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- # [00:10] <NeilAway> CC(T+83369.1) max pause: 356172ms, total time: 356438ms, suspected: 49637, visited: 95336 RCed and 920472 GCed, collected: 1748 RCed and 38768 GCed (40516|53862 waiting for GC)
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- # [00:16] <NeilAway> I'm basically spending 80% of my time in CC :-(
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- # [00:29] * NeilAway wishes there was a "cpu-pressure" event which would throttle all of these "idle" notifications
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- # [00:45] <hwine|afk> FYI trees reopened at 1530PT
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- # [00:47] <NeilAway> great, just when I thought I was getting somewhere, it goes and OOMs on me
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- # [00:51] <KaiRo_away> NeilAway: sounds like fun - but also sounds like a pattern I'd really like to see understood, maybe understanding could reduce some of our OOM issues
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- # [01:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/406b26020077 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1011163 - Remove the border which isn't essential for the test since it caused orange due to focus issues. r=me
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- # [01:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5537f0724a22 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1008908 - Remove assignment since the value isn't used. r=smontagu
- # [01:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/833768f88824 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1009263 - Add nsCheapSets::Clear() method that removes all entries and return it to minimal size in terms of memory use. r=bsmedberg
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- # [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f06a7deabcb9 - Brian Hackett - Bug 1011879 - Fixup code offsets correctly when pushing jump targets in irregexp, r=jandem.
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- # [01:38] <kgrandon> philor: sorry, gaia unit tests should be fixed with latest revert..
- # [01:39] <philor> kgrandon: sweet, someone can open and let it through once someone else claims responsibility for the ICS build bustage :)
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- # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4b51aff4b3c - Josh Aas - Bug 957928: Gecko Media Plugins implementation. No consumers in Gecko yet. r=bent
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- # [02:03] <avih> is it only on my system (windows 9.1, but saw it also on win7), that there's a 'Mozilla' folder with lots of files both in 'AppData/Local' and in 'AppData/Roaming' ?
- # [02:03] <avih> 8.1
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- # [02:04] <@gavin> no
- # [02:05] <@gavin> I think we do some form of that on all platforms
- # [02:05] <@gavin> caches in the "local" folder, "important" data in the "roaming" folder
- # [02:05] <avih> gavin: which is "my" profile, if i wanted to back it up?
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- # [02:05] <@gavin> the important stuff is in Roaming
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- # [02:06] <avih> gavin: so can i completely delete the one on Local on every reboot, for instance?
- # [02:06] <@gavin> Local is for things that shouldn't be saved on a network drive, basically
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- # [02:06] <@gavin> so big things that you don't want to spend time syncing across machines (caches)
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- # [02:07] <@gavin> avih: you could do that and not lose much signifiant, sure (you would need to rebuild caches a lot)
- # [02:07] <avih> gavin: my cache is actually in none of them. i've set it up to a ramdrive
- # [02:07] <@gavin> there are other cache-like things that aren't the network cache
- # [02:07] <avih> and it does clean up on reboot
- # [02:07] <@gavin> like safebrowsing databases
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- # [02:08] <avih> gavin: how useful would you personally consider this separation?
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- # [02:08] <@gavin> large deployment users with network drive quotas consider it very important
- # [02:08] <avih> and not less importantly, is it documented someplace?
- # [02:09] <@gavin> it's not very important for me personally...
- # [02:09] <avih> what if it was a pref option, which by default would not split the profile?
- # [02:09] <@gavin> I don't think that would fly
- # [02:09] <avih> why?
- # [02:09] <@gavin> what are you getting at here? is it bad for perf? :)
- # [02:10] <@gavin> the concept of "local" and "roaming" data is one that all systems have, well-behaved applications use them properly
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- # [02:11] <avih> gavin: not at all. i'm trying to reproduce a bug which relates to the network cache, and i'm completely baffled. i'm using clean profile for it, and it looks like it does use the profile, and at some stage i'm 100% positive i can reproduce it, and then, some time later, it doesn't reproduce anymore. and my STR includes deleting the profile i'm using. it's like it depends on something which is outside firefox, the profile, and the web server
- # [02:11] <avih> (local). like the time of day, or the phase of the moon, or some system state which doesn't clean up when i delete the profile
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- # [02:12] <avih> gavin: and regardless, it's just completely confusing when someone wants to back up the profile.
