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  8. # [00:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> rnewman: okay
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  10. # [00:02] <rnewman> it's been through the try wringer and local tests, though, so fingers crossed
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  32. # [00:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/999a107ad069 - Andrei Oprea - Bug 1033715 - Add build script to transpile JSX files to JS, r=dmose
  33. # [00:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a3816cd9d6da - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 213c6fbcd833 (bug 972076) for mochitest-1 failures on a CLOSED TREE
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  38. # [00:08] <@khuey> woah fantasai is here
  39. # [00:08] <@khuey> fantasai: how is not work? :)
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  42. # [00:09] * fantasai supposes that answers the question? :)
  43. # [00:09] <kbrosnan> :(
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  45. # [00:10] <fabrice> KWierso|sheriffduty: I don't see how my patch could lead to accessing marketplace.allizom.org
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  47. # [00:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> fabrice: it was passing before your patch, then this: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound&jobname=b2g_ubuntu64_vm%20b2g-inbound%20opt%20test%20mochitest-1
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  59. # [00:19] <fabrice> KWierso|sheriffduty: looks like we hit UTM:SVC TimerManager:notify - notified @mozilla.org/b2g/webapps-update-timer;1
  60. # [00:19] <fabrice> which is unrelated.
  61. # [00:19] <fabrice> anyway, I'll push to try
  62. # [00:20] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso|sheriffduty: fabrice: i bet bug 984274 would fix it for good
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  64. # [00:20] <RyanVM|afk> too bad that's hitting other failures
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  69. # [00:21] <fabrice> RyanVM|afk: yeah we need this one
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  71. # [00:21] <RyanVM|afk> fabrice: i guess we could try the other patch in that bug in the mean time
  72. # [00:22] <RyanVM|afk> the " set it to a super-high value" patch
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  74. # [00:23] <fabrice> RyanVM|afk: yeah
  75. # [00:24] <fabrice> though I don't really understand why it would be better
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  77. # [00:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3d7306c70b1e - Chenxia Liu - Bug 1030113 - Regression: Menu breaks on Firefox 29+ on tablets with hardware menu. r=mfinkle
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  88. # [00:31] <RyanVM|afk> fabrice: I thought it was a difference between the service being loaded but never doing anything vs. not being loaded at all - but I obviously defer to you on that :)
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  91. # [00:32] <fabrice> RyanVM|afk: yep, but I don't see why we absolutely need it to be loaded
  92. # [00:32] <fabrice> anyway, needs more investigation
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  99. # [00:32] <gps> unleash the try floodgates!
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  101. # [00:32] <gps> that was only a nearly 2 hour effective outage
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  106. # [00:33] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: ping?
  107. # [00:34] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: pong
  108. # [00:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: any chance the optimizations from bug 1030985 could cause https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43281523&tree=Mozilla-Inbound ?
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  111. # [00:35] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: no idea, let me read that test file
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  115. # [00:35] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: the optimization pattern matches "arguments.callee", which doesn't seem to be present in test_temporary_storage.js
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  117. # [00:35] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: so i'm going to guess no
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  122. # [00:36] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mshal: ping
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  128. # [00:37] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: more work for you, but feel free to back out to test if you can't find a victim
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  130. # [00:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: the only other guess is mshal
  131. # [00:38] <KWierso|sheriffduty> but that'll take 75 minutes for the test to finish to tell me
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  133. # [00:38] <RyanVM|afk> fabrice: would you object to me trying out the alternate patch on try and pushing it if it works?
  134. # [00:38] <RyanVM|afk> with a leave-open for the real fix, of course
  135. # [00:39] <fabrice> RyanVM|afk: no, please do
  136. # [00:39] <RyanVM|afk> ok
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  145. # [00:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfa782aab36d - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 33082e3bfed9 (bug 1030985) under suspicion of breaking xpcshell tests on a CLOSED TREE
  146. # [00:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99116baeec50 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset a95aada9a565 (bug 978211) under suspicion of breaking xpcshell tests on a CLOSED TREE
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  154. # [00:46] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: backed you and mshal out because I don't want to wait 75 minutes to find out who is at fault :)
  155. # [00:47] <KWierso|sheriffduty> once the results come back, we can reland the one that didn't break it
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  161. # [00:47] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: SGTM
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  175. # [00:52] <@roc> hello!
  176. # [00:53] <karl> are b2g-v2.0 and v2.1 still supported? i saw them marked fixed in a bug but didn't see landing revisions posted
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  181. # [00:54] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: hm, it's android only?
  182. # [00:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: apparently
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  184. # [00:55] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: how are you going to tell which patch causes it if the tests got coalesced?
  185. # [00:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: I retriggered it on the push that got coalesced away
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  187. # [00:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> it's just going to take 50+ minutes for that to finish up
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  191. # [00:56] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: ahh
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  194. # [00:57] <shu> hm how do i run xpcshell tests locally?
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  196. # [00:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XPCOM/Language_bindings/XPConnect/xpcshell
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  198. # [00:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a84c5a1faa1c - David Keeler - bug 1034270 - expose the channel that failed to load to onAboutCertError in browser.js r=felipe
  199. # [00:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd59434cdb02 - David Keeler - bug 1034270 - test adding a certificate exception via about:certerror r=felipe
  200. # [00:58] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: hrm, this might be more current https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Writing_xpcshell-based_unit_tests
  201. # [00:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffc53bd04d49 - David Keeler - bug 940506 - remove nsIRecentBadCerts and implementation r=briansmith
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  203. # [00:58] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
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  210. # [01:04] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: yeah i don't know how my patch might cause that failure
  211. # [01:04] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: maybe it's a transient thing due to the other failure
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  218. # [01:06] <RyanVM|afk> karl: v2.0 = aurora, v2.1 = trunk
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  223. # [01:07] <karl> ah, thanks RyanVM|afk
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  234. # [01:13] <bholley> Mossop: yt?
  235. # [01:13] <Mossop> bholley: Yep
  236. # [01:13] <bholley> Mossop: did |mach jetpack-test| stop working recently?
  237. # [01:13] <bholley> Mossop: I'm running it in two fresh trees and it just gives me:
  238. # [01:13] <bholley> 0:15.47 0 of 0 tests passed.
  239. # [01:13] <bholley> 0:15.47 No tests were run
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  241. # [01:14] <nigelb> <prmomg KWierso|sheriffduty :)
  242. # [01:14] <Mossop> bholley: I haven't tested it recently ... maybe
  243. # [01:14] <nigelb> *morning
  244. # [01:14] <nigelb> Clearly, I need coffee :)
  245. # [01:14] <Mossop> bholley: What happens if you run that command from the addon-sdk/source directory?
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  247. # [01:15] <bholley> Mossop: same behavior
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  249. # [01:15] <Mossop> bholley: I see the same, I'll file a bug and look at it tomorrow
  250. # [01:15] <bholley> Mossop: ok, thanks
  251. # [01:16] <bholley> Mossop: in general, is there a good way to run a specific jetpack test?
  252. # [01:16] <bholley> Mossop: the mach command doesn't do that, so I always just go and delete all of the tests except for the one I want to run
  253. # [01:16] <bholley> super hacky, but I never found a better way
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  256. # [01:18] <Mossop> bholley: "good"? Not exactly. You can go to addon-sdk/source in the srcdir and run something like "bin/cfx -b <path-to-firefox> testpkgs --parseable -f page-mod", the latter is a regular expression match on the name of the test file
  257. # [01:18] <bholley> Mossop: ok, I'll try that. Thanks
  258. # [01:18] <Mossop> bholley: We're in the process of making a plan to improve all this and make it more in line with the other test suites
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  260. # [01:19] <bholley> \o/
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  264. # [01:21] <bholley> Mossop: and while I have your ear - what is the test that tests the addons in test/addons?
  265. # [01:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93e07b92f879 - Mike Hommey - Bug 1034594 - Work around msys silliness breaking the build for some people after bug 1033958. r=gps
  266. # [01:21] <bholley> doing -f privileged-panel doesn't seem to work
  267. # [01:21] <bholley> and indeed, there doesn't seem to be a test inside of there
  268. # [01:21] <bholley> but I don't see any other test that explicitly loads privileged-panel
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  273. # [01:22] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: looks like it was you: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=Android%202.3%20Armv6%20Emulator%20mozilla-inbound%20opt%20test%20xpcshell-1
  274. # [01:22] <bholley> oh I see
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  280. # [01:24] <Mossop> bholley: Oh, replace testpkgs with testaddons
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  282. # [01:24] <bholley> Mossop: yep, that did it. Thanks :-)
  283. # [01:25] <Mossop> Which I guess isn't in a mach yet. Another bug to file!
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  285. # [01:26] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3974df6a17f1 - Sushil Chauhan - Bug 1027343 - Geometry change flag needs to be set for modified layer tree. r=mattwoodrow
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  293. # [01:31] <yupitsme> Any git users on? I'm trying to figure out if there's an easy way to integrate Bugzilla attachments into a git repo.
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  295. # [01:32] <yupitsme> wrong channel
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  297. # [01:34] <nalexander> yupitsme: lots. Try the `moz-git-tools`:
  298. # [01:34] <nalexander> yupitsme: https://github.com/mozilla/moz-git-tools
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  302. # [01:37] <yupitsme> nalexander: thanks!
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  309. # [01:43] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: hmm
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  316. # [01:47] <shu> does anyone know how to run the ARMv6 emulator xpcshell tests? i'm trying to find stuff on MDN to no avail
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  344. # [02:05] <fitzgen> mcomella: maybe ask bz_away?
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  346. # [02:05] <mcomella> ty
  347. # [02:05] <mcomella> bz_away: ^
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  394. # [02:41] <WeirdAl> hi all, I'm wondering about FF31 ESR. The release repo hasn't had any changes for two weeks...
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  396. # [02:42] <WeirdAl> should it be updated a little more often than that?
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  398. # [02:44] <RyanVM|afk> WeirdAl: mozilla-beta = 31
  399. # [02:45] <RyanVM|afk> esr31 is only there so releng get staging stuff out of the way now
  400. # [02:45] <RyanVM|afk> and make their lives easier on merge day
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  404. # [02:49] <WeirdAl> ah
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  406. # [02:52] <RyanVM|afk> WeirdAl: but yeah, it's pretty normal to get an early copy of a new repo set up a couple weeks before merge day so that the supporting infra is all ready to go when the time comes
  407. # [02:52] <RyanVM|afk> same is done for the b2g release branches
  408. # [02:52] <RyanVM|afk> (actually, i'm sorta-surprised b2g32_v2_0 isn't around yet)
  409. # [02:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/975da37bd55f - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 1033159 - Only run maintenance service tests on x86 until x64 binaries are signed. r=rstrong
  410. # [02:53] <RyanVM|afk> bbondy: kaaaaaahhhhhhhhn
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  412. # [02:53] <bbondy> now I can't tell if you generally don't like my push or not :)
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  414. # [02:54] <RyanVM|afk> bbondy: nah, just laughing that khanacademy.org shows when you sign in
  415. # [02:54] <bbondy> :)
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  418. # [02:55] <asobolev> Can anyone answer a couple of questions on docshell/base/nsDSURIContentListener.cpp ? Or, at least, name some people to ask
  419. # [02:55] <tbsaunde> asobolev: your better off asking and finding out
  420. # [02:56] <fabrice> asobolev: look at the blame ;)
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  429. # [03:01] <asobolev> Well, my questions is more about design than a particular implementation
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  436. # [03:04] <asobolev> It seems like while decoding a multipart request nsMultiPartRequest calls (indirectly) nsDSURIContentListener::DoContent which, in turn, calls nsDocShell::CreateContentViewer effectively creating new viewer for content.
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  445. # [03:06] <asobolev> The problem is that DoContent is called multiple times during decoding, which results in recreating content viewer on each multipart chunk
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  452. # [03:13] <asobolev> That's what I was afraid of: I asked and got nothing but silence in response
  453. # [03:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d94612eb6fb - William Chen - Bug 1032654 - Remove invalid assertion from HTML parser. r=smaug
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  457. # [03:16] <RyanVM|afk> asobolev: to be fair, it's pretty crappy time of day to be asking
  458. # [03:16] <RyanVM|afk> since you've already completely missed US work hours and Europe's asleep
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  463. # [03:17] <asobolev> Hmm, that makes sense
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  494. # [03:34] <jcranmer> huh
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  496. # [03:35] <jcranmer> I just realized something
  497. # [03:35] <jcranmer> we might be suffering from a subtle violation of C++ ODR
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  503. # [03:36] <jcranmer> which would manifest as mismatched allocators
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  505. # [03:37] <asobolev> How do I kill firefox which is running via ./mach run? kill -9 won't help
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  511. # [03:38] <asobolev> And, I think, killing mach via ctrl+v won't help, as well
  512. # [03:40] <tbsaunde> asobolev: huh, how does kill not work?
  513. # [03:40] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: for what?
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  516. # [03:41] <asobolev> tbsaunde:
  517. # [03:41] <asobolev> $ ps aux | grep 1219
  518. # [03:41] <jcranmer> well, the worst offender would be someone who's not in the tree yet
  519. # [03:41] <asobolev> shows me firefox (1219 is his pid)
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  522. # [03:41] <asobolev> then I do $ sudo kill -9 1219
  523. # [03:42] <jcranmer> nsAutoPtr<int>::~nsAutoPtr() presumably contains a { delete mFoo; }
  524. # [03:42] <asobolev> And then l$ ps aux | grep 1219 still shows me firefox
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  529. # [03:42] <jcranmer> but we also define different global operator delete for mozalloc
  530. # [03:43] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: why is that delete different from any other call to delete in the tree?
