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# [01:04] <philor> hmm, how did mats break asm.js on armv6?
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# [02:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=afa67a2f7905 - 72 changesets
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# [03:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/cc136bdfeac4 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [03:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/73f738fc3fbe - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [04:20] <odinbran> hello everyone
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# [04:39] <philor> oh, my, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3b9368919def
# [04:40] <philor> doesn't look like aurora is going to enjoy getting merged to beta one little bit
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# [04:51] <odinbran> i literally just got an email about that
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# [06:37] <rnewman> any ircops around: a net-wide ban of SpergyLava would be great, please.
# [06:37] <ashish> sure
# [06:37] <rnewman> thanks
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# [06:37] <efaust> mmmm, I just love the smell of k-line in the morning.
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# [06:40] <capella> ++
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# [06:45] <rnewman> ashish: now Konata1000
# [06:46] <rnewman> ashish: is there a better place to report this kind of thing?
# [06:46] <ashish> rnewman: #it
# [06:46] <rnewman> ta
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# [06:48] <capella> he taunts them in that channel too ... :/ been following the drama for a couple weeks
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# [13:39] <KaiRo> is there a bug alias to ni? on bugs that need sheriffs? Bug 1031697 is about really, really bad crashing on Aurora, we need to back out bug 1013587 ASAP
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# [13:45] * KaiRo found one and ni?ed it
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# [14:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d3d8931517ea - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 7 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [14:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9776b60c4019 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [14:24] <nigelb> KaiRo: sheriffs can back it out?
# [14:25] * nigelb can back it out if needed
# [14:25] <nigelb> I didn't realize I had enough permissions to do that.
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# [14:31] <KaiRo> nigelb: basically, everyone with checkin permission to the repos can, but sheriffs are doing backouts most of the time - or the patch authors
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# [14:32] <KaiRo> if you do it, you of course need to watch the respective tree, aurora in this case, as any breakage the backout might cause is on you :)
# [14:32] * KaiRo unfortunately doesn't have time or he might have taken a look himself, given how bad this is
# [14:33] <jgraham> nigelb *is* a sheriff, right?
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# [14:39] <nigelb> I'm around for the next few hours
# [14:39] <nigelb> I'm happy to back it out.
# [14:39] <nigelb> (and get crucified if I fail :D)
# [14:39] <nigelb> give me a bit to clone aurora. I don't actually have it locally.
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# [14:40] <KaiRo> nigelb: thanks
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# [14:41] <nigelb> KaiRo: Is there a process I need to follow?
# [14:41] <nigelb> change flags on the bug or anything?
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# [14:42] <KaiRo> nigelb: you can mark the crash bug fixed and set status-firefox32 back to affected on the original bug you are backing out, and note the backout changeset in the original bug as well
# [14:43] <nigelb> okay
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# [14:43] <nigelb> I hope I don't make things worse.
# [14:44] <KaiRo> if the last comment on the original bug is true, it's hard to make it worse
# [14:45] <nigelb> KaiRo: I know it's true.
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# [14:45] <nigelb> because my aurora has been crashing so much that I've been using nightly :)
# [14:45] <KaiRo> nigelb: yes, that's the bug
# [14:46] <KaiRo> it may actually be worthwhile to trigger another aurora nightly build once the backout is done and looks "green" (minus intermittent oranges)
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# [14:46] <nigelb> KaiRo: erm, how do I trigger a build?
