Ryan, thanks for your reply.
951. # [04:34] <Papo> I knew that i have to added something in gecko/toolkit/library/Makefiles.in
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955. # [04:35] <Papo> will this be related to any permission issue?
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964. # [04:41] <Papo> ??
965. # [04:41] <Papo> RyanVM ping
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970. # [04:44] <RyanVM> Papo: i have no clue
971. # [04:44] <Papo> thanks
972. # [04:45] <Papo> but js-ctypes is a good thing to know.
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977. # [04:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18224f0cc4dd - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 996821, bug 996268) for mochitest-a11y failures on a CLOSED TREE.
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1018. # [05:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7cc17a77b90e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1022. # [05:16] <firebot> Check-in:
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1024. # [05:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0423a8e32248 - Jared Wein - Bug 996121 - Bouncing unicorn easter egg (in hamburger menu) briefly triggers scrollbar each time it hits the bottom of its bounce area when the font-size is not 12px. r=mconley
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1029. # [05:21] <mattwoodrow> gps: ping
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1032. # [05:23] <@bz> man
1033. # [05:23] <@bz> tickets to SFO in May are _expensive_
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1037. # [05:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/36e61fd7ed89 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 995844: retrieve mozMobileConnection from 'workingFrame' in mobileconnect marionette tests. r=echen
1038. # [05:24] <@bz> like 2x what it normally is!
1039. # [05:25] <RyanVM> yeesh
1040. # [05:25] <@bz> at least if I want a nonstop
1041. # [05:25] <RyanVM> as if there are any othe roptions
1042. # [05:25] * RyanVM has flown through Phoenix before
1043. # [05:25] <RyanVM> never again
1044. # [05:25] <@bz> well
1045. # [05:25] <@bz> there are in fact nonstops boston -> SFO
1046. # [05:25] <@bz> and even a few to SJC
1047. # [05:26] * @bz is NOT going to fly through LAX
1048. # [05:26] <@bz> Just not
1049. # [05:26] <@bz> Partly, it's the sucky dates...
1050. # [05:26] <@bz> If I were flying a day later it would be way cheaper
1051. # [05:26] <@bz> anyway
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1053. # [05:27] <RyanVM> did I hear something about a platform workweek in october?
1054. # [05:28] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: looking forward to being able to corner people about their oranges in person?
1055. # [05:28] <mattwoodrow> :)
1056. # [05:29] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: you should know, I saw you at the summit!
1057. # [05:29] <mattwoodrow> I feel like I got away lightly that time
1058. # [05:29] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: hell, at the 2010 summit, I had bz and bholley debugging a problem on my laptop
1059. # [05:29] * RyanVM wonders if bz remembers that
1060. # [05:29] <@bz> Vaguely.
1061. # [05:30] <@bz> 2010 is a long time ago
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1063. # [05:30] <@bz> and summits are alway a blur... ;)
1064. # [05:30] <RyanVM> heh
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1066. # [05:30] <RyanVM> bz: it's a little different when you're the "starstruck" community member meeting everyone in person for the first time
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1069. # [05:32] <@bz> Oh, I believe it. ;)
1070. # [05:32] <@bz> No regrets yet?
1071. # [05:32] <RyanVM> not in the least
1072. # [05:32] <@bz> Good!
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1074. # [05:32] <RyanVM> he says as he's starring the tree at 11pm
1075. # [05:32] <@bz> heh
1076. # [05:33] * @bz is registering for this b2g shindig
1077. # [05:33] <@bz> let's see what sort of tickets the travel agents find
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1084. # [05:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f69f2fb11938 - Reuben Morais - Bug 994448 - Make test_contacts_blobs.html test the data that comes from the Contacts API. r=gwagner
1085. # [05:37] <reuben> argh. forgot TEST ONLY or whatever the incantation is
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1087. # [05:39] <RyanVM> huh?
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1091. # [05:41] <RyanVM> reuben: what were you trying to do?
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1093. # [05:43] <reuben> RyanVM: I think I just misremembered "a=test-only" as being some (invented by my imagination) feature that tell the builders to be smarter about my push
1094. # [05:43] <RyanVM> heh
1095. # [05:43] <RyanVM> that's for branch uplifts
1096. # [05:44] <RyanVM> when the push is only touching tests and doesn't need approval
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1098. # [05:45] <reuben> yeah, that makes sense
1099. # [05:45] <nigelb> Morning
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1102. # [05:47] <@njn> oh, tree's open
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1104. # [05:47] <@njn> that's nice
1105. # [05:47] <qDot> We can probably fix that.
1106. # [05:47] <RyanVM> njn: you know what you have to do
1107. # [05:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1cbde906d5d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 996430 - Remove FxAccountsUtils.jsm. r=ttaubert.
1108. # [05:49] <@njn> RyanVM: ^^^ ?
1109. # [05:49] <RyanVM> njn: oh, would you look at the time...
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1111. # [05:50] <nigelb> lol
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1138. # [06:10] <glandium> is there an event emitted when the context menu is opened?
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1160. # [06:31] <tbsaunde> glandium: is exporting js symbols from libxul in nightly builds intended or an accident?
1161. # [06:32] <glandium> tbsaunde: lots of them?
1162. # [06:32] <tbsaunde> glandium: yes
1163. # [06:32] <glandium> mmmmm
1164. # [06:33] <glandium> i /think/ it's not supposed to be the case
1165. # [06:33] <tbsaunde> glandium: and it looks like we're passing -DEXPORT_JS_API
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1168. # [06:35] <glandium> tbsaunde: that's not a problem. the problem is whether STATIC_JS_API is set or not
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1170. # [06:36] <glandium> tbsaunde: and that depends on --disable-shared-js and --disable-export-js
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1173. # [06:39] <tbsaunde> glandium: I'm not seeing STATIC_JS_API on the compile cmd line, so I guess --disable-export-js isn't the default
1174. # [06:39] <glandium> tbsaunde: STATIC_JS_API is AC_DEFINED
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1177. # [06:42] <glandium> tbsaunde: the log has --disable-shared-js --disable-export-js
1178. # [06:42] <tbsaunde> glandium: ah, yes I'm seeing it defined
1179. # [06:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bfdbce8d055 - Chris Peterson - Bug 997026 - Part 2: Fix clang -Wunused-const-variable warning in startupcache. r=froydnj
1180. # [06:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a3585a1b4a5 - Chris Peterson - Bug 997026 - Part 1: Fix clang -Wunused-const-variable warnings in xpcom. r=froydnj
1181. # [06:45] <glandium> tbsaunde: note, JSD_PUBLIC_API, JSD_PUBLIC_DATA, JSD_FRIEND_API and JSD_FRIEND_DATA *do* export symbols
1182. # [06:45] <glandium> but that should just be JSD_ symbols
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1184. # [06:47] <glandium> tbsaunde: ok, so JS_FRIEND_API is also always exported
1185. # [06:47] <tbsaunde> let me get my build back and I'll see exactly what is there
1186. # [06:48] <glandium> tbsaunde: the few symbols i looked at that are exported *are* JS_FRIEND_API
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1188. # [06:48] <glandium> tbsaunde: those are kept exported because cppunittests are tapping in there
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1191. # [06:53] <tbsaunde> glandium: ah, everything I saw might well have been friend api
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1196. # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1ed266256d3 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 996821 - Force semantic HTML elements to have accessible objects. r=surkov
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1204. # [07:06] <eeejay> just a quick question if i am missing something obvious:
1205. # [07:07] <eeejay> if i have a native thread, that seems to be cpu bound. i am noticing significant slowdown in the main thread
1206. # [07:07] <eeejay> on b2g
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1208. # [07:07] <eeejay> is there something about scheduling that i could do differently?
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1211. # [07:08] <fabrice> eeejay: you could lower your thread priority
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1215. # [07:11] <eeejay> fabrice, that is what i thought.. just need to find that. thanks!
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1218. # [07:12] <fabrice> eeejay: see PR_SetThreadPriority
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1222. # [07:17] <tbsaunde> or the prthreads thing it calls if this is actually a native thread
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1238. # [07:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce1fe33d58a0 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 1: Improve GetSurfaceSnapshot. r=roc
1239. # [07:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29ed3c34af5e - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 4: Remove the external canvas API. r=roc
1240. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20b75bf44c1e - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 2: Make SurfaceFromElement use GetSurfaceSnapshot instead of the external API. r=roc
1241. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39296ccf8936 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 3: Stop using the external Canvas API in nsBaseDragService. r=roc
1242. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ba917df6b41 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 6: Remove duplicate code for retreiving a snapshot from a canvas in CanvasRenderingContext2D. r=roc
1243. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8681fc7a918b - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 5: Remove nsICanvasRenderingContextInternal::Render. r=roc
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1261. # [07:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/dfed3ebb2544 - Robert Strong - Updated 7Zip sfx - Bug 396050 - [7zip] Unnecessary Button provided by the 7-Zip SEA (self extracting archive). r=bbondy
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1263. # [07:46] <heycam> is there a way I can make mach stop collapsing white space at the beginning of output lines
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1266. # [07:50] * heycam find the strip() call and removes it
1267. # [07:51] <mattwoodrow> heycam: land it!
1268. # [07:51] <heycam> mattwoodrow, I thought I found the right one, still trimming ws though
1269. # [07:51] * heycam keeps looking
1270. # [07:51] <heycam> also since when did we stop writing out mochitest.log
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1283. # [08:01] <heycam> oh, make -C objdir mochitest-plain also strips, so I guess it's not mach's fault
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1299. # [08:13] <@njn> SocialService.jsm and WorkerAPI.jsm are mutually recursive...
1300. # [08:13] <@njn> markh: ^^
1301. # [08:13] <@njn> well, I mean, they both import each other
1302. # [08:13] <@njn> mutually dependent
1303. # [08:13] * @njn wonders if they should be merged
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1306. # [08:15] <markh> njn: merging probably doesn't much sense, although we could probably break that cycle. What problems does it cause?
1307. # [08:16] <@njn> markh: no problem per se; I'm just looking for modules that can be lazy-loaded and/or merged
1308. # [08:16] <@njn> markh: and I have a rule of thumb which is that if two modules (in any language) depend on each other, they should be merged :)
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1310. # [08:17] <heycam> ah gotcha https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997598
1311. # [08:17] <markh> njn: in this specific case, we'd probably just add an .update() method on the provider and call that instead of importing
1312. # [08:17] <markh> but cyclic imports are certainly more common than would be ideal in general :)
1313. # [08:18] <poiru> njn: I have patches to Gecko-ify indentation in mfbt/. I was wondering if you could review them or should I request review from Waldo?
1314. # [08:18] <@njn> poiru: Waldo needs to review. Unfortunately, I have a patch in bug 983538 to completely fix the style of one file and he's ignored it for a month
1315. # [08:18] <Cork> if a regression depends on an extension, how should i file it in bugzilla?
1316. # [08:18] <markh> probably .updateManifest()
1317. # [08:19] <poiru> njn: Yeah, that's why I asked you :) But thanks, will ask Waldo.
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1319. # [08:20] <@njn> poiru: Waldo is the owner of MFBT, and it has no peers. This is not a good thing.
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1328. # [08:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
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1332. # [08:29] <poiru> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Morning. Do you know if the backout https://bugzil.la/946065#c80 fixed the issue? Seems like test_dataChannel_basicAudio.html has continued to fail even after bug 946065 was backed out.
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1334. # [08:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi poiru yeah this made the failure intermittent instead of perma fail
1335. # [08:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so it might still failing after the backout but not everytime again
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1342. # [08:36] <poiru> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Hmm, OK. Seems like I'll have to wait for that to be fixed if it is indeed test reordering that caused the perma-fail.
1343. # [08:37] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1399. # [09:08] <glandium> let me guess... a data: uri's document can't reference other files
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1401. # [09:09] <glandium> that's... quite annoying
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1552. # [10:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> sorry guys trees closed again, we are working on it
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1554. # [10:45] <glandium> hsivonen: why not just ifdef the internationalization-related dead code?
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1589. # [11:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fd7db91ca99a - Erik Vold - Bug 997561 - Uplift Add-on SDK to Firefox (CLOSED TREE) r=me
1590. # [11:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok trees are reopen now
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1602. # [11:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/735fb8486e8e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 996052 - Remove JSVAL_TRACE_KIND, JSVAL_IS_GCTHING and JSVAL_TO_GCTHING r=terrence
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1611. # [11:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/80fb95ebee38 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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1617. # [11:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7113f6dd5cdc - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 995912: Remove BLUEZ_DBUS_BASE_IFC from RawDBusConnection, r=qdot, echou
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1627. # [11:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bc0034c4496c - Shawn Huang - Bug 994411 - [bluedroid] Ignore pending MO call index, while making MO call with bluetooth headset, r=echou
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1629. # [11:40] <gfritzsche> hm, anyone have a clue what the actual build error is here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37945714&tree=Try&full=1
1630. # [11:41] <gfritzsche> the "cannot stat" parts?
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1637. # [11:47] <robuster> hello
1638. # [11:47] <mcsmurf> hi
1639. # [11:47] <robuster> i have a question about the nspr library
1640. # [11:48] <robuster> in firefox, when you visit a ssl page - the content transmitted in plain-text through PR_Write
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1642. # [11:48] <robuster> and after that i assume the encryption takes place, but in a TLS 1.2 enabled site the content transmitted through PR_Write is not in plaintext
1643. # [11:49] <robuster> where can i see what's actually going on?
1644. # [11:49] <robuster> i was looking through the doxygen of nspr lib but that drove me crazy
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1648. # [11:51] <mcsmurf> I don't think there are a lot of NSPR experts on IRC
1649. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> not sure how NSS works there..
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1651. # [11:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> karl: thanks missed that dupe
1652. # [11:53] <mcsmurf> the actual implementation of TLS 1.2 happened in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480514
1653. # [11:53] <gfritzsche> robuster: might be a good question for the nspr list? https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-nspr
1654. # [11:53] <mcsmurf> probably, yeah..
