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5. # [00:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8370ec67828e - David Major - Bug 1002748: Blocklist libinject.dll. r=bsmedberg
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15. # [00:06] <jryans> KWierso|sheriffduty: maybe i am missing something... but shouldn't your backout (https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/cf2158ae1de6) have made it to m-c already?
16. # [00:06] <fabrice> glandium: ping
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18. # [00:07] <@dolske> mrbkap: yeah. alas, that test dates to before the days of "setTimeout is evil", but surprisingly mostly kept working with various hacks
19. # [00:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jryans: it did in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cf2158ae1de6
20. # [00:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> guess it never got commented in the bug, though
21. # [00:08] <@dolske> mrbkap: I'm actually a bit surprised it never got converted to listening for oninput/onautocomplete to know when a field got filled in
22. # [00:08] <@dolske> mrbkap: but for the popupshowing part, that should presumably work fine with the asynchness? I assume we don't toss up the popup until we actually have results to stuff into it?
23. # [00:09] <glandium> fabrice: pong
24. # [00:09] <fabrice> glandium: do you know where we configure the jemalloc arena sizes
25. # [00:10] <jryans> KWierso|sheriffduty: hmm, i swear i just clicked through the m-c log on that file and the backout was not there... but now it is :/ anyway, thanks!
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28. # [00:10] <glandium> fabrice: in jemalloc.c
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32. # [00:12] <glandium> fabrice: for jemalloc3, it's different, though
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37. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88a8ca8a7f0c - Kearwood (Kip) Gilbert - Bug 926728 - Explicitly set the sticky enabled pref on the new crashtest.
38. # [00:12] <fabrice> glandium: did you switch to jemalloc3 ?
39. # [00:13] <glandium> fabrice: not yet
40. # [00:13] <fabrice> ok
41. # [00:13] <glandium> fabrice: but if you change something in mozjemalloc, you need to change it for jemalloc3 too
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44. # [00:14] <fabrice> glandium: memory/mozjemalloc/jemalloc.c or memory/jemalloc/src/src/jemalloc.c ?
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46. # [00:14] <glandium> fabrice: mozjemalloc
47. # [00:14] <glandium> fabrice: what is it you want to tweak?
48. # [00:14] <fabrice> glandium: I want to see if we can improve the situation from bug 1006769
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52. # [00:16] <glandium> fabrice: explicit/heap-overhead/waste?
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54. # [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0523fcc5af9 - William Chen - Bug 1005580 - Fix "after after frameset" insertion mode in HTML parser for handling characters. r=hsivonen
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56. # [00:17] <fabrice> glandium: yes
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58. # [00:17] <fabrice> glandium: it's pretty significant on a tarako
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68. # [00:20] <glandium> fabrice: i don't think twiddling arenas sizes is going to make much difference
69. # [00:21] <fabrice> glandium: yeah, I kind of expected that
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73. # [00:23] <fabrice> glandium: so there's no hope?
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75. # [00:24] <glandium> fabrice: you'd have to actually analyze what's going on there
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77. # [00:25] <glandium> fabrice: and check with njn what kind of things it can be. I /think/ that also includes overhead like when you want 3 bytes and get 8 bytes from jemalloc
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79. # [00:27] <_AxS_> glandium: ping! was wondering if I could bug you about a couple of build system issues in js/src
80. # [00:27] <jez> http://www.oxymoronical.com/blog/2011/01/Playing-with-windows-in-restartless-bootstrapped-extensions
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83. # [00:28] <jez> how out-of-date is this tutorial? i tried to use it as a template for my bootstrap.js, but my "setupBrowserUI" function can't access window.document; it says document doesn't exist
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88. # [00:31] <Gijs> does webidl have a destructor concept?
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93. # [00:33] <@smaug> Gijs: no
94. # [00:33] <@smaug> Gijs: what would it mean?
95. # [00:34] <Gijs> smaug: so I have an interface on a window, and it's JS implemented, and it has a global map, and I'm worried that there might be leftover references in that map when the window goes away, and those leftover references might keep the window alive, and that sounds bad.
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98. # [00:36] <@smaug> well, that depends
99. # [00:37] <@smaug> if it is just a simple interface you implement in JS, gc and cc should do their job and collect garbage
100. # [00:37] <@smaug> but if you register some stuff to some service as callbacks and never remove those callbacks, then you certainly leak
101. # [00:38] <Gijs> smaug: right. So how do I know when I ought to be removing the callbacks? :)
102. # [00:38] <Gijs> do I need to check for window unload events?
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105. # [00:40] <@smaug> Gijs: dom-window-destroyed notification ?
106. # [00:41] <Gijs> smaug: hrm. How is that different from unload events?
107. # [00:41] <@smaug> you don't want to add unload event listeners
108. # [00:41] <@smaug> to the window object at least
109. # [00:41] <@smaug> that disables bfcache
110. # [00:42] <Gijs> oh
111. # [00:42] <Gijs> good to know!
112. # [00:42] <Gijs> also, :(, because this complicates the code a lot, as there's currently no way to look up what callbacks are registered on a per-window basis
113. # [00:42] <Gijs> sigh :)
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116. # [00:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccbcc5e0e689 - Bobby Holley - Bug 997987 - Remove nsIScriptSecurityManager::GetSubjectPrincipal. r=Ms2ger
117. # [00:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d46b25e314d9 - Bobby Holley - Bug 997987 - Cache the system principal on nsContentUtils and remove nsIScriptSecurityManager::SubjectPrincipalIsSystem. r=Ms2ger,sr=bz
118. # [00:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1862e3f7ca6 - Bobby Holley - Bug 997987 - Remove usage of nsIScriptSecurityManager::GetSubjectPrincipal. r=Ms2ger
119. # [00:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd17d782f06a - Bobby Holley - Bug 997987 - Remove nsIScriptSecurityManager::GetCxSubjectPrincipal. r=Ms2ger
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140. # [00:53] <_AxS_> glandium: so other than the bug I CCd you on, a make install in js/src is putting the headers into $includedir/-/$library_name (and I cannot find where this extra - is coming from -- both vars seem to hold the right value, no extra '-')
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142. # [00:54] <_AxS_> also js-config and the .pc are correct, no '-'
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167. # [01:11] <jez> How do you programatically add a toolbar button to the Australis interface? I'm adding my toolbarbutton in my extension's bootstrap.js using window.document.getElementById("nav-bar").appendChild(...), and it adds it, but not as a customizable/draggable button.
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172. # [01:14] <reuben> jez: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/CustomizableUI.jsm
173. # [01:14] <reuben> https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2014/03/06/australis-for-add-on-developers-2/
174. # [01:14] <dmajor> in ubuntu, how can I move a window if its title bar went off screen?
175. # [01:15] <jez> reuben: is that module the only way to do it? because it really sucks for trying to make something compatible with seamonkey and firefox.
176. # [01:15] <jez> (the former not having customizableUI)
177. # [01:15] <reuben> jez: I don't know. try #extdev or #fx-team
178. # [01:15] <dmajor> ah, the 'Move' entry went off screen too; had to scroll to find it :)
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203. # [01:29] <seth> sicking: regarding bug 1004908, i wonder if you could clarify something
204. # [01:29] <sicking> seth: i can try
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207. # [01:30] <seth> sicking: when you mention "breaking the 1.3T release", you're referring to the case where we introduce a bug inadvertently while making that change, right? the change itself (which will break existing code that uses -moz-samplesize) isn't a problem, though, right?
208. # [01:30] <sicking> seth: right
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212. # [01:30] <sicking> seth: i trust djf to make sure that the change itself doesn't break anything
213. # [01:31] <seth> sicking: OK, that sounds good. i feel like the odds of bustage are low. should i cook up a patch, or are there other parties we should hear from before moving forward?
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216. # [01:31] <sicking> seth: lets get a patch. And also attach an assessment of risk. Keep in mind that we might also be going through other code paths in libjpeg which might trigger bugs there
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219. # [01:32] <sicking> seth: once we have a path then djf can assess value (how much memory is saved) as well as risk involved in changes on the gaia side
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223. # [01:34] <seth> sicking: alright. that seems reasonable
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252. # [02:00] <sicking> seth: As I understood it, the reason that we currently don't rely on things like "style="width:200; height:320"" is that there can be multiple instances of the same image which are rendered in different sizes
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254. # [02:00] <sicking> seth: and also to deal with the image resizing dynamically (as part of an animation or whatnot)
255. # [02:01] <sicking> seth: of course, both of these are super rare
256. # [02:01] <sicking> seth: so i'd be super happy if the image code was able to JustDoTheRightThing
257. # [02:02] <sicking> seth: do you really think we'll be able to make that happen?
258. # [02:03] <sicking> you'll likely have to do a reflow after having decoded the image size before you can figure out what the final render size is
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285. # [02:16] <seth> sicking: yes, i do think we'll be able to JustDoTheRightThing
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288. # [02:16] <sicking> seth: Awesome! When?
289. # [02:16] <seth> sicking: we don't need to actually decode the image to know its size. we just need to read the header. we already separate those two things on every decode
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291. # [02:17] <seth> sicking: well, it sounds like one monolithic feature but it isn't. it's a ton of refactorings and changes. for example, we need to be able to support multiple decoded versions of the same image, and support discarding them independently, because of the fact that the same image can appear in multiple locations, as you mentioned
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293. # [02:17] <sicking> seth: sure. What i'm saying is that we'll need to read size, then reflow, then start decoding
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295. # [02:17] <sicking> seth: oh, i'm sure it's not well contained at all
296. # [02:18] <seth> sicking: kan-ru and i are working on different aspects of this problem, but i would expect a solution that fully works in every case to be ~6 months out
297. # [02:18] <sicking> seth: hence my surprise that you can do this :)
298. # [02:18] <sicking> seth: 6 months is a long time. Definitely still worth doing though
299. # [02:18] <sicking> seth: but we'll need something in the meantime
300. # [02:18] <seth> sicking: yeah, absolutely. i'm not recommending that we rip out the media fragment right away
301. # [02:18] <sicking> seth: samplesize might cut it though
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303. # [02:19] <seth> sicking: it's worth noting, though, that kan-ru has a patch that implements a basic version of this functionality (but doesn't handle a lot of corner cases)
304. # [02:19] <seth> sicking: he and I are curious if it's already enough for the B2G gallery, etc.
305. # [02:20] <jet> kinetik: birtles is looking at bug 77992 and needs to ask re: your use case. We may need W3C spec changes here.
306. # [02:20] <sicking> cool
307. # [02:20] <seth> sicking: this is bug 945161
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310. # [02:21] <kinetik> jet: cool, how can i help?
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312. # [02:22] <birtles> kinetik: just wondering why does media source extensions need epoch time?
313. # [02:22] <birtles> would a domtimestamp member be enough (measured from navigationStart)?
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315. # [02:23] <kinetik> birtles: youtube uses the timeStamp on progress events to estimate download bandwidth
316. # [02:23] <kinetik> birtles: ours is in the wrong base (not milliseconds, per the spec)
317. # [02:23] <birtles> kinetik: ok, that's good to know. yep, that's right
318. # [02:23] <kinetik> s/base/units/
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444. # [03:49] <mccr8> oops, I broke moth. let me fix that...
445. # [03:49] <mccr8> by removing a test. ;)
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581. # [05:21] <@njn> is there a better way to iterate over every char in a string, in JS, than using a loop and charAt() or charCodeAt()?
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584. # [05:23] <kgrandon> njn: i have no idea what's most performant, but maybe String.split('') then loop?
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588. # [05:25] <@njn> kgrandon: that creates lots of extra strings
589. # [05:25] <@njn> they're only 1 char each, but they still occur
590. # [05:25] <@njn> using charCodeAt() avoids that
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592. # [05:26] <@bz> njn: loop + charCodeAt is likely to be very jit-friendly
593. # [05:26] <@bz> njn: though I think charAt is pretty jit-friendly too in practice.....
