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- # Session Start: Wed Apr 30 00:00:00 2014
- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:03] <@dbaron> Is there a responding-to-feedback-from-Australis-launch IRC channel somewhere?
- # [00:04] <@dbaron> And does it care about thinks like tweets from prominent non-tech-press like https://twitter.com/kdrum/status/461213946796867585 ?
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- # [00:07] <@gavin> dbaron: he might be upset that the customization possibilities changed
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- # [00:11] <@dbaron> sorry, 3 irc conversations at once and I can't think about any of them due to the 3 in-person conversations happening right next to me
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- # [00:14] <hub> not the first person I hear complaining about less customization
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- # [00:15] <Optimizer> any change is possibly likely to bother someone's workflow
- # [00:16] <Optimizer> (in a bad way)
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- # [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/253acf385229 - Wes Johnston - Bug 998063 - Support media:thumbnail in feed parser. r=mak
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- # [00:31] <jez> Optimizer: you really think it's just "change" people are complaining about? not an actual reduction in customizability, breakage of their existing layouts, forcing tabs-on-top, breakage of their extensions and themes, etc.?
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- # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f47828dfc82d - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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- # [00:33] <@smaug> jez: reduction in customizability?
- # [00:33] <jez> smaug: absolutely
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- # [00:33] <@smaug> I wonder what is reduced
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- # [00:34] <jez> smaug: i'll just point you to my slashdot post: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5097997&cid=46871453
- # [00:34] <@smaug> perhaps I've been using Australis long enough
- # [00:34] <jez> oh, and that post didnt mention "no addon bar"
- # [00:35] <@smaug> jez: that comment has plenty oh bs
- # [00:35] <@smaug> "- Bye-bye bookmarks and history sidebars" ?
- # [00:35] <jez> i also checked, and "classic compact" theme and "status 4 evar" are incompatible with 29. it looks like 200k users are going to get their major addons disabled upon upgrade.
- # [00:35] <@smaug> "- Adios Stop button"
- # [00:35] <jez> smaug: well, the buttons for the sidebars
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- # [00:36] <@smaug> ah, didn't even know there use to be such
- # [00:37] <@smaug> oh well, change is always hard
- # [00:37] * philor wishes the bookmarks sidebar would go away, every time the B key gets too close to the V
- # [00:37] <@smaug> oh yes
- # [00:37] <@smaug> I wish we'll kill sidebars
- # [00:37] <jez> sidebars are one of the best inventions of mozilla
- # [00:38] <jez> you can rearrange your bookmarks outside of a popup, without losing the tabbed browsing view
- # [00:38] <@smaug> invented by MS or Netscape
- # [00:38] <@smaug> can't recall which one invented them
- # [00:38] <jez> dunno
- # [00:38] <jez> but they rock. i'm very happy with seamonkey's all-in-one sidebar
- # [00:38] <@smaug> I think it was MS
- # [00:38] <jez> also makes it much easier for me to customize Stylish rules
- # [00:39] <nemo> man. the more I read http://featherweightmusings.blogspot.com/2014/04/rust-for-c-programmers-part-4-unique.html
- # [00:39] <nemo> the more I want rust 1.0
- # [00:39] <jez> but hey, if the UX team were introducing sidebars, i'm sure you'd say "change is always hard" and love the sidebars. so whatever :-P
- # [00:39] <@smaug> no
- # [00:39] <@smaug> I haven't found any good use case for sidebars
- # [00:39] <nemo> I do wish github was capable of bug charting so I could see how the open bugs against 1.0 milestone were progressing over time
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- # [00:40] <nemo> smaug: chat?
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- # [00:40] <jez> smaug: whatever. i have and so have thousands
- # [00:41] <seth> sidebars seem useful to me but i confess i'm a little surprised anyone would miss e.g. text on toolbar icons
- # [00:41] <jaws> where is the code for keyboard navigation of context menus?
- # [00:41] <seth> back in the 90s and early 2000s that was one of the first things i would disable
- # [00:41] <jaws> philor: me too
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- # [00:42] <@smaug> jaws: like arrow button handling?
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- # [00:42] <nemo> seth: text on toolbar icons is useful for like the first few weeks of learning an app
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- # [00:42] <nemo> seth: good for noobs
- # [00:42] <seth> nemo: i always thought that's what tooltips were for
- # [00:42] <jaws> smaug: like if i press the Down key, and the selected item moves focus to the next item in the menu
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- # [00:42] <nemo> seth: heh. assuming noob even knows to use a tooltip
- # [00:42] <nemo> seth: but even then, slows the poor noob down even more
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- # [00:43] <seth> nemo: consider it an incentive for the noob to learn =)
- # [00:43] <nemo> huh. my FF nightly in "customise" has "new e10s" window. cool
- # [00:43] <nemo> when did that show up?
- # [00:43] <cpeterson> nemo: today!
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- # [00:43] <nemo> nifty
- # [00:43] <jez> seth: i like having big ff3-style toolbar buttons. what makes *me* a little surprised is why people want to take away customizability so i can enable them.
- # [00:43] <jaws> smaug: i want to place some xul:menuitems to appear horizontally adjacent. i placed them in a xul:hbox, and they do appear as i'd like. but the keyboard focus never goes inside of the <hbox>
- # [00:44] <@smaug> just a sec
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- # [00:44] <cpeterson> nemo: the "Open new e10s window" menu item existed in the File menu for a couple weeks, but apparently Windows and Linux are more likely to use the "hamburger/customize" menu than OS X users (because the OS X menu bar is always visible).
- # [00:45] <cpeterson> *Windows and Linux users
- # [00:45] <seth> jez: i don't disagree with that. some of these really seem conceptually like something a theme should do, though. i'm honestly not sure whether firefox themes have the power to do things like add toolbar icon text, though
- # [00:45] <jez> nemo: you're criticizing an interface for catering to noobs? what do you think Australis is for?
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- # [00:45] <jez> seth: themes don't.
- # [00:45] <nemo> jez: um. maybe you're directing that at the wrong person?
- # [00:45] <nemo> jez: I was arguing *for* the text as noob helpful
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- # [00:45] <jez> oh
- # [00:45] <nemo> but just, you know, to offer a usecase
- # [00:45] <jez> well im not a noob and i still like it, because the big buttons give me a big target to click
- # [00:46] <nemo> jez: btw, I think keeping the app inline w/ whatever the OS does is more noob friendly than australis, but whatever.
- # [00:46] <jez> and i actually have a monitor with a decent resolution so i dont need "vertical real estate"
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- # [00:46] <nemo> jez: I'm not a huge australis fan, but I do clean test profiles a lot, so I've given up on changing it back in those. changed it in my main profile
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- # [00:47] <jez> changing what?
- # [00:47] <nemo> jez: just like the !@#$ "hide-the-http" trimUrls which screws up my copy and pastes to this day
- # [00:47] <nemo> jez: the australis default
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- # [00:47] <jez> you can't "change it back"
- # [00:47] <nemo> trimurls - the only browser that got that right was opera
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- # [00:47] <nemo> jez: I mean enabling the File menu
- # [00:47] <jez> you can just change it to something perhaps-less-crappy
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- # [00:48] <nemo> jez: just enable the menu bar
- # [00:48] <nemo> good enough
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- # [00:48] <jez> :-)
- # [00:49] <nemo> jez: yes. I have that in my main profile, not in any marked "tmp" and I have like "tmp1 tmp2 tmp3 tmp4" :)
- # [00:49] <jez> not that my browser is Firefox
- # [00:49] <nemo> lol
- # [00:49] <nemo> wrong channel maybe?
- # [00:49] <@smaug> jaws: nsXULPopupManager::HandleKeyboardNavigation
- # [00:49] <nemo> jez: oh. seamonkey perhaps
- # [00:49] <jaws> smaug: thanks!
- # [00:49] <jez> yep.
- # [00:49] <@smaug> jaws: I think you want that
- # [00:49] <nemo> jez: still use seamonkey on one machine
- # [00:50] <nemo> jez: amusingly, that machine now has a gig of ram, and I still compile it using gentoo
- # [00:50] <nemo> I keep expecting that to fail, any day now
- # [00:50] <jez> seamonkey's a dream come true. i got round to updating my theme and extension the other day, and i had basically zero UI changes to worry about
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- # [00:50] <nemo> jez: yeah that part is nice
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- # [00:50] <jez> back when i was developing FF stuff i would spend days going through a million CSS and XUL changes they had made :-)
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- # [00:50] <jez> and as for the Australis changes, well, quite a few devs have understandably given up
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- # [01:00] <jaws> smaug: it looks like we only allow keyboard navigation for <xul:menu> and <xul:menuitem> within a XUL popup
- # [01:01] <jaws> smaug: nsXULPopupManager::IsValidMenuItem checks if the tag name is xul:menu or xul:menuitem
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- # [01:01] <jaws> kinda stinks, it means that i have to use this tag name and then see if i can get the styling to work as it would if i used an hbox
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- # [01:02] <jaws> i'll be back later
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- # [01:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca5aed9f1c37 - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 993569 - Update Mozilla 31 to use NSS 3.16.1 Beta 4. This disables
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- # [01:16] <NeilAway> froydnj: FYI _AxS_'s problem is because the system pixman stuff hasn't been ported to c-c (because it would have been fixed by the c-c into m-c merge, which didn't happen for some reason)
- # [01:17] <froydnj> NeilAway: ah, cool, thanks
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- # [01:21] <NeilAway> froydnj: no wait, that was fixed in bug 993467
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- # [01:25] <NeilAway> froydnj: oh wait, I see he already found that bug
- # [01:25] <NeilAway> froydnj: the perils of reading scrollback ;-)
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- # [01:26] <froydnj> reading IRC scrollback: watching people discover solutions you already knew and then forgetting everything about them
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- # [01:32] <satdav> Hello whats the best way to file a bug with nightly
- # [01:32] <satdav> and is it core we file it under
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- # [01:54] <jryans> is try stuck? can't seem to push...
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- # [02:00] <jryans> kamidphish: okay, thanks.
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- # [02:05] <@njn> philor: do you know if I can ignore the Android 4.0 debug crashes at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8be09a4fde46 ?
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- # [02:07] <philor> njn: sorry, afraid you can't
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- # [02:08] <@njn> philor: ok, thanks
- # [02:08] <philor> maybe you can use them as leverage to get android debug hidden for not meeting visibility requirements, if stacks are totally broken for it rather than you breaking stacks for it, though
- # [02:08] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997191 exists, but I didn't think it was that prevalent
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- # [02:16] <mjrosenb> does anyone know where our build-id's come from?
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- # [02:17] <mjrosenb> ok, it looks like we generate them ourselves!
- # [02:17] <mjrosenb> this is good.
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- # [02:42] <RyanVM|afk> any dom folks around?
- # [02:42] <jst> RyanVM|afk: yo
- # [02:42] <RyanVM|afk> jst: trivia time
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- # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> jst: any idea why we'd be seeing test_interfaces.html intermittent failures since aurora landed on b2g30? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38746386&tree=Mozilla-B2g30-v1.4
- # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> never saw these on aurora
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- # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> they seem to come and go randomly on a push by push basis
- # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> but it's always CSSFontFeatureValuesRule
- # [02:45] <RyanVM|afk> oh, and so far debug builds only
- # [02:45] <jst> RyanVM|afk: you got me stumped here
- # [02:46] <jst> RyanVM|afk: bug on file yet?