1655. # [11:53] <mcsmurf> or the NSS list
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1658. # [11:54] <gfritzsche> oh, or that :)
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1663. # [11:57] <shu> how do i run a mochitest under the VS debugger in windows?
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1666. # [11:57] <karl> Tomcat|sheriffduty: np, thanks for filing all these
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1669. # [11:59] <padenot> shu: ./mach mochitest-plain --no-autorun path/to/test.html
1670. # [11:59] <padenot> then attach vs debugger
1671. # [11:59] <padenot> and click the -> Run Test <- link at the top when its attached
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1675. # [12:00] <shu> padenot: cool, thanks
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1678. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> padenot, hmm, don't we support --debugger=...?
1679. # [12:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/13b8dd8c3715 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1680. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> Would probably be good to file that
1681. # [12:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f993036f78bb - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1683. # [12:03] <padenot> Ms2ger: maybe, but I don't know how to use that with msvc debugger
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1685. # [12:03] <h4writer> Tomcat|sheriffduty, ping (can I assume the B2G OS X Opt red is infrastructure failure? So should I be safe to push all this to inbound?)
1686. # [12:03] <h4writer> Tomcat|sheriffduty, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=842a290e7b00
1687. # [12:04] <padenot> since attaching to a program requires to click withe the mouse and all
1688. # [12:04] <padenot> maybe there is a way, I'm a very primitive windows user
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1691. # [12:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> h4writer: checking
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1696. # [12:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh checking compiler version... python2.7: can't open file '/builds/slave/try-osx64_g-000000000000000000/build/sccache/sccache.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory again
1697. # [12:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: ^ do you know what this is
1698. # [12:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> we had this also yesterday
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1701. # [12:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> h4writer: i think its something with the build system/slave or so i guess not related to your push
1702. # [12:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d53bccef7150 - Paul Adenot - Bug 997229 - Don't call IdealAudioRate on an offline MediaStreamGraph r=roc
1703. # [12:06] <h4writer> Tomcat|sheriffduty, ok, pushing :D
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1705. # [12:06] <h4writer> Tomcat|sheriffduty, thanks for looking
1706. # [12:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
1707. # [12:07] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty, h4writer: that's bug 996621. update your tree
1708. # [12:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah
1709. # [12:07] <h4writer> glandium, oh thanks. Well I will definitely need to update before pushing ;)
1710. # [12:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks glandium
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1714. # [12:10] <mattwoodrow> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I like how you apologise for backing people out when they cause bustage :)
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1716. # [12:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :) well i think its more teamwork and no one cause a bustage on purpose :)
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1718. # [12:14] <mattwoodrow> a very good point!
1719. # [12:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecb6a42d32ff - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 3: Stop using the external Canvas API in nsBaseDragService. r=roc
1720. # [12:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54ac1366823a - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 1: Improve GetSurfaceSnapshot. r=roc
1721. # [12:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e72c7a1d9d9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 2: Make SurfaceFromElement use GetSurfaceSnapshot instead of the external API. r=roc
1722. # [12:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abc11addc2d1 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 6: Remove duplicate code for retreiving a snapshot from a canvas in CanvasRenderingContext2D. r=roc
1723. # [12:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c609ffeef524 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 5: Remove nsICanvasRenderingContextInternal::Render. r=roc
1724. # [12:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d7b34276247 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 997014 - Part 4: Remove the external canvas API. r=roc
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1746. # [12:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9238eede0080 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 944701 - Tracelogging: Add shell functions to enable/disable tracelogging, r=till
1747. # [12:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e57c8c5c2ccd - Hannes Verschore - Bug 995675 - IonMonkey: Remove incorrect optimization of ToDouble, r=jandem
1748. # [12:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd09a43b2b21 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 995826 - IonMonkey: Fix bogus behaviour of the negative zero test on x86, r=bbouvier
1749. # [12:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ac1f53ee224 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 996518 - Add an extra assert in TypePolicy of MTypeBarrier, r=jandem
1750. # [12:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e07e0a07d0a5 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 995490 - Tracelogger: Don't assert for wrong textId on non-active items, r=till
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1765. # [12:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b032a90ee083 - Vincent Chen - Bug 983489 - Crash on nsIAppStartup.quit() - application crashed [@ mozilla::gl::GLContext::MakeCurrent(bool)]. r=nical
1766. # [12:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62e295f8483e - Nils Ohlmeier [:drno] - Bug 989936 - fire the onsignalingstatechanged event if close was called locally. r=jesup
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1779. # [12:50] <@ted> interesting
1780. # [12:50] <@ted> anyone here who would claim to know about CSP?
1781. # [12:51] <hsivonen> glandium: last time I asked people didn't like having #ifdefed c-c stuff in m-c
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1783. # [12:52] <hsivonen> glandium: also, almost all of it can be moved to c-c very nicely--only if someone figures out the jar paths and the unit tests
1784. # [12:52] <hsivonen> glandium: moving the C++ is really no big deal
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1788. # [12:55] <venky> hi
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1793. # [12:56] <venky> hi
1794. # [12:57] <mcsmurf> hi
1795. # [12:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi venky
1796. # [12:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> whimboo: all merges to and from m-c done
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1798. # [12:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> just need to run mcmerge now
1799. # [12:59] <whimboo> Tomcat|sheriffduty: 3>
1800. # [12:59] <venky> Iam facing problem in implementing FF add on can u plz help me
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1802. # [13:00] <mcsmurf> venky: maybe #introduction can help you, but it really depends what your problem is
1803. # [13:00] <mcsmurf> or #extdev
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1823. # [13:16] <glandium> hsivonen: then you could at least wait for the c-c/m-c merge thing to be decided, because if they do end up being merged, we'd lose precious history for those files
1824. # [13:17] <mcsmurf> oh no, not again :x
1825. # [13:17] <mcsmurf> " C:\mozilla-build\msys\bin\sh.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap (0x60210000 <0x2260000>) in child,"
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1827. # [13:17] <mcsmurf> I dunno why, but this seems to happen more or less often on my PC, the only solution is to reboot
1828. # [13:17] <mcsmurf> some website says it might have to do with virus scanning apps..
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1834. # [13:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mcsmurf: hm might be, i use cygwin on some testvm and security essentials and have never seen this message
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1836. # [13:21] <mcsmurf> very annoying for sure since reboot seems to be the only solution
1837. # [13:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1840. # [13:22] <Ms2ger> mcsmurf, the other solution is Unix ;)
1841. # [13:23] <mcsmurf> hm yeah I also have Linux installed on this box
1842. # [13:23] <mcsmurf> but I like the Windows UI better :o
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1847. # [13:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3d749ffa6003 - Henry Chang - Bug 993732 - Add test case. r=fabrice
1848. # [13:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1388fb71fc64 - Jocelyn Liu - Bug 993290 - Respond OK after receiving ATDxxx and improve readability on ProcessDialCall(). r=echou
1849. # [13:27] <@roc> hah, finally got "mach build" working in Eclipse so I get easy compile error navigation
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1855. # [13:31] <mcsmurf> interesting, some website says rebasing the msys dll should solve the problem (rebase.exe -b 0x50000000 msys-1.0.dll)
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1887. # [13:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d436936f881 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 997383 - Avoid using the base namespace since it causes problems in unified builds. r=nical
1888. # [13:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9963d292e66 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 995411 - Move various pieces of APZ code into gfx/layers/apz. r=jrmuizel,botond
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1893. # [14:00] * Gijs wonders who could do something useful with bug 997189
1894. # [14:00] <Gijs> (odd css positioning issue)
1895. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3dacd561f4b6 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 996019 - fix browser_bug435325.js to not connect to example.com; r=ehsan
1896. # [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6863631867ea - Nathan Froyd - Bug 995995 - set testing prefs to redirect to the test proxy server for RSS feeds; r=jmaher
1897. # [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0706e7e5b0fc - Nathan Froyd - Bug 997291 - remove write-only gInspectee variables from devtools server tests; r=jmaher
1898. # [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8efaa0f46d5 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 996031 - remove 455407.html crashtest; r=dholbert
1899. # [14:02] <Ms2ger> Gijs, dbaron / roc?
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1905. # [14:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28e35ed195ab - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset b032a90ee083 (bug 983489) for m-e10s test failures
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1907. # [14:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nical: hi sorry had to backout bug 983489, seems it causing crashes
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1912. # [14:10] <nical> No problem, I think it's just a missing null check
1913. # [14:11] <froydnj> hm, is there a bug for 10.8 jobs not starting on try/
1914. # [14:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: i will one now
1915. # [14:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pinged in releng already
1916. # [14:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aadc6d10a36b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Reftests for box-decoration-break. r=cam
1917. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28734b1d45d5 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Minor whitespace fixes. r=cam
1918. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff492cb2c882 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Add "skip sides" and border/frame size parameters to GetBorderRadii(). Add an inline convenience method for the old signature. r=cam
1919. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef9b2500f319 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Implement box-decoration-break layout for backgrounds. r=cam,jmuizelaar
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1921. # [14:12] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks!
1922. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/072817c3a101 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Implement box-decoration-break layout for border/box-shadow and paddding/margin for inlines. r=cam
1923. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ccf9662d8b6 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Remove remaining vestiges of -moz-background-inline-policy. r=cam
1924. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/518d271f541b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Change mode-lines and indentation to 2-space indent. r=cam
1925. # [14:12] * froydnj woke up this morning to find his 10.8 jobs not started from 12 hours ago :(
1926. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8576639616bb - Mats Palmgren - Bug 613659 - Implement box-decoration-break in the style system. r=cam
1927. # [14:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: filed now bug 997692 and will see that i find someone in #releng
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1930. # [14:16] <RyanVM> froydnj: only 3136 pending jobs across all trees
1931. # [14:16] * jmaher|afk is now known as jmaher
1932. # [14:16] * RyanVM glares at the people who run pointless jobs on try and/or don't cancel them when no longer needed
1933. # [14:17] <RyanVM> newsflash, if your patch only touches gonk code, you don't need a -p all -u all run!
1934. # [14:17] * kats|away is now known as kats
1935. # [14:17] <mcsmurf> -p all -u all -t all eh? ;)
1936. # [14:17] <mcsmurf> :)
1937. # [14:18] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: bustage, i forgot to touch the clobber file :(
1938. # [14:18] <RyanVM> mcsmurf: at least -t isn't usually enalbed by default :)
1939. # [14:18] <jmaher> RyanVM: maybe we could do a mud style game if you do that- navigate through the castle and you can run all tests
1940. # [14:18] <froydnj> RyanVM: so can we get patch-only-touches-gonk-code logic added to the job triggering for inbound, then?
1941. # [14:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh :)
1942. # [14:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kats: closing the tree and you can fix it ? :)
1943. # [14:18] <RyanVM> froydnj: we already do to some extent
1944. # [14:18] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok
1945. # [14:18] <RyanVM> froydnj: the issue here is more for try pushes, though
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1947. # [14:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kats: ok inbound is closed
1948. # [14:20] <froydnj> RyanVM: maybe we just need some super-intelligent job selector for try and disallow manual selection
1949. # [14:20] <froydnj> or perhaps the try syntax checker could notice time-wasting selections and complain
1950. # [14:20] <mcsmurf> or people just need to use their brain ;)
1951. # [14:20] <RyanVM> froydnj: patches welcome :P
1952. # [14:20] <mcsmurf> or someone needs to explain try to them :)
1953. # [14:20] <RyanVM> mcsmurf++
1954. # [14:21] <RyanVM> as Ron White once said....
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1956. # [14:21] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pushed
1957. # [14:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/953430fb3c69 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 995411 - Update clobber file to fix bustage. r=bustage on a CLOSED TREE
1958. # [14:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kats: cool thanks!
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1961. # [14:24] <jmaher> froydnj: RyanVM: actually it would be really really really^2 nice to have try do the core jobs needed, and if all went well, you could schedule a more complete run of tests/builds
1962. # [14:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok reopened inbound and canceld jobs
1963. # [14:25] <jmaher> ideally, you test on a platform other than your development environment- if m(1), r, x are green, then we do debug, and more platforms
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1979. # [14:32] <poiru> RyanVM: What about a "This build cost ~$N USD. Please read [some link explaining what options to choose] to save money and resources." when viewing individual try pushes.
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1981. # [14:32] <@roc> Why did my build suddenly start failing in toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/common/scoped_ptr.h with an error about unused typedefs?
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1984. # [14:34] <padenot> roc: because warning as errors
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1986. # [14:34] <@roc> yeah, but I don't know what changed here
1987. # [14:34] <@roc> I just did an update from inbound
1988. # [14:34] <padenot> no idea, but I had to disable warning as error locally yesterday for the same reason
1989. # [14:35] <padenot> no compiler upgrade or anything, as far as I know
1990. # [14:35] <poiru> RyanVM: (I bet many don't know how much a -p all -u all push actually costs. I think people would be more cautious if they knew that they are wasting money.)
1991. # [14:35] <RyanVM> poiru: maybe
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1993. # [14:35] <padenot> maybe someone put -Wunused-typedef in the warning as error list or something
1994. # [14:35] <RyanVM> I think the more "in the cloud" we get, the more reasonably we can estimate that
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1997. # [14:37] <@roc> I think it's because 938157 only just landed
1998. # [14:37] <padenot> it also broke in lul yesterday for me
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2000. # [14:37] <padenot> ha yes
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2025. # [14:58] * froydnj notices build times creeps back up above 10m
2026. # [15:00] <@ted> bah
2027. # [15:00] <@ted> stop adding code
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2033. # [15:02] <KaiRo> ted: yes, we need to stop the web from supporting more and more stuff and become a full platform by itself - just because of our build times! :p
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2035. # [15:03] <RyanVM> ted: but VR support!