- # [02:13] <avih> gavin: fwiw, i'm running it with -no-remote -profile path/to/profile
- # [02:14] <@gavin> it's probably more likely dependent on specific timing?
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- # [02:14] <avih> and it does look like it's a new profile when i run firefox. no settings are left, etc. completely new. but the STR sometimes work consistently again and again, and some time later, it just doesn't
- # [02:14] <@gavin> which might be affected by the file system cache etc.
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- # [02:15] <avih> fwiw, it's bug 659736
- # [02:15] <@gavin> I think it quite unlikely that the bug is related to the local/roaming split
- # [02:16] <avih> gavin: probably not, but it's like there's a factor which i'm completely oblivious to, and it changes over time.
- # [02:17] <avih> and i got absolutely no clue what this factor is (the bug has enough unknowns as it is, and once i finally able to reproduce it consistently, and then it just goes away, it's completely fraustrating, but more importantly, really weird
- # [02:18] <avih> so i started looking at the "main" profile dir[s] to see if some files are modified there as well. and then noticed the split (again, i did know of this split), but figured it'd be a good time to understand it
- # [02:19] <avih> seriously, so far the best explanation is that it depends on the time of day...
- # [02:24] <avih> gavin: what % of firefox users use a profile on a network drive? and if i specify on command line -profile ... does it still use dirs outside the profile? for anything at all?
- # [02:25] <avih> (yeah, 2 unrelated questions, the 1st is more out of interest, currently i'm occupied with the 2nd though)
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- # [02:30] <@gavin> avih: 1) I don't know 2) I'm not sure, -profile behavior might be different? but I don't think so
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- # [02:31] <avih> gavin: so you think -profile should also store some files globally?
- # [02:31] <avih> (not sure i understood yout 2 answer)
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- # [02:37] <@gavin> avih: using -profile might mean we don't create a "local" profile folder
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- # [02:37] <@gavin> but I don't know that that's the case
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- # [02:37] <avih> k, thx
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- # [02:40] <philor> well, that took longer than I would have expected
- # [02:40] <philor> josh: bustage
- # [02:40] <josh> philor: working on a backout now
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- # [02:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/661eaeca6dea - Phil Ringnalda - Back out a4b51aff4b3c (bug 957928) for build bustage
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- # [02:49] <philor> pathetic: I pushed at 8:30 this morning, emulator-kk periodic started at 10:30, and it still hasn't managed to build
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- # [02:50] <zzzzz> maybe it got hung out during the maint window today
- # [02:51] <philor> no, it just sucks
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- # [02:51] <zzzzz> k
- # [02:51] <philor> combining a standard 3.5 hour build with a tendency to take 1.5 hours checking out sources with a 4 hour maxtime just doesn't work very well
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- # [02:54] <philor> or maybe I got the story wrong, it might have been found *in* a dumpster
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- # [03:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4845c0d526e8 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1005660: Add an "early freeze" step, to freeze flex items that clearly can't grow (or shrink, if we're shrinking). r=mats
- # [03:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6dc54be863ce - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1011311: Drop no-longer-necessary check on availableFreeSpace's sign, in ResolveFlexibleLengths(). r=mats
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- # [04:21] <dougc> Hi, do the try servers work on the beta and aurora branches? Do they look at the tip of your local tree and patch on this?
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- # [04:24] <hub> dougc: they use your local tree so pushing to try from aurora or beta might push more commits than just yours
- # [04:24] <hub> dougc: but it is okey
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- # [04:35] <dougc> hub: ok, thanks.
