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# [00:03] <philor> djvj: are you being hazardous?
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# [00:05] <philor> sure wish one of the hazard reports was simpleEnoughForEvenPhilorToUnderstand.txt
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# [00:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jgilbert: werror bustage :(
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# [00:06] <jgilbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, :<
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# [00:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jgilbert: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38896694&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [00:08] <jgilbert> ah, it just needs #ifdef DEBUG
# [00:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jgilbert: feel free to fix it CLOSED TREE :)
# [00:08] <jgilbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, will do
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# [00:15] <@gavin> ehsan: you might be interested in the bugs blocking https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996119
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# [00:19] <botond> ehsan: yep, works now on emulator too! ==> problem was 'out' parameters
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# [00:20] <gcp> MattN: ping
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# [00:20] <MattN> gcp: pong
# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d352709614b - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset af1cebf017fc (bug 994957) for hazards on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:21] <gcp> MattN: is updating addons ourselves for compatibility something that could be done?
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# [00:21] <MattN> unforunately the answer was no when I wanted to update ForecastFox a few weeks ago
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# [00:22] <MattN> you can submit a separate AMO listing if the license allows but jorge said we don't allow taking over a listing and offering updates for it
# [00:22] <mjrosenb> ok, unless someone wants to look into this possible deadlock that may or may not involve gstreamer, I'm going to nuke firefox, and hope it doesn't happen again.
# [00:22] <gcp> MattN: ok
# [00:22] <gcp> MattN: I will probably do that if there's no reply.
# [00:22] <MattN> I personally think we should allow taking over after N weeks of no response
# [00:23] <MattN> but that's a a policy thing
# [00:23] <gcp> forecastfox doesn't even have an open source license btw
# [00:23] <MattN> we can mark the old one as incompatible though
# [00:23] <MattN> yeah, I know
# [00:23] <gcp> i'd mark the old one as incompat and point to alternatives
# [00:23] <MattN> :(
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# [00:24] <MattN> I'm not sure if we will modify the description but top reviews could point to a replacement
# [00:24] <gcp> yep
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# [00:29] <djvj> philor: ?
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# [00:30] <philor> djvj: https://ftp-ssl.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-br-haz/20140501141859/
# [00:30] <djvj> philor: just saw bug comment. I guess I am. sorry.
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# [00:31] <philor> I even managed to find the place where I could vaguely understand the relationship to the patch, slightly!
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# [00:31] <djvj> philor: does the hazard info indicate where in the source it found it?
# [00:32] <djvj> ah, hazards.txt ?
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# [00:32] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jgilbert: you going to push that fix or shall I back you out so you can add it later? :)
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# [00:33] <philor> djvj: yeah, plus "sfink: um, uh, wtf?" if that isn't enough ;)
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# [00:34] <djvj> philor: where do I find hazards.txt?
# [00:34] <djvj> philor: or how can I run the analysis myself?
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# [00:35] <philor> djvj: https://ftp-ssl.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-br-haz/20140501141859/hazards.txt.gz and then you're in "sfink: um" territory
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# [00:35] <djvj> oh
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# [00:37] <djvj> it's probably the JSScript pointers being passed around there
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# [00:50] <sfink> interesting, you managed to get a GC call through a compiler temporary
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# [00:52] <jgilbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, I was backed out a while back already, I think
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# [00:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> oh right
# [00:53] <jgilbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, I have a fixed patch ready, but I was waiting until we re-opened
# [00:53] <jgilbert> I'm fairly sure it's safe to push now, but since you backed me out, I figured I'd wait
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# [00:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jgilbert: since you haven't pushed yet, does your fixed patch address the android mochitest failures?
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# [00:54] <jgilbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, no, thanks for pointing those out :(
# [00:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jgilbert: also https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38900050&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [00:56] <jgilbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, yeah, that is not good news
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# [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/870caf1f8e28 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
# [01:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/4ca4284e6ce8 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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# [01:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e706d0a4193 - sashakruglov - Bug 834502 - Need to cover more cases in test_click.py;r=automatedtester
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# [01:38] <jesup> grobinson: check that the patch isn't making this run so slowly that the test blow the timeout. Also: what does the CSP pref do? Does it cause any noticable extra processing (DB??) any network access? Any use anywhere of repeating-precise timers, or timer code in general?
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# [01:38] <jesup> Dump the logs in the tests and see if it simply didn't get to the finish, or stalled until it was killed
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# [01:39] <grobinson> jesup: ok, will do
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# [01:39] <jesup> also: it may very well be that this timing issue is exposed by a slow platform, and it's a race, or a missed lock, or some such. Very possible.
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# [01:40] <jesup> You can semi-emulate the AWS by restricting the threads all to one CPU/core if you can, or disabling all but one
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# [01:47] <grobinson> i just don't understand why changing the CSP parser would expose all of it
# [01:47] <grobinson> there isn't that much of a difference between the old parser and the new (which is what the pref flip controls)
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# [01:52] <jesup> grobinson: ^
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# [02:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> cong: you might try in #jetpack
# [02:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> I know the SDK team uses customizableui for stuff
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# [02:30] <mjrosenb> hrmm, nightly seems to be getting wedged somewhat frequently. :-(
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# [02:33] <mjrosenb> I remember in the past, being able to run autoconf rather than autoconf-2.13 after a directory had been autoconf'ed once.
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# [02:33] <mjrosenb> is this no longer the case?
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# [03:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e6296b804c2 - Viktor Stanchev - Bug 986160 - Create unit tests for the Gecko Profiler. r=benwa
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# [03:05] <cong> uh oh. i've create a buncha invisiable widgets in the customizable ui whatsamacallit.
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# [03:07] <mjrosenb> mconnor: strange... I guess I can always test it with my old machine
# [03:07] <mjrosenb> I wonder if debian had some magic that remembered which one you ran.
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# [03:08] <mconley> bsmedberg: ping
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# [03:10] <@dbaron> it turns out that if a loop increments by using "+p" instead of "++p", the loop never terminates... who knew? :-P
# [03:10] <@dbaron> I'm more disturbed by the fact that the slow script dialog isn't coming up
# [03:11] <cong> oh! we have to keep creating them on start. so do i create a custom widget with an icon? there isn't a property for icon here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/CustomizableUI.jsm/API-provided_widgets
# [03:11] <jcranmer> mconley: is tonight your ping-everybody night? :-)
# [03:12] <mconley> jcranmer: ping
# [03:12] <mconley> :)
# [03:12] <mconley> actually
# [03:12] <mconley> you might know
# [03:12] <mconley> so, I'm down in the bowels of... nsIDOMWindows and friends
# [03:12] <mconley> for e10s stuff
# [03:13] <mconley> jcranmer: is it possible to get to an nsContentTreeOwner from a XUL document element?
# [03:13] <jcranmer> it would be a lie if I said I've never been there before
# [03:13] <mconley> like
# [03:13] <mconley> every TabParent is, I believe, mapped to some kind of document element - I'm going to assume either tab element itself, or the browser associated with a tab
# [03:14] <mconley> and I want to somehow get to an nsContentTreeOwner. Am I way out in the weeds? Can that only be done from within web content?