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2037. # [15:03] <KaiRo> where are the nice old times where the full Mozilla suite was way smaller than just Firefox nowadays? :p
2038. # [15:03] <@ted> hah
2039. # [15:03] <hsivonen> glandium: I get a feeling that waiting for X before I get to remove code from m-c is a trap at this point.
2040. # [15:04] <hsivonen> glandium: we'll get the history back if we eventually migrate to git, right?
2041. # [15:04] <@ted> i wonder if we have enough info in moz.build to spit out a script that just compiles all the C++ and links it
2042. # [15:04] <hsivonen> (as I understand it, git autodiscovers moves)
2043. # [15:04] <@ted> so we could benchmark just compile+link time without build system overhead
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2047. # [15:05] <hsivonen> glandium: for this stuff, the history is pretty much in CVS anyway
2048. # [15:05] <hsivonen> 1998 code
2049. # [15:05] * KaiRo ensures he's still listed as c-c- build system owner and then says "the build system sucks"
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2058. # [15:09] <hsivonen> glandium: also, I'd be unhappy if c-c actually merged to m-c right now and rotted all my patches
2059. # [15:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e73e1719edcb - Sebastian Hengst - Bug 997625 - Sync panel: Checkbox for syncing passwords enabled (not disabled) while sync credentials need reauth r=ttaubert
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2061. # [15:13] <Yoric> bsmedberg: ping
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2063. # [15:13] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: pong
2064. # [15:13] <Yoric> Hi.
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2066. # [15:14] <Yoric> I wanted to inform you that I'm attempting to move forward with the AsyncShutdown stuff.
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2068. # [15:14] <@smaug> KaiRo: build times? build times are good these days
2069. # [15:14] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: I'm not sure what that means ;-)
2070. # [15:14] <@smaug> I'm happy with 13min clobber debug builds on a laptop
2071. # [15:14] <Yoric> I have an experimental patch that introduces a purely async subset of AsyncShutdown (one that doesn't spin a nested event loop) designed to express dependencies directly between services.
2072. # [15:15] <@ted> things have certainly improved
2073. # [15:15] <Yoric> This is a reworked version of the "async observer" mechanism we discussed one year ago.
2074. # [15:15] <@ted> froydnj was just grumbling about build times slowly creeping back up
2075. # [15:15] <Yoric> bsmedberg: So if you are interested, that's part of bug 985655.
2076. # [15:15] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: is there a reason we still export the xpt reading function from libxul? that your aware of
2077. # [15:15] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Purely JS for the moment, but if this works out nicely, I'd like to implement a C++ version one of these quarters.
2078. # [15:16] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: I worry when I hear the word "express dependencies". But ok
2079. # [15:16] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: probably not, it probably dates back to libxpt using different macros when shaver wrote it in 2000
2080. # [15:16] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Well, at the moment, we have shutdown stages that are implicit dependencies.
2081. # [15:16] <Yoric> bsmedberg: I prefer explicit dependencies.
2082. # [15:16] <Yoric> (whenever possible)
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2084. # [15:17] * @smaug thinks when he started at moco build time was ~30mins
2085. # [15:17] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: I partly agree, although I believe that in general we'd be better off expressing most of these as explicit shutdown ordering
2086. # [15:17] <@bsmedberg> rather than building a generic dependency system
2087. # [15:17] <@smaug> with a not-so-slow desktop machine
2088. # [15:18] <KaiRo> smaug: but froydnj noticed above that they crept up over 10m again! :p
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2091. # [15:18] <Yoric> bsmedberg: What would that look like for things such as Sqlite.jsm?
2092. # [15:19] <KaiRo> my first Mozilla builds surely didn't complete in under an hour, but I had an old machine
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2094. # [15:19] <Yoric> The specific problem I am trying to solve atm is that of clients that need to write sqlite data during shutdown and don't want to keep a connection open before shutdown, to avoid hoarding resources.
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2097. # [15:20] <Yoric> So they need to open and close their connection during shutdown, but before Sqlite.jsm goes down.
2098. # [15:20] <Yoric> Of course, they use only async APIs.
2099. # [15:20] <RyanVM> WTF, why is Video/Audio not in here? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Core
2100. # [15:20] * RyanVM is trying to find a list of peers for that module
2101. # [15:20] <froydnj> because we're bad about updating that list
2102. # [15:20] <KaiRo> and my dad always told the stories from his first IT-related jobs where the programmers would code a whole day long and start the compile job at the end of the work day to see if it completed when they came in the next day, as it often took multiple hours or even the whole night
2103. # [15:20] <RyanVM> froydnj: kinda of a big-ass hole....
2104. # [15:21] <KaiRo> so an hour or two of compiling didn't seem that long :)
2105. # [15:21] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: can we just tell each client to shut down individually in the profile-shutdown part of the sequence
2106. # [15:21] <Yoric> KaiRo: Reminds me of my previous job.
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2108. # [15:21] <KaiRo> Yoric: hehe
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2110. # [15:21] <@smaug> at nokia a script sent me an sms when build was ready
2111. # [15:22] <@ted> smaug: nice dogfooding :)
2112. # [15:22] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Well, Sqlite.jsm itself shuts down during profile-before-shutdown. So they need to be squeezed between the start of profile-before-shutdown and the shutdown of Sqlite.jsm.
2113. # [15:22] <Yoric> bsmedberg: ... all of this with async operations.
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2115. # [15:22] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: we can change that, if we make it explicit
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2117. # [15:23] <@bsmedberg> we ask each thing to shut down in turn, wait for all of them at some point, and then tell sqlite.jsm to kill off everything that's left (and probably assert)
2118. # [15:23] <KaiRo> Yoric: he has some fun stories of mishaps with that over-night-compiling, from dumb syntax errors stopping the multi-hour compiling process to someone swapping the disks inadvertently while such jobs were running
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2121. # [15:24] <Yoric> KaiRo: Well, the disk swapping didn't take place during my previous job. But that still sounds familiar.
2122. # [15:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5aa4eed6cd16 - Vincent Chen - Bug 981477 - Re-enable globally-disabled reftests on B2G that actually pass. r=ahal
2123. # [15:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76e1244494ef - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 997208 - Remove unnecessary nullptr checks before deleting in content/media. r=cajbir
2124. # [15:24] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: I gotta run, I'll be back in 90 minutes or so
2125. # [15:24] <Yoric> ok
2126. # [15:24] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Well, it's kind of what I'm doing.
2127. # [15:25] <KaiRo> Yoric: yes, that was a very curious system of swappable hard disks they had back then - those disks didn't even run in airtight cases yet
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2130. # [15:25] <KaiRo> and they were huge
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2152. # [15:36] <kats> mats: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38009462&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2155. # [15:36] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ^
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2163. # [15:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah retriggerd
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2167. # [15:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh
2168. # [15:39] <kats> is that an intermittent? looks related to his push
2169. # [15:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
2170. # [15:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> just saw it
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2173. # [15:42] <kats> dunno what kind of magic we do on b2g desktop windows but i'm guessing some symbol needs to be added to some file somewhere
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2175. # [15:43] <kats> or nsIFrame::GetBorderRadii impl needs to be pushed into the .cpp
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2184. # [15:45] <mats> we might need #include nsIFrame.h somwhere - that unified builds hides on other platforms?
2185. # [15:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mats: hm so we need to back this change out right ?
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2187. # [15:46] <mats> or just add that #include :-)
2188. # [15:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mats: yeah feel free to fix :)
2189. # [15:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thats also ok
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2198. # [15:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/57bc0a610103 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 989137 - Part 17: Add browser chrome testing of Experiments. r=unfocused,gfritzsche
2199. # [15:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/27e2a7c2086e - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 989137 - Part 14: Rename functions for associating with Add-on Manager. r=gfritzsche
2200. # [15:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/36bc9e63aba7 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 989137 - Part 18: Fix experiments uninit behavior. r=bsmedberg
2201. # [15:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1648035f5d7b - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 989137 - Part 15: Return a promise from Experiments.init(). r=gfritzsche
2202. # [15:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b960c2026325 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 989137 - Backout re-ordered patches that conflict with a known-good patch stack: 1ab6bbd62c76, 5c3a195a107e, 73da7e611e92, 2c1a0b0551fb. r=me
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2205. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/71fe0bf5ef84 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 989137 - Part 16: Convert browser_experiments.js to add_task. r=unfocused
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2212. # [15:53] <mats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: nsDisplayListInvalidation.cpp uses GetBorderRadii but doesn't #include nsIFrame.h ...
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2215. # [15:53] <mats> this should fix it I think: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8408230
2216. # [15:53] <Ms2ger> Who would have thought we'd break non-unified builds
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2219. # [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mats: cool
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2222. # [15:57] <kamathln> when so much is possible today with just css3, why does firefox still depend on gtk like stuff? Can't it make it's own widgets using box-model, styling and javascript??
2223. # [15:57] <@ted> we do
2224. # [15:58] <@ted> but we use system libraries to match the system theme
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2227. # [15:58] <kamathln> ah!
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2229. # [15:59] <kamathln> is there an option to turn it off and use firefox's own theme?
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2231. # [15:59] <@ted> i don't recall
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2235. # [15:59] <@ted> i think there's fallback theme drawing, but i don't know how well-supported it is
2236. # [16:00] <@ted> or if it even works at all anymore
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2238. # [16:00] <kamathln> ted: thanks anyways. . my idea is to avoid installing user-css, etc.
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2264. # [16:16] <Ms2ger> I'm surprised.
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2287. # [16:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1fe88ef8ce75 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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2291. # [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/df4f53346f73 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 992968. r=efaust, a=sledru
2292. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/85e9ba2c9371 - Tim Taubert - Bug 947570 - Disable browser_597071.js until rewritten for Marionette. r=smacleod, a=test-only
2293. # [16:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bd52a0b3dc58 - Mike Connor - Bug 997179 - Bing is not present in default search engines. r=mfinkle, a=sledru
2294. # [16:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5f78c1ba85e3 - Tim Taubert - Bug 824021 - Don't clear set of windows to resurrect on write when receiving messages. r=yoric, a=test-only
2295. # [16:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ddbb75065940 - Patrick Brosset - Bug 993190 - Use the outline highlighter on fennec. r=miker, a=sledru
2296. # [16:29] <ttaubert> *cough*
2297. # [16:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3051963e5ec3 - Olli Pettay - Bug 957666 - Send back a huge retry reconnection time in delayedServerEvents.sjs. r=ehsan, a=test-only
2298. # [16:29] <RealRaven> how do IO force an Ok or Close button when I open a prefwindow on Mac?
2299. # [16:29] <ttaubert> RyanVM: so.. um. https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5f78c1ba85e3 is not test-only
2300. # [16:30] <RyanVM> ttaubert: oh FML
2301. # [16:30] <RealRaven> A user reports the prefwindow doesn't show any dialog buttons (except extra1)
2302. # [16:30] <RealRaven> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=25750
2303. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> ttaubert, ssh ;)
2304. # [16:30] <ttaubert> heh
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2306. # [16:30] <ttaubert> I don't mind uplifting that change though
2307. # [16:31] <RealRaven> any ideas, is it possible to [ass this as a windowfeatures argument>
2308. # [16:31] <RealRaven> *pass
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2313. # [16:33] <RealRaven> the window has no close buttons either as it is opened as dialog
2314. # [16:33] <RealRaven> I mean no system menu on top
2315. # [16:34] <RealRaven> window.openDialog('chrome://quickpasswords/content/quickpassword_options.xul',
2316. # [16:34] <RealRaven> 'quickpasswords-passwords','dialog,chrome,titlebar,centerscreen,modal,resizable', params)
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2318. # [16:34] <RealRaven> The bug is here with a Mac screenshot: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=25750
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2320. # [16:35] <Gijs> RealRaven: pref windows on mac apply instantly.
2321. # [16:35] <Gijs> it's meant not to have buttons.
2322. # [16:36] <RealRaven> Ok, so even if I do instantApply = false?
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2329. # [16:37] <RealRaven> BUt how do they close this window: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=7839
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2331. # [16:37] <RealRaven> there is no system menu at the top... nothing to close it
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2333. # [16:37] <RealRaven> in spite of me calling it with titlebar it doesn't have one
2334. # [16:38] <RealRaven> (note that the screenshot shows is in front of another window which it was called from )]
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2336. # [16:38] <RealRaven> is it possible to close it using ESC or Enter on Mac?
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2344. # [16:41] <RealRaven> Gijs: ^ ^ ^ all of the above
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2346. # [16:42] <Gijs> ugh @ mozdev for not allowing me to see that image directly
2347. # [16:42] <ttaubert> Sylvestre: ping
2348. # [16:42] <RealRaven> Gijs: I know its bad
2349. # [16:42] <Gijs> RealRaven: I don't know?
2350. # [16:43] <RealRaven> Gijs: Ok :S Hard for me to reproduce as there is no Mac VM to test it
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2353. # [16:44] <RealRaven> so it should ahve the 2 or 3 colored buttons at the top as well as a titlebar?> Maybe it doesn't like the fact that I defined it as resizable as well..
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2359. # [16:48] <jesup> bsmedberg: So the fix for NewNamedThread (which is good) didn't solve my personal bug, which (now) is that the out param isn't set when the event runs. I have a patch up for review to you, and also added a test that suicidal initial events work to cppunittests. I also fixed the "leak a thread every time you use a CryptoTask" bug(!) in bug 988881, up for review. Thanks again
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2362. # [16:49] <@bsmedberg> jesup: yeah, I saw some traffic on the bug, haven't looked yet
2363. # [16:49] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I think the answer there is not to use the "initial event" feature in this case
2364. # [16:49] <jesup> That's what I did
2365. # [16:49] <@bsmedberg> cool, we're on the same page
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2367. # [16:49] <jesup> Though I could have gotten the current thread within Run() (and do that in the test I added)
2368. # [16:50] <jesup> CryptoAPI was leaking a thread for every call(!)
2369. # [16:50] <sheppy> Hey all, the docs for Dehydra say it's no longer maintained and should probably not be used. Should I archive this documentation?