- # [02:46] <RyanVM|afk> ah crap, I lied anyway, there was a b2g emulator opt run earlier that hit it too
- # [02:46] <RyanVM|afk> not yet, will file tonight
- # [02:46] <jst> RyanVM|afk: thanks, please cc bz and peterv
- # [02:46] <RyanVM|afk> will do
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- # [02:46] <jst> thanks
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- # [03:01] <philor> RyanVM: very vague memory of hitting that on inbound and 'curing' it with a clobber, but vague enough it should have been pre-30
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- # [03:02] <RyanVM> philor: ISTR seeing something liek it before
- # [03:02] <RyanVM> and I brushed off the earlier b2g emulator one for exactly that reason
- # [03:02] <RyanVM> my only though is that b2g30 wasn't clobbered yesterday
- # [03:02] <RyanVM> so maybe something with all the branch shuffling
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- # [03:04] <RyanVM> philor: so I guess valgrind really doesn't like that fx-team push
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- # [03:06] <philor> RyanVM: well, the bc3 and oth were repeatable too, maybe you already fixed V with the backout too
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- # [03:07] <RyanVM> could be
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- # [03:09] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888910#c2 but 30 is way too new to need clobbers for webidl changes
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- # [03:12] <philor> also, there ought to be a name for the feeling you get while reading your own bug comments and having no memory of ever having known what they say
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- # [03:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6eed9c67a1e3 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 859372 - Refactor root.js;r=past
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- # [03:13] <RyanVM> njn: what component should this go in? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38725175&tree=B2g-Inbound
- # [03:13] <@njn> RyanVM: toolkit / about:memory
- # [03:13] <RyanVM> thx
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- # [03:14] <@njn> RyanVM: actually, wait
- # [03:14] <@njn> RyanVM: layout is better
- # [03:14] <RyanVM> k
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- # [03:18] <Unfocused> philor: "Alzheimers"?
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- # [03:28] <@dbaron> Unfocused, being over age 30?
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- # [03:30] <kamidphish> Is there a way to fix this hanging on push to try?
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- # [03:45] <@njn> oh, it just timed out
- # [03:45] * RyanVM has no non-snarky response to that
- # [03:45] <@njn> remote: abort: repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try: timed out waiting for lock held by hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:32181
- # [03:45] <kamidphish> njn: All my pushes have hung today
- # [03:45] <RyanVM> just keep trying until it goes through
- # [03:46] <@njn> RyanVM: ok, thanks
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- # [03:46] <RyanVM> and feel free to yell in #releng if they're not all drunk at the PDX cantina by now
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- # [03:46] <philor> unless kamidphish's pushes are the problem, in which case "distract kamidphish with lies about what to do to stop it hanging, and then push while you have the chance"
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- # [03:47] <kamidphish> philor: I knew it was me!
- # [03:47] <kamidphish> philor: :-(
- # [03:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68e78cfc9094 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 1003320 - Send HPACK buffer size updates when receiving SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE. r=mcmanus
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- # [03:47] <RyanVM> philor: he's buying it!
- # [03:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e0fe7535587 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 993937 (part 2) - Update unit tests for http2 draft11. r=mcmanus
- # [03:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3125aa54ca3e - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 1001022 part 1 - http/2 draft 12 client implementation. r=mcmanus
- # [03:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f052f973ee1 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 993037 (part 1) - http/2 draft 11 client implementation. r=mcmanus
- # [03:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5e2228862e8 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 1001022 (part 2) - Update unit tests for http2 draft12. r=mcmanus
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- # [03:49] <hurley> i love it when firebot makes it look like i committed things in a horribly wrong order :)
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- # [03:53] <seth> happens every time
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- # [03:55] <RyanVM> seth: howdy seth!
- # [03:55] <RyanVM> how's my favorite imglib maintainer doing tonight?
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- # [04:08] <@bz> however now I don't know why this is failing. :(
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- # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0e2d11857b84 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
- # [04:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/62f583086e74 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
- # [04:08] <RyanVM> bz: I'd be OK waiting a day to see if it happens again after clobbering the entire tree
- # [04:09] <@bz> ok
- # [04:09] <RyanVM> they'll be starrable failures now, so we'll know easily enough
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- # [04:11] <RyanVM> >10csets
- # [04:11] <RyanVM> you can get the list from tbpl, fwiw
- # [04:11] <RyanVM> you can also use mcMerge on tbpl to comment the bugs for you
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- # [04:12] <@njn> RyanVM: what's mcMerge?
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- # [04:12] <RyanVM> the tool we use for marking bugs after merges and such
- # [04:12] <@njn> RyanVM: and how do you get the list from tbpl?
- # [04:12] <RyanVM> but it works fine for regular pushes to the inbound branches too
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- # [04:12] <@njn> RyanVM: where is mcMerge?
- # [04:12] <RyanVM> hover over your push on tbpl
- # [04:12] <RyanVM> upper-right side
- # [04:12] <RyanVM> you'll see links from both
- # [04:13] <RyanVM> give mcMerge a try :)
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- # [04:15] <@njn> RyanVM: why hasn't anyone told me about this wonder?
- # [04:15] <RyanVM> heh
- # [04:15] <RyanVM> because we do a crappy job advertising it I guess
- # [04:15] <RyanVM> for one thing, I don't know why the links are only visible on hovering
- # [04:15] <RyanVM> mcMerge could also probalby stand to have a better name
- # [04:15] <RyanVM> (though that is what it was originally written for)
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- # [04:17] <@njn> RyanVM: saves having to delete the "remote: " prefix on <10cset pushes
- # [04:17] <RyanVM> lol
- # [04:17] <RyanVM> I'm not the only one who hates that
- # [04:17] <@njn> RyanVM: I ended up using the "List changeset URLs" because mcMerge scared me
- # [04:18] <RyanVM> in your case, just scrolling ot the bottom and hitting "submit" would have worked :)
- # [04:18] <@njn> RyanVM: I didn't want to test that theory!
- # [04:18] <RyanVM> but yeah, for a single bug, meh
- # [04:18] <RyanVM> but you may find it useful for when you land multiple bugs at once
- # [04:18] <@njn> and accidentally mark it as fixed in Firefox 2.0, or something
- # [04:19] <@njn> RyanVM: I don't think I have ever landed multiple bugs at once
- # [04:19] <RyanVM> nah, it won't resolve the bug automatically unless it's landing on *-central
- # [04:19] <RyanVM> and you can always check/uncheck the resolve box
- # [04:19] <RyanVM> anyway, we use it daily (I use it for checkin-neededs I push in addition to regular merges), so it's pretty well-testsed
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- # [04:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0d658d3f739 - Ben Kelly - Bug 999841: Adjust max skia canvas size for typical mobile content and high dpi screens. r=snorp
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- # [04:32] <@njn> RyanVM: I believe it's well-tested, it was just a little overwhelming for my single little push :)
- # [04:32] <RyanVM> :)
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- # [04:43] <RyanVM> ewong: pong, but not horribly with it at this point
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- # [04:44] <ewong> RyanVM: oh. just a quick question. in the old mozillabuild, |ssh -l ewong jump| checks my /c/Users/ewong/.ssh dir. msys2 uses /home/ewong I don't know where to get ssh to automatically use /c/Users/ewong
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- # [04:45] <ewong> RyanVM: $HOME is already set to /c/Users/ewong
- # [04:46] <ewong> is there some environment setting that points ssh to use /c/Users/ewong/.ssh instead of /home/ewong/.ssh?
- # [04:47] <RyanVM> good question
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- # [04:47] <RyanVM> ewong: etc/profile seems like a good place to start
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- # [04:48] <RyanVM> maybe_create_home ()
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- # [04:48] <RyanVM> ewong: interesting "# Here is how HOME is set, in order of priority, when starting from Windows" comment in that function
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- # [04:50] <ewong> RyanVM: oh wow.. the old msys doesn't have a passwd file
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- # [04:50] <RyanVM> ewong: yeah, I think for a lot of this we really are going to be starting over from scratch
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- # [04:53] <ewong> RyanVM: ah, bingo. changed the home path in passwd to my /c/Users/ewong path works.
- # [04:53] <RyanVM> excellent
- # [04:53] <RyanVM> that's easy enough to fix going forward :)
- # [04:53] <ewong> RyanVM: should I find ways of automatically modifying that?
- # [04:53] <RyanVM> ewong: if you like
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- # [04:54] <RyanVM> ewong: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozillaBuild2 is my currently-useless wiki page
- # [04:54] <RyanVM> feel free to hang things off there as you figure these problems out
- # [04:54] <RyanVM> might as well get it recorded somewhere :)
- # [04:54] <ewong> RyanVM: ok. will do thanks!
- # [04:55] <RyanVM> thank you!
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- # [05:00] <ewong> RyanVM: another quick question. re: python, do I use the |pacman -S python| or use the one from the old mozillabuild?
- # [05:00] <RyanVM> ewong: that waits to be seen
- # [05:01] <RyanVM> that was one of glandium's concerns
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- # [05:01] <RyanVM> I think we should aim for the msys2 version first
- # [05:01] <RyanVM> but the virtualenv issue may make that unworkable
- # [05:01] <ewong> ok. that's what I'm working on. I |pacman -S mercurial|
- # [05:01] <ewong> which included python
- # [05:01] <RyanVM> yeah, hg, git, etc should all go through pacman
- # [05:02] <RyanVM> we can still use native python
- # [05:02] <RyanVM> by putting it ahead of msys2 in the path
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- # [05:02] <ewong> ok
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- # [05:04] <ewong> RyanVM: thanks!
- # [05:05] <RyanVM> ewong: if you haven't already gotten autoconf-2.13 through pacman, you'll need that too
- # [05:05] <ewong> oh right
- # [05:06] <RyanVM> ewong: I'm not saying this is an authoritative list, but here's what I've got installed - https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5012379
- # [05:06] <RyanVM> some of that (like the mingw stuff) isn't needed for sure
- # [05:06] <ewong> RyanVM: sorry. hopefully this is my last question. what exactly should be put in your Mozillabuild2 wiki page?
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- # [05:07] <RyanVM> ewong: for now, if you just want to create sections for things like overriding $HOME, that'd be a good start IMO
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- # [09:59] <Archaeopteryx2> hsivonen: hi, did you land any ICU stuff before these checkins? I get a build error related to ICU: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5015009
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- # [10:00] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: I didn't land any ICU changes other than build config changes.
- # [10:00] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: both build config changes went through try, though, with Windows included in the list of platforms
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- # [10:03] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: what's the actual compiler error? is Bibliothek "../lib/icudt.lib" und Objekt "../lib/icudt.exp" werden erstellt. it?
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- # [10:04] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: btw, did you clobber after updating the source?
- # [10:05] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: there is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=979259 about the need to clobber
- # [10:05] <Archaeopteryx2> i clobbered directly before it
- # [10:05] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: ok. then the situation sounds bad.
- # [10:05] <Archaeopteryx2> i also tried to build thunderbird and it failed in nsis complaining about unicode
- # [10:05] <hsivonen> I wonder why it fails when my try push was OK
- # [10:05] <Archaeopteryx2> i had success building on this machine eaarlier
- # [10:06] <Archaeopteryx2> hsivonen: i hadn't your pushes included
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- # [10:06] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: wow. does nsis depend on ICU these days? that would be weird
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- # [10:06] * Archaeopteryx2 pushes to try and bets it will build there. at least this is what happened for Thunderbird
- # [10:07] <hsivonen> hmm. my try push didn't include debug builds--only Windows XP Opt
- # [10:07] <Archaeopteryx2> tb log: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5009272 error: 2:23.23 Processing script file: "uninstaller.nsi" (ACP)
- # [10:07] <Archaeopteryx2> 2:23.49 Error: FileWriteWord is only available when building a Unicode installer
- # [10:08] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: it's very hard for me to believe that that'd be related
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- # [10:09] <hsivonen> I wonder if I should back out the ICU build changes now or wait to see if Windows build are green
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- # [10:10] <Archaeopteryx2> like i said, i didn't had the inbound patches in my build. likely something with the build environment
- # [10:11] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: oh you don't have my inbound patches yet
- # [10:11] <hsivonen> Archaeopteryx2: then I have no idea what's wrong
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- # [10:12] <Archaeopteryx2> sorry, hoped you know something which went into the tree earlier and could be related
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- # [11:09] <Yoric> How do I return an array from xpidl?
- # [11:10] <Yoric> Should I return a nsIArray?
- # [11:11] <Standard8> nsIArray is one option
- # [11:11] <Standard8> you can also return the more native arrays
- # [11:12] <Standard8> e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/calendar/base/public/calICalendarACLManager.idl#53
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- # [11:16] <Yoric> Thanks.
