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  9. # [00:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/692e16f722fd - Michael Ratcliffe - Backed out changeset 0ba8be1413f7 (bug 1033387) for xpc test failures
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  18. # [00:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e2360d41bd66 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 1033387 - Update JSBeautify and move it into toolkit r=fitzgen
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  77. # [01:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b257f50981e7 - Michael Ratcliffe - Backed out changeset e2360d41bd66 (bug 1033387) for loader test failures
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  112. # [02:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e92cb91b07b4 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 1016277 - Telephony AudioChannel policy: LIFO r=mchen
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  119. # [02:38] <jesup> KWierso|afk: FYI, I answered on bug 1037911 - the error you flagged was from a rev without the bustage fix
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  121. # [02:39] <KWierso|afk> jesup: exciting
  122. # [02:39] <KWierso|afk> or something
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  124. # [02:40] <jesup> uh,... weird.....
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  126. # [02:40] <jesup> KWierso|afk: so, that was from my push. But "unused << " is missing in the error output.....
  127. # [02:41] <jesup> how the <bleep> does that happen?
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  129. # [02:41] <KWierso|afk> jesup: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/58d9f861d2b4/content/media/gmp/GMPParent.cpp#l145
  130. # [02:42] <KWierso|afk> there were two NS_WARN_IF's in that file
  131. # [02:42] <KWierso|afk> encoder and decoder
  132. # [02:42] <jesup> Ah.........
  133. # [02:43] <jesup> I'm so sorry. I kept thinking of the original as a one-liner patch
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  137. # [02:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c95fdd24a27 - Randell Jesup - Bug 1037911: bustage fix for the other half rs=bustage
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  178. # [04:03] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dba4eb858d74 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 1028802 - Don't dereference null pointer in AlignedArray::Rellaoc. r=jwatt
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  183. # [04:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12b60cc85be1 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 1032431 - Handle device offsets correctly when 3d transforming in BasicCompositor. r=Bas
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  370. # [07:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jesup: ping / bustage :)
  371. # [07:56] <jesup> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking
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  374. # [07:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> closing m-i
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  378. # [07:58] <jesup> Tomcat|sheriffduty: simple fix; remove that line
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  380. # [07:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jesup: yeah feel free to push a bustage fix :)
  381. # [07:58] <jesup> Tomcat|sheriffduty: gotcha, thanks
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  525. # [10:18] <nigelb> congrats Tomcat|sheriffduty :)
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  535. # [10:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: :)
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  543. # [10:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: i guess nigelb means this now over thing in brasil
  544. # [10:31] <Ms2ger> Ah
  545. # [10:31] <Ms2ger> Meh ;)
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  598. # [11:25] <wilma> ping
  599. # [11:25] <wilma> somebody, please 'pong' to me
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  601. # [11:25] <wilma> first time in IRC
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  604. # [11:28] <gaston> wilma: pong
  605. # [11:28] <gaston> dont be scared
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  613. # [11:33] <wilma> thanks, i am have a question about getting information from builin ff inspector
  614. # [11:33] <wilma> is it possible to get ComputedStyles from it?
  615. # [11:34] <wilma> i have done this by window.getComputedStyle, but there are many unneeded
  616. # [11:35] <wilma> i got default style by window.getDefaultComputedStyle too, and made a diff
  617. # [11:35] <wilma> but it is not the same as in inspectors computed styles
  618. # [11:36] <jgraham> wilma: Yes it is, in the "Inspector" panel choose "computed" on the right pane. But this isn't the right channel for this kind of question, really
  619. # [11:36] <jgraham> I don't know which one is best. I guess there is a devtools channel
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  621. # [11:37] <wilma> ok, i will go here
  622. # [11:37] <Ms2ger> It's unsurprisingly called #devtools
  623. # [11:37] <wilma> thanks
  624. # [11:38] <wilma> and you didn't understand my question right, i need to get computed styles from inspector programmatically, within my addon
  625. # [11:38] <jgraham> Oh, I didn't understand that indeed
  626. # [11:39] <wilma> ok, devs are waiting me :)
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  708. # [13:24] <@bz> Does anyone know what the vidyo room is for the Monday meeting?
  709. # [13:27] <Ms2ger> Brownbags, I think
  710. # [13:29] <@bz> aha, thanks
  711. # [13:29] * @bz wishes this were documented. :(
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  713. # [13:30] <@bz> And I'd add it to the wiki, but maybe there is a reason it's not documented?
  714. # [13:31] <Ms2ger> I dunno
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  718. # [13:39] <firebot> longsonr was last seen 35 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 47 minutes and 24 seconds ago, saying 'any b.m.o admins around?' in #developers.
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  722. # [13:40] <Ms2ger> bz, nice "what do you do?" entry ;)
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  736. # [13:53] <mwargers> The 'DOMWindowCreated' event doesn't seem to be called for chrome documents opened, is it?
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  740. # [14:02] <@bz> Does MDN have talk pages or something?
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  744. # [14:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bz: don't think so
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  805. # [15:04] <Gijs> Sigh. So let's say I wrote a bunch of C++ that generates an XPCOM object, and I'm accessing the object through JS, and all seems to be fine, except I'm seeing it crash in the cycle collector not long after the code in question has run
  806. # [15:04] <Gijs> reproducibly so
  807. # [15:04] <Gijs> how do I figure out where my mistake(s) is/are? :)
  808. # [15:06] <@bz> Carefully look at all your refcounting
  809. # [15:06] <@bz> Or ask someone else to carefully look at your refcounting
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  811. # [15:06] * @bz volunteers if needed
  812. # [15:07] <Gijs> bz: that would be splendid...
  813. # [15:07] <Gijs> bz: as you may have guessed, this is the nsIURIFixup patch thing :|
  814. # [15:07] * Gijs opted against trying to replicate all the logic in JS in the end
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  816. # [15:08] <Gijs> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5553981
  817. # [15:08] <@bz> Gijs: I have not guessed, actually.
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  819. # [15:09] <@bz> OK
  820. # [15:09] <@bz> So GetFixupURIInfo
  821. # [15:09] <@bz> This is an XPCOM getter, so should be addrefing its outparam, right?
  822. # [15:09] <@bz> Where does it do that?
  823. # [15:10] <@bz> The caller in LoadURIWithBase certainly assumes it does that (note the getter_AddRefs)
  824. # [15:10] <@bz> On the other hand, the caller in CreateFixupURI does NOT assume that.
  825. # [15:10] <@bz> Which seems like a bug.
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  827. # [15:10] <@bz> What you probably want is:
  828. # [15:10] <Gijs> bz: that sounds very likely to be the issue, yeah.
  829. # [15:11] <@bz> well, depending on how you want to structure your code
  830. # [15:11] <@bz> Either nsRefPtr<nsDefaultURIFixupInfo> info = new nsDefaultURIFixupInfo(aStringURI);
  831. # [15:11] <@bz> And then info.forget(aInfo) before any success returns.
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  833. # [15:11] <@bz> Or the same thing with nsRefPtr, and then NS_ADDREF(*aInfo = info);
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  836. # [15:12] <Gijs> bz: there are boatloads of early returns in this mega-function-thingy :(
  837. # [15:12] <@bz> yeah
  838. # [15:12] <Gijs> so it sounds like I should opt for the former
  839. # [15:12] <@bz> hence the second suggestion
  840. # [15:12] <@bz> latter
  841. # [15:12] <Gijs> err
  842. # [15:12] <Gijs> lateter
  843. # [15:12] <Gijs> ...
  844. # [15:12] <@bz> You could do the forget() immediately too
  845. # [15:12] * Gijs has a case of the mondays :|
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  847. # [15:12] <@bz> but then you no longer have a nsDefaultURIFixupInfo*
  848. # [15:12] <@bz> since aInfo holds an interface pointer
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  851. # [15:13] <Gijs> right, and then I can't call the setters anymore
  852. # [15:13] <Gijs> OK
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  854. # [15:13] <Gijs> well, 'setters' - assigning into the return object I'm creating
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  857. # [15:13] <Gijs> bz: speaking of which, on a scale of 1-10, how evil is that? :)
  858. # [15:14] <Gijs> I could create non-XPCOM setters and/or make the attributes all not be readonly
  859. # [15:14] <Gijs> but this seemed... simplest?
  860. # [15:14] <@bz> Gijs: This seems perfectly fine.
  861. # [15:15] <rbarnes> bz: so would it make sense to extend DictionaryBase to have a ToJSON method, like the ParseJSON method?
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  864. # [15:16] <@bz> rbarnes: Sure
  865. # [15:17] <@bz> rbarnes: Which would take a Value
  866. # [15:17] <@bz> rbarnes: and would get called by the subclasses
  867. # [15:18] <rbarnes> right
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  869. # [15:18] <rbarnes> bz: so you would want to update the code generation as well, right? as with the JSON-flavored Init()
  870. # [15:18] <@bz> rbarnes: yep
  871. # [15:18] <@bz> rbarnes: Add a ToJSON method on all dictionaries
  872. # [15:19] * rbarnes needs to go learn how all that stuff works
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  874. # [15:19] <@bz> rbarnes: No time like the present! ;)
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  902. # [15:35] <@bz> oooh
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  907. # [15:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  947. # [16:03] <NeilAway> Gijs: that's easily solved via a toString method on nsIURI ;-)
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  949. # [16:04] <Gijs> NeilAway: we should actually have done that a long time ago, but I'm not sure it's still worth it now...