2370. # [16:50] <jesup> For every SignedJar validation
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2385. # [16:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/993c3b5ff459 - Malini Das - Bug 993478 - Let a user select docroot for the webserver, r=jgriffin
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2394. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/800df0af4251 - Patrick McManus - bug 993591 - PSM HTTP Fetch should own streamloader data r=dkeller r=mayhemmer
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2407. # [17:04] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: failure son b2g on inbound
2408. # [17:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1fcb8d46d022 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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2412. # [17:05] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: why do we think this is mine?
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2414. # [17:06] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: looks like Mats' to me
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2418. # [17:06] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: rev 21043f348d65 ?
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2420. # [17:07] <mats> edmorley|sheriffduty: no it's the earlier set of changes...
2421. # [17:07] <RyanVM> mats: still busted on your follow-up it appears
2422. # [17:07] <mats> yep
2423. # [17:07] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: tomcat had starred them so they weren't in only-unstarred view... and well the checkin-neededs are the usual source of breakage :-)
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2428. # [17:08] <edmorley|sheriffduty> currently fighting with Vagrant/puppet to try and get them to play nicely with a newer base image for the TBPL vagrantfile
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2430. # [17:10] <mats> preparing a backout...
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2435. # [17:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f6c842e8180 - Mats Palmgren - merge backout
2436. # [17:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70862f5149c6 - Mats Palmgren - Back out bug 613659 for build failure on B2G Windows.
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2462. # [17:23] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mats: thank you :-)
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2468. # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7340e1b5c7e1 - Terrence Cole - Bug 990336 - Backout non-lazy dedup-on-insertion: not actually a speedup; r=jonco
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2475. # [17:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5ac2c9d8212 - Mike Shal - Bug 996307 - enable sccache for B2G Desktop Linux builds; r=glandium
2476. # [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cfb2db23c77 - Mike Shal - Bug 996791 - remove old b2g releng manifests; r=rail
2477. # [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0aa1d05d7cf - Mike Shal - Bug 995762 - don't evaluate diff unless it's needed; r=gps
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2480. # [17:30] <josh> bsmedberg: can we return immediately from GeckoChildProcessHost::CacheGreDir if sGreDirCached is true?
2481. # [17:30] <@bsmedberg> I don't remember
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2484. # [17:31] <josh> Right now we don’t, which isn’t what I’d expect. The only reason I can think of not to do that is if the cached value might possible change in the future and need to be re-fetched.
2485. # [17:31] <Gijs> bz++ for reminding me that CSS layout is sometimes... interesting. ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997189#c8 ) :)
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2487. # [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5a9d701731a1 - Dave Townsend - Bug 993029: Add a way for the add-on manager to pass add-on globals to the debug actors. r=panos, r=Unfocused
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2499. # [17:38] <josh> bsmedberg: ^ Do you know if the GRE dir can possibly change, and thus that value might need to be updated?
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2501. # [17:38] <@bsmedberg> it cannot change
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2525. # [17:39] <gcp> there we go again
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2529. # [17:40] <mjrosenb> I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure some of those people aren't spammers.
2530. # [17:40] <KaiRo> whoa
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2532. # [17:40] <mjrosenb> I never did trust jorendorff though :-p
2533. # [17:41] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: the inevitable happened with 5aa4eed6cd16 (bug 981477), backing it out
2534. # [17:41] <@gavin> I fixed it
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2537. # [17:42] <KaiRo> that's what you get for using irccloud
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2542. # [17:43] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: lmao
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2545. # [17:44] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: hrm, unexpected pass
2546. # [17:44] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: so far, they're all passes
2547. # [17:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cdd83fb7046 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 5aa4eed6cd16 (bug 981477) for B2G reftest failures
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2552. # [17:46] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: shame that comment 1 in the bug appeared to fall on deaf ears
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2557. # [17:48] <@ehsan> do we have a sane way of retriggering tests that does not require me to keep clicking on the + button in TBPL?
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2560. # [17:48] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: yeah
2561. # [17:49] <RyanVM> ehsan: self-serve + TabSubmit extension is how the pros do it ;)
2562. # [17:49] <@ehsan> RyanVM: say more!
2563. # [17:49] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: there was also a bookmarklet knocking around, I'll look in my thunderbird archive
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2565. # [17:49] <@ehsan> ty
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2569. # [17:50] <RyanVM> ehsan: TabSubmit lets you Ctrl+Click buttons to open in a new tab
2570. # [17:50] <RyanVM> makes retriggers on self-serve way easier
2571. # [17:50] <@ehsan> aha!
2572. # [17:50] <@ehsan> thanks
2573. # [17:51] <@ehsan> catlee: can we fix the self-serve API to accept a retrigger count argument?
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2575. # [17:51] <@ehsan> catlee: that would have probably saved a week of my life at this point :)
2576. # [17:51] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: ah http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/157514
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2581. # [17:52] <catlee> ehsan: which?
2582. # [17:52] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: ahh greasemonkey... thanks, but no thanks :/
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2585. # [17:52] <@ehsan> catlee: you know how self-serve lets you retrigger one job once?
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2587. # [17:52] <@ehsan> if you're hunting down an intermittent orange and want to retrigger something 100 times, you need to click 100 times today
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2590. # [17:53] <mjrosenb> Memory usage building Firefox with debug enabled was reduced from 15GB to 3.5GB; link time from 1700 seconds to 350 seconds.
2591. # [17:53] <mjrosenb> from http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/changes.html
2592. # [17:53] <@ehsan> can we add a retry count argument to that API to make it retry N times as opposed to once?
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2594. # [17:53] <mjrosenb> hot *shit*, when can we switch over to gcc-4.9/
2595. # [17:53] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: there are a few open bugs in https://bugzil.la/keywords:buildapi
2596. # [17:53] <froydnj> mjrosenb: that's for LTO, which we don't do
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2598. # [17:53] <mjrosenb> froydnj: quiet you :-p
2599. # [17:54] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: open bugs has never saved anyone ;)
2600. # [17:54] <froydnj> jus' saying
2601. # [17:54] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: bug 995665
2602. # [17:54] <mjrosenb> froydnj: while we aren't doing it now, the improvements in 4.9 make it something that is well within the realm of reason.
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2604. # [17:54] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: I mean as a starting point for a needinfo
2605. # [17:54] <froydnj> mjrosenb: indeed
2606. # [17:54] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: ah ok :)
2607. # [17:55] <edmorley|sheriffduty> eg Bug 630633 - Option to rebuild N times with self-serve, or Bug 625168 - we should be able to retrigger multiple jobs
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2609. # [17:55] <@ehsan> the former is what I want :)
2610. # [17:55] <@ehsan> thanks
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2612. # [17:55] <edmorley|sheriffduty> np
2613. # [17:55] <@ehsan> catlee: can I bribe someone to fix that please? :)
2614. # [17:56] <edmorley|sheriffduty> it's something that would svae me time too fwiw
2615. # [17:56] <@ehsan> catlee: or can you tell me how to fix it if it's easy?
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2619. # [17:58] <catlee> ehsan: depends what the bribe is :)
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2627. # [17:59] <@ehsan> catlee: a bottle of your favorite drink?
2628. # [17:59] <catlee> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildapi/file/7b75f9e93580/buildapi/controllers/selfserve.py#l372 (and the method below) need to look for a 'n_retries' parameter
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2630. # [17:59] <gaston> lsblakk: is 990154 on your approval-aurora radar ? so that i land it with 980891...
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2633. # [17:59] <catlee> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildapi/file/7b75f9e93580/buildapi/scripts/selfserve-agent.py#l289 needs to act on it
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2639. # [18:00] <@ehsan> catlee: how does one test this stuff locally?
2640. # [18:00] <catlee> and then probably some UI changes unless you like hitting the API directly
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2643. # [18:00] <@ehsan> where's the UI?
2644. # [18:00] <@ehsan> (the UI changes are really what I'm interested in :)
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2646. # [18:01] <catlee> ehsan: zeller has been working on docker images for doing local work
2647. # [18:01] <catlee> not sure how far he's gotten
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2650. # [18:01] * catlee checks his block
2651. # [18:01] <catlee> blog
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2653. # [18:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ee7dd06327f - Daniel Holbert - Bug 997306: Use size_t loop iterators in TestGCPostBarriers.cpp to fix signed/unsigned comparison build warnings. r=jonco
2654. # [18:02] <catlee> UI is here - http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildapi/file/7b75f9e93580/buildapi/templates/self-serve/branch.mako#l102
2655. # [18:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/24f0325371be - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
2656. # [18:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f08f293ebbfe - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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2658. # [18:03] <@ehsan> catlee: thanks, I'll quote you in the bug
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2661. # [18:04] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: y u so awesome?
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2676. # [18:07] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
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2692. # [18:11] <froydnj> ehsan: I think it's a british thing, the rest of us are doomed to inferiority
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2695. # [18:11] <@ehsan> froydnj: that does explain things!
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2711. # [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/111a943b2c7a - Botond Ballo - Bug 997287 - Access AsyncPanZoomController::mGeckoContentController safely. r=kats
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2722. # [18:19] <evilpie> ah interesting, I wonder why I got really banned
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2730. # [18:20] <lsblakk> gaston: yes, let me get that
2731. # [18:20] * lsblakk got into meetings mid-approvals
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2733. # [18:20] <RyanVM> lsblakk: good, because I'm hoping to get the aurora devtools split into production today
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2735. # [18:20] <RyanVM> and EPIC PATCH SET needs some approvals to make that happen :)
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2737. # [18:21] <froydnj> approve ALL the patches!
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2742. # [18:21] <RyanVM> YES
2743. # [18:22] <lsblakk> right, i saw some of that epicness :)
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2746. # [18:22] <RyanVM> lsblakk: amazingly, it's even running green on try :D
2747. # [18:23] <lsblakk> ^5 to all
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2750. # [18:23] <greatwarrior> mak: hello
2751. # [18:23] <mak> greatwarrior: hi
2752. # [18:24] <greatwarrior> mak: In bug 552025, is there anything left ?
2753. # [18:24] <mak> greatwarrior: nope, it was quite trivial
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2755. # [18:24] <greatwarrior> mak: ok then I will apply for checkin.
2756. # [18:24] <mak> greatwarrior: when we filed the bug probably there was more, and in the next years it reduced to those few lines
2757. # [18:25] <mak> greatwarrior: sure, thanks
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2759. # [18:25] <greatwarrior> mak: looking forward to work with you again :)
2760. # [18:25] <mak> greatwarrior: that'd be awesome, keep up with it
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2764. # [18:26] <greatwarrior> mak: thank you. Let me know, if you are mentoring any unassigned bug.
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2777. # [18:32] <lsblakk> RyanVM: ok i think i got everything i can - just FYI, any aurora uplift approvals in Firefox OS product are now triaged separately by preeti and bajaj
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2779. # [18:32] <lsblakk> as i would just be rubber stamping them
2780. # [18:32] <RyanVM> lsblakk: ok
2781. # [18:32] <lsblakk> having zero context
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2784. # [18:32] <RyanVM> lsblakk: thanks much :)
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2786. # [18:32] <RyanVM> gaston: might not get yours today (have a big patch queue in need of landing), but I'll for sure get it soon :)
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2808. # [18:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abda9ad7e889 - Ralph Giles - Bug 995289 - Use fmod to wrap custom waveform phase. r=padenot
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2812. # [18:43] <shu> bent: ping
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2814. # [18:43] <bent> shu, howdy
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2816. # [18:43] <shu> bent: hey, got a minute to teach me some windows debugging stuff?
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2819. # [18:44] <bent> shu, maybe! i'm in the office today if you want to stop by?
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2821. # [18:44] <shu> bent: okay i won't be in a for a bit, but is there anything special i need to do after attaching to a process in VS to get symbols right?
2822. # [18:44] <bent> oh,
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2825. # [18:45] <bent> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_the_Mozilla_symbol_server has all the deets
2826. # [18:45] <shu> bent: i attached a process, it seems to pause in the right places, but when i try to watch local variables it either doesn't work or gives me garbage
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2828. # [18:45] <shu> bent: this is a local build, not a nightly
2829. # [18:45] <bent> ok, so a few things,
2830. # [18:45] <bent> a) you need the windows symbols
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2835. # [18:46] <bent> b) sometimes locals get optimized out
2836. # [18:46] <bent> but this is a debug build?
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2839. # [18:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9e163c842e3b - Wes Johnston - Bug 997406 - Take into account padding when deciding whether to show Share icon. r=liuche
2840. # [18:46] <shu> bent: yeah, this is --enable-debug, unless there's a separate flag for debug symbols
2841. # [18:47] <bent> well, there is, but i think it's implied by --enable-debug
2842. # [18:47] <bent> i always have --enable-debug-symbols in my mozconfig even if i build opt
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2844. # [18:47] <froydnj> it might not be implied on windows
2845. # [18:47] <bent> but are your windows symbols loaded properly?
2846. # [18:47] <bent> that's step 1 imo
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2848. # [18:48] <shu> bent: i don't know :)
2849. # [18:48] <bent> froydnj, /me would... be... sad...
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2851. # [18:48] <shu> bent: should i use the symbol server even for builds i've built myself?
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2854. # [18:49] <bent> iirc stack unwinds that go through system libs are wrong unless you have the MS symbols loaded correctly
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2857. # [18:50] <bent> shu, in your stacks do the function names/line numbers look right?