# [14:47] * nigelb only looks at m-c, m-i, and fx-team on a "normal" day.
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# [14:51] <KaiRo> nigelb: triggering nightly builds should be possible with https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-aurora
# [14:51] <KaiRo> (at the bottom)
# [14:51] <KaiRo> and I hope you know your LDAP password :)
# [14:51] <nigelb> I do :)
# [14:51] <nigelb> well, *I* don't. But lastpass does.
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# [14:52] <KaiRo> though, the display there looks to me like the nightly build for today wouldn't have been done yet, which may mean those will run anyhow
# [14:54] <nigelb> but then, I have to back it out and watch the tree
# [14:54] <nigelb> if it burns other things then.... :)
# [14:54] <KaiRo> hehe, yes
# [14:55] <nigelb> would this need a clobber?
# [14:55] <KaiRo> probably not
# [14:55] <nigelb> on friday I backed out an epic fail, which failed even more because it wasn't clobbered :P
# [14:55] <nigelb> so.. yeah.. about making things worse :D
# [14:56] <KaiRo> I hope everything runs fine, and we'll have "nightly" aurora builds without the crash ASAP, as we shouldn't have users in that state for too long
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# [14:56] <KaiRo> we'll need to look into how this could happen anyhow, as this should never happen if we want web devs to use aurora all the time
# [14:57] <KaiRo> and he's the one who cause all that mayhem
# [14:58] <KaiRo> mayhemer: nigelb is working on backing out bug 1013587 (but first needs to clone aurora)
# [14:58] <nigelb> :)
# [14:58] <nigelb> nice choice of irc nick ;)
# [14:59] <KaiRo> in this case, yes :)
# [14:59] <KaiRo> fun how this "zero risk" uplift patch can cause such huge issues
# [14:59] <mayhemer> KaiRo: you need to back out the depending bug first
# [14:59] <mayhemer> KaiRo: that is the one causing the problems
# [15:00] <nigelb> 1013638?
# [15:00] <mayhemer> Kabaka: 1013638, yes
# [15:00] <mayhemer> KaiRo:
# [15:00] <mayhemer> KaiRo: and the bug is actually in michal novotny's code, not mine ;P
# [15:00] <nigelb> wait, I"m confused.
# [15:00] <nigelb> that bug rode the trains.
# [15:01] <nigelb> preffed off, and then we turned it on causing the craches
# [15:01] <nigelb> *crashes
# [15:01] <nigelb> right?
# [15:02] <nigelb> mayhemer: how come we haven't noticed this bug on nightly?
# [15:03] <mayhemer> nigelb: no idea, and would be good to figure out... maybe there is some other cache2 fix that is currently only on Nightly?
# [15:04] <mayhemer> nigelb: ok... wait... have you also landed the 1013638 on aurora????
# [15:04] <mayhemer> nigelb: they have a clear dependancy and must go together!!
# [15:04] <mayhemer> KaiRo: ^^
# [15:04] <nigelb> that explains this :)
# [15:04] <nigelb> your patch landed without the dep
# [15:04] <nigelb> 1013638 isn't on aurora
# [15:05] <mayhemer> nigelb: funny:))) and who causes mayhem now! :)
# [15:05] <nigelb> lol
# [15:05] <mayhemer> nigelb: must be! both wre a? by me and there is clearly a dep...
# [15:05] <mayhemer> mayhemer: ...oh... sorry... it's not... hmm...... but I was doing that...
# [15:06] <mayhemer> ah! yeah, there is some potentiall problem with that patch, an intermittent test failing
# [15:06] <nigelb> mayhemer: I don't see anyhting in the bug indicating that 1013638 depends on the other one.
# [15:06] <mayhemer> that's why I dropped that a? and forgot to also remove it for the [perf] bug...
# [15:06] <mayhemer> ok, I cause the mayhem here :D
# [15:06] <nigelb> heh
# [15:07] <KaiRo> mayhemer: umm, you dropped the approval request there ;-)
# [15:07] <KaiRo> ah, I see you saw that already
# [15:07] <KaiRo> ok, so we also know *why* this is happening, which is good
# [15:07] <mayhemer> KaiRo: yes, and forgot to drop it for the other bug too... sorry :( ok, please back the [perf] bug out from aurora, it cannot be there alone.