  950. # [16:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/21da50cacd2a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  952. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> bz, neat
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  957. # [16:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/0e974612773f - Mats Palmgren - Bug 943269 - Minor tweak that might fix the test timeouts. r=mwargers, a=test-only
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  981. # [16:26] <mreavy> RyanVM: ping
  982. # [16:27] <@smaug> is the default dtor in C++ public?
  983. # [16:27] <RyanVM> mreavy: pong
  984. # [16:27] <@smaug> or perhaps HasDangerousPublicDestructor just doesn't do quite the right thing
  985. # [16:27] <jcranmer> smaug: yes, the default is public
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  989. # [16:28] <jcranmer> "An implicitly-declared destructor is an inline public member of its class" [§12.4p4]
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  991. # [16:30] <mreavy> RyanVM: I wanted to ask your help/advice on 2 bugs. The first is bug 1026072. It's marked checkin-needed and jedp has asked for aurora-uplift. I'm helping jedp get it in because Loop needs it. Is there anything else we should do to get that in? (I'll ping the drivers if I don't see a response to the approval request soon.)
  992. # [16:30] <@bz> hmm
  993. # [16:30] <@bz> on fxos
  994. # [16:30] <@bz> I opened the "browser2" app
  995. # [16:30] <@bz> but where do I type a url?
  996. # [16:31] <@bz> (this is a Flame, in case it matters)
  997. # [16:31] <@bz> Ah, I want Firefox, not Browser2
  998. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> I'm not used to you flaming
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  1004. # [16:34] <RyanVM> mreavy: I landed it on inbound this morning, fwiw (so it's not checkin-needed anymore)
  1005. # [16:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/00c4fd216e93 - Yuan Xulei - Bug 1020726 - Do not store the active input iframe in a global variable. r=fabrice, a=2.0+
  1006. # [16:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/1f50cc1bb505 - Szu-Yu Chen [:aknow] - Bug 1035130 - Part 1: Only accept one conference request at a time. r=hsinyi, a=1.4+
  1007. # [16:34] <RyanVM> mreavy: but yeah, it'll need approval or 2.0+ before it can land on aurora
  1008. # [16:34] <@bz> Hmm
  1009. # [16:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/69340019902d - Szu-Yu Chen [:aknow] - Bug 1035130 - Part 2: Add test to send conference request twice. r=hsinyi, a=1.4+
  1010. # [16:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/2055e28772b0 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 1016277 - Telephony AudioChannel policy: LIFO. r=mchen, a=2.0+
  1011. # [16:34] <@bz> Should I expect my Flame to have 1.3.0.0-prerelease installed?
  1012. # [16:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ee3c7413a1f3 - Randell Jesup - Bug 1037626 - Support Webrtc H.264 offers with only packetization mode 1. r=ehugg, a=2.0+
  1013. # [16:35] <@bz> And software updates to say "check later"?
  1014. # [16:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/0e4e020dbe8a - Randell Jesup - Bug 1035819 - Patch 1 - Add notification of DirectListeners and generalize Notification of events. r=roc, a=2.0+
  1015. # [16:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/53075e07875f - Randell Jesup - Bug 1035819 - Patch 2 - Enable dynamic rotation in gUM when we're hooked to a PeerConnection. r=jhlin, a=2.0+
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  1018. # [16:37] <jesup> RyanVM: thanks
  1019. # [16:37] <RyanVM> (I folded the bustage fix into part 2)
  1020. # [16:37] <jesup> RyanVM: thanks; makes total sense
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  1025. # [16:40] <mreavy> RyanVM: ah, thanks. I missed that you did the check-in-- thank you! I'll ping Lawrence for aurora approval. The other bug I wanted to ask about was Bug 1016277. We need "patch1" and "patch2" in v2.0. patch1 is gecko, patch2 is gaia. Looks like patch1 is already uplifted by you -- thank you. I'm less familiar with gaia uplifts. Since we want patch2 in v2.0 and it's a gaia patch, how...
  1026. # [16:40] <mreavy> ...does it get into v2.0?
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  1030. # [16:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66651fb7bca3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 28664fb86b3c (bug 1036847) for causing frequent OSX mochitest timeouts.
  1031. # [16:41] <RyanVM> mreavy: when I do the uplift in a few minutes :P
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  1033. # [16:43] <mreavy> RyanVM: ah, sorry -- I guess I asked a silly question ;-) So both patches will be in once you're done with uplifts (which you're doing right now), yes?
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  1035. # [16:43] <RyanVM> mreavy: i'm going through gaia 2.0+ bugs right now
  1036. # [16:43] <RyanVM> correct
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  1039. # [16:43] <mreavy> RyanVM: awesome! thank you!!! we're so close to the deadline, I didn't want to take for granted that I had the right process (especially since I'm relative new to gaia stuff).
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  1041. # [16:44] <RyanVM> doesn't help that that bug is a confusing mess
  1042. # [16:44] <RyanVM> I actually ping jaoo about it earlier to make sure I had the uplift situation correct for it
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  1046. # [16:46] <mreavy> RyanVM: that bug is truly "the bug that wouldn't die"
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  1048. # [16:47] <mreavy> RyanVM: the reason I pinged is that I didn't want to take the chance that something would go wrong in the uplift. I think that bug has over 150 comments!
  1049. # [16:47] <RyanVM> yeah, I left status-b2g-v2.0 set to affected so I wouldn't forget to get the other part (so it'd still turn up in the bug queries)
  1050. # [16:48] <RyanVM> be afraid if you see everything set to fixed and missing uplifts
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  1088. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: explain to me why rdf Assertion needs HasDangerousPublicDestructor
  1089. # [17:10] <BenWa> bsmedberg: because the code has an explicit call to delete which will cause a double free if something has a reference to that object
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  1092. # [17:10] <BenWa> I couldn’t easily tell if that’s the case
  1093. # [17:11] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: do you know where that is?
  1094. # [17:11] <BenWa> yes, one moment
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  1098. # [17:13] <BenWa> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/rdf/base/src/nsInMemoryDataSource.cpp#1320
  1099. # [17:13] <BenWa> That’s the only error reported by the compiler
  1100. # [17:14] <Ms2ger> gcp, fun fact: twitter offers to translate your Skrzyszkowiak tweet
  1101. # [17:14] <gcp> from what to what?
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  1105. # [17:16] <gcp> from pressish to polish>
  1106. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> From Polish
  1107. # [17:17] <gcp> huhuhu
  1108. # [17:17] <Ms2ger> ...
  1109. # [17:17] <Ms2ger> The translation doesn't seem to have changed anything
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  1114. # [17:18] <Ms2ger> Also, this is how DHL delivers the Flames: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsgSpN0IAAAufUR.jpg
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  1187. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: do you want to land the RDF bits along with the rest of the patches in bug 1037691, or shall I do it separately?
  1188. # [17:59] <BenWa> bsmedberg: probably better to get bulk discount and do it all at once
  1189. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> ok thanks
  1190. # [18:00] <jesup> do we still need to avoid ">>" in template instances?
  1191. # [18:01] <ekr> RyanVM: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5554525
  1192. # [18:01] <@smaug> jesup: you mean >> without space between > and > ?
  1193. # [18:01] <jesup> yes
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  1195. # [18:02] <@smaug> >> should work
  1196. # [18:02] <RyanVM> mconley ^
  1197. # [18:02] <RyanVM> ekr: thanks as always :)
  1198. # [18:02] <@smaug> so no need for the space anymore
  1199. # [18:02] <jesup> ok, thanks - probably dropping VS2008 helped
  1200. # [18:02] <mconley> RyanVM: what's up?
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  1202. # [18:02] <mconley> did I break something?
  1203. # [18:02] <RyanVM> mconley: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5554525
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  1205. # [18:03] <mconley> aw dammit
  1206. # [18:03] <Mossop> Sorry
  1207. # [18:03] <kgrandon> bent: ping?
  1208. # [18:04] <mconley> ah
  1209. # [18:04] <mconley> RyanVM: looks like a rebase screwed up: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdf72cebcd85#l20.30
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  1211. # [18:04] <mconley> there should definitely only be one of those. Cool if I land a follow-up, or should I just back the mutha out?
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  1213. # [18:04] <mconley> and ensure I'm green on try?
  1214. # [18:05] <RyanVM> mconley: follow-up please
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  1216. # [18:05] <mconley> coolbeans, thanks
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  1220. # [18:08] <@smaug> BenWa: what do you mean with "bailouts" in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1037984#c3 ?
  1221. # [18:09] <@smaug> something Gecko profiler reports?