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# [03:15] <jcranmer> you can get it from a dom window
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# [03:16] <jcranmer> [I would say you should know this, but then I remember that you probably don't plumb the bowels of compose window recycling]
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# [03:16] <jcranmer> well
# [03:16] <jcranmer> what you need is the docshell
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# [03:19] <mconley> right
# [03:19] <mconley> jcranmer: I seem to be able to get that
# [03:19] <jcranmer> how you get the docshell is kind of beyond my expertise
# [03:19] <jcranmer> but once you have that
# [03:19] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/compose/src/nsMsgCompose.cpp#903
# [03:19] <mconley> from the mFrameElement of the TabParent, I can get to the its owner document's (or current document's) docshell
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# [03:20] <mconley> jcranmer: the problem is when I do that, I get back an nsChromeTreeOwner
# [03:20] <mconley> which implements nsIDocShellTreeOwner, certainly
# [03:20] <jcranmer> oh, then you're outside my area of expertise
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# [03:22] <mconley> mine too. :/
# [03:22] <mconley> alright
# [03:22] <mconley> giving up for the night
# [03:22] <mconley> will try again tomorrow
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# [03:22] <jcranmer> hmm
# [03:23] <jcranmer> try a getInterface to an nsIWebBrowserChrome on the chrometree ?
# [03:23] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpfe/appshell/src/nsChromeTreeOwner.cpp
# [03:23] <jcranmer> follow that GetInterface to
# [03:23] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpfe/appshell/src/nsXULWindow.cpp#139
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# [03:24] <jcranmer> and mContentTreeOwner looks promising
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# [03:25] <cong> oh it needs css for icons
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# [03:28] <jcranmer> bz: ping
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# [03:30] <@bz> ack
# [03:30] <@bz> Anyone here planning to land anything soon?
# [03:31] <@bz> jcranmer: what's up?
# [03:31] <jcranmer> bz: I've been playing with promises from C++ code
# [03:31] <jcranmer> and, more notably, trying to get them usable from external API code
# [03:32] <@bz> mmm
# [03:32] <@bz> Needs exporting of some things, I bet?
# [03:32] <jcranmer> well
# [03:32] <jcranmer> PromiseNativeHandler definitely
# [03:32] <@bz> And possibly string issues
# [03:32] <jcranmer> and BindingUtils.h makes it impossible to include mozilla/dom/Promise.h
# [03:33] <@bz> hrmph
# [03:33] <KWierso|brb> bz: I'm merging trees around right now, if that counts as "landing anything soon"
# [03:33] <jcranmer> I don't think I can work around the PromiseNativeHandler bits... it still wants the vtable
# [03:33] <@bz> Why is Promise.h including bindingutils.h?
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# [03:33] <jcranmer> ToJSValue.h?
# [03:34] <@bz> KWierso|brb: just have a checkin-needed patch, but I can just set the keyword
# [03:34] * @bz looks
# [03:34] <@bz> hmm
# [03:34] <@bz> Why did I need bindingutils there?
# [03:34] <@bz> Oh, WrapNewBindingObject
# [03:35] <@bz> OK, why can't you include bindingutils.h?
# [03:35] <jcranmer> someone manually includes nsString.h
# [03:35] <@bz> (I mean, I thought I'd cut down its includes a good bit)
# [03:35] <@bz> aha
# [03:35] <@bz> yes, that's plausible
# [03:35] <@bz> one sec
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# [03:35] <jcranmer> and then it tries to use both internal and external string apis
# [03:35] <@bz> sure, sure
# [03:35] <@bz> we should just fix that
# [03:35] <@bz> bindingdeclarations only includes stringglue
# [03:35] <jcranmer> resulting in a massive crash and burn that blows everything up to heaven
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# [03:37] <jcranmer> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5034325
# [03:37] <jcranmer> ah, it comes from nsContentUtils.h
# [03:37] <@bz> oh
# [03:37] <@bz> Who's including nsContentUtils here?
# [03:37] <jcranmer> CallbackObject.h
# [03:38] <@bz> It shouldn't
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# [03:38] <@bz> I think back when it used to do cxpushers
# [03:38] <@bz> however....
# [03:38] <@bz> scriptsettings
# [03:38] <@bz> that includes cxpusher...
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# [03:38] <jcranmer> DOMJSProxyHandler.h also includes nsString.h manually
# [03:38] <@bz> in any case, nix nsContentUtils.h from CallbackObject.h
# [03:39] <@bz> That can use stringglue
# [03:39] <@bz> er, or nothing
# [03:39] <@bz> it does nothing with XPCOM strings
# [03:39] <jcranmer> who are we at now...
# [03:39] <jcranmer> Workers.h
# [03:39] * @bz sighs
# [03:40] <jcranmer> yeah, this is the problem...
# [03:40] <@bz> how is that getting pulled in?
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# [03:40] <jcranmer> BindingUtils.h
# [03:40] <@bz> oh, right
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# [03:40] <@bz> workers.h doesn't even use strings
# [03:40] <@bz> can nix
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# [03:41] <jcranmer> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5034364
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# [03:42] <@bz> um
# [03:42] <jcranmer> I guess that can be solved with a forward declare of mozilla::dom::Element
# [03:42] <jcranmer> ?
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# [03:42] <@bz> yes
# [03:42] <@bz> I assume so
# [03:42] <@bz> We should add that forward declare to BindingUtils.h
# [03:43] <@bz> Also, need to forward declare nsIInterfaceRequestor
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# [03:43] <jcranmer> yep
# [03:43] <@bz> Your next issue will be FakeDependentString
# [03:43] <jcranmer> yep
# [03:43] <@bz> That one is hard
# [03:44] <@bz> because it explicitly tries to be binary-compatible with nsDependentString
# [03:44] <@bz> But you don't have nsDependentString, right?
# [03:44] <@bz> We could throw in some ifdefs there...
# [03:44] <jcranmer> well, we do
# [03:44] <@bz> you do and it's binary-compatible?
# [03:44] <jcranmer> but it looks like this: http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpcom/glue/nsStringAPI.h?from=nsDependentString_external#932
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# [03:45] <jcranmer> internal and external strings are supposed to be binary-compatible, IIRC
# [03:45] <@bz> I guess the question is, what is its "terminated" flag?
# [03:46] <jcranmer> F_TERMINATED = 1 << 0, // IsTerminated returns true
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# [03:46] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpcom/string/public/nsXPCOMStrings.h#106
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# [03:47] <@bz> seems to be no equivalent?
# [03:48] <jcranmer> you can't specify flags directly
# [03:48] <@bz> right
# [03:48] <jcranmer> it all works via NS_String* methods
# [03:48] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpcom/glue/standalone/nsXPCOMGlue.cpp#572
# [03:48] <@bz> well, one option is to make all of FakeDependentString and anything that uses it ifdef internal API
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# [03:48] <@bz> since if external API is using it, they're doing it wrong
# [03:50] <jcranmer> sorry, that's not the same flags
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# [03:50] <jcranmer> I hate this internal/external API divide
# [03:51] <jcranmer> so I can make the enum in FakeDependentString and addd assertions that the flag values match nsString's enum
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# [03:55] <@bz> nah
# [03:55] <@bz> just ifdef out FakeDependentString
# [03:55] <jcranmer> wouldn't that kill the ability to convert JSValues to strings?
# [03:55] <@bz> Convert in what sense?
# [03:56] <jcranmer> oh, I guess you don't have a FromJSValue.h
# [03:56] <@bz> Yes
# [03:56] <@bz> If we start that way, we can make ConvertJSValueToString a template
# [03:56] <@bz> that works on either FakeDependentString on nsString
# [03:56] <@bz> er, or nsString
# [03:56] <@bz> We were considering doing that anyway
# [03:57] <mconley> bz: ping, when you're free
# [03:57] <@bz> Also, most consumers don't want the full mess of ConvertJSValueToString
# [03:57] <@bz> we could expose a nicer API
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# [03:59] <jcranmer> yay, this gets me compiling but not linking :-)
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# [04:00] <jcranmer> /src/build/trunk/mail/mailnews/base/test/../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsAutoPtr.h:925: undefined reference to `mozilla::dom::Promise::AddRef()'
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# [04:00] <jcranmer> yay for MOZ_FINAL causing devirtualization to calls :-/
# [04:00] <@bz> curious
# [04:00] <Bas> Is there any way for me to run Mach on a remote machine (i.e. I have my main dev machine, with my debug tree and everything, and now I want to run mochitests on another machine from that tree)
# [04:01] <@bz> ouch
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# [04:01] <jcranmer> well, I probably need to export enough of these calls anyways
# [04:01] <@bz> The fact that I can't make Foo.i sucks
# [04:01] <@bz> a lot
# [04:01] <@bz> Hugely
# [04:02] <jcranmer> oh, yay
# [04:02] <jcranmer> today's fun trick: people including nsContentUtils.h and not realizing it
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# [04:04] <jcranmer> I wonder if this is going to bust non-unified builds...