- # [04:36] <hub> dougc: there might be trouble with new test that might not work on this branch
- # [04:36] <hub> dougc: keep that in mind
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- # [05:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fda65b2f990a - Josh Aas - Bug 957928: Gecko Media Plugins implementation. No consumers in Gecko yet. r=bent
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- # [05:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/115aeaefd16b - Bas Schouten - Bug 1009590: Deal with non-ui-thread IPDL usage on Windows. r=bent
- # [05:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c157c41d3866 - Bas Schouten - Bug 1009616: Specify async video separately for content-processes. r=nical
- # [05:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62d1670e37d9 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 896896. Use MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx instead of WaitMessage. r=roc
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- # [05:41] <Bas> josh: *grins*
- # [05:42] <josh> Bas: you better not be enjoying my pain! I’ve built this so many time on so many platforms, it’s driving my crazy
- # [05:43] <Bas> josh: I am certainly not... Looks like this'll be easy to fix though, missing include probably.
- # [05:43] <josh> yeah
- # [05:43] <josh> pushing now
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- # [05:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/246aa86a5e0e - Josh Aas - Bustage fix for Gecko Media Plugins landing, bug 957928.
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- # [06:18] <Bas> josh: Sorry Josh, more fails :(
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- # [06:19] <josh> Bas: I don’t see them yet, which OS?
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- # [06:20] <Bas> josh BC3 debug OS X
- # [06:20] <Bas> josh: And Crashtest debug OS X
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- # [06:23] <Bas> josh: (same bug, fwiw)
- # [06:23] <josh> Bas: I see it, thanks
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- # [06:26] <Bas> josh: Why didn't you #ifndef XP_MACOS?
- # [06:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bb98302ae5d - Josh Aas - Bustage fix for Gecko Media Plugins landing, bug 957928.
- # [06:27] <Bas> XP_MACOSX even
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- # [06:27] <josh> Bas: because I’m actually just directly backing out a change from my original patch
- # [06:28] <josh> bent wanted me to try to make that work for every platform but it doesn’t really have anything to do with my patch and I don’t want to mess with it right now
- # [06:28] <Bas> josh: Ah! :)
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- # [06:28] <Bas> josh: That'll teach us to try and roll unrelated hunks into our patches :-)
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- # [08:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2708630b4998 - Bas Schouten - Bug 899785: Switch on OMTC along with Async video on windows. r=BenWa
- # [08:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43a9f1fb84cb - Bas Schouten - Bug 1012198: Allow BasicCompositor to be used on windows. r=BenWa
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- # [09:00] <dougc> gkw: hi was just going ask if it was ok to remove the checkin-needed?
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- # [11:12] <Tomcat|afk> hi
- # [11:12] <Tomcat|afk> anyone has a idea how i get a manifest commit from b2g
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- # [11:17] <NeilAway> avih: note that using -profile forces the cache to be in the same directory, while choosing a named profile splits the cache if the profile folder is in the default location
- # [11:18] <NeilAway> avih: also thunderbird needs the recent bad cert as you can't XHR to a mail server
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- # [11:43] <nthomas|away> Tomcat|afk: if you're asking re bug 1011958, we're pulling git://codeaurora.org/platform/prebuilts/tools. I'm not sure where to get a web view of that
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- # [11:45] <nthomas|away> http://git.mozilla.org/?p=external/caf/platform/prebuilts/tools.git;a=commit;h=7c954195f043a1a06d798fba664e6fc5cdab0909 is the new revision
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- # [11:55] <nthomas|away> to reopen we could see if the b2g guys are willing to pin to the old revision in b2g-manifests
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- # [12:00] <nthomas|away> we're following aosp-new/master at the moment, https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/b2g-manifest/blob/master/emulator.xml#L112 if I found the right manifest
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- # [12:07] <gcp> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32496746/hypocrites3.png
- # [12:09] <Ms2ger> Also, I saw a car with a license plate that said "gcp" earlier, is that yours?
- # [12:10] <gcp> no
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- # [12:10] <gcp> I had BEF earlier
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- # [12:13] <gcp> (and was slightly surprised they'd had it out at all)
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- # [12:14] <evilpie> gcp: interesting is IceCat != IceWeasel?
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- # [12:15] <gcp> it has some add-ons that disable JS
- # [12:15] <evilpie> but allows plugins?!
- # [12:15] <evilpie> that's dumb
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- # [12:15] <gcp> it's not only dumb, it's extremely and utterly hypocritical
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- # [12:16] <gcp> I can't see what calling them out on it further would achieve, sadly, because I'd love to shove this in their face.