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- # [11:35] <hsivonen> NeilAway: do you count "Hardcode output to be UTF-8" as a sensible suggestion?
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- # [11:36] <hsivonen> NeilAway: failing that, I suggest a menu with UTF-8, Shift-JIS, gb18030, EUC-KR and the windows-* encodings
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- # [11:36] <hsivonen> and maybe Big5
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- # [11:39] <Yoric> Sounds good, thanks.
- # [11:39] <NeilAway> Yoric: unfortunately you can't have an array attribute though, it has to be a function
- # [11:39] <Yoric> Not a problem in my usecase.
- # [11:39] <Yoric> Thanks.
- # [11:40] <NeilAway> fair enough, just thought you should know just in case
- # [11:40] <Yoric> Yep.
- # [11:40] <NeilAway> hsivonen: well, the default is UTF-8, and I'm not expecting the dialog to be heavily used
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- # [12:55] <jonco> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hey, inbound seems to be burning
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- # [12:59] <mayhemer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yep?
- # [13:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mayhemer: bustage on inbound after your push :)
- # [13:00] <mayhemer> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
- # [13:00] <mayhemer> tested locally!
- # [13:00] <mayhemer> and works
- # [13:00] <mayhemer> hell
- # [13:00] <mayhemer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: can you back this out? or should I do it?
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- # [13:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mayhemer: will back it out :)
- # [13:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> sorry had a short internet outage
- # [13:06] <mayhemer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I can push now :)
- # [13:06] <mayhemer> have it ready right now
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- # [13:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mayhemer: ok cool
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- # [13:08] <mayhemer> done
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- # [14:21] <@smaug> bsmedberg: is it somehow possible to create several ipdl protocols at once
- # [14:21] <@bsmedberg> smaug: "at once" meaning what?
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- # [14:22] <@smaug> right now we end up creating PContent, then PBrowser and then child->parent creates PRenderFrame (sync)
- # [14:22] <@smaug> and maybe there are more
- # [14:23] <@smaug> so at least for the last one I'd like to remove sync child->parent creation
- # [14:23] <@smaug> so I was thinking it should somehow happen at the same time as PBrowser creation
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- # [14:25] <MarcoZ> Hi there! I'm trying to compile M-I on Win 7 with VS 2013 Express + DX SDK and current MozillaBuild 1.9. Running the proper batc file, and while building, I get these errors: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5017679
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- # [14:28] <MarcoZ> So, anyone got any ideas or should I file a bug for this?
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- # [15:09] <Optimize1> khuey|away: (whenever you are back) How does adding a new method isLoaded(const nsACString &aLocation) in mozJSComponentLoader.cpp sound.
- # [15:10] <Optimize1> it will tell if that module has already been loaded or not. (simply doing mImports.GET )
- # [15:10] <froydnj> what's the use case over just importing the module?
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- # [15:11] <Optimize1> froydnj: in lazy [module] getter
- # [15:11] <RealRaven> can anybody help with a Java installation
- # [15:12] <Optimize1> some places we dont actually want to refer the module b4 its already loaded
- # [15:12] <Optimize1> since we dont have any info on that, we end up loading it anyways
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- # [15:12] <Optimize1> increase memory usage uselessly.
- # [15:12] <Optimize1> (footprint)
- # [15:12] <froydnj> so you want to say if (!isLoaded()) { ...do something other than loading the module.. } ?
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- # [15:13] <Optimize1> yeah say for ex.
- # [15:13] <RealRaven> is there a firefox support channel?
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- # [15:14] <Optimize1> froydnj: lazymodulegetter(this, "foo", "module/url/")
- # [15:14] <Optimize1> and lets say, session store wants to store the state of something in foo
- # [15:14] <Optimize1> so even if foo has not been loaded anywhere, session store will end up loading it
- # [15:15] <Optimize1> even though foo's state is empty.
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- # [15:15] <Optimize1> froydnj: full example https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1001131#c14 onwards
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- # [15:16] <Optimize1> there are 2 use cases right there ..
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- # [15:55] <MarcoZ> Hi again! Anyone got an idea? Am trying to build mozilla-inbound on Win 7 with VS 2013 Express + DirectX SDK with a standard ./mach build, but get these errors during compile: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5017679
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- # [15:55] <MarcoZ> Fresh system, MozillaBuild 1.9.
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- # [16:00] <jesup> Optimize1: makes sense to me
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- # [16:03] <gcp> MarcoZ: inbound is busted
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- # [16:03] <gcp> MarcoZ: pull again, the sheriff already backed it out
- # [16:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03bac8416b9b - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1003832 - JSON spewer: Add frame sperations in resume points. r=h4writer
- # [16:05] <MarcoZ> gcp: Ah, thanks! Lucky me! ;-)
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- # [16:05] <Yoric> !seen mak
- # [16:05] <firebot> mak was last seen 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 40 minutes and a couple of seconds ago, saying 'greatwarrior: that'd be awesome, keep up with it' in #developers.
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- # [16:05] <Yoric> mak: ping, btw
- # [16:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b1d730203bb6 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - no bug - fix b2g bustage
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- # [16:06] <mak> Yoric: hey, i'm on mobile. will be back in 10m
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- # [16:06] <Yoric> sure
- # [16:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1d730203bb6 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - no bug - fix b2g bustage
- # [16:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30f939a41a22 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge m-c to m-i
- # [16:09] <Yoric> mak: Anyway, I'm just attempting to pressure you into reviewing bug 985655 :)
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- # [16:10] <mak> Yoric: ok it will be done
- # [16:11] <Yoric> thanks
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- # [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b1d730203bb6 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - no bug - fix b2g bustage
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- # [16:16] <RealRaven> nsIAbDirectory.cardForEmailAddress throws not implemented when used with LDAP.
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- # [16:32] <RyanVM> Yoric: so yeah... :(
- # [16:32] <Yoric> RyanVM: ?
- # [16:32] <RyanVM> Yoric: bug 917883
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- # [16:33] <RyanVM> Yoric: ah, hence the ping of mak above :)
- # [16:33] <RyanVM> would explain the valgrind failure too :)
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- # [16:33] <Yoric> I'm not sure about the valgrind failure.
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- # [16:33] <Yoric> But the fragility of shutdown is definitely something that needs to be addressed.
- # [16:34] <RyanVM> well, sqlite-related leaks would correlate, no?
- # [16:34] <Yoric> Well, bug 917883 is about addressing a little bit of it.
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- # [16:35] <Yoric> Good idea.
- # [16:35] <RyanVM> just one extra checkbox :)
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- # [16:46] <h4writer> RyanVM++ for uplifting the landed version and not the r+ version in the bug report
- # [16:47] <RyanVM> h4writer: :)
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- # [16:47] <RyanVM> h4writer: I always look for a branch patch attached first and export the m-c cset otherwise
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- # [16:48] <h4writer> RyanVM, Good, because the r+ would gave you red :S
- # [16:48] <MarcoZ> gcp: Thanks, pulling and building worked now.
- # [16:48] <h4writer> RyanVM, thanks
- # [16:48] <RyanVM> h4writer: lol, exporting the m-c cset doesn't *always* fix that problem ;) :P
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- # [16:50] <h4writer> RyanVM, true, but I don't expect any problems now. Merge is very recently, so it shouldn't have diverged a lot ;)
- # [16:50] <RyanVM> :)
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- # [16:52] <RyanVM> padenot: what bugs should I be following for progress on fixing bug 991273?
- # [16:52] <Yoric> Does anyone know which thread is used by nsIInputStreamPump::asyncRead ?
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- # [16:54] <padenot> RyanVM: bug 998711, I just CC-ed you
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- # [16:54] <RyanVM> thanks
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- # [16:55] <padenot> RyanVM: I landed a patch this morning, we'll see
- # [16:55] <RyanVM> nice :)
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- # [17:20] <@smaug> hmm, doesn't seem to
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- # [17:21] <@smaug> maybe you want to change layout stuff
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- # [17:21] <@smaug> or layout.css.dpi
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- # [17:34] <BenWa> smaug: Yes, try an empty thread name
- # [17:34] <@smaug> -t ?
- # [17:34] <@smaug> that doesn't work
- # [17:34] <BenWa> smaug: it search by common prefix so an empty thread name should match all the registered thread. Note we don’t register all threads
- # [17:35] <BenWa> try -t “”
- # [17:35] <@smaug> aha
- # [17:35] <BenWa> bash should expend to an empty arg I believe
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- # [17:36] <@smaug> threads need to be explicitly be registered for profiling?
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- # [17:37] <@smaug> ./profile.sh start -t "" seems to want some particular process
- # [17:37] <@smaug> "No B2G process specified. Exitin"
- # [17:37] <@smaug> g
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- # [17:38] <BenWa> smaug: Yes, use profile.sh ps to list the processes
- # [17:38] <BenWa> for example to profile threads in the main process do -p b2g
- # [17:38] <BenWa> or -p homescreen
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- # [17:39] <BenWa> Profiling all threads of all processes will overwelm the system and give really bad profiles
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- # [17:39] <BenWa> smaug: and yes, only threads that call the register/unregister in their main method will show up for profiling.
- # [17:39] <BenWa> Main thread, compositor, web workers, all chromium threads do
- # [17:40] <@smaug> BenWa: I want all the processes
- # [17:40] <@smaug> but ok
- # [17:40] <@smaug> need to think
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- # [17:41] <@smaug> BenWa: do you recall if parser thread is profiled?
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- # [17:42] <BenWa> I haven’t seen it so likely no
- # [17:42] <BenWa> it’s easy to add the calls
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- # [17:43] <BenWa> smaug: example: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/chromium/src/base/thread.cc#146
- # [17:43] <@smaug> ./profile.sh start -t "" Homescreen doesn't work
- # [17:43] <BenWa> ./profile.sh start -t "" -p Homescreen
- # [17:44] <gfritzsche> hm, why does www.mozilla.org/firefox/beta/ still link to 29.0b9?
- # [17:44] <@smaug> uh, right :)
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- # [17:44] <@smaug> gfritzsche: because there are no new beta builds yet?
- # [17:44] <gfritzsche> smaug: ah, good point
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- # [17:45] <@smaug> BenWa: ./profile.sh start -t "" -p Homescreen leads to Threads: -p .... No B2G process specified. Exiting
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- # [17:45] <djvj> RyanVM: Hey, I forgot to mark a bug as [leave open] and you marked it resolved yesterday. If I want to re-open it, do I replace the Whiteboard field with [leave open], or add [leave open] to the existing tag there?
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- # [17:46] <djvj> RyanVM: next push should close it.
- # [17:46] <RyanVM> then I wouldn't add a leave-open to it now :)
- # [17:46] <BenWa> smaug: must be a bug in the profile.sh script parsing then
- # [17:47] <djvj> RyanVM: that seems to make sense ;) thx
- # [17:47] <BenWa> smaug: you could try a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, (etc)
- # [17:47] <BenWa> or find the bug in the bash script :)
- # [17:47] <BenWa> gotta go eat, bbiab
- # [17:48] <Optimizer> so.. beginner in idl and cpp method exposed to JS. how will a boolean return type method look like in idl and cpp ?
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- # [17:48] <Optimizer> where does the returned value pointer go in cpp method ??
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- # [17:48] <froydnj> Optimizer: NS_IMETHOD MyClass::GetMyBoolValue(bool* aValue)
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- # [17:49] <Optimizer> what about arguments ?
- # [17:49] <Ms2ger> XPIDL?
- # [17:49] <Optimizer> so the last value is the return type ?
- # [17:49] <froydnj> Optimizer: yes
- # [17:49] <Optimizer> returned value*
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- # [17:50] <Optimizer> ok, this class has all method sugnature like nsresult myclass::foo(...)