  1222. # [18:09] <BenWa> smaug: if you profile it, you get like a thousand red bailout markers
  1223. # [18:09] <BenWa> 10s each millisecond
  1224. # [18:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e623938ea6c7 - Mike Conley - Follow-up for Bug 1002354 - remove dual GetId in nsScreenGtk injected during rebase foul-up. r=bustage-fix on a CLOSED TREE.
  1225. # [18:09] <mconley> ekr: a fresh pull from inbound should fix things up
  1226. # [18:10] <@smaug> BenWa: but what those bailouts mean?
  1227. # [18:10] <BenWa> smaug: I don’t know. They are from the self-hosted code but you’d have to talk to js to really know
  1228. # [18:10] <BenWa> generally a ton of bailouts each ms is a bug
  1229. # [18:10] <mconley> I think I know the answer to this one
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  1231. # [18:10] <mconley> bailouts is when the JIT code gets dumped
  1232. # [18:10] <@smaug> ok, so they are some JS things
  1233. # [18:10] <@smaug> ahaa
  1234. # [18:10] <mconley> and we go back to baseline
  1235. # [18:11] <@smaug> thanks
  1236. # [18:11] <mconley> at least, I think we go back to baseline. Maybe we go back to interpreter. I don't remember. But it's definitely dumping JIT.
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  1238. # [18:11] <ekr> mconley, you mean you fixed m-i?
  1239. # [18:11] <ekr> Or something else?
  1240. # [18:12] <mconley> ekr: I think I just fixed m-i with my latest push
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  1245. # [18:12] <ekr> mconley: will advise after the buildbot fnished
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  1247. # [18:13] <mconley> ekr: alrighty, cool, thanks
  1248. # [18:13] <ekr> mconley: negative. http://buildbot.rtfm.com:8010/builders/ubuntu12_04_64/builds/337/steps/Compile/logs/stdio
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  1251. # [18:13] <mconley> ekr: er... you're sure that's with my latest push (https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e623938ea6c7) ?
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  1254. # [18:14] <ekr> mconley: it's just whatever my buildbot is doing
  1255. # [18:14] <ekr> http://buildbot.rtfm.com:8010/builders/ubuntu12_04_64/builds/337
  1256. # [18:14] <mconley> shoot
  1257. # [18:14] <mconley> ok
  1258. # [18:14] <mconley> RyanVM: yeah, my last push didn't do the job. I'mma back out. Sorry about all this.
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  1263. # [18:18] <@gavin> mconley: you wanted to keep th e"NS_IMETHODIMP" one, no?
  1264. # [18:18] <@gavin> removed the wrong duplicate :)
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  1272. # [18:19] <mconley> gavin: guh. *sigh*, that's me panicking and flailing, I guess. I'm gonna build this thing locally on my Linux VM before I re-push
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  1315. # [18:35] <RyanVM> jryans: ping
  1316. # [18:35] <jryans> RyanVM: pong
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  1318. # [18:35] <RyanVM> jryans: hey, a bunch of mochitest-dt logspam started recently and I'm wondering if it's related to bug 1033079 - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=43747323&tree=Mozilla-Central
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  1320. # [18:35] <RyanVM> it started on m-c with this merge: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=340b19c14d3d
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  1322. # [18:36] <RyanVM> jryans; hmm, the Try push in the bug is clean
  1323. # [18:36] <RyanVM> maybe one of jwalker's
  1324. # [18:36] <jryans> RyanVM: yeah, i don't think it's mine, let me see if i can guess...
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  1330. # [18:38] <jryans> RyanVM: maybe this one? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f1747ba03374
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  1333. # [18:40] <RyanVM> jryans: looks like it goes back further
  1334. # [18:40] <RyanVM> bisecting on fx-team
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  1343. # [18:43] <RyanVM> jesup: don't know about you, but vidyo's still in bad shape for me today
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  1362. # [18:56] <djc> bz: so for bug 779723, I finally got it to compile and link
  1363. # [18:56] <@bz> Do we have a bugzilla tag for "comment on wrong bug?"
  1364. # [18:56] <djc> so I started looking at actual implementation stuff
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  1367. # [18:56] <sfink> my firefox process have a vmsize of 10.1GB right now.
  1368. # [18:56] <sfink> that's not good
  1369. # [18:56] <sfink> "only" 4.8GB rss
  1370. # [18:56] <@bz> djc: OK
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  1372. # [18:57] <glob> bz, "typo" ?
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  1374. # [18:57] <djc> bz: so am I correct in thinking that the new code in AddElementToTableInternal should be gated on something having to do with input[type="radio"]?
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  1376. # [18:57] <@bz> glob: Good as any
  1377. # [18:57] <@bz> glob: thanks!
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  1379. # [18:57] <djc> or should I just always use a RadioNodeList?
  1380. # [18:58] <@bz> djc: new code being the code that creates a nodelist?
  1381. # [18:58] <djc> bz: yeah
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  1385. # [18:58] <@bz> djc: It should always use a RadioNodeList
  1386. # [18:59] * @bz realizes the spec here is pretty bogus
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  1396. # [19:01] <djc> bz: but then GetValue returns undefined for non-radio inputs? I guess I'm not quite clear on how this is supposed to work
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  1398. # [19:01] <heftig> does the gtk3 porting effort have its own channel?
  1399. # [19:02] <@bz> djc: So what GetValue does is ...
  1400. # [19:02] <@bz> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-dom-interfaces.html#dom-radionodelist-value
  1401. # [19:02] <NeilAway> bah, I got the compatibility email not twice, but three times :s
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  1403. # [19:02] <@bz> djv: so it walks the list, looking for the first thing in the list that is a radio input
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  1405. # [19:02] <@bz> djc: ^
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  1407. # [19:02] <@bz> djc: And then returns its value if it finds one
  1408. # [19:02] <@bz> djc: Otherwise it returns the empty string.
  1409. # [19:02] <djc> bz: ah yeah, I just started reading up on that
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  1414. # [19:04] <djc> bz: okay, I think I can move on
  1415. # [19:04] <jesup> RyanVM: no improvement - it seems to certain destinations (small fraction of the net), I'm seeing TCP resets and/or low transfer rates
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  1417. # [19:04] <djc> getting that shit compiled was rather harder than I thought it would be...
  1418. # [19:04] <jesup> RyanVM: probably the resets are killing vidyo
  1419. # [19:04] * @bz realizes this spec is bogus only because UA behavior is insane
  1420. # [19:04] <@bz> djc: :(
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  1422. # [19:05] <jesup> Speedtest.net to one of the three sites in San Jose shows 80+Mbps for ~ 10 seconds, then drops to near 0 (reset I presume)
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  1429. # [19:05] <djc> bz: oh well, interesting learning experience
  1430. # [19:05] <djc> I'll come back for more help if needed, thanks so far :)
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  1448. # [19:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66a22c818713 - Bobby Holley - Bug 856067 - Tests. r=me
  1449. # [19:07] <ekr> bholley: build bustage.
  1450. # [19:07] <ekr> http://buildbot.rtfm.com:8010/builders/ubuntu12_04_64/builds/340/steps/Compile/logs/stdio
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  1453. # [19:07] <ekr> bholley: do I need to clobber?
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  1462. # [19:10] <RyanVM> ekr: he's not in channel
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  1465. # [19:11] <heftig> does the gtk3 port have any build/runtime dependencies changes except for the addition of gtk3?
  1466. # [19:12] <ekr> RyanVM: OK, well, I think it may be busted
  1467. # [19:12] <RyanVM> ekr: agreed
  1468. # [19:12] <RyanVM> busted on inbound too
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  1470. # [19:12] <RyanVM> tbpl rather
  1471. # [19:12] <gcp> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1018928
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  1473. # [19:13] <gcp> RyanVM: I'd checkin-needed this but only the m-a+ patch should go on m-a
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  1475. # [19:13] <RyanVM> gcp: [checkin-needed-aurora] on the whiteboard
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  1478. # [19:13] <gcp> thx
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  1482. # [19:13] <RyanVM> gcp: just the one patch or all 3
  1483. # [19:13] <RyanVM> ?
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  1487. # [19:13] <gcp> only the first one that has m-a+
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  1489. # [19:13] <mconley> RyanVM: ping
  1490. # [19:13] <RyanVM> mconley: pong
  1491. # [19:14] <RyanVM> gcp: ok
  1492. # [19:14] <mconley> RyanVM: hey - suppose I've got a fix for my changeset and I've got things building on Linux again locally. What's the best way to re-land? hg backout my backouts?
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  1495. # [19:14] <mconley> and re-apply then squash my fix in?
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  1497. # [19:14] <RyanVM> mconley: hg qbackout --apply will probably do what you want
  1498. # [19:14] <mconley> alright, cool
  1499. # [19:14] <RyanVM> or you can export the original csets and re-import them with your change added
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  1501. # [19:15] <mconley> RyanVM: thanks
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  1508. # [19:16] <RyanVM> ekr: AFAICT, he landed the maniftest change without the test
  1509. # [19:16] <RyanVM> bholley ^
  1510. # [19:16] <RyanVM> bholley: forget an hg add there? :)
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  1512. # [19:16] <bholley> RyanVM: so I did
  1513. # [19:16] <bholley> RyanVM: can I push a followup?
