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29. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3b7262a6f29 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 997982: Mark xpcom/glue/tests/gtest/ as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=froydnj
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33. # [00:14] <@dolske> Waldo: great success. http://cl.ly/image/1v0c0j3B0t1l
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35. # [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bd6fdc0dcac0 - Tim Taubert - Bug 996159 - Fix sync config section on Windows with 125% DPI. r=gavin a=sylvestre
36. # [00:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9ce31b9cd02d - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 988156 - Backout fd0d0f6002dc (Bug 846566) for causing fullscreen videos on Netflix to appear black. r=smichaud a=sylvestre
37. # [00:15] <Waldo> dolske: to show *time* for last-used, but only dates for the other two? nice
38. # [00:16] <Waldo> dolske: note that if you're going to be using the same sort of options a bunch of times, it's better to create a single Intl.DateTimeFormat object, then use that object to repeatedly format dates
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40. # [00:16] <Waldo> dolske: rather than having to create all that gunk once each time
41. # [00:16] <Waldo> dolske: akin to compiling a regexp rather than using the same pattern string a bunch of times and all
42. # [00:17] <Waldo> I think we're at the point now where Intl isn't going away, and it's okay to start using it, more or less
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44. # [00:17] <Waldo> modulo its not existing on mobile platforms quite just yet, I...think
45. # [00:18] <Waldo> dolske: it is pretty high on my todo list to write a post about the Intl stuff before the next release, just pesky security stuffs getting in the way
46. # [00:18] <@dolske> yeah, saw the note but didn't do that yet.
47. # [00:18] * Waldo securitygrmbls
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50. # [00:18] <@dolske> should probably just be "dozens" of items, although I guess I'm not sure exactly how often this XUL tree getCellText thing gets called.
51. # [00:19] <@khuey> respect our securitah
52. # [00:19] <@dolske> I'll change it anyway because right thing to do.
53. # [00:19] <Waldo> khuey: if there were security to respect...
54. # [00:19] <Waldo> :-\
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58. # [00:21] <robuster> does anyone know what file parses the user_pref settings?
59. # [00:21] <froydnj> robuster: modules/libpref/src/prefread.cpp
60. # [00:21] <robuster> security.tls.version.max in specific, i was searching through the code for "security.tls.version.max" but oddly no matches was found
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66. # [00:24] <@dolske> search harder? :) http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp#1039
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71. # [00:25] <@dolske> note that in some cases, code will grab a pref branch (ie, prefs that share some common prefix), so sometimes you need to search for just the tail end of the pref.
72. # [00:25] <@dolske> but that's not happening here.
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75. # [00:27] <robuster> no wonder i couldn't find it, i was searching in the chromium trunk :| sorry
76. # [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b79f456a5566 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 997519 - Ensure that an valid encoding will be passed to nsTextToSubURI::UnEscapeAndConvert(). r=neil
77. # [00:29] <@dolske> heh
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82. # [00:31] <robuster> maybe you can assist me with another question too? I asked earlier but no one was able to give me an answer
83. # [00:31] <robuster> when you visit a ssl page - the content transmitted in plain-text through PR_Write and after that i assume the encryption takes place, but in a TLS 1.2 enabled site the content transmitted through PR_Write is not in plaintext
84. # [00:33] <robuster> do you know what function it is that encrypts the data
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102. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/87dd13ef285c - Florian Quèze - Bug 993495 - Update WebRTC UI and add test, r=felipe.
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192. # [01:22] <mrbkap> dolske: ping?
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199. # [01:24] <@dolske> mrbkap: yo
200. # [01:25] <mrbkap> dolske: Hey, so I just realized that my login manager patches break mochitest because the login manager stuff is now all async.
201. # [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/98d6d4c38fcc - Dave Camp - Bug 983331 - The debugger server protocol should describe itself. r=gozala
202. # [01:26] <@dolske> mrbkap: what's async?
203. # [01:26] <@dolske> with your patches?
204. # [01:26] <mrbkap> dolske: yes.
205. # [01:26] <mrbkap> dolske: looking up the available logins is now async.
206. # [01:27] <@dolske> ah, right. well, that's a bummer to fix :)
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208. # [01:27] <mrbkap> dolske: I was wondering if it'd be sufficient to simply block us from firing onload until we have the result.
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214. # [01:27] <@dolske> onload of the page? or the autocomplete popup?
215. # [01:28] <mrbkap> dolske: of the page.
216. # [01:28] <@dolske> I'm not sure how that would work, a bunch of the tests trigger the popup repeatedly from the page.
217. # [01:29] <@dolske> when does onpopupshowing / onpopupshown fire relative to your async bits?
218. # [01:30] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: one last question... why is http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/components/shell/src/nsWindowsShellService.cpp#774 unsigned, when everything else it's used with is signed?
219. # [01:30] <mrbkap> dolske: For the same-process case, it should fire once we get the logins back from the db.
220. # [01:30] * mrbkap is less sure about the cross-process case.
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222. # [01:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9bceac0d1547 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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224. # [01:32] <mattwoodrow> NeilAway: not sure really
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227. # [01:34] <mrbkap> dolske: So that should be fine.
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229. # [01:34] <mrbkap> dolske: the biggest problem I see is that onload is now firing before we get a chance to fill in the inputs.
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232. # [01:38] <NeilAway> mattwoodrow: ok, so making it signed for consistency shouldn't be a problem?
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244. # [01:51] <@dolske> mrbkap: so, I'm a little confused. the autocomplete stuff involving a popup is basically entirely separate from the autofill-as-a-page-loads stuff.
245. # [01:51] <mrbkap> dolske: yes.
246. # [01:52] <@dolske> so I'm not really sure how onload is involved. like, a page could be fully and wholly loaded, minutes later a user interacts with a login field and triggers autocomplete popups.
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248. # [01:53] <mrbkap> dolske: Sorry, I'm not talking about the autocomplete stuff at all right now.