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- # [17:50] <jcranmer> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/XPIDL
- # [17:50] <Optimizer> how does one come to know of the term XPIDL ? :)
- # [17:50] <Optimizer> (for astarter)
- # [17:51] <Ms2ger> Ask
- # [17:51] <Optimizer> :D
- # [17:51] <Ms2ger> Or notice that the file is listed in XPIDL_SOURCES in moz.build
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- # [17:51] <Optimizer> so second one will also need the ask step :P
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- # [17:54] <bkelly> smaug: BenWa: I thought you always had to enable profiling on the parent process as well or you would get that error
- # [17:54] <bkelly> ./profile.sh -p b2g && ./profile.sh -t "" -p Homescreen
- # [17:54] <@smaug> ahaa
- # [17:54] <bkelly> sorry... those should be ./profile.sh start
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- # [17:55] <bkelly> you can then just capture the Homescreen... ./profile.sh capture Homescreen
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- # [17:55] <@smaug> bkelly: doesn't help
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- # [17:55] <@smaug> -t "" part doesn't work
- # [17:55] <bkelly> oh... I see
- # [17:55] <nical> RyanVM: yeah!
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- # [17:59] <snorp> ted: wooooo
- # [17:59] <RyanVM> nical: ok
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- # [18:00] <bkelly> smaug: you could probably hack it on here: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/tools/profiler/TableTicker.h#132
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- # [18:01] <bkelly> by just making threadSelected() return true always
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- # [18:02] <Optimizer> Foo in cpp and foo in idl
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- # [18:03] <vlad> ted: have you tested it on a shield?
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- # [18:07] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, y
- # [18:07] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: thanks.
- # [18:07] <Optimizer> I am building mach build js/xpconnect and i am getting many unrelated errors
- # [18:07] <Optimizer> files that i didn't even touch.
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- # [18:10] <Optimizer> for anyone that can help : https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5020000
- # [18:10] <@ted> vlad: i have not!
- # [18:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/289e653a7061 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 995704 - Make Ion jitcode incrementally touch huge stack frames to avoid crashes on windows. r=sunfish
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- # [18:10] <@ted> vlad: do you have one laying around?
- # [18:10] <@ted> vlad: haven't tested on ouya either
- # [18:10] <@ted> living dangerously here
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- # [18:10] <@ted> i've literally only tested with one bluetooth controller paired with my N4 and my galaxy tab
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- # [18:11] <vlad> ted: I have one next to me!
- # [18:11] <vlad> ted: can you email me a link to a test page?
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- # [18:11] <vlad> and I'll try it as soon as a build is done
- # [18:11] <@ted> vlad: yep
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- # [18:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1f9bd75bb714 - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 961745 - Introduce b2g/dev application to build a mulet. r=mshal, r=fabrice
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- # [18:14] <till> edmorley|sheriffduty: ping
- # [18:14] <vlad> ted: got it, thanks.. will check in a bit
- # [18:15] <@ted> cool
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- # [18:15] <@ted> vlad: i'd expect it to work, but i'm interested to know if the control mapping works properly
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- # [18:15] <vlad> yeah
- # [18:15] <till> edmorley|sheriffduty: bug 471713 just got a checkin-needed rejected because it doesn't have a try-push associated with the patch. However, the patch is NPOTB, as it only changes comments. Any way to prevent the automatic rejection in cases like this?
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- # [18:15] <@ted> which reminds me, i should have blassey retest with a wired usb controller
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- # [18:16] <blassey> send me email, I'll put it on my to-do list
- # [18:16] <@ted> okay
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- # [18:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> till: at present I'm copy-pastaing by hand - I did look at a diff in that bug, but it wasn't the documentation one - the r+ that was given after the last batch of commits was for another part.
- # [18:18] <edmorley|sheriffduty> till: (Attachment #8404858)
- # [18:18] <Ms2ger> Morleybot, eh
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- # [18:20] <till> edmorley|sheriffduty: I can't see any non-comment changes in #8404858
- # [18:21] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: were you pushing any other c-n's?
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- # [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4be5203a3c9 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 911246 - Enable incremental cycle collection by default. r=smaug
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- # [18:21] <till> edmorley|sheriffduty: the entire bug should only contain comment changes. Except for #8405731, I guess, but that is NPOTB, too
- # [18:21] <froydnj> mccr8: woohoo!
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- # [18:22] <mccr8> hurray
- # [18:22] <mccr8> we'll see if it sticks
- # [18:22] <Optimizer> I am doing "mach build js/xpconnect" with changes in only 1 cpp and 1 idl file, but getting so many errors from diff. files : https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5020000
- # [18:22] <edmorley|sheriffduty> till: must have looked misread, sorry - was going through several bugs weeding out the checkin-neededs that weren't ready
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- # [18:23] <RyanVM> between nical's cxxstackframe patch re-landing and mccr8's landing, this afternoon could get fun :P
- # [18:23] <till> edmorley|sheriffduty: no worries, just wanted to know the correct procedure. Should I set c-i again?
- # [18:23] <mccr8> I've been running ICC locally for about 5 months so it shouldn't be too bad. ;)
- # [18:23] * froydnj abandons the idea of landing anything when his b2g try run *finally* finishes
- # [18:23] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: not any more today - need to head out now, going to star a few bits and then wrap up :-)
- # [18:23] <edmorley|sheriffduty> till: yeah :-)
- # [18:24] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: k
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- # [18:24] <till> ok
- # [18:24] <RyanVM> i'm getting ready to queue some up, so I"ll get it
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- # [18:27] <amirouche> héllo, I'm going through https://wiki.mozilla.org/Embedding/IPCLiteAPI
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- # [18:27] <amirouche> I'd like to embed gecko in an application
- # [18:27] <amirouche> I contacted via mail the dev I'm looking for a place where to ask questions if any
- # [18:27] <philor> RyanVM: don't forget to include "any win8 slave may be broken in weird ways" to your list of afternoon fun
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- # [18:28] <RyanVM> till: that said, that bug could *really* use a good dose of checkin+ flag setting
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- # [18:28] <philor> just saw another one where the screenshot showed the Start screen
- # [18:28] <RyanVM> Waldo too ^
- # [18:28] <amirouche> so far I've been following the instructions on the wiki
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- # [18:29] <RyanVM> isn't romaxa the owner of IPCLite?
- # [18:29] <till> RyanVM: the things you're saying are the truth, yes
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- # [18:30] <RyanVM> till: gee, only 2 failed hunks on that patch
- # [18:30] <till> :(
- # [18:30] <amirouche> the problem is that it seems like the new repo for the project is https://github.com/tmeshkova/gecko-dev but the wiki instructions still link to another repository
- # [18:31] <till> RyanVM: that's both annoying *and* surprising in this particular case
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- # [18:31] <amirouche> romaxa's binaries are unvailable http://romaxa.info/fennec/IPCEmbedding/
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- # [18:32] <amirouche> I wondering why it's called *lite* embedding
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- # [18:32] <amirouche> it's means that it's not XPCOM based?
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- # [18:34] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: would you be ok to take over? btw if you see any of the "Exception:" [exceeded max bug suggestions], it will be fixed bug 1003729 (and we can also maybe make a TBPL tweak if we want to in the meantime)
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- # [18:36] <@smaug> amirouche: IIRC the parent process side doesn't use xpcom
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- # [18:37] <@smaug> amirouche: but you really need romaxa or someone else hacking it
- # [18:37] <@smaug> amirouche: also, if wiki instructions are wrong, feel free to fix them. It is after all a wiki
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- # [18:38] <amirouche> I'll do something, even if sign up is required for editing the wiki
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- # [18:39] <Optimizer> froydnj: any idea on why I am getting like a ton of unrelated errors : https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5020000
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- # [18:41] <amirouche> I just reminded myself that compiling "firefox" is not instant
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- # [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3beda9264d51 - Jerry Shih - Bug 993019 - Handle scheduling rendering task for cross-process rotation. r=mattwoodrow, r=nical
- # [18:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a965d101659 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 1001966 - Part 3: Remove numbered NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_WRAPPERCACHE macros. r=smaug
- # [18:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b1a07e50882 - Bob Owen - Bug 973837 - Don't allow view-source in <object>s. r=johns
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- # [18:42] <froydnj> Optimizer: not sure, I'd have to see a diff of your changes to have a bit more context
- # [18:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f158f06a59e - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 1001966 - Part 1: Add variadic NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_WRAPPERCACHE macro. r=smaug
- # [18:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c2f46733945 - Rik Cabanier - Bug 1003380 - Implementation + test for createPattern with a broken image. r=bas
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- # [18:43] <amirouche> What I want are bindings for the layout engine + rendering (gecko, isn't it?) I'd like to manage everything else history, caching, networking etc...
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- # [18:45] <Optimizer> froydnj: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5020267
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- # [18:45] <froydnj> Optimizer: probably want to fix your comment in the idl file
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- # [18:45] <Optimizer> froydnj: yeah .. right now in learning stage
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- # [18:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ddb30e14e82 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 920292 - Fix a bad MOZ_ASSERT("message") in OmxTrackEncoder - r=ehsan
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- # [18:49] <bjacob> froydnj: is it ok to ask you to review mfbt patches? want to see if you could steal the review on bug 920292 ?
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- # [18:51] <froydnj> Optimizer: not sure what's going on...you might have to build at toplevel to get the idl changes picked up
- # [18:52] <froydnj> Optimizer: wacky stuff like that usually means you forgot braces or parens somewhere, but I don't see anything like that
- # [18:52] <froydnj> bjacob: looking
- # [18:52] <Optimizer> froydnj: yeah me too.
- # [18:52] <Optimizer> ok, will do a clobber
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- # [18:53] <froydnj> you don't have to clobber, just a full build from toplevel
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- # [18:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: so you want to fix some warnings do you?
- # [18:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> firebot: bug 1003917
- # [18:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1003917 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, >400 NSS MSVC linker warnings on a Windows Firefox build
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- # [18:54] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, eww, windows
- # [18:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cpeterson might find that interesting too
- # [18:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> even though it's in NSS and therefore won't get fixed
- # [18:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (oops, did I say that out loud?)
- # [18:55] <cpeterson> no one cares about warnings on Windows :)
- # [18:55] <vlad> I care about warnings on windows!
- # [18:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, hence why my win64 build is currently pushing 5000 of them
- # [18:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no biggie!
- # [18:56] <vlad> win64 has a pile of valid warnings
- # [18:56] <vlad> of comparisons between size_t and uint32_t
- # [18:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 25:24.31 4912 compiler warnings present.
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- # [18:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yup
- # [18:56] <vlad> due to nsTArray's size parameter
- # [18:56] <vlad> I filed a bug on it a while back
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- # [18:57] <bjacob> vlad: we should really have the 32bitness stay an internal detail of nsTArray and have nsTArray only use size_t in its interface
- # [18:57] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh man, did we not make that many go away with the nsTSubstring and nsTObserverArray fixes?
- # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/5eeea833ae71 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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- # [18:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: that's why I was looking today :(
- # [18:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> doesn't seem to have done much
- # [18:57] <vlad> bug 900661
- # [18:58] <bjacob> vlad: yeah no, i'm sort of proposing we fix this the other way around by having our containers not use uint32_t in their interface for size/index parameters
- # [18:58] <vlad> bjacob: yeah it should, I think there was a concern about interfaces that the length gets passed to needing to also be 64-bit
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- # [18:59] <vlad> bjacob: I know, I'm putting that bug up there because that's the bug I filed for the issue.. my approach was doing the opposite of what you're suggesting
- # [18:59] <vlad> I think what you're suggesting is right
- # [18:59] <vlad> but it has additional work beyond just changing the internal detail
- # [18:59] <bjacob> sure
- # [18:59] <vlad> because it's not just internal -- it means that Length() returns a size_t now, which will be 64-bit
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- # [18:59] <bjacob> yes
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- # [19:00] <vlad> but fixing *those* areas is arguably the right thing to do :)
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- # [19:00] * bjacob should work on skia though
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- # [19:00] <vlad> bjacob: also the string APIs
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- # [19:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> c:\tools\sdks\dx10\include\dxgitype.h(21) : warning C4005: 'DXGI_ERROR_INVALID_CALL' : macro redefinition
- # [19:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> c:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\include\shared\winerror.h(49518) : see previous definition of 'DXGI_ERROR_INVALID_CALL'
- # [19:01] <vlad> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah
- # [19:01] <bjacob> vlad: i didnt say i'd fix those :)
- # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> do we need to #ifdef, #undef those?