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596. # [05:26] <@njn> bz: it's annoying that the checks done at the start of charCodeAt -- is this a string? is the arg an integer? -- have to be redone on every char
597. # [05:27] <@bz> njn: um
598. # [05:27] <@njn> bz: these are checks within the C++ code implementing charCodeAt()
599. # [05:27] <@bz> njn: that code isn't called in the fast path
600. # [05:28] <@bz> njn: I thought
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604. # [05:28] <@njn> bz: they always occur
605. # [05:28] <@njn> bz: I'm looking at js_str_charCodeAt in jsstr.cpp
606. # [05:28] <@bz> njn: Ah
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608. # [05:28] <@bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/jit/CodeGenerator.cpp#5250
609. # [05:29] <@bz> Which still does a vmcall, but to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/jit/VMFunctions.cpp#461
610. # [05:29] <@njn> bz: oh, cool
611. # [05:29] <@bz> and also...
612. # [05:29] <@bz> that's the OOL path
613. # [05:29] <@bz> there's an inline path there too
614. # [05:29] <@bz> 5264 Address charsAddr(str, JSString::offsetOfChars());
615. # [05:29] <@bz> 5265 masm.loadPtr(charsAddr, output);
616. # [05:29] <@bz> 5266 masm.load16ZeroExtend(BaseIndex(output, index, TimesTwo, 0), output);
617. # [05:29] * @bz is not sure when we take the OOL path
618. # [05:29] <@njn> bz: even better!
619. # [05:30] <@bz> Basically, this is benchmarketed to hell and back. ;)
620. # [05:30] <@njn> bz: if my code doesn't avoid the OOL path, nothing will
621. # [05:30] <@njn> it's very straightforward
622. # [05:30] <@njn> bz: thanks!
623. # [05:30] <@bz> No problem
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625. # [05:31] <@bz> masm.branchTest32(Assembler::Zero, lengthAndFlagsAddr, Imm32(JSString::FLAGS_MASK), ool->entry())
626. # [05:31] <@bz> anyway
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639. # [05:42] <shu> bz: can confirm, the char stuff + loop is super fast
640. # [05:43] <shu> whereas regexps are a damn shame
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644. # [05:49] <jcranmer> so what's the fastest way in JS to say that "none of this set of characters is in a string"?
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654. # [05:54] <sfink> seems like it would depend quite a bit on the lengths of those two inputs
655. # [05:54] <jcranmer> if (/[()<>[]:;@\\,"]/.test(localpart))
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657. # [05:55] <sfink> your momma ain't so hot either
658. # [05:55] <shu> lol
659. # [05:55] <jcranmer> well, I do know that replacing my regex-based approach to a generic tokenizer with a character scan did appear to improve performance
660. # [05:56] <jcranmer> as well as make it actually legible
661. # [05:56] <shu> jcranmer: i'd probably just write it as if JS were C
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668. # [06:04] <@bz> In theory the regexp jit should be able to do cool things
669. # [06:04] <@bz> in theory
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671. # [06:08] <shu> bz: in practice, nobody understands yarr and we can't maintain it
672. # [06:08] <shu> bz: bhackett was on a one man mission to port irregexp, not sure what the status is
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674. # [06:09] <sfink> sounds like it's working. It would be interesting to see what the difference is in this case.
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677. # [06:11] <shu> sfink: he got it working already?
678. # [06:11] <shu> sfink: i mean, i should know better than to be impressed with bhackett's hacking chops but still
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680. # [06:11] <sfink> he's had it working for a little while now
681. # [06:12] <sfink> at least, the jit part
682. # [06:12] <sfink> he just got the interpreter mode working too
683. # [06:12] <shu> very nice
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685. # [06:12] <sfink> it's going through some fuzz bugs now
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688. # [06:13] <sfink> njn: ping
689. # [06:14] <@njn> sfink: pong
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691. # [06:15] <@njn> shu: yeah, irregexp is looking good; bug 976446
692. # [06:15] <sfink> njn: do you now how PLDHashTables work? I'm trying to come up with a justification for claiming that initEntry cannot GC when registering a memory reporter helper thing.
693. # [06:15] <sfink> See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994964#c113
694. # [06:15] <@njn> sfink: I kind of do
695. # [06:15] <glandium> they keyword being "kind of"
696. # [06:16] <@njn> sfink: I'll need more context to help you though
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699. # [06:17] <sfink> look at the stack at the end of that comment
700. # [06:18] <sfink> I want to be able to say that PLDHashTableOps.initEntry cannot GC in this case
701. # [06:18] <shu> a 1.19MB patch in true bhackett fashion
702. # [06:18] <sfink> which I think is the same as saying that the constructor for nsPtrHashKey<nsIMemoryReporter> cannot GC
703. # [06:18] <sfink> which is what I'm tracing down now...
704. # [06:19] <sfink> it would be nice if nsTHashtable or whatever it's called didn't lose type information
705. # [06:19] <@njn> shu: to be fair, it's hard to see how you'd break that one up into smaller pieces
706. # [06:20] <shu> njn: yeah i juts looked at it and adding/removing entire files certainly does that to a patch's size
707. # [06:20] <sfink> hm, nsPtrHashKey constructors are just pointer juggling, so they seem safe for any type
708. # [06:21] <@njn> sfink: pldhash.h has this comment:
709. # [06:21] <sfink> though I suppose a specialization could override... argh
710. # [06:21] <@njn> * initEntry Call placement new using default key-based ctor.
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712. # [06:21] <@njn> * Return true on success, false on error.
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714. # [06:21] <sfink> yeah, that placement new runs a constructor, which could GC for some types
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716. # [06:22] <@njn> sfink: I see. AFAICT, no code in the codebase actually uses initEntry
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721. # [06:23] <sfink> njn: huh? I assume it's used whenever you insert into a hashtable
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723. # [06:23] <@njn> sfink: it's optional; if it's not set, it's not used
724. # [06:23] <@njn> sfink: and I can't see anyone that sets it
725. # [06:24] <sfink> hm. There's an s_InitEntry defined; I assumed it was going to get used.
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728. # [06:24] <@njn> sfink: maybe it's happening in ways I can't detect
729. # [06:25] <sfink> yeah, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsTHashtable.h#415 sets it
730. # [06:25] <sfink> or initializes it, rather
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734. # [06:27] <sfink> ok, I see no specialization for nsIMemoryReporter (it would be pretty bizarre if there were one)
735. # [06:27] <sfink> so I think I can fix this with a strategically placed AutoAssertNoGC
736. # [06:27] <@njn> sfink: so I'm pretty sure that table won't trigger GC
737. # [06:27] <@njn> sfink: it's pretty vanilla
738. # [06:28] <sfink> I'm pretty sure too, but I have to tell that to the analysis somehow, and for that I really need to know why. But I think I'm good now; thanks.
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740. # [06:29] <sfink> njn: you never have memory reporters implemented in JS, right?
741. # [06:29] <@njn> sfink: incorrect; khuey recently added one
742. # [06:30] <@njn> and the DownThemAll! add-on implements some
743. # [06:30] <sfink> what calls the JS?
744. # [06:30] <sfink> I mean, which functions in nsMemoryReporterManager.cpp could call JS?
745. # [06:30] <sfink> perhaps none of them?
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747. # [06:33] <@njn> sfink: um, let me think
748. # [06:34] <@njn> sfink: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/base/nsMemoryReporterManager.cpp#1113
749. # [06:35] <@njn> each reporter implements a CollectReports() metdho
750. # [06:35] <sfink> ah! ok, good
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752. # [06:35] <sfink> although it does make me wonder if it's really a good idea to allow a GC while collecting a memory report
753. # [06:35] <sfink> but I'm not sure it's a good idea to disallow it either :)
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835. # [08:02] <kinetik> birtles: the email you sent to whatwg says gecko's event timeStamp is in milliseconds, but it's actually in microseconds (that's what bug 238041 is about)
836. # [08:02] <birtles> kinetik: oh ok, I forgot about that
837. # [08:02] <birtles> kinetik: do you want to follow up with that correction or shall I
838. # [08:03] <birtles> (it's been 4 years since I looked at those bugs)
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840. # [08:04] <kinetik> birtles: i just wanted to make sure you knew :-)
841. # [08:04] <kinetik> that, rather than the epoch, is the main issue with youtube, iiuc
842. # [08:04] <birtles> kinetik: no, I forgot about that. that makes more sense of the youtube issue
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888. # [08:36] <dougc> Hi, seeing lots crashes on the 'Android 4.0 Opt' try server, is this a known issue that you live with?
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891. # [08:37] <Ms2ger> I would say no
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897. # [08:42] <dougc> Trying to check changes to the instruction cache flushing, and any crash is a red flag, so it's hard with such noise.
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938. # [09:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7a6a07449272 - Robert Utasi - Bug 1001204 - Remove hyperlink appearance for nsIAlertsService alerts when clickable. r=MattN
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947. # [09:15] <RattyAway> ReferenceError: _malloc is not defined.
948. # [09:15] <RattyAway> message: ReferenceError: _malloc is not defined
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950. # [09:15] <RattyAway> fileName: http://jsperf.com/test-asm-js-vs-native-js
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952. # [09:15] <RattyAway> :P :P :P
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978. # [09:32] <glandium> there's something weird with text search on planet.mozilla.org in firefox
979. # [09:32] <glandium> can someone go to planet.mozilla.org and search for "froyd"? what's your first match?
980. # [09:32] <Archaeopteryx> let me check
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985. # [09:34] <Unfocused> glandium: the "froyd" in the heading for "Nathan Froyd — my code search engine"
986. # [09:34] <Unfocused> why, what are you getting?
987. # [09:34] <glandium> Unfocused: interesting... that's not what i get
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990. # [09:35] <glandium> Unfocused: i end up on the froyd in froydnj-mozilla-srcdir
991. # [09:35] <glandium> note, i'm on an old aurora
992. # [09:36] <glandium> let me try on current beta, which would correspond to the same version, and on current nightly
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994. # [09:37] <Unfocused> oh, i'm on nightly - there;s been changes since then. but its the changes i'd expect to break, i wouldn't expect them to fix anything
995. # [09:38] <Archaeopteryx> on 28, i got the same as Unfocused; in nightly, the site won't finish loading
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1000. # [09:40] <glandium> so this is interesting... same version, fresh profile: doesn't do it
1001. # [09:40] <Unfocused> huh
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1003. # [09:41] <Archaeopteryx> glandium: have you "Match Case" enabled?
1004. # [09:41] <Unfocused> heh, was about to ask that
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1006. # [09:43] <glandium> Archaeopteryx: doh
1007. # [09:43] <Unfocused> ahaha
1008. # [09:43] <glandium> that used to be next to the box, so much more visible
1009. # [09:43] <glandium> to me, that says that was a bad move
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1014. # [09:47] <Unfocused> glandium: hm, interestingly, it's only on the far side on linux
1015. # [09:47] <glandium> Unfocused: it's not on the far side on windows and mac?
1016. # [09:47] <Unfocused> nope
1017. # [09:47] <glandium> O_o
1018. # [09:47] <Unfocused> might want to file a bug for that
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1021. # [09:49] <Unfocused> cc mikedeboer
1022. # [09:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/22347f9e52cd - Richard Marti - Bug 989890 - Port the help button to in-content prefs. r=jaws
1023. # [09:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5bfa3b6dae2a - Maksim Lebedev - Bug 1003093 - Fire pointerOUT event after firing pointerCANCEL event. r=smaug
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1026. # [09:52] <glandium> Unfocused: toolkit::find toolbar?
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1030. # [09:53] <glandium> mmm interesting, i thought it was related to australis, but it's not... 28 had it this way too
1031. # [09:53] <glandium> 24 doesn't
1032. # [09:53] <mikedeboer> glandium: correct (re. component)
1033. # [09:53] <mikedeboer> glandium: <3 to see a screenshot
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1048. # [10:00] <glandium> so in fact, this changed in 25
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1050. # [10:00] <smontagu> #firstworldproblems - the sound gets choppy when I listen to music while building mozilla
1051. # [10:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
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1055. # [10:01] <nigelb> smontagu: hahaha. firefox builds take over my laptop fully.
1056. # [10:01] <nigelb> I can't even use vim.