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# [04:05] <jcranmer> who wants to bet how many files I have to fix for not including nsContentUtils.h?
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# [04:07] <jcranmer> bz: *drink*
# [04:07] <mconley> Bas: I've never done that successfully, though I believe irving recently pulled something like that off with a VM
# [04:07] <jcranmer> /src/build/trunk/mail/mozilla/dom/bindings/CSSBinding.cpp: In function ‘bool mozilla::dom::CSSBinding::supports(JSContext*, unsigned int, JS::Value*)’:
# [04:07] <jcranmer> /src/build/trunk/mail/mozilla/dom/bindings/CSSBinding.cpp:24:23: error: ‘min’ is not a member of ‘std’
# [04:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a41caa97af9e - Mark Finkle - Bug 988650 - Telemetry tracking for sharing r=wesj,liuche
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# [04:08] <mconley> anybody in here have a minutes to chat about nsContentTreeOwners, and where they can be accessed from? :)
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# [04:09] <@bz> jcranmer: heh
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# [04:10] <jcranmer> /src/build/trunk/mail/mozilla/dom/bindings/XPathEvaluatorBinding.cpp:348:5: error: ‘nsContentUtils’ has not been declared nsContentUtils::XPConnect()->GetNativeOfWrapper(cx,
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# [04:11] <@bz> jcranmer: mmm
# [04:11] <@bz> we should include nsContentUtils.h in there
# [04:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/331ff822db4e - Mark Finkle - Bug 986095 - Part 4: Add JS Sessions and Events into TelemetryContract.java r=rnewman
# [04:11] <@bz> bindingHeaders["nsContentUtils.h"] = any(
# [04:11] <@bz> descriptorHasChromeOnly(d) for d in descriptors)
# [04:11] <Bas> mconley: Ugh, okay, thanks :)
# [04:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d0f12137f270 - Mark Finkle - Bug 986095 - Part 3: Track adding article to Reading List r=liuche
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# [04:12] <@bz> But clearly it's needed also in that case
# [04:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d08e05dc6253 - Mark Finkle - Bug 986095 - Part 5: Don't log missing Session on stopUISession r=rnewman
# [04:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1885c2bb0cc0 - Mark Finkle - Bug 986095 - Part 1: Track session for Reader viewer r=rnewman,liuche
# [04:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c7ba6c5851c9 - Mark Finkle - Bug 986095 - Part 2: Track sharing article from Reader viewer r=rnewman
# [04:12] <jcranmer> CGClassHasInstanceHook and hasInterfacePrototypeObject
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# [04:12] <@bz> yep
# [04:12] <@bz> The former if and only if descriptor.interface.hasInterfaceObject()
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# [04:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/660cc013d558 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 952721 - Base our decision to prerender transformed content on it's screen space size, not the untransformed size. r=tn
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# [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f3f46af11f38 - Chenxia Liu - Bug 977196 - Part 6: Finer grained Extras for SUGGESTION URLs r=mfinkle
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# [04:38] <jcranmer> yay argument-dependent lookup
# [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ed805b539088 - Sola Ogunsakin - Bug 977196 - Part 2: Loading URLs in about:home. r=liuche
# [04:38] <jcranmer> I think
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# [04:42] <jcranmer> w00t
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# [04:42] <jcranmer> I can resolve and then a promise from external code now!
# [04:42] <@bz> nice
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# [04:42] <jcranmer> so long as you're only using int32_t, int64_t, uint64_t, float, or double
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# [04:44] <jcranmer> and I can convert a JSVal to one of those values
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# [04:45] <@bz> We should add a FromJSVal
# [04:45] <jcranmer> I'm still working on making sure my magic all-converter-magic-stuff works
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# [04:47] <jcranmer> oh, I should also add
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# [05:01] <jcranmer> returning void in this magic thing isn't working
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# [05:07] <cabanier> a try build
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# [05:18] <jcranmer> argument-dependent lookpu
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# [08:53] <mjrosenb> does anyone know how to refer to a file-static variable in gdb?
# [08:54] <mjrosenb> oh, I can print it
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# [09:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4dce6f797661 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 1003620 - Add QR encoder library. r=paul
# [09:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4818ff85895c - YFdyh000 - Bug 1001794 - ""Help, About" does not show proper update channel in 29rc updated on beta channel" r=gavin
# [09:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d6e9c178000c - Manish Goregaokar - Bug 997570 - Trigger onsyncfrompreference handlers during construction of <preferences> tag. r=MattN
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# [09:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bd3714386e29 - Irving Reid - Bug 608820 - Set callbacks before invoking actions to avoid async races. r=mossop
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# [09:27] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
# [09:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: pong
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# [09:28] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Hi, do you know what the User Access Control (UAC) settings are on the mochitest windows servers?
# [09:29] <bobowen> Sorry, not sure if you're the right person to ask.
# [09:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hmmm good question
# [09:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: maybe the releng guys in #releng know this better
# [09:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess there might be some reference docs or so
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# [09:30] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: OK thanks, I'll ask there.
# [09:30] <bobowen> ... and look for the docs :)
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# [09:58] <RealRaven> Does anybody know whether mail filters use GLODA?
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# [10:02] <Unfocused> RealRaven: #thunderbird or #maildev would be more likely to know
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# [10:21] <NeilAway> Unfocused: did you see my question yesterday?
# [10:22] <Unfocused> er, nope
# [10:22] <NeilAway> must have been too late I guess
# [10:22] <NeilAway> Unfocused: what's the easiest way to disable addons in an offline Firefox profile?
# [10:22] <Unfocused> oh, i had a migraine last night - which resulted in a really early night :\
# [10:23] <Unfocused> aside from safemode?
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# [10:24] <NeilAway> Unfocused: sorry, by "offline", I mean I'm trying to do this across the network
# [10:24] <Unfocused> oh fun
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# [10:25] <Unfocused> just temporarily, or permanently?
# [10:26] <NeilAway> Unfocused: well, permanently is fine
# [10:26] <NeilAway> Unfocused: I guess deleting extensions.ini is a start?
# [10:27] <Unfocused> temporarily is easier, so given that type of answer i'll assume that ;)
# [10:27] <Unfocused> yea, delete that file
# [10:27] <Unfocused> and set the extensions.bootstrappedAddons pref to {}
# [10:28] <RealRaven> Unfocused: thanks - already asked there, everyone is asleep :)
# [10:28] <NeilAway> Unfocused: ok thanks
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# [10:54] <paul> glandium: there's this project we're working on in the devtools that we want to land but we don't want it to be built. A --enable-xxx option in the mozconfig would be nice. Do I just need to change the top level configure.in to introduce this new parameter?
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# [10:57] <paul> glandium: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5037498 ?
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# [11:16] <Yoric> Is try or ldap down?
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# [11:19] <nigelb> I believe rbryce is already on it.
# [11:20] <Yoric> thanks
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# [11:31] <Yoric> I also have repeatable marionette.errors.TimeoutException: TimeoutException: Connection timed out
# [11:31] <Yoric> Is that the same issue?
# [11:31] <paul> glandium: (I figured it out)
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# [12:13] <bbouvier> win 1
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# [12:16] <Gijs> Uhm...