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- # [19:01] <vlad> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's an unfortunate side effect of building with both a separate DX SDK and the windows platform SDK
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- # [19:01] <vlad> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the fix for that is actually to get rid of the DX SDK entirely
- # [19:01] <vlad> and just have available the DLLs we need from it to copy in
- # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> *that* bug
- # [19:01] <bobowen> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks for yet another check-in :)
- # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bobowen: yessir :)
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- # [19:02] <vlad> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what SDK version is on the build machines?
- # [19:02] <vlad> like what do our official builds build with? 8.0?
- # [19:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I believe so
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- # [19:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> vlad: I'm not even sure it's worth filing other C4267 warnings until the spammier ones are fixed
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- # [19:03] <vlad> is 8.0 required for the build? and if not, can we make it?
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- # [19:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but on principle, should I be scared about all the times size_t is implicitly treated as equal to some other type?
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- # [19:03] <vlad> doing so would mean that we can get rid of the directx sdk need entirely for developers
- # [19:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> vlad: I don't think I'm the one who's best qualified to answer that
- # [19:03] <vlad> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sort of scared but not really
- # [19:03] <vlad> like, you should be scared if it ever overflows 32-bit
- # [19:03] <vlad> but it shouldn't do that
- # [19:04] <froydnj> bjacob: trying to find a new reviewer after 24 hours, eh? :)
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- # [19:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan ^ ?
- # [19:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (about teh win sdk)
- # [19:04] <@ehsan> meeting, sorry
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- # [19:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm wondering if that decision might be tied to the msvc2013 upgrade
- # [19:05] <vlad> no, unrelated I think
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- # [19:05] <vlad> ah ok -- our build prereqs page still supposrts 2010 with the windows 7 SDK
- # [19:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> vlad: I wonder how much faster my build would be if I suppressed C4267 locally to prevent it from spamming teh console
- # [19:05] <bjacob> froydnj: oh i wasnt complaining about the review delay particularly. Just that Waldo is generally busy and i was wondering if it would actually make sense to reroute reviewing work in general.
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- # [19:05] <vlad> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I do that for my local builds :/
- # [19:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> vlad: but if there are newer, free-as-in-beer express versions, could we consider dropping 2010 support?
- # [19:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm sure some of the C++ guys would love that
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- # [19:06] <vlad> I would love to, except we can't for Windows XP
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- # [19:06] <vlad> 2012+ can't build binaries that work on XP :(
- # [19:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> SP2 anyway, right?
- # [19:06] * RyanVM|sheriffduty thought SP3 was OK
- # [19:07] <vlad> SP2, right
- # [19:07] <vlad> which it turns out is a large percentage of installs
- # [19:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and *that* bug is what I was referring to :P
- # [19:07] <vlad> ahh
- # [19:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> :)
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- # [19:08] <NeilAway> also 2012+ isn't as free as 2010 is
- # [19:09] <NeilAway> although maybe if I never use the gui, I won't need to register
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- # [19:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38814198&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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- # [19:10] <froydnj> bjacob: it looks OK to me, though I wonder whether catching functions and arrays is worth the extra complexity
- # [19:10] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: wtf, that was green on try
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- # [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: ruh roh - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38813753&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: that's on the #include push
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- # [19:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: and 3 more android reftest crashes on that push :(
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- # [19:11] <@ted> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c8a7f18396af
- # [19:11] <@ted> green android 4.0 m-6
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- # [19:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> exciting
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- # [19:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: android 2.2 is hitting it too now
- # [19:12] <@ted> maybe a clobber issue?
- # [19:12] <froydnj> bjacob: anyway, feel free to bounce the review to me if you like, and I'll get it done today
- # [19:12] <bjacob> froydnj: arrays definitely is, since ehsan caught a few cases when he worked on it, and i caught again a new one, see the patch just above.
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- # [19:13] <froydnj> oh, right, string literals = arrays
- # [19:13] <froydnj> duh
- # [19:13] <bjacob> froydnj: the others (functions and floats) are just me, perhaps. I have forgotten call brackets before, and i have seen intermittent asserts on floats.
- # [19:13] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: wonder if we don't handle "the set of webidl files changed" properly?
- # [19:13] <bjacob> right
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- # [19:13] <@ted> because my push would cause us to start using the Gamepad webidl files
- # [19:13] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/webidl/moz.build#503
- # [19:13] <bjacob> froydnj: ok, bouncing the review. i think it makes sense to have >1 reviewer for MFBT
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- # [19:14] <froydnj> ted: we should, but maybe there are still bugs in the webidl build bits
- # [19:14] <bjacob> froydnj: shouldn't you be a MFBT peer
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- # [19:15] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's the only suggestion i have, it seems plausible
- # [19:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: i can touch CLOBBER
- # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> need to push nical's backout anyway
- # [19:16] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks
- # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: will you file the "needed clobber" bug?
- # [19:16] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, i'll queue it up
- # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
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- # [19:19] <nical> the previous version had a green try run before getting backed out
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- # [19:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: this appears to be crashing half of the time on Android reftest runs
- # [19:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=74ef5120ae2f
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- # [19:29] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: filed bug 1003945
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- # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thx
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- # [19:29] <@ted> <3
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- # [19:58] <@ehsan_> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, what do you need to know about the windows sdk?
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- # [19:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan_: just wondering what it would take to make the win8 sdk the minimum required for our builds
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- # [20:02] <@ted> froydnj: ah, the webidl bustage is more insidious
- # [20:02] <@ted> i can repro it locally
- # [20:02] <@ted> most of the gamepad stuff works fine
- # [20:02] <@ted> it's navigator.getGamepads that's broken
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- # [20:03] <@ted> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/b1d730203bb6/dom/webidl/Navigator.webidl#l287
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- # [20:04] <Optimizer> how is the mapping of import method in xpcIJSModuleLoader.idl done to Components.utils ?
- # [20:04] <Optimizer> ah okay, its just a call .
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- # [20:06] <@ehsan_> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hmm, I'm not quite sure :/ presumably adding some configure checks to disallow building with older SDKs, filing bugs to get the new SDK on our build machines, etc
- # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: is the clobber going to work?
- # [20:07] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looks likely yeah
- # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> excellent
- # [20:07] <@ted> we're just not re-preprocessing preprocessed webidl files if the defines change
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- # [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34887cdb5616 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 6c2f46733945 (bug 1003380) for frequent Android mochitest-2 failures.
- # [20:09] <jaws> dholbert: post updated, thanks for recommending that
- # [20:10] <bholley> mkaply: ping
- # [20:10] <dholbert> jaws, yay! np
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- # [20:12] <bholley> mkaply: you following bug 995943?
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- # [20:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: already seeing some green M6 clobber runs :)
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- # [20:17] <mkaply> bholley: I thought caps stuff went away a lot longer ago than 29
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- # [20:18] <bholley> mkaply: some of the residual goop stuck around and made the file:// stuff keep working
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- # [20:20] <bholley> mkaply: so, it's just a question of how to deploy this extension to enterprise folks that need it with minimal pain
- # [20:20] <bholley> mkaply: once it's finalized, we should probably announce the extension on the EWG
- # [20:21] <mkaply> bholley: Well right off the bat, we probably have a problem. Did you write this with the add-on SDK?
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- # [20:21] <bholley> mkaply: yes
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- # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3d4178a07d6a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
- # [20:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/eab5a97cfff6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
- # [20:22] <mkaply> That's not going to work for the way most enterprises are going to want to deploy it (as part of their distribution in distribution/bundles).
- # [20:22] <mkaply> Because it should be tightly integrated into Firefox (I dare say, this might be the first extension we want to bundle with the ESR)
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- # [20:22] <jimm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I think you could do that today by simply changing the wiki that details minimum sdk required.
- # [20:23] <jimm> we already build with the win8 sdk in automation
- # [20:23] <jimm> unless there are repos like tb that still use an older one,, not sure about that
- # [20:23] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: \o/
- # [20:24] <mkaply> bholley: Honestly, I have very little sympathy for these folks timing wise, since we've been telling them to test for months. Was this fix really this recent? Or did it ride the 29 train?
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- # [20:24] <bholley> mkaply: it rode the trains
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- # [20:25] <bholley> mkaply: can someone more familiar with all this stuff take charge of converting the addon to an enterprise-friendly format?
- # [20:25] <bholley> mkaply: it's a very simple addon, and the source is on gitihub
- # [20:25] <mkaply> bholley: I'll take a look.
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- # [20:27] <bholley> mkaply: thanks
- # [20:27] <erahm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so you were able to do a memory dump w/o crashing?
- # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: so far, but I'm trying to build up a good day's worth of usage on this session
- # [20:27] <erahm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sounds good, thanks!
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- # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: will keep you posted :)
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- # [20:31] <mkaply> Does the Firefox windows build do omni.ja by default? Or do you have to enable update packaging?
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- # [20:32] <@ted> mkaply: pretty sure it does omni.ja by default
- # [20:32] <@ted> (but only at the packaging step)
- # [20:32] <mkaply> ted: So if you don't enable packaging, it won't get built.
- # [20:32] <mkaply> ted: default meaning no mozconfig?
- # [20:33] <@ted> mkaply: yes
- # [20:33] <@ted> mkaply: "enable packaging" meaning what?
- # [20:33] <@ted> i mean when you do "make package"
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- # [20:34] <tn> emails about talos improvements/regressions that come a week later? what is that about? (no its not for later merges or branch landings)
- # [20:34] <mkaply> ted: So a normal build won't get you the omni.ja? You have to do an extra step?
- # [20:34] <mkaply> I was referring to - ac_add_options --enable-update-packaging
- # [20:34] <@ted> mkaply: correct
- # [20:34] <@ted> mkaply: that should not be necessary
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- # [20:35] <@ted> mkaply: i mean, you need to run make package to get any sort of redistributable thing
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- # [20:35] <@ted> and we wouldn't want omni.ja in dist/bin, that would make dep builds crappy
- # [20:35] <mkaply> ted: OK. That helps. On Mac you don't need to apparently. You just get the .app file as part of the build.
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- # [20:36] <mkaply> with omni.ja (I think)
- # [20:36] <@ted> mkaply: i don't think the .app has omni.ja
- # [20:36] <@ted> retina:mozilla-central luser$ find /Users/luser/build/debug-mozilla-central/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/ -name "omni.ja"
- # [20:36] <@ted> nothing
- # [20:36] <@ted> we build a bundle because you need that to usefully run the app, but we don't do the packaging step
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- # [20:37] <mkaply> ted: That's helpful. Thanks for the info.
- # [20:37] <@ted> np
- # [20:37] <@ted> (also the binaries in there aren't stripped, they're actually just symlinks, yadda yadda)
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- # [20:41] <jmaher> tn: we could do retriggers
- # [20:41] <jmaher> tn: or fill in builds that were coalesced
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- # [20:42] <jmaher> tn: also we restarted the regression finder about 2 hours ago
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- # [20:43] <paul> I'm trying to push to try, but "hg push -f try" never hands. Stuck on: "searching for changes"
- # [20:43] <paul> any idea what's going on?
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- # [20:43] <tn> jmaher|eat: the change was pretty clear without an re-triggers so i'm guessing the restart must have done it. do we need to restart is regularly?
- # [20:44] <tn> paul, bug 994028
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- # [20:44] <tn> paul, i had success by basing my push on a fresh pull, not sure if that was random luck though
- # [20:44] <paul> tn: thanks.
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- # [20:46] <dholbert> have you given it a few minutes?