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  532. # [03:44] <tbsaunde> and different global operator delete from what exactly?
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  534. # [03:44] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: it's inside a templ definition
  535. # [03:44] <jcranmer> which meas it is subjected to ODR
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  542. # [03:46] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I guess I'm not remember the right part of ODR then
  543. # [03:46] <jcranmer> it's effectively calling a different function if you include mozalloc.h
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  546. # [03:47] <jcranmer> now, granted, I think most of our tree transitively calls mozalloc.h
  547. # [03:47] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: compared to if you don't include mozalloc.h? yeah that makes sense
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  549. # [03:47] <tbsaunde> but yeah I supect in practice that's included everywhere so its a non issue
  550. # [03:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2fd971f1a91b - Brian Smith - Bug 1035470: Use signature algorithm OID instead of digest algorithm OID in the signature field of certificates in mozilla::pkix tests, r=cviecco
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  568. # [04:02] <jcranmer> oh, I am so getting a try high score this week
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  581. # [04:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6c82c9d6b8c - William Chen - Bug 1000199 - Enable web components for certified apps. r=gabor,smaug
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  589. # [04:12] <@bz> Can someone help me out with a Promise.jsm issue?
  590. # [04:13] <Unfocused> bz: maybe!
  591. # [04:13] <@bz> So I'm looking at Promise-backend.js
  592. # [04:14] <Unfocused> i'm so sorry
  593. # [04:14] <@bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/modules/Promise-backend.js#872
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  595. # [04:14] <@bz> It seems to only report _some_ exceptions?
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  598. # [04:14] <@bz> I'm also looking at a try run like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43292919&tree=Try&full=1#error1
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  600. # [04:14] <@bz> where I assume my problem is that the security error became a TypeError
  601. # [04:15] <@bz> and while Promise-backend.js reports TypeErrors it doesn't report SecurityErrors?
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  603. # [04:15] <@bz> But also, it's giving me stuff like this:
  604. # [04:15] <@bz> 16:50:48 INFO - A coding exception was thrown and uncaught in a Task.
  605. # [04:15] <@bz> 16:50:48 INFO - Full message: TypeError: Permission to call 'href' getter denied.
  606. # [04:15] <@bz> 16:50:48 INFO - Full stack: Handler.prototype.process@resource://gre/modules/Promise.jsm -> resource://gre/modules/Promise-backend.js:866:23
  607. # [04:15] <@bz> 16:50:48 INFO - this.PromiseWalker.walkerLoop@resource://gre/modules/Promise.jsm -> resource://gre/modules/Promise-backend.js:745:7
  608. # [04:15] <@bz> that's not much of a stack....
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  611. # [04:16] <Unfocused> no idea about the reasoning behind filtering the exceptions :\
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  613. # [04:16] <@bz> Needless to say, I can't reproduce this when running locally...
  614. # [04:17] <Unfocused> as for the stack.... promises mess with the stack :\ it's a known issue. though, admitedly, i thought that was solved
  615. # [04:17] <@bz> Messing with the stack is fine
  616. # [04:17] <@bz> I would have expected the exception it's _catching_ to have a useful stack, though....
  617. # [04:17] <Unfocused> oh, hm, yea
  618. # [04:18] <@bz> Also, looking at the log
  619. # [04:18] <@bz> there are three different stacks
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  621. # [04:18] <@bz> But only one of them is a TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL?
  622. # [04:19] <Unfocused> i think you want to try to catch Paolo, he's familiar with the details of that implementation of promises
  623. # [04:19] * @bz is so tempted to just hack this file up and ask for Paolo's review
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  801. # [06:13] <nigelb|sheriffduty> philor: I'm taking to nthomas about that in #releng
  802. # [06:13] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Or rather, just started talking about it
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  834. # [06:30] <nigelb|sheriffduty> philor: when the bug says webrtc log spew
  835. # [06:30] <nigelb|sheriffduty> do I actually search for webrtc in the logs?
  836. # [06:31] <nigelb|sheriffduty> or is there a different word?
  837. # [06:31] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Oh. I could just look at the bug.
  838. # [06:31] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Right.
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  841. # [06:32] <philor> that might work, not that I've ever looked at whether I'm starring the right things in that bug
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  846. # [06:34] <nigelb|sheriffduty> I don't know if it's the right bug or not, looking at the bug didn't help much.
  847. # [06:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/92411b3dc302 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  907. # [07:10] * @njn cannot work out why sizeof(AtomImpl) is 40 on 64-bit
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  912. # [07:11] <@njn> I'm struggling to account for more than 20 of that 40
  913. # [07:11] <@njn> mLength is 4 bytes
  914. # [07:11] <@njn> mHash is 4 bytes
  915. # [07:11] <@njn> mString is 8 bytes
  916. # [07:11] <@njn> mRefCnt is 4 bytes
  917. # [07:12] <@dbaron> njn, !DEBUG ?
  918. # [07:12] <@dbaron> vtable pointer is 8 bytes
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  921. # [07:13] <jesup> is there an inbound->m-c uplift likely to happen before nightly gets kicked off?
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  924. # [07:13] <heycam> disk full
  925. # [07:13] <heycam> sigh
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  927. # [07:13] <glandium> heycam: b-linux64-ix-0004?
  928. # [07:14] <heycam> glandium, no, on my machine :)
  929. # [07:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4716807bc66b - Chris Peterson - Bug 1031982 - Cast away -Wsign-compare warning in XML parser. r=peterv
  930. # [07:14] <nigelb|sheriffduty> oh :)
  931. # [07:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71b8c5cdcf54 - Chris Peterson - Bug 1035607 - Remove unused empty_null to fix -Wunused warning-as-error in security/pkix. r=briansmith
  932. # [07:14] <nigelb|sheriffduty> I was going to say there's a known bug.
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  934. # [07:14] <nigelb|sheriffduty> heycam: SSD?
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  936. # [07:14] <heycam> nigelb|sheriffduty, yeah, too much stuff on the smallish SSD, gotta move more to my slow disk :/
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  940. # [07:15] <nigelb|sheriffduty> My ssd is 64 GB and nearly full. I need to move it too :(
  941. # [07:15] <@dbaron> I ended up with most of my b2g trees on hard disks
  942. # [07:15] <@dbaron> and after switching phone, this includes the one for the phone I actually use
  943. # [07:15] <@njn> dbaron: with vtable pointer I'm up to 28, but still not 40
  944. # [07:15] <heycam> my SSD is actually 500GB, but I split up a few OS installations over it
  945. # [07:15] <heycam> maybe that was a mistake
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  949. # [07:16] <@dbaron> njn, in DEBUG I'd see 36 for the nsAutoOwningThread
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  951. # [07:17] <@dbaron> njn, and perhaps with a hole after the refcount
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  953. # [07:17] <@dbaron> njn, which would make 40
  954. # [07:17] <@dbaron> njn, are you somehow looking at debug by mistake?
  955. # [07:17] <glandium> dbaron: even without a hole, 8-bytes alignment makes sizeof 8-bytes aligned
  956. # [07:17] <@dbaron> glandium, ah, true
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  959. # [07:18] <@njn> dbaron: it's a non-DEBUG build
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  963. # [07:20] <@njn> oh, mRefCnt is uintptr_t, and thus 8 bytes
  964. # [07:20] <@njn> so that gets me to 32
  965. # [07:20] * @njn wonders why MozRefCountType is uintptr_t
  966. # [07:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1809ebbd88cf - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 3 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  969. # [07:21] <glandium> njn: because it was changed
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  972. # [07:22] <glandium> njn: bug 798158
  973. # [07:22] <@njn> glandium: I'm not authorized to view that bug
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  977. # [07:26] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/5944f23a2178 - Fabrice Desré - backout a6ae40c60e77 for build failures
  978. # [07:26] <glandium> dbaron, njn: the nsAutoOwningThread is here on non-debug builds too
  979. # [07:27] <@dbaron> glandium, njn, oh, #if (defined(DEBUG) || (defined(NIGHTLY_BUILD) && !defined(MOZ_PROFILING))) && !
  980. # [07:27] <@dbaron> defined(XPCOM_GLUE_AVOID_NSPR)
  981. # [07:27] <glandium> because defined(NIGHTLY_BUILD) && !defined(MOZ_PROFILING)
  982. # [07:27] <@njn> dbaron: yeah, I'm looking suspiciously at that
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  987. # [07:35] <nigelb|sheriffduty> oh dear
  988. # [07:35] <nigelb|sheriffduty> statis analysis is on infinite loop
  989. # [07:35] <nigelb|sheriffduty> sfink: ^
  990. # [07:36] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Oh, just the same machine.
  991. # [07:37] <@njn> dbaron: yeah, NIGHTLY_BUILD is true. Hmph.
  992. # [07:38] <fabrice1> hm... I wonder what's happening in the windows build errors here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound&rev=a6ae40c60e77
  993. # [07:39] <nigelb|sheriffduty> oh hell
  994. # [07:39] <glandium> nigelb|sheriffduty: can i land 1035087 on m-c to unbust c-c?
  995. # [07:40] <glandium> nigelb|sheriffduty: it's on inbound already, but i don't feel like waiting for a merge (which, btw, would break c-c because of bug 1028588)
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  997. # [07:40] * nigelb|sheriffduty looks at bug
  998. # [07:41] <nigelb|sheriffduty> fabrice1: does the first broken build look like it does anything related?
  999. # [07:41] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Not sure how b2g can fail with build errors :\
  1000. # [07:41] <glandium> fabrice1: smells like a #define in some windows headers
  1001. # [07:41] <nigelb|sheriffduty> glandium: yeah, sounds okay.
  1002. # [07:41] <glandium> nigelb|sheriffduty: thanks
  1003. # [07:42] <fabrice1> nigelb|sheriffduty: nope, the patch doesn't touch this file
  1004. # [07:42] <nigelb|sheriffduty> I'm goign to close b-i anyway
  1005. # [07:42] <glandium> fabrice1: does it touch a header that is directly or indirectly included from that file?
  1006. # [07:43] <glandium> fabrice1: plus, you have a non-unified bustage
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  1009. # [07:44] <fabrice1> glandium: yes it does, nsContentPermissionHelper.h
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  1012. # [07:45] <glandium> fabrice1: then i guess one of the header that you added to nsContentPermissionHelper.h includes some windows header
  1013. # [07:45] <nigelb|sheriffduty> fabrice1: ah, you've landed a backout.
  1014. # [07:45] <fabrice1> glandium: the non-unified is the linux debug?
  1015. # [07:45] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Shouldn't have closed. gah.
  1016. # [07:45] <glandium> fabrice1: yes
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  1018. # [07:46] <fabrice1> glandium: ok, this one should be easy
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  1020. # [07:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c45f6e6d6005 - Mike Hommey - Bug 1035087 - Avoid recursing some "binaries" targets when recursing for "libs". r=gps,a=nigelb
  1021. # [07:47] <nigelb|sheriffduty> (I didn't think that would mean I'd go into a= ^_^)
  1022. # [07:48] <glandium> nigelb|sheriffduty: m-c is approval-only, you're a sheriff, right? ;)
  1023. # [07:48] <nigelb|sheriffduty> fabrice1: reopened b-i, I've stopped the static analysis build that's been in retry loop. known issue with slave.
  1024. # [07:48] <glandium> pulsebot: status m-c
  1025. # [07:48] <pulsebot> glandium: mozilla-central is APPROVAL REQUIRED
  1026. # [07:48] <nigelb|sheriffduty> :)
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  1028. # [07:52] <nigelb|sheriffduty> why can't I do anything right.
  1029. # [07:52] <nigelb|sheriffduty> I canceled the static analysis build job right when it got a better box to run on
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  1033. # [07:59] <glandium> fabrice1: in fact, just read the comment a few lines after the includes you added in nsContentPermissionHelper.h
  1034. # [07:59] <glandium> fabrice1: which specifically talks about PermissionMessageUtils.h
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  1037. # [08:01] <fabrice1> glandium: ha... so why did I include it in the first place :P
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  1046. # [08:03] <@bz> How come my 7/2 nightly claims to be up to date?
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  1061. # [08:14] <Callek> bz: nthomas or someone else in #releng may be able to help answer that better
  1062. # [08:15] * Callek is both overtired right now and knows little about the "Balrog" update system taht we use now, so I'm not the most qualified atm to help identify that cause
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  1074. # [08:26] <glandium> bz: is it really a nightly?
  1075. # [08:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: bug 1034594 is ready for checkin right ?
  1076. # [08:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> like has review :)
  1077. # [08:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> (if so i can land it with other checkin needed ones)
  1078. # [08:29] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it's on m-i already, i just forgot to add the checkin to the bug
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  1080. # [08:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: ah cool (and thanks)
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  1082. # [08:34] <@bz> glandium: Claims to be
  1083. # [08:34] <@bz> glandium: but also claimed to be on the "default" update channel?
