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42. # [00:48] <tabakd> Can someone help me find a python bug to work on?
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47. # [00:58] <nthomas> try http://www.whatcanidoformozilla.org/#!/progornoprog/proglang/py/firefox
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49. # [01:02] <rawtaz> this is so annoying. for some reason one of my application icons on the home screen in fxos 1.3 disappeared, and i cant get it back. not even if i uninstall and reinstall the app it comes back
50. # [01:03] <rawtaz> the app does however show up in the list of installed apps in the settings, and if i search for the name of it in the home screen
51. # [01:03] <rawtaz> >_<
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61. # [01:18] <NeilAway> bah, regression in tree body frame computed CSS :-(
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64. # [01:20] <tabakd> There are a couple of bugs for "ouija" in mentored bugs. I have ouija running but I have no idea what it does...
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67. # [01:22] <tabakd> oh index.html is where the party happens.
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72. # [01:34] <tabakd> Wow I have no idea what I'm doing. What exactly is tbpl?
73. # [01:35] <mattwoodrow> tabakd: a website that presents all the current data from our continuous integration systems
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84. # [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1eb359cf7ac0 - Mark Hammond - Bug 1013448 (part 1) - add telemetry probe for master-password usage. r=dolske
85. # [01:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0acc877be680 - Mark Hammond - Bug 1013448 (part 2) - add telemetry probes for sync. r=rnewman
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98. # [02:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/564504fcbca5 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 1006576. Set DISABLE_SNAPPING flag on all printing gfxContexts. r=mattwoodrow
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109. # [02:19] <avih> does seamonkey 2.17 use the same platform as firefox 17? else, where can I find the platform version of each seamonkey release?
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121. # [02:43] <ewong> avih: iirc 2.17 is based on Firefox 20.0
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123. # [02:44] <ewong> avih: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Old/2013 and https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases
124. # [02:44] <avih> ewong: hmm.. how can one know? i tried looking at release notes of seamonkey. i did find that sm 2.0 is based on firefox 3.5.4 iirc
125. # [02:44] <avih> but not for later releases
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127. # [02:47] <avih> ewong: i still can't find the platform version of seamonkey releases. i do see that sm 2.14.1 was released 10 days after firefox 17, but that doesn't necessarily mean much https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Old/2012
128. # [02:48] <ewong> avih: oh wait.. you're talking about Gecko right?
129. # [02:48] <avih> yes
130. # [02:49] <avih> i know of a feature which was introduced on firefox 17 (platform 17), and i wanna know which seamonkey version supports it too
131. # [02:49] <ewong> avih: which feature?
132. # [02:49] <avih> dom wheel events
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134. # [02:50] <ewong> avih if it's in gecko 17, then seamonkey 'supports' it, but I'm not sure if it's on by default or if it has a UI for that
135. # [02:50] <avih> i don't need a ui. it's a dom feature
136. # [02:50] <avih> and i don't know which earliest seamonkey version has it too
137. # [02:51] <avih> that's for an addon. i need to know the minimal seamonkey version on which it'll workj
138. # [02:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b112fc2312f9 - Karl Tomlinson - b=1015025 use a consistent reference timestamp for graph time to avoid accumulating drift from rounding to MediaTime r=roc
139. # [02:52] <ewong> avih maybe ask NeilAway
140. # [02:52] <avih> (without trying every version myself), though i will test the version i conclude is the minimal one)
141. # [02:52] <avih> but he's away :p
142. # [02:53] <avih> it sounds like it should be a simple task to find the platform version of seamonkey releases, but it turns out to not be simple.. :/
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144. # [02:56] <avih> i can see that SeaMonkey 2.27 - Based on Gecko 30. but for earlier releases it's not easy to find.
145. # [02:58] <avih> though if sm version is 2.<gecko-version-minus-3>, then it supports both 2.23 == gecko 30, and might also 2.14 = gecko 17. and 2.14 was released very close to firefox 17. i think i'll assume that for now.
146. # [02:58] <avih> 2.27==gecko30
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149. # [03:01] <ewong> my bad
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151. # [03:01] <avih> why? i think you helped me conclude with high enough confidence that it's 2.14 :)
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155. # [03:02] <ewong> avih: it's kinda not believable that I'm braindead not being able to figure that out quickly even after working on SM for so long.
156. # [03:03] <avih> what, the gecko-3 thingy?
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158. # [03:03] <ewong> avih: yeah
159. # [03:04] <avih> from now on you will ;)
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161. # [03:05] <avih> would be easier though if at some stage it'll change to 2.gecko-version, or just to gecko-version like firefox and thunderbird
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163. # [03:06] <avih> though 2.30 looks better. i also don't like the version numbers inflation.
164. # [03:07] <jcranmer> if you want version number fun, try Thunderbird
165. # [03:08] <jcranmer> Thunderbird 2 -> Thunderbird 3 (based on Gecko 1.9.1/Firefox 3.1) -> Thunderbird 3.1 (1.9.2/3.2) -> Thunderbird 5 (kind of gecko 5/Firefox 5, but not really) -> Thunderbird 6+ (6+/6+)
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167. # [03:10] <avih> luckily for me, on 17 it's already stable ;)
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169. # [03:11] <avih> i do have a version of the addon to support old apps, but i'm gonna limit to minimum gecko 17 from now on.
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174. # [03:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28d085d43fa6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1015430 - Fix more XPCOM constructors to clarify whether they should be explicit; r=froydnj
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183. # [03:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7e220ce03aa - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1015012 - Make the VolatileBuffer constructors explicit; r=froydnj
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277. # [05:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ceac4ecc8b04 - Anthony Jones - Bug 1014626 - Fix Windows 64 build break
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286. # [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39c6f33dda9e - Jan Beich - Bug 1014613 followup - Add one more fix for OpenBSD.
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290. # [06:26] <cpearce> is there any easy way to run the C++ pre-process step on a file in the tree?
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293. # [06:27] <sfink> go into the objdir directory where the .o is supposed to be created and run 'make myfile.i'
294. # [06:27] <sfink> and if that doesn't work, grep for your file in the unified_blah files to figure out which one it is, then make unified_blah.i
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297. # [06:28] <cpearce> ok, that did something at least
298. # [06:29] <cpearce> but now I get a different compile error ;)
299. # [06:29] <sfink> well, you have to be holding a prime number of eggs in your left hand when you do it, but I assume you already knew about that part
300. # [06:30] <cpearce> hehe
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342. # [07:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
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359. # [08:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: ping
360. # [08:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
361. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: do you know if we made recent changes to the build system
362. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> that could have caused bug 1015658
363. # [08:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh never midn
364. # [08:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mind
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386. # [08:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/82d105955ff5 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 8 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
387. # [08:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e0335c74fb22 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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404. # [09:01] <doctor> :-\
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412. # [09:03] <doctor> 1 tab open
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465. # [10:00] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: define changes to the build system
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470. # [10:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: oh was more a checkin that caused b2g windows builds to fail
471. # [10:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> backed this now out
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477. # [10:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> markh: ping
478. # [10:06] <markh> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hey
479. # [10:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey markh i wonder about https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=40386202&tree=Fx-Team
480. # [10:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems this is permanent somehow on your push on fx-team
481. # [10:07] <markh> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hrm - yeah, that push is at fault
482. # [10:08] <markh> that patch does indeed cause us to touch those files
483. # [10:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> markh: shall i back this out ?