# [15:07] <mayhemer> yes, thanks
# [15:08] * nigelb drums fingers waiting for aurora clone to finish
# [15:08] <KaiRo> mayhemer: yes, as I said, nigelb is working on the backout - and we also should see that we get out a "nightly" aurora build ASAP after we see that the backout is good
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# [15:15] <nigelb> mayhemer: going to push the backout.
# [15:15] <mayhemer> nigelb: thank!
# [15:15] <mayhemer> s
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# [15:16] <nigelb> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/8e6d0f924669
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# [15:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/8e6d0f924669 - Nigel Babu - Backed out changeset 80f77d10896b (bug 1013587) for crashes
# [15:17] <paul> any idea what's the status of SharedWorkers in Gecko? Can't make it work...
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# [15:21] <nigelb> mayhemer: can you change the status of a? in that bug?
# [15:22] <mayhemer> nigelb: which one?
# [15:23] <mayhemer> nigelb: I've dropped a?/+ on both of them
# [15:25] <nigelb> ah cheers, thanks
# [15:25] <nigelb> now to wait :)
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# [15:45] <avih> do firefox crash reports contain a readable stack trace of the crash where possible? if not readable directly, are there existing tools to extract the stack trace of crashes from a report?
# [15:47] <nigelb> avih: KaiRo_away would be your best bet I think.
# [15:47] <avih> a user of a beta version of my addon sent me a crash report, and i can tell the url on which it crashed and few more bits (like which addons are installed, firefox version, etc), but no stack trace. it's possible that he sent me a partial report though
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# [15:48] <avih> i haven't looked at crash reports myself before tiday though, so not sure what to expect of them
# [15:48] <avih> nigelb: thx. will try later.
# [15:48] <heftig> avih: is it on crash-stats.mozilla.com?
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# [15:49] <avih> heftig: didn't look. how do i find out? should there be a hash someplace at the report?
# [15:49] <heftig> avih: a GUID
# [15:49] <nigelb> oh, I assumed you were looking at crash-stats
# [15:49] <heftig> well, UUID
# [15:50] <avih> the text i'm looking at starts with :
# [15:50] <avih> AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166
# [15:50] <avih> AdapterVendorID: 0x8086
# [15:50] <avih> Add-ons: ...
# [15:50] <avih> and ends with:
# [15:50] <avih> This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.
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# [15:50] <heftig> then I guess they just copied the preview from the reporter application
# [15:51] <heftig> if they didn't submit it, that info is lost
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# [15:51] <avih> hmm..
# [15:51] <avih> the only guid/uuid like thingy i see at this text is: ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
# [15:51] <avih> so that's firefox
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# [15:52] <heftig> avih: is there a build id and a date? which add-on are we talking about?
# [15:52] <heftig> well, build id and crash date
# [15:52] <avih> heftig: maybe it'd be a good idea to make the preview text contain some workable data as well? specifically, uuid and some part of the stack trace?
# [15:52] <heftig> avih: I don't think any UUID is assigned before it's submitted
# [15:53] <avih> BuildID: 20140628004001
# [15:53] <avih> CrashTime: 1404033342
# [15:53] <avih> the addon is a yet-unreleased version of smnoothwheel
# [15:53] <avih> which this guy helps testing privately
# [15:53] <avih> SmoothWheel *
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# [15:54] <avih> heftig: so, should i tell him that next time it crashes, submit the report and give me.. what exactly?
# [15:55] <avih> oh, and that's aurora
# [15:56] <avih> i think i could really use a stack trace of the crash...
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# [15:59] <avih> heftig: so what should i instruct him to do next time, and how do i take it from there?
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# [16:01] <heftig> avih: don't know the details on how to locate your own crashdumps
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# [16:02] <heftig> i just did it once before, and I got lucky
# [16:02] <heftig> (with the search)
# [16:03] <avih> heftig: well, let's start with what i should instruct him to do then, and i'll figure out my part of it later then :) i should tell him to submit the report? and then what should he give me to be able to find this specific report?