  1514. # [19:16] <RyanVM> please do
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  1518. # [19:19] <bholley> RyanVM: done
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  1520. # [19:20] <RyanVM> thanks
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  1536. # [19:25] * botond wonders how involved it would be to create an RSS feed for tree status changes based on https://treestatus.mozilla.org/mozilla-inbound
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  1543. # [19:27] <KWierso> botond: I know status changes get published to #buildduty, though it polls for changes every few minutes, so doesn't always catch everything
  1544. # [19:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bd68bbc99e5d - Fabrice Desré - Bug 1037030 - Fix ContactManager.js permission prompting. r=gwagner
  1545. # [19:28] <sfink> are there any pulse messages for tree status changes? Could there be?
  1546. # [19:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1a9546b1b79d - Mark Finkle - Bug 1037128 - Regression: Contact API usage is being prompt on webpages r=fabrice
  1547. # [19:28] <KWierso> botond: would be nice if treestatus published to pulse
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  1549. # [19:28] <sfink> heh
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  1552. # [19:29] <KWierso> sfink: I don't see any bugs on file for that
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  1554. # [19:29] <KWierso> but I (not knowing much about how pulse works) don't see it being too hard to do...
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  1558. # [19:30] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
  1559. # [19:30] <@bsmedberg> jesup: sir!
  1560. # [19:30] <botond> KWierso: sfink: is there something special about publishing to pulse? is it not just an rss feed aggregator?
  1561. # [19:30] <jesup> bsmedberg: where? ;-)
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  1563. # [19:30] <jesup> bsmedberg: Bug 1037754
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  1566. # [19:31] <jesup> So we need to figure out how we're going to advertise availability of H.264 codecs to the webrtc code
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  1569. # [19:31] <sfink> botond: well, it's an event queueing system (it uses an AMQP server). And RSS feeds are kind of like event queues, sorta. But amqp and rss aren't really related.
  1570. # [19:31] <@bsmedberg> jesup: ok
  1571. # [19:32] <mrbkap> bsmedberg: Can you get to the review in bug 687194 by the end of this week?
  1572. # [19:32] <jesup> I have static funcs addVideoCodecsGmp(mask) to tell it that GMP has codecs for a mask set of values (only H.264 for now)
  1573. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> mrbkap: actually I'm not sure I can. Although I really don't know who else would be good.
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  1577. # [19:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/058b21302b63 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 1038093 - Create Latin1 strings in some more cases, when Latin1 strings are enabled. r=luke
  1578. # [19:33] <jesup> And I'm going to add a removeVideoCodecsGmp() to go the other way (user turns them off) so we don't have to restart to pick it up
  1579. # [19:33] <KWierso> sfink: bug 1031597 is about notifying pulse
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  1582. # [19:34] <mrbkap> bsmedberg: Could dougt review it?
  1583. # [19:35] <botond> sfink: while we were having this conversation, the tree re-opened :p
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  1590. # [19:36] <jesup> I can make a call when I get my first offer or are asked to build an offer to kick off enumeration of available codecs. Or I could try instantiating every type I know about (though that seems high overhead on every offer; I think we have better options). Tell me what I need to do and what it'll need to hook up to to produce a sane result :-)
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  1592. # [19:36] <jesup> bsmedberg: ^
  1593. # [19:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40522c4512d0 - Botond Ballo - Bug 1034376 - Avoid APZC being stuck in overscrolled state when CancelAnimation() is called during panning. r=kats
  1594. # [19:37] <sfink> KWierso: thanks. I suppose if I knew where that code was, I might implement it. But then again, I'm already distracted with too many side projects, so I'd better not.
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  1596. # [19:37] <KWierso> sfink: treestatus is on github. github.com/mozilla/treestatus iirc
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  1599. # [19:38] <botond> sfink: when you say 'pulse' do you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_%28application%29 or something else?
  1600. # [19:39] <@bsmedberg> mrbkap: yeah, I can delegate that to dougt
  1601. # [19:39] <@bsmedberg> although I don't think he knows the code
  1602. # [19:39] <@bsmedberg> Mossop might be willing, I'm not sure
  1603. # [19:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/c66e5fd06de3 - Chenxia Liu - Bug 1030113 - Regression: Menu breaks on Firefox 29+ on tablets with hardware menu. r=mfinkle, a=lmandel
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  1605. # [19:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/10b0cd0433a6 - Richard Newman - Bug 945341 - Don't fail to open Sync settings on Kindle. r=nalexander, a=lmandel
  1606. # [19:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/2a218b374b37 - Panos Astithas - Bug 8552660728e7 - Wait a turn of the event loop if CodeMirror isn't settled by the time breakpoints are being set. r=vporof, a=sledru
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  1609. # [19:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/2bedaba8b90c - Brian Nicholson - Bug 1035335 - Don't convert number query for searches. r=mfinkle, a=sledru
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  1611. # [19:40] <mrbkap> bsmedberg: Isn't Mossop on PTO right now?
  1612. # [19:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f32dd267971e - Neil Deakin - Bug 1026310, set the open state only once the opening transition is finished, rename the internal popup states to be clearer, fix UITour.jsm to check the showing state, r=MattN,neil
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  1615. # [19:40] <@bsmedberg> mrbkap: he's in my vidyo right now, so I kinda doubt it but I'm not 100% sure
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  1617. # [19:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1080f2330d51 - Neil Deakin - Bug 1027057, use correct origin for arrowpanel animations in rtl, r=dao
  1618. # [19:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c93d64f6a76a - Neil Deakin - Bug 1027057, use nsLayoutUtils::HasCurrentAnimations to check for transitions when hiding the popup, r=neil
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  1620. # [19:40] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I'm not sure why you're asking me this question
  1621. # [19:40] <mrbkap> bsmedberg: ah-ha.
  1622. # [19:40] <Mossop> mrbkap: I don't know the e10s stuff a lot but I could take a look
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  1624. # [19:40] <mrbkap> Mossop: Great, thanks a lot.
  1625. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> jesup: my only experience with this is the one patch to change GMP loading
  1626. # [19:41] <sfink> botond: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Projects/Pulse
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  1629. # [19:41] <botond> sfink: ah. makes more sense now :)
  1630. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> jesup: so I either need the question to be more detailed, or you need to ask somebody else
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  1635. # [19:42] <sfink> botond: yeah, sorry. pulsebot (in this channel) listens to the changes feed published through pulse. mrgiggles (mainly in #jsapi) listens to build results via pulse to know when to update its static analysis database. More and more things are starting to use it.
  1636. # [19:43] <jesup> bsmedberg: So, when we make a call (or answer a call), I need to know what codecs we support
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  1638. # [19:44] <jesup> bsmedberg: internally we support VP8. The question is "is there an H.264 codec available in the GMP"?
  1639. # [19:44] <@bsmedberg> jesup: sure. GMPService has the list of plugins
  1640. # [19:44] <botond> sfink: so, suppose tree status changes are published to pulse. is there a way for me to get notified about those pulse updates (and only those), much how i can follow a particular rss feed?
  1641. # [19:44] <@bsmedberg> jesup: so I assumed the methods on GMPService and/or mozIGeckoMediaPluginService could answer those questions
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  1644. # [19:45] <@bsmedberg> probably asynchronously, since that list is maintained on the GMP thread instead of the main thread
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  1646. # [19:46] <sfink> botond: sadly, I don't think we have any prebaked clients that are generally useful. (Though I could be wrong; I've only recently started paying attention to pulse.) But we could make pulsebot listen to them and announce status changes to this IRC channel.
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  1648. # [19:46] <sfink> there's a mozillapulse example client that is a good starting point
  1649. # [19:47] <sfink> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/clegnitto_mozilla.com/mozillapulse/
  1650. # [19:47] <botond> sfink: this channel is relatively noisy, though. my use case is "oh, the tree is closed. let me get notified as soon as it reopens so i can push my patch"
  1651. # [19:48] <jesup> bsmedberg: ok, that works. Do I need to re-ask it on every use, or is there a way to know if it changed?
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  1653. # [19:48] <@bsmedberg> jesup: right now I'm pretty certain we don't have an observer API
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  1656. # [19:48] <@bsmedberg> jesup: but really all you care about is the H.264 plugin, right?
  1657. # [19:48] <sfink> botond: the way I would do it is to add a command to mrgiggles that says I'm interested in getting a privmsg whenever the tree opens, optionally one time only. But that's because mrgiggles is my bot. :)
  1658. # [19:48] <jesup> bsmedberg: yes
  1659. # [19:48] <sfink> pulsebot is probably a better place for the functionality
  1660. # [19:48] <@bsmedberg> jesup: so once you get it, all you care about is whether that particular plugin goes away
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  1662. # [19:49] <sfink> I'm sure glandium would be happy to take patches. (As would I for mrgiggles.)