484. # [10:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok :)
485. # [10:08] <markh> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah, thanks
486. # [10:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok will do :)
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488. # [10:08] * markh has never seen that test before....
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490. # [10:09] <ttaubert> I thought the same
491. # [10:09] <ttaubert> didn't even know we do that
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496. # [10:09] <markh> I've also no idea how to resolve it :)
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500. # [10:10] <ttaubert> :)
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526. # [10:41] <Alessar> Hello. Anybody have knowledge about system events in windows?
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606. # [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d68e34ab4078 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
607. # [12:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c80b51a801ce - Makoto Kato - Bug 889401 - Part 2. Render color glyph using COLR/CPAL. r=jfkthame
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610. # [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f8be55236cb - Makoto Kato - Bug 889401 - Part 1. Add Segoe UI Emoji to fallback font list. r=jfkthame
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618. # [12:17] <@roc> yay!
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620. # [12:18] <Ms2ger> Emoji?
621. # [12:18] <@roc> yes
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732. # [14:13] <TheOne> what exactly does safe-mode besides disabling all add-ons? I have a weird visual scrolling glitch, but only in non-safe-mode
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734. # [14:14] <Gijs> TheOne: disable hardware acceleration.
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738. # [14:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd13d0871449 - Arnaud Bienner - Bug 826185 - Remove now useless method in HTMLInputElement. r=jwatt
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740. # [14:17] <TheOne> Gijs: yeah, that's it...let's see whether there's a bug on file
741. # [14:18] <mstange> TheOne: there is, several even
742. # [14:18] <mstange> TheOne: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1015176
743. # [14:18] <TheOne> yeah, just a matter of finding the right one
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745. # [14:19] <TheOne> mstange: yes, that's it, thx!
746. # [14:20] <mstange> TheOne: you're welcome
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755. # [14:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6c6cea4ac070 - Asaf Romano - Bug 994037 - Translation infobar can be placed in the wrong tab. r=florian
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768. # [14:39] <nical_> rust
769. # [14:39] <nical_> darnit
770. # [14:39] <nical_> wrong window
771. # [14:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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773. # [14:41] <padenot> nical_: traitor
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775. # [14:44] <ttaubert> dart
776. # [14:44] <ttaubert> oops
777. # [14:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: oh hai :)
778. # [14:44] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hi :)
779. # [14:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> do you know if https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=40372634&tree=Mozilla-Beta is from Yoric's patch ?
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782. # [14:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Bug 1008148
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787. # [14:46] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I think not. it's complaining about missing font files for about:accounts but I have no clue why that is permanent?
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790. # [14:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: yeah no idea too
791. # [14:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> maybe i could clobber the tree
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810. # [14:57] <Gijs> In a webidl dictionary, can I enforce a member DOMString to be nonnull/non-undefined ?
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815. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> Gijs, DOMString is non-null; if you want null, you need "DOMString?"
816. # [14:58] <Gijs> Ms2ger: uhm.
817. # [14:58] <Gijs> Ms2ger: DOMString url;
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819. # [14:59] <Ms2ger> Converts null to "null"
820. # [14:59] <Gijs> I'm seeing that not cause an exception if I pass in {url: undefined}
821. # [14:59] <Ms2ger> I didn't say anything about exception
822. # [14:59] <Gijs> Ms2ger: and that to "undefined" ?
823. # [14:59] <Ms2ger> s
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825. # [14:59] <Gijs> Can I make it throw? :)
826. # [14:59] <Ms2ger> I think undefined is equivalent to "not passed" right now
827. # [14:59] <Ms2ger> No
828. # [14:59] <Gijs> that doesn't make sense
829. # [14:59] <Gijs> if I have a non-optional DOMString
830. # [14:59] <Gijs> and I'm setting it to undefined
831. # [15:00] <Gijs> and you're saying that's equivalent to not passed
832. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> It is optional
833. # [15:00] <Gijs> that sounds like arg validation should fail.
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835. # [15:00] <Gijs> How can I make it non-optional? :)
836. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> All keys of a dictionary are optional
837. # [15:00] <Gijs> blergh
838. # [15:00] <Gijs> OK
839. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> If you don't want optional, pass it as an argument
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843. # [15:02] <@smaug> or explicitly check the value
844. # [15:02] <Gijs> hrm
845. # [15:03] <@smaug> in the implementation of the method to which the dictionary is passed
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854. # [15:09] <padenot> BenWa|email: ping
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861. # [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey Ms2ger
862. # [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> do you know how to handle this merge conflict - https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/5247062
863. # [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> its from merge b2g-i to m-c
864. # [15:15] * Ms2ger looks
865. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, which file?
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867. # [15:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981477
868. # [15:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> /layout/reftests/reftest.list
869. # [15:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess if not safe we could also backout 981477 for this merge conflict i guess
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872. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> Hrm
873. # [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> erm layout/xul/reftest/reftest.list that is
874. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Ah
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877. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, take the bottom half, and add == textbox-text-transform.xul textbox-text-transform-ref.xul back to the end
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879. # [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71374e496a2f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1015808 - Fix the compiler warnings about members of AutoFlushICache being unused; r=jandem
880. # [15:19] <smontagu> something changed recently in the build system and broke my work flow
881. # [15:20] <smontagu> if I made a change e.g. somewhere in layout it used to be sufficient to do
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883. # [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: ok will do thanks
884. # [15:20] <smontagu> make -s -C OBJDIR/layout && make -s -C OBJDIR/toolkit/library
885. # [15:20] <smontagu> that no longer works
886. # [15:21] <padenot> smontagu: just do ./mach build binaries, it'll be faster
887. # [15:21] <@smaug> :(
888. # [15:21] <Ms2ger> Np
889. # [15:21] <smontagu> padenot: no way is that faster
890. # [15:21] <padenot> just try
891. # [15:21] <smontagu> by aboug 300%
892. # [15:21] <Ms2ger> smontagu, that's been deprecated for years
893. # [15:21] <@smaug> smontagu: make -j <some number> -C <objdir> binaries
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895. # [15:22] <smontagu> padenot: don't assume I haven't tried :-P
896. # [15:22] <padenot> hehe
897. # [15:22] <padenot> it's like one second overhead here on Linux
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899. # [15:24] <smontagu> hmm
900. # [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a1aec9d0a5b - Jonathan Kew - bug 1015603 part 1 - factor out case transformation from nsCaseTransformTextRunFactory::RebuildTextRun into a separate function. r=roc
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907. # [15:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: does https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/545c35907eff/layout/xul/reftest/reftest.list look ok ?