# [16:03] <avih> if each report has a uuid, where does he get this uuid from?
# [16:03] <nigelb> avih: wait, is it an aurora crash?
# [16:03] <nigelb> and from yesterday/today?
# [16:04] <avih> apparently so
# [16:04] <avih> yes
# [16:04] <avih> nigelb: ^
# [16:04] <nigelb> might be unrelated. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013587
# [16:04] <nigelb> there's an actual aurora bug causing quite a large number of crashes which I've just backed out.
# [16:05] <heftig> avih: what was the extension ID?
# [16:05] <avih> oh.. hmm.. interesting...
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# [16:05] <avih> i was just about to ask honza how's cache v2 doing with the uplifts etc, completely regardless of this addon/crash issue :)
# [16:06] <nigelb> It's been causing "mayhem" ;-)
# [16:06] <avih> and the guy did mention it crashes when he clicks a link... (which was weird considering that the addon doesn't get anywhere near doing anything about links/clicking)
# [16:06] <avih> heh
# [16:07] <avih> how appropriate :)
# [16:08] <heftig> avih: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/search/?build_id=20140628004001&date=%3E%3D2014-06-29+11%3A15%3A42&date=%3C%3D2014-06-29+11%3A15%3A42&adapter_vendor_id=0x8086&adapter_device_id=0x0166&_facets=signature&_columns=date&_columns=signature&_columns=product&_columns=version&_columns=build_id&_columns=platform
# [16:08] <heftig> i did manage to narrow it down to two crashes with the data you've provided; both from the bug nigel mentioned
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# [16:09] <avih> heftig: fwiw, SmoothWheel's ID is {5F590AA2-1221-4113-A6F4-A4BB62414FAC} , but it's only him and me using version 0.46... the public version is at 0.45...
# [16:10] <heftig> i wonder why it's not possible to include the extension id in the search
# [16:10] <heftig> maybe it only supports simple fields
# [16:11] <avih> heftig: oh.. interesting. the trace has netwerk/protocol/http/HttpBaseChannel.cpp at the very top... so it does look like honza's fault :) (cache v2)
# [16:12] <avih> the other details of the report match the text i'm looking at, including platform, etc
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# [16:13] <heftig> avih: neither has smoothwheel installed, though
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# [16:14] <heftig> maybe the date's not right and it's not actually the crashtime that's recorded there, but the server-side submission time
# [16:14] <heftig> maybe try the other fields you have
# [16:15] <avih> hmm..
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# [16:17] <avih> heftig: how can you tell it's not installed? maybe the guid is just a bit mangled? at the text he sent me i can see the suffix of smoothwheel's id: {5F590AA2-1221-4113-A6F4-A4BB62414FAC}
# [16:17] <avih> ermm.. i can see this: A4BB62414FAC
# [16:17] <heftig> avih: the crash reports list the installed extensions
# [16:18] <avih> oh, yes, i see that too now. doesn't include SW
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# [16:20] <avih> heftig: so, when a user has a crash and submits the report, is there a direct link to this online page someplace? like maybe at about:crashes or someplace similar which the user can check?
# [16:20] <nigelb> about:crashes, yes
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# [16:20] <nigelb> If you click on the report, it points you to crash stats.