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  1091. # [08:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c4f860f8697 - Mark Banner - Bug 1032017 Remove MOZ_SERVICES_FXACCOUNTS flags as it is no longer necessary. Also fixes test_hawkrequest.js failures in m-c. r=glandium
  1092. # [08:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a42840638d09 - Magnus Melin - Bug 984194 Disable test_encoding.js for Thunderbird to avoid perma-orange, bug 1012917 will fix this fully. r=jduell
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  1096. # [08:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bd471aa96406 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  1106. # [08:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e4c5924266b9 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1033836 - Rename services-common to services/common; rs=rnewman
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  1109. # [08:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b80294339e06 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1033836 - Convert TESTING_JS_MODULES to moz.build; r=glandium
  1110. # [08:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d5d2905c8a94 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1033836 - Remove Makefile.in support for TESTING_JS_MODULES; r=glandium
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  1125. # [09:05] <glandium> i wish someone landed a bustage on m-i (at least on linux64 opt)
  1126. # [09:06] <glandium> yeah, weird thing to wish for
  1127. # [09:06] <glandium> sadly, that hasn't happened in the past few days
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  1132. # [09:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> talkin of bustage
  1133. # [09:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Standard8: bustage on inbound
  1134. # [09:10] <Standard8> bah
  1135. # [09:10] <Standard8> looking
  1136. # [09:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> the 2nd patch i guess in that cset
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  1138. # [09:10] <Standard8> yeah, gimme a minute or two
  1139. # [09:10] <Standard8> `FxAccountsUIGlue.jsHelperAppDialog.js'
  1140. # [09:10] <Standard8> looks like a typo
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  1143. # [09:11] <Standard8> which is weird, as I'd tested this on try
  1144. # [09:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Standard8: do you want to fix ?
  1145. # [09:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d920d7de29f6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  1146. # [09:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b29c2cc4a443 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  1147. # [09:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> closed inbound so feel free to fix
  1148. # [09:11] <glandium> Standard8: missing colon
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  1150. # [09:11] <Standard8> glandium: ah, commas?
  1151. # [09:11] <glandium> Standard8: eh, yeah, commas ; in two places https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/diff/1c4f860f8697/b2g/components/moz.build
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  1153. # [09:13] <glandium> how did i miss that during review?
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  1155. # [09:13] <Standard8> I'm sure I put it through try
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  1157. # [09:13] <glandium> Standard8: then you didn't land what you pushed to try
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  1159. # [09:14] <heycam> firefox crashed and then session restore didn't work when I restarted :(
  1160. # [09:14] <heycam> that hasn't happened for a while
  1161. # [09:14] <Standard8> possible, but unlikely with the process I normally use
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  1163. # [09:14] <glandium> Standard8: well, the fact is the commas aren't there
  1164. # [09:14] <Standard8> yeah
  1165. # [09:14] <Standard8> I'm adding them
  1166. # [09:15] <heycam> actually, session restore might've restored an older tab state. not sure. at least one of my windows with a dozen tbpl tabs is gone.
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  1168. # [09:15] <Standard8> glandium: Tomcat|sheriffduty: fix pushed
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  1170. # [09:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/721560134f54 - Mark Banner - Fix b2g bustage from Bug 1032017, add missing commas. rs=bustage fix for CLOSED TREE
  1171. # [09:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Standard8: thx
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  1173. # [09:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> inbound reopen
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  1176. # [09:18] <pmoore|buildduty> morning all
  1177. # [09:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning pmoore|buildduty
  1178. # [09:18] <pmoore|buildduty> hey Tomcat|sheriffduty! how are things looking today?
  1179. # [09:19] <pmoore|buildduty> i see some pending warnings in #buildduty :(
  1180. # [09:19] <Standard8> hmm, I wonder if I only ran it through the TB try server and forgot about the m-c one
  1181. # [09:19] <Standard8> oh well
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  1185. # [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore|buildduty: yeah this seems pending try runs right ?
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  1196. # [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah 1900 builds/tests from try
  1197. # [09:24] <petruta> Hi!The command prompt of the Browser Console is no longer shown. Can it be re-opened using a pref? Or it is now the same as the one from Web Console?
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  1202. # [09:26] <glob> petruta, i think you're talking about the gcli .. shift+f2
  1203. # [09:26] <pmoore|buildduty> ouch, yes
  1204. # [09:26] <glob> petruta, aka the "developer toolbar"
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  1206. # [09:26] <glob> petruta, if not, then you're talking about the "web console"
  1207. # [09:27] <pmoore|buildduty> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hmmm, this is confusing - do you know why I only see 153 pending items listed here? https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try
  1208. # [09:27] <glob> petruta, meta+alt+k
  1209. # [09:27] <pmoore|buildduty> Tomcat|sheriffduty: shouldn't there be ~ 1959
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  1211. # [09:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
  1212. # [09:28] <petruta> thanks glob, let me try
  1213. # [09:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore|buildduty: oh i know
  1214. # [09:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> that self serve link + builds
  1215. # [09:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> err link =builds
  1216. # [09:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pending =tests
  1217. # [09:29] <pmoore|buildduty> ahhh
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  1219. # [09:29] <pmoore|buildduty> Tomcat|sheriffduty: how do i list tests from buildapi?
  1220. # [09:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good question
  1221. # [09:30] <pmoore|buildduty> Tomcat|sheriffduty: but e.g. one of them is called "Ubuntu VM 12.04 try opt test mochitest-devtools-chrome" - is that not a test?
  1222. # [09:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore|buildduty: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/ is maybe a better overview
  1223. # [09:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore|buildduty: yep thats a test
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  1225. # [09:30] <pmoore|buildduty> hmmmm
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  1227. # [09:30] <pmoore|buildduty> i wonder what is going on there then
  1228. # [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/ lists tests and build slaves so maybe its more obvious (but not on which tree)
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  1231. # [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore|buildduty: from lookin at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try the test backlog seems across systems
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  1233. # [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so not just android also osx and win in some runs
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  1235. # [09:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and i guess all the Android 2.3 stuff is using linux so also backlog on linux
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  1256. # [09:40] <petruta> ping MattN
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  1260. # [09:41] <MattN> petruta: pong
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  1262. # [09:42] <petruta> Hi :) In bug 1035205 I was indeed using the web console, the latest versions doesn't have the command prompt in Browser Console
  1263. # [09:42] <MattN> petruta: you need to enable it
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  1266. # [09:43] <glob> hrm, my browser console has a prompt
  1267. # [09:43] <MattN> instructions are at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Browser_Toolbox
  1268. # [09:44] <MattN> "check Enable chrome debugging and Enable remote debugging"
  1269. # [09:44] <MattN> from the gear icon in the *Web* Console
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  1271. # [09:45] <petruta> it works, thanks
  1272. # [09:45] <MattN> cool
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  1295. # [10:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd8c0b04b8e6 - Solomon Chiu - Bug 931733 - Ease vendor porting of HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_XXX for color format conversion. r=mwu
  1296. # [10:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be691b6567d5 - Garvan Keeley - Bug 1013012 - Support for js highAccuracy flag in geolocation. r=jdm
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  1311. # [10:11] <glandium> any recommendation for an url shortener?
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  1313. # [10:11] <glob> glandium, what are your requirements?
  1314. # [10:11] <glandium> glob: simple to script, least possible amount of stupid redirections
  1315. # [10:12] <glob> glandium, if it's for pulsebot, i suggest bit.ly
  1316. # [10:12] <glob> glandium, mostly because it will return mzl.la urls
  1317. # [10:12] <glandium> glob: don't you need access to the mozilla account for that?
  1318. # [10:12] <glob> eg. feed it https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/791d638686a2 and you get http://mzl.la/1tilpp6
  1319. # [10:12] <glob> glandium, nope
  1320. # [10:12] <glob> glandium, you need the account to create non-random mzl.la urls
  1321. # [10:13] <nigelb> anything on mozilla.org gets shortened to mzl.la?
  1322. # [10:13] <glob> but it will automatically use mzl.la for mozilla.org urls
  1323. # [10:13] <nigelb> right.
  1324. # [10:13] <nigelb> neat
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  1327. # [10:13] <glandium> oh, i didn't know that. that's neat
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  1330. # [10:15] <glandium> now, which of the 42 python modules to use
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  1332. # [10:15] <glandium> apparently, there are only two, one of which is official
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  1334. # [10:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2296b7e4de6a - Brian Grinstead - Bug 1031472 - Automatically reload all preferences in source editor. r=vporof,harth
  1335. # [10:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5b292bea616f - Brian Grinstead - Bug 1033853 - Do not reload files that have changed in project editor. r=harth
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  1355. # [10:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9a75a4fe32ac - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 1034977 - "Crash in mozalloc_abort(char const* const) | NS_DebugBreak | nsDebugImpl::Abort(char const*, int) with AsyncShutdownTimer "Sqlite.jsm Waiting for connections to close"" r=gps
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  1370. # [10:36] <Kailas> Hi, Does anyone knows how to check an web object such as image, audio/video media is onscreen or offscreen object?
  1371. # [10:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0acf328ad8ed - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 1034975 - Search Service depends on OS.File, not on profileBeforeChange. r=mossop
  1372. # [10:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5091f7af8492 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 1034726 - AsyncShutdown now sends the stack in case of crash. r=froydnj
  1373. # [10:37] <Kailas> After READY event is triggered, I want to differentiate objects that are onscreen and offscreen.
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  1375. # [10:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccebb68bdf07 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 1034972: Don't allow object shorthand in asm.js; r=luke
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  1406. # [10:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e27f2f4793c - Mark Banner - Bug 1032469 Update Loop to OpenTok library v2.2.6. r=abr
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  1440. # [11:18] <glob> happy bmo push day! https://globau.wordpress.com/2014/07/08/happy-bmo-push-day-102/
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  1443. # [11:18] <glob> mmm less bugmail
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  1446. # [11:19] <Gijs> Does anyone know why mozmill tests for Firefox aren't on Tinderbox, while mozmill tests for Thunderbird *are* ? :)
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  1448. # [11:19] <glob> Gijs, tinderbox? :P
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  1450. # [11:20] <Gijs> tbpl
  1451. # [11:20] <Standard8> Gijs: ours have been around much longer that FF's
  1452. # [11:20] <Gijs> CI
  1453. # [11:20] <Gijs> treeherder
  1454. # [11:20] <Gijs> "the thing we check to see if 'the tree is green' "
  1455. # [11:20] <Gijs> :P
  1456. # [11:20] * Gijs has been here too long, clearly
  1457. # [11:20] <glob> hehe
  1458. # [11:20] <Standard8> last I heard the FF ones weren't passing consitiently iirc
  1459. # [11:20] <Gijs> Standard8: ah.
  1460. # [11:20] <Standard8> and I guess no-one put the effort into fixing them
  1461. # [11:20] <glob> edmorley ^
  1462. # [11:21] <Standard8> I'm also possibly guessing that marionette might be the focus now
  1463. # [11:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2efd9a7f5115 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 6 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  1465. # [11:21] <Standard8> but they are guesses ;-)
  1466. # [11:21] <Gijs> mmhmm
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  1468. # [11:21] <nigelb> Tomcat|sheriffduty would know.
  1469. # [11:21] <nigelb> I would have said, "a sheriff would know", but I don't.
  1470. # [11:21] <Standard8> This is probably last year sometime I think
  1471. # [11:22] <edmorley> Gijs: I'm not too sure - #ateam or whimboo would know
  1472. # [11:22] <Ms2ger> Gijs, there's mozmill tests for Fx?
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  1474. # [11:22] <whimboo> edmorley: we tried a long time ago, and failed because the framework was not that stable
  1475. # [11:22] <whimboo> we got pulled off
  1476. # [11:23] <edmorley> cool thank you
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  1482. # [11:23] <whimboo> Gijs: also lots of our tests use remote pages, and other stuff which is not allowed for in-tree tests
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  1489. # [11:25] <Gijs> Ms2ger: QA runs them, and sometimes they detect regressions, but because it happens async (I guess? I don't know how/where they get run right now) sometimes the regressions make it to nightly
  1490. # [11:25] <Gijs> which is unfortunate because in some cases that really shouldn't have happened
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  1492. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> TIL
  1493. # [11:26] <Gijs> of course, that means there's essentially lacking test coverage when just considering mochitest-* which do the majority of our front-end testing
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  1495. # [11:26] <Gijs> on the other hand, if we could integrate the existing tests better, that might be quicker/cheaper than rewriting the mozmill stuff into mochitest or marionette...
  1496. # [11:26] <whimboo> Gijs: we run tests on a nightly basis
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  1499. # [11:27] <whimboo> also we run tests on localized builds what buildbot doesn't do
  1500. # [11:27] <whimboo> so no, we dont want to land our tests in mozilla-central
  1501. # [11:27] <whimboo> Gijs: for most of the tests we have we got a in-testsuite- formerly
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  1503. # [11:28] <whimboo> so lets say it that way... wrong decision by the dev?
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  1505. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> What does "testsuite" mean? :)
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  1507. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> I tend to assume that flag implies "run in CI"
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  1512. # [11:33] <whimboo> Ms2ger: buildbot specifically
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  1538. # [11:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Standard8: seems https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43326070&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is from your checkin
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  1542. # [11:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: hi yt?
  1543. # [11:55] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I am.
  1544. # [11:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: one of your fire fighting patches seems to have a problem
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  1546. # [11:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43325951&tree=Fx-Team
  1547. # [11:55] <Yoric> Again?
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  1549. # [11:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess thats from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5091f7af8492
  1550. # [11:56] <Yoric> Oh, great.