# [12:16] <Gijs> remote: Could not connect to the LDAP server at ldap://ldapsync1.db.scl3.mozilla.com
# [12:16] <Gijs> when trying to pull mc
# [12:16] <Gijs> wat? :)
# [12:17] <jwatt> Gijs: rumore is that rbryce is working on it
# [12:17] <Gijs> (my default URL was set to SSH, but the issue remains)
# [12:17] <Gijs> good, I like rumours! :)
# [12:17] <Gijs> (or at least rumours like that...)
# [12:17] <jwatt> Gijs: so said Yoric an hour ago anyway
# [12:18] <Yoric> #it is on it
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# [12:37] <Gijs> I just successfully pushed to try, so it might be fixed now? :)
# [12:37] <Yoric> Yes, this appears to be fixed.
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# [13:16] <bbouvier> is there an easy way to amend a hg commit message of a commit with children?
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# [13:18] <Gijs> bbouvier: qimport the lot, qpop the others, edit the commit message with qref -e, qpush the others
# [13:19] <Gijs> bbouvier: although I wouldn't say that's "easy"
# [13:19] <Gijs> bbouvier: and you shouldn't do that with stuff that's already been pushed
# [13:19] <bbouvier> Gijs: it's not pushed yet, so i'll give it a try, thanks!
# [13:19] <Gijs> (oh, and I forgot the qfin -a at the end to make them back into real patches)
# [13:21] <bbouvier> Gijs: actually i already qfin all the patch queue, so i can't do that
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# [13:22] <reuben> bbouvier: you should be able to
# [13:23] <reuben> bbouvier: |hg qimport -r first:last| and then edit the patch queue normally
# [13:23] <Gijs> ^^ that. :)
# [13:23] <Gijs> bbouvier: hence my "qimport the lot" at the start.
# [13:24] <bbouvier> reuben: alright, but how to discard the already qfinished patches?
# [13:24] <Gijs> bbouvier: hg qpop ? :)
# [13:24] <Gijs> bbouvier: qimport will convert the qfinished things back into mq-managed csets
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# [13:26] <bbouvier> Gijs, reuben: fwiw, in the meanwhile i found out about histedit, which helps you a lot to edit old unpushed commits
# [13:26] <bbouvier> Gijs, reuben: thanks!
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# [15:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93b29053da8e - Yura Zenevich - Bug 1001945 - resetting timers to default before each test step. r=marcoz
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# [15:16] <@ted> do we actually need to use PromiseFlatString() anymore?
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# [15:17] <MarcoZ> Hi there! Do we have any more current build prerequisite setup instructions for Ubuntu for building Fennec than these? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android
# [15:17] <MarcoZ> These already fail at attempting Java 6.
# [15:17] <MarcoZ> +install
# [15:19] <mfinkle> MarcoZ, that link is the current instructions
# [15:19] <MarcoZ> mfinkle: Then they are utterly broken.
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# [15:20] <mfinkle> MarcoZ, "First install the Sun Java jdk6, which the Android SDK depends on. If you're on Ubuntu (pre-11.10), you'll need to enable the partners repo to get it. Java 7 should work, although occasionally breaks (java 6 is what the buildbots use, so that's the "officially supported" one). "
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# [15:21] <MarcoZ> mfinkle: I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.
# [15:21] <Ms2ger> ted, I don't think so
# [15:21] <Ms2ger> NeilAway would know
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# [15:21] <MarcoZ> mfinkle: And oh btw, these separate chapters often have totally different instructions than the "quick script" in the section above it.
# [15:22] <mfinkle> the "quick script" doesn't work everywhere
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# [15:22] <mfinkle> MarcoZ, you have not told me what is actually happening
# [15:23] <mfinkle> "failing to install Java 6" is a bit vague
# [15:23] <MarcoZ> "Unknown package oracle-java6-install".
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# [15:24] <mfinkle> when you attempt: sudo apt-get install oracle-java6-installer
# [15:24] <mfinkle> ?
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# [15:25] <MarcoZ> Yeah I meant the installer. Was trying to execute this line, copied and pasted from the instructions: sudo apt-get install oracle-java6-installer mercurial ccache
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# [15:25] <MarcoZ> The error message was just typed from memory.
# [15:25] <mfinkle> did you setup the ppa
# [15:25] <MarcoZ> I have no idea what that is...
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# [15:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> MarcoZ: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/oracle-sun-java-6-installer-available.html
# [15:26] <mfinkle> MarcoZ, neither do i, but https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java has some info
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# [15:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d07c627b749f - Mike de Boer - Bug 1004915: rename 'FoundTooManyMatches' to 'FoundMatchesCountLimit'. r=Unfocused.
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# [15:28] <tbsaunde> mfinkle: I was pretty sure we used openjdk on build slaves...
# [15:28] <mfinkle> tbsaunde, you would probably know better than i
# [15:29] <mfinkle> that info from the wiki could be dated
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# [15:29] <tbsaunde> I wouldn't trust anything that talks about ubuntu 11.10 at this point ;)
# [15:29] <tbsaunde> and using anything other than openjdk is madness
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# [15:36] <Ms2ger> OH: "I am testing a clobber on try now."
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# [15:49] <MarcoZ> Whatever...
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# [15:55] <Gijs> Who knows about the network prefetch service?
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# [15:57] <sheppy> Web APIs documentation meeting in 2 hours! Everyone's welcome. See https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WebAPI-docs-2014-05-02 for agenda and attendance instructions. Feel free to add anything you'd like to discuss.
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# [16:17] <nemo> https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1403_02-08_mickens.pdf
# [16:17] <nemo> which I found in the far scarier
# [16:17] <nemo> http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/worst-common-denominator-programming
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# [16:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e3c1fffb0145 - Mike de Boer - Bug 978861: disable prefillWithSelection on OSX by default, fix its semantics when enabled. r=ehsan
# [16:22] <NeilAway> ted: yes
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# [16:23] <NeilAway> ted: XPCOM parameters are abstract strings, so you can pass a substring (people do abuse that though, and just call BeginReading and assume it's terminated...)
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# [16:25] <@ted> NeilAway: okay
# [16:25] <@ted> NeilAway: but in a specific case if i'm just passing in a nsCString to a local function i can just call .get
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# [16:26] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, so Flat is not flat, but NullTerminated?
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# [16:27] <NeilAway> ted: if you have an nsCString then PromiseFlatCString will fail to compile!
# [16:27] <Honza> It looks like xul:textbox is broken in Nightly. When I pick somehing from the associated drop down (history popup) the text value (of the box) is not changed. It works in Aurora. Any pointers?
# [16:27] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: at one point tuples had abstract strings as their base class
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# [16:28] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, yeah, but today
# [16:28] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, nobody bothered to do the tree-wide rename
# [16:28] <Ms2ger> Right
# [16:28] <Ms2ger> Calling ehsan!
# [16:29] <Gijs> Honza: checked bugzilla yet?
# [16:29] <NeilAway> Honza: failing that, 754265 might have broken something
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# [16:31] <@ted> NeilAway: heh
# [16:31] <Honza> Gijs: I can't find anything...
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# [16:33] <Gijs> Honza: then file it, I guess :)
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# [16:33] <Gijs> Honza: for bonus points, try and find the regression range / bug
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# [16:33] <Honza> Gijs: yeah, I'll yet check the 754265 and file a report
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# [16:34] <Gijs> sounds good!
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# [16:34] <Gijs> Honza: do you know who knows the network prefetch service, by the way? :)
# [16:35] <Gijs> Honza: seeing as you work on networking cache... I'm hopeful you can point me to the right person to look at bug 1003680
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# [16:35] <mayhemer> Gijs: you are talking to a diffent Honza :)
# [16:35] <mayhemer> mayhemer is the one :) - me
# [16:35] <Honza> Gijs: you are looking for mayhemer :-)
# [16:35] <Gijs> oh
# [16:35] <mayhemer> :)
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# [16:35] <Gijs> that's... confusing >_>
# [16:35] <Gijs> sorry!
# [16:36] <Honza> np, not the first time ;-)
# [16:36] <Gijs> mayhemer: alright, well, in that case... do you know who I could point at this bug? :)
# [16:36] <mayhemer> Gijs: # ?
# [16:36] <mayhemer> ah
# [16:36] <mayhemer> 1003680
# [16:36] <Gijs> mayhemer: tbh, I'm not even sure the extra requests are coming from the prefetch service
# [16:36] <Gijs> yes
# [16:36] <Gijs> but it seems plausible
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# [16:37] <Gijs> (I've at least verified that I still see requests if I disable JS on the page, so it doesn't seem to be a webpage thing)
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# [16:39] <mayhemer> Gijs: I don't my self (accroding cause of the bug), try jduell or bz
# [16:40] <Gijs> mayhemer: great, thanks!
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# [16:58] <Gijs> What's the quicksearch field for bug age? Like, how do I quicksearch for bugs filed in the last week?