- # [20:46] <dholbert> paul: ^
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- # [20:47] <dholbert> paul, sometimes pushing to try takes minutes (and we need to reset the repo on the server periodically to fix that)
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- # [20:48] <paul> dholbert: it's been around ~5 minutes…
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- # [20:48] <paul> I'll wait
- # [20:49] <dholbert> paul, hmm, that's getting to the threshold where I'd suspect something funny is going on
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- # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: welcome to every day for the past couple weeks
- # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bug 994028 is the right bug to scream in
- # [20:50] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty / paul, FWIW, I pushed to try several times today, and it took less than a minute each time
- # [20:50] <dholbert> though perhaps it helps that I'm in MV
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- # [20:51] <paul> dholbert: still stuck… it's been > 10 minutes apparently
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- # [20:52] <paul> dholbert: remote: abort: repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try: timed out waiting for lock held by hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:631
- # [20:52] <dholbert> paul, sounds like it's a different issue than what I was thinking, per last 2 comments on the bug RyanVM|sheriffduty linked to
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- # [20:54] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what does the Win8 SDK buy you?
- # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> NeilAway: it's all int he logs above
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- # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> talking about build warnings resulting from mixed and matched SDKs
- # [20:56] <jimb> bsmedberg: I think I've found a bug in nsBufferedOutputStream when used to buffer non-blocking streams. Are you a good person to ask about that?
- # [20:56] <@bsmedberg> jimb: no, mcmanus
- # [20:56] <jimb> bsmedberg: Thanks.
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- # [20:57] <paul> dholbert: hmm… ok.
- # [20:57] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: huh, you mean we don't detect the win8 sdk and ignore the directx sdk if it's not needed?
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- # [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> NeilAway: 1:01:15 PM - vlad: RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's an unfortunate side effect of building with both a separate DX SDK and the windows platform SDK
- # [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 1:01:25 PM - vlad: RyanVM|sheriffduty: the fix for that is actually to get rid of the DX SDK entirely
- # [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 1:01:32 PM - vlad: and just have available the DLLs we need from it to copy in
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- # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> apparently the win8 sdk would eliminate the need for the directx sdk
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- # [20:59] <vlad> it already does, all we need from the dx sdk is the d3dcompiler_43.dll
- # [20:59] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah, so the problem is we need different amounts of the directx sdk depending on the winsdk?
- # [20:59] <vlad> but the dx SDK sets itself up in $INCLUDE/$LIB/etc.
- # [20:59] <vlad> and we add it since I think at one point we needed it (pre win8-SDK)
- # [20:59] <vlad> so we can just.. not do all of that
- # [20:59] <vlad> and require the win8 SDK
- # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ++
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- # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> is there any reason not to do that?
- # [21:00] <vlad> d3dcompiler_43.dll can just live on the build machiens for packaging
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- # [21:00] <vlad> and devs can use compiler v46 from the win8 sdk
- # [21:00] <vlad> (we'll be packaging both soon enough)
- # [21:01] <NeilAway> vlad: well, can't we just make the CXXFLAGS in libEGL and libGLESv2 optional?
- # [21:01] <vlad> jgilbert is working on the _46 stuff
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- # [21:01] <vlad> what do you mean?
- # [21:01] <NeilAway> vlad: <vlad> the ds sdk sets itself up in $INCLUDE/$LIB/etc
- # [21:02] <NeilAway> vlad: so why are we adding it in those Makefiles?
- # [21:02] <NeilAway> vlad: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/angle/src/libEGL/Makefile.in#17
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- # [21:02] <NeilAway> vlad: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/angle/src/libGLESv2/Makefile.in#17
- # [21:02] <vlad> oh, I guess I'm wrong, it's not going into #INCLUDE
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- # [21:02] <vlad> er $INCLUDE
- # [21:02] <vlad> but yeah, that stuff is going away
- # [21:02] <vlad> in bug...
- # [21:03] <NeilAway> vlad: in fact, that's ifndef MOZ_HAS_WINSDK_WITH_D3D
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- # [21:03] <NeilAway> vlad: so, why aren't you getting that with the win8 sdk already?
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- # [21:04] <vlad> NeilAway: that part I dunno
- # [21:04] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so, where is the build getting that directx redefinition and why if you're using the win8 sdk don't you appear to have MOZ_HAS_WINSDK_WITH_D3D set?
- # [21:05] <vlad> Neil: it's changing somewhat in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=999260
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- # [21:06] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, try using --enable-winsdk-directx (until bug 999260 lands)
- # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> NeilAway: too bad we can't do that on tbpl
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- # [21:06] <vlad> tbpl should be fixed by that bug
- # [21:07] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah, I thought those were your own builds
- # [21:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> NeilAway: added locally anyway :)
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- # [21:08] <NeilAway> vlad: so, that should then autodetect the win8 sdk and ignore the directx sdk, but people using earlier sdks should be unaffected
- # [21:08] <vlad> MOZ_HAS_WINSDK_WITH_D3D isn't dependent on enable-winsdk-directx though
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- # [21:09] <vlad> it's not defined for me in my build.. I wonder why
- # [21:09] <vlad> (without that patch)
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- # [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4fde9c8a24b3 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 983481 open a post activation landing page, r=markh
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- # [21:09] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah, my bad, I must have misread the patch, that swtich might not work after all :s
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- # [21:10] <vlad> NeilAway: Oh, I see why
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- # [21:10] <vlad> in current configure.in, we only look for d3dcompiler_43.dll unless --enable-winsdk-directx is specified
- # [21:10] <vlad> if it is specified, then we look for the appropriate version for that SDK
- # [21:10] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah, so it is needed for local builds, so that we look for the new d3d compiler
- # [21:10] <vlad> we'll never find _43 in the 8.0/8.1 SDK, so we never get MOZ_HAS_WINSDK_WITH_D3D set
- # [21:11] <vlad> let me verify that this is fixed wtih Jeff's patch
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- # [21:11] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but as vlad points out, the new patch will dtrt everywhere anyway
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- # [21:13] <@ted> ehsan_: pong
- # [21:13] <vlad> (fwiw, the reason we're doing all this goop to get _46/_47 in is that they're like 10x faster than v43)
- # [21:14] <@ehsan_> ted: I have a question about the webidl hook thingy, sorry if this is all very obvious
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- # [21:14] <@ted> ehsan_: np
- # [21:15] <@ehsan_> ted: the question is: where should it be deployed. my immediate instinct was m-c/inbound/b2g-i/fx-team/m-a/m-b/m-r
- # [21:15] <@ehsan_> ted: but what about project branches?
- # [21:15] <@ehsan_> (my instinct is we don't need it for project branches)
- # [21:15] <@ted> the general rule of thumb is "anything that's going to merge into m-c eventually"
- # [21:15] <@ehsan_> oh
- # [21:15] <@ted> it does suck if someone wants to do rapid dev on a project branch
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- # [21:15] <@ted> but if they're going to merge back...
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- # [21:16] <@ehsan_> does that mean that they need to get review on their changes?
- # [21:16] <@ted> i don't know if we have any way to distinguish "i'm going to use a project branch as a throwaway" and "i'm going to merge this project branch back to m-c"
- # [21:16] <@ehsan_> hmm
- # [21:16] <@ehsan_> do you know what we do for other similar things?
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- # [21:16] <gcp> who can delete comments from bugzilla?
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- # [21:17] <jdm> gcp: people in #bmo
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- # [21:18] <paul> dholbert: can't push… I tried many times. It times out. Any idea of what I could try?
- # [21:19] <dholbert> paul, no idea. RyanVM|sheriffduty / ehsan_ might know better, having seen that bug that RyanVM|sheriffduty linked to above
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- # [21:19] <dholbert> paul, (my guess about the problem was wrong; looks like you're instead hitting the thing RyanVM|sheriffduty linked to, which is an issue I'm unfamiliar with)
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- # [21:21] <paul> understood. thanks
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- # [21:22] <@ted> ehsan_: i think some of them allow you to override the check in the merge commit
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- # [21:23] <@ted> ehsan_: http://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom/hghooks/file/cacacc4b45e0/mozhghooks/commit-message.py#l78
- # [21:23] <@ted> like so
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- # [21:25] <jdm> what is the difference between firefox-backlog- and firefox-backlog+?
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- # [21:27] <froydnj> I think we keep ignoring things in the first category
- # [21:30] <@ehsan_> ted: so do you suggest that I should do something similar?
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- # [21:31] <@ted> ehsan_: it seems plausible
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- # [21:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: ping?
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- # [21:40] <@ehsan_> ted: so one thing I still don't understand. if we get the hook to enforce that each commit is reviewed this way, that will still prevent people from doing things on project branch
- # [21:41] <@ehsan_> ted: er, actually, where is commit-message currently deployed?
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- # [21:42] <Ms2ger> ehsan_, imo, turn it on on project branches
- # [21:42] <@ehsan_> Ms2ger: can you tell me why you think we should do that?
- # [21:42] * @ehsan_ doesn't have an opinion either way
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- # [21:43] <Ms2ger> Actually, I guess I don't care
- # [21:43] <Ms2ger> But I don't want an override
- # [21:43] <@ehsan_> jst: ping?
- # [21:43] <@ehsan_> yeah, having an override does suck
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- # [21:44] <Ms2ger> I guess we should disable it on twigs, so people don't put fake r='s to appease the hook
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- # [21:45] <davidb> the override should be r=yolo
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- # [21:47] <Ms2ger> davidb, let's add a hook to check for that, and kill the LDAP account of anybody who uses it
- # [21:48] <@ted> ehsan_: i don't know offhand
- # [21:48] <davidb> Ms2ger, ok, a=yolo
- # [21:48] <davidb> ;)
- # [21:48] <@ehsan_> ok, let me check with jst
- # [21:48] <paul> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping? I can't push to try… and for the hell of me, I can't figure out what's going on
- # [21:48] * @ehsan_ doesn't have a good answer
- # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> paul: same crap as usual
- # [21:49] <@ehsan_> paul: dholbert: sorry there was something one of you pinged me for an I missed it :/
- # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> trying pinging hwine, though I'm not sure you'll get a good reply there either
- # [21:49] <dholbert> ehsan_, paul is hitting the same push-to-try issue you hit a day or so ago
- # [21:49] <dholbert> ehsan_, he asked me for suggestions, I punted to you & a few others in case you had ideas
- # [21:49] <@ehsan_> ah
- # [21:49] * @ehsan_ digs up the bug#
- # [21:50] <paul> I pushed like, 30 times, it worked once.
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- # [21:50] <@ehsan_> paul: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994028
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- # [21:51] <dholbert> ehsan_, (yeah, RyanVM|sheriffduty mentioned that bug earlier. saw your comment there, which is why I punted to you. :) doesn't sound like we have any easy fix though)
- # [21:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, nothing I can do about it
- # [21:51] <@ehsan_> lol, no, I don't have much else to say
- # [21:51] <@ehsan_> well
- # [21:51] <@ehsan_> other than try again in a few hours
- # [21:51] <@ehsan_> that's what I did last time
- # [21:51] <hwine> paul: all the choices are at https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Problem_Diagnosis with next steps
- # [21:52] <Optimizer> that is why its called "try"
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- # [21:52] <dholbert> hwine, I think this is different; see the bug ehsan_ linked above
- # [21:52] <Optimizer> well, actually. it should be renamed to "tryAgain"
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- # [21:52] <paul> I'll file a bug.
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- # [21:52] <dholbert> hwine, oh, you're on that bug already
- # [21:52] <hwine> dholbert: "waiting for lock" is listed there
- # [21:52] <Optimizer> paul: there is one
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- # [21:53] <Optimizer> the one that ehsan pinged u
- # [21:53] <@ehsan_> hwine: I don't think https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Waiting_for_Lock is accurate
- # [21:53] <@ehsan_> see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994028#c16
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- # [21:53] <@ehsan_> I hit that problem twice, maybe with half an hour in between
- # [21:54] <philor> given the time of the last successful push, and yesterday's behavior, I'll bet there's going to be a wad of pushes going through in about two minutes
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- # [21:54] <hwine> that's a different case -- no change in pid. Feel free to add it to the wiki -- I can't see all the ways it fails :/
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- # [21:55] <@ehsan_> hwine: well I can add it to the wiki, not sure what description I should put under the entry
- # [21:55] * @ehsan_ adds it to the wiki
- # [21:55] <hwine> at the moment, we only have one hammer (a reset of try) ...