  1551. # [11:57] <Yoric> That's the JSON parser bug.
  1552. # [11:57] <Yoric> I had forgotten about it.
  1553. # [11:57] <Yoric> I will need to install a workaround.
  1554. # [11:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: shall i close fx-team so you can fix if its a quick fix ?
  1555. # [11:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or shall i back this out so that you have more time
  1556. # [11:58] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Can you give me 10 minutes to see if this is a quick fix?
  1557. # [11:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: sure :)
  1558. # [11:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok closed Fx-team for you Yoric
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  1583. # [12:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6999f481c942 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 7e27f2f4793c (bug 1032469) for bc1 and dt-1 test failures on a CLOSED TREE
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  1588. # [12:15] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Ok, preparing to upload fix.
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  1590. # [12:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: cool
  1591. # [12:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2af5b7483d69 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 1024396 - Allow blocking certain permissions for privileged apps. r=fabrice
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  1596. # [12:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Standard8: sorry had to backout bug 1032469
  1597. # [12:20] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Done.
  1598. # [12:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: cool thanks!
  1599. # [12:21] <Yoric> Thank you.
  1600. # [12:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np
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  1604. # [12:26] <Yoric> !seen mak
  1605. # [12:26] <firebot> mak was last seen 6 days, 19 hours, 16 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying 'Gijs: I know he had some issues last week, so it may be delayed by those yet' in #fx-team.
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  1625. # [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: do you have any eta when the patch could land ?
  1626. # [12:48] <Yoric> Oh, I pressed checkin-needed and expected you would land it.
  1627. # [12:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh ok, will do :)
  1628. # [12:49] <Yoric> The only problem is that the Try run hasn't finished.
  1629. # [12:49] <Yoric> Given the triviality of the patch and the fact that tests pass locally, I'm confident that it should pass.
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  1631. # [12:49] <Yoric> However, I haven't really slept tonight, so my brain chemistry might be off.
  1632. # [12:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :) np - also pushed the fix
  1633. # [12:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e8330c70f626 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 1034726 - AsyncShutdown payload now represents stacks as an array on a CLOSED TREE. r=yoric
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  1636. # [12:53] <past> I used to "update" aurora every few months by cloning m-c locally, fixing hgrc paths, stripping 'outgoing()' and pulling any updates, but this now fails as 'hg strip' removes too much. Any idea why?
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  1660. # [13:11] <edmorley> past: try hg strip --no-backup 'roots(outgoing())'
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  1663. # [13:12] <past> duh! I think that must be it
  1664. # [13:12] <past> thanks edmorley
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  1666. # [13:13] <edmorley> past: np; if you have any issues see the full steps on http://jlebar.com/2011/5/20/Faster_and_smaller_clones_of_branches.html
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  1668. # [13:13] <past> yeah, that was my reference, but I was going from (apparently faulty) memory ;-)
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  1671. # [13:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8c903ca8a969 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  1676. # [13:23] <Gijs> dumb question time: is there a C++ equivalent of the JS debugger; keyword?
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  1678. # [13:25] <padenot> Gijs: yes
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  1680. # [13:26] <Gijs> padenot: what is it? :)
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  1682. # [13:26] <padenot> Gijs: one sec
  1683. # [13:26] <padenot> Gijs: what CPU arch?
  1684. # [13:27] <Gijs> padenot: I'm on a year-old mbp, so I guess x86_64 ?
  1685. # [13:29] <padenot> hrm, I can't remember the instruction
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  1690. # [13:31] <Gijs> padenot: hrm, solved with a dummy line and a breakpoint set from the debugger... but would be good to know for future reference :)
  1691. # [13:31] <padenot> Gijs: asm("int $3");
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  1693. # [13:32] <Standard8> Tomcat|sheriffduty: np. I'd forgotten about that whitelist
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  1695. # [13:32] <padenot> Gijs: I'm not sure if the asm syntax works everywhere, I tested this on gcc/linux
  1696. # [13:33] <padenot> and clang
  1697. # [13:33] <Gijs> padenot: interesting! Not the most intuitive, but if it works... :)
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  1700. # [13:35] <NeilAway> Gijs: html in popups... any wrapping involved?
  1701. # [13:36] <Gijs> NeilAway: lots, but that's not the issue, afaict the return value for getprefsize is just wrong
  1702. # [13:36] <Gijs> NeilAway: by which I mean, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1012920#c12
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  1705. # [13:36] <NeilAway> Gijs: last time I looked getprefsize assumes infinite width and no wrapping
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  1708. # [13:37] <Gijs> oh
  1709. # [13:37] <Gijs> why would it do that? :)
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  1725. # [13:49] <Gijs> oy, when did ./mach run start passing its own random temp profile? :(
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  1727. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that's silly
  1728. # [13:51] <Gijs> well, what's worse, there's no override
  1729. # [13:51] <Gijs> ./mach help run says there is
  1730. # [13:51] <Gijs> but it doesn't work
  1731. # [13:51] <NeilAway> Gijs: "because xul"
  1732. # [13:52] <NeilAway> Gijs: basically only the window knows what width it is... everything else has to stake a claim for width, and then the window comes along and doles it out
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  1746. # [14:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c7546553188 - Richard Barnes - Bug 1033492 - Add test. r=keeler
  1747. # [14:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55017488f655 - Yuan Xulei - Bug 1019627 - Check DOMRequest window before processing callback. r=dhylands
  1748. # [14:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9a0324345c7 - André Bargull - Bug 1035325 - Incorrect data type in GetDeflatedUTF8StringLength. r=jandem
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  1781. # [14:15] <Gijs> NeilAway: hmm... not sure that's the culprit here though
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  1787. # [14:16] <Gijs> NeilAway: the problematic div (let's say "#outer") looks like: <div id="outer"><div id="inner">Lots of text</div><input type="button"/></div>
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  1790. # [14:17] <Gijs> and even if I remove bits of text from the inner div, the input will never go on the same line, and so there's still a height difference that shouldn't be there...
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  1807. # [14:31] <nigelb> wtf https://twitter.com/nickpiasecki/status/486485836721319936
  1808. # [14:32] <mcsmurf> what's Authorize.net, something similar to Paypal?
  1809. # [14:32] <nigelb> yeah, I think so.
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  1812. # [14:33] <mcsmurf> VISA CA, hm..
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  1814. # [14:33] <mcsmurf> actually heh
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  1816. # [14:33] <mcsmurf> uh huh, in IE it works?
  1817. # [14:33] <mcsmurf> strange
  1818. # [14:34] <nigelb> It's like... firefox is too secure for us.
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  1935. # [15:35] <till> past++, thanks for fixing bug 1019024
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  1937. # [15:36] <past> till: yw
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  1958. # [15:48] <bhearsum> MarcoZ: ping
  1959. # [15:49] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: Pong! Thanks for looking into the file!
  1960. # [15:49] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: If my device gets borked, I know how to flash the base build.
  1961. # [15:49] <bhearsum> MarcoZ: yeah, about that...
  1962. # [15:50] <bhearsum> i'm doubting myself now, and can't figure out how you got into that state based on my read of the code
  1963. # [15:50] <bhearsum> do you recall exactly how you flashed your device?
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  1965. # [15:50] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: I first flashed the 1.22 base build. Had to do that after a previous install got borked.
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  1970. # [15:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ef6233bc854a - Jan Jongboom - Bug 957213 - Rewrite tests for inputmethod to avoid intermittent errors. r=yxl
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  1972. # [15:51] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: Then, I went to the QA auto flashing tool and did the auto_flash_from_pvt.sh file with parameters -dflame --eng --gecko --gaia -vmaster. So a master shallow build with eng turned on.
  1973. # [15:52] <bhearsum> where's auto_flash_from_pvt.sh?
  1974. # [15:52] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: I then set up the device, it had USB debugging on, I set up WiFi, and this morning, after your request, did a Check for Updates. And there it found the build and let me download it.
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  1979. # [15:53] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: All documented on this page: https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/B2G_Flash_Tools
  1980. # [15:53] <bhearsum> thanks
  1981. # [15:53] <MarcoZ> bhearsum: I cloned the git and did the above command line.
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  1993. # [15:59] <bhearsum> MarcoZ: OK, thanks Marc!
  1994. # [15:59] <bhearsum> o
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  2012. # [16:05] <Gijs> Standard8: did you want review on the test change or on everything?
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  2025. # [16:09] <Standard8> Gijs: just the test change, the rest has already been reviewed
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  2027. # [16:09] <Standard8> Gijs: sorry for not being clear
  2028. # [16:09] <Gijs> Standard8: no worries.
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  2036. # [16:12] <RyanVM> past: were you going to backport bug 957174 to aurora as well?
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  2040. # [16:13] <past> RyanVM: I'm writing the comment as we speak :)
  2041. # [16:13] <RyanVM> hah, win
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  2131. # [17:07] <bsmedberg> Is GGC on in beta31 or just aurora32?
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  2137. # [17:10] <fabrice> edmorley|sheriffduty: I would appreciate being pinged before backouts
  2138. # [17:10] <fabrice> I was just about to push a fix
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  2145. # [17:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: it's not standard practice, per the tree rules, because it normally results in too long a delay, when people promise to push a followup and then either take too long, or it still doesn't fix the problem, resulting in either the tree being closed unnecessarily long, or busted builds piling up
  2146. # [17:13] <edmorley|sheriffduty> at least with a backout, we get a chance to see if the things that landed after the broken landing will compile, even if then the followup lands minutes after
  2147. # [17:13] <fabrice> nothing landed
  2148. # [17:13] <fabrice> just gaia updates
  2149. # [17:14] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: irrelevant
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  2152. # [17:15] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: by the time I get persona to log into treestatus (to close the tree), there are often additional landings in the meantime
  2153. # [17:15] <edmorley|sheriffduty> and even with a closed tree, it still causes an impact on other devs
  2154. # [17:15] <edmorley|sheriffduty> please stop being selfish
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  2156. # [17:15] <fabrice> are you kidding?
  2157. # [17:16] <fabrice> I was just about to push
  2158. # [17:16] <fabrice> that would not have changed anything
  2159. # [17:16] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: if you had messaged me, we could have had that conversation
  2160. # [17:16] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: the onus isn't on me to message you
  2161. # [17:16] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: that's not how the inbound repo model is set up to work
  2162. # [17:16] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: beta31 AFAIK (though I thought I heard rumblings about disabling it soonish for unresolved crash issues)
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  2166. # [17:17] <fabrice> edmorley|sheriffduty: that's waht people used to do
  2167. # [17:18] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: optionally, mainly if the tree is quiet, closed for another reason anyway, or if they have spare cycles
  2168. # [17:19] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: anyway sorry to be blunt, I just took objection to the use of "I would appreciate..."
  2169. # [17:19] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: and this isn't the first time this conversation has been had in this channel
  2170. # [17:19] <fabrice> I think b2g-inbound is quiet
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  2172. # [17:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: I don't have the cycles
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  2175. # [17:20] <fabrice> the fact is you spent more cycles to back me out
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  2178. # [17:22] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: it took roughly 20seconds; much less than pile-ups when followups don't work (very common) or back and forth asking "do you have the followup done yet?" when people promise it will be ready in 2 mins but it takes longer
  2179. # [17:23] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fabrice: anyway this conversation isn't productive, so let's leave it there
  2180. # [17:23] <jimm> fabrice: tree mgrs can't track down every dev that breaks the tree, they'd be running around irc searching for devs all day long. They just back out, it's been this way for a long time now.
  2181. # [17:24] <jimm> frustrating whne you get backed out, but you can avoid that by pushing to try first.
  2182. # [17:24] <fabrice> jimm: I did, asan build did not run
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  2184. # [17:25] <jimm> sounds like we need to get that fixed on try!
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  2187. # [17:26] <RyanVM> jimm: don't remember teh bug # offhand, but pretty sure the current situation is on purpose, for better or for worse :\
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  2194. # [17:27] <jimm> well that's seems messed up. we have tests that run on mc that you can't run on try?
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  2196. # [17:28] <jimm> those tests should be disabled then.
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  2198. # [17:28] <RyanVM> they can run on try
  2199. # [17:28] <RyanVM> they just don't by default
  2200. # [17:28] <RyanVM> why Trychooser says
  2201. # [17:28] <RyanVM> which*
  2202. # [17:29] <RyanVM> well wait
  2203. # [17:29] <jimm> ahh
  2204. # [17:29] <jimm> ok
  2205. # [17:29] <RyanVM> no, asan, does run by default
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  2208. # [17:29] <RyanVM> for "all" runs
  2209. # [17:29] <jimm> as long as you can run them
  2210. # [17:29] <RyanVM> if it's not running on an all run, that's a bug
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  2215. # [17:29] <RyanVM> fabrice: link to the Try push?
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  2224. # [17:31] <edmorley|sheriffduty> the try push ran asan
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  2226. # [17:31] <jimm> RyanVM: i would hope theh two default runs to match
  2227. # [17:31] <fabrice> RyanVM: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=ff06d3f5458a
  2228. # [17:31] <fabrice> and yep, it ran asan. so wtf?
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  2231. # [17:32] <RyanVM> fabrice: old parent?