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# [17:40] <Pike> does anyone have the bug number for archiving old repos around?
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# [17:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f4e9cf85af8 - Terrence Cole - Bug 989414 - Allocate Lamba objects in the nursery; r=jonco
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# [17:42] <Pike> got it, thanks
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# [17:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: fx-team orange
# [17:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=38939971&tree=Fx-Team
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# [17:44] <mikedeboer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, checking...
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# [17:50] <till> mhoye: ping
# [17:51] <till> or, jdm: ping
# [17:51] <jdm> till: ?
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# [17:51] <mhoye> what are the haps?
# [17:51] <till> mhoye, jdm: is there documentation on MDN for which whiteboard tags to use for mentored bugs?
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# [17:52] <till> or on WMO, I guess
# [17:52] <mikedeboer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, I'll back it out...
# [17:52] <mhoye> Not on MDN, I don't think.
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# [17:52] <mhoye> But I need to fix that.
# [17:52] <jdm> I think there's a page on wikimo
# [17:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: thanks
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# [17:52] <jdm> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mentors
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# [17:52] <till> ah
# [17:52] <till> I only found I know of https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Coding/Mentoring, but for all the good
# [17:53] <till> heh
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# [17:53] <till> that wasn't what I expected to have in my clipboard
# [17:53] <mhoye> Honesty in ring buffers.
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# [17:53] <mhoye> till: Give me an hour or two.
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# [18:01] <SJW> Who can I contact about that? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all
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# [18:02] <SJW> I already wrote a mail, but there is no response since a week.
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# [18:03] <mikedeboer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so I push the backout now to un-close the tree?
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# [18:04] <mikedeboer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: IOW I caused the tree to be closed?
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# [18:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: yes
# [18:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> CLOSED TREE in your commit message
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# [18:05] <mikedeboer> fun.
# [18:05] <mikedeboer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: done.
# [18:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f4782d7db879 - Mike de Boer - Backed out changeset e3c1fffb0145 (bug 978861) due to m-o test failures. CLOSED TREE
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# [18:06] <mikedeboer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I leave it up to you whether you think it's necessary to keep it closed until everyting goes green again.
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# [18:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: nah, thanks
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# [18:08] <ttaubert> and I thought there was an unwritten rule that you have to work in the "CLOSED TREE" into your commit msg elegantly
# [18:10] <mikedeboer> I guess on your definition of 'elegance', I thought it was, nicely tailed
# [18:10] <mikedeboer> *that depends on your def...
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# [18:12] <ttaubert> mikedeboer: it is indeed nicely at the end
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# [18:13] <mikedeboer> ttaubert: so now I don't see it in the TBPL page and it looks like it never happened... hushed away
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# [18:14] <mikedeboer> ;)
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# [18:16] <ttaubert> heh
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# [18:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: I always put it on the second line of the commit message ;)
# [18:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that's the stealthy way of doing it from a TBPL standpoint :P
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# [18:18] <mikedeboer> oeh! I like that one :)
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# [18:22] <nemo> Someone using Windows 8
# [18:22] <nemo> And firefox stable
# [18:22] <nemo> Complains that as the number of firefox tabs goes up, they start getting text/image corruption, then windows eventually bluescreens
# [18:23] <nemo> they sent this screenshot of their about:support graphics section
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# [18:23] <nemo> http://puu.sh/8we3b.png
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# [18:23] <nemo> I'm wondering if anyone here could do anything at all useful with that information
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# [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5e1f22e16fa4 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 995300 - When the location bar grows vertically due to an increased font size, the forward button should grow as well to match the location bar. r=mdeboer
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# [18:30] <jimm> nemo: did they try to reproduce in safe mode? maybe some addin is misbehaving.
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# [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/70624c10ee1c - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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# [18:33] <nemo> jimm: an addon that would cause windows to crash?
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# [18:33] <nemo> jimm: anyway, they said they are going to run memtest86 tonight
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# [18:36] <jimm> nemo: if it was sucking up tons of free memory, yeah
# [18:36] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I was unable to create additional tests for a try push
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# [18:37] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I sent the job 3 times and it passes android. I also updated the bug number in the patch :-)
# [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cabanier: what do you mean? You clicked the + and nothing happened?
# [18:37] <nemo> jimm: 32 bit firefox on 64 bit windows w/ 8gigs of ram
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# [18:37] <nemo> jimm: so unless you mean plugin :)
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# [18:37] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I clicked it and it asked for my password
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# [18:37] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I entered it, but it didn
# [18:38] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: didn't acceptit
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# [18:38] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looks like I don't have permission
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# [18:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> odd, you dont' have any LDAP credentials?
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# [18:39] <Pike> you might not have a password sent out, though
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# [18:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cabanier: you might want to follow up on that problem w/ IT :)
# [18:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cabanier: for now, if you want to send me a link to your latest Try run, I can retrigger them
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# [18:42] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=153fcd334f5d
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# [18:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cabanier: have another 25 runs :P
# [18:48] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :-)
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# [18:50] <josh> where should I file bugs about the code in dom/fmradio?
# [18:50] <josh> doesn’t seem to be a category in core or b2g
# [18:51] <josh> I guess Dom: Device Interfaces
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# [19:55] <@bz> pike: ping
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# [19:56] <Pike> on a call, sorry
# [19:56] <@bz> pike: ok
# [19:56] <cabanier> RyanVM|sheriffduty: seems like it's passing :-)
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# [20:01] <@bz> uh
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# [20:02] <@bz> Instruments on 10.9 no workee?? :(
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# [20:04] <@bz> wtf?
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# [20:06] <@bz> This sucks
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# [20:06] * @bz should totally not have gotten a Mac, if they broke profiling....
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# [20:07] <BenWa> It should work, let me try
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# [20:07] <@bz> it's totally not
# [20:07] <@bz> I mean, I have a Firefox at 100% of one core
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# [20:07] <tbsaunde> bz: I'd say you could come back to the side of truth light and everything that is good, but I've heard a lot of complaining about perf too
# [20:07] <@Cwiiis> is the talos pages directory available anywhere? If not, any advice on reproducing svg tests locally?
# [20:07] <@bz> but instruments claims that after 44 seconds of profiling it has seen 20ms of runtime
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# [20:08] <@bz> and int particular, it seems to be getting no main-thread samples at all
# [20:08] <BenWa> bz: ‘Seperate by Thread’
# [20:08] <@bz> Doesn't matter
# [20:08] <BenWa> If all fails try the sampler from the Activity Monitor
# [20:08] <@bz> Both checking and unchecking that has the same behavior.
# [20:08] <@bz> well, I can do that
# [20:08] <@bz> but it's pretty limited
# [20:08] <@bz> it _does_ return about what I expect
# [20:08] <@bz> just really hard to work with
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# [20:09] <BenWa> Must be an option or something somewhere. What xcode version are you running?