249. # [01:53] <@dolske> I could see there being an async issue between selecting an item in the autocomplete popup and it being filled in... maybe oninput works for that? not sure we wait for that currently.
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251. # [01:54] <@dolske> ok, what are you talking about? :) I thought the only patch you had going on was for the autocomplete e10s stuff.
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253. # [01:54] <mrbkap> dolske: hah
254. # [01:54] <mrbkap> dolske: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=949617 :)
255. # [01:57] <@dolske> oh, um
256. # [01:57] * @dolske resets
257. # [01:57] <mrbkap> dolske: I guess I can block in onFormPassword, but I was hoping to not have to do that.
258. # [01:58] <@dolske> ok. onload is still not useful, because we can be doing stuff well after onload fires.
259. # [01:58] <mrbkap> ?
260. # [01:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e224847eaf96 - Dave Hylands - Bug 990230 - Fix heap use-after-free in memory reporter. r=n.nethercote
261. # [01:58] <@dolske> onFormPassword can now handle pages that add password fields via JS at any time.
262. # [01:59] <@dolske> it's driven by an event fired when the first password field is added to a form.
263. # [01:59] <mrbkap> dolske: ok, I'll block in onFormPassword, then.
264. # [01:59] <@dolske> blocking sounds bad :)
265. # [02:00] <mrbkap> dolske: this is in the child.
266. # [02:00] <mrbkap> dolske: and we'll process click events and the like.
267. # [02:00] <seth> hmm, if we had a method nsSize.Invert(), what would you think it did?
268. # [02:00] <mrbkap> dolske: It won't be too horrible, then.
269. # [02:00] <mrbkap> dolske: (alternatively, I could only block onload if we haven't already fired it, but we can do tha tlater)
270. # [02:01] <seth> it'd be nice to have a method to compute the reciprocal of an nsSize, but Reciprocal() sounds like it returns a new value
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272. # [02:01] <seth> (i actually don't think it's natural for an 'nsSize' to have a reciprocal, but we end up using nsSizes as a pair of scalars in a lot of places, e.g. as scale factors)
273. # [02:02] <@dolske> mrbkap: perhaps a proof-of-concept patch would be the easiest way to discuss this :)
274. # [02:02] <mrbkap> dolske: ok, works for me.
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277. # [02:03] <@gavin> "blocking onload" sounds dangerous
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283. # [02:05] <mrbkap> gavin: why?
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285. # [02:05] <@gavin> because I'm missing all of the context, probably :)
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289. # [02:08] <@gavin> mrbkap: what does that mean? blocking it for whom?
290. # [02:09] <mrbkap> gavin: It means not firing the DOM event to the page until something else happens.
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292. # [02:09] <mrbkap> gavin: e.g. images block onload until the finish loading.
293. # [02:09] <@gavin> right, that's what I thought
294. # [02:09] <@gavin> that sounds scary
295. # [02:09] <mrbkap> why? :)
296. # [02:10] <@gavin> regressing "time to onload"
297. # [02:10] <@gavin> seems like that could be bad for perf, or at least perceived perf
298. # [02:11] <mrbkap> gavin: it'd only be for pages with forms, fwiw.
299. # [02:11] <@gavin> so like every page ever :)
300. # [02:12] <@gavin> I also don't understand why onload is relevant to autocomplete
301. # [02:12] <@gavin> but that goes back to me not understanding this issue
302. # [02:12] <mrbkap> gavin: We have tests that rely on the login manager having filled in the form by the time onload fires.
303. # [02:13] <@gavin> well it sounds like those tests should change
304. # [02:13] <@gavin> we should generally be filling forms well before onload
305. # [02:13] <@gavin> time-to-fill-in matters too
306. # [02:13] <@gavin> ask taras!
307. # [02:15] <@gavin> I guess I'm saying two things: 1) blocking onload (and thus causing web-exposed behavior changes) just to make tests work really doesn't feel right
308. # [02:15] <mrbkap> gavin: I expect that, in practice, the only place this actually matters is our tests.
309. # [02:15] <@gavin> and 2) if this is also regressing time-to-fill-in substantially, maybe we need to fix that
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312. # [02:16] <mrbkap> gavin: I don't think it's regressing it substantially. I think we're just making an additional trip to the event loop that we weren't doing before.
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314. # [02:16] <@gavin> yeah that makes sense
315. # [02:17] <@gavin> (it'd be cool to have a perf test that covers that though)
316. # [02:17] <@gavin> mrbkap: in any case it still feels like you're being too cavalier about the blocking onload thing
317. # [02:17] <@gavin> (it's also possible I'm being too paranoid)
318. # [02:18] <mrbkap> gavin: I'll spin the event loop.
319. # [02:18] <mrbkap> gavin: that should be equivalent to what we were doing before.
320. # [02:18] <@gavin> why can't we fix the tests some other way?
321. # [02:18] <@gavin> fire a chrome-only event on fill, have test watch that?
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323. # [02:18] <mrbkap> gavin: I guess it seems reasonable to me that we finish filling in the logins by onload.
324. # [02:19] <@gavin> well sure, like I said we should be filling them faster than that ideally
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326. # [02:19] <@gavin> but that argues for making filling fast, not delaying onload
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328. # [02:20] <mrbkap> gavin: I bet that an <img src="data:,"> is enough to "fix" this, though.
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330. # [02:20] <@gavin> I suppose the web might depend on this behavior
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332. # [02:21] <@gavin> I need to go
333. # [02:21] <mrbkap> ok
334. # [02:22] <mrbkap> I'll play around with a couple of things, I guess.
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375. # [02:51] <philor> whee, 10.8 is over 24 hours
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377. # [02:53] <philor> and, awesome, the try push where the leading edge of 10.8 is now is already on *aurora*
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379. # [02:54] <philor> next up? a patch which is already on *beta*
380. # [02:55] <philor> but don't worry, folks, it can't possibly be your responsibility to kill your pushes when they are no longer needed, can it?