908. # [15:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or do i need to add that new line thing
909. # [15:28] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Any question?
910. # [15:28] * Yoric saw his nickname mentioned above.
911. # [15:28] <smontagu> Ms2ger: how many years exactly? where was the memo?
912. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, no big deal, I guess
913. # [15:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: oh we had https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Beta&rev=8d180eb195d2
914. # [15:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: but i htink its not your patch and i think its fine now, running since more then the 10 minutes of the bustage
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916. # [15:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok thanks Ms2ger
917. # [15:29] <Yoric> Cool.
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926. # [15:39] <@smaug> grr, this overuse of Promises
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930. # [15:41] * @smaug should just refuse to review tests which use Promises without any reason
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934. # [15:43] <ttaubert> :(
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936. # [15:44] <ttaubert> from my POV it's this hate of Promises without any reason :)
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938. # [15:45] <@smaug> ttaubert: I do hate Promises partially because I don't use them all the time
939. # [15:45] <@smaug> but similar thing happened with yield when it got implemented
940. # [15:46] <@smaug> people started to use it without no reason
941. # [15:46] <Pike> let's yield promises and make things perfect for you ;-)
942. # [15:46] <@smaug> ha
943. # [15:46] <@smaug> yield is worse though
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945. # [15:47] <@smaug> easy to create spaghetti code
946. # [15:47] <ttaubert> yield + promises create quite nice tests actually
947. # [15:47] <ttaubert> async tests that don't look async
948. # [15:48] <ttaubert> much better than the callback hell we had before
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954. # [15:51] <@smaug> I can see use cases for yield and Promise, but I've seen code using both them without any reason - just because of them being hip and cool
955. # [15:51] <@smaug> well, yield is getting a bit old already
956. # [15:52] <Gijs> smaug: can you link to an example?
957. # [15:52] <@smaug> hmm
958. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/77a75db90ff4 - Ben Hearsum - bug 1011489: hamachi device builds submitting bad urls to balrog. r=aki DONTBUILD because it only affects nightly builds.
959. # [15:52] * Gijs isn't really sure how people use promises "without any reason"
960. # [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8f9483319f69 - Ben Hearsum - bug 1015407: nexus 4 builds need to upload mars publicly. r=aki DONTBUILD because it only affects nightly builds
961. # [15:53] <@smaug> trying to recall the bug
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964. # [15:55] <ttaubert> was it me in bug 786347? I'm slowly sneaking Task.jsm etc. into platform tests ;)
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1012. # [16:33] <tssurya> ttaubert:hello
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1015. # [16:34] <ttaubert> tssurya: hi
1016. # [16:34] <tssurya> i am a beginner trying to do my fix bug :)
1017. # [16:34] <tssurya> and i have chosen bug number 855603
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1020. # [16:35] <tssurya> the people in the introduction channel guided me saying that you could help me with this bug
1021. # [16:35] <tssurya> if i have any doubts
1022. # [16:35] * Yoric is innocent.
1023. # [16:36] <Yoric> ttaubert: Review ping, btw.
1024. # [16:36] <tssurya> so i just wanted to ask you if you will have any problem guiding me when i have doubts
1025. # [16:36] <@ehsan> nbp: your push is burning inbound
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1027. # [16:36] <@ehsan> nbp: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=7dc3d59d9ad2
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1029. # [16:39] <nbp> ehsan: hum … I guess gcc evaluates more than other compilers.
1030. # [16:40] <@ehsan> nbp: can you backout please?
1031. # [16:40] <nbp> ehsan: I will fix that in a sec…
1032. # [16:40] <NeilAway> bah, I wish kdiff3 would actually try to find near misses :s
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1035. # [16:42] <NeilAway> smaug: I still don't like people using let to declare globals
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1038. # [16:44] <nbp> ehsan: the incoming patch should fix that.
1039. # [16:44] <nbp> ehsan: otherwise I backout both.
1040. # [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3f2754fcfb8 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1015145 - Replace static_assert by a MOZ_ASSERT. r=red
1041. # [16:44] <@ehsan> nbp: ok I'll close the tree then
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1043. # [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b1f29e6adc69 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 995166 - IonMonkey: Add type policy to MFilterTypeSet, r=jandem a=sylvestre
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1049. # [16:49] <@ehsan> nbp: fwiw it's crazy that gcc just accepts that code! you're static_asserting the value of a pointer, which is not constexpr, so that should not build anywhere ;)
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1056. # [16:52] <nbp> ehsan: cast of primitive types are not constexpr?
1057. # [16:53] <@ehsan> nbp: no, remember, const doesn't really mean constant ;)
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1060. # [16:53] <@ehsan> nbp: so there is nothing to guarantee that the pointer will have the value you expect it (i.e., that nobody changes its value)
1061. # [16:53] <@ehsan> so the static_assert would be meaningless
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1071. # [16:58] <tbsaunde> ehsan: are you sure the compiler isn't free to optimize that constant away?
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1075. # [16:59] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: nope, not sure :)
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1079. # [17:00] <padenot> voilà
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1082. # [17:01] <tbsaunde> ehsan: if that was static constexpr instead of static const I'd say its very much legal as is, as is I'm really unsure, but it probably technically isn't constexpr
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1085. # [17:01] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: it's definitely not constexpr, which is what I was suspecting to be at fault too
1086. # [17:02] <nbp> ehsan: If I backed out the changes, the tree would still be open or we would have closed it anyway?
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1092. # [17:02] <@ehsan> nbp: dunno, we don't have a sheriff around, and we didn't have any test coverage on the last few pushes, so I closed it
1093. # [17:02] <@ehsan> nbp: in general, backouts are always better than fixes ;)
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1096. # [17:03] <nbp> ehsan: ok, I'll keep that in mind for next times.
1097. # [17:03] <@ehsan> cool
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1128. # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b5bdc1aaf378 - Ben Hearsum - bug 1015407: nexus 4 builds need to upload mars publicly. r=aki DONTBUILD because it only affects nightly builds
1129. # [17:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/37cc88af7669 - Ben Hearsum - bug 1011489: hamachi device builds submitting bad urls to balrog. r=aki DONTBUILD because it only affects nightly builds.
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1137. # [17:29] <nbp> ehsan: I think this is greenish-enough to re-open.
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1145. # [17:31] <@ehsan> nbp: is it? we almost have no tests finished
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1149. # [17:33] <nbp> ehsan: I mean the build used to be red, and the reason of the original failure is gone.
1150. # [17:33] <@ehsan> nbp: yes, but we haven't had test runs while the builds were burning
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1192. # [17:49] <BenWa> padenot: pong
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1194. # [17:50] <padenot> BenWa: I have a thread that I would like to register for profiling, but it is created by an other library, and just calls back every now and then in Gecko, is that doable?
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1198. # [17:50] <BenWa> padenot: it doesn’t have a main method?