# [20:09] <BenWa> I’m running Version 5.0.1 (51168)
# [20:09] <BenWa> of Instrument that is
# [20:09] <@bz> 5.1.1 of XCode
# [20:09] <@bz> 5.1.1 (55045) of instruments
# [20:10] <@bz> On 10.8 this all worked fine....
# [20:10] <@bz> (with an older xcode/instruments, of course)
# [20:10] <BenWa> I hope they didn’t regress it :(
# [20:10] * @bz bets they did
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# [20:11] <@bz> even doing a "whole system" profile doesn't show any samples for that process
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# [20:12] <@bz> really bizarre. :(
# [20:13] <BenWa> bz: If this helps (unlikely) this is my configuration: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1slgntpm0ypnsmh/Screenshot%202014-05-02%2014.13.10.png
# [20:13] <BenWa> Notice I get the BGMonitorThread
# [20:14] <@bz> That's the same as mine
# [20:14] <@bz> They just broke something. :(
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# [20:14] <@bz> I tried profiling a different testcase, where Firefox doesn't completely hang, and I get a bit more..
# [20:14] <@bz> but the handling of jitcode is totally busted. :(
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# [20:15] <BenWa> You could try ‘Record waiting threads’ if they broke the thread status stuff
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# [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c69333201bc7 - Honza Bambas - Bug 976171 - crash in mozilla::net::CacheIOThread::LoopOneLevel(unsigned int), r=michal
# [20:16] <@bz> uh
# [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acbdfd79dbb5 - Honza Bambas - Bug 1004185 - Temporarily turn HTTP cache v2 on for Firefox Desktop users, round 2, r=jduell
# [20:16] <@bz> so...
# [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a6a5bfdedc6 - Michal Novotny - Bug 913819 - HTTP cache v2: preload several chunks in advance in input stream to speed up reading, r=honzab
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# [20:17] <@bz> With that, it seems to think that "Main Thread" is spending all its time waiting on a condvar in WatchdogMain
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# [20:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/193c049cea42 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 896711: remove BrowserChromeTests.runWhenReady because it's being abused, r=dao/ttaubert/vporof
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# [20:18] <@bz> which seems highly dubious
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# [20:18] <BenWa> I get the waiting for events mach_msg_trap
# [20:18] <@bz> are you loading a testcase that hangs the browser? ;)
# [20:18] <@bz> 'cause I am
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# [20:18] <@bz> hangs with 100% CPU usage
# [20:18] <@bz> in layout
# [20:18] <BenWa> Got one handy?
# [20:18] <@bz> Sure
# [20:18] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1003427
# [20:18] <@bz> Which is what I'm trying to look at
# [20:19] <@bz> So you have xcode 5.0?
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# [20:19] <BenWa> bz: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ygjyetn781mrgc/Screenshot%202014-05-02%2014.19.41.png
# [20:19] <BenWa> Yes this is messed up
# [20:20] <@bz> huh
# [20:20] <BenWa> bz: No. I’m reproducing what you see with this test case
# [20:20] <@bz> you're getting that too?
# [20:20] <BenWa> Yes
# [20:20] <@bz> weiiiird
# [20:20] <BenWa> Empty profile without that option
# [20:20] * @bz should try on his 10.8 machine
# [20:20] <BenWa> Since it’s a hang a debugger might be more useful
# [20:21] <@bz> that depends
# [20:21] <@bz> I mean, eventually, yes
# [20:21] <@bz> but I'm trying to get a feel for where I need to debug
# [20:21] <@bz> And also, would be good to have a working profiler in general...
# [20:21] * @bz makes a note to try on his 10.8 system
# [20:21] <BenWa> bz: I wonder if you’re hitting a recursion limit. The stack seems really deep
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# [20:22] <@bz> mmm
# [20:22] <@bz> That's possible
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# [20:24] <BenWa> This is #539 frames tall so likely related to your problem
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# [20:28] <Pike> bz: pong
# [20:30] <@bz> pike: this bug only shows up in localized nightlies?
# [20:30] <@bz> Pike: I'm building a local aurora tip just to check, fwiw
# [20:30] <Pike> bz: QA has said it works in german and two other languages, but not in zh-CN
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# [20:30] <@bz> pike: that is ... quite weird
# [20:31] <Pike> bz: exaaaactly
# [20:31] <Pike> I wonder if anything can bust the about: providers or something
# [20:31] * @bz experiments
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# [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e0c131fc557 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1004313: Handle partial flushes correctly in nsBufferedOutputStream::WriteSegments. r=mcmanus
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# [20:37] <@bz> hrm
# [20:37] <@bz> Pike: so in that build
# [20:37] <@bz> Pike: in a browser scratchpad
# [20:37] <@bz> Cc["@mozilla.org/network/io-service;1"].getService(Ci.nsIIOService).newChannel("about:newtab", null, null)
# [20:37] <@bz> throws
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# [20:38] <@bz> the corresponding newURI call succeeds
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# [20:38] <Pike> oh hai
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# [20:38] <@bz> chrome://browser/content/newtab/newTab.xul does load...
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# [20:39] <@bz> So newChannel there will return NS_ERROR_MALFORMED_URI
# [20:39] <@bz> but only if NS_ERROR_FACTORY_NOT_REGISTERED
# [20:39] <ashughes> bz: anything I can do to help evaluate impact of bug 1004992?
# [20:39] <@bz> newURI does NOT make that check
# [20:39] <ashughes> I'd like to know if we can ship Aurora updates with this bug
# [20:40] <@bz> ashughes: well, opening a new tab is totally broken in some localizations
# [20:40] <@bz> ashughes: right?
# [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c9496405c1a - Benoit Girard - Bug 1005204 - Enable JSStreamWriterTest. no reviews, just enabling a test.
# [20:40] <ashughes> right, but if it's just a small set of users impacted I'm inclined to let it go, knowing that we can push updates within 24 hours
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# [20:41] * @bz has no idea
# [20:41] <@bz> find out which localizations are affected?
# [20:42] <ashughes> Pike, can you clarify your steps to reproduce?
# [20:42] <ashughes> I'm not sure what you mean by "Create empty dir"
# [20:42] <@bz> The steps to reproduce in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004992#c14 are trivial
# [20:42] <@bz> Just create a directory for the profile to live in
# [20:42] <@bz> you don't even have to; the firefox command given will do it
# [20:42] <ashughes> ah, okay, that makes more sense
# [20:42] <ashughes> thanks for clarifying
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# [20:43] <Pike> oh, I still do that every time, because it didn't use to
# [20:44] <Pike> note-to-self
# [20:44] <ashughes> I'll work to see how broadly reproducible this problem is
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# [20:46] <@ehsan> BenWa: ping
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# [20:46] <BenWa> ehsan: pong
# [20:46] <@ehsan> BenWa: so, why do we want to instrument vprintf_stderr??
# [20:47] <@ehsan> BenWa: as opposed to let the profiler know about things like display list dumps?
# [20:47] <BenWa> ehsan: Because its single point that will get me (1) The layers dump, (2) The display list, and other debugging stuff
# [20:47] <@ehsan> BenWa: what's "other debugging stuff" though?
# [20:48] <kats> BenWa: keep in mind that logcat is not 100% reliable, if it's flooded you could miss output
# [20:48] <BenWa> Well I can go in the code and say printf_stderr(“Rasterizing layer %i, %i, %i, %i\n”, x, y, w, h);
# [20:48] <BenWa> kats: I’m not getting it from logcat, I’m Tee-ing right before
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# [20:48] <kats> BenWa: oh i see, i misread the patch
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# [20:49] <@ehsan> BenWa: I understand that, my question is, why do you want to do that in printf_stderr, as opposed to, printf_profiler or something?
# [20:49] <BenWa> ehsan: and modify all the gecko code?
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# [20:50] <BenWa> ehsan: modify each call site to printf to the two destinations?
# [20:50] <@ehsan> BenWa: no, just modify where we dump the display lists and layers
# [20:50] <@ehsan> BenWa: err, let me clarify my suggestion
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# [20:50] <BenWa> ehsan: it’s useful in the profile being able to watch what we were logging at the time because it can give you hints as to what we were doing
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# [20:51] <@ehsan> BenWa: I'm suggesting adding another printf function which will print stuff in a way that is visible to the profiler as well as make them go to stderr
# [20:51] <@ehsan> BenWa: but printf_stderr won't give you that, would it?
# [20:51] <BenWa> I don’t think we really need stuff to ever only go to printf_stderr
# [20:51] <@ehsan> that only gives you the stuff that goes to stderr
# [20:51] <@ehsan> and only a subset of it
# [20:51] <@ehsan> we don't?
# [20:51] <BenWa> Well we’re moving all our logging to printf_stderr
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# [20:52] <@ehsan> who's "we" here?
