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# Session Start: Thu Jul 31 00:00:01 2014
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# [00:00] <jesup> heycam: thanks
# [00:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45c27b13ba12 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1034345 (Part 1) - Add OptimalImageSizeForDest to the imgIContainer interface. r=tn,sr=bz
# [00:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2201890b1c3d - Seth Fowler - Bug 1034345 (Part 2) - Implement OptimalImageSizeForDest for RasterImage. r=tn
# [00:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46afb11b77a2 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1034345 (Part 3) - Implement OptimalImageSizeForDest for VectorImage. r=dholbert
# [00:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0f1d2855ea8 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1034345 (Part 4) - Implement OptimalImageSizeForDest for other image types. r=tn
# [00:01] <jesup> dmajor: I hear you have an XP machine in a faraday cage to protect it from hackers
# [00:01] <jesup> or at least an XP machien
# [00:02] <jesup> That #include line is irreleveant - bustage fix coming
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# [00:03] <jesup> heycam: RyanVM|afk : ^
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# [00:03] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/626130756ccf - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Move a comment to more appropriate spot, in SVGTransformableElement.h. comment/whitespace-only, DONTBUILD
# [00:04] <dmajor> jesup: that particular machine doesn't run XP :) though I do have an XP VM elsewhere
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# [00:06] <heycam> if I do a printf_stderr, will the output be visible in the logs on try?
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# [00:07] <jesup> Pushing bustage fix
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# [00:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eed9b58c0ce3 - Randell Jesup - Bug 1043808: bustage fix for #includes that didn't get deleted r=bustage
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# [00:08] <sicking> jesup: so we've been looking at a spec for opening pages on a remote screen. Think browsing to youtube and then having youtube open the actual video on your TV
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# [00:09] <jesup> sicking: shades of Chromecast/DIAL
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# [00:09] <sicking> jesup: there would be a prompt involved of course, and it'd be the browser that does the detecting of if there are nearby screens etc
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# [00:09] <sicking> jesup: indeed. We're working with google people that work on chromecast (not sure if they are on the chromecast team or not technically)
# [00:10] <sicking> jesup: so one thing that we'd like to do is to enable the page that's running on the TV to talk with the page that opened the TV-page. So that the youtube page on your device can render pause/play buttons for example
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# [00:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1622eb8d6fc - Randell Jesup - Bug 1037424: Fix typo in checkin for allowed_domains r=ehugg
# [00:11] <jesup> sicking: ok. Very much the Chromecast usecase (whichis a useful one)
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# [00:12] <sicking> jesup: using the RTCDataChannel interface for this seemed like an ideal solution. Since that's already optimized for supporting serializable types, and is optimized for high-speed network communication
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# [00:13] <jesup> sicking: sure. You need to probe somehow to find partners, then you can create a PeerConnection with a single reliable datachannel (or multiple, doesn't matter)
# [00:13] <sicking> jesup: for now the spec won't define a network protocol since there's little faith that we can convince hardware vendors to implement anything. But my plan is to do what we're doing for push, to define an API first to give the spec momentum, and then do a defined network protocol later
# [00:14] <sicking> jesup: my hope was to reuse a bunch of WebRTC stuff for the network protocol too once that gets defiend
# [00:14] <jesup> sicking: which network protocol are you referring to? on the datachannel, or for session establishment/searching?
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# [00:15] <sicking> jesup: to get interoperability we need to eventually define network protocols for both session establishment/searching, as well as the communication channel once the two sides are connected
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# [00:15] <jesup> sicking: and since it's in theory local lan, you don't need to traverse NATs, whcih simplifies the setup (just peerreflexives I'd guess)
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# [00:16] <sicking> jesup: but for now nothing will be defined regarding network
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# [00:16] <sicking> jesup: but my hope was that reuseing webrtc interfaces for communication means that we can reuse that for datachannel network protocol as well once we get there
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# [00:16] <sicking> jesup: and hopefully we can reuse other things, like DIAL, for session establishment/searching
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# [00:17] <jesup> Sounds like webrtc will simply work for the communications part of this. Just need to define what you want to put on the channel(s)
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# [00:18] <sicking> jesup: so that's my question to you. What webrtc interface should we hand to each page?