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1200. # [17:50] <padenot> BenWa: nope
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1204. # [17:51] <BenWa> padenot: Not even a point to deregister?
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1207. # [17:51] <padenot> BenWa: context: it's an audio thread, and we just tell pulseaudio (and similar stuff on other platforms) "start the audio, here is a callback", and the lib starts calling us
1208. # [17:51] <BenWa> The deregister is a problem
1209. # [17:52] <padenot> well, I can tell you a point in time when the thread is about to go away
1210. # [17:52] <BenWa> padenot: The register is just for pseudo stacks mostly
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1212. # [17:52] <padenot> I see
1213. # [17:52] <BenWa> if you just want to use the EHABI unwinds then we don’t need to register it
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1215. # [17:53] <padenot> ha brilliant
1216. # [17:53] <padenot> is that enabled on all platforms?
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1218. # [17:54] <BenWa> no, we need to wire up an API to get a handle to all the threads
1219. # [17:55] <padenot> BenWa: is there a bug on file for that?
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1221. # [17:55] <BenWa> no
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1224. # [17:56] <garvank> If a bug is not resolved, but not currently reproducible, anyone know if we have 'Limbo' state for bugs? Is is just left open?
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1227. # [17:57] <bhearsum> i think it depends on how fussy the component owners are about having open bugs
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1229. # [17:57] <garvank> In limbo, as in, Purgatory.
1230. # [17:57] <BenWa> garvank: After a while we close and ask to reopen if we can reproduce it
1231. # [17:57] <BenWa> where ‘a while’ varies quite a bit
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1233. # [17:57] <bhearsum> sometimes it means "when someone notices it by accident"
1234. # [17:57] <garvank> Yeah, I think it makes sense to close it. It happens again, reopen it.
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1236. # [17:58] <BenWa> padenot: I can’t find a pthread way to get others thread’ thread_t
1237. # [17:58] <BenWa> it probably exist, but I can’t find it
1238. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> garvank, yeah, comment on the bug to say that it no longer reproduces
1239. # [17:59] <padenot> well, I can get a pthread_t (or equivalent for other platforms), in my case
1240. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> garvank, bonus points if you check that you could reproduce when the bug was filed
1241. # [17:59] <padenot> BenWa: but, you mean enumerating threads?
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1245. # [18:00] <garvank> Ms2ger: thanks, will do.
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1248. # [18:01] <BenWa> padenot: Yes: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3475750/posix-api-call-to-list-all-the-pthreads-running-in-a-process
1249. # [18:01] <BenWa> padenot: I guess you could just call profiler_register once but just leak it
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1252. # [18:01] <BenWa> then the profiler will unwind it
1253. # [18:02] <BenWa> not good to check in but fine to test locally
1254. # [18:02] <padenot> ideally, I'd like to check something in, but I'll keep that in mind
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1256. # [18:03] <BenWa> padenot: You’d need a hook to re-register it
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1258. # [18:04] <@ehsan> ok, I reopened inbound, for those who are interested
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1263. # [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/968ebd456927 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1264. # [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/5f53dd1d11fd - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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1271. # [18:10] <peterv> Ms2ger: :-)
1272. # [18:10] <peterv> Ms2ger: thx for the vote of confidence!
1273. # [18:11] <Ms2ger> peterv, should I close while we wait? :)
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1275. # [18:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83a72e0ee2d4 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 1015646 - Add a memory reporter for SVGPathElement's SVGAnimatedPathSegList member. r=njn
1276. # [18:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac5e2c6f4ec0 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 1015780 - Make Moz2D's GetAlignedStride() faster. r=Bas
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1302. # [18:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/219e33b5d773 - Asaf Romano - Fix review comment for the last checkin(Bug 1015629 - Use the shared asynchronous db connection in asyncGetBookmarkIds. r=mak)
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1345. # [19:04] <jwatt> sorry!
1346. # [19:05] * jwatt wishes he hadn't added that last minute assertion now
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1350. # [19:06] * Ms2ger ponders closing until jwatt comes back green
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1353. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> Because we certainly aren't going to spot debug bustage until then...
1354. # [19:06] <jwatt> Ms2ger: possibly not a bad idea given the number of landings
1355. # [19:06] <jwatt> I though this is a bank holiday mondey
1356. # [19:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/faf375548c7d - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014150 - Sync clients and tabs when refreshing Remote Tabs and when Sending Tab to Device. r=rnewman
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1358. # [19:07] <jwatt> shouldn't everyone be away enjoying some time off?
1359. # [19:07] <Ms2ger> jwatt, like you? :)
1360. # [19:07] <jwatt> *cough*
1361. # [19:07] <jwatt> err, well, do as I say, not as I do ;)
1362. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> I see a Belgian, a German, a CTO, ... No idea where kats is
1363. # [19:08] <jwatt> canada usually
1364. # [19:08] <kats> Ms2ger: ?
1365. # [19:08] <kats> oh
1366. # [19:08] <jwatt> kats: isn't it a bank holiday where you are?
1367. # [19:08] <kats> yes, canada
1368. # [19:08] <kats> no bank holiday
1369. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> Canada isn't off
1370. # [19:09] <kats> at least as far as i know
1371. # [19:09] <jwatt> ah
1372. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> Just UK and US, I think
1373. # [19:09] <@ehsan> Canada is working!
1374. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> ehsan, for once? ;)
1375. # [19:09] <jwatt> hehe
1376. # [19:09] <@ehsan> we're not as lazy as the UK
1377. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> I think bhackett is the only person landing who's supposed to be off
1378. # [19:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdf86352fdb6 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 1006957 - WebRTC crash fix r=nical
1379. # [19:10] <jwatt> appart from the people trashing the tree, eh?
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1381. # [19:10] <@ehsan> jwatt: is that a UK "eh" or a Canadian one? ;)
1382. # [19:10] <jwatt> the canadian one ;)
1383. # [19:11] <Ms2ger> Dammit, sotaro beat me to the tree
1384. # [19:11] <@ehsan> jwatt: my apologies for the joke ;)
1385. # [19:11] <hub> Canada is working
1386. # [19:11] * @ehsan is practicing Canadian English
1387. # [19:11] <hub> we had our holiday last week
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1389. # [19:12] <hub> even France is working ;-)
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1393. # [19:13] <padenot> we are, and let me tell you I'm not used it
1394. # [19:13] <padenot> good thing we have thursday off
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1396. # [19:14] <hub> padenot: I was wondering if that was this thursday or last
1397. # [19:14] <hub> then you have June 9 :-)
1398. # [19:14] <hub> Catholic holidays ;-)
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1400. # [19:14] <@ehsan> padenot: that means Friday's off too, right? ;)
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1403. # [19:15] <padenot> for me, certainly
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1405. # [19:16] <padenot> but it costs a PTO
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1409. # [19:17] <hub> padenot: no RTT? ;-)
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1411. # [19:18] <padenot> hub: ha yes indeed, but I tend to put everything in the same bag
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1414. # [19:19] <@ehsan> oh, is today a US holiday too?