# [16:21] <avih> all right then. this sounds enough. he can do that. he proves useful and technical so far :) thanks
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# [16:26] <avih> nigelb: heftig: thanks for your help. appreciated :) hopefully it's the cache v2 issue, and if not, next time it'll be easier to follow. cheers :)
# [16:27] <nigelb> I hope you find out the issue if it's not the cache issue! :)
# [16:28] <avih> yeah, me too, though i doubt it's an issue with my code. the symptoms just seems unrelated to it... but yeah, stack trace would go a long way if it is my fault :)
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# [16:34] <heftig> avih: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?product=Firefox&range_value=7&range_unit=days&date=2014-06-29&signature=nsTArray_base%3CnsTArrayFallibleAllocator%2C+nsTArray_CopyWithConstructors%3CJS%3A%3AHeap%3CJSObject*%3E+%3E+%3E%3A%3AIncrementLength%28unsigned+int%29+|+mozilla%3A%3Anet%3A%3AHttpBaseChannel%3A%3AApplyContentConversions%28%29&version=Firefox%3A32.0a2#tab-comments
# [16:34] <heftig> the comments can be amusing, though
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# [16:37] <avih> lol "i was trying to watch porn. god dammit "
# [16:37] <avih> dude knows his priorities :)
# [16:42] <nigelb> hah
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# [16:44] <capella> mmm ... so did the crash mess up his workflow? or his muscle-memory?
# [16:46] <nigelb> "muscle memory"
# [16:46] <nigelb> interesting choice of words.
# [16:46] <nigelb> to be fair, the crash was immediate when watching anything with flash.
# [16:47] <nigelb> (for the record, I was watching YOUTUBE!)
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# [17:52] <nigelb> for those curious, aurora is being built right now with the backout in it.
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# [17:55] <jviereck> what's the best/easiest way to print a nsString for debuggin? I tried |printf("%s\n", aValue.get());|, but that doesn't seem to work :/
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# [18:01] <jviereck> okay, found this one |printf("%s\n", NS_ConvertUTF16toUTF8(aValue).get())|, which works :)
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# [18:29] <@smaug> there is a reason why I have abbreviation 16to8 in my editor
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# [18:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5cc5f26b237e - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 4 changesets (bug 1030446) on suspicion of setting up random patches to break asmjs tests on Android Armv6
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# [19:10] <nigelb> philor: oops, is that why you left the asm.js failures unstarred after your first backout?
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# [19:11] <philor> nigelb: lack of faith was the reason, I still don't know whether or not it was luke either, I'm just guessing wildly about what smells like the result of reading uninitialized memory
# [19:12] <nigelb> philor: yeah, I just read your conversation over in #ateam
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# [19:14] <Ms2ger> philor, btw, I disclaim any opt failures on this push :)
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# [19:16] <philor> mmm, opt, guess he could be being misoptimized, too
# [19:16] <nigelb> how many parts are you patches, Ms2ger? 26?
# [19:16] <Ms2ger> Nah, I'm leaving it at u
# [19:16] <Ms2ger> So 21
# [19:16] <nigelb> :)
# [19:17] <Ms2ger> (I think I've had bugs with more patches, but I don't recall which)
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# [19:21] <philor> yeah, pretty sure you've gotten into doubled letters before
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# [19:23] <nigelb> Dammit, how long does aurora linux take to build :/
# [19:23] <@smaug> about 15mins?
# [19:23] <@smaug> maybe 20
# [19:23] <Ms2ger> Bug 913953 and bug 677079
# [19:23] <nigelb> smaug: I triggered a nightly a long while ago.
# [19:23] <philor> nightly takes more like 185
# [19:24] <nigelb> ahhhhh.
# [19:24] <@smaug> ah, on try or somewhere
# [19:24] <@smaug> I thought locally...
# [19:24] <Ms2ger> nigelb, so, yeah, at best my 3rd most patches :)
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# [19:24] <nigelb> smaug: no, no :)
# [19:25] <nigelb> smaug: not try. I backed out a crash and triggered a new aurora for today.
# [19:25] <nigelb> I thought I'd actually test before I sleep.
# [19:25] <nigelb> But, I suspect, it's unlikely.
# [19:25] <Ms2ger> Looks like that's the only two bugs where I got to a part v
# [19:26] <nigelb> I'll just go to bed and test when I wake up. meh.
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# [19:27] <nigelb> philor: best of luck with the asm failures
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# [19:29] <Ms2ger> Looks like this push also contains my 2000th m-c commit
# [19:30] <jesup> BenWa|email: ping
# [19:31] <till> Ms2ger: congratulations
# [19:31] <jesup> !seen bent
# [19:31] <firebot> bent was last seen 3 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying 'https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5471245' in #jsapi.