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1060. # [10:02] <smontagu> my laptop is actually OK with it, but I don't like the sound from its speakers :D
1061. # [10:02] <nigelb> hah
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1064. # [10:06] <glandium> mikedeboer: 1007018
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1066. # [10:07] <padenot> glandium: fwiw, it's just fine here on linux nightly
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1071. # [10:07] <padenot> like, it's the new look, but with the buttons on the left
1072. # [10:07] <glandium> padenot: O_o
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1074. # [10:08] <padenot> this is on Fx32
1075. # [10:08] <mikedeboer> glandium: yeah, on nightly the buttons should be next to the find field again
1076. # [10:08] <mikedeboer> not on aurora yet
1077. # [10:08] <glandium> aaaah
1078. # [10:08] <glandium> i was looking at 29/30
1079. # [10:09] <mikedeboer> nightly also contains the new find counter
1080. # [10:09] <glandium> so my bug is actually already fixed
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1082. # [10:10] <mikedeboer> glandium: myeah, it is :) I'm sorry to make you file a bug for it... I didn't understand earlier. (even though bugs are cheap ;) )
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1160. # [11:15] <Gijs> Can I hold a weak reference to a JS function? :)
1161. # [11:15] <Ms2ger> No
1162. # [11:15] <Gijs> :(
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1165. # [11:19] <till> Gijs: depends on what you want to do, exactly
1166. # [11:20] <till> Gijs: but mostly, "don't do it"
1167. # [11:20] <Gijs> till: I see.
1168. # [11:21] <till> Gijs: in chrome JS, there is a way to iterate over WeakMaps. That can be used to implement weakly held callbacks
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1170. # [11:21] <till> Gijs: but, again, don't do it ;)
1171. # [11:21] <Gijs> till: well, drat, I was about to go there. :(
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1174. # [11:22] <till> Gijs: depending on your use case, it might be your best bet, but in the vast majority of cases, other solutions work better
1175. # [11:23] <Gijs> till: hrm. So I currently have a Map() of ids (strings) to callback objects (which hold a set of URLs and a callback function)
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1177. # [11:24] <Gijs> till: the callback function will be from a content window
1178. # [11:24] <Gijs> till: the callbacks remove themselves when they are called and the set of URLs is empty
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1180. # [11:24] <Gijs> till: unfortunately... I have no guarantee the callback will be called, nevermind a guarantee that it will be called before the content window goes away
1181. # [11:25] <till> Gijs: can't you listen to an event telling you when the window goes away?
1182. # [11:25] <jez> what's the best practice for adding a toolbar button for a restartless addon in Seamonkey?
1183. # [11:25] <Gijs> till: yes, but then I need a way to associate callbacks to windows
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1185. # [11:25] <Gijs> till: and in particular, callback IDs to windows
1186. # [11:25] <till> Gijs: and then either iterate over your map, or have a second map in the other direction so you can just look it up?
1187. # [11:25] <Gijs> so, still more bookkeeping
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1189. # [11:25] <till> hmm, yeah
1190. # [11:26] <Gijs> till: I'm trying to simplify, not add more overhead ;)
1191. # [11:26] <till> Gijs: however, the upside is that the callback goes away at exactly the right time, instead of whenever the GC feels like it ;)
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1194. # [11:26] <Gijs> till: yes, but it also assumes the bookkeeping is perfect. I am paranoid, and not (yet) overly familiar with this area of chrome JS (add-on manager)
1195. # [11:27] <till> Gijs: good point, yes
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1197. # [11:27] <till> Gijs: abstracting all of this away seems to make sense. I.e., have a function to register a callback that sets up all this bookkeeping
1198. # [11:28] <Gijs> yes, sure
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1201. # [11:28] <till> Gijs: fwiw, people on the EcmaScript committee want to introduce WeakReferences, but everyone remotely involved in implementing GC or CC is very much opposed
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1203. # [11:28] <Gijs> I mean, my other alternative is to switch to a different type of message listener, and keeping the callback registry local to an object that should (tm) go away when the window goes away (because webidl and so on)
1204. # [11:29] <Gijs> (that said, that assumes the cycle collector does its job...)
1205. # [11:29] <Gijs> till: we already have weak refs in chrome JS, though, right? :)
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1207. # [11:29] <Ms2ger> No
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1209. # [11:29] <till> Gijs: "don't use them" ;)
1210. # [11:30] <Gijs> Ms2ger: so is this a lie: let x = {QueryInterface: XPCOMUtils.generateQI([Ci.nsISupportsWeakReference]) }; let weak = Cu.getWeakReference(x); ?
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1213. # [11:30] <till> Cu.getCake()
1214. # [11:30] <Gijs> heh
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1216. # [11:30] <Ms2ger> Cu.eatCake()
1217. # [11:31] <Gijs> Ms2ger: till: so can you rely on a WeakMap with dom windows as keys in JS? :)
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1220. # [11:32] <Ms2ger> Maybe
1221. # [11:32] * till looks for a bug about things like that he saw fly by
1222. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> I suspect yes, by now
1223. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> But ask peterv
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1226. # [11:35] <till> Gijs: ah, I was thinking of bug 804386, but that doesn't apply
1227. # [11:36] <till> Gijs: so you should be able to use them, yes
1228. # [11:36] <Gijs> till: still talking about weakmaps w/ windows, presumably, rather than Cu.getWR ? :)
1229. # [11:36] <till> Gijs: yes
1230. # [11:37] <till> Gijs: you should bring up your use case with GC/CC people, btw
1231. # [11:38] <Gijs> till: I think I'm still at the point where I'm more skeptical about my own ability to figure out the "right" solution than about the platform (and it possibly lacking features that are necessary)
1232. # [11:38] <till> Gijs: there's this thread, which nicely reflects where people stand on this issue: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.tech.js-engine.internals/9LcqR9m5Mo4
1233. # [11:39] <Gijs> webidl + e10s + addon manager = lots of new stuff that I don't know well -> trying not to jump to conclusions too much
1234. # [11:39] <till> Gijs: I think this is an assessment that'd be true for, roughly, everyone
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1236. # [11:39] <till> Gijs: as soon as "weak somethingsomething" enters the picture
1237. # [11:40] <Gijs> till: right. And that's a theoretical point that I touched upon earlier as well: if you have perfect bookkeeping, clearly you don't need weak listeners. You can just manually "null everything out" and presto, things get GC'd
1238. # [11:40] <Gijs> but in a sense, that's partly you doing the GC's job
1239. # [11:41] <Gijs> (often poorly)
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1242. # [11:41] <till> Gijs: that's exactly what people are disputing
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1245. # [11:41] <till> Gijs: resource management !== garbage management
1246. # [11:42] <Gijs> till: hrm. Can you expand on that? I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean.
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1250. # [11:43] <till> Gijs: I can't do that too well, because I'm not necessarily completely in that camp ;)
1251. # [11:44] <till> Gijs: I think there is value in having weak references, and that the way they're proposed for ES7 is a good compromise
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1254. # [11:45] <till> Gijs: I do, however, see the issue that the GC isn't meant to influence your application logic. Which it does if you depend on it to remove things like callbacks and aren't really careful about handling cases where that didn't happen yet, but would have if you had handled removal explicitly
1255. # [11:45] <Gijs> till: right. But I don't really care about the function being called while the window is closed, but not dead yet. :)
1256. # [11:46] <gaston> anyone in releng knows the catch for 29.0.1 build2 ? any eta for final 29.0.1?
1257. # [11:46] <padenot> Sylvestre: ^
1258. # [11:46] <till> Gijs: ooh, you think that now
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1260. # [11:47] <Sylvestre> gaston, a simple mistake during the build configuration, the source should be the same
1261. # [11:47] <Gijs> till: well, on the assumption that the GC state will never be inconsistent (ie no random nulls somewhere in my window so that the function borks if it runs)
1262. # [11:47] <Sylvestre> padenot, (thanks)
1263. # [11:47] <Gijs> is that too optimistic an assumption? :)
1264. # [11:47] <till> Gijs: until the function does something that unexpectedly throws an extension. Which "can't happen" because the situation is guaranteed to be sane - until you have non-collected zombie states, that is ;)
1265. # [11:47] <till> Gijs: well, that much is guaranteed
1266. # [11:48] <Gijs> till: by "throws an extension", do you mean it recreates a ref to the window or something?
1267. # [11:48] <Gijs> or did you just mean "exception" :)
1268. # [11:48] <till> the latter
1269. # [11:48] <Sylvestre> gaston, the final should be published by the end of the week
1270. # [11:49] <gaston> Sylvestre: ok thanks (was looking for sledru otherwise i'd have asked you directly :)
1271. # [11:49] <Gijs> till: but the thread is very helpful in that Andrew correctly points out that it all boils down to "who is referencing me" and "when should I go away"
1272. # [11:49] <till> Gijs: all I'm arguing is that it is dangerously easy to introduce unexpected nondeterminism into your application logic by letting the GC's nondeterminism leak
1273. # [11:49] <Gijs> right
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1275. # [11:49] <gaston> the 'broken' session restore in 29.0 but is quite annoying, hence the question about the .1.. :)
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1277. # [11:50] <Sylvestre> gaston, indeed, that is one of the driver for this .1 :)
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1279. # [11:51] <till> Gijs: from what I understood of your specific situation, it also sounds like it should be possible to abstract away the bookkeeping in a reusable manner
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1288. # [11:55] <Gijs> till: probably. :)
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1296. # [11:59] <peterv> Gijs: weakmap with windows won't work I think, not until they're on WebIDL
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1298. # [11:59] <Gijs> till: but at the moment I still feel like I'm misarchitecturing here somehow, ie, should be able to keep my callbacks in a way that doesn't require me to be clever about this.
1299. # [12:00] <Gijs> peterv: er, really? :|
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1309. # [12:02] <Gijs> peterv: I'm pretty sure we ship code that uses them and it doesn't seem to be leaking like crazy (otherwise, tests should have yelled by now): http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/customizableui/src/CustomizableUI.jsm#130
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1311. # [12:02] <Gijs> (equally, maybe our tests are bad at detecting these leaks)
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1314. # [12:02] <Gijs> hrm, actually, we seem to be using a weak map there *and* manually removing windows from it.
1315. # [12:03] <Gijs> till: completely orthogonal, you don't know why Map/WeakMap uses "delete" rather than "remove", do you? Gets me every time. :(
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1318. # [12:05] <peterv> Gijs: you want to check with mccr8, but right now we only have support for cleaning up leaks using the CC for weakmaps that have WebIDL objects, not for weakmaps that have XPConnect-wrapped objects
1319. # [12:05] <Gijs> peterv: hrm, interesting.
1320. # [12:06] <Gijs> so the e10s message managers all have addWeakMessageListener methods
1321. # [12:06] <Gijs> are those essentially useless from JS, in terms of avoiding leaks?
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1324. # [12:07] <till> Gijs: I do not. If you must, you can always do WeakMap.prototype.remove = WeakMap.prototype.delete ;)
1325. # [12:07] <till> (and no, you shouldn't)
1326. # [12:07] <peterv> Gijs: that's unrelated to weakmaps?
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1330. # [12:10] <peterv> Gijs: so, hmm, we might not leak
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1332. # [12:11] <peterv> Gijs: we only keep WebIDL bindings alive so objects using XPConnect wrappers could disappear from the map too soon
1333. # [12:11] <peterv> Gijs: but Windows shouldn't run into that, the native and the JS object are pretty tightly bound in terms of lifetime
1334. # [12:12] <Gijs> peterv: regarding the weak message listener methods - it's related to what I'm trying to do here, and Ms2ger and till telling me "don't do that" when asking about nsISupportsWeakReference on JS objects
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1336. # [12:12] <Gijs> peterv: OK, so it sounds like weakmaps with windows really would be OK :)
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1341. # [12:14] <Gijs> peterv: the current patch on bug 926712 uses the latter... I could use non-weak refs and listen for window destroyed notifications in order to destroy the listeners, but it'd be work. :)
1342. # [12:14] <Gijs> (work that sounds like I will need to do it, though)
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1348. # [12:21] <peterv> I'm not sure why you wouldn't use nsISupportsWeakReference on XPCOM objects
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1367. # [12:29] <Gijs> peterv: even in JS? :)
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1370. # [12:30] <peterv> sure
1371. # [12:31] <peterv> what would be the problem?