1415. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> Yes
1416. # [19:19] <padenot> I think it is
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1419. # [19:19] <@ehsan> oh
1420. # [19:19] <padenot> memorial day or something
1421. # [19:19] <@ehsan> then I better reschedule this meeting
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1423. # [19:20] <@ehsan> crap, tomorrow will be an all day meetings day :(
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1426. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hey, you could be meeting lawyers all day...
1427. # [19:21] <catlee> sounds like fun
1428. # [19:21] <@ehsan> yes, let's call it fun! ;)
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1430. # [19:22] <catlee> #define fun ...
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1432. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> #define small char
1433. # [19:22] <@ehsan> catlee: #define fun abort
1434. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> As the windows headers would put it
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1437. # [19:23] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: speaking of which, how's your patch doing?
1438. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> Ah, my patch
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1440. # [19:23] * Ms2ger needs to do a try push
1441. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> Won't forget it this time :)
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1445. # [19:24] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: fwiw with the fix that I pushed last week, I could finish a b2g desktop build with MSVC2010 locally
1446. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> jwatt, are you starring, btw?
1447. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> ehsan, much appreciated
1448. # [19:25] <@ehsan> :)
1449. # [19:25] <jwatt> Ms2ger: I have been, yeah
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1504. # [20:04] <NeilAway> bah, why doesn't hg pull -u warn you *before* pulling that you have mq patches?
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1509. # [20:05] <padenot> it can
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1516. # [20:09] <mconnor> NeilAway: I tend to just default to --rebase as a reflex because of that :)
1517. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, you can just qpop -a afterwards anyway
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1522. # [20:19] <jwatt> I'm starting to see stars even when I'm not looking at tbpl :/
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1524. # [20:20] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: y u no open tree?
1525. # [20:20] <@ehsan> jwatt: ^
1526. # [20:20] <Ms2ger> Was just looking at that
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1528. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> ehsan, open
1529. # [20:21] <@ehsan> ta
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1536. # [20:24] <avih> markh: hey. in bug 1013448, how appreciated it would be (if at all) if you let the patch land as is and maybe improve it later for non main thread io?
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1541. # [20:26] <@smaug> ttaubert: sorry about not explaining traverse/unlink more clearly
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1546. # [20:28] <avih_> markh: sorry, my irc bouncer decided to die. i didn't see your reply if there was such.
1547. # [20:28] * @smaug forgets occasionally that not everyone thinks about cycle collection graphs on a daily basis
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1557. # [20:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5021d1337fa9 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1013663 - Fix some bad implicit conversion constructors in the JS engine; r=jorendorff,jandem
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1559. # [20:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da30172fbf76 - Geoff Brown - Bug 979921 - Enable several mochitests on Android 2.3; r=dminor
1560. # [20:39] * botond is annoyed because people are pushing to inbound faster than he can "pull --rebase" and "push"
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1562. # [20:40] <bbouvier> botond: hg pull --rebase && hg push
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1566. # [20:41] <@ehsan> botond: even better, do that in a loop ;)
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1574. # [20:50] <kats> is somebody sheriffing?
1575. # [20:50] <kats> there's a lot of unstarred failures still
1576. # [20:50] <kats> i starred some stuff a while ago but there's a lot that i don't know
1577. # [20:52] <davidb> kats, good q, who is our non-US ryan?
1578. # [20:52] <nalexander> davidb: tomcat?
1579. # [20:53] <davidb> hmm yeah
1580. # [20:53] <kats> https://sheriffs.etherpad.mozilla.org/sheriffing-notes
1581. # [20:53] <davidb> late for him
1582. # [20:53] <nalexander> I starred a bunch a moment ago. I'm around today and can close/open on demand.
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1584. # [20:54] <kats> there's at least 133 unstarred on inbound
1585. # [20:54] <kats> at least 142 if i go back a bit more
1586. # [20:55] <davidb> kats, was it jwatt?
1587. # [20:55] <kats> davidb: jwatt was sherriffing earlier
1588. # [20:55] <kats> but he's probably gone now
1589. # [20:56] <davidb> kats, oh, well i mean his push looks... very orange
1590. # [20:56] <jwatt> no, I'm still here
1591. # [20:56] * jwatt does another round of staring
1592. # [20:56] <davidb> oh backed out
1593. # [20:56] <kats> jwatt: thanks
1594. # [20:57] <davidb> seems possible the tree could be okayish after that backout (?)
1595. # [20:58] <kats> davidb: the tree is fine, but stuff needs to be starred
1596. # [20:58] <davidb> ok got it
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1603. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1d03cb36396d - Joe Walker - Bug 1013909 - Make CSS Coverage smarter in its handling of compressed style sheets; r=harth
1604. # [21:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f965b7cef97f - Joe Walker - Bug 1013887 - Make CSS coverage should look nicer; r=harth
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1606. # [21:02] <@smaug> ttaubert: ping
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1610. # [21:07] <NeilAway> mconnor: yeah, I haven't learned to do that yet (but this was a try changeset anyway, so I didn't want to rebase it, although I suppose I could have qref -m'd it into the patch to push)
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1612. # [21:07] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: yeah, but that involves rewriting history which I don't like doing (unless it's "new" history)
1613. # [21:07] <fabrice> reuben: b2g-inbound is burning since https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound&pusher=reuben.morais@gmail.com
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1621. # [21:13] <nbp> fabrice: B2G ICS Emulator Opt, is an Arm or x86 build?
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1623. # [21:13] <rbarnes> question: what do i need to do to get an account on people.mozilla.org?
1624. # [21:14] <fabrice> nbp: arm
1625. # [21:15] <jwatt> hmm, interesting
1626. # [21:15] <jwatt> firefox has stopped scrolling
1627. # [21:15] <jwatt> nice
1628. # [21:15] <nbp> fabrice: were you able to reproduce the bug?
1629. # [21:16] <jwatt> all tabs, all windows
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1631. # [21:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/cbc896965ae0 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 952486 - backout for breaking all device and emulator builds (keeping dom reviewer to land the backout...) r=bz
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1639. # [21:22] <reuben> ugh
1640. # [21:23] <reuben> fabrice: thanks
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1645. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0caadbe1eba - William Lachance - Bug 1016042 - Bump mozdevice to 0.35;r=ahal DONTBUILD
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1659. # [21:36] <dmose> how can I log something from a .jsm that will show up on stdout or stderr in an xpcshell tests?