# [20:52] <BenWa> ehsan: members for #developers, platform developers
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# [20:52] <@bz> pike: something is failing to register the browser about redirector module?
# [20:52] <kats> if you need the log output on mobile, printf_stderr is the only sane way to get it
# [20:52] <@ehsan> BenWa: my point is, stderr is only used for logging in some exceptional cases
# [20:52] <BenWa> Are there any serious downside to logging everything to the profiler
# [20:52] <@ehsan> it's not a general logging API
# [20:53] <BenWa> ehsan: It’s true
# [20:53] <@ehsan> yes, it's costly
# [20:53] <BenWa> But we don’t need to get a subset of it
# [20:53] <kats> ehsan: i think printf_stderr is turning into a general logging API
# [20:53] <BenWa> printf_stderr is already incredibly costly
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# [20:53] <@bz> Hit MOZ_CRASH(nsDocument not thread-safe) at ../../../../mozilla/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp:1764
# [20:53] <@bz> That's a debug aurora build
# [20:53] <BenWa> kats: and that’s a mistake but we don’t have a better alternative in practice :(
# [20:53] <@ehsan> BenWa: that's a poor reason to make it even more costly ;)
# [20:53] <Ms2ger> Whoa
# [20:54] <@ehsan> bz: :(
# [20:54] <BenWa> ehsan: We only pay the cost when profiling
# [20:54] <Pike> thread safety in China works differently?
# [20:54] <@bz> not reproducible, sadly
# [20:54] <@bz> This is my own build
# [20:54] <@bz> not the cn one
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# [20:54] <@ehsan> BenWa: yeah I know, but don't we want to minimize the cost of things only when the profiler is turned on?
# [20:55] <kats> if only we had one unified logging framework to rule them all
# [20:55] <@bz> Pike: so we should figure out why registration is failing....
# [20:55] <@bz> But I have to run
# [20:55] <BenWa> ehsan: So normally we don’t log much to stderr so normal profiles will still work fine
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# [20:55] <BenWa> ehsan: if you enable display list dumps you’re going to regress a ton of performance and yes this does slow things down further.
# [20:56] <BenWa> But at that point you’re debugging, not profiling
# [20:56] <@ehsan> hmm
# [20:57] <BenWa> the performance impact will skew your profiles, but its still good enough to say ‘Wow, that displaylist construction was insane, what was the displaylist ON THAT FRAME'
# [20:57] <@ehsan> BenWa: I'm already sold on the idea of exposing things like display list dumps and layer dumps to the profiler :)
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# [20:57] <BenWa> Ok :)
# [20:58] <@ehsan> I'm trying to understand why you're insisting in exposing everything else
# [20:58] <@ehsan> (genuine question)
# [20:58] <BenWa> ehsan: Do you agree that the runtime/bloat cost is justified for this patch? If you disagree that the runtime cost when activated is bad we can land it and re-evaluate if we get a lot of samples in this code
# [20:59] <@ehsan> bz_away: we really really really need to make MOZ_ASSERTs dump assertion stacks :(
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# [20:59] <@ehsan> BenWa: so the burden of the proof is one me? ;)
# [20:59] <BenWa> nono
# [21:00] <@ehsan> which bloat cost btw?
# [21:00] <BenWa> ehsan: It’s good to tab here because (1) we don’t have to change how displaylist/layers dump is logged. It’s got like 20 call sites
# [21:00] <BenWa> ehsan: like 20 lines of c++ per build
# [21:00] <BenWa> tab/tap
# [21:00] <@ehsan> BenWa: can you point me to that code please?
# [21:00] <BenWa> I mean the code in the patch
# [21:00] <BenWa> It’s the only additional bloat we take on
# [21:00] <@ehsan> oh I'm not worried about that code bloat!
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# [21:01] <BenWa> (2) if we come across other debugging feature that are compatible with logcat, we just have to modify cleopatra
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# [21:02] <@ehsan> BenWa: let me go and read the display list dumping code... maybe there's something there that I don't understand
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# [21:02] <BenWa> So we risk sometimes skewing profiles by logging too much in the profiler, and we’re gaining a patch that is very isolate and non-invasive and we can easily get other debugging things in the profile
# [21:02] <BenWa> ehsan: can we skype?
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# [21:02] <@ehsan> sure
# [21:02] <BenWa> (or vidyo if anyone else wants to join)
# [21:02] <@ehsan> either wfm
# [21:03] <@ehsan> BenWa: wanna vidyo into my room?
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# [21:04] <Ms2ger> ehsan, OH for you: "Every developers hunt for the best editor ends up with Vim, Emacs or a management position."
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# [21:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: I'd like emacs better if it had sanish keyboard shortcuts
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# [21:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but no, let's do copy, paste, select all, etc with different combos than ANYTHING ELSE
# [21:08] <shu> you mean everything else decided to do things differently than emacs ;)
# [21:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hush you!
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# [21:10] <BenWa> ehsan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsLayoutUtils.cpp#2761
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# [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fb88b8685827 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 34516556f823 (bug 1004890) and 0610c2dcc6f5 (bug 1004889) for Android Armv6 robocop crashes.
# [21:33] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: the best editor is designMode!
# [21:33] <@ehsan> next up would be vim
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# [21:40] <gozala> fitzgen: mind taking over the ejpbruel’s review ?
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# [21:40] <gozala> for bug 1004840
# [21:41] <fitzgen> gozala: is it time sensitive? if it doesn't need to get in tree now, I'd rather just let eddy get to it on monday
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# [21:49] <gozala> fitzgen: his patch just broke part of root actor than all my work depended on
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# [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ece9c3282b7 - Josh Aas - Bug 960774: Make ActorDestroy pure virtual on the parent side, require implementation. r=bent
# [21:49] <gozala> but I don have a workaround for now
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# [21:56] <mt> ehsan: ping
# [21:56] <@ehsan> mt: hi
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# [21:56] <mt> ehsan: wrt to intent to ship mails, does this apply to stuff that is preffed off?
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# [21:57] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: drag and drop inside the vm, or between the vm and host?
# [21:57] <@ehsan> mt: those require an intent to implement
# [21:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> NeilAway: the latter
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# [21:57] <mt> ehsan: ack, I'll look after it
# [21:57] <@ehsan> ty
# [21:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> NeilAway: copy/paste between the two was also broken
# [21:58] <NeilAway> ehsan++
# [21:58] <@ehsan> ?
# [21:58] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah, I don't have problems with copy/paste in virtualbox, but I've never been able to get drag-n-drop to work, but then I think my vm might include a virtual floppy disk
# [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e66519a65224 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 1004527 - Don't eliminate MNewDerivedTypedObject from resume points and recover them on bailout. (r=nmatsakis)
# [21:58] <NeilAway> ehsan: designmode > vim > emacs
# [21:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08f0167547ce - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 1001378 - Don't optimize out argument slots from resume points. (r=nbp)
# [21:59] <@ehsan> NeilAway: :)
# [21:59] <@ehsan> NeilAway: actually it's more like designMode > vim >> emacs
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# [22:06] <sfink> you're right shifting a boolean by a large number
# [22:06] <sfink> large, because emacs is just that cool
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# [22:09] <kats> isn't the order of operations designMode > (vim >> emacs) ?
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# [22:10] <jcranmer> bz_away: ping
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# [22:16] <Pike> bsmedberg: I think I fulfilled the needinfo. the results are weird, though
# [22:16] <Pike> nm -a only shows lines like " u "
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# [22:18] <rbarnes> any thoughts on why i can't push to try? abort: repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try: timed out waiting for lock held by hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:14463
# [22:18] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [22:18] <Ms2ger> You should read newsgroups :)
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# [22:19] <rbarnes> and assuming i don't, the answer is....?