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1373. # [12:31] <@smaug> addWeakMessageListener aren't useless
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1383. # [12:35] <nigelb> g35
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1389. # [12:37] <nigelb> gah, sorry
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1404. # [12:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mounir: ping
1405. # [12:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83d8155eba84 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 1006065 - Remove bogus assert in ArraySpliceDense and add a testcase. r=h4writer
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1415. # [13:03] <gcp> glandium: not to mention, you can just import Firefox into MSVC now
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1430. # [13:22] <@mounir> Tomcat|sheriffduty: oups :(
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1433. # [13:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/52c25214f476 - Edgar Chen - Bug 1001352 - Set data subscrption for flame dsds mode. r=hsinyi
1434. # [13:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mounir: np :) would be cool if you could land on m-i also next time :)
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1443. # [13:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0946e3f84a75 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1463. # [13:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e37c6d3bc781 - Mark Finkle - Bug 1006973 - Fix bustage in casting pageaction r=wesj
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1468. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65ba102d73b2 - Gene Lian - Bug 1006562 - WorkerDataStoreCursor.store should be equal to the WorkerDataStore which owns the cursor (part 1, minor code clean-up). r=baku
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1470. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/729515d1cfff - Gene Lian - Bug 1006562 - WorkerDataStoreCursor.store should be equal to the WorkerDataStore which owns the cursor (part 2, WorkerDataStoreCursor.store == WorkerDataStore). r=baku
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1474. # [14:05] <Gijs> how do I throw an exception from a JS webidl implementation? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Throwing_exceptions_from_WebIDL_methods.2C_getters.2C_and_setters doesn't specify how this works in JS, and just throw "String" doesn't reflect the message in the exception that arrives on the other end
1475. # [14:06] <peterv> Gijs: you mean https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Throwing_exceptions_from_JS-implemented_APIs ?
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1477. # [14:07] <Gijs> peterv: thanks! I missed that section somehow :s
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1489. # [14:21] <Gijs> peterv: so I'm using the DOMError constructor and verified that the error it constructs is really a DOMError before it's handed to webidl, but the other side just gets an NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED with no message, line 1, column 0, no source file...
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1493. # [14:24] <Unfocused> oh look, another poor bastard doing webidl in js
1494. # [14:25] <Gijs> Unfocused: :(
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1496. # [14:25] <peterv> Gijs: can we see the code?
1497. # [14:26] <Gijs> Unfocused: fixing up all the test failures that this installtrigger patch is running into (several tests apparently stringify the prototype and expect "Object", not "InstallTriggerImpl" ?!) is fun...
1498. # [14:26] <Gijs> peterv: sure, one second
1499. # [14:26] <Unfocused> er, wait, as in my patch?
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1502. # [14:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8b28479188b6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1503. # [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e75da89a9b02 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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1505. # [14:28] <Gijs> Unfocused: yes
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1507. # [14:29] <Gijs> peterv: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5091081 is the .js file
1508. # [14:29] <Gijs> peterv: the install() method does some throwing
1509. # [14:29] <NeilAway> Unfocused++
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1512. # [14:30] <Gijs> peterv: this test http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/test/mochitest/test_bug887098.html?force=1 checks the third throw in that function
1513. # [14:30] <Gijs> peterv: my initial thought was making the test check e.message instead, but that's === ""
1514. # [14:31] <Gijs> so now I'm just confused.
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1518. # [14:33] <peterv> Gijs: hmm, but earlier you said no message?
1519. # [14:34] <Gijs> peterv: well, empty string is about the same as no message, right? At least, it's no longer a DOMError that shows up, nor does it reflect the error message I passed in...
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1523. # [14:35] <past> how do I format a char16_t * string in order to display it using printf()? Is there a helper function somewhere?
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1529. # [14:39] <peterv> Gijs: yeah, it shouldn't be a DOM error, but message shouldn't be ""
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1533. # [14:41] <peterv> Gijs: if you get me a full patch I could look into it
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1536. # [14:42] <peterv> hmm, I wonder if the exception comes from the about: page :-/
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1541. # [14:45] <Gijs> peterv: that's https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5091080
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1543. # [14:45] * Gijs tried to excerpt just the relevant bit :)
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1550. # [14:49] <RyanVM> nical: so I did a few retriggers on your Try push :)
1551. # [14:50] <RyanVM> nical: any problems with me pushing v7 if they look good?
1552. # [14:50] <@mounir> Tomcat|sheriffduty: landing on m-i requires a lot of troubles for a one-shot patch
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1554. # [14:50] <RyanVM> mounir: really now
1555. # [14:50] <RyanVM> go on :)
1556. # [14:50] <@mounir> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I no longer have dozens of mozilla repos cloned ;)
1557. # [14:50] <RyanVM> so edit hgrc
1558. # [14:50] <RyanVM> pull inbound
1559. # [14:50] <RyanVM> update
1560. # [14:50] <RyanVM> push
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1562. # [14:50] <RyanVM> srsly
1563. # [14:51] <RyanVM> and busting m-c is *so* much better
1564. # [14:51] <@mounir> RyanVM: the patch went on try
1565. # [14:51] <@mounir> RyanVM: I'm not sure what happened
1566. # [14:51] <RyanVM> you didn't test debug?
1567. # [14:51] <RyanVM> looks pretty clear to me
1568. # [14:52] <@mounir> I forgot how nice the sheriffs were :)
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1571. # [14:53] <RyanVM> mounir: expectations are higher for those who've been around :)
1572. # [14:55] <@mounir> RyanVM: I am none the less a volunteer ;)
1573. # [14:55] <RyanVM> mounir: break inbound and we'd be having a different discussion
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1577. # [14:56] <@mounir> RyanVM: the problem with m-c and m-i is that the are often not at all in sync
1578. # [14:56] <RyanVM> before I got hired, I still knew to not break m-c
1579. # [14:56] <@mounir> so if you are on m-c it's not trivial to get to the tip of m-i
1580. # [14:56] <RyanVM> checkin-needed
1581. # [14:56] <@mounir> if you working directory is m-i, the entire idea of m-i/m-c disappears
1582. # [14:57] * froydnj pushes patches from week-old copies of m-c onto m-i all the time
1583. # [14:57] <@mounir> froydnj: in that case, m-c is probably a sub-set of m-i
1584. # [14:57] <@mounir> it gets more annoying when you have a fresh m-c
1585. # [14:58] <froydnj> mounir: still often a subset of m-i, though
1586. # [14:58] <paul> I need a build peer for code changes in configure.in and /browser/
1587. # [14:59] <froydnj> paul: :mshal or :ted.m if you need them today-ish; :glandium if you can wait a bit
1588. # [14:59] <paul> thanks
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1625. # [15:23] <peterv> Gijs: I'm going to have to talk to bz about this, there's some compartment confusion
1626. # [15:23] <RyanVM> dangit, nical's not around
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1628. # [15:23] <RyanVM> think he'd mind if I went ahead and pushed that patch
1629. # [15:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b196df92475e - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 1004191 - Destroy LayerTransactionChild r=nical,bjacob
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1644. # [15:35] <NeilAway> past: use NS_ConvertUTF16ToUTF8(wide_string).get() ?
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1647. # [15:36] <past> NeilAway: thanks, I will try that
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1655. # [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8cb72117e76c - Victor Porof - Bug 1006586 - Remove smoothscrolling from the breadcrumbs widget, r=rcampbell
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1657. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e850f24d9fe6 - Victor Porof - Bug 1006825 - Variable values in the inspection popup look ugly when touching the popup's edge, r=rcampbell
1658. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/105c4b8040a5 - Victor Porof - Bug 1006878 - The input box is slightly misplaced when editing properties with no value (getters/setters), r=rcampbell
1659. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f931138b37fc - Victor Porof - Bug 1006489 - Scopes in the debugger don't always reexpand after stepping, r=rcampbell
1660. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b65207ca7808 - Victor Porof - Bug 1006915 - The node inspect icon in the variables view should appear before the F/S/N/Lock icons, r=rcampbell
1661. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/05ce9c31a1ad - Victor Porof - Bug 1006666 - Increase the timeout required to show the variables inspection popup, r=rcampbell
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1686. # [15:56] <bkelly> is there a reason we don't run m-e10s tests on debug builds? (as far as I can tell looking at tbpl)
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1694. # [16:00] <RyanVM> bkelly: billm would be the person to ask
1695. # [16:00] <RyanVM> my guess is because they aren't green
1696. # [16:00] <bkelly> ok, thanks
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1698. # [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7d7cc47bcc6 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 924622 - Make sure gfx's ipc shutdown happens before shutting down xpcom threads. r=bsmedberg, r=sotaro
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1701. # [16:00] <petruta> ping hurley
1702. # [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9120071e807 - Roberto A. Vitillo - Bug 880864 - User dictionary (persdict.dat) read on main thread. r=mayhemer
1703. # [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca470540691c - Szu-Yu Chen [:aknow] - Bug 1004152 - Delay telephony.dial for 1s in test cases. r=hsinyi
1704. # [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1202c98de44 - Bob Owen - Bug 996280 - Use the docshell's sandbox flags if we can't get the active document in IsSandboxedFrom(). r=smaug
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1714. # [16:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a0840fbb59fd - Ting-Yu Lin - Bug 1006986 - Fix build fail for flame debug. r=echou
1715. # [16:04] <RyanVM> bkelly: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Holly
1716. # [16:04] <RyanVM> bkelly: so yeah, very much orange :P
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1718. # [16:05] <bkelly> RyanVM: holly branch is e10s?
1719. # [16:05] <RyanVM> interesting, win7/win8 opt are green
1720. # [16:05] <RyanVM> yes
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1722. # [16:05] <bkelly> cool, thanks for the link
1723. # [16:05] <RyanVM> np
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1726. # [16:07] <bobowen> RyanVM: yaci thanks.
1727. # [16:07] <RyanVM> :)
1728. # [16:07] <jimm> curious if anyone knows - how can I do a search across our addins code base to see if addins are using something? Should I file a bug or is there a public search available?
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1733. # [16:11] <paul> jimm: I did something like that 6 years ago… but iirc, it was not something public.
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1735. # [16:12] <_AxS_> jimm: hehe.. break whatever it is, wait a month, see what addins report brokenness? :P
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1741. # [16:14] <jcranmer> jimm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/addons
1742. # [16:14] <jimm> oh sweet
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1744. # [16:14] <jcranmer> you need LDAP auth to access it
1745. # [16:15] <jcranmer> and if you're trying to find only addons that are relevant to modern versions... :-/
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1748. # [16:15] <jimm> jcranmer: great, thanks
1749. # [16:16] <jcranmer> hmm
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1751. # [16:16] <jimm> heh, one hit for the 'invalidformsubmit' observer
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1755. # [16:16] <froydnj> jimm: don't break that by trying to remove it!
1756. # [16:16] <froydnj> (the *formsubmit observers work in very weird ways :( )
1757. # [16:17] <jimm> froydnj: with e10s it's broken in chrome since observers don't get sent over.
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1759. # [16:17] <jimm> trying to figure out if I need to do something about that.
1760. # [16:17] <froydnj> jimm: fun!
1761. # [16:18] <froydnj> jimm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/HTMLFormElement.cpp#1807 (and the {early,}formsubmit stuff earlier in the file)
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1764. # [16:19] <@Cwiiis> when you make changes to something that affects mach, what do you need to do for it to get picked up? Is there a build script to run or somesuch?
1765. # [16:20] <froydnj> Cwiiis: as in modifying mach_commands.py files?
1766. # [16:20] <@Cwiiis> yeah, and hah, I forgot to hit return and it hadn't saved :p
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1768. # [16:20] <froydnj> Cwiiis: make sure the machine is plugged in too :)
1769. # [16:21] <sewardj> ted: ping
1770. # [16:21] <@Cwiiis> froydnj: :)
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1772. # [16:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df2472ecd34f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d7d7cc47bcc6 (bug 924622) for bustage.
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1775. # [16:24] <Gijs> peterv: huh, OK. Is there a workaround I can use in the meantime?