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2861. # [18:50] <bent> if so i guess you have some debug symbols
2862. # [18:51] <shu> bent: they do, but almost no locals work
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2864. # [18:51] <shu> bent: and i find it hard to believe that msvc optimized everything away
2865. # [18:51] <bent> ok, so i wonder if the default is to enable optimizations even if you specify debug
2866. # [18:52] <bent> normally msvc won't show you garbage, it will just not offer to show you variables that are optimized out
2867. # [18:52] <shu> bent: well the default is for sure not --disable-optimize
2868. # [18:52] <bent> so sounds like you probably have a --enable-optimize --enable-debug
2869. # [18:52] <bent> which mostly just means #define DEBUG
2870. # [18:52] <shu> bent: what confuses me is that it displays a local as "local x is undefined"
2871. # [18:52] <shu> bent: ah
2872. # [18:53] <shu> bent: i've had some limited success debugging debug opt builds on linux
2873. # [18:53] <shu> bent: perhaps this won't work so well on windows, let me rebuild and see
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2875. # [18:53] <bent> i think debugging opt builds is a last resort for any kind of problem ;)
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2877. # [18:53] <bent> just do --enable-debug --disable-optimize --enable-debug-symbols
2878. # [18:53] <shu> bent: also does clobber remove the VS backend
2879. # [18:54] <bent> sadly yes
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2881. # [18:54] <shu> so... what do you do when you need to clobber?
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2884. # [18:54] <bent> you can move the obj/msvc dir somewhere temporary
2885. # [18:54] <bent> and move it back after
2886. # [18:54] <shu> ah
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2888. # [18:54] <bent> but your #defines might be wrong
2889. # [18:54] <shu> sadness
2890. # [18:54] <bent> yeah, definitely not perfect yet
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2894. # [18:55] <kgrandon> Any change with APIs and the way that they are exposed now? We set some preferences in gaia to expose APIs in Firefox Nightly, and a few have stopped working.
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2896. # [18:55] <shu> bent: thanks for your help!
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2898. # [18:55] <kgrandon> Namely mozSettings and mozApps...
2899. # [18:55] <bent> shu, sure, come find me later too
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2904. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3b65e1a1c52a - Ralph Giles - Bug 995289 - Use fmod to wrap custom waveform phase. r=padenot a=sledru
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2936. # [19:07] <@bsmedberg> does anyone here remember what Firefox version is equivalent to "fixed 1.8.1"?
2937. # [19:07] <bz> jwwang++
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2940. # [19:07] <bz> bsmedberg: 2.0
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2943. # [19:08] <bz> bsmedberg: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Gecko/Versions fwiw
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2947. # [19:08] <@bsmedberg> bz: great, thanks. Helps with https://etherpad.mozilla.org/historyofapp-update-url
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2953. # [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f854b5d978b5 - David Keeler - bug 997843 - mozilla::pkix::der::Input::Expect should take a uint16_t as its length argument r=briansmith
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2963. # [19:14] <bz> bsmedberg: Makes sense
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2997. # [19:28] <gaston> lsblakk: RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok thanks (re aurora patches :)
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2999. # [19:29] <gaston> and i might have a candidate fix for beta on powerpc...
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3005. # [19:30] <froydnj> gaston++
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3008. # [19:31] <bz> froydnj: so yeah, threads...
3009. # [19:31] <froydnj> bz: api documentation! :p
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3011. # [19:31] <bz> froydnj: we have that!
3012. # [19:31] <gaston> firefox(13862) in free(): error: bogus pointer (double free?) 0xffffff82
3013. # [19:31] <gaston> argl.
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3015. # [19:31] <gaston> fscking xpcom hell
3016. # [19:32] <bz> 51 * By default a timer will fire on the thread that created it. Set the .target
3017. # [19:32] <bz> 52 * attribute to fire on a different thread. Once you have set a timer's .target
3018. # [19:32] <bz> 53 * and called one of its init functions, any further interactions with the timer
3019. # [19:32] <bz> 54 * (calling cancel(), changing member fields, etc) should only be done by the
3020. # [19:32] <bz> 55 * target thread, or races may occur with bad results like timers firing after
3021. # [19:32] <bz> 56 * they've been canceled, and/or not firing after re-initiatization.
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3023. # [19:32] <bz> That last is _exactly_ what happene here
3024. # [19:32] <froydnj> yup
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3026. # [19:32] <bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7f12defc10b0 fwiw
3027. # [19:32] <bz> which I expect to die a grisly death, since I used MOZ_ASSERT
3028. # [19:32] <froydnj> I expect a veritable rainbow
3029. # [19:33] <froydnj> bz: thanks for turning out a patch so quick
3030. # [19:33] * bz considered MOZ_CRASH and pushing opt to see b2g fireworks too
3031. # [19:33] <bz> froydnj: well. We still need to fix the media code...
3032. # [19:33] <jesup> bz: was the streaming media code using timers across threads?
3033. # [19:33] <bz> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997844
3034. # [19:33] <Mossop> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Of course the respins pass :(
3035. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> of course
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3037. # [19:33] <froydnj> jesup, padenot &co have been doing a great job fixing media oranges and whatnot
3038. # [19:33] <bz> jesup: which has excellent analysis
3039. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> two pushes in a row with the same failure, and retriggers are OK
3040. # [19:34] <bz> jesup: MediaDecoderStateMachine::ScheduleStateMachine
3041. # [19:34] <bz> jesup: resets a timer
3042. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mossop: oh ffs
3043. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> same slave too
3044. # [19:34] <Mossop> My try runs were clean too. Doing some more now
3045. # [19:34] <Mossop> Hrm
3046. # [19:34] <bz> jesup: and can get called on multiple threads
3047. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mossop: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/slave.html?name=t-w864-ix-020
3048. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that doesn't look good
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3050. # [19:34] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: btw, you should be happy about that bug
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3052. # [19:34] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: aka "this is why test_seek times out"
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3055. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: and every other media test? :)
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3058. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mossop: I'm going to chalk it up to bad slave and disable it
3059. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you can repush whenever
3060. # [19:35] <Mossop> Ok!
3061. # [19:35] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: could be!
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3064. # [19:35] <bz> froydnj: so "don't do this" is all well and good, but now I'm thinking about how this code _should_ work
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3068. # [19:36] <bz> froydnj: I guess it could bounce an event to some canonical thread to reset the timer...
3069. # [19:36] <froydnj> bz: what's the "it" there?
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3071. # [19:36] <bz> froydnj: A state machine driven from multiple threads
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3073. # [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/af6a5461089d - Dave Townsend - Bug 993029: Add a way for the add-on manager to pass add-on globals to the debug actors. r=panos, r=Unfocused
3074. # [19:37] * froydnj considers alan cox's "threads are for people who don't understand state machines" dictum and is pretty sure this code would make him doubly sad
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3077. # [19:38] <bz> froydnj: now you have three problems?
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3079. # [19:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ee8d408e364 - Patrick McManus - Bug 997690 - nsHttpConnection::IdleTimeout default can be set internally r=hurley
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3085. # [19:40] <jesup> bz: I was asking cpearce(?) in #media about this a few days ago (or was it padenot?) about calls to AudioStream from MediaDecoder, and the comment was "almost always from the same thread".... :-( Which is part of why I made sure AudioStream gained some more locking on Resume and Pause and Shutdown ;-)
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3091. # [19:41] <bz> jesup: heh
3092. # [19:41] <bz> jesup: See, the code touching mTimer is in a monitor
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3094. # [19:41] <bz> jesup: but that's not good enough
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3096. # [19:41] <jesup> yeah. Or we could fix Timer ;-)
3097. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0d6c8a242e5 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 997166 - Avoid starting up the seer service if we don't have to. r=mcmanus
3098. # [19:42] <bz> well, that's the other option, yes
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3100. # [19:42] <bz> We could have timer do some sort of monitor around its own state munging or something...
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3102. # [19:43] <jesup> because right now it's a footgun (as spectacularily shown)
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3104. # [19:44] <bz> well
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3106. # [19:44] <@khuey> remember that no matter how bad your code is
3107. # [19:44] <@khuey> it's not this bad: http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/e5136d69ece4682e6167c8f4a8122270236898bf
3108. # [19:44] <bz> once I land this assert it will only be a footgun until your try push
3109. # [19:44] <philor> botond: does the incomprehensible worthless crash in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38022844&tree=Mozilla-Inbound look like you might have caused it?
3110. # [19:45] <jesup> This is why I said on the bug that led to this (bug 994877) that just "not doing 0 timeouts" was NOT a solution... I figured something like this was hiding under the covers
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3112. # [19:45] <bz> khuey: heh
3113. # [19:45] <evilpie> khuey: whoa
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3115. # [19:46] <evilpie> "resort to secret exponent as unpredictable seed" good good
3116. # [19:46] <bz> evilpie: "secret" just means "don't publish in New York Times", right?
3117. # [19:46] <jesup> now we know who was on the NSA payroll, good!
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3119. # [19:46] <bz> evilpie: it doesn't mean "don't tell anyone"!
3120. # [19:46] <jesup> Shush!
3121. # [19:47] <froydnj> I read things like http://veridicalsystems.com/blog/of-money-responsibility-and-pride/ and experience dissonance when I see some of these openssl fixes being made lately
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3124. # [19:48] <philor> botond: oh, nevermind, intermittent below you
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3136. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5a1b6dfdff18 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 995741 - Restore tabs after crash. r=mfinkle
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3138. # [19:52] <botond> philor: whew :)
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3140. # [19:53] <robuster> any nss/nspr developers around?
3141. # [19:53] <bz> s/around/in existence/
3142. # [19:54] <gaston> armenzg: where are all those minis going now ? :)
3143. # [19:54] <armenzg> gaston: we're going to have a datacenter garage sale
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3145. # [19:54] <armenzg> jk
3146. # [19:55] <armenzg> I don't know yet
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3148. # [19:55] <armenzg> there are people from various teams that would have need for it
3149. # [19:55] <gaston> heh
3150. # [19:55] <armenzg> I should probably start a thread with IT
3151. # [19:56] <gaston> i suppose the hw is mostly burnt out anyway, or still usable for some years ?
3152. # [19:56] <robuster> in firefox, when you visit a ssl page - the content transmitted in plain-text through PR_Write and after that i assume the encryption takes place, but in a TLS 1.2 enabled site the content transmitted through PR_Write is not in plaintext. where can i see what's actually going on?
3153. # [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ec02b778be1 - Patrick McManus - Bug 997686 - SocketTransportService infaliible malloc cleanup r=sworkman
3154. # [19:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/caf503c905c0 - Patrick McManus - Bug 997688 - nsSocketTransport should track SocketTransportService via smart ptr r=sworkman
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3156. # [19:56] <robuster> i spent some time in the doxygen but couldnt find sh*t so it felt like i was wasting time
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3160. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/779b111e77f6 - Monica Chew - Bug 997759: Prefs for phishing and malware tables are comma-sep lists (r=gcp)
3161. # [19:58] <bz> robuster: Asking on the crypto mailing list might be your best bet
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3165. # [19:59] <robuster> where's the crypto mailing list?
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3172. # [20:00] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do we have an actual criteria to figure out if an orange has been fixed?
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3174. # [20:00] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: context: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b923061d9f0c (looking good so far)
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3176. # [20:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: lots of retriggers and confidence in our understanding of the underlying problem is usually the way to go :)
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3192. # [20:05] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: lots of retriggers it is then! ;)
3193. # [20:05] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fwiw if this actually works, that gives us a clue about the underlying focus manager bug
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3196. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: nice
3197. # [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/034a63535df0 - Monica Chew - Bug 997759: Prefs for phishing and malware tables are comma-sep lists (r=gcp,ba=sledru)
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3228. # [20:26] <bz> so
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3230. # [20:26] <bz> I pushed this patch to fatally assert when people misuse timers from the wrong thread
3231. # [20:27] <@khuey> and we assert everywhere?
3232. # [20:27] <bz> It's orangeish
3233. # [20:27] <@khuey> this is my experience with adding threading assertions ;-)
3234. # [20:27] <bz> On M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, bc1, bc2, bc3, dt1, dt2, dt3, Moth, RR, RJ, RC
3235. # [20:27] <bz> and cppunittests
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3237. # [20:27] <bz> and marionette
3238. # [20:28] <bz> still waiting on jit tests and xpcshell... ;)
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3240. # [20:28] <@khuey> not bad
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3242. # [20:28] <bz> mediapipeline_unittes
3243. # [20:28] <bz> er, unittest
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3246. # [20:29] <@khuey> mmm, the cache misusing the timer could be a problem
3247. # [20:29] <evilpie> khuey: http://opensslrampage.org/
3248. # [20:29] <bz> yes
3249. # [20:29] <bz> I was thinking that
3250. # [20:29] * bz is filing a bug
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3252. # [20:29] <shu> bent: with a --disable-optimize build, when i attach a process it's loading SO many symbols
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3254. # [20:30] <bz> In fact, I expect cache accounts for most of this orange. :(
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3256. # [20:30] <shu> bent: so seems like that was it!
3257. # [20:30] <bz> hrm
3258. # [20:30] <bz> So....
3259. # [20:31] <bz> What this code does is settarget
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3261. # [20:31] <bz> then init the timer
3262. # [20:31] <bz> hrm
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3264. # [20:32] <bz> That seems legit
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3266. # [20:32] <bz> I need to fix my assert somehow
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3269. # [20:33] <bz> Need to not assert on first init, ever
3270. # [20:33] <botond> Can we use std::unordered_map in gecko code? It's listed at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code, but I get "error: 'unordered_map' in namespace 'std' does not name a type" when I try to actually use it (building on B2G).
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3272. # [20:33] <froydnj> b2g may still have it in tr1::
3273. # [20:34] <froydnj> or you may need <ext/unordered_map>
3274. # [20:34] <froydnj> or something
3275. # [20:34] <botond> froydnj: good call!, tr1:: seems to do it
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3277. # [20:35] <tbsaunde> why are we using that instead of whatever gecko hash table is appropriate in the first place thoguh?
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3280. # [20:35] <nemo> bz: say. smaug was helping me w/ guesses at to why dialogs no longer work in my linux nightlies, and I finally got around to bisecting as between 2014-04-08 and 2014-04-09 - any ideas what might be in that range? The bad nightly, https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5811efc11011 The good nightly, https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8883360b1edb
3281. # [20:35] <nemo> I ask you 'cause you like speculating about stuff on IRC :)
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3284. # [20:35] <bz> Ah, I can use mGeneration
3285. # [20:36] <nemo> stuff that doesn't work is like the download dialog, the profiler addon menu, the ssl certificate or site info dialogs, the plugin unblock dialog...