- # [21:56] <Optimizer> do we have loki ?
- # [21:56] <@ehsan_> but we had this exact bug once before
- # [21:56] <paul> I'll try later tonight, but it's been almost 2 hours
- # [21:56] <Optimizer> err. thor.
- # [21:56] * @ehsan_ can't find the old bug right now
- # [21:56] <hwine> ... consensus is that is a BIG HAMMER that we only want to use when devs agree pain is too great ...
- # [21:56] <@ehsan_> if my memory serves, that was not a usual reset try issue
- # [21:56] <hwine> ... we do need everyone's help in quantifying what "too much pain" is
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- # [21:57] <hwine> ehsan_: We may see some new symptoms of "slow" now that we don't use NFS on hg.m.o anymore
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- # [21:57] <gfritzsche> can dump() be ever buffered and its output in the terminal delayed?
- # [21:58] <hwine> but, am I correct that the overall definition of "pain" is "slowness"?
- # [21:58] <paul> well… I can't work.
- # [21:58] <@ehsan_> hwine: afaik, the "slowness" issue manifested as slow pushes, not unsuccessful ones
- # [21:59] <jryans> yes, currently it eventually aborts, so it's worse than "slow"
- # [21:59] <paul> I'll get some food, a good night of sleep, and hope to be able to push tomorrow :)
- # [21:59] <Optimizer> paul: any champagne left from yesterday ? ;)
- # [22:00] <hwine> hmm, let me talk with the dev services folks -- the current theory I'd heard was we're seeing client timeouts due to long push queues...
- # [22:00] <@ehsan_> hwine: also for the record, if we fixed bug 691459 we wouldn't need to agree on this every time :)
- # [22:00] <hwine> ... afaik, every time they have looked deep at a lock, it's been a valid push by another user...
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- # [22:01] <hwine> ... we do know that hg isn't "fair" in terms of who gets the next lock
- # [22:02] * hwine agrees with ehsan on bug 691459 -- I'll remind dev services of that as well
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- # [22:12] <froydnj> bjacob: you know, that patch would be a lot smaller if there was some good way to enforce that people said nsTArray<>::index_type always instead of just "knowing" that it's uint32_t
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- # [22:15] <tbsaunde> froydnj: but that would be supper ugly :/
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- # [22:16] <froydnj> tbsaunde: maybe not much uglier than vector<>::iterator stuff (though it doesn't matter too much now with |auto|)
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- # [22:17] <stephend> Waldo|lunch: ping when you return, if you would? re: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=982856
- # [22:18] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, auto might be ok, but I'm not really sure I like using it there because of over flow concerns
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- # [22:18] <froydnj> tbsaunde: overflow concerns?
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- # [22:18] <Waldo> stephend: pong, forgot to renick
- # [22:18] <Waldo> looking
- # [22:18] <tbsaunde> that is when I'm reviewing for (i = blah; i < bar; i++) I'd like to know if i is signed
- # [22:19] <bjacob> froydnj: that would be wonderful
- # [22:19] <stephend> thx Waldo, we see it all over our automation logs
- # [22:19] <tbsaunde> guess it matters more when its i--
- # [22:19] <stephend> Waldo: I can point you to logcats, if you need
- # [22:19] <froydnj> tbsaunde: ah, yeah. either way, I could see that
- # [22:19] <stephend> (I also have a meeting in 10, sigh)
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- # [22:20] <Waldo> stephend: yeah, I am in the middle of a bunch of security fixing, so that's fairly low on my list of things to do, to follow up on that WIP; it really would be better for someone regularly writing toolkit JS to run it to completion
- # [22:20] <Waldo> stephend: it's 99% of the way there, just needs a little bit of running to ground
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- # [22:20] <stephend> Waldo: do you think it might lead to a b2g/gecko process crash/hang?
- # [22:20] <froydnj> bjacob: it strikes me that your typedef-of-integral-types that don't interoperate with the builtin types thing (coming in c++14?) would be perfect here
- # [22:20] <Waldo> stephend: no
- # [22:20] <stephend> hrm, ok
- # [22:20] <stephend> just perf?
- # [22:21] <Waldo> stephend: yeah
- # [22:21] <stephend> context is that we see it during a connect_to_wifi() call
- # [22:21] <stephend> in our Python tests for Gaia
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- # [22:21] <stephend> and when we increase the timeout for the async polling, b2g crashes
- # [22:21] <stephend> but that might be separate
- # [22:21] <Waldo> stephend: it'll appear whenever someone decides to access Preferences.jsm for the first time; the person who does that isn't really the person at fault
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- # [22:21] <stephend> just saw this dumped in the logs
- # [22:21] <stephend> ah
- # [22:22] <bjacob> froydnj: ah yes, i would really love for that to happen. Is it coming in c++14 ? i dont remember
- # [22:22] <Waldo> stephend: the warning shouldn't do anything to behavior
- # [22:22] <stephend> ok, appreciate the info
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- # [22:22] <Waldo> bjacob, froydnj: botond said people have brought that up at ISO, can't remember if he said it was a definite thing or not yet
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- # [22:22] <tbsaunde> froydnj: so I think I'd just argue size_t was the right thing to use all along and since its defined to be the right thing assuming it is fine, and we're stupid for not having used it before
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- # [22:23] <bjacob> froydnj: on that patch review, dont hesitate to delegate parts of this patch adapting parts of gecko, to other reviewers... there is nontrivial choices there as to whether we should be concerned about overflow or not, that are domain-specific
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- # [22:25] <mchang> is it generally ok to use stl data structures in gecko?
- # [22:26] <Waldo> mchang: it depends on the data structure
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- # [22:26] <mchang> Waldo: hashmaps + deque?
- # [22:26] <Waldo> bjacob: which patch is being discussed here, out of curiosity?
- # [22:27] <Waldo> mchang: there's LinkedList.h that likely addresses the latter, #include "mozilla/LinkedList.h" and mfbt/LinkedList.h
- # [22:27] <Waldo> mchang: the former we mostly address with XPCOM hash map stuff
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- # [22:27] <Waldo> exact type dependent on what you're doing
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- # [22:27] <Waldo> I don't have our hash structures memorized enough to say what you would want in any particular case
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- # [22:28] <mchang> Waldo: alright thanks for the heads up
- # [22:28] <bjacob> Waldo: bug 1004098
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- # [22:29] <botond> Waldo: froydnj: bjacob: i think you guys are referring to the "opaque typedefs" proposal, which is definitely still very much in the discussion phase, and thus headed for c++17 at the earliest
- # [22:29] <bjacob> botond: thanks!
- # [22:29] <bjacob> botond: yes, opaque typedef does sound like what i want
- # [22:29] <botond> bjacob: the latest proposal can be found here: http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3741.pdf
- # [22:30] <bjacob> botond: if i make an opaque typedef for int, will it actually refuse to interop with int, or will the implicit conversions between int types kick in and make it silently work anyway?
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- # [22:32] <jimb> bjacob: In C? typedef is just a synonym, not a distinct type
- # [22:32] <botond> bjacob: good question. for opaque typedefs of class types, the proposal suggests having control over whether things like conversion operators to other types carry over to the new type. i'm not sure how this would work for built-in types
- # [22:32] <jimb> bjacob: oh, sorry, I see you're talking about something else
- # [22:32] <bjacob> jimb: :)
- # [22:32] <bjacob> botond: ok
- # [22:32] <jimb> bjacob: like the new 'enum class' stuff
- # [22:32] <bjacob> jimb: right
- # [22:33] <Waldo> bjacob: \o/ that is so something we should have done years ago
- # [22:33] <botond> bjacob: i think that an opaque typedef of int retaining int's implicit conversion to, say, long, would kind of defeat the purpose, so i'm inclined to say that it won't retain it
- # [22:33] <bjacob> Waldo: :)
- # [22:33] <bjacob> Waldo: botond: i could actually get what we want today by using enum class + custom defined operators
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- # [22:33] <bjacob> Waldo: botond: but that would be craziness
- # [22:34] <Waldo> o_O
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- # [22:34] <Waldo> bjacob: well...
- # [22:34] <Waldo> we have the hammers, we have the thumbs, why not?
- # [22:34] <bjacob> Waldo: haha
- # [22:34] <Waldo> I'm not even entirely sure I'm joking
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- # [22:35] <Waldo> although, I don't remember enough of our emulation to know just how faithful the underlying-type adherence would be if that were done, exactly
- # [22:35] <bjacob> Waldo: or maybe, the actualy way c++ is going, is we'll just implement this as a plain class, and have the new constexpr and "literal types" things help ensure somehow that this is as good as a POD type
- # [22:35] <Waldo> if it's not exact, it wouldn't be good enough
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- # [22:35] <Waldo> ah, yes, literal types and constexpr would be not too horrible, ish
- # [22:35] <bjacob> although, i dont know if it will ever be
- # [22:36] <bjacob> botond: is there a plan to allow passing class objects as template params?
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- # [22:36] <bjacob> Waldo: haha
- # [22:36] <Waldo> I...thought you could do that already if they were constexpr?
- # [22:36] <bjacob> Waldo: ah!
- # [22:36] <Waldo> but we don't have constexpr on all compilers, so, lol us
- # [22:37] <bjacob> hmm
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- # [22:37] <bjacob> constexpr is an anagram of proxen... nevermind
- # [22:37] <botond> bjacob: for a restricted subset of class types ("literal types"), there is a proposal: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3413.html
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- # [22:38] <bjacob> botond: ah thanks! and good to have a confirmation that "literal type" is what i want
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- # [22:43] <dholbert> paul / ehsan_ / hwine, hmm -- RE those try issues, it looks like no one has successfully pushed to try for the past ~2 hours: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try
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- # [22:43] <dholbert> last push there is honza at 11:55 am PDT (and it's now 1:43 pm PDT)
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- # [22:44] <erahm> Anyone else getting timeouts pushing to try?
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- # [22:44] <@ehsan_> that totally matches my expectation assuming that this were not a usual "need to reset try" issue
- # [22:44] <dholbert> erahm, yeah
- # [22:44] <hwine> dholbert: did you just time out -- you were pushing
- # [22:44] <dholbert> hwine, I've been interrupting my pushes after a few seconds
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- # [22:44] <dholbert> hwine, have an attempted push currently waiting, haven't interrupted it yet
- # [22:45] <erahm> hwine, dholbert: 2 actual timeouts for me
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- # [22:45] <dholbert> hwine, (when I've interrupted earlier attempts in the past few min, it's given me 'remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try/ held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:18064'")
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- # [22:45] <hwine> dholbert: sorry -- it was dteller who is pushing as of a few minutes ago
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- # [22:46] <dholbert> hwine, ah, np. I thought maybe you were inspecting the traffic to hg.mozilla.org & saw that I had an attempted push, or something :)
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- # [22:48] <hwine> so, would it be a huge help for folks to know _who_ was pushing when they have grief?
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- # [22:49] <hwine> hg doesn't have a queue of next-to-push requests, so # waiting (the more useful measure) isn't possible aiui
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- # [22:49] <poiru> erahm: Yes.
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- # [22:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: I'm going to call this patch f+ :)
- # [22:50] <erahm> so who do I bug about try tiemouts, or is it just standard behavior?
- # [22:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> still able to get a memory report even after running all day
- # [22:51] <erahm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: awesome, thanks for verifying
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- # [22:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 674.72 MB (100.0%) -- explicit vs. 1,664.89 MB ── resident
- # [22:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> is it just more or is that a tad wide?
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- # [22:54] <poiru> FWIW, I think I was able to *cause* the try lock issue a few weeks back by accidentally killing a push while it was in progress.
- # [22:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes, that's a known way to do it
- # [22:54] <sfink> Oh, my. Looks like I left a tbpl page open to aurora. That cost me 4.6GB of RAM.