  1663. # [19:49] <jesup> yup. And also if it isn't there, I'd love to know not to constantly ask if it has appeared magically
  1664. # [19:49] <botond> sfink: is there a reason not to use rss?
  1665. # [19:49] <tbsaunde> botond: having pulsebot announce tree changes here seems fine he already says a bunch of stuff, and its not hard to have your client highlight or ignore
  1666. # [19:49] <KWierso> sfink: if I get some time this week, I might try hooking treestatus up to pulse
  1667. # [19:50] <sfink> botond: just that pulse seems to be our integration point of choice right now. But there's no reason not to bridge it to an rss feed.
  1668. # [19:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/692a0f99d09d - Mike Conley - Bug 1002354 - Proxy nsIScreenManager and nsIScreen's from the child process to the parent process, with caching. r=roc,jimm,smichaud,snorp.
  1669. # [19:50] <sfink> I don't have any rss clients I'm in love with, but that's mostly for lack of looking. I'm sure there are a lot more rss clients out there than amqp clients.
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  1671. # [19:51] <sfink> KWierso: thanks in advance, then!
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  1675. # [19:51] <KWierso> botond: I guess at this point, almost anything would be better than treestatus's internal DB
  1676. # [19:51] * botond uses thunderbird as an rss client
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  1678. # [19:51] <jesup> bsmedberg: worst case (especially if it's just a sync dispatch, no disk/etc hit) I can just check on the start of every use (and punt on "user removed it right in the middle of setting up a call" - it'll fail safely in that case)
  1679. # [19:52] <KWierso> in terms of getting change information out
  1680. # [19:53] <jesup> !seen nical
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  1682. # [19:53] <firebot> nical was last seen 2 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying 'Just found out Monday is a holiday in France, see you guys on Tuesday.' in #gfx.
  1683. # [19:53] <mccr8> every monday?
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  1685. # [19:53] <@khuey> it is France
  1686. # [19:53] <sfink> sounds like France
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  1690. # [19:54] <jesup> I thought all summer was a holiday in France
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  1692. # [19:55] <fabrice> almost
  1693. # [19:55] <nemo> hehe
  1694. # [19:55] <fabrice> today is Bastille Day
  1695. # [19:55] <fabrice> so I'm gonna go and cut some heads
  1696. # [19:55] <nemo> that too
  1697. # [19:56] <nemo> but, wrt nical, that's the 35 hour work week thing I guess
  1698. # [19:56] <nemo> but that's employer dependent
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  1700. # [19:56] <nemo> can just do 5 days at 7h, or whatever
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  1703. # [19:57] <nemo> fabrice: well, around the time of bastille day the terror really hadn't been imposed by Robespierre and Saint-Just
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  1706. # [19:57] <nemo> fabrice: but probably once they offed the king, momentum started heading that way
  1707. # [19:57] <fabrice1> nemo: thank you. I'm still gonna cut head
  1708. # [19:57] <fabrice1> s
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  1712. # [19:58] <nemo> heh
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  1716. # [19:58] <fabrice1> nemo: also the 35 hours rules does not apply to most people
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  1722. # [19:58] <fabrice1> it's usually more a "work N days per year"
  1723. # [19:59] <nemo> mm
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  1725. # [19:59] <fabrice1> when I used to work there I had to work 207 days in the year
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  1728. # [20:00] <nemo> fabrice1: that's not hugely different from here I guess
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  1730. # [20:01] <nemo> fabrice1: I work 236 days a year
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  1732. # [20:01] <fabrice1> nemo: 30 days is 6 weeks more of pto...
  1733. # [20:01] <jesup> bsmedberg: so will that work for 33? We could add an observer for 34 - I just want to make sure we don't add any appreciable time to responding to offers/answers (like tens/hundred+ ms). If it's hitting mainthread, of course, then it's hard to predict.
  1734. # [20:02] <nemo> fabrice1: bet I earn more than you too tho ;)
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  1738. # [20:02] <@bsmedberg> jesup: will what work? Currently the thing that doesn't work is that if the H264 plugin crashes or is user-disabled
  1739. # [20:02] <nemo> fabrice1: what's interesting is the coworkers who are direct on the contract. not working through a parent company. I was teasing them. Every day you hang out on the beach, you must think... That's like $1000 I pissed away today
  1740. # [20:02] <@bsmedberg> it's very difficult for the client code to know that
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  1743. # [20:02] <nemo> fabrice1: he says he manages to enjoy vacations anyway, but I notice he does take less ☺
  1744. # [20:03] <fabrice1> nemo: it's a balance to find. Knowing both, I'm not sure the US way is better
  1745. # [20:03] <jesup> bsmedberg: I presume GMPService can know if we disable it
  1746. # [20:03] <@bsmedberg> jesup: it's removed from the plugin list, yes
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  1748. # [20:03] <jesup> bsmedberg: and once hooked to the crashreporter, the service can know that too
  1749. # [20:04] <@bsmedberg> jesup: the crash reporting will not deal with that
  1750. # [20:04] <@bsmedberg> it will only deal with submitting the crash report
  1751. # [20:04] <nemo> fabrice1: yeah, I 'spose. Although france *is* a bit of an outlier. What do you think about stuff like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/10390571/france-hollande-taxes-socialist-farrage.html ?
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  1753. # [20:05] <nemo> fabrice1: this stuff interests me because I've often considered moving the family back. there's still a small plot of family land in south of france, but concerned about my employment prospects
  1754. # [20:07] <fabrice1> nemo: well the first paragraph "Le Monde, that bible of the French Left-leaning Establishment " is already totally wrong so I won't read more. The fact is that when things are not great, French complain a lot more than American - people in the US tend to accept their shitty situation instead
  1755. # [20:07] <jesup> bsmedberg: ok... so how do we handle plugin crashes/lockups? Put timeouts on access, and presume if it takes "too long" that its dead/locked up and re-instantiate a new one? I presumed the plugin service stuff handled that.
  1756. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> jesup: It doesn't appear to handle lockups at all
  1757. # [20:08] <@bsmedberg> jesup: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/gmp/GMPParent.cpp#247 is where you'd notice a plugin crash
  1758. # [20:08] <jesup> bsmedberg: I'd noticed it wasn't and had presumed that was part of crashreporter's job
  1759. # [20:08] <@bsmedberg> that forwards to GMPParent::UnloadProcess which calls DecodingComplete/EncodingComplete
  1760. # [20:08] <jesup> obviously wrong
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  1762. # [20:09] <nemo> fabrice1: mm ☺
  1763. # [20:09] <nemo> fabrice1: yes. strikes are a way of life there
  1764. # [20:09] <nemo> fabrice1: I'd swear there've been transportation strikes every visit I've made.
  1765. # [20:09] <fabrice1> nemo: anyway, not the place to discuss that ;)
  1766. # [20:09] <nemo> sure sure
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  1859. # [20:49] <gcp> how do try builds relate to clobber?
  1860. # [20:49] <sfink> try builds always clobber
  1861. # [20:49] <gcp> if I don't change the CLOBBER file, can I get bitten in the buttocks?
  1862. # [20:50] <RyanVM> no
  1863. # [20:50] <gcp> ok
  1864. # [20:50] <sfink> that would depend more on the insect populations in your local area
  1865. # [20:50] <KWierso> gcp: you'll only get bitten when you then push that change to the tree and it still needs a CLOBBER :)
  1866. # [20:50] <RyanVM> sfink: or if your name happens to be Forrest
  1867. # [20:51] <gcp> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8aa224675687
  1868. # [20:51] <RyanVM> sfink: so about those mochitest-dt crashes on your inbound push...
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  1870. # [20:51] <gcp> I have a random linking failure in debug builds, even though the log shows the correct lib being linked in
  1871. # [20:51] <sfink> urk?
  1872. # [20:51] <gcp> I'm a bit baffled here.
  1873. # [20:52] <RyanVM> gcp: non-unified?
  1874. # [20:52] * RyanVM notes that the busted builds are both non-unified
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  1876. # [20:52] <gcp> hmmmm
  1877. # [20:52] <gcp> the files that are involved include the relevant header, though
  1878. # [20:52] <RyanVM> gcp: --disable-unified-compliation if you want to test that theory ;)
  1879. # [20:53] <RyanVM> don't forget to cancel the Try run if you don't need it anymore
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  1883. # [20:54] <gcp> I'd love everything else to go green still
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  1886. # [20:54] <gcp> but let's test the unified theory first
  1887. # [20:55] <sfink> RyanVM: wtf? It's hard to see how that patch would change the generated code at all. It's just different ways of spelling zero!
  1888. # [20:55] <sfink> but it didn't coalesce or anything
  1889. # [20:55] <RyanVM> sfink: hrm, the build after yours is OK too
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  1891. # [20:56] <RyanVM> sfink: maybe some sort of clobber issue?
  1892. # [20:56] <sfink> but what sort? Have you looked at that patch?