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3287. # [20:36] * froydnj waits and waits for try results
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3289. # [20:37] <nemo> the new fancy firefox button, oddly, works. so it can't be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943204
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3291. # [20:37] <nemo> maybe related though?
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3293. # [20:37] <bz> nemo: looking
3294. # [20:37] <nemo> there is sometimes a brief flash of a rectangle when trying to click on something like a menu wants to appear
3295. # [20:37] <bz> nemo: I was having similar issues with the download manager popup on Linux, btw
3296. # [20:38] <nemo> \o/
3297. # [20:38] <nemo> smaug was fine
3298. # [20:38] <nemo> he was on intel, I'm on ati
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3300. # [20:38] <bz> nemo: I'm on Mac. ;)
3301. # [20:38] <botond> tbsaunde: familiarity mostly. i feel we are moving towards standard containers with MFBT (MFBT itself doesn't seem to have a hashtable, or I'd use that) so in new code i try to use it
3302. # [20:38] <nemo> ah :-p
3303. # [20:38] <bz> nemo: as in, the X server is on a Mac
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3305. # [20:39] <nemo> there's a weird startup error spew in firefox lately btw. "ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment."
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3307. # [20:39] <bz> nemo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994562 ?
3308. # [20:39] <nemo> \o/
3309. # [20:39] <nemo> that does look like it
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3313. # [20:40] <nemo> date is right too
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3316. # [20:40] <nemo> oh well. guess I should have just waited a bit longer :)
3317. # [20:40] <tbsaunde> botond: I'm not really convinced that's either true or a great idea, but *shrug*
3318. # [20:40] <bz> nemo: sure; I got there from seeing bug 610545 in your regression range
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3323. # [20:41] <nemo> oh. how'd you make that range w/ bugs?
3324. # [20:42] <bz> nemo: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=8883360b1edb&tochange=5811efc11011
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3326. # [20:42] * nemo bookmarks
3327. # [20:42] <bz> nemo: then skimmed the checkin comments
3328. # [20:42] <bz> nemo: I have a "range" bookmarklet, fwiw
3329. # [20:42] <bz> nemo so I can type "range 8883360b1edb 5811efc11011" and get that url
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3332. # [20:43] <@khuey> pushloghtml doesn't always give you the right answers
3333. # [20:43] <@khuey> if the bugs were originally pushed to another branch ...
3334. # [20:44] <bz> khuey, froyndj: for extra fun, mGeneration indicates that some consumers violate the threading constraints already?
3335. # [20:44] <bz> khuey: how so?
3336. # [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/df9d828e36fc - Eddy Bruel - Bug 859372 - Provide Debugger constructor as a built-in module;r=past
3337. # [20:45] <@khuey> bz: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.quality/Fq6PsA7lKSQ
3338. # [20:45] <vlad> nemo: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/gl/GLContextProviderGLX.cpp#75
3339. # [20:45] <vlad> for the s3tc warning
3340. # [20:45] <nemo> bz: mm http://kb.mozillazine.org/Multiple_parameter_keyword_searches - that could stand to have a more convenient syntax
3341. # [20:45] <vlad> that warning comes from GLX
3342. # [20:45] <nemo> like %1 %2..
3343. # [20:45] <vlad> well, for Mesa that is
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3345. # [20:45] <bz> khuey: sure
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3347. # [20:46] <bz> khuey: but if I have the changeset ids of two nightlies...
3348. # [20:46] <froydnj> bz: just from checking mGeneration along, no thread ownership?
3349. # [20:46] <nemo> vlad: ah. seems harmless then
3350. # [20:46] <bz> khuey: then I want to look at the corresponding pushlog on m-c
3351. # [20:46] <nemo> reading the bug
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3354. # [20:46] <bz> khuey: you need to use the pushlog for the repo your builds were built from
3355. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/42ebc55c708b - Eddy Bruel - Bug 859372 - Refactor DevToolsUtils.js;r=past
3356. # [20:47] <@khuey> bz: sure, if you're testing builds that is fine
3357. # [20:47] <@khuey> bz: since the downloaded build is always from the tip of a push
3358. # [20:47] <@khuey> bz: if you're bisecting ...
3359. # [20:47] <bz> khuey: right
3360. # [20:47] <bz> sure
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3362. # [20:47] <bz> if bisecting, pushlog is near-useless
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3364. # [20:48] <bz> froydnj: no, because mGeneration explicitly exists to allow cancel/reinit from a thread other than the target thread
3365. # [20:48] <bz> froydnj: afaict
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3368. # [20:48] <bz> hmmm
3369. # [20:48] <bz> Or maybe not
3370. # [20:49] <NeilAway> poiru: try chooser or the try push script could estimate the cost for you
3371. # [20:49] <bz> I guess it protects against a race with an event that's already in the event target's queue
3372. # [20:49] <bz> ok
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3378. # [20:50] <bz> khuey: so the good news is that the cache was a false positive. ;)
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3380. # [20:51] <vlad> bz: how hard is it with our new webidl binding fancyness to create a JS data object in C++?
3381. # [20:52] <vlad> like if I want to return an object with a bunch of non-live properties, some of which may be arrays
3382. # [20:52] <NeilAway> KaiRo: I used to start my builds off at midnight, which meant that their build ID would always end in 00 ;-)
3383. # [20:52] <bz> vlad: You define a webidl dictionary
3384. # [20:52] <bz> vlad: fill it in in the C++
3385. # [20:53] <bz> vlad: and ToJSValue() it
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3387. # [20:53] <@khuey> bz: yay our code is not totally busted ;-)
3388. # [20:53] <vlad> bz: this sounds really neat
3389. # [20:54] <bz> vlad: we tried. ;)
3390. # [20:54] <vlad> arg
3391. # [20:54] <bz> vlad: arrays of heterogeneous types are a bit of a pain
3392. # [20:54] <vlad> MDN helpfully puts "Edit this page" and "View page history" as the first two items in the context menu
3393. # [20:54] <vlad> totally breaks my muscle memory of right-click -> Back
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3395. # [20:54] <vlad> is this still accurate: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/vS877oA_HSA
3396. # [20:54] * bz grumbles about travel agents
3397. # [20:54] <vlad> luckily, I only need arrays of homogeneous types
3398. # [20:54] <@khuey> bz: so say we all
3399. # [20:55] <bz> who ask you for info
3400. # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2cfd08ae677 - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 471713 - Remove duplicated parens around flags in SpiderMonkey. r=jwalden
3401. # [20:55] <vlad> bz: and then ignore it?
3402. # [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66e8c9fc98fd - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 471713 - Part 4: Add documentation for variables and constants. r=luke
3403. # [20:55] <bz> yes
3404. # [20:55] <vlad> bz: is this work week travel?
3405. # [20:55] <bz> like known traveler numbers
3406. # [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad2df996c19b - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 471713 - Part 3: Add documentation for function call-related opcodes. r=djvj
3407. # [20:55] <bz> vlad: yes
3408. # [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8a723b73c03 - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 471713 - Part 6: Add documentation for object- and array-related opcodes. r=evilpies
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3414. # [20:57] <bz> vlad: as for that post....
3415. # [20:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/67bcfa1fe3c9 - Nick Alexander - Bug 996749 - Kill PrefsSource. r=rnewman
3416. # [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3b4a911abb02 - Nick Alexander - Bug 962622 - Work around Android pre-v12 rounded corners bug. r=rnewman
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3418. # [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0c7af628c3db - Nick Alexander - Bug 996843 - Autocomplete email addresses in Android Firefox Accounts sign-up/sign-in. r=rnewman
3419. # [20:57] <bz> vlad: not sso current
3420. # [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6edb3b4eba0c - Nick Alexander - Bug 973529 - Fix FxAccount activity layout and gravity on Android tablets. r=rnewman
3421. # [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8a3bc080200e - Nick Alexander - Bug 975013 - Pad and correctly size show/hide password button. r=rnewman
3422. # [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c0e6f3b758b4 - Nick Alexander - Bug 985766 - Always include payload verification hashes in FxAccountClient* requests. r=rnewman
3423. # [20:57] <bz> vlad: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Dictionary_types
3424. # [20:57] <bz> vlad: that's current
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3439. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc71ac7b9074 - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 990807 - Valgrind detects leak - 4 bytes and/or 32 bytes are definitely lost (direct), r=dougc
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3444. # [21:02] * bz ponders upgrading to Economy Plus....
3445. # [21:02] <bz> If nothing else, for the power outlet
3446. # [21:03] * bz wonders whether this flight will have wifi
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3451. # [21:04] <bz> I guess no
3452. # [21:04] <bz> nor on the flight back
3453. # [21:04] <bz> which is dumb
3454. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> Yay, flying
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3456. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> Back in my day, you couldn't even take a computer on a plane!
3457. # [21:05] <@khuey> bz: welcome to united
3458. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d5dae8097ef - Nathan Froyd - Bug 993522 - fix comment in DMD.h; r=njn
3459. # [21:06] <jesup> Ms2ger: monitors were hard to lug before laptops. Of course there was always the Osborne (or Commodore SX-64)
3460. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c509bb6f5c4 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 682216 - add a memory reporter for libnestegg's memory; r=njn,kinetik
3461. # [21:06] <bz> khuey: yeah
3462. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c22d81c6b04 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 992955 - update libnestegg to upstream commit c739433; r=kinetik
3463. # [21:06] <bz> khuey: virgin had no seats for the dates in question. :(
3464. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4a44ad0248ba - Nick Alexander - Bug 986664 - Make Android FxAccountClient* HAWK requests always include request payload hash. r=rnewman
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3466. # [21:06] <@khuey> bz: lame
3467. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/64bfb458f739 - Nick Alexander - Backed out changeset c0e6f3b758b4 (bug 985766) for landing with wrong bug number.
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3469. # [21:06] <jesup> bz: UA (now merging with American) seems better about that
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3472. # [21:07] <bz> khuey: lame in that they sold out?
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3474. # [21:07] <bz> jesup: ?
3475. # [21:07] <bz> khuey: I mean, the lame part is that we changed this work week location last-minute!
3476. # [21:07] <jesup> wifi
3477. # [21:07] * bz would have vastly preferred Toronto
3478. # [21:07] <jesup> bz: really? Ouch
3479. # [21:07] <bz> jesup: UA is what doesn't have wifi here.... ;)
3480. # [21:08] <jesup> Toronto is easy-peasy
3481. # [21:08] <bz> jesup: at least if seatguru is to be believed
3482. # [21:08] <bz> jesup: esp. from Boston
3483. # [21:08] * froydnj loves going to toronto!
3484. # [21:08] <jesup> probably so
3485. # [21:08] <bz> jesup: since I can fly into city airport
3486. # [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c2c8796a9212 - Nick Alexander - Bug 960640 - Make finding Android build-tools future-proof. r=glandium
3487. # [21:09] <jesup> virgin - all wifi, all power. Though I'll note that Lenovo power supplies (some of them) seem to not work on Virgin (and on United in another case). Could be too-high draw, though it seemed to not do anything at all when plugged in
3488. # [21:09] <froydnj> nalexander++
3489. # [21:10] <nalexander> froydnj: \o/ testing appreciated :)
3490. # [21:10] <nalexander> froydnj: just writing a post to mobile-firefox-dev about the change, and realized I never pushed this to try. Let's see how portable my sed, sort, and find are :)
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3492. # [21:11] <froydnj> nalexander: ooo...good luck with that
3493. # [21:11] <bz> jesup: yeah, virgin is by far the best option BOS -> SFO
3494. # [21:11] <bz> jesup: when they have seats!
3495. # [21:11] <jesup> did virgin last trip (during all the snowstorms, week-long power outages, etc). Interesting
3496. # [21:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7385eb179c83 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 997825 - fix the broken unicorn, r=jaws
3497. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> bz, I guess that might be why they don't have seats left :)
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3501. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c59614ef6d3 - Randell Jesup - Bug 997286: Don't depend on NewThread event timing; add test for suicidal initial events r=bsmedberg
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3503. # [21:15] <froydnj> Gijs: save the unicorns!
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3505. # [21:16] <NeilAway> bz: what's the best way to mix weak references and WebIDL objects?
3506. # [21:16] * KaiRo has a nightly process with ~8GB of heap-unclassified :(
3507. # [21:16] <Gijs> froydnj: yeah, I'm looking forward to that approval request...
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3509. # [21:17] <jesup> bz: virgin often has seats if I want to go through LAX :-( If I fly Virgin, it means Newark normally. Which is only around an hour further drive, and more flights/cheaper (but more crowded)
3510. # [21:17] <jesup> Kairo: :-(
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3512. # [21:18] <KaiRo> I guess there's not much more I can do than to close it
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3516. # [21:19] <froydnj> khuey: so we're not supposed to have MOZ_DECLARE_REFCOUNTED_TYPENAME on nsISupports objects, right?
3517. # [21:19] <bz> jesup: I don't believe in connecting flights
3518. # [21:19] <bz> jesup: _especially_ via LAX
3519. # [21:19] * froydnj wonders if khuey is also going to deprecate SupportsWeakPtr for Gecko stuff
3520. # [21:19] <KaiRo> jesup: and this is after minimizing memory in about:memory - the good thing is that it's still responsive, so I'll be able to actually close it normally and I could take the memory measurements
3521. # [21:19] <bz> ms2ger: well, yes. ;)
3522. # [21:19] <jesup> bz: good plan.
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3525. # [21:20] <bz> jesup: or more realistically for me O'Hare. Never, ever connect there. ;)
3526. # [21:20] <froydnj> hear, hear
3527. # [21:20] <bz> NeilAway: what do you mean?