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# [22:20] <jcranmer> all your base are belong to us?
# [22:20] <kats> rbarnes: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/4ea_L-daXkU
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# [22:20] <Ms2ger> That you should start :)
# [22:21] <rbarnes> thanks
# [22:21] <rbarnes> guessing the "try has been responsive since then" part is not so accurate :/
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# [22:22] <kats> there's more discussion on the bug
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# [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3a88dc52da7 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 1003027 - Use temp surface for bad strides. - r=mattwoodrow
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# [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8497c9757f1 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 1005030: IonMonkey: Don't abort the analysis passes during funapply, r=bhackett
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# [22:27] <BenWa> ehsan: I can’t use AppendPrintf from moz external code (nsCRTGlue.cpp)
# [22:27] <@ehsan> sigh
# [22:27] <@ehsan> ok
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# [22:27] <BenWa> Too bad, code was much nicer :(
# [22:27] <@ehsan> yeah
# [22:28] <hwine> Bas: looking into try issue -- thanks for report
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# [22:29] <NeilAway> ehsan: hey, emacs isn't that bad, I once wrote a newsreader for it (I didn't like the provided one)
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# [22:31] <Bas> hwine: NP :)
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# [22:35] <hwine> Bas: so far, looks like legit push from mfinkle
# [22:35] <hwine> mfinkle: please let me know if you get an error on your current push to try
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# [22:39] <hwine> Bas: everything is fine -- just a big push from mfinkle that has completed
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# [22:41] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: lots of alerts in #buildduty about things being broken
# [22:41] <KWierso> unsure if it needs to escalate to someone
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# [22:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: ping in #releng?
# [22:42] <KWierso> well, guess it's just two alerts being repeated over time
# [22:42] <@smaug> is hg.m.o down
# [22:42] <Ms2ger> Just try
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# [22:43] <@smaug> I guess it is just boycotting me.
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# [22:44] <dholbert> Ms2ger, try seems to be working again now, based on pushlog
# [22:44] <dholbert> but yeah, smaug: hg.m.o WFM
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# [22:45] <hwine> fwiw, if hg.m.o goes down lots of very obvious alerts start screaming in several group's face's
# [22:45] * @smaug might blame the over-the-forest-under-the-lake cable.
# [22:46] <hwine> ah, the forest elves can get upset depending where you run the cable
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# [22:47] <Bas> hwine: Ah, that took quite a while then :)
# [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b607ce15719a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
# [22:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0a8d94d7481e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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# [22:49] <hwine> Bas: yeah - hard to tell "working for real, but slowly" vs. "not working at all" - yesterday, no one's push completed successfully for 4 hours.
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# [22:51] <mhoye> till: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Coding/Mentoring <-- reload that
# [22:51] <mhoye> Tell me if it helps
# [22:51] <mhoye> Or, y'know, all the good it does you.
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# [22:51] <mhoye> :P
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# [23:00] <till> mhoye: that new text is helpful, yes
# [23:01] <till> mhoye: one thing I have been looking for, but didn't find, is a cheat sheet for whiteboard tags. Ideally bi-directional: [this tag] means "description" and if you want to indicate "description", use [this tag]
# [23:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f1090026382e - Richard Newman - Bug 1005074 - Part 1: rename Send Tab activity. r=mfinkle
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# [23:17] <bent> hrm, our atomic compare and swap doesn't return the old value?
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# [23:19] <froydnj> bent: not IIRC. the std c++ one has some complicated interface that does, though
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# [23:20] <bent> ours seems to return true/false only
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# [23:20] <froydnj> yeah, just whether it succeeded or not
# [23:21] <jld> So... if it does the store, then that means that the old value was the thing you expected the old value to be.
# [23:21] <bent> right
# [23:21] <bent> the other case is what i'm interested in
# [23:21] <jld> And if it's not, then the ones that are compare-and-swap instead of compare-and-set won't have done the swap? I think?
# [23:22] <jcranmer> bent: it's a bit complicated
# [23:22] <jcranmer> atomicCAS takes a T&
# [23:22] <jcranmer> so the old value is stored in that reference
# [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/de2fb1911118 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [23:26] <jld> I think hardware won't actually cooperate if you want to know the specific not-equal-to-expected value when CAS fails.
# [23:27] <jcranmer> it will
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# [23:29] <jld> Yes, I'm wrong.
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# [23:30] <jld> I'll blame the fact that I've been beating my head against the Android build system all morning.
# [23:30] <bent> i guess i don't understand why we don't use __sync_val_compare_and_swap instead of __sync_bool_compare_and_swap
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# [23:31] <bent> msvc _InterlockedCompareExchange does the thing i want already
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# [23:33] <jcranmer> bent: what do you want?
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# [23:33] <jcranmer> compare and swap both returns whether or not the cas succeeded and the value that was in memory
# [23:33] <bent> the old value always
# [23:34] <bent> no,
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# [23:34] <bent> if our compareExchange doesn't do the swap it just returns false
# [23:34] <jcranmer> it also sets ptr to the value in memory
# [23:35] <bent> hrm
# [23:35] <bent> that's not what this says...
# [23:35] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/Atomics.h?force=1#541
# [23:36] <jcranmer> that comment is wrong
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# [23:36] <bent> and the docs for __sync_bool_compare_and_swap don't
# [23:36] <bent> no, i think you're incorrect
# [23:37] <jcranmer> http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/Atomic-Builtins.html
# [23:37] <bent> "The “bool” version returns true if the comparison is successful and newval was written. The “val” version returns the contents of *ptr before the operation. "
# [23:37] <bent> is all i see
# [23:37] <jcranmer> it's modeled off of the C++11 std::atomic specification
# [23:37] <jcranmer> if the T &oldval isn't being modified, it's a bug in Atomics.h
# [23:38] <bent> where in that link you just posted does it say that something gets modified?
# [23:39] <bent> the msvc version doesn't do that either
# [23:39] <bent> we just check its return against the compare val
# [23:39] <bent> to return true or false
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# [23:42] <jcranmer> looks like jlebar missed my comment when he wrote that patch
# [23:44] <jcranmer> it *should* do both
# [23:44] <jcranmer> that it doesn't is an error in the implementation
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# [23:44] <bent> i still haven't found anything that says that is expected...
# [23:45] <bent> http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/atomic/atomic/compare_exchange
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# [23:45] <bent> is what you're talking about right?
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# [23:45] <bent> oh, "Atomically compares the value stored in *this with the value of expected, and if those are equal, replaces the former with desired (performs read-modify-write operation). Otherwise, loads the actual value stored in *this into expected (performs load operation). "
# [23:45] <jcranmer> yes
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# [23:46] <bent> yeah, our code does not do that
# [23:46] <jcranmer> file a bug
# [23:46] <bent> what a screwy api
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# [23:46] <bent> cas could be so much simpler
# [23:46] <bent> well, usually *is* so much simpler
# [23:47] <Waldo> anyone around here know how web-exposed nsSpeechTask::SendAudio is, and how I'd invoke it from content if I wanted to do so?
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# [23:47] <Ms2ger> ehsan, ^
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# [23:48] <@ehsan> Waldo: ask smaug
# [23:48] <@ehsan> it's currently not exposed
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# [23:53] <@smaug> Waldo: you'd need to enable some pref
# [23:53] <@smaug> and you get only some test backend by default, I think
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# [23:54] <@smaug> Waldo: in b2g we have some support for that
# [23:54] <@smaug> (tts part)
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# [23:55] <Waldo> smaug: is there anything at all that prevents someone from passing in a non-object value for aData, with hilarity ensuing?
# [23:56] <Waldo> there's clearly nothing inside the method, but not sure about anything out of it
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