- # [12:17] <gcp> I didn't even have to instal Flash btw.
- # [12:17] <gcp> Ubuntu bundles it by default, and Icecat just goes out and picks it up
- # [12:17] <gcp> Togetehr with some divx.com plugin
- # [12:17] <evilpie> are you sure you didn't change anything? I would assume their argument would be that they won't even install the plugin in the first place
- # [12:18] <gcp> evilpie: NEITHER DO WE
- # [12:19] <evilpie> well this was never a rational argument from the beginning ;)
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- # [13:41] <avih> NeilAway: thanks x2 (though i still don't know what else could affect my STRs). would you mind commenting on that post with this info?
- # [13:42] <avih> on that bug*
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- # [13:44] <avih> NeilAway: i don't think thunderbird should rely on recent bad cert. surely it needs to be able to contact the server and re-create the bad cert case directly.
- # [13:44] <avih> recent bad cert is not guaranteed to hold enough data.
- # [13:47] <avih> NeilAway: is this the reason that if the url has a non 443 port, get recent cert always "finds" a cert but for default https port it's not always the case?
- # [13:48] <NeilAway> avih: don't know about that, but the dialog has no idea what sort of server the bad cert came from, it only knows how to do an xhr
- # [13:48] <avih> NeilAway: true. are you 100% sure this exact dialog is also used in thunderbird?
- # [13:49] <NeilAway> avih: the add exception dialog? pretty sure there's only one add exception dialog, yes
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- # [13:51] <avih> NeilAway: the code was clearly designed for https. the fact that recent bad cert might hold residues from non https interactions is a side effect, and probably shouldn't be relied on. it's a cache, and the doc says explicitly that it's expected to be quite small
- # [13:54] <avih> NeilAway: if it was named (and implemented) as getLastUnusableCert. then maybe it would have been more deterministic, _if_ its implementation was 100% solid
- # [13:55] <avih> as is, there could have been several recent bad certs, and the api doesn't imply which of them should be returned, or if a cert should be returned at all (the latter is from the docs, the name does suggest it should return something - and in practice is indeed doesn't always return something)
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- # [15:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae583d40fab9 - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 972201 - Remove the MOZ_B2G_CERTDATA hack. r=briansmith
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- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Huh, I contributed to in-content preferences?
- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Did I back them out?
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- # [16:58] <Ms2ger> "On June 1st, 2014, firebot will shut down."
- # [16:58] <Ms2ger> Wat
- # [17:00] <nigelb> Nooooooooooooo.
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- # [18:17] <NeilAway> hmm, I don't see a bug to replace firebot :s
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- # [18:37] <arnaud_bienner> I have some weird errors when compiling Firefox for Android
- # [18:37] <arnaud_bienner> "AndroidManifest.xml:123: error: Error: String types not allowed (at 'configChanges' with value 'keyboard|keyboardHidden|mcc|mnc|orientation|screenSize|locale|layoutDirection')."
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- # [18:37] <arnaud_bienner> (three times, at 3 different places)
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- # [18:38] <arnaud_bienner> Happened just after a "hg pull -u". Was OK before. I have no local patch applied, so I'm not sure why it's not working...
- # [18:39] <arnaud_bienner> Does anyone has a clue?
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- # [19:17] <ckitching> arnaud_bienner: Random guess: Sometimes leftover stuff from earlier builds can cause problems with the stuff Android generates.
- # [19:17] <ckitching> This can happen, for example, if you push a patch which adds a resource, build, pop the patch, and build.
- # [19:17] <ckitching> The sledgehammer solution to this problem is to clobber.
- # [19:18] <ckitching> Also, which version of the sdk are you using?
- # [19:18] <ckitching> I think the minimum required version recently changed.
- # [19:18] <ckitching> Though I'd've thought the config script ought to shout at you if you have the wrong one...
- # [19:18] <ckitching> Instead of failing confusingly like this...