  2232. # [17:32] <RyanVM> that error looks bjacob-related
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  2234. # [17:33] <fabrice> I tryed again at with the followup at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e3d4150b0162
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  2236. # [17:33] <RyanVM> ok, so hopefully that goes green
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  2238. # [17:34] <RyanVM> fabrice: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/pushloghtml?startID=8697&endID=8698
  2239. # [17:34] <RyanVM> looks like the merge from m-c to b2g-inbound brought some new bjacob changes indeed
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  2241. # [17:34] <RyanVM> fabrice: bug 1028588
  2242. # [17:34] <RyanVM> so my guess is you were green on a pre-merge push and the merge silently broke you :)
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  2249. # [17:36] <jimm> RyanVM: when we 'chunk' mochitest plain up, do we use the the same 'chunks' when running tests on our three win platforms?
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  2251. # [17:37] <RyanVM> fabrice: BTW, I did try running that alternate patch yesterday. We did avoid the test failures the full disabling caused, but b2g30 was still trying to hit the webapp updates during the test run. So looks like it's ineffective. Oh well, looks like we're damn close with the full disabling anyway.
  2252. # [17:37] <RyanVM> jimm: should, yes
  2253. # [17:38] <RyanVM> jimm: our granularity in mochitest manifests is at the platform level for the most part, not OS version
  2254. # [17:38] <fabrice> RyanVM: ok cool
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  2258. # [17:38] <RyanVM> (we can do some android-specific stuff, but that's about it AFAIK)
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  2274. # [17:44] <@ted> heh, phishing attempts get weirder and weirder
  2275. # [17:44] <@ted> bug 1032564
  2276. # [17:44] <@ted> i guess they just mutate to stay alive
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  2296. # [17:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/533c1369f45b - Steven MacLeod - Bug 1018720 - Fix translation infobar button styling. r=florian
  2297. # [17:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b0084d208f32 - Steven MacLeod - Bug 1018720 - Change the translation infobar select dropdown styling to match the options dropdown. r=florian
  2298. # [17:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0102658bc570 - Steven MacLeod - Bug 1018720 - Change the options dropdown icon to match the select dropdown. r=florian
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  2417. # [18:37] <bsmedberg> the parent of the working tree didn't exist :-(
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  2420. # [18:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e3f62c645356 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1033481 - Use a .mozbuild file rather than a .mk in m/a/tests/background/junit3. r=rnewman
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  2424. # [18:39] <mreavy> smaug: ping
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  2433. # [18:41] <@smaug> mreavy: pong
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  2439. # [18:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7038fb2f8125 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout changeset 1e31c41fd029 (bug 965697) for suspicion of making browser_share.js perma-leak and just skip browser_sessionHistory.js on OSX instead.
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  2447. # [18:44] <mreavy> smaug: A patch on Bug 1022181 just went up to review to you. It's av2.0 blocker. I believe it's the last review needed for that bug. Once that bug lands, it allows other bugs to land (which can't land without tests). I don't know how deep your review queue is, but do you think you could review it today?
  2448. # [18:44] * mreavy begs smaug :-)
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  2453. # [18:44] <mreavy> (Loop/WebRTC really needs it)
  2454. # [18:44] <@smaug> review queue is long
  2455. # [18:45] <mreavy> :-(
  2456. # [18:45] <@smaug> what is av2.0 ?
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  2458. # [18:45] <@smaug> oh, tests only
  2459. # [18:45] <mreavy> sorry, there should be a space in there. it's a v2.0 blocker.
  2460. # [18:45] <@smaug> I could look at that
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  2464. # [18:45] <@smaug> and v2.0 means b2g 2.0 ?
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  2467. # [18:46] <mreavy> smaug: yes v2.0 means b2g 2.0
  2468. # [18:46] <mreavy> fxos v2.0 needs it
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  2471. # [18:48] <Waldo> hmm, this is interesting
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  2473. # [18:48] <Waldo> apparently MSVC's template handling doesn't work correctly for function references in MSVC 2010, wrt the tactics used in std::remove_reference
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  2475. # [18:48] <Waldo> jcranmer: ^ looks like function deleters may be verboten for now
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  2477. # [18:49] <jcranmer> o_O
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  2484. # [18:50] <Waldo> jcranmer: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43315468&tree=Try#error2 is a representative instance
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  2486. # [18:51] <vlad> dbaron: is there a bug with an example of adding a new CSS property?
  2487. # [18:51] <Waldo> jcranmer: and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2691680/why-does-visual-studio-2010-throw-this-error-with-boost-1-42-0 and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7459072/this-use-of-stdmake-pair-works-fine-in-gcc-3-and-4-it-fails-in-visual-studio?rq=1 for third parties hitting the same issue
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  2491. # [18:51] <@dbaron> vlad, changeset b94efbd721c2 looks like the most recent
  2492. # [18:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea72e2c9debe - Patrick McManus - bug 1034918 - nshttptransaction dtor can be private r=sworkman
  2493. # [18:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/61ee3167a1d2 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 1024513 - JavaScript Error: "NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS: [JavaScript Error: "targetElement is null" r=smaug
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  2500. # [18:53] <dholbert> vlad, (if the property needs some custom parsing code, then it'd also need a chunk in nsCSSParser.cpp )
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  2502. # [18:53] <vlad> dbaron: perfect, thanks
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  2504. # [18:53] <vlad> dholbert: nah, should just be keywords I think
  2505. # [18:53] <dholbert> cool
  2506. # [18:53] <vlad> I don't even know what I'm going to call it yet even
  2507. # [18:53] <vlad> might be "snoopy" for now
  2508. # [18:53] <dholbert> vlad: persona?
  2509. # [18:53] <vlad> HAHA
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  2515. # [18:57] <@dolske> VRsona
  2516. # [18:57] <@dolske> you heard it here first
  2517. # [18:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e0980111482b - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  2519. # [18:58] <dholbert> dolske++
  2520. # [18:58] <drno> are there instructions available on how and what to do to request an uplift for a bug?
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  2528. # [18:59] <Waldo> anyone have MSVC11 on hand to test something for me? does https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5533994 compile with 11? it doesn't with 10, want to know if 11 fixed this or not
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  2532. # [19:00] <nalexander> Sheriffs: fx-team bustage is mine, trying to figure out if I can recover without a clobber.
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  2538. # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: that's 2012, right?
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  2540. # [19:01] <Waldo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yes, think so
  2541. # [19:01] <Waldo> tho far be it from me to claim knowledge of MSVC's version numbering scheme
  2542. # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> doesn't help that cl's version 17 and change
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  2544. # [19:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: looks like it worked
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  2546. # [19:03] <Waldo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks
  2547. # [19:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5534022
  2548. # [19:03] <Waldo> well, footgun I guess for now
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  2550. # [19:03] <Waldo> function deleters are really kind of a weird feature anyway
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  2552. # [19:04] <Waldo> usually stuff should be deallocated the same way every time, without need for any sort of variable-sort-of-freeing happening
  2553. # [19:04] <Waldo> guess I can add a comment to at least point code-readers at the MSVC bugginess
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  2555. # [19:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e3492dba1b2d - Nick Alexander - Bug 1033481 - Clobber. a=bustage
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  2558. # [19:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e185bf9449f6 - Honza Bambas - Backing out b94c916122c8 (bug 1021612) for sudden windows xpcshell failures, r=backout
  2559. # [19:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> snippets.mozilla.com
  2560. # [19:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> what is?
  2561. # [19:06] <simukis1> How can I see who implements an interface?
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  2564. # [19:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mayhemer: so this showed up on your push - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43350917&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2565. # [19:07] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just backed out
  2566. # [19:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hah, and then I see that
  2567. # [19:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fail
  2568. # [19:07] <mayhemer> it's strange.. I thought each xpcshell test instance has it's own profile, at least locally has...
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  2605. # [19:23] <simukis1> I think m-c build is broken.
  2606. # [19:24] <dholbert> simukis1, can you post the error you're hitting, via https://pastebin.mozilla.org/ ?
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  2608. # [19:25] <dholbert> simukis1, (I've got a successful build with m-c, but maybe my mozconfig differs from yours)
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  2611. # [19:26] <jimm> bsmedberg: ping again. re bug 942707, curious if you have any qualms about moving pdfjs to toolkti?
  2612. # [19:27] <bsmedberg> jimm: sorry, will comment in the bug. MOZ_BUILD_APP should not be used in toolkit/
  2613. # [19:27] <bsmedberg> but I think the code should just live in toplevel/pdfjs and each app can build it separately
  2614. # [19:27] <simukis1> oh, sorry, I’ve got no space left for build.
  2615. # [19:27] <jimm> bsmedberg: yeah, I commented on that, i'm going to switch to a config option
  2616. # [19:27] <simukis1> dholbert: ↑
  2617. # [19:28] <jimm> that was some wip
  2618. # [19:28] <dholbert> simukis1, ah, ok :)
  2619. # [19:28] <jimm> bsmedberg: ok, thanks
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  2630. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimm: bonus points if you make sure that the upstream mozcentralbaseline, mozcentraldiff, etc build targets still work after that move :)
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  2634. # [19:35] <jimm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no idea what you're talking about so my guess is they don't, have a reference I can look at in the code?
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  2636. # [19:35] <jimm> or is this something in the git repo?
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  2638. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimm: yessir
  2639. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/blob/master/make.js
  2640. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lots of browser/extensions... stuff in there
  2641. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> feel free to yell at yury about that :P
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  2643. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but that code is how I do upstream updates, so it would be nice if it didn't break :)
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  2645. # [19:38] <jimm> ok will do. yury's been on pto but he's aware of the changes, i've been working with one of the other devs for the time being.
  2646. # [19:38] <jimm> we'll sort that out
  2647. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> great, thanks
  2648. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just wanted to make sure it was mentioned
  2649. # [19:39] <jimm> bsmedberg: by toplevel/pdfjs, do you mean something like browser/pdfjs? or just have a pdfjs top level directory in the repo?
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  2651. # [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> man, fonts are ugly in chrome
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  2655. # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> on the other hand, holy moley is tbpl fast
  2656. # [19:41] <@smaug> hmm
  2657. # [19:41] <@smaug> it is ?
  2658. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> in chrome, yes :P
  2659. # [19:42] <@smaug> just https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ ?
  2660. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah
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  2662. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> scrolling around, switching between starred and unstarred mode, etc
  2663. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just...zippy
  2664. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and ugly
  2665. # [19:43] <froydnj> pretty/fast...pick one :p
  2666. # [19:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: btw - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43353482&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2667. # [19:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no idea what needs preffing off for that one
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  2670. # [19:43] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: huh, I guess snippets isn't Android-only?
  2671. # [19:44] <@smaug> scrolling is faster, but chrome on linux doesn't seem to have smooth scrolling.
  2672. # [19:44] <@smaug> so it is line scrolling
  2673. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'm on windows, fwiw
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  2678. # [19:44] <@smaug> does chrome have smooth scrolling there?
  2679. # [19:45] <@smaug> though, I don't know whether it is enabled by default on FF
  2680. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> looks like line scrolling to me
  2681. # [19:46] <GPHemsley> Is it just me, or does Aurora crash when attempting to load a network page?
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  2683. # [19:47] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it doesn't look like my clobber push to fx-team triggered builds, can you investigate?
  2684. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: anyway, I'll file that and CC you when I do
  2685. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: that's normal
  2686. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> touches to CLOBBER specifically don't
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  2689. # [19:47] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: okay, so next pusher will be my lab rat? Done and done!
  2690. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
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  2693. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i didn't manually trigger them because I wasn't sure if it would only trigger android or the full gamut and didn't really care to find out
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  2695. # [19:48] <GPHemsley> ah, looks like it was fixed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1031697
  2696. # [19:48] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: v.g. As long as you're aware of the situation, that's great. Thanks.
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  2698. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> GPHemsley: oh, that one from a week ago
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  2701. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> GPHemsley: sorry, assumed you were on something a bit more current :P
  2702. # [19:49] <GPHemsley> yeah, I didn't realize the update didn't apply before I crashed again
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  2718. # [19:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12d48efc89eb - Terrence Cole - Bug 1032876 - Do not do excessive and unnecessary plugin proto teardown; r=johns
  2719. # [19:57] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: on linux I don't see much difference between FF and Chrome. In FF painting takes all the time, and FF process and X server both use about as much cpu time when scrolling tbpl
  2720. # [19:57] <@smaug> on windows the setup it probably very different
  2721. # [19:57] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: want to file a bug (core:gfx I think )
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  2726. # [19:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: pretty sure there are already various "tbpl is slow" bugs on file
  2727. # [19:58] <@smaug> hmm, hashtables
  2728. # [19:58] <@smaug> again hashtables
  2729. # [19:58] <@smaug> taking 3%
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  2731. # [19:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and we also have bugs on file for loading full logs hanging the browser (with stacks) and yet can't get any action on fixing it
  2732. # [19:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so meh
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  2735. # [19:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we'll be on treeherder soon enough anyway
  2736. # [19:59] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that log loading is very different case
  2737. # [19:59] <@smaug> it is all about font handling
  2738. # [19:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> still points at the underlying lack of caring about tbpl slowness
  2739. # [19:59] <@smaug> at least last time I looked at it
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  2781. # [20:14] <rvid> My emulator-jb build seems to be stuck in a boot loop. Anybody seen this happen before?