3528. # [21:20] <NeilAway> bz: well, in the old XPIDL days, things were easy
3529. # [21:20] <bz> NeilAway: are you in JS or C++?
3530. # [21:20] <NeilAway> bz: C++
3531. # [21:20] <bz> ok
3532. # [21:20] <jesup> bz: it's been 14 years since I had a change in Chicago :-)
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3534. # [21:21] <bz> so what makes it hard?
3535. # [21:21] <bz> In C++ a WebIDL object is just some object
3536. # [21:21] <NeilAway> bz: you just wrote nsCOMPtr<nsIDesiredInterface> foo = do_QueryReferent(theWeakRefernece);
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3538. # [21:21] <bz> it could implement nsISupportsWeakReference
3539. # [21:21] <bz> Your question is how to get from an nsIWeakReference to something you can work with?
3540. # [21:22] <bz> Nothing stops the object from implementing some interface
3541. # [21:22] <bz> for C++ use
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3543. # [21:22] <bz> or even QIing to its "concrete type"
3544. # [21:22] <bz> It's up to the object to decide how it wants to expose itself
3545. # [21:22] <bz> webidl is not going to force it to do anything in particular
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3548. # [21:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0add478cf3b4 - Sebastian Hengst - Bug 997625 - Sync panel: Checkbox for syncing passwords enabled (not disabled) while sync credentials need reauth r=ttaubert a=sylvestre
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3556. # [21:26] <dholbert> jesup, inbound red
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3558. # [21:27] <NeilAway> bz: well I'm not even sure why PeerConnectionObserver is a WebIDL interface in the first place
3559. # [21:27] <dholbert> jesup, looks like you just need s/nsresult/NS_IMETHOD/ on your Run() method
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3563. # [21:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> beaten by dholbert
3564. # [21:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but I beat him to the "close tree" button :D
3565. # [21:28] <jesup> dholbert: arg. why didn't my Try hit that? land a 1-liner patch?
3566. # [21:28] <dholbert> jesup, maybe you didn't test windows on Try?
3567. # [21:28] * froydnj suspects RyanVM|sheriffduty has a keyboard macro for that
3568. # [21:29] <bz> NeilAway: to get sane glue to the JS implementation?
3569. # [21:29] <dholbert> jesup, 1-liner bustage fix seems fine to me
3570. # [21:29] <jesup> dholbert: ah, yes
3571. # [21:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: hah, I wish
3572. # [21:29] <jesup> cool, will do
3573. # [21:29] <dholbert> jesup, (IIRC NS_IMETHOD only differs from "virtual nsresult" on windows)
3574. # [21:29] <jesup> keep forgetting that
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3577. # [21:30] <dholbert> mxr shows we actually have several nsRunnable subclasses with the same bug, but they must all be not-compiled-on-windows
3578. # [21:30] <dholbert> (e.g. one is in gonk)
3579. # [21:31] <NeilAway> bz: except in the tests they then have to fake the mock object, since of course you can't have two different implementations in webidl land
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3581. # [21:32] <jesup> dholbert: - nsresult Run() { + NS_IMETHOD Run() { look good?
3582. # [21:32] <dholbert> jesup, yup
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3584. # [21:32] <dholbert> jesup, rs=me if you like
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3589. # [21:33] <NeilAway> bz: but following your other suggestion, is it even possible for a JS-implemented WebIDL objects to QI to its "concrete type"?
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3591. # [21:33] <jesup> done
3592. # [21:34] <bz> NeilAway: you can have two different implementations in webidl land if you want
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3597. # [21:34] <bz> NeilAway: but in this case the object is completely autogenerated
3598. # [21:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12d543cfa167 - Randell Jesup - Bug 997286: bustage fix on a CLOSED TREE rs=dholbert
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3600. # [21:34] <bz> NeilAway: which does restrict things a bit
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3603. # [21:34] <bz> NeilAway: and no, the autogenerated thing doesn't QI to its concrete type....
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3607. # [21:35] <bz> NeilAway: we should consider fixing that
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3610. # [21:35] <NeilAway> bz: which is a shame, because we have code that tries to do that
3611. # [21:35] <bz> NeilAway: file a bug?
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3616. # [21:36] <bz> er...
3617. # [21:36] <bz> wait
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3619. # [21:36] <NeilAway> bz: sure, but I want to file something better than just "this code is bad, fix it: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/media/webrtc/signaling/src/peerconnection/PeerConnectionImpl.cpp#1105
3620. # [21:36] <bz> Are we talking about PeerConnectionImpl?
3621. # [21:36] <bz> ohm PeerConnectionObserver
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3623. # [21:37] <jesup> jib: ^
3624. # [21:37] <bz> NeilAway: well, so
3625. # [21:37] <bz> NeilAway: This code is not QIing to the concrete type, right?
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3630. # [21:38] <bz> NeilAway: but what we could do is codegen an IID for the concrete type
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3632. # [21:38] <bz> NeilAway: and QI to it
3633. # [21:38] <NeilAway> bz: it's QIing to nsSupportsWeakReference which is just as bad
3634. # [21:38] <bz> NeilAway: the IID would change every build....
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3636. # [21:39] <bz> NeilAway: basically, this code knows that aRawPtr is a weakref to a PeerConnectionObserver
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3638. # [21:39] <bz> NeilAway: so "tmp" is either a PeerConnectionObserver* under the hood or is null
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3641. # [21:39] <bz> NeilAway: it could just static_cast from tmp.get() directly; I have no idea why it needs tmp2
3642. # [21:40] <bz> But yes, jib and you should talk
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3644. # [21:40] <bz> send mail if I'm needed
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3646. # [21:40] <NeilAway> bz: ta
3647. # [21:41] <jib> Neil: hi, I wrote the code you mention, I haven't read the whole backscroll, was hoping you could summarize
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3651. # [21:41] <NeilAway> jib: ok, so http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/media/webrtc/signaling/src/peerconnection/PeerConnectionImpl.cpp#1085
3652. # [21:42] <NeilAway> jib: that code is incorrect
3653. # [21:42] <NeilAway> jib: bz says the quick fix is to static_cast from tmp.get() to PeerConnectionObserver
3654. # [21:42] <jib> ok
3655. # [21:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f0c288ecee4a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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3657. # [21:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c02b023766e9 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
3658. # [21:42] <NeilAway> jib: there are two other possible alternatives that I'll mention when I file the bug
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3661. # [21:43] <jib> Neil: the reason PeerConnectionObserver is a webidl class is that several methods deal heavily in dictionaries, like getStats
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3668. # [21:48] <dietrich> jdm: it is! i hope we can expand it. we've tried organizing "mozilla education" as a loosely coupled group a few times over the years
3669. # [21:48] <dietrich> but nothing concrete came out of it
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3753. # [22:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce8248d046d1 - David Burns - Bug 967021: Check that a window listener is not null in marionette; r=mdas
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3757. # [22:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3f06dd410b78 - Robert Strong - Bug 798903 - Stub installer should use Segoe UI and other newer UI fonts as appropriate when they are available. r=tabraldes
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3760. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f323de6b9186 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 996269 - Lazily clear the WebGL backbuffer. - r=kamidphish
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3769. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mossop: ping
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3777. # [22:20] <Callek> froydnj: we have one linux64 buildbot master in a weird state, I'm trying to cull it to sanity, but the others should be happy
3778. # [22:20] <Callek> (for tests, not builds)
3779. # [22:21] <Callek> froydnj: oooo I also expect that there was a puppet issue a bit ago that could have delayed startup of a few slaves
3780. # [22:21] <Callek> (ubuntu test slaves to be exact)
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3783. # [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdfb11f2cf9c - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 996282 - Cleanup getParameter. - r=kamidphish
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3790. # [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cc66aee4341 - Martin Thomson - Bug 942367 - Part 1: WebIDL changes for peerIdentity constraint. r=jib
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3792. # [22:24] <froydnj> Callek: been waiting for linux64 tests for ~3-4 hours, which is unexpected
3793. # [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc0586595f80 - Jed Davis - Bug 997409 - Add set_thread_area to seccomp whitelist if available. r=kang
3794. # [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d2138e87ca0 - Martin Thomson - Bug 942367 - Part 2: DOMMediaStream support for PeerIdentity. r=bholley, r=roc
3795. # [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e581e74878d - Martin Thomson - Bug 942367 - Part 3: Stream isolation for WebRTC. r=jib, r=bholley
3796. # [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d32e6e5c5617 - Kearwood (Kip) Gilbert - Bug 926155 - Added reftest to verify that an element contained within a sticky element that is also a scroll container will be reflowed correctly when updated.
3797. # [22:24] <firebot> r=dholbert
3798. # [22:25] <jryans> is there a normal way to represent "optional" in an XPIDL implemented in C++? the [optional] attribute has no effect... i guess you just use a pointer that you can test?
3799. # [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f9e83390b46 - Ehsan Akhgari - Debugging patch for bug 991600
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3801. # [22:25] <qDot> http://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net
3802. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> jryans, do you want [optional_argc]?
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3805. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> jryans, but [optional] is how you mark something optional, yes
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3807. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> jryans, that doesn't correspond to an optional argument in C++, though
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3811. # [22:28] <jryans> Ms2ger: yeah, it's a [noscript] method. so [optional_argc] doesn't seem to help via C++ i don't think. guess i'll just do a pointer.
3812. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> Yeah, XPIDL only supports optional arguments on the JS side
3813. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> "Don't use XPIDL" :)
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3816. # [22:30] <jryans> :)
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3822. # [22:31] <bz> well
3823. # [22:31] <bz> C++ doesn't really have a concept of optional arguments
3824. # [22:31] <bz> without default values
3825. # [22:32] <bz> I mean, you can add overloads with fewer arguments
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3830. # [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/be018ccdcb82 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 4: Rename url bar right edge to translating edge. r=lucasr
3831. # [22:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6a49f6cb3582 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 3: Add cancel button for phone layout. r=bnicholson
3832. # [22:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d46231f4d4ae - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 7: Remove unused members and class variable prefixes. r=lucasr
3833. # [22:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9a5586190013 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 6: Improve readability for BrowserToolbar.start/stopEditing methods. r=lucasr
3834. # [22:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ee46cc7283c2 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 2: Add "cancel" string. r=bnicholson
3835. # [22:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b9a4644f4039 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 1: Add close button image assets. r=bnicholson
3836. # [22:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8998623049ce - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 2.5: Make Themed* processing more robust. r=bnicholson
3837. # [22:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/440224cc83d9 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 5: Shrink the url bar on appropriate phones. r=lucasr
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3843. # [22:37] <DChen_> jaws: hey, are you busy at the moment?
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3846. # [22:39] <jaws> DChen_: just doing a review, what's up?
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3848. # [22:39] <DChen_> i wanted to ask about how to approach bug 996122 caused by my first patch
3849. # [22:40] <Mossop> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
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3851. # [22:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mossop: hey, is irving the right guy to be CCing to addon manager oranges? I seem to get very little in the way of responses to any of the ones I file
3852. # [22:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> had to disable one recently after months of no activity
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3854. # [22:41] <Mossop> RyanVM|sheriffduty: irving or Blair
3855. # [22:41] <DChen_> jaws: from the way the button works, it looks like the player is set to autoplay=false but the video starts playing anyway without the user directly interacting with the player
3856. # [22:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k, they're the ones I've been CCing
3857. # [22:42] <jaws> DChen_: hm, let me see
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3859. # [22:42] <jaws> DChen_: maybe it has autoplay=false and then they kick off the playing themselves maybe?
3860. # [22:42] <Mossop> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :(
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3867. # [22:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mossop: teh recent chunking work has exposed some new failures
3868. # [22:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so far nothing but TBPLbot comments
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3871. # [22:44] <bent> ehsan++
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3873. # [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7645d1aaaea - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 774144 - Webapp uninstallation on Windows through mozapps uninstall function. r=tabraldes
3874. # [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b90918a83e15 - Amod Narvekar - Bug 552025 - Remove the instances of nsINavHistoryResultObserver.containerOpened/Closed. r=mak
3875. # [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bea886b9aac - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 993326 - Use SpecialPowers.autoConfirmAppInstall to confirm app installation and stop using the browser.mozApps.installer.dry_run pref. r=fabrice
3876. # [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0918894c1c03 - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 993326 - Automatically restore apps launchable value. r=fabrice
3877. # [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2fc7f692314b - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 993326 - Don't directly set the dom.mozApps.auto_confirm_install preference in test_operator_app_install. r=fabrice
3878. # [22:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: that can't be said enough :)
3879. # [22:45] <jaws> DChen_: maybe they are calling .play() and then resizing the video?
3880. # [22:45] <jaws> before a frame has actually played?
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3899. # [22:52] <bz> khuey: so......
3900. # [22:52] <bz> khuey: with the assert fixed
3901. # [22:52] <bz> khuey: the cache is still misusing timers
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3905. # [22:52] <jaws> DChen_: this is the code that is kicking off the play(), http://mozorg.cdn.mozilla.net/media/js/annual_2012-min.js?build=f356956
3906. # [22:52] <sicking> baku|away: awwww, are you really away?
3907. # [22:52] <@khuey> bz: fun
3908. # [22:52] * bz files
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3910. # [22:53] <jaws> DChen_: you still there?
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3912. # [22:53] <qDot> vlad: ping
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3915. # [22:53] <DChen_> jaws: right, sorry. i went afk for a moment while i was rebuilding
3916. # [22:53] <jaws> DChen_: that's ok :)
3917. # [22:53] <jaws> just wanted to make sure i wasn't talking to the wind :)
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3925. # [22:56] <DChen_> jaws: looks like its fine now with a check for if it's unpaused + the frame count
3926. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ad0b2772d49 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 997320 - Fix error in App Manager install cleanup. r=ochameau
3927. # [22:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05d9e7977182 - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 991766 - Webapp uninstallation on Mac through mozapps uninstall function. r=myk, r=smichaud
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3929. # [22:57] <DChen_> jaws: would autoplay=true videos be covered by this as well?