  1893. # [20:56] <RyanVM> i did
  1894. # [20:56] <RyanVM> dunno, total speculation
  1895. # [20:56] <RyanVM> don't have any better ideas
  1896. # [20:57] <sfink> mind if I retrigger?
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  1899. # [20:57] <sfink> I'm just curious now
  1900. # [20:57] <RyanVM> the build or the tests?
  1901. # [20:58] <sfink> test
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  1903. # [20:58] <RyanVM> if I had to guess, the tests will continue to fail, a new build may go green
  1904. # [20:58] <RyanVM> whatever, go for it
  1905. # [20:58] <sfink> yeah, my guess is you're right
  1906. # [20:58] <RyanVM> we've seen weird things like that on OSX before
  1907. # [20:58] <RyanVM> a "bad" build somehow
  1908. # [20:59] <sfink> intermittent orange build, sorta
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  1917. # [21:06] <gcp> ac_add_options --disable-unified-compliation
  1918. # [21:06] <gcp> I don't think that's going to work.
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  1923. # [21:07] <RyanVM> gcp: what, you expect me to spellcheck myself now or something?
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  1928. # [21:07] <gcp> My faith in the sheriffs being infallible is now destroyed.
  1929. # [21:07] <RyanVM> not_gavin_not_pto
  1930. # [21:07] <RyanVM> gcp: I'm impressed it lasted this long
  1931. # [21:08] <gcp> Make-believe lets me sleep better at night.
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  1933. # [21:08] <gcp> Like, when I push just before going to bed.
  1934. # [21:09] <gcp> "We have a sheriff, it'll be ok"
  1935. # [21:09] <RyanVM> tell yourself that ;)
  1936. # [21:09] <vlad> anyone around who knows how fullscreen mode works, from a layout/css side?
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  1945. # [21:14] <mstange> vlad: As far as I know, the viewport and the fullscreened element just resize to cover the screen, without much magic
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  1948. # [21:14] <mstange> vlad: the fullscreened element also gets position:fixed set on it
  1949. # [21:14] <vlad> how does the latter part happen?
  1950. # [21:14] <vlad> the fullscreen element resizing to fit the entire screen
  1951. # [21:14] <jesup> bsmedberg: one more issue that came up in nical's review of bug 1033522 - there's a concern about possible deadlocks due to DISPATCH_SYNC usage from GMP to mainthread (for that bug) and from Mainthread to GMP (from the shutdown observer). Does this look deadlockable to you?
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  1955. # [21:15] <@bsmedberg> jesup: which shutdown observer?
  1956. # [21:15] <jesup> xpcom-shutdown
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  1959. # [21:16] <jesup> the GMP->Mainthread is SyncLaunch()
  1960. # [21:16] <mstange> vlad: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/ua.css#239
  1961. # [21:17] <mstange> vlad: there's also something that makes sure that ancestor elements don't interfere: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/full-screen-override.css#6
  1962. # [21:17] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
  1963. # [21:17] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I'm going to r- that patch in a second anyway...
  1964. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> jesup: but yeah, I didn't think the main thread ever blocked on the GMP thread
  1965. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> jesup: so we might need a bug about that
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  1968. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/92f3431bd29d - Gabriel Luong - Bug 1037446 - [rule view] Adding new rules fails when document.head is undefined. r=harth
  1969. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3d74395f47e0 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 1037411 - Set the appropriate text color for -moz-appearance: menubar. r=gijs
  1970. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a599e3c677bf - Paolo Amadini - Bug 1020865 - Implement the dialog displayed upon form.requestAutocomplete(). r=MattN
  1971. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4b08f0ea3bb6 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 1020602 - Send serialized elements to requestAutocomplete UI. r=MattN
  1972. # [21:19] <vlad> mstange: ok, perfect.. so let's say I needed to make layout think the full screen element is half the size of the screen (VR; the screen has a resolution, but each eye gets only half the screen... CSS/layout should only see a display that's the size of one eye). Not sure what the best way to do that is
  1973. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c517a17ebe6b - Brian Nicholson - Bug 1020607 - Populate pending elements with values given by requestAutocomplete UI. r=MattN
  1974. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/827f88a7eb65 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge mozilla-central to fx-team
  1975. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4565c08e0027 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 1037439 - Remove DISPLAY column from TopSitesCursorWrapper (r=rnewman)
  1976. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2cfd5b1c4759 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 1023304 - auto-add new builtin widgets in customizable areas, r=mconley
  1977. # [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ee57ae5dc806 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 1034167 - Part 1: Update TwoWayView from upstream (r=mfinkle)
  1978. # [21:20] <vlad> mstange: especially since I actually *do* need to render to the final real screen size (from the compositor, though). Hmm.
  1979. # [21:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fc0750213b61 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 1034167 - Part 2: Explicit set scrollbars in TabsTray (r=mfinkle)
  1980. # [21:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a60d23f9bfd - Andrew McCreight - Bug 1038207 - Fix various classes that reimplement nsISupports. r=ehsan
  1981. # [21:20] <jesup> bsmedberg: ok; can you give some suggestions on how to resolve the issues? Thanks. I know cpearce needs to be able to save stuff at shutdown from an active GMP
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  1986. # [21:20] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I put a comment in the bug about the synclaunch issue
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  1988. # [21:20] <@bsmedberg> jesup: please file the shutdown issue as a separate bug
  1989. # [21:21] <jesup> Ok.
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  1992. # [21:22] <mstange> vlad: tricky... which half of the screen do you want it to cover? Or will you have two fullscreen elements, one for each eye?
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  1994. # [21:22] <vlad> Only one fullscreen element, it appears to layout conceptually as a single view
  1995. # [21:22] <vlad> the per-eye stuff is handled much later in the compositor, layout should not be aware of it
  1996. # [21:23] <mstange> Then I don't really understand why you want layout to consider only one half of the screen
  1997. # [21:23] <vlad> basically, I need to tell layout "ok this is fullscreen, but the width is only half of the display resolution"
  1998. # [21:23] <ehoogeveen> RyanVM: There are still some questions that need to be answered in bug 1037772, so I think I'd feel more comfortable if you backed me out :)
  1999. # [21:24] <mstange> vlad: Will it appear that way to the user? Or will the half resolution be stretched to look to the user like it covered the whole screen?
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  2002. # [21:24] <vlad> the half resolution will be duplicated, once for each eye.. so to the user it will look like it's filling the screen/field of view
  2003. # [21:24] <vlad> (well not duplicated, rerendered, but same idea)
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  2006. # [21:25] <jesup> bsmedberg: filed bug 1038337
  2007. # [21:25] <@bsmedberg> ty
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  2010. # [21:25] <jesup> please fill in anything I didn't catch
  2011. # [21:25] <vlad> mstange: for the head mounted displays, they use a single LCD, with half of it displaying each eye.. so content effectively only has half of the resolution to render with (if that makes sense)
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  2014. # [21:26] <RyanVM> ehoogeveen: ok
  2015. # [21:26] <RyanVM> KWierso: I'll back it out with one of my merges
  2016. # [21:26] <mstange> vlad: ok, this is only about the resolution that should be used for rendering, and not for laying out the page as if the screen was half the width, right?
  2017. # [21:26] <KWierso> RyanVM: thanks
  2018. # [21:26] <vlad> mstange: so for example if the resolution of the LCD is 1280x800, each eye is only 640x800. Content should render at 640x800, and web content should only see 640x800. But that content will get rendered twice by the compositor, side by side
  2019. # [21:26] <vlad> Rather, content should only see 640x800 as its screen dimensions
  2020. # [21:26] <vlad> since that's the "effective" dimension
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  2022. # [21:27] <mstange> vlad: if so, I wouldn't do anything to layout, but only to the layer resolution, like you'd do for a scale(0.5, 1) CSS transform
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  2024. # [21:27] <mstange> huh, ok, wait
  2025. # [21:27] <vlad> mstange: other way around; I need layout to consider the half resolution for layout purposes
  2026. # [21:27] <mstange> okay
  2027. # [21:27] <mstange> interesting
  2028. # [21:28] <mstange> so if the page sees 640x800, and renders a 100x100 square
  2029. # [21:28] <mstange> this square will get rendered twice by the compositor, side-by-side
  2030. # [21:28] <vlad> right, and will look square in the final view that the user sees
  2031. # [21:28] <mstange> but won't this square be stretched to a 2:1 when it's shown to the user?
  2032. # [21:28] <mstange> huh
  2033. # [21:28] <mstange> okay
  2034. # [21:29] <vlad> mstange: think of old-school stereo images, like the kind where you put in a picture into a holder thing with two lenses in front of it
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  2036. # [21:29] <mstange> makes sense
  2037. # [21:29] <vlad> each eye only sees one half of the image, and they merge together into a final image with depth
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  2040. # [21:29] <vlad> but in this case, the hardware presents as a "monitor" with the full native resolution (e.g. the entire size of the physical picture).. and you're supposed to render the the two eyes to it together per frame, one on each half of the screen
  2041. # [21:30] <mstange> okay
  2042. # [21:30] <mstange> can you size the window to half the screen, and make the compositor extend the final rendered buffer to be twice as wide as the window?