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502. # [04:11] <RyanVM> man, what did you guys do to inbound while I was gone
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508. # [04:15] <Mardak> s
509. # [04:16] <Mardak> is there a good way to pull someone’s try push to add a commit on top of it and repush to try?
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511. # [04:16] <Mardak> i feel like hg is going to pull in everyone else’s try heads
512. # [04:16] <RyanVM> you can save the raw diff of the one cset and import it that way
513. # [04:16] <RyanVM> there's probably fancier ways of doing it, but I'm a practical kind of guy :)
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516. # [04:17] <jtcranmer> Mardak: hg pull -r <rev>
517. # [04:17] <Mardak> there’s multiple changesets here. does hgweb do a diff between changesets?
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519. # [04:18] <Mardak> jtcranmer: oh. that went much faster. i did -u -r and it was taking a really long time
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533. # [04:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2094871202f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 1e581e74878d, 7d2138e87ca0, and 7cc66aee4341 (bug 942367) for B2G mochitest failures.
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588. # [05:01] <Unfocused> RyanVM: i know, i'm sorry. one of the many things i've had no choice but to ignore lately - i just can't keep up :( if its too much of a problem, disable them
589. # [05:01] <RyanVM> Unfocused: i had to disable a few on osx debug today on aurora as part of the chunking landing there
590. # [05:02] <Unfocused> k
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593. # [05:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a24917a68821 - Ben Turner - Bug 980549 - Fix various races in settings and contacts, r=gwagner.
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667. # [06:05] <mjrosenb> so I'm trying to use e10s, is it possible to get the initial window that is created/restored to use e10s?
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669. # [06:06] <mjrosenb> evilpie: ^ ?
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679. # [06:18] <jdm> mjrosenb: set the pref, I think
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682. # [06:18] <jdm> mjrosenb: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/app/profile/firefox.js#1001
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691. # [06:23] <mjrosenb> ooh, that looks promising
692. # [06:23] <mjrosenb> i'll have to thank him when he gets back.
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705. # [06:33] <jesup> Hmmm. dyn.com is ending free access entirely in 30 days.
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781. # [08:01] <shu> i'm hitting strange bugs in windows where i'm using a bitfield with a enum
782. # [08:01] <shu> is that technically undefined behavior or something?
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784. # [08:02] <shu> (that is, the bugs go away if i stop using a bitfield)
785. # [08:03] <shu> oooh it might be because these enums end up being signed or something
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837. # [08:59] <dmajor> nrc++
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839. # [09:01] <nrc> hmm?
840. # [09:01] <nrc> what have I done?
841. # [09:01] <dmajor> rust for c++ developers
842. # [09:02] <nrc> oh good :-)
843. # [09:02] <nrc> I hope people like it and that I have the motivation to keep it going long enough to actually be useful
844. # [09:04] <dmajor> yeah, please continue, or else I'll never get past hello world :)
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846. # [09:05] <nrc> the good news is part 2 is half done already, don't hold your breath for part 3 :-p
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851. # [09:10] <dmajor> I'd love to see a document with concrete examples of what makes rust safer
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853. # [09:10] <dmajor> last time I read the docs (a while ago, I admit) I couldn't connect the dots from funny-variable-syntax to safety
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855. # [09:12] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
856. # [09:12] <nrc> hmm, I was just thinking that I may have jumped straight into the 'how' without touching on the 'why'
857. # [09:12] <nrc> not sure if it is better up front, or once I have explained a bunch of the concepts
858. # [09:13] <nrc> maybe I'll try and do it as I go along
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862. # [09:17] <Tomcat|afk> good morning Ms2ger
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869. # [09:20] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|afk, aren't you supposed to not be here? ;)
870. # [09:22] <Tomcat|afk> yep :)
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873. # [09:23] <Ms2ger> So we're welcome at the MoCo meeting now... Interesting
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877. # [09:24] <Tomcat|afk> yep a big Team Mozilla :)
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879. # [09:25] <Tomcat|afk> Ms2ger: also got a email after my post on yammer from someone interesting in sheriffing
880. # [09:25] <Tomcat|afk> so the new group on yammer payed off :)
881. # [09:25] <Ms2ger> That's nice
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901. # [09:50] <robuster> i have a question again
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905. # [09:53] <gcp> 0:06.04 /home/morbo/hg/mozilla-central/tools/profiler/LulCommonExt.h:200:18: error: typedef ‘type_must_be_complete’ locally defined but not used [-Werror=unused-local-typedefs]
906. # [09:53] <gcp> m-c bustage
907. # [09:53] <gcp> not on tbpl curiously
908. # [09:53] <robuster> If I load my own dll into firefox.exe, and from there load NSS3.dll and function 'SSL_VersionRangeSet'. When I call 'SSL_VersionRangeSet', would this be the same as if Firefox called the function directly or would Firefox not be affected by the call?
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910. # [09:54] <gcp> hmm, probably due to warnings-as-errors
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923. # [10:03] <Tomcat|afk> gcp: yeah tbpl seems fine
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925. # [10:03] <Tomcat|afk> even pgo builds
926. # [10:04] <Ms2ger> gcp, anything special in your mozconfig?
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930. # [10:05] <gcp> warnings-as-errors + gcc 4.8 is the cause I think
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969. # [10:29] <NeilAway> jesup: they "lost" my business when they started requiring monthly logins for free accounts while only giving a few days' expiry warning
970. # [10:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/45d9d4a20b13 - Joe Walker - Bug 993985 - Fix broken tooltip in Developer Toolbar; r=mratcliffe
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1070. # [12:10] <jez> looks like this does what I want: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm#importRelative%28%29
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1180. # [13:56] <RealRaven> Hello, is it possible to define -moz-image-region for a notificaiton message icon?