  2782. # [20:14] <rvid> Here's my logcat: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5534189
  2783. # [20:14] <rvid> I'm on Mavericks
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  2786. # [20:15] <bsmedberg> jimm: toplevel in the repo, if you're going to move it at all
  2787. # [20:16] <bsmedberg> jimm: but I'm not convinced it needs to move
  2788. # [20:17] <jdm> firebot: uuid
  2789. # [20:17] <firebot> 143a0234-3154-4abe-a538-49c99934a0cc (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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  2794. # [20:18] <jimm> bsmedberg: I have been told that fennec has an interst in including it, and I'd bet thunderbird might too if they aren't building it in already
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  2798. # [20:20] <jimm> I'll have to look at keeping it in browser, getting some of the child script initialized might be tricky.
  2799. # [20:20] <jimm> it would simplify initialization since I can use tabbrowser for it
  2800. # [20:20] <jimm> but that would lock it into browser even more
  2801. # [20:20] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping
  2802. # [20:21] <jimm> anyway I'll experiment around see what work best
  2803. # [20:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: sup?
  2804. # [20:21] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: missed Platform mtg - don't know if you noticed but we landed a fix for the top orange this morning
  2805. # [20:21] <jesup> it was in the notes though
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  2807. # [20:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: yes
  2808. # [20:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> the one that had the empty patch at first :P
  2809. # [20:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/dc3ee8c36ff1 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  2810. # [20:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f46c66583e75 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  2811. # [20:22] <jesup> Oops :-)
  2812. # [20:22] <jesup> makes for an easy review
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  2814. # [20:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> heh
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  2838. # [20:39] <KWierso> Waldo: bustage
  2839. # [20:40] <Waldo> KWierso: looking
  2840. # [20:40] <Waldo> oh blah
  2841. # [20:40] <Waldo> KWierso: easily fixed, sec
  2842. # [20:40] <KWierso> k
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  2847. # [20:42] <Waldo> KWierso: bustage is Windows-only, FYI
  2848. # [20:42] <KWierso> yep
  2849. # [20:42] <Waldo> and fix landed
  2850. # [20:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bba49067049 - Jeff Walden - Bug 953296 - Properly condition function-deleter tests on SHOULD_TEST_FUNCTION_REFERENCE_DELETER. r=bustage
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  2872. # [20:51] <kats> lots of blue on tbpl, is it going to be closed?
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  2874. # [20:52] <kats> well inbound anyway
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  2876. # [20:52] <kats> and b-i
  2877. # [20:52] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
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  2879. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: it's just a couple bad instances
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  2881. # [20:53] <kats> ok
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  2887. # [20:55] <@ehsan> vlad: ping
  2888. # [20:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20479ebf9be8 - Steve Workman - Bug 1034919 - Remove dangerous public destructor of nsTXTToHTMLConv r=mcmanus
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  2899. # [20:59] <nemo> hm http://evanw.github.io/webgl-filter/
  2900. # [21:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cea3a5af4628 - Jim Chen - Bug 1016441 - Switch to using real-time signal in ThreadStackHelper; r=snorp
  2901. # [21:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67001e68b078 - Jim Chen - Bug 1033006 - Don't free pointer in BasicCodeModules::BasicCodeModules before possibly using it; r=ted
  2902. # [21:00] <nemo> the save button always returns a blank PNG
  2903. # [21:00] <nemo> which was weird
  2904. # [21:00] <nemo> oh. hmmmm. he uses 2 canvases
  2905. # [21:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d1d20d0e8588 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  2906. # [21:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/52045544fe70 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  2912. # [21:01] <nemo> eh. that's not it...
  2913. # [21:01] <nemo> yeah. I set pointer-events: none on the div, and on each of the 2 canvases separately
  2914. # [21:01] <nemo> but every time I right click and choose view image, I get a blank image...
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  2917. # [21:02] <nemo> save button is blank in chrome too (well, had to force enable webgl but...) so. hum. dunno... it used to work ☹
  2918. # [21:02] <nemo> anyway. not a FF bug I guess. probably
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  2925. # [21:04] <marco> is there a get_test_program() equivalent for mochitests? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/tests/unit/head_xpcom.js#5
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  2934. # [21:07] <KWierso> fabrice1: ping
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  2936. # [21:07] <fabrice1> KWierso: pong
  2937. # [21:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c2246f4daa4 - Randell Jesup - Bug 979716: Proxy incoming audio to another thread before calling AppendToTrack() r=gcp
  2938. # [21:08] <KWierso> fabrice1: could bug 1024513 have caused this? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43362076&tree=B2g-Inbound#error0
  2939. # [21:08] <fabrice1> KWierso: I don't think
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  2943. # [21:10] <Bas> Oh God, we're switching to Google Apps?
  2944. # [21:11] <Bas> Ugh, now I'll need to setup another e-mail server to forward all my Mozilla e-mail too.
  2945. # [21:11] <froydnj> Bas: welcome to the future
  2946. # [21:11] <derf> Bas: How does that help?
  2947. # [21:11] * mcote|afk is now known as mcote
  2948. # [21:11] <Bas> derf: Not having to deal with the disastrously bad Google Apps interfaces? :P
  2949. # [21:11] <derf> Doesn't gmail provide IMAP access?
  2950. # [21:12] <Bas> derf: I prefer using web-interfaces.
  2951. # [21:12] <Bas> derf: Also, I refuse to store any e-mail on Gmail servers :P Matter of principle.
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  2956. # [21:13] <derf> I don't think forwarding your mail to another server is going to prevent gmail from storing it itself.
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  2958. # [21:13] <hub> Google IMAP? mwaahhhh
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  2960. # [21:13] <@dolske> Does gmail still work in Firefox?
  2961. # [21:13] <Bas> derf: I'm sure it won't, but at least all my sent mail won't touch Google.
  2962. # [21:13] <hub> dolske: not for long
  2963. # [21:13] <hub> ;-)(
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  2965. # [21:14] <derf> Bas: What are you going to use for SMTP?
  2966. # [21:14] <Bas> derf: I'm just going to send all e-mail from my private e-mail.
  2967. # [21:14] <Bas> derf: I only need to have incoming on my mozilla e-mail forwarded :)
  2968. # [21:14] <Bas> dolske: They just add pointless HTML from time-to-time to hit one of our slowpaths, it usually keeps working :p
  2969. # [21:14] <derf> And where are you going to run that?
  2970. # [21:14] <Bas> derf: I already run one...
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  2972. # [21:14] <Bas> derf: Kolab
  2973. # [21:14] <derf> Oh, can I have an account?
  2974. # [21:14] <Bas> derf: Private server.
  2975. # [21:15] <Bas> derf: If you can live with the domain @basschouten.com? ;) I believe setting up multiple domain's is quite the hassle.
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  2977. # [21:15] <derf> Right now I send all my mail through Mozilla's SMTP server, because I found setting up one somewhere that was not already black-holed to be impossible.
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  2980. # [21:16] <derf> Bas: I don't want to receive e-mail there, just send it.
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  2983. # [21:16] <Bas> derf: Hrm, I'm not an expert on these things but if all I need to do is give you a kolab account, sure.
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  2987. # [21:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc50dc8021e6 - John Daggett - No bug - fixup subscript/superscript test font. no effect on build, r=me
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  2994. # [21:20] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1034927#c2
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  2998. # [21:22] <Bas> Surprising how much willingness there is to grow our google dependency./
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  3001. # [21:22] <Bas> This sucks. Zimbra is so awesome.
  3002. # [21:23] <jesup> I run a lot of outgoing email through jesup.org, but stuff from my @mozilla.com address I route through our Zimbra SMTP
  3003. # [21:23] <bkelly> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just FYI, we relanded bug 1013571... 30+ triggers on try without any failures, but if the oranges come back please feel free to back out immediately if I'm not around
  3004. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok, godspeed :)
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  3006. # [21:23] <jesup> See the Yammer thread, and see the Mana page and (ugh) Moderator comments
  3007. # [21:23] <jesup> bas: ^
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  3009. # [21:23] <Bas> jesup: Yeah, I guess I'll be routing that through a private SMTP, although that will probably raise the spam marking. Might just have to no longer use my mozilla.com outgoing e-mail :)
  3010. # [21:24] <jesup> It's being done largely for cost savings. If it costs us even say 3 hrs/year (maybe 2) per employee, it's a loss. (to a first approximation; see the Yammer thread)
  3011. # [21:24] * @smaug has always tried to avoid using moco email whenever possible
  3012. # [21:25] <@ehsan> Bas: routing through a third party SMTP should be fine, I've been doing that for years
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  3016. # [21:26] <bsmedberg> cpearce: ping
  3017. # [21:26] <Bas> ehsan: Doesn't your spam score rise when the DNS of your e-mail domain does not resolve to the sending SMTP?
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  3022. # [21:27] <bsmedberg> Bas: I haven't experienced that in general, only for domains that have a SPF record
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  3025. # [21:27] <jrmuizel> ehsan: yes
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  3031. # [21:28] <Bas> bsmedberg: Good to know.
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  3033. # [21:29] <@ehsan> Bas: yeah, I haven't experienced that either, but I don't know what magic is involved behind the scenes
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  3035. # [21:30] <Bas> ehsan: No, it's true, I've had trouble once sending from my SMTP, turned out the receiving domain for some reason had a DNS entry that was months our of date, and because of that thought my e-mail was invalid, very odd.
  3036. # [21:31] <@ehsan> weird
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  3042. # [21:32] <Bas> jesup: Yeah, not to mention the subpar filtering in g-mail, which is a pain to work around.
  3043. # [21:33] <Bas> Some corporate process undoubtedly failed to correctly process the numbers for a decision like this.
  3044. # [21:33] <RyanVM> Bas: it was quite "fun" when the recent change to s-s subject lines caused all bugs within the same component to show in one thread on gmail
  3045. # [21:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2979332e094 - Randell Jesup - Bug 1022008: Hook up SDP negotiation for H.264 GMP codecs r=ehugg
  3046. # [21:34] <Bas> RyanVM: Heh :)
  3047. # [21:34] <RyanVM> glob ended up having to fix that on bmo's end
  3048. # [21:34] <RyanVM> because apparently he's never gotten any traction on getting gmail bugs fixed
  3049. # [21:35] <derf> Bas: "Correctly process the numbers"?
  3050. # [21:35] <Bas> RyanVM: Gmail's been full of bugs and dodgy decisions (i.e. tags instead of folders) for as long as I know.
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  3052. # [21:35] <Bas> derf: Like, I've -never- seen Google Apps be cheaper than Zimbra in practice :)
  3053. # [21:35] <Bas> And I've been in 2 companies before that made the switch.
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  3055. # [21:35] <derf> I've never seen anyone use Zimbra except us.
  3056. # [21:35] <@ehsan> vmware might ;)
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  3059. # [21:36] <derf> But I could easily see Zimbra costing us half a million a year to run.
  3060. # [21:36] <Bas> derf: Me too :)
  3061. # [21:36] <hub> derf: RedHat does
  3062. # [21:36] <hub> use Zimbra
  3063. # [21:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2dc3d7c0defc - Mark Finkle - Bug 1035436 - Remove home.1 session because it's not useful r=liuche
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  3066. # [21:37] <rbarnes> derf: or we could just be civilized people and run our own IMAP/SMTP/CalDAV servers. there are abundant open-source options
  3067. # [21:38] * hwine is now known as hwine-food
  3068. # [21:38] <derf> rbarnes: I _do_ run my own IMAP server.
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  3070. # [21:38] <derf> I gave up trying to get SMTP to work.
  3071. # [21:38] * rbarnes nominates derf to manage mozilla email/calendaring services
  3072. # [21:38] <derf> Die.
  3073. # [21:39] <@ehsan> rbarnes: we have been running our own servers thus far :)
  3074. # [21:39] <jesup> So we have our solution!
  3075. # [21:39] <hub> rbarnes: I used to do that until 2009
  3076. # [21:39] <hub> had the best antispam so far
  3077. # [21:39] * derf switches Mozilla to Squirrelmail.
  3078. # [21:40] <@bz> rbarnes: "just"? ;)
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  3080. # [21:40] <jesup> derf: die! :-)
  3081. # [21:40] <@ehsan> bz: it's "easy" ;)
  3082. # [21:40] * @bz switches Mozilla so snail-mail
  3083. # [21:40] * rbarnes switches Mozilla to telegraphy
  3084. # [21:40] * froydnj switches Mozilla to carrier pigeons
  3085. # [21:40] * @bz switches Mozilla to signal fires and drums
  3086. # [21:40] <froydnj> it has an RFC and everything!
  3087. # [21:40] * @ehsan grabs popcorn
  3088. # [21:41] * rbarnes switches Mozilla to trained butterflies http://xkcd.com/378/
  3089. # [21:41] * @bz watches the carrier pigeons eat Ehsan's popcorn
  3090. # [21:41] <@ehsan> dammit
  3091. # [21:41] <froydnj> lol
  3092. # [21:41] <@ehsan> get your pigeons off my lawn
  3093. # [21:41] <rbarnes> C-x M-c M-butterfly
  3094. # [21:41] <jesup> Run IMAP over IPoAC!
  3095. # [21:41] * @ehsan converts rbarnes to use vim
  3096. # [21:41] <froydnj> bz: I am all for Mozilla expensing a LOTR-style bonfire outside my house
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  3098. # [21:41] * rbarnes is an avid MacVim user
  3099. # [21:42] <@ehsan> victory!
  3100. # [21:42] <jesup> My email would be synced by around year 2200
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  3103. # [21:42] <rbarnes> ehsan: did you hear the one about the random character generator that works by putting an untrained user in front of vi and asking him to exit the program?