1660. # [21:38] <dmose> wow, it's actually possible
1661. # [21:38] <dmose> it just uses unusual syntax
1662. # [21:39] <jcranmer> woah, it's a dmose
1663. # [21:39] <dmose> :-)
1664. # [21:39] <jcranmer> dmose: dump(str + '\n')
1665. # [21:39] <dmose> yeah, i wish
1666. # [21:39] <dmose> dump doesn't do it, as far as i can tell
1667. # [21:39] <jcranmer> the newline at the end is critical
1668. # [21:39] <dmose> because there's no DOM in JSMs
1669. # [21:39] <jcranmer> but dump is still defined
1670. # [21:39] <dmose> huh, interesting
1671. # [21:40] <dmose> i guess i didn't include the "/n"
1672. # [21:40] <dmose> however, the thing i did find
1673. # [21:40] <dmose> was the extra special import of Console.jsm:
1674. # [21:40] <dmose> let console = (Cu.import("resource://gre/modules/devtools/Console.jsm", {})).console;
1675. # [21:40] <dmose> console.log("Hello from Firefox code");
1676. # [21:40] <dmose> i had just imported expect Console.log() to work
1677. # [21:40] <jcranmer> gps landed some changes to the xpcshell infrastructure that basically made it swallow dump statements if they aren't on their own new lines
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1679. # [21:40] <dmose> which was too easy
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1682. # [21:40] <dmose> gps!
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1684. # [21:41] <jcranmer> which is really annoying because I used to use dump(str + '\n\n\n\n\n\n\n') to highlight the lines I wanted to see
1685. # [21:41] <jcranmer> and it only gets emitted as a single line nowadays :-(
1686. # [21:41] <dmose> i'm guessing that was unintentional?
1687. # [21:41] <jcranmer> the full intentionality I'm not sure of
1688. # [21:42] <jcranmer> it's all a side-effect of making structured test logs
1689. # [21:42] <dmose> indeed, the \n fixes dump
1690. # [21:42] <dmose> thanks for the tip
1691. # [21:43] <jcranmer> I've done a lot of JSM coding
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1695. # [21:44] <dmose> jcranmer: i assume it's pure wishful thinking to be able to use a JS debugger on xpcshell tests?
1696. # [21:44] <jcranmer> there's a bug on that
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1698. # [21:45] <dmose> ooh
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1700. # [21:45] <jcranmer> the remote debugger makes it feasible
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1702. # [21:45] <jcranmer> I don't know what the technical difficulty is in finishing all the hook-ups
1703. # [21:45] <ahal> jcranmer: dmose: I overheard that it landed already.. have no further intel than that
1704. # [21:46] <dmose> oooh, interesting
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1706. # [21:47] <jcranmer> ahal: bug 809561 is the bug I was thinking of
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1708. # [21:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/18d940c4071a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1709. # [21:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0ae471ec7bb6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1711. # [21:48] <ahal> jcranmer: the extend of my knowledge is:
1712. # [21:48] <ahal> 20:35 gps holy shit - bug 716647 landed \o/
1713. # [21:48] <ahal> 20:35 gps does this mean we can debug xpcshell tests now?!
1714. # [21:49] <jcranmer> ahal: that's a blocking feature, but not necessarily sufficient
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1716. # [21:49] <ahal> ah, ok
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1719. # [21:50] <dmose> i just poked the bug jcranmer mentioned
1720. # [21:51] <dmose> we'll see if anything comes of that
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1727. # [22:00] <dmose> jcranmer: is there an easy way to force an xpcom service to be unloaded in between tests?
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1733. # [22:02] <jcranmer> dmose: each xpcshell test file is a separate process invocation
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1751. # [22:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fa3cb3c36c30 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 977009 - bustage fix, Cu is not defined, rs=firebot
1752. # [22:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9241c829d819 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 1015494 - fix sidebar state at the end of the test, r=mconley
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1754. # [22:15] <dmose> jcranmer: i guess i was hoping to handle this inside one file
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1765. # [22:20] <jcranmer> I don't know if it can be done
1766. # [22:20] <dmose> yeah, i'm not finding anything
1767. # [22:20] <dmose> oh well
1768. # [22:20] <dmose> separate files it is!
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1771. # [22:26] <ahal> there appears to be b2g emulator reftest and mochitest with no sheriffs around
1772. # [22:26] <ahal> *bustage
1773. # [22:27] <ahal> AutomatedTester: ^
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1776. # [22:27] <AutomatedTester> ahal: mind backing it out?
1777. # [22:27] <kats> !seen glandium
1778. # [22:27] <firebot> glandium was last seen 12 hours, 27 minutes ago, saying 'Tomcat|sheriffduty: define changes to the build system' in #developers.
1779. # [22:28] <ahal> AutomatedTester: the b2g emulator reftest stuff has spread to m-c and b-i too
1780. # [22:28] <ahal> I don't know what caused it
1781. # [22:28] <ahal> the mochitest bustage appears separate
1782. # [22:28] <AutomatedTester> hmmm
1783. # [22:29] <AutomatedTester> ahal: I dont have all the trees local atm to help backout
1784. # [22:29] <ahal> the reftest bustage will be tempting to blame on my enable-oop reftest patch.. but it appears unrelated
1785. # [22:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/779f6c203c03 - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 1016079: Remove unused gfxQtPlatform::UseXRender method. r=bjacob
1786. # [22:29] <AutomatedTester> I am going to close the tree for now
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1788. # [22:29] <ahal> I think that's a good call
1789. # [22:29] <kats> ahal: the B2G ICS Emulator Opt failures?
1790. # [22:29] <ahal> kats: yeah
1791. # [22:30] <kats> seems to have started on inbound with cset https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76f83b6745f1 which was a merge from m-c. so it probably was introduced on some other tree
1792. # [22:30] <ahal> kats: I think it was introduced on b-i
1793. # [22:30] <kats> makes sense
1794. # [22:30] <AutomatedTester> ahal: b2g-i, m-c, and m-i?
1795. # [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c9943316eea1 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Backed out changeset 219e33b5d773, ec0d3a478d52 (bug 1015629) for total win8 talos bustage, and some win7, too.
1796. # [22:31] <kats> AutomatedTester: yeah
1797. # [22:32] <ahal> the reftest stuff seems to be from something in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/pushloghtml?startID=7324&endID=7325
1798. # [22:32] <ahal> so maybe it came from fx-team?
1799. # [22:33] <Gijs> AutomatedTester: did you close trees yet?
1800. # [22:33] * Gijs was about to close fx-team for other reasons
1801. # [22:33] <AutomatedTester> Gijs: yup
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1803. # [22:33] <AutomatedTester> Gijs: I didnt close fx-team
1804. # [22:33] <Gijs> OK, then I shall do that still.