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1182. # [13:57] <RealRaven> I trioed for botht he image itself and the parent but it is being ignored: notification[value="quickpasswords-changeprompt.repairFields"] image.messageImage
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1184. # [13:57] <RealRaven> notification[value="quickpasswords-changeprompt.password"] hbox
1185. # [13:58] <Yoric> If I call DumpJSStack() from a Debugger on Firefox launched from the Mac OS X Dock, where will the message be printed?
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1187. # [13:58] <RealRaven> it always shows the whole image. Is there way I can change this?
1188. # [13:58] <Yoric> More generally, where's stderr on a Mac for a Firefox not launched from the console?
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1204. # [14:16] <KaiRo> RealRaven: IIRC, if it's defined with list-style-image you can use -moz-image-region, but if it's a background-image, you need other tricks
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1209. # [14:23] <Yoric> Does anyone know what the Analysis Helper threads are?
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1220. # [14:31] <RealRaven> KaiRo: i think I use the normal notificaiton intrface and pass in the icon url
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1224. # [14:33] <KaiRo> RealRaven: oh, then I think you are out of luck, basically
1225. # [14:33] * KaiRo strongly dislikes non-theme-set images, given he is a full-theme add-on designer
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1229. # [14:35] <Yoric> Anybody familiar with lldb?
1230. # [14:35] * KaiRo is, from that POV, also really unhappy with modern Firefox theming due to all the preprocessing stuff, but also feeling pretty OK about Australis
1231. # [14:36] <Yoric> I am inspecting mozilla::dom::workers::WorkerPrivate::DoRunLoop(JSContext*)
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1233. # [14:36] <Yoric> And I'd like to look at the JSContext* argument.
1234. # [14:36] <Yoric> How do I look at an anonymous argument?
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1237. # [14:38] <Yoric> (frame variable won't show anything)
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1239. # [14:39] <jez> I've got some strange behaviour going on; I just build seamonkey, and I'm deleting the "importRelative" function from modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm, yet my extensions are still able to use XPCOMUtils.importRelative() without error. Is some kind of JSM caching going on?
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1241. # [14:41] <RealRaven> KaiRo: I made a "australis skin" for my QuickPasswords addon. Stefano added support in FT deepdark. Care to do the same ;-) ?
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1246. # [14:43] <NeilAway> !seen mrbkap
1247. # [14:43] <firebot> mrbkap was last seen 12 hours, 21 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'I'll play around with a couple of things, I guess.' in #developers.
1248. # [14:43] <KaiRo> RealRaven: no time to do stuff for add-ons, my very tight spare time I have for theme work all usually runs into just keeping up with Firefox theme changes
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1250. # [14:44] <RealRaven> KaiRo: no problem. I added .australis classes to my overlay so that users can still switch back to colors if they like. (I prefer colored icons myself as well)]
1251. # [14:44] <KaiRo> and due to their heavy use of proprocessing, that job is harder and takes longer than previously
1252. # [14:44] <RealRaven> KaiRo: I have no idea how they pulled off the rounded tabs
1253. # [14:44] <KaiRo> RealRaven: well, my theme is quite radical anyhow
1254. # [14:44] <RealRaven> KaiRo: which one is it?
1255. # [14:45] <KaiRo> RealRaven: LCARStrek
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1257. # [14:45] <RealRaven> KaiRo: aha. I have reviewed that for AMO before :)
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1259. # [14:45] <KaiRo> RealRaven: the rounded tabs were a lot of work - getting the shape in place isn't even *that* hard, but getting it pixel-perfect and performant took them a lot of time
1260. # [14:46] <RealRaven> KaiRo: we have it in THunderbird
1261. # [14:46] <RealRaven> for a long time now
1262. # [14:46] <KaiRo> RealRaven: what?
1263. # [14:46] <RealRaven> (2 releases)
1264. # [14:47] <RealRaven> I think since 24.2 or 24.1 - Paenglab did the integration work
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1266. # [14:47] <KaiRo> Thunderbird might have some form of rounded tabs, but not the actual Australis tabs
1267. # [14:47] <WG9s> is it just me? or are downloads no longer showing up in about:downlaods?
1268. # [14:47] <WG9s> oops wrong channel
1269. # [14:47] <RealRaven> KaiRo: Maybe not, but they look like it :) I am sure the new AUstralis will eventually be merged back in
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1271. # [14:48] <KaiRo> RealRaven: well, maybe Thunderbird has some older, less performant version of them - given that people don't have tons of tabs in TB and performance is not something TB is good at anyhow, it may not matter as much there
1272. # [14:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ad6cc6b98a9d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset a24917a68821 (bug 980549) for Gaia unit test and Gaia UI test failures. a=backout
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1276. # [14:50] <RealRaven> KaiRo: true I only have around 10 r so...