  3104. # [21:42] <@ehsan> lol
  3105. # [21:43] <@ehsan> rbarnes: who wants to exit the editor?
  3106. # [21:43] <@ehsan> just turn off your machine ;)
  3107. # [21:43] <rbarnes> apparently, there are people who think there are other programs one needs
  3108. # [21:43] <@ehsan> lies
  3109. # [21:43] * @ehsan is ironically advertizing emacs philosophy
  3110. # [21:44] <@bz> Exiting vi is on the list of "must-know Unix tricks" as far as I'm concerned
  3111. # [21:44] <jesup> bas: if you have direct experience, PLEASE comment on Yammer/Mana/whatever
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  3113. # [21:45] <@smaug> some tools open vi, and whenever that happens I either kill the process or search how on earth to exit the thing
  3114. # [21:45] <jesup> exiting vi is the only vi trick one needs ;-) (except broken systems without emacs or microemacs (used to maintain the AmigaOS in microemacs)
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  3116. # [21:45] <@smaug> nano is good enough for small shell scripts
  3117. # [21:46] <hub> vi is everywhere
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  3120. # [21:46] <hub> even by default on Mac-n-click
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  3122. # [21:46] <Bas> jesup: What can I say? Zimbra has much more and better functionality, in the end the money isn't what you should be worrying about, especially with high cost employees like us providing them with the best e-mail and collaboration capabilities possible is the most important factor, etc.? I'm sure they know all that.
  3123. # [21:47] <RyanVM> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43364590&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3124. # [21:47] <RyanVM> jesup: gcc 4.4 no likey?
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  3126. # [21:47] <jesup> RyanVM: looking
  3127. # [21:48] <jesup> RyanVM: isn't B2G 4.6?
  3128. # [21:49] <RyanVM> not ICS
  3129. # [21:49] <jesup> I build on B2G and tested it locally; aha, not ICS
  3130. # [21:49] <jesup> Grrr.
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  3132. # [21:49] <jesup> one sec to see if there's a trivial bustage fix
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  3137. # [21:51] <@bz> dbaron: let me know if you object to some part of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591303#c9 ?
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  3139. # [21:52] <jesup> RyanVM: I think there's a trivial bustage fix (cast)
  3140. # [21:52] <jesup> it's the "nullptr"
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  3143. # [21:52] <@dbaron> bz, sounds reasonable
  3144. # [21:53] <nemo> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1218390/what-is-your-most-productive-shortcut-with-vim/1220118#1220118
  3145. # [21:53] <nemo> https://medium.com/@mkozlows/why-atom-cant-replace-vim-433852f4b4d1
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  3148. # [21:54] <jesup> RyanVM: Ok, I'm just doing a 2-minute check build of a bustage fix (just add a cast). However, it's not a test against 4.4.
  3149. # [21:55] <Bas> Does anyone know what these roadblock productivity issues with Zimbra were? Or were they listed and did I just read over them?
  3150. # [21:55] <dholbert> anyone else noticing a blank strip at the bottom of the URLbar in today's nightly? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/119031/screenshot-urlbar-bottom-strip.png
  3151. # [21:55] <dholbert> (I haven't tried too hard to figure out what's causing it yet; haven't been able to repro in fresh profile yet, just my normal browsing profile)
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  3153. # [21:56] <nemo> to summarise the second link, vim's power is composability, which isn't emacs' strong point
  3154. # [21:56] <bent> dholbert, my windows one looks fine
  3155. # [21:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: looks fine on windows to me, though I have a lightweight theme applied
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  3157. # [21:57] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, (I have a lightweight theme too)
  3158. # [21:57] <mconley> roc: thanks for looking at this stuff, btw - highly appreciated
  3159. # [21:57] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, bent, thanks
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  3162. # [21:57] <mconley> dholbert: might be the pocket add-on putting that icon in your URL bar?
  3163. # [21:57] <mconley> dholbert: try disabling that one
  3164. # [21:58] <dholbert> mconley, will do
  3165. # [21:58] <bjacob> cpearce: are your GMPParent actors reference-counted>
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  3167. # [21:58] <bjacob> ?
  3168. # [21:58] <tbsaunde> Bas: I hadn't heard of them before, but my guess from reading the wiki page is that its stuff like gdocs integration
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  3170. # [21:58] <dholbert> mconley, nope, still broken
  3171. # [21:59] <mconley> hrm...
  3172. # [21:59] <@bz> PSA: this.window_.document.nodePrincipal is probably a secuirty bug
  3173. # [21:59] <dholbert> anyway, I'll poke around & see what I can figure out; just didn't want to duplicate work
  3174. # [21:59] <@bz> er, security
  3175. # [21:59] <mconley> dholbert: maybe ask in #fx-team?
  3176. # [21:59] <dholbert> mconley, I'll hold off for the moment; could be a rendering bug too
  3177. # [21:59] <dholbert> or a weird add-on
  3178. # [21:59] <Bas> tbsaunde: That does not sound like a 'roadblock productivity issue' ridiculous stuff.
  3179. # [21:59] <dholbert> just wanted a "just me?" sanity-check :)
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  3184. # [22:01] <tbsaunde> Bas: I could see it being one for admin types? and I suspect they are over represented in whatever survey there was?
  3185. # [22:01] <jesup> RyanVM: This should be the fix: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5534411
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  3188. # [22:02] <Bas> tbsaunde: Didn't they promise us Personally Identifiable Information wouldn't go into Google Docs anyway? So much for that promise.
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  3202. # [22:06] <abr> For IndexedDB, is there some way to register a callback for data changes? That is -- if we have two pages operating on the same database, is there a built-in way for one page to find out about database changes (other than version changes)?
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  3204. # [22:06] <jesup> RyanVM: local build is good. Want me land the bustage fix and see if 4.4 likes it? If it fails again, yank it and I'll fix it on Try.
  3205. # [22:06] <RyanVM> Standard8: looks like you're on the hook for this - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43366401&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3206. # [22:07] <RyanVM> Standard8: ironically on the test that Gijs created IIRC
  3207. # [22:07] <RyanVM> jesup: go for it
  3208. # [22:07] <Standard8> RyanVM: huh
  3209. # [22:07] <RyanVM> Standard8: css linting ;)
  3210. # [22:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jesup: note that I just closed inbound, so push CLOSED TREE :)
  3211. # [22:07] <abr> RyanVM / Standard8 : Gah! I thought we exempted those tests.
  3212. # [22:07] <Standard8> RyanVM: I know, I fixed that!
  3213. # [22:07] <RyanVM> FTL
  3214. # [22:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> fix it harder!
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  3218. # [22:09] <Standard8> oh grrr
  3219. # [22:09] <Standard8> packaged tests
  3220. # [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/389ab1534669 - Randell Jesup - Bug 979716: Bustage fix rs=ryanvm on a CLOSED TREE
  3221. # [22:10] <Standard8> KWierso|sheriffduty: ok, I can fix that
  3222. # [22:11] <abr> Standard8: Cool. Timeframe? We have a call in about 50 minutes and I'm sure this will come up. :)
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  3224. # [22:11] <Standard8> abr: about 2 mins if people stop pinging me ;-)
  3225. # [22:12] <abr> \o/
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  3231. # [22:12] * RyanVM resists the urge
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  3234. # [22:13] <abr> RyanVM: http://www.propertyshoot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/HistoryEraserButton.jpg
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  3236. # [22:13] <abr> (I may be showing my age here, though)
  3237. # [22:13] <RyanVM> :D
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  3239. # [22:13] <Standard8> abr: http://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/5534555 is enough
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  3241. # [22:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc87eb47aa51 - Mark Banner - Fix packaged unit test bustage from bug 1032469. rs=bustage fix for CLOSED TREE
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  3243. # [22:16] <Gijs_away> Standard8: drat, should have reviewed that harder, clearly :|
  3244. # [22:16] <Gijs_away> sorry!
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  3246. # [22:16] <Standard8> Gijs_away: totally difficult with packaged tests
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  3251. # [22:17] <Standard8> I never thought about that
  3252. # [22:17] <Gijs_away> Standard8: you know that you can run tests against the packaged version by running ./mach package and then running ./mach mochitest-browser --app-override dist path/to/my/test ? :)
  3253. # [22:17] * Gijs_away actually added the app-override thing because of this test :P
  3254. # [22:17] <Standard8> nope
  3255. # [22:17] <Standard8> now I do ;-)
  3256. # [22:17] <Gijs_away> I got bored of running things against tinderbox to try and figure out what would work and what wouldn't.
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  3268. # [22:21] <Standard8> Gijs: either it doesn't work right, or it doesn't let me repro the issue
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  3271. # [22:22] <rbarnes> abr: can we make those loop URIs a liiiiitle shorter?
  3272. # [22:22] <Standard8> rbarnes: we're working on it
  3273. # [22:22] <rbarnes> excellent :)
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  3275. # [22:22] <Standard8> probably in a week or so it'll appear live
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  3277. # [22:23] * Standard8 doesn't have exact timescales yet
  3278. # [22:23] <abr> rbarnes: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Loop/Architecture/MVP#URL_Generation.2C_Tracking.2C_and_Revocation
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  3280. # [22:23] <Gijs> Standard8: huh, that's... interesting :|
  3281. # [22:23] <nemo> ok. This is darn clever... http://opentype.info/blog/2013/07/03/color-emoji-in-windows-8-1-the-future-of-color-fonts/
  3282. # [22:24] <nemo> I have to give props to MS for that
  3283. # [22:24] <nemo> I was wondering. Does that "just work" in Firefox? like. it uses MS rendering?
  3284. # [22:24] <nemo> font rendering
  3285. # [22:24] <rbarnes> nemo: http://emoj.li/
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  3290. # [22:25] <Gijs> Standard8: tbh I don't understand why the regex didn't already match the filename, and/or why your change would fix it. :\
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  3292. # [22:25] <nemo> rbarnes: ew
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  3294. # [22:25] <Standard8> Gijs: the chrome uri would be chrome/browser/content/browser/loop/sdk-content/css/ot.css
  3295. # [22:26] <rbarnes> nemo: 😈
  3296. # [22:26] <Standard8> Gijs: so loop/.*/sdk-content isn't going to match
  3297. # [22:26] <Standard8> due to the double slashes
  3298. # [22:26] <Gijs> oh, right
  3299. # [22:26] <Gijs> hrm
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  3301. # [22:27] <nemo> rbarnes: 😝 see. that just is not... I mean. seriously... also. I suppose щ(ಠ益ಠщ) doesn't count as emoji
  3302. # [22:28] <abr> rbarnes: Ah, here we go. If you're really interested, you can cc yourself here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1026764
  3303. # [22:28] <abr> Erm. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1026426
  3304. # [22:29] <rbarnes> nemo, abr: http://9m.no/
  3305. # [22:29] <Sander> nemo: http://pixelambacht.nl/2014/multicolor-fonts/
  3306. # [22:29] <abr> rbarnes: Okay, that's one step too far.
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  3310. # [22:30] <nemo> Sander: I had no idea there was a Mozilla proposal
  3311. # [22:31] <nemo> Sander: but Microsoft's seems way better than Google and Apple's PNGs (ew)
  3312. # [22:31] <nemo> Microsoft's seems to degrade gracefully and be more flexible to use than the SVG approach
  3313. # [22:31] <nemo> Sander: doesn't degrading gracefully usually win?
  3314. # [22:32] <abr> nemo: Looking at their proposal at a high-speed skim, it's not clear how you would handle things like the gradiation on the "blush" that you see on the "embarassed smiley" that is part of Apple's slate.
  3315. # [22:33] <nemo> abr: yeh. but. theirs scales. Apple's doesn't
  3316. # [22:33] <abr> I mean, if you look at the example images, theyall look very flat, with an extremely limited palette.
  3317. # [22:33] <abr> So, SVG FTW. :)
  3318. # [22:33] <nemo> and better on size I'd think
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  3320. # [22:34] <nemo> abr: apart from working everywhere you'd normally bundle a font ☺
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  3322. # [22:34] <abr> Yeah, tradeoffs.
  3323. # [22:34] <nemo> Speaking of degrading gracefully. I'm still bitter about losing JNG and being forced to do stuff like http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase355.xhtml (this ugly image is just showing automatic alpha channel jpeg masking)
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  3325. # [22:35] <nemo> Was wondering. does anyone besides mozilla actually use APNG?
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  3328. # [22:35] <nemo> and... does Mozilla support any one of the various vying lossy image w/ alpha formats out there?
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  3387. # [23:00] <vlad> ehsan: pong
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  3389. # [23:01] <@ehsan> vlad: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1034930#c5
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  3391. # [23:02] <vlad> ehsan: talk to walter in #gfx -- he's working on taking a new angle update
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  3394. # [23:02] <vlad> ehsan: I don't know if that commit is in the one that he wants to take, but he can cherry pick it
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  3404. # [23:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mccr8: bustage
  3405. # [23:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43371750&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3406. # [23:06] <mccr8> weird. let me check...
  3407. # [23:07] <mccr8> maybe it is non unified bustage or something. :-/
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  3411. # [23:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mccr8: shall I back it out?
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  3417. # [23:08] <mccr8> KWierso|sheriffduty: no it should be trivial to fix...
  3418. # [23:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mccr8: okay
  3419. # [23:09] <cpearce> bjacob: yes, GMPParent is refcounted (but not threadsafe refcounted).