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1779. # [16:26] <peterv> Gijs: it should be specific to that test
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1781. # [16:26] <peterv> Gijs: with the indirect eval
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1783. # [16:27] <Gijs> peterv: aha, OK. That makes some sense. :)
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1785. # [16:27] <peterv> Gijs: so the workaround is to ignore that test for now ;-)
1786. # [16:27] <Gijs> peterv: right. I'll turn the is into a todo and move on for now
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1798. # [16:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03fdda1af1f4 - Jan Varga - Bug 975696 - Split ArchiveReader and FileHandle implementation into separate dirs. r=bent f=baku
1799. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8b73142e2e8 - Jan Varga - Bug 1002014 - Error case leak in AsmJSCache.cpp AllocEntryParent(); r=luke
1800. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef60f8aa9a01 - Jan Varga - Bug 984789 - FileHandle: Eliminate nsIFileStorage; r=bent
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1803. # [16:36] <philor> somebody broke win64 debug with an assertion in tracemalloc on m-i yesterday
1804. # [16:36] <philor> this would be a great time to stop pretending we'll ever fix it
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1809. # [16:39] <@ted> sewardj: pong
1810. # [16:40] <sewardj> ted: who's a good person to ask b2g build system questions?
1811. # [16:41] <@ted> sewardj: i usually ask mwu
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1813. # [16:41] <sewardj> ted: ok, thx
1814. # [16:41] <@ted> sewardj: while you're here, what's the status of breakpad in sps nowadays?
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1817. # [16:41] <@ted> are you still using it on some platforms?
1818. # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9f472f288d45 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1819. # [16:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a8e4c11c2f27 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1820. # [16:42] <sewardj> ted: I think it is still hooked up. I am not sure if it is really used, though.
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1823. # [16:42] <@ted> sewardj: okay, if it's not being used i'd like to unhook it and remove that integration
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1825. # [16:43] <sewardj> ted: I think that it might still be used for native unwind on MacOS
1826. # [16:43] <@ted> okay
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1828. # [16:43] <sewardj> ted: it might be possible to transfer that functionality to LUL, with a bit of work
1829. # [16:43] <sewardj> that would allow unhooking breakpad.
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1831. # [16:44] <@ted> that'd be great
1832. # [16:44] <@ted> i never got all those patches upstreamed, so if we're not actively using them i'd like to shed them
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1853. # [16:52] <sewardj> ted: yes. I'd need to check the details
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1860. # [16:55] <@ted> sewardj: okay, i'll file a bug so i don't forget
1861. # [16:55] <sewardj> ted: that would be a good thing to do
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1863. # [16:56] <bogdan_maris> Can someone tell me how can I get my hands on an ARM simulator build?
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1865. # [16:57] <@ted> sewardj: thanks, kept meaning to ask you about that but every time i thought about it you weren't around :)
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1874. # [17:03] <Gijs> If I use -u mochitests in my try syntax, will that also run the android mochitests?
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1879. # [17:03] <@Cwiiis> I've added an option to mach and the help shows that it worked, but when I use it, it says that there's no such option... Does running mach not run your local mach, or am I missing something?
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1885. # [17:04] <froydnj> Cwiiis: did you add the option and the keyword argument to the function where it gets used?
1886. # [17:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0c8b19312abf - Valentin Gosu - Bug 1005578 - Change nsIURI object from nsStandardURL to nsJSURI when calling url.href. r=bz, a=sledru
1887. # [17:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/56d4c53323c0 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 1000598 - Clear TypeCompartment tables. r=billm, a=sledru
1888. # [17:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/10e5a05f34b3 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 1000960 - IonMonkey (ARM): Correct the order of the operands in moveFloat32. r=mjrosenb, a=sledru
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1904. # [17:11] <@Cwiiis> froydnj: I believe so? Give me a few minutes and I'll just pastebin the diff, it's not big
1905. # [17:11] <@Cwiiis> (in a meeting)
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1908. # [17:13] <froydnj> Cwiiis: and the error too please
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1937. # [17:34] <@Cwiiis> froydnj: the patch: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5092393
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1940. # [17:34] <@Cwiiis> froydnj: the error is "mach: error: no such option: --sps-profile"
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1959. # [17:41] <Gijs> Cwiiis: are you using ./mach to run this, or without the ./, and if you're using the latter, have you verified that it's pointing to the mach in the tree you changed?
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1961. # [17:42] <@Cwiiis> Gijs: I'm using ./mach and I see my command if I run --help talos-test
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1963. # [17:43] <jmaher> Cwiiis: I believe --sps-profile only works on try server
1964. # [17:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/79485e6a1d67 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1965. # [17:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/688faff3a5d3 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1966. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: this suggests differently: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos/Profiling#Locally
1967. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I had a look at the checkout of talos it makes and the option's there too
1968. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: it's looking like it fails before then
1969. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> (but I don't know)
1970. # [17:44] <jmaher> Cwiiis: if you run talos locally, --spsProfile will work, I don't know if mach supports it though
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1972. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: that's what this patch is doing
1973. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> (hopefully)
1974. # [17:44] <@Cwiiis> it currently doesn't
1975. # [17:45] <jmaher> oh, sorry to interject without context
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1978. # [17:45] <@Cwiiis> all help appreciated :)
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1986. # [17:49] <jmaher> Cwiiis: your error message is unable to file --sps-profile, the talos command is --spsProfile
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1991. # [17:52] <armenzg> why is the build system looking for gcc under the source tree?
1992. # [17:52] <armenzg> checking for gcc... /home/armenzg/repos/branches/mozilla-inbound/gcc/bin/gcc
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2001. # [17:55] <@ted> armenzg: huh, do you have GCC set in your environment or mozconfig?
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2007. # [17:56] <armenzg> ted, mozconfig https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5092551
2008. # [17:56] <armenzg> "/opt:/opt:/home/armenzg/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
2009. # [17:56] <armenzg> path
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2011. # [17:57] <armenzg> the whole log https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5092555
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2019. # [18:00] * armenzg adds debugging to configure
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2022. # [18:01] <armenzg> I think it is client.mk
2023. # [18:01] <@ted> armenzg: oh, you're trying to use the official mozconfig
2024. # [18:01] <@ted> don't do that
2025. # [18:01] <armenzg> what should I use?
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2027. # [18:01] <@ted> those are setup to work for build machines, not your machine
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2029. # [18:01] <dougt> why is tools/quitter/chrome.manifest being modified in my src tree after a build?
2030. # [18:01] <@ted> you don't need a mozconfig at all really if you just want to build a normal firefox
2031. # [18:01] <@ted> dougt: there's a bug
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2035. # [18:02] <armenzg> ted, thank you ted
2036. # [18:02] <@ted> dougt: bug 1006541
2037. # [18:02] <armenzg> that's better
2038. # [18:02] <_AxS_> ted: doesn't that depend on the machine you're building on?
2039. # [18:02] <@ted> armenzg: np
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2042. # [18:02] <armenzg> I just really cared about the MOZ_OBJDIR
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2044. # [18:02] <@ted> _AxS_: by default builds with no mozconfig should just work
2045. # [18:02] <@ted> _AxS_: obviously for non tier-1 platforms that may not hold true
2046. # [18:03] <_AxS_> ted: gentoo relies rather heavily on .mozconfig to set proper flags ; although I suppose those might be settable directly to ./configure ...
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2049. # [18:03] <@ted> _AxS_: building official releases is another thing, we use lots of flags
2050. # [18:03] <jcranmer> you can add a .mozconfig with some stuff
2051. # [18:03] <@ted> but for a normal dev build you shouldn't need them
2052. # [18:03] * _AxS_ nods
2053. # [18:03] <jcranmer> but you don't need to use the official mozconfigs
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2055. # [18:04] * jcranmer has a mozconfig that consists of setting MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS, MOZ_OBJDIR, and --disable-debug --enable-optimize --disable-debug-symbols
2056. # [18:04] <_AxS_> armenzg: no need for MOZ_OBJDIR if you do an out-of-source build: mkdir mybuilddir; cd mybuilddir; /path/to/m-c/configure [options] ; make
2057. # [18:04] <@ted> eh
2058. # [18:04] <@ted> just use mach build
2059. # [18:05] <@ted> if you dn't specify MOZ_OBJDIR it'll make one for you
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2061. # [18:05] <jcranmer> I like my objdirs in particular, non-default locations
2062. # [18:05] <@ted> well then feel free to do that
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2064. # [18:05] <@ted> i'm just saying for armenzg using the defaults makes sense
2065. # [18:05] <@ted> everyone has their ingrained habits
2066. # [18:06] <@ted> but there's actually a well-supported way of doing things nowadays, we should encourage people to do that and not follow old habits
2067. # [18:06] <jcranmer> well, I kicked the habit of "--disable-everything!"
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2069. # [18:06] <armenzg> ted, I need to flush my brain
2070. # [18:06] * jcranmer wonders how many of the --disable-* options are actually usable
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2072. # [18:06] <armenzg> I want to have various objdirs
2073. # [18:07] <armenzg> depending on which project I work on
2074. # [18:07] <@ted> then feel free to set an OBJDIR
2075. # [18:08] <jcranmer> --disable-exact-rooting Enable use of conservative stack scanning for GC
2076. # [18:08] <jcranmer> lol
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2082. # [18:10] <bkelly> do I have to do something special to disable popup blocking in a mochitest if I want to use window.open()?
2083. # [18:10] <@bz> bkelly: no
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2085. # [18:10] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: right, but my patch doesn't make it call talos with --sps-profile, it adds sps_profile to the config (which I've checked is correct) - unless I really misunderstand how this works...
2086. # [18:11] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: the error seems to be coming from mach, not from talos
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2090. # [18:11] <bkelly> bz: hmm... ok... doesn't seem to be opening for me... must be something else I am doing.. thanks
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2093. # [18:12] <@bz> bkelly: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/profiles/prefs_general.js?force=1#10 should be turning off the popup blocker
2094. # [18:12] <@bz> bkelly: and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/profiles/prefs_general.js?force=1#17 removes the cap
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2096. # [18:13] <bkelly> thanks
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2102. # [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4341602f99b0 - Steven Michaud - Bug 996848 - Rewrite Mac nsAppShell native event handling. r=spohl
2103. # [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf9cc4b2aae6 - Steven Michaud - Bug 996848 - Change expectAssertion() in tests because of removed assertion. r=spohl
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2113. # [18:18] <bkelly> is there any way to get console.log() output from ./mach mochitest-plain?
2114. # [18:18] <bkelly> or should I be running my mochitests a different way?
2115. # [18:18] <padenot> bkelly: ctrl+shift+k
2116. # [18:18] <padenot> and look in the console
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2118. # [18:19] <padenot> or use `dump("blablabla");` to dump to stdout, iirc
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2120. # [18:19] <bkelly> oh... hmm... I guess I should run them on my real machine and not a vm with a dummy display
2121. # [18:19] <bkelly> I tried dump, though...
2122. # [18:19] <bkelly> let me try that again
2123. # [18:19] <padenot> ah yes, that might help
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2125. # [18:20] <@bz> dump() should work
2126. # [18:20] <bkelly> oh, dump works... thanks!
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2158. # [18:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86f9003c1251 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 924622 - Make sure gfx's ipc shutdown happens before shutting down xpcom threads. r=bsmedberg, sotaro
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2161. # [18:30] <victorporof> edmorley|sheriffduty: there's a bit of dt1 orange on fx-team, which might have been caused by my push
2162. # [18:31] <victorporof> i'm looking into it
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2165. # [18:32] <bkelly> relative path to the target file should work for window.open() in a mochitest, right?
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2167. # [18:32] <bkelly> I see other tests doing that anyway
2168. # [18:32] <froydnj> ought to, yes
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2173. # [18:34] <edmorley|sheriffduty> victorporof: cool, ty :-)
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2185. # [18:38] <jorendorff> I'm running fedora on a retina MacBook Pro. Is there any way to tell Firefox to use the retina icons and font sizes? Everything is tiny.
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2188. # [18:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72b41e294442 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1006026 - remove duplicate distclean:: rule in rules.mk; r=mshal
2189. # [18:41] <_AxS_> what DE are you using? i'd expect icon size would be something the DE trigers...
2190. # [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0a1a11ea253 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 997341 - modify content/xul/document/test/bug497875-iframe.xul to not connect to mozilla.org; r=smaug
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2240. # [19:06] <RyanVM> lulz, answering telemarketing calls with a Grover voice works really well
2241. # [19:06] <RyanVM> love when they hang up on me :D
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2257. # [19:14] <jesup> gaston: give that a ry :-)
2258. # [19:15] <jesup> try even
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2260. # [19:15] <jaws> Cww: ping?