  2043. # [21:30] <vlad> hmm, that's an interesting idea
  2044. # [21:31] <vlad> though I don't think I can, because the widget window ends up bounding the rendering implicitly
  2045. # [21:31] <vlad> (since that's all that we can render, it still just a "window" on this display device)
  2046. # [21:31] <mstange> it also ends up bounding the layout width implicitly
  2047. # [21:31] <mstange> one of these things needs to change
  2048. # [21:31] <mstange> hmm
  2049. # [21:31] <vlad> I do know that I'm going into "VR mode" when I go fullscreen
  2050. # [21:32] <vlad> so I can set additional CSS properties
  2051. # [21:32] <vlad> or even have -moz-fullscreen-vr instead of -moz-fullscreen
  2052. # [21:32] <vlad> that will do something like width: 50%
  2053. # [21:32] <mstange> well, that still wouldn't give you proper support for e.g. the vh unit
  2054. # [21:32] <mstange> er, vw
  2055. # [21:32] <mstange> if something sets width: 50vw; it should be half as wide as the viewport
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  2058. # [21:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af09948463b0 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 1024668 - Wait for initial payload event in healthreport_testRemoteCommands.html. r=wchen
  2059. # [21:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a1427a43a8f - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 815952 - Stop clearing clipboard data originating from a private window after closing private windows. r=ehsan
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  2061. # [21:33] <vlad> mstange: hmm, right
  2062. # [21:33] <vlad> mstange: so maybe I need to hack the intersection between widget resizes and layout
  2063. # [21:33] <mstange> vlad: exactly what I was about to suggest
  2064. # [21:33] <vlad> and have it hack the resize event from widget to pretend to be the 50% size if VR
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  2066. # [21:33] <mstange> I think you need to look for the callers of nsIWidget::GetClientBounds
  2067. # [21:34] <mstange> or change nsIWidget::GetClientBounds itself
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  2069. # [21:34] <vlad> *nod*
  2070. # [21:34] <vlad> this will be tricky, since the compositor is going to need the true lyrics :)
  2071. # [21:34] <mstange> true
  2072. # [21:34] <mstange> have fun ;)
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  2074. # [21:34] <vlad> Yupp :D
  2075. # [21:34] <vlad> Thanks for the pointers
  2076. # [21:35] <mstange> sure
  2077. # [21:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1b342d60245 - Dan Mosedale - Bug 1033843 Change the Loop conversation window to use React-based views. Patch by dmose and nperriault. r=Standard8
  2078. # [21:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8e45eb522ef - Mark Banner - Bug 1035831 Stop video streams fading when mousing over video in Loop. r=dmose
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  2087. # [21:39] <mjrosenb> hey, are there any sheriffs I can NI on an intermittent failure?
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  2092. # [21:42] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: is it the bug you just commented in?
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  2094. # [21:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=2a22da38a185 - 41 changesets
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  2097. # [21:47] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: yes.
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  2115. # [21:55] <gcp> RyanVM: ha, it worked, my local build fails too now
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  2117. # [21:56] <mreavy> lmandel: ping
  2118. # [21:56] <lmandel> mreavy: pong
  2119. # [21:56] <mccr8> hmm I hope I didn't break 10.8 OSX opt builds somehow...
  2120. # [21:56] <mreavy> lmandel: bug 1026072 just hit m-c. Can you review it for aurora approval? (Loop needs it.)
  2121. # [21:56] <RyanVM> gcp: nice
  2122. # [21:56] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: what did you want to ask about?
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  2125. # [21:57] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: are we actually seeing that once or twice a week?
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  2127. # [21:58] <RyanVM> if that's what TBPLbot is saying, I believe it
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  2130. # [21:59] <mjrosenb> unrelatedly, are there any volunteers that know about dates and JS that want to figure out if it is our fault that this is getting y2k'ed? http://nyctaxi.herokuapp.com/
  2131. # [21:59] <vlad> isn't it a little late for a y2k bug? :)
  2132. # [22:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3053c94b3215 - Chris Manchester - Bug 1035551 - Add an in-tree config for marionette tests.;r=ahal
  2133. # [22:00] <mjrosenb> vlad: and yet the date in firefox is tuesday, february 11th, 1913.
  2134. # [22:00] <lmandel> mreavy: bug 1026072 literally just landed. (10 mins ago) I'd like to see a successful build and try run (if applicable) on central.
  2135. # [22:00] <davidb> y2048bytes
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  2137. # [22:00] <lmandel> mreavy: I take it this impacts loop because it is an app that usese FxA. Is that correct?
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  2141. # [22:02] <mreavy> lmandel: yes
  2142. # [22:03] <lmandel> mreavy: And the impact is that loop crashes sometimes?
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  2146. # [22:03] <mreavy> lmandel: yes and sometimes the phone needs to be rebooted
  2147. # [22:03] <lmandel> mreavy: before loop can be restarted?
  2148. # [22:04] <lmandel> mreavy: Do you know how frequent "sometimes" is?
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  2151. # [22:04] <vlad> mjrosenb: weeeeird. sounds like someone is assuming a 1-based year instead of 0-based. Or taking the result of getYear() and doing % 100 on it, before adding it to 1900
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  2153. # [22:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5b0fa65110a - Monica Chew - Bug 1020485: Enable production mode for fxa (r=keeler)
  2154. # [22:05] <vlad> mjrosenb: the latter sounds possible
  2155. # [22:05] <vlad> especially if there wa sa broken Date class out there that returned a full year for getYear()
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  2157. # [22:06] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: might that be a 2038 bug of some sort? but I guess js is only doubles so that seems unlikely
  2158. # [22:06] <fitzgen> bz: DOM exception stacks landed! \o/
  2159. # [22:06] <mreavy> lmandel: I don't know how often. I know the Loop mobile app folks have seen the problem more than once in their testing. I don't believe they kept count.
  2160. # [22:06] <lmandel> mreavy: OK. Good enough I guess.
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  2162. # [22:06] <lmandel> mreavy: Can you have the loop mobile app folks test the fix if they haven't done so already?
  2163. # [22:07] <mreavy> lmandel: yep, absolutely. I can ping them and get it verified.
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  2165. # [22:07] <mreavy> lmandel: thanks!
  2166. # [22:07] <NeilAway> mccr8: how did you find those classes that reimplement nsISupports?
  2167. # [22:07] <lmandel> mreavy: Great. I'll feel much better about approving knowing that the fix is good.
  2168. # [22:08] <mreavy> lmandel: yep, I'll make sure we get verification ASAP
  2169. # [22:08] <mjrosenb> so, based on discussion in another channel, it sounds like this (may) be a bug in moment, where it calls firefox's date operator which is doing the wrong thing?
  2170. # [22:08] <mccr8> NeilAway: I added a debugonly final virtual method to the macros that declare an mRefCnt field
  2171. # [22:08] <mccr8> NeilAway: you can see the code in bug 895502, in nsISupportsImpl.h
  2172. # [22:09] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: vlad: ^
  2173. # [22:10] <rbarnes> bz: ping
  2174. # [22:11] <kbrosnan> mjrosenb: https://github.com/moment/moment/issues/1407
  2175. # [22:12] <kbrosnan> mjrosenb: that is what is printed to the console when loading the app. i suspect that has to do with getting y2k'ed
  2176. # [22:12] <NeilAway> mccr8: ah, neat
  2177. # [22:13] <mconley> !seen dao
  2178. # [22:13] <firebot> dao was last seen 7 weeks, 3 days, 6 minutes and a couple of seconds ago, saying 'I'll still be around for some time' in #fx-team.
  2179. # [22:13] <RyanVM> mccr8: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/slave.html?name=bld-lion-r5-008 doesn't look overly sterling, fwiw
  2180. # [22:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=2bb155ee786b - 52 changesets
  2181. # [22:14] <mccr8> RyanVM: what is that?
  2182. # [22:14] <RyanVM> the health of the OSX build slave that burned your build
  2183. # [22:14] <RyanVM> look at the last 100
  2184. # [22:14] <mccr8> RyanVM: oh ok, so it is probably just the build slave?
  2185. # [22:14] <RyanVM> that's my bet
  2186. # [22:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=2bb155ee786b - 52 changesets
  2187. # [22:14] <mccr8> ok cool. I did touch one JAR file so I figured there was a remote chance I broke something. ;)
  2188. # [22:15] <mccr8> I will consider it no further then unless notified.
  2189. # [22:15] <mjrosenb> is it not specified how Date parses strings? :-(
  2190. # [22:16] <vlad> mjrosenb: the string that is being passed in is "3/1/13 1:10"
  2191. # [22:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/pushloghtml?changeset=2bb155ee786b - 93 changesets
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  2193. # [22:16] <vlad> mjrosenb: we parse that as 1913, Chrome parses it as 2013
  2194. # [22:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=a4d962f5f076 - 65 changesets
  2195. # [22:17] <vlad> Chrome has heuristics -- it parses "3/1/93 1:10" as 1993
  2196. # [22:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/6ac0f97c0c09 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 1037030 - Fix ContactManager.js permission prompting. r=gwagner
  2197. # [22:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a6ecd3131b8a - Mark Finkle - Bug 1037128 - Regression: Contact API usage is being prompt on webpages r=fabrice
  2198. # [22:17] <mjrosenb> vlad: indeed! I'm just kind of surprised that it isn't specified.