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# [00:18] <sicking> i was thinking handing them an RTCDataChannel? But maybe PeerConnection is better?
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# [00:19] <jesup> There's no such thing as a raw RTCDataChannel. It needs something to run over to set it up (a PeerConnection)
# [00:20] <sicking> jesup: well, technically we could do the setup before handing the channel to the page
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# [00:20] <sicking> jesup: that doesn't mean it's a good idea of course
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# [00:20] <jesup> But once created, you have an object (which is duck-typed to WebSockets largely, at least for reliable channels)
# [00:21] <sicking> exactly
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# [00:21] <jesup> The only part here that's in any way complex or requires something new is the "search for peers" part
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# [00:22] <sicking> jesup: well.. that and having TVs which have the ability to render arbitrary webpages. Apparently not even chromecast can really do that
# [00:22] <sicking> jesup: so looking at RTCPeerConnection, there's a lot of cruft on there that wouldn't be relevant here
# [00:23] <jesup> Chromecast uses webrtc to send images of tabs/etc to the device
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# [00:25] <jesup> sicking: does that matter? ALso, note that you can build more-or-less standalone webrtc clients from webrtc.org code without needing a full browser. Not sure that includes datachannels though.... (yet)
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# [00:25] <sicking> jesup: well.. the point here is to render a webpage on the TV. You need a full browser for that
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# [00:26] <jesup> sicking ok, sure
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# [00:27] <sicking> jesup: extra cruft tends to always cause problems
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# [00:28] <sicking> jesup: and it needs to be defined what it does, even if we don't expect anyone to use it
# [00:28] <sicking> jesup: like, what does updateIce do here?
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# [00:28] <sicking> jesup: and what does localDescription/remoteDescription return?
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# [00:29] <jesup> I can show you the IETF specs in glorious detail if you like ;-)
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# [00:29] <jesup> but largely it's opaque to the application in most uses
# [00:30] <jesup> SDP call setup media negotiation
# [00:30] <sicking> jesup: well.. if we want to use RTCPeerConnection we'd need to put into the spec how these things behave here
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# [00:32] <jesup> sure... So I think this is a totally straightforward use of an RTCPeerConnection and the existing stuff for using them. And can leverage libraries of code for interacting with them to boot. Doubly so since from your simple description of the usecase you don't need media channels.
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# [00:33] <jesup> See some toys at http://webrtc-experiment.com
# [00:33] <jesup> Even stuff that lets both sides transform a DOM live
# [00:33] <jesup> IIRC
# [00:33] <sicking> jesup: well.. the people that were resitent to defining a network protocol will probably be concerned that the API is so big
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# [00:36] <Noah> jesup: bah! sorry about last night. got sidetracked. I've got the latest nightly and am about to test screensharing for you
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# [00:36] <jesup> sicking: do they want a browser, or a subset? I'm confused why this would be an issue. You *could* re-invent the wheel, and set up raw DataChannels over some other sort of connection (the protocol and code is somewhat portable to other uses). But lots of work, and in the end you end up with an incompatible subset of a Webrtc PeerConnection.
# [00:36] <Noah> unless someone has already beaten me to the punch?
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# [00:37] <jesup> Noah! you rock, thanks!
# [00:37] <Noah> sure! no prob! :D
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# [00:40] <jesup> sicking: you want to chat about it in realtime?
# [00:41] <sicking> jesup: in meeting
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# [00:42] <jesup> sicking: ok. We can chat more in IRC later, or Vidyo (or Loop!)
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# [00:53] <jimm> jesup: ping
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# [00:53] <jesup> jimm: pong
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# [00:55] <jimm> jesup: hey, I got a crash in the parent that looks unrelated - https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5719068
# [00:55] <jimm> jesup: known/filed?
# [00:55] <jesup> looking
# [00:56] <jimm> I'm restarting, we'll see if it happens again. That was after about five minutes of run time on that demo.
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# [00:57] <jesup> jimm: that's new, please report
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# [00:57] <jesup> jimm: inbound, or m-c, or nightly?
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# [00:58] <jimm> hmm, a pull from a day or so ago
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# [00:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e61d27c454a4 - Chris Kitching - Bug 1045950: Dereference pointers in AndroidBridge:InitCamera r=kats
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# [00:59] <jesup> jimm: should be ok; tip rev?