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3937. # [22:59] <jesup> bz: is the patch on the bug for the assert?
3938. # [22:59] <jaws> DChen_: covered by what?
3939. # [22:59] <jaws> this=what?
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3945. # [23:00] <jaws> DChen_: i'm pretty sure this is a race condition with the modal taking over 400ms finish the size changes, and the play() call happens after a 400ms delay
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3947. # [23:01] <bz> jesup: yes
3948. # [23:01] <bz> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8408531
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3950. # [23:01] <jaws> DChen_: i think maybe when we show the click to play overlay, we should add an event listener for 'ontimeupdate' and within that function check if video.played.length > 0. if it is >0, then we hide the overlay and remove the event listener
3951. # [23:02] <jaws> DChen_: actually, we don't need to remove the event listener, we already use it
3952. # [23:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05d2713df1fd - James Willcox - Bug 987010 - Ignore alpha in Skia BGRX source surfaces - r=gwright
3953. # [23:03] <jaws> DChen_: maybe we just need to add something within "timeupdate" that checks if .played.length > 0, and if so remove it. also add a comment describing the potential race condition
3954. # [23:03] <DChen_> jaws: oh i meant i just added another condition when deciding to reveal clickToPlay on a resize
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3957. # [23:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d25da069190 - Monica Chew - Bug 933432: Enable remote lookups for application on Windows (r=gcp)
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3959. # [23:03] <jaws> DChen_: we could go that route, it is the only place where we reshow the overlay
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3963. # [23:04] <jaws> DChen_: in general, it's very easy to introduce subtle bugs in the video controls :(
3964. # [23:04] <DChen_> i see
3965. # [23:04] <jaws> so i appreciate your couragenous with helping out here :)
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3968. # [23:04] <jaws> courage*
3969. # [23:04] <jaws> Ms2ger: i agree! just need to find the time :)
3970. # [23:05] <jaws> DChen_: or if you are looking for a sizable project? ^
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3973. # [23:06] <jaws> DChen_: we would like to remove XUL from the video controls, and at that time we could rewrite the bindings to be less error prone
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3975. # [23:06] <fabrice> jaws: is there a bug filed on that? that's the biggest hurdle to build b2g with --disable-xul
3976. # [23:06] <jaws> fabrice: let me check
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3979. # [23:07] <jaws> fabrice: well i don't know if we can get rid of XBL
3980. # [23:07] <fabrice> I don't want to get rid of xbl, only xul
3981. # [23:07] <jaws> fabrice: ok
3982. # [23:07] <DChen_> jaws: not sure if me rewriting the whole module would lead to less errors :P
3983. # [23:07] <jaws> DChen_: well, we would start with adding a bunch of tests :)
3984. # [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/fb8c08125519 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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3986. # [23:07] <bz> well, all the orange is either the media state machine or the disk cache...
3987. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3da55375eaad - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 3 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
3988. # [23:07] <bz> which just means we run those often enough. ;)
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3992. # [23:08] <baku> sicking, I'm here
3993. # [23:08] <sicking> baku: hey
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3995. # [23:09] <jaws> fabrice: this is the closest we have on file, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726240
3996. # [23:09] <jaws> fabrice: Gijs got pretty close in the patch on that file
3997. # [23:09] <sicking> baku: i'm curious about why broadcastchannel isn't using PBackground. That seems to be the easiest way to implement it such that we can use the same code everywhere (parent/child process, main/worker threads)
3998. # [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/62a5caa65d45 - Michael Comella - Bug 965548 - Part 8: Guard toolbar views at runtime so tablets do not break. r=bnicholson
3999. # [23:10] <fabrice> jaws: thanks
4000. # [23:10] <sicking> baku: though bent pointed out that PBackground can't do blobs yet
4001. # [23:10] <jaws> DChen_: it's possible you could pick up the work that Gijs started in bug 726240
4002. # [23:11] <baku> sicking, correct but it's also true that BroadcastChannel works with DOMStrings
4003. # [23:11] <sicking> baku: huh?
4004. # [23:11] <jaws> DChen_: can i assign that bug to you?
4005. # [23:11] <baku> sicking, no particular reasons. I think it's just easier to use Observers
4006. # [23:11] <sicking> baku: what?? that's crazyness
4007. # [23:11] <baku> sicking http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/web-messaging.html#broadcastchannel-settings-object
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4009. # [23:12] <jaws> DChen_: i mean, the regression bug
4010. # [23:12] <baku> sicking, : void postMessage(DOMString message);
4011. # [23:12] <DChen_> jaws: yeah thats fine
4012. # [23:12] <baku> it's not any message, just DOMString :)
4013. # [23:12] <sicking> baku: we should do structured clones for sure. I don't know what hixie was thinking
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4015. # [23:12] <jaws> cool
4016. # [23:12] <baku> sicking, I was thinking the same, but then I did a double check and I saw that DOMString is the only content you can send.
4017. # [23:13] <sicking> baku: yeah, we should raise that as a spec bug
4018. # [23:13] <baku> sicking, maybe we should improve the spec...? :)
4019. # [23:13] <sicking> baku: yup
4020. # [23:13] <fabrice> sicking: come on, just base64 everything
4021. # [23:13] <baku> sicking, too bad :) DOMString was too easy heheh
4022. # [23:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0bd419d38b1b - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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4024. # [23:13] <baku> no structured clone algorithm, no PBackground, just simple nsString \o/
4025. # [23:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/40164bb4210b - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
4026. # [23:13] <jaws> DChen_: let's go with your check for !video.paused. i don't think we need the frame count check. but add a comment describing why the need for !video.paused
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4028. # [23:14] <sicking> baku: i'm still not sure how you deal with child processes if you're not using observers
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4031. # [23:14] <baku> sicking, ok... for child processes I use PContent.ipdl
4032. # [23:14] <DChen_> jaws: well video.played.length was the solution to the previous patches where somebody else caused the overlay to reappear after playing it for a while and then pausing again
4033. # [23:14] <baku> the child sends a message to the parent and the parent 'broadcasts' it to any child.
4034. # [23:14] <sicking> baku: in particular, can you make sure that messages only go to child processes that are running the right app?
4035. # [23:15] <baku> the child sends a message to the parent and the parent 'broadcasts' it to any children
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4038. # [23:15] <baku> sicking, yep (mmm... I think so) I took 'getOrigin' from notification API
4039. # [23:15] <jaws> DChen_: yeah, but won't keeping the video.played.length check around prevent that issue from coming back?
4040. # [23:15] <baku> so I check the principal, then the manifest, and so on. if you want I can point to the code and you can give me a feedback.
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4042. # [23:16] <baku> sicking, btw I'm writing a test just for this.
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4044. # [23:16] <DChen_> jaws: oh i meant video.played.length was the frame count
4045. # [23:16] <DChen_> jaws: the only change was '&& this.video.paused'
4046. # [23:16] <sicking> baku: ok
4047. # [23:16] <jaws> DChen_: oh ok
4048. # [23:16] <jaws> DChen_: sounds good
4049. # [23:16] <sicking> baku: how do you get the message to worker threads?
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4053. # [23:18] <jaws> DChen_: i'm gonna head out now but i'll be back late tonight
4054. # [23:18] <DChen_> jaws: okay then
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4056. # [23:18] <baku> sicking, I have a BroadcastChannelObserver that is thread-safe and it runs on the main-thread. There, it listens for notifications. workerRunnable sends the message back to the worker.
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4058. # [23:19] <baku> this part is fully written and tested with a mochitest.
4059. # [23:19] <sicking> baku: ok... is this really easier than using PBackground?
4060. # [23:19] <baku> sicking, if then we want to migrate to PBackground, I don't think it's complex. Just I don't need to have a custom protocol
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4062. # [23:19] <baku> sicking, if the content is just a string.
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4065. # [23:21] <baku> sicking, the real question is: do we want to use just strings or 'any message' ? for string, IPDL, it's 1 method, worker is 1 runnable.
4066. # [23:21] <sicking> baku: i think we should move to PBackground so that we can add structured clone support more easily
4067. # [23:21] <baku> sicking, if we want to support something more, then PBackground would help.
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4069. # [23:21] <baku> sicking, I agree. I didn't know you had something more complex in your mind :) I just followed the spec
4070. # [23:22] <sicking> baku: definitely "any message". We can enable it in FirefoxOS with just string support, but on desktop i'd want to do structured clones before enabling
4071. # [23:22] <sicking> baku: yeah, my bad for missing that in the spec
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4073. # [23:22] <baku> sicking, ok. how urgent is this API ?
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4075. # [23:22] <sicking> baku: not urgent. And we can find someone else to help too
4076. # [23:23] <baku> sicking, because I guess smaug can reviewed next week. If we want to have just string, we can have PBackground, and 'any' in followups.
4077. # [23:23] <baku> emm s/can reviewed/can review it/
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4080. # [23:25] <baku> sicking, about blobs in PBackground and so on, I had a patch for porting Blobs and Files to WebIDL... but it's unfinished and it's more than 9k lines :/ it take a while to finish it fully.
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4089. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c18257d0163 - Eric Rahm - Bug 967817 - Finish memory reporters for Web Audio. r=roc, njn
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4093. # [23:29] <sicking> baku: i think it'd make sense to do string in PBackground for now
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4095. # [23:30] <sicking> baku: or just put the thing on hold until we have better blob support in PBackground (which is the tricky part of structured clones, right?)
4096. # [23:30] <baku> sicking, yes it it.
4097. # [23:31] <sicking> baku: cool. So either just wait, or do just strings in PBackground for now, up to you. But if we do just strings I think I'd prefer to only enable in FFOS
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4102. # [23:34] <jesup> bz: Some quick getUserMedia and WebRTC tests with the timer stuff shows no hits outside the diskcache
4103. # [23:34] <jesup> \o/
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4106. # [23:35] <bz> jesup: excellent. ;)
4107. # [23:35] * kmoir is now known as kmoir-afk
4108. # [23:35] <jesup> I saw the unit test thing; those are ugly to begin with (since they don't run on "mainthread")
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4110. # [23:36] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: botond pointed me to bustage on aurora from my patch, i can fix it in-place
4111. # [23:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: good, because I was just coming to ping you :)
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4113. # [23:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i need to head out soon
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4123. # [23:40] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pushed a fix. if that doesn't work it should be backed out i guess
4124. # [23:41] <kats> the git mirror hasn't got those changes yet so i wasn't able to build locally
4125. # [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8844503bc63a - Patrick Brosset - Bug 997622 - Expand all descendant nodes on alt-click in markup-view; r=jwalker
4126. # [23:41] <Ms2ger> Oooh, we're up to 998k
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4131. # [23:41] <qDot> Wasn't our original prediction of 1mil like, last December?
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4134. # [23:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: you'll need to keep an eye on it
4135. # [23:42] * RyanVM|sheriffduty is going afk soon
4136. # [23:42] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, will for as long as i can
4137. # [23:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
4138. # [23:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i can check back in a few hours
4139. # [23:42] <Ms2ger> qDot, I think mine was Februaryish
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4147. # [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba276673a564 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 997795 - Cleanup decodings. r=dkeeler
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4153. # [23:46] <philor> kip: has anyone introduced you to the "T push" idea at the end of https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#Examples? it can help keep you out of the top of https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/reportor/daily/highscores/highscores.html, when you don't need all-platform testing
4154. # [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/903bbde3a7c4 - Randell Jesup - Bug 996853: handle AUDIO_FORMAT_SILENCE in MediaPipeline and AudioSegment::WriteTo r=roc
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4160. # [23:49] <kip> philor: I haven't used it yet, but thanks for the tip!
4161. # [23:49] <botond> philor: cool, i didn't know about that either. i might start doing that too, though i guess i'd better do my testing on B2G rather than Linux
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4164. # [23:49] <philor> botond: nah, stick with Linux, it's less likely to fail on you ;)
4165. # [23:50] <kats> huh i'm pretty high on that list too
4166. # [23:50] <botond> philor: i write code primarily exercised on B2G though
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4169. # [23:50] <philor> my point exactly!
4170. # [23:50] <kats> lol
4171. # [23:51] <botond> :)
4172. # [23:51] <philor> it's surprising how little it takes to get high on the list - I'm above the fold (on this monitor, anyway) with just my three all/all/all pushes per week
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4174. # [23:52] <philor> which probably means that the 20+ hour backlog for 10.8 tests, which is what I'm trying to cut back by getting people to run less, has already driven people to just push to inbound instead of try
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4183. # [23:53] <@dolske> Waldo: ping?
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4185. # [23:53] <Waldo> dolske: fnord
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4188. # [23:53] <@dolske> Waldo: I have a question about toLocaleDateString(). Are you likely to know an answer? :)
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4191. # [23:53] <Waldo> dolske: maaaaaaaybe
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4194. # [23:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/18e86d65f614 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 3 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
4195. # [23:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f7b2874a3518 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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4197. # [23:54] <@dolske> Waldo: so, let's say I want to provide an |options| (for a not-default formatting of the output), but want to use the user's default locale.
4198. # [23:55] <@dolske> what do I provide for the first arg to say "use the default locale"?
4199. # [23:55] <@dolske> ......undefined? oh, wow, that works.
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4202. # [23:56] <Waldo> I...think that might work? checking specs
4203. # [23:56] <@dolske> I was thinking empty-string would have been the sane thing, but ok?
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4206. # [23:57] <kip> lol @ "Winner's Don't Use Drugs" screen...
4207. # [23:57] <Waldo> well, it takes either a string or an array-like thing
4208. # [23:57] <Waldo> dolske: or undefined, just as well
4209. # [23:57] <Waldo> dolske: [] might be clearest, but I'd probably just use undefined myself
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4213. # [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b9afa9c0f313 - Aki Sasaki - bug 991391 - b2g version 1.5->2.0. r=rail
4214. # [23:59] <@dolske> ok
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