  2199. # [22:17] <vlad> looks like if < 50, it's 2000+. if it's >= 50, then it's 1900+
  2200. # [22:17] <vlad> er, if <= 50 and > 50
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  2202. # [22:17] <vlad> which sort of makes sense, given that it's ambiguous anyway.. at least that has a chance of being what the developer wanted
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  2205. # [22:18] <mjrosenb> it just looks bad when something that is on the front page of hn starts displaying numbers taht are off by a century
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  2213. # [22:22] <jcranmer> vlad: ISO8601 date strings are guaranteed to be parsed correctly
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  2215. # [22:23] <jcranmer> outside of that, RFC 822-ish dates are effectively always parsed correctly (module 2-digit years)
  2216. # [22:23] <vlad> jcranmer: yeah, we have a difference in behaviour between us and chrome though
  2217. # [22:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f25f3ccb7b3 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 1037869 - Fix remaining Latin1 string issues. r=terrence
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  2219. # [22:24] <jcranmer> using 2 digit years should be punishable by death
  2220. # [22:24] <vlad> sure :) and yet...
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  2223. # [22:24] <jcranmer> so should using numeric values for months and not using unambiguous notation like YYYY-MM-DD
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  2226. # [22:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e57b6ac03f4d - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  2228. # [22:25] <jcranmer> of course, the idiot who said that January has a numeric value of 0 in Posix's date API should be shot
  2229. # [22:25] <jcranmer> and the idiots who translated that failure to dozens of other languages should also be shot
  2230. # [22:26] <vlad> there's a whole lotta shooting going on here
  2231. # [22:26] <vlad> :)
  2232. # [22:26] <tbsaunde> its fairly well deserved though
  2233. # [22:26] <jcranmer> well, lethal injection is an acceptable alternative
  2234. # [22:26] <jcranmer> although I think drawn and quartering is preferable in this scenario
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  2236. # [22:27] <hub> jcranmer: it is inhumane. I recommend the guillotine
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  2238. # [22:28] <hub> on that day it is quite appropriate
  2239. # [22:28] <jcranmer> hub: yes, well, the problems caused by 2-digit years are equally inhumane
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  2242. # [22:30] <Mossop> gps: Who should I talk to about making the build system support tests generated in the objdir?
  2243. # [22:30] <gps> Mossop: email to dev-builds
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  2245. # [22:30] <hub> jcranmer: you know when Yahoo! think I am 13 yr old, that I joined on January 1st 1970 and that there is nothing wrong with that data, one wonder....
  2246. # [22:30] <hub> jcranmer: dates are hard
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  2403. # [23:38] <bjacob> ehsan: ping
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  2406. # [23:38] <@ehsan> bjacob: I thought you're on PTO!
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  2409. # [23:38] <bjacob> ehsan: i am mostly on PTO. i took 4 hours only as i would be working some yesterday and today.
  2410. # [23:38] <@ehsan> ah ok
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  2412. # [23:39] <@ehsan> bjacob: then pong :)
  2413. # [23:39] <bjacob> ehsan: question: if I have an "important nit", given the number of patches, should I r- or r+withnits?
  2414. # [23:39] <@ehsan> bjacob: r- if you want to look at updated patches, r+ otherwise
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  2416. # [23:40] <bjacob> ehsan: ok, r+ then. basically: for virtual non-final classes, I'm going to ask that you make the dtor virtual, EVEN if the implicit dtor that was generated before was not (that was unintentional). Makes sense?
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  2419. # [23:41] <@ehsan> bjacob: what's the point of doing that?
  2420. # [23:41] <@ehsan> bjacob: (assuming the dtor is private)
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  2422. # [23:42] <bjacob> ehsan: the point is if the class is subclassed then even if Release() is the only thing calling the dtor, we could still not be safe, if it calls the wrong dtor?
  2423. # [23:42] <@ehsan> bjacob: if the dtor is private, you cannot subclass the class
  2424. # [23:42] <bjacob> ehsan: *oh*
  2425. # [23:42] <bjacob> that is true
  2426. # [23:43] <@ehsan> bjacob: so here's an r- for your r- :P
  2427. # [23:43] <bjacob> ehsan: then i'm going to ask that you mark the class MOZ_FINAL, as what you just described is another implicit way of making a class final, and i'd rather have it explicit then
  2428. # [23:43] <@ehsan> bjacob: no that would be the wrong thing to do
  2429. # [23:44] <@ehsan> bjacob: because the class may not be final semantically
  2430. # [23:44] <@ehsan> bjacob: whoever decides they want to derive from it will need to adjust the visibility of the dtor and potentially making it virtual as well
  2431. # [23:45] <dholbert> ehsan, when someone decides to inherit from a class that has refcounting, they have to think very carefully about what they're doing
  2432. # [23:45] <bjacob> ehsan: visibility tends to be unintentional and change unintentionally due to 1) c++ making it a scope thing so it can change just from moving things around in a class, and 2) our usage of various macros that hide visibility changes
  2433. # [23:45] <@ehsan> dholbert: yes
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  2437. # [23:46] <dholbert> ehsan, (so, multiple hurdles -- the explicit MOZ_FINAL and the private destructor -- may be a good thing)
  2438. # [23:46] <@ehsan> bjacob: so?
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  2440. # [23:46] <bjacob> ehsan: for that reason, i feel much more comfortable about relying on finalness if it's enforced by MOZ_FINAL, than if it is a corollary of maybe-unintentional, maybe-changing-at-any-time visibility
  2441. # [23:46] <@ehsan> dholbert: I don't think so, final classes _mean_ something
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  2443. # [23:46] <@ehsan> dholbert: they mean this class is not designed to be derived from
  2444. # [23:47] <@ehsan> bjacob: the point is, private dtor != final
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  2446. # [23:47] <bjacob> ehsan: i feel that this conversation would go much faster over coffee tomorrow. Is it OK to wait until then?
  2447. # [23:47] <@ehsan> bjacob: sure
  2448. # [23:48] <@ehsan> bjacob: food for thought until then, you can create an instance of a final class on the stack, but not if the class has a private dtor
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  2452. # [23:49] <bjacob> ehsan: for sure
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  2455. # [23:49] <dholbert> ehsan, (IMHO, it may be more useful to have the opposite semantics; non-MOZ_FINAL = designed to be subclassed from, whereas MOZ_FINAL = otherwise)
  2456. # [23:49] <@ehsan> dholbert: there is no "designed to be subclassed from" in C++
  2457. # [23:50] <dholbert> ehsan, (that's kind of how I think about it, anyway, and it's a useful way to label classes as "potentially dangerous to subclass from", which sounds like it is the case here (w/o the virtual destructor))
  2458. # [23:50] <@ehsan> dholbert: lack of final doesn't mean that, it just means the author didn't think about this ;)
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  2465. # [23:53] <dholbert> ehsan, anyway, going with your definition where MOZ_FINAL = "not designed to be subclassed"
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  2467. # [23:54] <dholbert> ehsan, I'd argue that "has AddRef/Release implementations and a non-virtual destructor" fits that description
  2468. # [23:54] <@ehsan> dholbert: nope, we have explicit support for deriving from those classes
  2469. # [23:55] <dholbert> not with a non-virtual destructor, we don't
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  2472. # [23:55] <@ehsan> dholbert: ah right, yes you'd need a virtual dtor
  2473. # [23:56] <dholbert> ehsan, my point is, it fits the category of class-that-you-need-to-tweak-a-bit-before-subclassing-from, which means it's not currently designed to be subclassed
  2474. # [23:56] <@ehsan> dholbert: I guess we have different semantic definitions for final
  2475. # [23:56] <dholbert> (the tweaks may be minimal, but they're important to get right, which means whoever subclasses the class better know what they're doing)
  2476. # [23:56] <@ehsan> to me final doesn't mean think more, it means don't
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  2478. # [23:57] <@ehsan> dholbert: IOW, if I see a class marked as final, I will not look for ways to derive from it
  2479. # [23:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0bc4b2de1f95 - Michael Comella - Bug 1021356 - Empty private tabs panel visual refinements.
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  2482. # [23:58] <tbsaunde> ehsan: you won't consider it even if its obviously the only reasonable solution?
  2483. # [23:58] <seth> PSA: if you're using MQ and you're not using 'hg qcrecord', you should check it out
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  2487. # [23:59] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: that's besides the poiont
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  2490. # [23:59] <tbsaunde> ehsan: how?
  2491. # [23:59] <tbsaunde> my point is there's no absoultes here
  2492. # [23:59] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: in that case we're talking about changing the design of the class
  2493. # [23:59] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: I am not talking about absolutes here, we're talking about a specific case
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