2261. # [19:16] <vingtetun> dbaron: ping
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2263. # [19:16] * jesup --disable-webrtc should work with the patch on bug 981780
2264. # [19:16] <Cww> jaws: in a workweek, but I can answer quick questions.
2265. # [19:16] <jaws> Cww: was your comment in bug 1004576 stating that you can still reproduce this?
2266. # [19:17] <@dbaron> vingtetun, pong
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2269. # [19:17] <Cww> jaws: I'm saying your comment about it being specific people who set sliders to extremes is incorrect.
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2271. # [19:18] <jaws> Cww: yeah, i got that :)
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2274. # [19:18] <jaws> just wasn't sure if my patch was insufficient
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2278. # [19:18] <Cww> jaws: was more directed at the decision to not push for 29.0.1
2279. # [19:18] <jaws> ok
2280. # [19:19] <Cww> people with vision problems use high-contrast
2281. # [19:19] <Cww> and people with vision problems are going to have the hardest time with dark-on-dark text
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2284. # [19:19] <vingtetun> dbaron: if we have a <template> element that contains a <link rel="stylesheet">, and the template is cloned a few times, and the result is appended to the dom. Does the layout engine will try to load the css file multiple times ?
2285. # [19:19] <vingtetun> see https://github.com/wilsonpage/gaia/commit/9b9134901a12dcf7c0335e216a4dcd89d6dde378
2286. # [19:20] <@dbaron> vingtetun, we should coalesce things
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2288. # [19:20] <@dbaron> vingtetun, as long as you never touch the CSSOM of the style sheet, at least
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2290. # [19:20] <@dbaron> vingtetun, if you poke at the CSSOM in any way, then we'll un-share the style sheet object representation
2291. # [19:20] <@dbaron> vingtetun, although it'll still be the result of the single parse
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2294. # [19:21] <vingtetun> dbaron: so as long as we dont use the document stylesheets API it should be fine, is that it ?
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2297. # [19:21] <marco> how can I import a JS application-specific module ("resource:///modules/AModule.jsm") in a xpcshell test?
2298. # [19:22] <@dbaron> vingtetun, or the equivalent property (I think there is one) on the link element, I think so
2299. # [19:22] <@dbaron> vingtetun, I mean... it would be cheaper not to do things more than once
2300. # [19:23] <@dbaron> vingtetun, but it shouldn't do all *that* much more than once
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2316. # [19:28] <vingtetun> dbaron: ok. i don't think we are going to touch the CSSOM of the style sheet but this is good to know. thanks.
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2328. # [19:33] <nemo> heh. picked a random element on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7711105 to try the editable box model
2329. # [19:33] <nemo> looks to be a <font> tag, but anyway
2330. # [19:34] <nemo> doubleclicked on the top padding , then border elements, and tried up arrow to scroll
2331. # [19:34] <nemo> watched CPU max out as firefox completely freaked out over this
2332. # [19:34] <nemo> value jumped semi-randomly up to 22 w/ a lot of jank, and CPU settled a few seconds after I stopped hitting up arrow
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2335. # [19:35] <nemo> pretty much any value I pick to try this on seems to do this.
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2337. # [19:38] <edmorley|sheriffduty> victorporof: any news?
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2340. # [19:39] <victorporof> edmorley|sheriffduty: looks to be a simple "timing out while gc-ing after finish"
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2342. # [19:39] <victorporof> requestlongertimeout is probably the solution here, but i'm still looking into it to be sure
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2349. # [19:40] <edmorley|sheriffduty> victorporof: do you think you'll have a fix soon, or would it be best for us to back out now (fx-team is closed)
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2353. # [19:40] <Gijs> I want to disable a webidl component on b2g. I'm guessing I need to change the moz.build file, but what's the appropriate way to detect "any kind of b2g build" ?
2354. # [19:41] <victorporof> edmorley|sheriffduty: i think backing out might not be necessary. let's just land a requestlongertimeout
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2356. # [19:41] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: debug builds slow on AWS? say it ain't so...
2357. # [19:41] <victorporof> edmorley|sheriffduty: shall i do the "on a CLOSED TREE" thing?
2358. # [19:41] <edmorley|sheriffduty> victorporof: yes please
2359. # [19:41] <victorporof> ok
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2363. # [19:44] <victorporof> edmorley|sheriffduty: how do I get around the "needs a bug number" commit hook?
2364. # [19:44] <edmorley|sheriffduty> victorporof: add the bug number for the bug that made it regress :-)
2365. # [19:44] <edmorley|sheriffduty> victorporof: or (no bug)
2366. # [19:44] <victorporof> i don't know which bug made it regress :)
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2371. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in:
2372. # [19:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/072b2647a808 - Victor Porof - (no bug) Request longer timeout for browser_dbg_breakpoints-break-on-last-line-of-script-on-reload.js to hopefully fix timeouts while GC-ing after the test finishes on a CLOSED
2373. # [19:46] <firebot> TREE, r=me
2374. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85924e72f778 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 4341602f99b0 (bug 996848) for reftest failures on OS X
2375. # [19:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1c71b3ee0f2 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset bf9cc4b2aae6 (bug 996848)
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2385. # [19:51] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: do you know if bug 973138 is in the currently-available beta?
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2388. # [19:53] <@bz> hrm
2389. # [19:53] <@bz> If I answer a question on ask.m.o
2390. # [19:53] <@bz> and then someone adds a comment under my answer asking a followup question
2391. # [19:53] <@bz> how do I get notified?
2392. # [19:53] <@bz> (ideally in RSS form)
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2399. # [19:54] <@bsmedberg> bz: I don't know about RSS, probably not. There are email settings
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2403. # [19:55] <@bz> bsmedberg: I have all the mails turned on....
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2408. # [19:55] <@bsmedberg> bz: hrm. I get them in that state
2409. # [19:56] <@bz> bsmedberg: But I got no mail for the comment on https://ask.mozilla.org/question/619/how-to-check-the-input-of-a-js-impl-webild-method-is-a-non-negative-integer/
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2411. # [19:56] <@bz> bsmedberg: not that the comment did not include @bzbarsky....
2412. # [19:56] <@bz> bsmedberg: in case that matters
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2418. # [20:00] <jcranmer> froydnj: what did you do, kill the copy constructor?
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2422. # [20:00] <froydnj> jcranmer: yes, replacing it with a move constructor instead
2423. # [20:01] <froydnj> jcranmer: I expected things to blow up, of course
2424. # [20:01] * jcranmer toys with the idea of killing already_AddRefed
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2427. # [20:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so...smaug's a DOM peer for the sake of the webidl hook, right?
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2429. # [20:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan ^
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2432. # [20:03] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yes
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2436. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: in the case, have a new bug
2437. # [20:04] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: his name is in the hook as "smaug"
2438. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> r=jib, r=ehsan triggers the hook
2439. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> r=ehsan, r=jib doesn't
2440. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> whee
2441. # [20:04] <@ehsan> o_O
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2443. # [20:04] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can you file it plz?
2444. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm *LOVING* this so far, fwiw
2445. # [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc5a50413848 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 1002831 - Display remote and local SDP on about:webrtc. r=smaug, r=jib
2446. # [20:04] <@ehsan> in a meeting now
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2448. # [20:04] <@ehsan> sorry
2449. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7202bd8d3e15 - Doug Turner - Bug 1006051 - Implement nsIParentalControlsService on the Mac. r=smichaud
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2451. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92ea414327b6 - Randy Lin - Bug 969372 - Move mediaRecorder in global scope to avoid test timeout. r=jsmith
2452. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> because sr= was too much
2453. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35a9cc17dd0c - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 970734 - Part 2: Record final ICE/media stats when PeerConnections are closed, so they show up in about:webrtc. r=smaug, r=jib
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2455. # [20:05] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the irony is that sr= was supposed to be for API changes :(
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2457. # [20:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yup, I really was having a hard time understanding what the problem with sr was
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2459. # [20:05] <@smaug> what did ehsan hook me into
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2462. # [20:06] <jcranmer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I think people objected to the sr list not being the dom peer list?
2463. # [20:06] <jcranmer> or something like that?
2464. # [20:06] <dholbert> smaug, you are allowed to review changes to webidl, as a dom peer, and that is hook-enforced
2465. # [20:06] <dholbert> smaug, (to answer your question)
2466. # [20:07] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, the problem with sr= is, it has an existing meaning
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2468. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> which nobody uses anymore
2469. # [20:07] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, perhaps
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2471. # [20:08] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, if we want to deprecate it, that's something we could discuss
2472. # [20:08] * mcote|bbiab is now known as mcote
2473. # [20:08] <dholbert> but until we have, casually co-opting it for other uses is confusing
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2475. # [20:08] * @smaug wants to keep his sr powers!
2476. # [20:08] <@smaug> :p
2477. # [20:09] <bkelly> ah... my mochitest window.open() is failing because I forgot to set support_files in the manifest... oops!
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2490. # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/79f854e8a883 - Gorman Ho - Bug 993416 - Add "Paste Outer HTML" to the inspector context menu. r=bgrins
2491. # [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/be64fe402981 - Richard Marti - Bug 989890 - Port the help button to in-content prefs. r=jaws
2492. # [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7ae6a7b925be - Irakli Gozalishvili - Bug 1000480 - Fix regression in root actors protocolDescription requests. r=dcamp
2493. # [20:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/edbab1ddf49f - Rob Campbell - Bug 998302 - Connect to about:config instead of about:credits to avoid accessing mozilla.org when the test runs. r=robcee
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2497. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bc2682a7248c - Irakli Gozalishvili - Bug 1004840 - Fix regression in root actors protocolDescription requests. r=dcamp
2498. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/76d92dc4bbce - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 7ae6a7b925be for landing with the wrong bug number.
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2500. # [20:21] <froydnj> hm, no move constructor for nsTArray yet
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2502. # [20:22] <jcranmer> really?
2503. # [20:23] <jcranmer> I know there's one for nsCOMArray
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2509. # [20:24] <froydnj> I think khuey|away had written a patch, but ran into gcc 4.4 difficulties
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2525. # [20:30] <sicking> bsmedberg: what's CDM in the context of the Flash email?
2526. # [20:30] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
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2529. # [20:31] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I thought khuey|away just tried with methods on nsTArray, not making the array itself movable
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2532. # [20:32] <jesup> dholbert: I keep removing that.... need to pull
2533. # [20:32] <dholbert> jesup, yeah, update to stop the pain
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2544. # [20:36] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, I'm here now
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2546. # [20:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: i filed it
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2548. # [20:36] <@ehsan> thanks
2549. # [20:36] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: #?
2550. # [20:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: assigned to you :)
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2552. # [20:37] <@ehsan> aha!
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2554. # [20:37] <@ehsan> my email client is a bit lazy
2555. # [20:37] <@ehsan> oh, thunderbird
2556. # [20:37] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so just one question, you used r=ehsan as an example, right?
2557. # [20:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug
2558. # [20:38] <@ehsan> great!
2559. # [20:38] <grobinson> if I wanted to get the attention of all of the Gaia app devs, what mailing list should I use?
2560. # [20:38] <@ehsan> you scared me for a sec!
2561. # [20:38] <@ehsan> grobinson: dev-gaia
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2563. # [20:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: r=ehsan for another day's problem ;)
2564. # [20:38] <@smaug> jst: we need to make ehsan a DOM peer
2565. # [20:38] <grobinson> ehsan: thanks!
2566. # [20:38] <froydnj> smaug++
2567. # [20:38] <@ehsan> smaug: nooooo
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2569. # [20:38] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: heh fair enough :D
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2572. # [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b31b063b8aad - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
2573. # [20:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ed4851d029e9 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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2578. # [20:44] <jduell> bz: biesi_ : do we support redirecting from http:// to file:// ?
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2580. # [20:44] <jduell> I assume not, for security reasons
2581. # [20:44] <@bz> jduell: correct
2582. # [20:44] <@bz> jduell: redirects do a checkloaduri check
2583. # [20:45] <@bz> jduell: (note that there are user prefs you can set to allow such a redirect, though)
2584. # [20:45] <jduell> bz: can we ignore those prefs? :)
2585. # [20:46] <jduell> and/or what are their names?