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1279. # [14:51] <KaiRo> RealRaven: right - and 10 are probably already a lot for TB
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1283. # [14:55] <RealRaven> KaiRo: not really from a performance point of view, but since there is no Tabmix plus or scrolling it may get a little crowded
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1285. # [14:56] <RealRaven> I uaually have messages I want to read later in their own tab so there are always 3 or 4 there
1286. # [14:56] <KaiRo> ah, that makes sense, yes
1287. # [14:56] <RealRaven> I think this is probably its biggest advantage over outlook/. when you start a new session you loose everything
1288. # [14:57] <KaiRo> well, I use SeaMonkey, which doesn't have session restore for mailnews ;-)
1289. # [14:57] <KaiRo> and I use SM only for mailnews, bascially - and FF as main browser
1290. # [14:57] <RealRaven> KaiRo: yes that is a bit of a bummer. Otherwise I quite like it
1291. # [14:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7af4241ce919 - Tim Taubert - Bug 996159 - Fix sync config section on Windows with 125% DPI. r=gavin
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1293. # [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/20ec0888f632 - Patrick Brosset - Bug 986284 - Intermittent browser_inspector_bug_952294_tooltips_dimensions.js; r=miker
1294. # [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8f2f17f5ab23 - Brad Lassey - bug 996358 - Add flags to keep tab streaming from going to Beta or Release r=mfinkle
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1296. # [14:58] <RealRaven> BUt I am working on a new QuickFolders feature which I will call the "reading list"
1297. # [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6d1315e1a026 - Patrick Brosset - Bug 825427 - Intermittent browser_responsiveruleview.js; r=miker
1298. # [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/45d9d4a20b13 - Joe Walker - Bug 993985 - Fix broken tooltip in Developer Toolbar; r=mratcliffe
1299. # [14:58] <KaiRo> RealRaven: restore for SM mailnews tabs could be done, but the whole Sm project is desparately in need of contributors
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1301. # [14:59] <RealRaven> KaiRo: don't look my way, much too busy with my Addons and keeping them compatible with Tb, Sm + postbox
1302. # [14:59] <KaiRo> RealRaven: hehe
1303. # [14:59] <RealRaven> KaiRo: I think the first thing I would like is a Javascript implementation for the folder tree. It is impossible to style at the moment
1304. # [15:00] <RealRaven> (I added customizable icons in THunderbird)
1305. # [15:01] <RealRaven> I also like that fact that folder properties persist automatically in Tb (not sure if they do in SeaMonkey, as I haven't tried)
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1316. # [15:13] <jesup> We should use gcc with a patch to bring this feature back: http://feross.org/gcc-ownage/
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1318. # [15:14] <froydnj> then our developers wouldn't get anything done, they'd be too busy playing nethack when they tried to start firefox
1319. # [15:15] <jesup> found via http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/buggy-security-guidance-from-apple/#more-1677
1320. # [15:16] <jesup> Most devs probably have never seen NetHack ;-) I still play once in a blue moon (most often on the yearly online competition around Halloween)
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1341. # [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8d01c95be03 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 907352 - Part 2: Backwards-compatible facingMode constraint on mobile. r=mt, r=drno
1342. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5fa0c8f5ccb2 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 907352 - Part 1: Update to most recent constraints syntax. r=mt
1343. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5bffd7d60c5 - Anuj Agarwal - Bug 897359 - Remove unimplemented popChallengeResponse, random, and disableRightClick methods. r=bz
1344. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df8e7a4b86cf - Anuj Agarwal - Bug 984467 - Replace GetNativeOfWrapper + QI bit with xpc::WindowOrNull(scope). r=bz
1345. # [15:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a6a7df40f00a - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 997239 - Convert webconsole to a module. r=msucan
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1351. # [15:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: gonna uplift a bunch of those test fixes you've been landing
1352. # [15:47] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: go for it
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1397. # [16:12] <mkaply> Does the Google I/O site hang anyone else's Firefox? - https://www.google.com/events/io
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1428. # [16:33] <mkaply> Ms2ger: Yeah, that was quite a big change (the MoCo thing)
1429. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> I guess I should attend once, at least
1430. # [16:33] <Tomcat-mobile> I think its great more openess and Teamwork
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1434. # [16:35] <sewardj_> froydnj: around?
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1437. # [16:35] <froydnj> sewardj_: pong
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1442. # [16:36] <Tomcat-mobile> And sorry Ms2ger i'm still around :-)
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1444. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> Heh
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1484. # [17:09] <evilpie> do you have mocomoco meetins now?
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1508. # [17:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: well that didn't go so well - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Esr24
1509. # [17:30] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: doh
1510. # [17:31] <froydnj> guess that'd be bug 995995
1511. # [17:31] <froydnj> maybe prefs_general.js doesn't get run through python's formatting on esr or something?
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1531. # [17:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah, guess not
1532. # [17:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> every other tree is fine
1533. # [17:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: whatever
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1547. # [17:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k, I'm heading off. FYI, no full-time sheriff coverage the rest of the day, so please an eye on your pushes.
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1554. # [17:50] <jtcranmer> isn't that a recipe for failure?
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1556. # [17:52] <bjacob_> jtcranmer: i call that fun
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1560. # [17:53] <hub> Canada is on holiday anyway
1561. # [17:53] <hub> and Taipei has already finished their week
1562. # [17:54] <hub> and I think Europe is already mostly done
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1564. # [17:54] <jtcranmer> and Mountain View is just getting into the office
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1568. # [17:57] <evilpie> at least some parts of europe have a holiday
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1597. # [18:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/167291c2fd24 - Honza Bambas - Bug 992878 - Increase number of expected assertions in test_bug437844.xul DONTBUILD, r=dbaron
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1606. # [18:19] <Mossop> Is GC likely to be particularly slow in ASAN builds?
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1612. # [18:22] <terrence> probably? it has to touch the whole heap after all
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1618. # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b91748a1b6da - Steven Michaud - Bug 988156 - Backout fd0d0f6002dc (Bug 846566) for triggering blank display in Netflix videos when going fullscreen. r=spohl
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1627. # [18:33] <Mossop> terrence: Know if there is any convenient way to log when GC is happening?
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1630. # [18:35] <terrence> Mossop: javascript.options.mem.log will dump gc info to the browser console
1631. # [18:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf31dec6639a - Terrence Cole - Bug 807168 - Make JSTracer into a real C++ class and kill the macro accessors; r=jonco,mccr8
1632. # [18:35] <Mossop> terrence: Does that show in tbpl logs?
1633. # [18:35] <terrence> Mossop: no
1634. # [18:36] <terrence> Mossop: there is also a way to get those stats dumped to a file and to get the file uploaded, but I haven't done that personally
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1636. # [18:36] <terrence> Mossop: sadly sfink is on vacation... he told me about some trick to get any arbitrary file you've written uploaded as part of the build, but I don't remember :-(
1637. # [18:37] <Mossop> Looks like that only logs at the end of GC anyway, really I want a message then GC is starting and then when finished
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1640. # [18:39] <nemo> Ms2ger: I guess this is kinda obvious, but you seem to enjoy CSS stuff. http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase373.xhtml
1641. # [18:39] <Mossop> I guess I get to read some GC code!