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  3423. # [23:09] <bjacob> cpearce: not threadsafe refcounted? What is the only thread refcounting it?
  3424. # [23:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7a2beb507f5 - Benoit Girard - Bug 1035978 - Layers/displaylist dumps don't print newline. r=kats
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  3426. # [23:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mccr8: closed inbound so more stuff doesn't land on top of the bustage
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  3428. # [23:11] <cpearce> bjacob: I think it's supposed to only be used on the "GMP thread". josh wrote the code initially, so he would have a better idea.
  3429. # [23:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71290fc83066 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 1034913 - Fix non-unified build bustage or something. CLOSED TREE
  3430. # [23:12] <bjacob> cpearce: which josh ?
  3431. # [23:12] <josh> bjacob: me
  3432. # [23:13] <cpearce> bjacob: josh aas.
  3433. # [23:13] <josh> Josh Aas
  3434. # [23:13] <mccr8> KWierso|sheriffduty: well, that should fix that error. I'll do a local nonunified build in case there's something else lurking in another patch...
  3435. # [23:13] <josh> bjacob: what is your question?
  3436. # [23:14] <bjacob> josh: just checking with you: how confident are you that GMPParent does not need threadsafe refcounting ?
  3437. # [23:15] <josh> bjacob: my memory might be poor, but I don’t think it should be accessed on anything other than the GMP thread
  3438. # [23:15] <cpearce> if we need to dispatch an event to create the GMPParent to the main thread, then its refcount should probably be threadsafe.
  3439. # [23:15] <bjacob> josh: ok
  3440. # [23:15] <josh> bjacob: it is possible that someone wrote code later on which uses it on another thread without changing the refcounting
  3441. # [23:16] <mccr8> KWierso|sheriffduty: looks like the rest of the patches should be ok...
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  3443. # [23:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mccr8: okay, thanks
  3444. # [23:16] <bjacob> cpearce: so i wanted to draw your attention to one issue: you also need to ensure then that when the refcount hits 0 (on the GMP thread) the destruction is deferred to the main thread
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  3446. # [23:16] <bjacob> cpearce: and i wanted to draw your attention to a generic reusable solution to this problem:
  3447. # [23:17] <bjacob> cpearce: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/layers/ipc/ThreadSafeRefcountingWithMainThreadDestruction.h
  3448. # [23:18] <bjacob> cpearce: i've been using that for other top-level protocol actors
  3449. # [23:18] <bjacob> cpearce: at least PCompositor
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  3451. # [23:18] <cpearce> bjacob: Awesome! We use that pattern in the media a bit, so a generic solution is very nice to have.
  3452. # [23:18] <Waldo> !seen bent
  3453. # [23:18] <bjacob> cpearce: PImageBridge should use that too, but because of preexisting refcounted base classes, it couldn't just use it, but really it "should"
  3454. # [23:18] <firebot> bent was last seen 82 minutes and a second ago, saying 'dholbert, my windows one looks fine' in #developers.
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  3456. # [23:18] <Waldo> hum
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  3459. # [23:19] <cpearce> bjacob: I take it ::mozilla::layers::GetMainLoop() returns the XPCOM main thread?
  3460. # [23:19] <cpearce> I mean, this is going to work in non graphics code right?
  3461. # [23:19] <bjacob> cpearce: yes, look how it asserts that when it gets initialized, IsMainThread() returns true.
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  3463. # [23:20] <bjacob> cpearce: for sure. it is not graphics specific at all. Feel free to move it to a non-gfx directory.
  3464. # [23:20] <cpearce> cool.
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  3467. # [23:20] <cpearce> This is nice.
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  3470. # [23:20] <bjacob> cpearce: (and non-graphics namespace)
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  3473. # [23:21] <bjacob> cpearce: the right place for it might be ipc/glue/ .
  3474. # [23:21] <Waldo> anyone know how much, to what extent, etc. we do/don't use the ICU we ship in b2g?
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  3476. # [23:22] <@khuey> the system level one?
  3477. # [23:22] <@khuey> that's an mwu question
  3478. # [23:22] <Waldo> yeah
  3479. # [23:22] <catlee> jesup: hey, so what are we going to do about gmp versioning?
  3480. # [23:22] <mwu> we don't
  3481. # [23:22] <mwu> you want to use it?
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  3483. # [23:22] <mwu> it gets linked in as part of some other library so it's a pain to totally rip out
  3484. # [23:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/580f5b55b410 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 827264 - Add some temporary android logging to nss. r=blassey
  3485. # [23:23] <Waldo> mwu: so people want Intl in JS on b2g
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  3487. # [23:23] <mwu> it also depends on some giant data files
  3488. # [23:23] <Waldo> mwu: which requires ICU
  3489. # [23:23] <mwu> which have been ripped out
  3490. # [23:23] <mwu> ok
  3491. # [23:23] <Waldo> mwu: it's easy enough to just bundle an ICU, it's what we do on desktop
  3492. # [23:23] <Waldo> mwu: but presumably we don't want two
  3493. # [23:23] <mwu> yeah it would be nice to reuse the ICU
  3494. # [23:24] <Waldo> mwu: the data file thing could be tricky on b2g
  3495. # [23:24] <mwu> is it something that we expect to want new versions of?
  3496. # [23:24] <mwu> because we can just make it available if not
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  3498. # [23:24] <Waldo> mwu: we'll want to update ICU periodically for security stuff, at least
  3499. # [23:24] <mwu> but if you want something fresh, bundling becomes more attractive
  3500. # [23:24] <Waldo> mwu: and in theory there will be more Intl updates over time
  3501. # [23:25] <Waldo> mwu: right now it's just date/time and number formatting and collation
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  3503. # [23:25] <Waldo> mwu: but they're adding more stuff, or at least were discussing it
  3504. # [23:25] <mwu> ok
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  3506. # [23:25] <mwu> is this stuff turned on on other platforms?
  3507. # [23:26] <Waldo> mwu: we ship it on desktop, will ship it on Android eventually
  3508. # [23:26] <mwu> planning to bundle your own for android?
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  3512. # [23:26] <mwu> those data files are pretty big..
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  3515. # [23:28] <Waldo> I...want to say that last I heard ICU isn't exposed on Android
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  3517. # [23:28] <Waldo> or at least, if it is, it's not exposed in a just-drop-in way
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  3522. # [23:29] <Waldo> mwu: I know once or twice it's been mentioned that we could not ship ICU on Windows if we used MS's intl stuff to implement Intl
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  3524. # [23:30] <Waldo> mwu: but it'd be basically rewriting Intl to do it, so
  3525. # [23:30] <Waldo> very unlikely to happen
  3526. # [23:30] <mwu> it's not exposed in a way that android promises won't be broken
  3527. # [23:30] <jesup> catlee: there's a bunch of work going on in bug 1020760 to finalize the API, and include versioning in the API. However, I'm no plugin expert; I was focusing on the API itself. ehugg wants to finalize the API to minimize the number of versions of the plugin they/we need to build and distribute
  3528. # [23:30] <Waldo> mwu: also on OS X there's an ICU, but not exposed in a non-breaking way
  3529. # [23:31] <catlee> jesup: ok. I'm mostly concerned about the build process. There's a make target to bootstrap the checkout there, but ideally we'll be pinning the revisions or branches of gmp-api somehow
  3530. # [23:31] <catlee> doesn't look like there's anything in the build that would update gmp-api
  3531. # [23:31] <Waldo> mwu: and on Linux the library version tends to be burned into symbol names, so can't just link against system one easily
  3532. # [23:31] <ehugg> catlee: I need bug 1035937
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  3534. # [23:32] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=558231b7c91c - 25 changesets
  3535. # [23:32] <ehugg> catlee: Then I will be adding pull by branch of gmp-api to the Make system of Openh264
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  3540. # [23:33] <catlee> ehugg: ok, great
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  3543. # [23:33] <catlee> ehugg: and is updating to tip-of-branch sufficient?
  3544. # [23:33] <jesup> catlee: ehugg just filed a bug to branch the openh264 git to make a FF32 branch; I presume we'll do something similar for future API changes
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  3546. # [23:33] <bjacob> KWierso|sheriffduty: my green try push for my new inbound push is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f53b52969d45 and the red there is a git network error or some such
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  3549. # [23:34] <ehugg> catlee: tip-of-branch of gmp-api should be I would hope.
  3550. # [23:34] <Waldo> mwu: so, what library is this builtin ICU built into, and what's the big issue with ripping it out? could be worth doing that as a first step or so, if it's truly not used, beneficial even in advance of Intl support being added
  3551. # [23:35] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  3552. # [23:35] <mwu> Waldo: IIRC it's necessary for libstagefright
  3553. # [23:36] <mwu> I think we have to comment out a bunch of code to get it ripped out, and changing code in that area is difficult since we have to coordinate across all SoC vendor forks
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  3555. # [23:37] <Waldo> ...hardware video decoding requires ICU?
  3556. # [23:37] <Waldo> mwu: or is this something about Unicode decoding or something?
  3557. # [23:37] <mwu> libstagefright also does software decoding fallbacks
  3558. # [23:37] <mwu> and it links to libraries so it can read from the network
  3559. # [23:37] <froydnj> bjacob: we don't require destructors of nsISupports things to be virtual, just private, correct? (they do have to be virtual if the class is subclassed, yes?)
  3560. # [23:38] <mwu> Waldo: it might be something else though.. it's been a while since I looked at the code
  3561. # [23:38] <mwu> removing it isn't the problem.. it's getting everyone else to pick up that change
  3562. # [23:38] <mwu> and on older devices, you still won't be able to get that removed
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  3569. # [23:39] <bjacob> froydnj: correct. If you want to make a destructor non-virtual by relying on the class never getting subclassed, it's nice to mark it MOZ_FINAL.
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  3571. # [23:40] <froydnj> bjacob: indeed. thanks for the concept check
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  3576. # [23:42] <mwu> Waldo: btw, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=903683 might be interesting to you, maybe
  3577. # [23:42] <Waldo> mwu: we actually are considering updating b2g on older devices? or we want to be able to ship newer versions, on devices that are oldish or something?
  3578. # [23:42] <mwu> sounds like they might be inventing something there to do what your stuff might do
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  3581. # [23:42] <mwu> Waldo: well, I think older devices are getting updated to 1.3 at some point
  3582. # [23:42] <mwu> and those updates don't really get much of an update on the gonk side.. only gecko/gaia
  3583. # [23:43] <mwu> and that's what I expect to happen for most future updates
  3584. # [23:43] <Waldo> mwu: Intl is sort of orthogonal; you can request a date/time formatted string that contains a requested set of components, with 12/24 formatting as one of the options
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  3586. # [23:43] <mwu> ok
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  3589. # [23:44] <Waldo> mwu: I think in theory we could return 24h numbers even if 12h were requested, according to the Intl spec
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  3592. # [23:44] <Waldo> mwu: I'm not sure it's wise to do, but I've only just considered this
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  3594. # [23:44] <mwu> it's ok I'm not thinking very hard about this either
  3595. # [23:44] <mwu> just happened to pattern match on this bug
  3596. # [23:45] <bkelly> KWierso|sheriffduty: hi, can you back out bug 1013571 again? it seems this is still a problem with that patch: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032783#c31
  3597. # [23:45] <Waldo> mwu: for consideration, there are four or five different bugs on file because the landing of Intl changed the behavior of Number.prototype.toLocaleString and friends to be in terms of Intl's behavior
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  3599. # [23:45] <bkelly> KWierso|sheriffduty: unfortunately I was just about to run to dinner, so can't do it myself till tomorrow morning
  3600. # [23:45] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bkelly: sure
  3601. # [23:45] <bkelly> thanks!
  3602. # [23:46] <bjacob> froydnj: quick question, since nsISupports does not have a virtual dtor, how does nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> work --- does it use QueryInterface magic at destruction time ?
  3603. # [23:46] <Waldo> mwu: so to some extent people have expectations about existing formatting -- wrongly, arguably, and it's not really practical to specify the existing formatting -- but it does suggest that when people ask for specific formatting, we'd go against their wishes at our peril
  3604. # [23:46] <froydnj> bjacob: well, Release() knows exactly which concrete destructor to call
  3605. # [23:46] <mwu> sounds about right
  3606. # [23:46] <bjacob> froydnj: ah right, Release is virtual
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  3608. # [23:47] <mwu> I think the main thing here is that mozL10N invented some things that Intl should be handling instead
  3609. # [23:47] <Waldo> mwu: oh, what's mozL10N?
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  3611. # [23:47] <froydnj> the dino-lion!
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  3613. # [23:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99c726eaa286 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 725b7db309c3 (bug 1013571) for causing the failures in 1032783
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  3619. # [23:51] <mwu> Waldo: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/shared/js/l10n_date.js
  3620. # [23:51] <froydnj> sigh, I wish std::remove_reference<decltype(x)>::type::InnerClass was easier to type
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  3623. # [23:53] <mwu> Waldo: though it sounds like it adds features that aren't available
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  3627. # [23:54] <Waldo> mwu: yeah, I think these are orthogonal
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  3641. # [23:58] <Waldo> mwu: or, mozL10N is orthogonal, l10n_date.js is more or less antithetical to Intl's concept that you say the components you want and ICU/Intl provide the most sensible formatting that includes those to you
  3642. # [23:59] <mwu> heh
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