- # [19:18] <ckitching> (And just for fun paste your mozconfig - you may have forgotten to update the appropriate line in there to use the newer version, even if it is installed)
- # [19:19] <arnaud_bienner> I tried clobber, but this didn't helped :(
- # [19:20] <arnaud_bienner> And I remember updated the SDK recently
- # [19:20] <ckitching> arnaud_bienner: So I think the critical thing there is that you set ac_add_options --with-android-sdk="/opt/android-sdk/platforms/android-17"
- # [19:20] <ckitching> Where it used to be 16.
- # [19:20] <ckitching> (In mozconfig)
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> I have
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> # Add the correct paths here:
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> ac_add_options --with-android-ndk="$HOME/Firefox/android-ndk-r8e"
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> ac_add_options --with-android-sdk="$HOME/Firefox/android-sdk-linux/platforms/android-16"
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> #ac_add_options --with-android-sdk="$HOME/Firefox/adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20131030/sdk/platforms/android-16"
- # [19:21] <ckitching> You also might have more luck asking in #mobile, though on a Sunday at this hour I wouldn't hold your breath.
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> # android options
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> ac_add_options --enable-application=mobile/android
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> ac_add_options --target=arm-linux-androideabi
- # [19:21] * arnaud_bienner was kicked by killer (Stop flooding!)
- # [19:21] <ckitching> Ah. There's your problem.
- # [19:21] <ckitching> *facepalm*
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- # [19:21] <ckitching> So, yes, you found the flooding bot.
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> :)
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> ac_add_options --with-android-sdk="$HOME/Firefox/android-sdk-linux/platforms/android-16"
- # [19:21] <ckitching> arnaud_bienner: There's your problem: You need to change android-16 to android-17
- # [19:21] <arnaud_bienner> ok, thanks a lot :)
- # [19:22] <arnaud_bienner> I will try this :)
- # [19:22] <ckitching> Don't thank me until it works. :P
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- # [19:49] <gaston> woooot for in-content prefs, finally \o/
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- # [20:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/728ad0b94d8d - Honza Bambas - Bug 1012331 - Let CacheFile::PreloadChunks use mPreloadChunkCount instead of prefs, r=michal
- # [20:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7daa795a08e - Honza Bambas - Bug 1012327 - HTTP cache v2: add any missing prefs to all.js, r=michal
- # [20:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1527e6a3c46c - Honza Bambas - Bug 1010783 - Base CacheFileInputStream::Read on ReadSegments - test, r=michal
- # [20:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c660e993c557 - Honza Bambas - Bug 1011150 - HTTP cache v2: reimplement AsyncDoomURI for appcache storage, r=michal
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- # [20:12] <Ms2ger> Always nice to find a "// XXX temporary until I figure out a better solution" dating back to 1999-09-09
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- # [20:23] <nemo> bleh
- # [20:23] <nemo> youtube html5 is being weird again
- # [20:23] <nemo> works *if* I hit ctrl-shift-r on each new vid I watch
- # [20:23] <nemo> otherwise, does not work.
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- # [20:27] <nemo> that must be related to something totally off-channel
- # [20:27] <nemo> since this place is pretty dead
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- # [20:28] <nemo> hm. since no one is working. perfect time to bring up those odd browser inconsistencies again.
- # [20:29] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase375.xhtml and http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase376.xhtml - who do you think is right? firefox or everyone else?
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- # [20:29] <jcranmer|away> Ms2ger: how about a "temporary until NS5" comment?
- # [20:30] <Ms2ger> Sounds like c-c
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- # [20:30] <jcranmer|away> I think it's NS5 at least
- # [20:30] <jcranmer|away> it just says "This will get tweaked to default to true in 5.0
- # [20:33] <jcranmer|away> ah yes, here we go
- # [20:33] <jcranmer|away> http://mxr.mozilla.org/classic/source/lib/mailto/msgsend.cpp#3568
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- # [21:19] <nl> hi guys, i'm currently trying to debug a windows desktop firefox from mozilla-central but i always get the following assert failed http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/public/RootingAPI.h#734
- # [21:19] <nl> do someone know what can be a reason of this issue?
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- # [23:59] * Quits: sicking (sicking@moz-501E5580.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Quit: sicking)
- # Session Close: Mon May 19 00:00:00 2014
The end :)