1642. # [18:39] <nemo> Ms2ger: was something that used to be a bit more convoluted to do, and just nice that CSS3 makes it simple
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1649. # [18:43] <mccr8> Mossop: are you only concerned about the main thread?
1650. # [18:43] <Mossop> mccr8: I think so
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1652. # [18:43] <terrence> Mossop: maybe put a printf in the GC_START callback?
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1654. # [18:44] <mccr8> Mossop: ok. so you can edit XPCJSRuntime::CustomGCCallback. In the status == JSGC_BEGIN case, print something like "the GC is beginning!" and then add a case for status == JSGC_END to print out whatever for when the GC ends
1655. # [18:44] <mccr8> that's in js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSRuntime.cpp
1656. # [18:44] <Mossop> Ah excellent. Thanks
1657. # [18:44] <mccr8> I think that's the easiest way to do it.
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1660. # [18:44] <Mossop> Also found this which looks intriguing http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/gc/Statistics.cpp#515
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1662. # [18:45] <mccr8> yeah that could work, too, though then you'll get worker GCs in there too which can be weird.
1663. # [18:45] <terrence> Mossop: that's the start timer for the thing we log at the end of gc
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1670. # [18:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c26b2de39a80 - Terrence Cole - Bug 807168 - Followup to fix build failure with clang; r=bustage-fix
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1678. # [18:52] <@bz> http://blog.meldium.com/home/2014/4/10/testing-for-reverse-heartbleed is just awesome
1679. # [18:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f7320bbfb006 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 997382 - The tab label and close button shouldn't be animated in closing tabs. r=jaws
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1681. # [18:54] <froydnj> nice
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1687. # [18:59] <nemo> hmmm
1688. # [18:59] <nemo> http://www.css3.info/preview/background-origin-and-background-clip/
1689. # [18:59] <nemo> "This value has been removed from the latest development version of the spec."
1690. # [18:59] <nemo> oh I hope not :(
1691. # [18:59] <Waldo> uh, that can't be right
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1693. # [19:00] <nemo> I've been using it in places other than that most recent thingy I posted earlier
1694. # [19:00] <Waldo> er, oh
1695. # [19:00] <Waldo> just clip
1696. # [19:00] <Waldo> er
1697. # [19:00] <Waldo> no, background-clip is pretty old, that's gotta be wrong
1698. # [19:00] <nemo> ok
1699. # [19:00] <nemo> Waldo: well. http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase373.xhtml seems to work fine in all browsers soo
1700. # [19:00] <nemo> guess I won't worry 'bout it
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1722. # [19:18] <Mossop> Do the asan tests run on the debug or opt asan build?
1723. # [19:18] <mrbkap> NeilAway: ?
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1731. # [19:22] <Waldo> "(I *think* I closed all my midget-related tabs before this.)" bug 988619 comment 4 :-)
1732. # [19:23] <mccr8> Mossop: ASAN is run on TBPL in opt
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1735. # [19:23] <Mossop> mccr8: Thanks
1736. # [19:23] <Waldo> man, that commenter's awesome
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1738. # [19:23] <Waldo> "I might have a bit of a 'tab problem' (honest I can quit any time)."
1739. # [19:24] <mccr8> Mossop: hmm, yeah it is not great that it just says "linux x64 ASAN". :)
1740. # [19:24] <Mossop> mccr8: Yeah, and builds opt and debug builds in there
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1748. # [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7ff9b89a3781 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1749. # [19:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/5bcb816bb6ff - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1750. # [19:32] <NeilAway> mrbkap: you're the sort of person who'd do things with sandboxes and XBL...
1751. # [19:32] <NeilAway> mrbkap: any recent bugs I should know about?
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1754. # [19:37] <NeilAway> bz++
1755. # [19:37] <mrbkap> NeilAway: Not that I know of.
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1757. # [19:38] <philor> ochameau: aurora b2g desktop windows is unhappy about building the simulator addon, and closed over its unhappiness
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1760. # [19:39] <@bz> NeilAway: ?
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1763. # [19:39] <NeilAway> bz: reverse heartbleed link
1764. # [19:40] <NeilAway> mrbkap: I'm getting "Permission denied to access property 'appendChild'"
1765. # [19:41] <NeilAway> mrbkap: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/feeds/src/FeedWriter.js#966
1766. # [19:42] <NeilAway> bz: btw, regarding loading that 0.5MB script, as a <xul:script> it takes 20s on my unoptimised build, using the subscript loader takes <1s (wall timing so limited accuracy)
1767. # [19:42] <NeilAway> bz: and that's with or without the XUL cache
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1771. # [19:44] <NeilAway> bz: randomly breaking into the debugger suggests it's spending time cloning regexp objects but I don't have a useful profiling setup
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1773. # [19:45] <@bz> NeilAway: Please file bugs?
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1784. # [19:48] <NeilAway> bz: hmm, actually, I could try using xperf
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1789. # [19:51] <marshall_law> has anyone run into test harness errors on try / tbpl for gaia unit tests?
1790. # [19:51] <marshall_law> main.py: error: no such option: --symbols-path
1791. # [19:51] <marshall_law> trying to build against gaia 1.3
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1800. # [19:54] <jryans> philor|afk: i think ochameau is out, should i try to construct a minimal revert to get aurora tree open again?