2586. # [20:46] * froydnj bets some large automatic deployment of ff uses those prefs
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2598. # [20:50] <@bz> jduell: ignore in what sense?
2599. # [20:51] <@bz> jduell: The names are ... see bug 995943
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2601. # [20:51] <@bz> jduell: in short, you can white-list a set of domains that are allowed to link to file://
2602. # [20:51] <jduell> bz: we're doing an IPC version of the file:// protocol, and it would be a lot simpler if it didn't need to support being redirected-to.
2603. # [20:51] <@bz> jduell: I see
2604. # [20:51] <jduell> Not a huge deal, but if this is some never-used pref that we can deprecate...
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2606. # [20:52] <@bz> jduell: Oh, the pref is used. ;)
2607. # [20:52] <@bz> jduell: Whether anyone actually does a 3xx to file:// on the other hand...
2608. # [20:52] <jduell> bz: ok, then we'll bite the bullet. It's not that much work
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2610. # [20:52] <@bz> jduell: I would guess not
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2612. # [20:52] <@bz> jduell: so we could not support that as a first cut
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2614. # [20:52] <jduell> bz: guessing against the Internet is a risky business :)
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2616. # [20:52] <@bz> heh
2617. # [20:52] <@bz> intranet
2618. # [20:52] <@bz> in this case
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2620. # [20:53] <@bz> no one on the _inter_net does that sort of thing, really..
2621. # [20:53] <jduell> betting against the intranet is even worse :)
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2623. # [20:53] <@bz> "no one" statistically speaking
2624. # [20:53] <@bz> so it might be a few million people... ;)
2625. # [20:53] * @bz is sure jduell feels encouraged now.
2626. # [20:53] <@bz> Seriously, I don't expect 3xx to file:// to happen much
2627. # [20:53] <jduell> hey that's more than NTLM
2628. # [20:54] <jcranmer> just like no one uses UTF-7
2629. # [20:54] <jduell> It won't be that much work to support.
2630. # [20:54] <sicking> jedp: any chance we could do our meeting at 4pm instead?
2631. # [20:54] <jedp> sicking sure
2632. # [20:54] <@bz> It wasn't the first feature that broke the camel's fat back
2633. # [20:54] <sicking> jedp: thanks!
2634. # [20:54] * @bz mixes metaphors
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2636. # [20:55] <jedp> sicking thanks for your time!
2637. # [20:55] <sicking> bz: my new favorite mixed metafor is "we'll burn that bridge when we get to it"
2638. # [20:55] <@bz> sicking: ;)
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2640. # [20:56] <jduell> sicking: that's not a mixed metaphor
2641. # [20:56] <jduell> It's a philosophy
2642. # [20:56] <jcranmer> my favorite mixed metaphor is "meow"
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2646. # [20:57] <tjr-> Hi all. I wanted to ask about a particular code pattern I'm seeing a lot: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/fef1a56f0237/view/src/nsViewManager.cpp#l97
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2648. # [20:57] <@ehsan> ted: here's my faily prevnet_webidl_hook patch for today: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=1007235&attachment=8418891
2649. # [20:57] <tjr-> Is the #ifdef / tmpvar = / #endif function(); NS_ASSERT done because in non-debug builds done for a particular reason? A friend suggested it might be a compiler/static analyzer wanring about unused variables, which makes sense... but I wanted to inquire
2650. # [20:57] <@ehsan> ted: I should just set up a cron job :/
2651. # [20:58] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, ping
2652. # [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: pong
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2654. # [20:59] <sicking> jduell: :)
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2657. # [20:59] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, hey, thanks for looking at uplifting bug 982779
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2659. # [20:59] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, the plan is to now uplift 999742 first
2660. # [20:59] <bent> that should make it not need a rebase
2661. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> great
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2664. # [21:00] <bent> hopefully i set the right flags for all that
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2666. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: yeah, once the other bug gets 1.4+, we should be good
2667. # [21:00] <bent> looks like that just happened, great
2668. # [21:00] <bent> thanks
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2672. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ff9afcc49b24 - Ben Turner - Bug 918595 - Close all cached file descriptors on TabChild shutdown, r=jduell.
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2675. # [21:05] <@ted> ehsan: hah
2676. # [21:05] <@ehsan> ted: sorry :(
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2679. # [21:06] <@ted> ehsan: np, this shit is hard
2680. # [21:06] <vladan> bbondy: hi brian
2681. # [21:06] <@ehsan> indeed
2682. # [21:06] <@ted> ehsan: at least you're adding unit tests for all these stupid things so you won't have to fix them again
2683. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ++
2684. # [21:06] <@ehsan> yeah
2685. # [21:07] <@ehsan> ted: but that makes the whole process only so much more embarrassing ;)
2686. # [21:07] <@ehsan> I don't even have the "no tests" excuse!
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2690. # [21:08] <@ted> hah
2691. # [21:08] <@ted> i dunno, trying to do anything useful with the commits in our repo is maddening
2692. # [21:08] <@ted> especially trying to parse info out of commit messages etc
2693. # [21:08] <@ehsan> :(
2694. # [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c60dc0095e7a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
2695. # [21:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8e1b7bb18072 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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2709. # [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3838be7a8148 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e2bba39c0385 (bug 995777) for Android 4.0 robocop-2 perma-fail.
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2725. # [21:23] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: FYI, I chatted with padenot this morning. He's going to look at the slice assert bug
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2728. # [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/865919c5d41a - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 859683 - Allow scrolling in full-screen mode if and only if the full-screen element is the document element. r=wesj
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2730. # [21:23] <@bsmedberg> glandium: yt?
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2732. # [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: cool
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2738. # [21:26] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping - reassigned a review to you (bug 1002340 - change REPEATING_PRECISE to REPEATING_PRECISE_CAN_SKIP). Also - I'm thinking of adding an assertion to debug builds to fire if event queues get "too big"; any suggestions on what "too big" should be? Or just try-and-see?
2739. # [21:26] <@bsmedberg> I'm skeptical that you can find a useful threshold
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2741. # [21:28] <jesup> bsmedberg: well, for this recent bug we probably hit 10's if not 100's of thousands. I think that's too big. :-)
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2744. # [21:29] <jesup> At some point a large-enough event queue is effectively a sign of massive "jank" or DoS
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2746. # [21:30] <jesup> I suspect it would help diagnose perf issues on b2g-emulator (or at least flag tests that need to be disabled on it)
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2754. # [21:32] <@ehsan> sfink: so, I'm not sure how to parse https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994964#c120
2755. # [21:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cb4e164d59c - Yura Zenevich - Bug 1001945 - increasing timer intervals to fix an intermittents related to long SimpleTest.executeSoon. r=eeejay
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2762. # [21:41] <sfink> ehsan: I'm just hoping bholley's suggestion in comment 119 is doable, so that I don't need the Rooted I was adding, and I was also hoping that the code I pasted in comment 120could be simplified or eliminated
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2764. # [21:41] <@ehsan> sfink: ok, I'm going to respond to his suggestion
2765. # [21:44] <NeilAway> tjr-: unused variables. The "modern" version is DebugOnly tmpvar = function();
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2767. # [21:48] <mrbkap> Is there no way to turn off the timeout for mach mochitest-plain?
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2771. # [21:49] <@ehsan> sfink: commented :/
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2775. # [21:53] <bhearsum> is there any documentation on processor syntax? specifically, the kind used in files like b2g/app/b2g.js?
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2777. # [21:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: can't win for losing :(
2778. # [21:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: the one thought I had would be trying to apply the changes from bug 910010 to those two files first, land your two patches, then try to revert the bug 910010 changes (figuring that those would be easier to rebase through vs. your giant patches)
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2780. # [21:55] <tjr-> NeilAway: Awesome! Thanks so much.
2781. # [21:55] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, thanks, i think i'll just try rebasing 999742
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2783. # [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: good luck
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2809. # [22:08] <kats> bhearsum: you mean preprocessor?
2810. # [22:09] <@bz> Why does my tools/quitter/chrome.manifest
2811. # [22:09] <@bz> keep ending up locally modified?
2812. # [22:09] <froydnj> bz: because you have an old tree
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2814. # [22:09] <@bz> I see
2815. # [22:09] <mccr8> bz: bug 1006541
2816. # [22:09] <mccr8> if you want the details
2817. # [22:09] <@bz> It's about a day old...
2818. # [22:09] <bhearsum> kats: yes...
2819. # [22:09] <bhearsum> yes
2820. # [22:09] <@bz> thanks
2821. # [22:09] * @bz will update
2822. # [22:09] <kats> bhearsum: build/docs/preprocessor.rst
2823. # [22:10] <bhearsum> thanks!
2824. # [22:10] <kats> bhearsum: https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/master/build/docs/preprocessor.rst if you want it all pretty-like
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2827. # [22:11] <bhearsum> kats: huh, no greater or less than support - do you know if there's some way to emulate that?
2828. # [22:11] <bhearsum> maybe one or two == will be sufficient for me...
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2830. # [22:12] <kats> bhearsum: you can add support for it probably
2831. # [22:12] <kats> https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/master/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/preprocessor.py
2832. # [22:12] <bhearsum> got it :)
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2855. # [22:26] <jesup> bsmedberg: I think my max-event-queue-depth patch might be useful; in this bug, with the patch = max = ~350 I think; without the patch I grabbed it in GDB after a minute or so (while trying to quit) and (gdb) p mEventCount $1 = 3140786 and still growing ;-)
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2858. # [22:27] <jesup> It'll take a while to process 3M events which involve audio resamples....
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2861. # [22:28] <jesup> Now I just have to fight the crash-if-you-log-too-late-in-shutdown annoyance
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2863. # [22:28] <jesup> ehsan: ^
2864. # [22:28] <@ehsan> ?
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2866. # [22:28] <Gijs> Does anyone know about external protocol handling on Linux ?
2867. # [22:29] <@ehsan> jesup: what am I looking at?
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2869. # [22:29] <Gijs> The two recent bugs about this (bug 1005626 and dupe) make me wonder if we broke something :s
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2874. # [22:30] <jesup> ehsan: maximum event queue depth (PRECISE_CAN_SKIP = ~350, PRECISE = 3M and still growing while trying to quit). Looking at a patch to assert if event queues get "too deep", bsmedberg was wondering if there was any reasonable limit to use at all
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2877. # [22:31] <@ehsan> hmm
2878. # [22:31] <@ehsan> jesup: where are those numbers coming from?
2879. # [22:31] <jesup> a patch I haven't uploaded yet to keep a current and max count of events in eventqueues
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2881. # [22:31] <jesup> and dump out on ~nsEventQueue
2882. # [22:32] <froydnj> Gijs: I remember being frustrated when trying to add my own, had to go manually modify .rdf files, but clueless otherwise
2883. # [22:32] <Gijs> froydnj: hrm, ok
2884. # [22:32] <froydnj> Gijs: would not surprise me if something broke; all the instructions I found via google were wrong one way or another
2885. # [22:32] <@ehsan> jesup: oh, so you're just measuring the status quo?
2886. # [22:32] <Gijs> froydnj: sounds like just another day in linux-land :\
2887. # [22:32] <jesup> Works well, except for the crashing-becuase-i-log-too-late-in-shutdown part I think
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2889. # [22:33] <froydnj> Gijs: yeah :( and with all these developers on linux, too...
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2892. # [22:33] <Gijs> froydnj: (I just googled, and also failed to find information on how these .desktop files work, and what API you can use to query stuff, or anything else useful...)
2893. # [22:33] <Gijs> (like, is this a new thing? I have no idea)
2894. # [22:33] <@ehsan> jesup: but what guarantees such an assertion to not fire?
2895. # [22:33] <jesup> ehsan: this is on the test for bug 1002340, with and without the patch. Most queues never go above 1, a few go as high as 8
2896. # [22:34] <froydnj> Gijs: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
2897. # [22:34] <froydnj> Gijs: been around for a while
2898. # [22:35] <Waldo> aaaaugh http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/canvas/src/WebGLElementArrayCache.cpp#481 lack of bracing hurting my eyes
2899. # [22:35] <@ehsan> jesup: so it won't fire under normal circumstances, but what guarantees it to not fire in pathological cases?