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- # [22:54] <dholbert> hwine, I'm not sure I understand your question, if it's about the issues we're hitting today
- # [22:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: funny enough, about:memory is only showing ~20-25MB of explicit allocations for each tbpl tab I have open
- # [22:55] <erahm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's seems pretty large, I'm not sure what that indicates though…maybe fragmentation?
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- # [22:55] * Optimizer try, try, and try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try again
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- # [22:55] <Yoric> sfink: And Firefox didn't crash?
- # [22:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: i really have no idea how to interpret this report
- # [22:55] <dholbert> hwine, AFAICT the issue we're hitting today isn't a "oops someone else is currently pushing" problem. There have been no successful pushes for the past 2 hours. So if anyone is trying to push (and holding the lock), their process probably died, or something
- # [22:56] * Yoric thought we could not address that much RAM.
- # [22:56] <hwine> dholbert: does/did it help you understand to know that dteller was pushing to try during that time?
- # [22:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Yoric: 64bit builds FTW?
- # [22:56] <dholbert> hwine, I don't think so
- # [22:56] * RyanVM|sheriffduty is running a homebrew win64 build :)
- # [22:56] <Yoric> hwine: What have I done?
- # [22:56] <sfink> Yoric: well, the total explicit is 9.8GB, but yeah, it's nice to be on linux64.
- # [22:56] <erahm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm still learning :) maybe ping the the rest of the memshrink group
- # [22:56] <hwine> Yoric: did your recent push to try succeed?
- # [22:56] <dholbert> hwine, I tend to assume that any number of people may be pushing to try at the same time as me, but I trust queueing / locking to handle it
- # [22:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Yoric: attempted to run your patches through Try - SHAME ON YOU!
- # [22:56] <Yoric> hwine: nope
- # [22:56] * Yoric cowers in shame.
- # [22:57] <dholbert> hwine, as I said, no try pushes have succeeded for the past 2 hours
- # [22:57] <dholbert> from anyone
- # [22:57] <dholbert> as shown on Try TBPL
- # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Yoric: who's giving you such terrible advice?
- # [22:57] <hwine> Ahh -- that is new information to me -- that's different
- # [22:57] <Yoric> RyanVM|sheriffduty: He made me do it.
- # [22:57] <Yoric> Ok, in that case, I'll go and grab a shower.
- # [22:57] <Optimizer> everybody is blocking everybody
- # [22:57] <Yoric> I'll try again later.
- # [22:57] <WG9s> Optimizer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJnoMP1Uyc
- # [22:57] <dholbert> hwine, ah, ok. I said this ~15 min ago, but you must not have seen. :)
- # [22:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Optimizer: http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/3_stooges_syndrome.jpg
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- # [22:58] <hwine> dholbert: yes, sorry -- I just spotted the "timeout" questions
- # [22:58] <whimboo> bent: sweet. quick fix for the iscanceled assertion and crash
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- # [22:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: but yeah, it would be nice to have some idea for how to figure out where that missing GB is
- # [22:59] <Optimizer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but .. there is lot of space to the right of the gate ..
- # [22:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: I suppose that's something DMD would help with?
- # [22:59] <erahm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's a bit different, under explicit there's heap-unclassified, that's what DMD helps fill in the details on
- # [22:59] <hwine> dholbert: where are you looking to see that -- I see a number of try jobs submitted today
- # [22:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> erahm: oh wait, that actually explains a lot - "WARNING: the 'heap-allocated' memory reporter does not work for this platform and/or configuration. This means that 'heap-unclassified' is not shown and the 'explicit' tree shows less memory than it should. "
- # [22:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so yeah
- # [23:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> boo
- # [23:00] <dholbert> hwine, I'm looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try
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- # [23:00] <Optimizer> he meant last 2 hrs
- # [23:00] <Optimizer> not the whole day
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- # [23:00] <dholbert> yeah, I'm just talking about the last 2 hours
- # [23:00] <dholbert> last push is > 2 hours ago
- # [23:00] <dholbert> which indicates that something is blocking people from pushing
- # [23:00] <Optimizer> any there goes my first big cpp patch not going to try .. :(
- # [23:00] <dholbert> s/people/everybody/
- # [23:00] <Optimizer> can we hard reset ?
- # [23:01] <dholbert> Optimizer, that's probably not what we need in this case
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- # [23:01] <Optimizer> oh
- # [23:01] <dholbert> depending on what you mean by hard reset
- # [23:01] <Optimizer> can we unblock manually ?
- # [23:01] <Optimizer> unlock*
- # [23:02] <dholbert> Optimizer, I believe (?) hwine or someone else from RelEng/IT has the powers to do that, yes
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- # [23:02] <Optimizer> hwine: can you unlock for a sec so that i can push this thing to try . you can lock it again after that :)
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- # [23:03] <erahm> Optimizer: I don't believe it's locked intentionally
- # [23:03] <hwine> dholbert: Optimizer something else is going on -- Yoric had the lock for a bit, then he timed out
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- # [23:03] <Optimizer> erahm: i know
- # [23:03] <Optimizer> :P
- # [23:03] <Optimizer> i was just being selfish
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- # [23:03] <Optimizer> everyone, quick. stare Yoric
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- # [23:05] <paul> dholbert: alright. So it's not just me
- # [23:05] <dholbert> paul, yeah
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- # [23:05] <Optimizer> paul: http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/3_stooges_syndrome.jpg
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- # [23:07] <mmc> gavin, are you a github.com/mozilla owner?
- # [23:08] <mmc> if so, could i get a new team called seceng?
- # [23:08] <@gavin> I think so
- # [23:08] <@gavin> why do you want a team
- # [23:08] <mmc> because i'm working on pkix-compatibility-testing with martinthompson
- # [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4253ca7dfe1a - Isura Edirisinghe - Bug 946366 - Aggregate timeout for events waited on in WaitHelper.waitForPageLoad. r=mcomella
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- # [23:09] <mmc> and i can't add him directly as far as i can't tell
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- # [23:09] <mmc> gavin, https://github.com/mozilla/pkix-compatibility-testing/settings/collaboration
- # [23:09] <mmc> can only add teams, not people
- # [23:11] <@gavin> how about adding him to "blushproof"
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- # [23:12] <@gavin> I created a team and did something
- # [23:12] <@gavin> hope it doesn't break everything
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- # [23:16] <mmc> thanks gavin
- # [23:17] <mmc> the other blushproof people were complaining about github spam already :)
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- # [23:22] <seth> hmm. is there no way to ask mach not to colorize build output?
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- # [23:25] <mchang> anyone having trouble pushing try builds?
- # [23:26] <KWierso> mchang: known issue
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- # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0666ad474fa - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 999790: Make asm.js modules and functions constructible; r=luke
- # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3be37517e259 - Andrew Osmond - Bug 987954 - Change camera control size/region attributes to methods to remove direct JS_*() calls, r=bz,mikeh
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- # [23:29] <hwine> mchang: do you have a error message from your client by any chance?
- # [23:30] <mchang> hwine: sure, i’ve been trying to push for the past 3-4 hours
- # [23:30] <mchang> hwine: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5022698
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- # [23:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7576bf025af - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 978407 - Use glClear to clear deferred-init textures. - r=kamidphish
- # [23:31] <hwine> mchang: always the same? or did you ever get "searching for changes..."?
- # [23:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd28060279e7 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 978407 - Mark as cleared after glClearing. - r=kamidphish
- # [23:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af970f26f6ce - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 978407 - Static constants should have 'k' prefix. - r=kamidphish
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- # [23:31] <mchang> hwine: the error log has the searching for changes in there
- # [23:31] <mchang> hwine: if i ctrl-c, i get the same pid. If i wait for a timeout, i get a different pid
- # [23:31] <mchang> ont he next try
- # [23:32] <hwine> d'Uh -- under the weather -- thanks for pointing that out
- # [23:32] <mchang> hwine: np! Thx for trying to fix this
- # [23:32] <mchang> hwine: i was having some issues last night PST as well, but i think it was more related to my private ssh key
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- # [23:33] <hwine> mchang: yeah, at the moment we're not sure -- everyone seems to get a valid shot at the lock, but no one can complete the push
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- # [23:40] <mchang> hwine: I just ctrl-c my last push, this is new - https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5022765
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- # [23:40] <mchang> hwine: although i only have 1 changeset in my patch queue
- # [23:41] <gaston> seth: i think you can cheat with unsetting TERM= if you dont want colors
- # [23:41] <seth> gaston: hmm, interesting, i'll try that
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- # [23:41] <hwine> mchang: interesting -- thanks
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- # [23:42] <gaston> seth: mach has a different behaviour based on if not self.terminal: iirc, but gps|away will know more :)
- # [23:42] <seth> gaston: that doesn't seem to work here, alas
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- # [23:43] <hwine> mchang: would you mind pushing again with the global --debug option set, and attach the output to https://bugzil.la/994028 please?
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- # [23:44] <mchang> hwine: sure, so hg push -f try --debug?
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- # [23:44] <hwine> mchang: I believe hg --debug push ....
- # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/764c616ddf0a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
- # [23:45] <mchang> hwine: ok running
- # [23:46] <hwine> thx
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- # [23:49] <kgrandon> ah, anyone else having trouble pushing to try? =( Getting this: pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/try
- # [23:49] <kgrandon> remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:28994'
- # [23:49] <kgrandon> remote: abort: repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try: timed out waiting for lock held by hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:11978
- # [23:49] <kgrandon> abort: unexpected response: empty string
- # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c37e8f0d74d1 - Malini Das - Bug 995989 - fix APZ scrolling, r=dburns
- # [23:49] <mchang> kgrandon: yeah, check
- # [23:49] <philor> kgrandon: there's instructions in https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Pushes_to_try_take_a_very_long_time
- # [23:49] <mchang> kgrandon: known issue, check https://bugzil.la/994028
- # [23:49] <Gijs> Where's the bug for running m-bc per-directory? :)
- # [23:49] <philor> he said, with a completely blank expression
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- # [23:50] <philor> fun fact: it's all ehsan_'s fault
- # [23:51] <@ehsan_> ?
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- # [23:51] <@ehsan_> that's never good coming from philor!
- # [23:51] <@ehsan_> what did I do?
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- # [23:51] <philor> the consesus in the dev.platform thread about whether to keep the periodic resets of try was that "developers don't want periodic resets" but you're the only one I can find actually saying that
- # [23:51] <kgrandon> mchang: philor: Thank you for the links, checking now :)
- # [23:51] <philor> so it's entirely your fault that nobody has been able to push to try for three hours
- # [23:52] <@ehsan_> philor: which thread is that?
- # [23:52] <@ehsan_> clearly so!
- # [23:52] <philor> "Consensus sought - when to reset try repository?"
- # [23:52] <philor> February
- # [23:52] * @ehsan_ looks
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- # [23:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1546ce38ecd - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1003306 - part 1 - add PermissionManager/nsIPermissionManager to ServicesList.h; r=bsmedberg
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- # [23:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5f4469ec95e - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1003306 - part 2 - use services::GetPermissionManager everywhere that's appropriate; r=ehsan
- # [23:54] <@ehsan_> philor: I said "I would recommend doing that while we try to find a real solution." in response to hwine, so it's hardly all my fault
- # [23:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab6426d96c6d - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1003296 - use Services.jsm more in specialpowersAPI.js; r=jmaher
- # [23:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/060bea047502 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1003297 - part 2 - tidy up refcount management in mozilla::services::Get*; r=bsmedberg
- # [23:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f6e71553333 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1003297 - part 1 - don't try to return XPCOM services from mozilla::services getters post-XPCOM shutdown; r=bsmedberg
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- # [23:55] <philor> best idea yet: since cabanier actually filed the bug for a reset the instructions say we're supposed to file when we can't push, last Friday, everyone who wants to push to try should vote for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1001735, because, you know, votes!
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- # [23:57] <mchang> hwine: I attached the output to the bug
- # [23:57] <hwine> mchang: thanks
- # [23:58] <hwine> folks should feel free to chime in on https://bugzil.la/1001735 (I wasn't aware of that bug until now)
- # [23:58] <AutomatedTester> who needs try when we have inbound? yolo
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