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1847. # [20:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3587048a9fd - Dan Gohman - Bug 998170 - IonMonkey: Eliminate LPhi's numInputs_ member. r=nbp
1848. # [20:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b46a88e69236 - Dan Gohman - Bug 998172 - SpiderMonkey: Eliminate unnecessary parentheses around return values. r=nbp
1849. # [20:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b771f66230b0 - Dan Gohman - Bug 998156 - IonMonkey: Misc RangeAnslysis code cleanups. r=nbp
1850. # [20:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76e21dbec835 - Dan Gohman - Bug 998167 - IonMonkey: Fix signed integer undefined behavior r=nbp
1851. # [20:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/898d176bfd22 - Dan Gohman - Bug 998173 - SpiderMonkey: Harmonize x86 and x64's MacroAssembler finish functions. r=bbouvier
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1914. # [21:02] <fabrice> bholley: any chance to get a rebased version of bug 990353 on 1.3/1.3t ? I't like to test
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1920. # [21:03] <@smaug> fabrice: will tarako use b2g1.3 ?
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1924. # [21:04] <@smaug> or, in other words, which gecko version
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1928. # [21:05] <fabrice> smaug: yes, 1.3t
1929. # [21:05] <fabrice> which is gecko 28
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1960. # [21:20] <bholley> fabrice: I'm getting back to it after lunch
1961. # [21:20] <bholley> fabrice: what's the timeline like?
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1964. # [21:21] <bholley> fabrice: (send mail if it's urgent)
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2010. # [21:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d9fb05d9d12 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 987406 - Pass certificate_path to B2G mochitests, r=ahal
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2026. # [21:51] <kgrandon1> Is anyone aware of any changes that may have caused a few APIs to stop functioning in Firefox Nightly? (Specifically mozSettings and mozApps while we are setting the prefs to expose them in gaia.)
2027. # [21:51] <kgrandon1> bent: fabrice ^^
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2031. # [21:53] <fabrice> kgrandon1: no idea. That's very strange
2032. # [21:54] <fabrice> kgrandon1: but that should be easy to bisect
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2038. # [21:57] <kgrandon1> fabrice: yeah, i guess i will start the bisecting process… but maybe someone might know if something big landed that would impact this :)
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2044. # [22:01] <bent> kgrandon1, nothing comes to mind
2045. # [22:01] <hub> if you figure changes in lockscreen, I have b2g desktop that fail with make test-perf
2046. # [22:03] <shu> Waldo: can we use strongly typed enums in the code base?
2047. # [22:03] <Waldo> shu: via the TypedEnum.h macros, sure
2048. # [22:03] <shu> Waldo: \o/
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2050. # [22:03] <Waldo> shu: not really otherwise, not without a bunch of compiler-specific macros, tho
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2097. # [22:32] <@bz> hmm
2098. # [22:32] <@bz> on current xcode, do we not need to explicitly install command line tools?
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2103. # [22:35] <drno> bz: latest Xcode: yes
2104. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8300867f3f2 - Douglas Crosher - Land bug 996883. r=mjrosenb
2105. # [22:36] <drno> I think you can't even install it any more from the Xcode UI any more as an add-on, but you have to manually downloaded and install as a separate package
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2107. # [22:38] <@bz> drno: hmmm
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2109. # [22:38] <drno> bz: that was with Xcode 5.x when I installed it on my new Mac. I was unable to locate the command line add-on in the UI
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2111. # [22:39] <@bz> yeah, I don't see it there
2112. # [22:40] <@bz> but I see lldb/gcc...
2113. # [22:40] * @bz is not sure what the other command line tools are
2114. # [22:40] <@bz> (see clang too)
2115. # [22:40] <NeilAway> mrbkap: maybe I'm confusing you with someone else who works in the same area of code, but who might that be?
2116. # [22:41] <drno> bz: ahh maybe they just renamed it
2117. # [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bf1470a6677e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
2118. # [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/dc1ebcb9eb4e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 3 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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2123. # [22:49] <RealRaven> is htere any way programmatcially to find out which theme is currently activated?
2124. # [22:49] <RealRaven> (full themes only)
2125. # [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45a45f4a228f - Mark Finkle - Bug 946454 - [Roku] Show 'casting' button in the video controls r=wesj, dolske
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2149. # [23:00] <gandalf> if mutationobserver is set on document before interactive, should the callback fired on nodes that are in body be fired before they're injected into DOM (and made visible)?
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2151. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5c8763cd059d - Edward Lee - Bug 998163 - 8% Tp5 Optimized regression on inbound for most all platforms [r=adw]
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2165. # [23:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f8118ec22ed9 - Danny Chen - Bug 495593 - Video controls should match scaled video size within video element. r=jaws
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2180. # [23:15] <bholley> fabrice: what is the timeline on tarako?
2181. # [23:15] <bholley> fabrice: is the urgency here in hours, or days?
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2183. # [23:16] <mrbkap> Who does Android platform stuff these days?
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2185. # [23:17] <mrbkap> blassey: Do you know if we ever turned on SMS support for Fennec?
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2187. # [23:17] <blassey> mrbkap: no, we didn't
2188. # [23:18] <mmc> hey gps, i'm getting this error with ./mach rbt: ERROR: Error creating review request: The repository path specified is not in the list of known repositories (HTTP 400, API Error 206)
2189. # [23:18] <blassey> its behind build flags
2190. # [23:18] <blassey> mrbkap: well... technically not true
2191. # [23:18] <blassey> we had it on for 2 weeks of a beta
2192. # [23:18] <blassey> by accident
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2194. # [23:18] <mrbkap> blassey: Right. That's what I thought.
2195. # [23:18] <mrbkap> blassey: So a bug in MobileMessageManager.cpp should only affect b2g at this point?
2196. # [23:19] <bholley> fabrice: also, I want to get bug 993772 on the tarako radar
2197. # [23:19] <blassey> mrbkap: as far as shipping code
2198. # [23:19] <bholley> fabrice: how do I do that?
2199. # [23:19] <blassey> we do plan to turn it on eventually
2200. # [23:19] <fabrice> bholley: tarako needs to be done end of next week
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2202. # [23:19] <mrbkap> blassey: Great.