2900. # [22:35] <Gijs> froydnj: erm, that spec doesn't list x-scheme-handler as a valid key
2901. # [22:35] <jesup> ehsan: I don't understand the question... the point would be to have it fire if we get a "runaway", both for debugging purposes, and for diagnosing things like b2g-emulator tests going off into the weeds due to lack of horsepower. It's also useful in tracking possible sources of stalls.
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2903. # [22:35] <froydnj> Gijs: well, perhaps the spec has been modified in the wild by consensus
2904. # [22:36] <jesup> it's be a debug-only assertion (wouldn't even count events in opt builds probably)
2905. # [22:36] <froydnj> Gijs: googling for x-scheme-handler certainly turns up people who expect it to work
2906. # [22:36] <Gijs> froydnj: oh, wait, it actually seems to be not a key but a value for the "MimeType" key
2907. # [22:36] <@ehsan> jesup: hmm, ok, I'd warn in that case, but a non-fatal assertion will probably be ok too
2908. # [22:36] <froydnj> Gijs: yeah
2909. # [22:36] <jesup> Yeah, non-fatal is the plan
2910. # [22:37] <jesup> and have it avoid flooding by disabling teh assertion once it fires for a queue
2911. # [22:37] * froydnj tries to keep auto-generated C++ template magic straight and is failing
2912. # [22:38] <jesup> or disable for <time period> (for mainthread in particular)
2913. # [22:38] <jesup> ehsan: even just knowing the max depth in tbpl runs would be interesting
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2915. # [22:39] <@ehsan> jesup: sounds good to me
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2927. # [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1c5aa2062579 - Irving Reid - Bug 900954 - Expose addons.json flush to test harness. r=felipe, a=sledru
2928. # [22:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2919cce749c0 - Monica Chew - Bug 1005504 - Fix telemetry for application reputation. r=gcp, a=sledru
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2933. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8be0e21fd300 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 2f3f35b8cea3 and 7824a3826963 (bug 1002914) for intermittent mochitest-bc failures.
2934. # [22:56] <@smaug> gavin: feel free to forward that review request to someone else if needed
2935. # [22:57] <@smaug> typeaheadfind hasn't got too many changes recently
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2938. # [22:59] <@gavin> smaug: why is mDidAddObservers needed
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2940. # [23:00] <@smaug> gavin: the API doesn't prevent anyone to re-initialize the thing
2941. # [23:00] <reuben> what's the accepted practice for acknowledging more than one authors in a commit, since hg doesn't allow that?
2942. # [23:00] <@smaug> gavin: and observer service keeps adding observers to the list
2943. # [23:00] <reuben> just mention the authors in the comment?
2944. # [23:00] <@gavin> smaug: this happens in practice?
2945. # [23:00] <reuben> one author*
2946. # [23:00] <@smaug> I'm not aware of that
2947. # [23:01] <@gavin> did you notice this in testing or something, or is it speculative?
2948. # [23:01] <@smaug> this is speculative
2949. # [23:01] <@gavin> ok
2950. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d74281e6d571 - Malini Das - Bug 932804 - Fix oop frame tapping bug, r=dburns
2951. # [23:02] * bhearsum is now known as bhearsum|afk
2952. # [23:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a5a9a06f59a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 86f9003c1251 (bug 924622) for causing bug 1007284 (frequent mochitest-e10s-2 shutdown hangs).
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2959. # [23:07] <edburns> Greetings programs. Anyone here know Paul O'Shannessy ?
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2961. # [23:07] <@gavin> yes
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2963. # [23:07] <edburns> gavin: Is that yes to me or part of a conversation that was going on before I /join ed?
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2965. # [23:07] <@gavin> to you
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2967. # [23:08] <edburns> gavin: Thanks. I'm trying to put together a panel discussion at JavaOne (a Java developer conference in San Francisco) and I want to invite Paul.
2968. # [23:08] <dholbert> edburns, https://twitter.com/zpao is one way to contact him
2969. # [23:09] <@gavin> you should probably email him?
2970. # [23:09] <edburns> gavin: I'm trying to avoid sending him a cold email, but so far my contacts network is so stale I don't have any links.
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2972. # [23:09] <@gavin> you can say "Hey Paul, I talked to Gavin on IRC about you, he suggested I email you."
2973. # [23:09] <@gavin> that'll definitely get his attention
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2976. # [23:10] <edburns> gavin: you're funny.
2977. # [23:10] <dholbert> edburns, did you have something else in mind?
2978. # [23:11] <@gavin> or if you want you can tweet at him and I'll favorite it
2979. # [23:11] <edburns> dholbert: Well, if any of my ancient Netscape 6 contacts were still on this channel that knew him, I'd ask them to send him a heads-up mail.
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2983. # [23:12] <dholbert> edburns, (ah, wasn't aware you were a Netscape 6 guy. :) Thought you were just some random dude, asking #developers to get someone to come to your conference)
2984. # [23:12] <@gavin> oh, you're %acm.org edburns
2985. # [23:12] <edburns> I still have the denim jacket!
2986. # [23:12] <edburns> And the lucite trophy.
2987. # [23:13] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/base/content/content.js#31
2988. # [23:13] <edburns> The jacket is in mint condition, I've never worn it in anger (or otherwise)
2989. # [23:13] <jcranmer> where is that addMessageListener defined?
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2991. # [23:13] <edburns> gavin: I am that guy. As opposed to Ed Burns the actor director.
2992. # [23:13] <glandium> bsmedberg: pong
2993. # [23:13] <@smaug> jcranmer: that code runs in the TabChildGlobal
2994. # [23:14] <@smaug> so...
2995. # [23:14] <dao> jcranmer: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=addMessageListener
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2997. # [23:14] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsIMessageManager.idl#185
2998. # [23:14] <@bsmedberg> glandium: is it possible in today's moz.build world to have .cpp files in a single directory end up in different libraries/final link targets?
2999. # [23:14] <@smaug> which the global implements
3000. # [23:14] <edburns> gavin: Thanks for your help. I'll put "Gavin from irc.mozilla.org says hi" in the Subject. Is that ok?
3001. # [23:14] <@gavin> edburns: certainly!
3002. # [23:15] <glandium> bsmedberg: yes and no. No, not directly, but yes, you can if you refer it from several directories
3003. # [23:15] <edburns> I think it could be a fun panel disucssion. I'm trying to get someone from AngularJS, someone from React, and then two folks from the server-side UI camp, representing Vaadin and JSF.
3004. # [23:15] <jcranmer> smaug: thanks
3005. # [23:15] <edburns> Those latter two are java specific things that the JavaOne audience would know about.
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3007. # [23:15] <glandium> bsmedberg: that is, you can do SOURCES += ['otherdir/foo.c']
3008. # [23:15] <@bsmedberg> glandium: ah ok, is ".." allowed in that case?
3009. # [23:15] <glandium> bsmedberg: yes
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3011. # [23:15] <@bsmedberg> cool thanks
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3013. # [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/dd1032b9dcd0 - Jim Chen - Bug 864395 - Associate the send perf data setting with telemetry; r=fabrice
3014. # [23:17] <edburns> FWIW, I always correct people who say that Hudson was the first large scale continuous integration server and point to tinderbox.
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3016. # [23:17] <edburns> Also, 29 is really a lot faster.
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3021. # [23:19] <qDot> /whois swilkes
3022. # [23:19] <qDot> Damnit.
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3029. # [23:21] <gaston> jesup: sure will test asap thanks :)
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3033. # [23:22] <jesup> gaston: bonus points if you make fabrice happy and write a patch to disable webrtc tests if we have --disable-webrtc (dom/media/tests/crashtests & mochitests)
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3037. # [23:23] <RyanVM> lol
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3039. # [23:23] <RyanVM> jesup: well played ;)
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3042. # [23:24] <edburns> gavin: Mail sent. Thanks for your help. All the best.
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3045. # [23:25] <glandium> is mdn.mozillademos.org actually part of mdn, or is it a separate thing?
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3048. # [23:27] <RyanVM> man, I'd love to know where the 1.2GB difference in memory usage between my resident and explicit number in about:memory went
3049. # [23:27] <dholbert> glandium, based on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=968367 , it sounds like it stores assets that get used on MDN
3050. # [23:27] <RyanVM> I wish memory reporters worked better on Windows
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3058. # [23:31] <RyanVM> erahm1: about:memory doesn't work as well on Windows because we can't use jemalloc for everything, is that right?
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3065. # [23:33] <erahm1> RyanVM: pretty sure we use jemalloc on windows, I got the impression memory reporting may not be great for win64 b/c we don't have a good way of querying how much memory was allocated for a given pointer.
3066. # [23:34] <Gijs> kip: did you want to actually request approval-mozilla-aurora on your patches for bug 1005405? :)
3067. # [23:34] <RyanVM> erahm1: I thought "WARNING: the 'heap-allocated' memory reporter does not work for this platform and/or configuration. This means that 'heap-unclassified' is not shown and the 'explicit' tree shows less memory than it should. " was on regular Windows builds too
3068. # [23:34] <RyanVM> I thought there were issues where jemalloc fights with the msvc crt's allocator or something to that effect?
3069. # [23:34] * RyanVM is wading into uncertain territory :P
3070. # [23:35] <erahm1> RyanVM: I'll check w/ the memshrink guys, I'm not well versed on our windows limitiations
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3072. # [23:35] <RyanVM> but it's pretty crazy when I can only get a memory report that includes 1/3 of my actual memory usage
3073. # [23:35] <RyanVM> makes it kinda useless
3074. # [23:35] <kip> Gijs: Yes, I think it should be uplifted. I haven't done so before, and am reading the release management wiki to understand the process ;-)
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3076. # [23:38] <@gavin> RyanVM: I haven't heard much from you lately
3077. # [23:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9cecb6a3439 - Randell Jesup - Bug 1002340: Allow gUM fake audio timers to skip if we overrun r=bsmedberg
3078. # [23:38] <Gijs> kip: ah, great! :)
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3080. # [23:38] <@gavin> I'm assuming that means all our oranges are fixed
3081. # [23:38] <RyanVM> gavin: your team is fixing bugs too fast :P
3082. # [23:38] <RyanVM> gavin: seriously though, Joel pinged me today about the etherpad
3083. # [23:38] <RyanVM> I'll try to update it soon
3084. # [23:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/4cce089da9bc - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
3085. # [23:39] <RyanVM> gavin: offhand, the thumbnails ones are the only ones I can think of for still being a PITA
3086. # [23:39] <RyanVM> irving made the add-on manager situation way better than it was
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3089. # [23:40] <RyanVM> erahm1: I think I need to try using Fx in my linux vm for a day to see if I can replicate
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3091. # [23:42] <@gavin> RyanVM: what's the etherpad
3092. # [23:42] <@gavin> I can't find it
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3094. # [23:42] <RyanVM> gavin: https://ateam.etherpad.mozilla.org/worst-intermittent-oranges
3095. # [23:43] <RyanVM> gavin: I was told that link was being sent to you
3096. # [23:43] <RyanVM> gavin: but some of the info on it is a bit outdated
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3098. # [23:43] <@gavin> it may have been sent to me once
3099. # [23:43] <RyanVM> hmm, actually, most of the ones on that list are still valid
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3101. # [23:43] <RyanVM> 807205 definitely is
3102. # [23:43] <RyanVM> 870205 rather
3103. # [23:44] <RyanVM> and 949432 is still blocked on review in the other bug
3104. # [23:44] <RyanVM> i'm also interested to see what impact dao's patch has on any of these
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3119. # [23:52] <RyanVM> gavin: anyway, I'll try get it updated first thing in the morning and will send you a note when I do
3120. # [23:52] <@gavin> RyanVM: sounds good!
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3122. # [23:52] <RyanVM> gavin: otherwise, jmaher's still got a good number of open deps on bug 992911
3123. # [23:54] <kip> Gijs: I have submitted an approval request comment on the patch for Bug 1005405
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3125. # [23:54] <kip> Gijs: Should I do the same for the associated reftest attached to the same bug, or is that implied?
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