1805. # [22:33] <kats> ahal: the m-c range is https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=ca41feb4523e&tochange=545c35907eff
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1807. # [22:34] <mdas> dmose: ping
1808. # [22:34] <AutomatedTester> ahal: I am not really here so if you could be so awesome as to find the issue that would be great :)
1809. # [22:34] <ahal> kats: I can't un-entangle it.. each tree I've looked at started failing on a merge
1810. # [22:35] <kats> ahal: yeah, it's probably a combination of two changesets
1811. # [22:35] <ahal> AutomatedTester: I can try.. but my detective skills are failing me so far
1812. # [22:35] <kats> i'll try as well
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1815. # [22:35] <AutomatedTester> ahal: ok, if need be Tomcat|afk can start on it in the morning
1816. # [22:35] <ahal> kats: I landed a patch that enables reftest oop on friday
1817. # [22:35] <ahal> that could be interacting with something else
1818. # [22:36] <ahal> possibly those tests were added on the weekend or something
1819. # [22:36] <AutomatedTester> ahal: the mochitest one appears to have started on b2g-inbound
1820. # [22:36] <AutomatedTester> my guess is based on the m-c from b-i merge
1821. # [22:36] <ahal> AutomatedTester: ok, thanks for closing the trees!
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1823. # [22:37] <Gijs> (fx-team is now also closed, fwiw)
1824. # [22:37] <kats> ahal: i have the regression ranges from m-c, b-i, and m-i
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1826. # [22:37] <kats> ahal: the culprit changes should be in the intersection of the three
1827. # [22:37] <ahal> I'm guessing combination of tests being added and enabling oop
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1829. # [22:38] <kats> i'm just not sure how to obtain the intersection from pushloghtml pages
1830. # [22:38] <ahal> kats: I'll file a bug so we can put this info somewhere better than irc logs
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1832. # [22:38] <kats> ahal: good call
1833. # [22:39] <rawtaz> hai
1834. # [22:39] <ahal> gah, I really hope that doesn't get backed out again :/
1835. # [22:39] <kats> ahal: might be worth doing a try push with your cset backed out
1836. # [22:40] <ahal> yeah
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1838. # [22:41] <AutomatedTester> ahal: looking at tbpl, b-i is where the problem started
1839. # [22:41] <mcote> rawtaz: heya
1840. # [22:41] <AutomatedTester> and Tomcat|afk has merged it around
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1842. # [22:41] <rawtaz> :)
1843. # [22:41] <ahal> AutomatedTester: for reftest at least the first time it failed is on a merge
1844. # [22:41] <AutomatedTester> ahal: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&pusher=cbook@mozilla.com
1845. # [22:41] <ahal> I think it's an interaction between two changesets
1846. # [22:42] <AutomatedTester> it merged b2g-i -> m-c -> m-i
1847. # [22:43] <ahal> there's also red mochitests and build failures on b-i
1848. # [22:43] <kats> ahal: did you file a bug?
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1850. # [22:44] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
1851. # [22:45] <ahal> kats: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1016081 (didn't know what the title should be)
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1853. # [22:46] <ahal> AutomatedTester: on b-i it didn't start failing until tomcat merged m-c to b-i: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound&rev=5a56f6d4dd63
1854. # [22:47] <ahal> (they didn't run on that push, but the next push is the first time it failed)
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1858. # [22:51] <dmose> mdas: pong
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1860. # [22:52] <mdas> dmose: hey, in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1015471, what does MLP stand for?
1861. # [22:52] <dmose> "Minimum Landable Product"
1862. # [22:52] <dmose> ie the most minimal thing we can land on nightly
1863. # [22:53] <kats> ahal: do you have the trychooser syntax for the failure jobs handy?
1864. # [22:53] <ahal> kats: I'm about to push a disabling of oop to try
1865. # [22:53] <dmose> mdas: the theory is that we'll be bringing the loop code from its current branch onto elm this week
1866. # [22:53] <ahal> but it's -p emulator
1867. # [22:53] <kats> ahal: ok i'll copy it from that
1868. # [22:53] <dmose> mdas: and then landing it in mozilla-central after that
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1870. # [22:53] <mdas> dmose: ah okay thanks
1871. # [22:54] <mdas> dmose: I plan to discuss priority of that bug tomorrow
1872. # [22:54] <mdas> dmose: erm, wednesday
1873. # [22:54] <AutomatedTester> ahal: kats, Gijs: just emailed, and cc'ed you, the sheriffs to look into this if you don't get anywhere
1874. # [22:54] <romaxa> evilpie: pong
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1876. # [22:54] <dmose> mdas: awesome. in some ideal world, it'd be wonderful to get things running this week.
1877. # [22:54] <dmose> mdas: do you have a sense of how much work that bug involves?
1878. # [22:54] <jez> could someone explain to me how i should interpret Mozilla's rendering of a character that can't be rendered in the current font? that box with what are apparently some hex chars in? is there a webpage explaining it somewhere?
1879. # [22:54] <ahal> AutomatedTester: seeing as there are three separate issues by the looks of things.. I think the trees are going to be closed until tomorrow :p
1880. # [22:54] <AutomatedTester> i'm ogg to enjoy the rest of my holiday
1881. # [22:55] <ahal> AutomatedTester: ah, sorry for pulling you away!
1882. # [22:55] <ahal> enjoy!
1883. # [22:55] * KWierso|afk is mp4 to enjoy the holiday...
1884. # [22:55] <mdas> dmose: nope, no one has looked at that in recent memory.
1885. # [22:55] <mdas> so it's unscoped
1886. # [22:55] <gal> kats: ping
1887. # [22:55] <kats> gal: pong
1888. # [22:55] <dmose> mdas: fair enough
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1890. # [22:56] <gal> I landed a patch that had problems before shortly before the tree went up in flames, just back it out if there is any doubt
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1893. # [22:56] <kats> gal: which bug?
1894. # [22:56] <gal> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b6ae4c0a754
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1896. # [22:57] <gal> trying to read my tbpl but unclear whether that was prior bustage
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1899. # [22:58] <ahal> gal: I think you are in the clear
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1901. # [22:58] <gal> thank god
1902. # [22:58] <gal> 3rd time I landed that damn patch
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1904. # [22:58] <@ehsan> 3rd time's a charm
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1906. # [22:59] <@ehsan> kats: are you sheriffing? am I at fault?
1907. # [22:59] <gal> every time I added more asserts and ended up finding more problems elsewhere
1908. # [22:59] <kats> yeah i agree that doesn't seem like a possible cause, it's not in the ranges
1909. # [22:59] <kats> ehsan: i'm not sheriffing, i'm just trying to find the cause of the b2g reftest failures
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1911. # [23:00] <ahal> ehsan: it seems like an interaction between something on inbound/m-c and b-i (likely enabling oop reftest)
1912. # [23:00] * @ehsan is looking at tbpl
1913. # [23:01] <ahal> there also seems to be a high number of debug emulator mochitest crashes.. though I don't know if those are known or not
1914. # [23:01] <@ehsan> so
1915. # [23:01] <@ehsan> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=76f83b6745f1 is the first set of oranges
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1917. # [23:01] <@ehsan> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=d85a5aa53fd2 did not get reftest runs
1918. # [23:01] <ahal> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1016081#c1
1919. # [23:01] <ahal> kats beat you to it
1920. # [23:01] <@ehsan> so if jfkthame's push is ok, then it's a merge issue
1921. # [23:02] <@ehsan> oh god
1922. # [23:02] <@ehsan> good luck to whoever wants to debug that
1923. # [23:02] <@ehsan> in the mean time, we should probably close all trees
1924. # [23:02] <ahal> ehsan: we did :)
1925. # [23:02] <@ehsan> if they are not closed already
1926. # [23:02] <ahal> b-i has a whole bunch of other bustage too
1927. # [23:02] <@ehsan> I'm teaching you guys history it seems ;)
1928. # [23:03] * @ehsan will shut up now
1929. # [23:03] <ahal> this is what happens when the sheriffs get a holiday :p
1930. # [23:03] <Gijs> has anyone tried reproducing failures locally?