# [19:31] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [19:32] <@smaug> Ms2ger: 20000. That is quite a bit
# [19:32] <Ms2ger> smaug, one fewer zero :)
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# [19:33] <jesup> !seen cjones
# [19:33] <firebot> cjones was last seen 68 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 14 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying '* cjones wonders if dhylands wasn't bothering with the glass before ;)' in #b2g.
# [19:33] <@smaug> Ms2ger: oops 2000
# [19:33] <Ms2ger> And a fair number are merges/backouts, I suspect
# [19:33] * @smaug checks user_profile. Ms2ger obviously should spend more time reviewing Gecko code
# [19:34] <Ms2ger> Noooooo
# [19:34] <@smaug> so the plan is to make Ms2ger and ehsan DOM peers
# [19:34] <Ms2ger> I'll become the new sicking :)
# [19:35] <@smaug> This isn't #content. No sarcasm allowed.
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> summary: imported patch 499092-prefix-v2
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> Woops
# [19:36] <Ms2ger> "Implement the mark element. r=jonas+timeless"
# [19:36] * Ms2ger forgot about that
# [19:36] <Ms2ger> "Remove support for the spacer element; r=bzbarsky a=blocking-betaN"
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# [19:43] <till> jesup: firebot doesn't hang out in #research, where cjones has been active much more recently than that
# [19:45] <jesup> Yeah, I was looking who had played with the ipc shmem stuff; seems mostly bent, benwa (maybe) and cjones
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# [19:45] <Ms2ger> Some 200 merges/backouts
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# [19:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90afab231e68 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1028460 - part 2, Implement a mozilla::LogicalSides type that represents a set of logical sides that can be used for the GetLogicalSkipSides() result among other things. r=roc
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# [20:10] <jviereck> is there a way to merge two bugzilla accounts?
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# [20:16] <philor> jviereck: what you do if you still have access to both is file a bug in bugzilla.mozilla.org::Administration from one, and then comment in it from the other one
# [20:16] <philor> what you do to prove they're both yours if you don't have access to both... dunno
# [20:16] <jviereck> philor: thanks! Will do
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# [20:52] <philor> certainly seems like a reasonable reaction
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# [21:13] <KaiRo> avih: FWIW, if the user reports their email with the crashes, they can also log into crash-stats with that email and click the "your crashes" link in the bottom right
# [21:14] <avih> KaiRo: thx. though i think about:crashes link to the latest one would be enough for them and for me. though nice touch with the email. thx
# [21:15] <KaiRo> avih: and if the crash has been submitted, the stack should be obvious on crash-stats, but you need that crash ID from either about:crashes or the "your crashes" list
# [21:15] <avih> KaiRo: yeah, but link from about:crashes is easier to get than an id...
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# [21:16] <KaiRo> avih: we also should be listing the most recent crashes in about:support nowadays
# [21:17] <avih> KaiRo: would that list be different than the one in about:crashes? would any of them (or just the id) be better i some way? or easier for "normal" users to get and send me?
# [21:18] <KaiRo> avih: about:support just has the list of the most recent about:crashes entries - this is mostly because about:support is directly accessible from the help menu and people paste it into support requests :)
# [21:19] <avih> gotcha. so that's indeed as relevant as the others for recent crashes, and also easier to access. good :)
# [21:19] <KaiRo> yup
# [21:21] <philor> khuey: inconveniently (for me), it's somewhere below you, not you
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# [22:41] <paul> bug 1031943
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# [23:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/514314c934ee - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [23:30] <AutomatedTester> anyone ever seen a situation where you have a tab but cant actually access it
# [23:30] <AutomatedTester> it moves to either tab outside it
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