2203. # [23:19] <blassey> but we can cross that bridge when we get there
2204. # [23:19] <fabrice> so it's really the sooner the better
2205. # [23:19] <bjacob_> Waldo: ping
2206. # [23:19] <blassey> I assume that won't be the only thing broken
2207. # [23:19] <Waldo> bjacob_: pong
2208. # [23:20] <bjacob_> Waldo: regarding the circular include on bug 987290
2209. # [23:20] <bholley> fabrice: got it. Does it make a difference to you whether I get you the patch in 1 hour or 3 hours?
2210. # [23:20] <bholley> fabrice: there were oranges on the try run that I need to sort out
2211. # [23:21] <fabrice> bholley: no, 3 hours is great
2212. # [23:21] <bholley> fabrice: ok, cool
2213. # [23:21] <bjacob_> Waldo: note that it only exists in the legacy path, when c++11 enum class is not supported. so it might go away soon. It does buy us something: it keeps TypedEnum.h small, and concerned with only one thing, implementing enum classes until we can assume c++11 support
2214. # [23:21] <bholley> fabrice: what branch do I rebase onto?
2215. # [23:21] <fabrice> bholley: what will bug 993772 give us?
2216. # [23:21] <bholley> fabrice: memory savings. It's hard for me to know how much on b2g
2217. # [23:21] <fabrice> bholley: 1.3t, https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-b2g28_v1_3t/
2218. # [23:21] <bholley> fabrice: does b2g use XUL at all?
2219. # [23:21] <fabrice> bholley: is it risky?
2220. # [23:21] <bholley> fabrice: I mean, it must to _some_ degree
2221. # [23:22] <bholley> fabrice: and it certainly uses XBL
2222. # [23:22] <bjacob_> Waldo: when we switch to assuming c++11 support, we can remove TypedEnum.h, and then, only the users who need it keep including TypedEnumBits.h. By contrast, if we move this stuff into TypedEnum.h, then its harder to tell which #includes we can remove when we start assuming c++11 support
2223. # [23:22] <bholley> fabrice: it's hard to say. I'm about to push it to inbound. I just think someone should measure. It's possible that it could save something on the order of a megabyte
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2227. # [23:23] <fabrice> bholley: \o/
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2230. # [23:23] <bholley> fabrice: but it depends how many XBL/XUL globals actually get used in b2g
2231. # [23:24] <bholley> fabrice: it's definitely some, but maybe not many
2232. # [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9069ad3a0869 - Edward Lee - Bug 998387 - Middle click on newtab block button blocks the site [r=me]
2233. # [23:24] <bholley> fabrice: on desktop, it saves us ~30 compartments at startup
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2235. # [23:24] <fabrice> bholley: yep, not that many I think on b2g. I'll test anyway
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2237. # [23:24] <bholley> fabrice: I'm about to push rebased patches to try
2238. # [23:24] <bholley> just doing a local build
2239. # [23:25] <fabrice> ok, great stuff
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2241. # [23:25] <bholley> fabrice: do you want me to email you a patch bundle?
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2243. # [23:25] <bholley> fabrice: or do you want to just scrape the try push?
2244. # [23:25] <fabrice> bholley: patch bundle is easier if it's one of your zillions-part patches ;)
2245. # [23:25] <bholley> fabrice: ok, will do
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2250. # [23:26] <Waldo> bjacob_: the only dependencies are the detection macros, right? what about if we move that into a new TypedEnumDetection.h header that both can include?
2251. # [23:27] <Waldo> bjacob_: well, that plus some forward declarations of classes
2252. # [23:28] <bjacob_> Waldo: not sure what you mean with " the only dependencies are the detection macros, right?' . The legacy path in TypedEnum.h needs TypedEnumBits.h to have a definition of CastableTypedEnumResult
2253. # [23:28] <NeilAway> RealRaven: ask the addon manager... I'm not sure if there's a call to find the current theme directly, or whether you need to look to see which one isn't disabled
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2263. # [23:31] <Waldo> bjacob_: okay, so the detection bits, and CTER as well, then, would go in TypedEnumGuts.h
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2266. # [23:33] <Waldo> bjacob_: I agree that a single header isn't desirable, all else equal
2267. # [23:33] <jesup> fabrice: mq patch repos on hg.mozilla.org are so much nicer than mailing them around....
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2269. # [23:34] <Waldo> bjacob_: circular includes are probably worse :-)
2270. # [23:34] <bjacob_> Waldo: oh i see what you mean: TypedEnumBits.h only needs TypedEnum.h for detection. OK. Do you want me to introduce a third header, as you describe, to avoid any circular include ?
2271. # [23:34] <Waldo> bjacob_: yeah, please do so
2272. # [23:34] <bjacob_> Waldo: ok
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2284. # [23:45] <bjacob_> Waldo: TypedEnumInternal.h ? TypedEnumShared.h ?
2285. # [23:46] <Waldo> bjacob_: internal works fine, maybe will discourage direct use, but it doesn't really matter :-)
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2288. # [23:46] <bjacob_> Waldo: ok
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2291. # [23:47] <nemo> You know, I really agree w/ the comments here
2292. # [23:47] <nemo> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-metro-ui,26317.html
2293. # [23:47] <nemo> which were same I read everywhere when Metro was abandoned
2294. # [23:47] <nemo> The problem was Windows users had no idea it existed
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2297. # [23:48] <nemo> The fact that chrome has an option to "relaunch in windows 8 mode" sounds like a nice idea. package metro along with standard windows 8, see who enables it?
2298. # [23:48] <nemo> maybe with a notice that it is beta and an easy "switch back" button or something
2299. # [23:48] <nemo> oh well. is dead. whatever. and isn't like I have Windows 8 installed anywhere except a beta in one VM anyway
2300. # [23:49] <jaws> orange on fx-team, i'm backing out now
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