1931. # [23:04] <jez> come on... someone here must know how to interpret Gecko's "character glyph not available" thing?
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1935. # [23:09] <Gijs> jez: what do you mean by "interpret" ?
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1940. # [23:19] <jez> Gijs: well is there some way i can look up the unicode chacter description
1941. # [23:19] <jez> based on what Gecko has rendered?
1942. # [23:19] <jez> the fact that it has rendered hex chars would suggest i should be able to link it to a unicode description
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1944. # [23:21] <evilpie> romaxa: it seems like the basic compositor sometimes doesn't composite when I click on just a tab
1945. # [23:21] <evilpie> Moving the mouse in content works
1946. # [23:23] <smontagu> jez: you can look it up somewhere like www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/ffff (substituting the codepoint you have for ffff)
1947. # [23:23] <jez> smontagu: is there a webpage detailing this?
1948. # [23:24] <smontagu> jez: there are many
1949. # [23:24] <jez> like, documenting how Gecko renders chars with no glyph
1950. # [23:24] <jez> can you point me to a good one? i cant seem to find anything
1951. # [23:24] * smontagu is not sure what jez is asking
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1953. # [23:25] <smontagu> I meant there are many webpages about unicode characters
1954. # [23:25] <jez> like how to read the rendered character
1955. # [23:25] <jez> no not just unicode characters, specifically Gecko
1956. # [23:25] <jez> not all browser engines render a little box with hex chars in it
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1958. # [23:26] <smontagu> yes, but what do you want to know apart from what you already said? If there is no font with a glyph for the character, then as you say we render a little box with the Unicode value in hex
1959. # [23:26] <smontagu> what else needs to be said?
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1963. # [23:28] <jez> how to read it
1964. # [23:28] <jez> is it left-to-right, top-to-bottom?
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1966. # [23:28] <jez> is it UTF8?
1967. # [23:28] <smontagu> utf-16
1968. # [23:28] <jez> it would just be nice to have a reference on thuis
1969. # [23:29] <jez> utf-16... i'm sure i've seen ones with only 4 hex chars rendered
1970. # [23:29] <jez> wouldnt that make it utf-8?
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1972. # [23:29] <jez> see how confusing it is
1973. # [23:29] <jez> i'd like a reference page
1974. # [23:29] <jcranmer> you've never seen non-BMP characters though
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1976. # [23:29] <smontagu> no, sorry,
1977. # [23:29] <jcranmer> and it's a feature of the font backend in use, not Gecko
1978. # [23:29] <jcranmer> s/though/then/
1979. # [23:30] <smontagu> not utf-16, utf-32
1980. # [23:30] <jez> jcranmer: feature of the font backend??
1981. # [23:30] <smontagu> but for values less than 10000 only 4 digits are rendered
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1983. # [23:30] <jez> surely it's gecko, it didn't always render little hex digits in a box
1984. # [23:31] <jez> it used to just be an empty box IIRC
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1986. # [23:31] <smontagu> that probably depends on the font-size
1987. # [23:31] <jcranmer> I don't know the exact details of font rendering
1988. # [23:31] <jez> there must be some documentation on this somewhere
1989. # [23:31] <jcranmer> but I'm pretty sure the rendering comes from the backend that actually renders glyphs
1990. # [23:31] <smontagu> it's been hex digits for about the last 8 years
1991. # [23:31] <jcranmer> (is that harfbuzz these days?)
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1993. # [23:32] <jez> so say i have a box with this rendered:
1994. # [23:32] <jez> 01F
1995. # [23:32] <jez> 600
1996. # [23:32] <jez> how do i interpret it
1997. # [23:32] <jcranmer> 01F600
1998. # [23:32] <jcranmer> actually, U+01F600 if you want to be all snobby about it
1999. # [23:32] <jez> ok and from there how do i look it up
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2002. # [23:33] <smontagu> the code is in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/thebes/gfxFontMissingGlyphs.cpp
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2004. # [23:33] <@roc> jez: google "unicode 01f600"
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2006. # [23:33] <jez> with the quotes?
2007. # [23:33] <@roc> no
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2009. # [23:34] <jez> ok seems to be a grinning face
2010. # [23:34] <jez> and i dont seem to have a font that can render it
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2012. # [23:34] <kats> is there a way to bump up the priority of specific try pushes?
2013. # [23:35] <smontagu> jez, if you had gone to where I said in the first place, http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f600/ there is a link to fonts that support the character
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2015. # [23:36] <kats> AutomatedTester: can you update the tree closure message to point to bug 1016081?
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2018. # [23:38] <_AtilA_> roc, ping
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2023. # [23:40] <jez> smontagu: hmm, it says DejaVu Sans supports it.
2024. # [23:41] <jez> when i apply Font-Samily:DejaVu Sans !important to the text in DOMi, it still doesn't render
2025. # [23:41] <jez> and I do have that font installed
2026. # [23:42] <_AtilA_> roc, unping, I just saw you r+ :)
2027. # [23:42] <smontagu> jez: on my system it is rendered in Quivira
2028. # [23:43] <jez> *shrug*
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2031. # [23:43] <smontagu> but DejaVu Sans works for me too
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2033. # [23:44] <jez> so why wouldn't it be working for me?
2034. # [23:44] <smontagu> there may be more than one version of DejaVu Sans
2035. # [23:44] <jez> is it trying to render it in a font that doesnt support it, getting the idea that it cant be rendered, then refusing to render it even when i later change it in DOMi?
2036. # [23:46] <smontagu> I doubt it. Usually we succeed in finding a font that can render the character
2037. # [23:46] <jez> well something weird's happening.
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2039. # [23:47] <jez> how can i try to render this on a test page?
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2041. # [23:47] <jez> &u+01F600; or something?
2042. # [23:47] <smontagu> &#x01f600;
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2045. # [23:49] <jez> ok
2046. # [23:49] <jez> <div style="font-family:DejaVu Sans;">Test rendering of 'grinning face' character U+01F600: &#x01f600;</div>
2047. # [23:49] <jez> that fails to render the character in my browser
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2049. # [23:49] <jez> annoying.
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2056. # [23:52] <smontagu> try installing a more recent font
2057. # [23:52] <smontagu> *version of the font
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2060. # [23:53] <jcranmer> doesn't DejaVu Sans need to be quoted?
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