# [00:59] <jimm> I'm pulling from mc now, will test off that.
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# [01:00] <jesup> jimm: those line numbers are off from what I see on inbound...
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# [01:01] <jesup> and I don't think we've touched that file (media_optimization) since May
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# [01:02] <jimm> i'll test again off mc tip, see if I can reproduce.
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# [01:03] <jesup> jimm: looking at the code and stack: best bet is that it's collateral damage from the IPC/UAF/etc stuff
# [01:03] <jesup> hold off on filing, probably
# [01:03] <jimm> jesup: sometimes the main video windows in that demo don't display anything. is that a bug?
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# [01:03] <jesup> they should always display something
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# [01:04] <jimm> I get the little inset windows, those always work
# [01:04] <jesup> Use the latest m-c, and then let's see
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# [01:04] <jesup> the insets are your local image, before encoding
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# [01:07] <Noah> jesup: ok I got a doorhanger, what do I select on it?
# [01:07] <Noah> I clicked "screen" btw on the github page
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# [01:08] <Noah> and does media.getusermedia.screensharing.enabled require a browser restart after setting it?
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# [01:09] <jesup> no restart needed
# [01:09] <jesup> noah ^T
# [01:09] <@khuey> dmajor: do we have builds built with a newer version of VS anywhere?
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# [01:09] <@khuey> or do we not have any automation for that yet?
# [01:09] <jesup> afk intermittedly. Try window and screen sharing if you can. thanks!
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# [01:10] <Noah> jesup: cool, will do
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# [01:12] <dmajor> khuey: we're working on enabling it
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# [01:12] <@khuey> dmajor: are there any test builds or anything?
# [01:12] <@khuey> dmajor: basically I've got someone I need to give a debug build too
# [01:12] <@khuey> and he has the debug CRT for 2012 and 2013
# [01:12] <@khuey> but not 2010
# [01:12] <@khuey> so I can't give him our normal debug builds
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# [01:13] <jesup|mac> noah/jimm: on from here
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# [01:14] <Noah> jesup|mac: cool. just tried it and I just scared myself :P
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# [01:14] <Noah> literally the whole display went into a weird mode
# [01:14] <jesup|mac> oh?
# [01:14] <Noah> the mouse kept flickering
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# [01:14] <Noah> about once every second
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# [01:15] <Noah> and the CPU was steady at about 92
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# [01:15] <jesup|mac> ok... some of the APIs used for later OS's ren't on XP, I know
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# [01:15] <Noah> jesup|mac: so it was slowing down the system a bit
# [01:16] <dmajor> khuey: we don't (yet) have an automated way to build one, unless jlund can give you a sneak preview of the results from bug 1009807
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# [01:16] <@khuey> dmajor: ok
# [01:16] <@khuey> ty
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# [01:16] <Noah> jesup|mac: then I noticed there was another unseen firefox window and that window was the screensharing and it was completely blue.
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# [01:17] <Noah> couldn't interact with it at all
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# [01:17] <Noah> though this pc may have more than one thing against it. 1) I had to put a extremely old graphics card in it after the other one got fried :P
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# [01:18] <Noah> 2) it has about 512 MB of ram but it still fights on like a champ :P
# [01:18] <jesup|mac> Noah: not sure I parsed that... "that window was the screensharing"
# [01:18] <jesup|mac> Ouch. I'm amazed it worked
# [01:18] <Noah> indeed am I :D
# [01:18] <jesup|mac> 16MB is enough for anyone ;-)
# [01:18] <Noah> nightly on startup instantly uses 172 MB of ram
# [01:19] <Noah> haha
# [01:19] <jesup|mac> What dx version is running?
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# [01:19] <jesup|mac> and is this SP3?
# [01:19] <Noah> ah good question
# [01:19] <Noah> SP2 but if it works well on here then I would bet money that it would work even better on SP3
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# [01:19] <jesup|mac> If the GFX drivers are years out of date, then I'm not sure what it tells us. SP2 isn't horrid
# [01:20] <Noah> can the dx version be derived from about:support?
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# [01:20] <jesup|mac> probably
# [01:20] <jesup|mac> at least by mattwoodrow ;-)
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# [01:22] <Noah> lol
# [01:22] <Noah> jesup|mac: ok I see: Direct2D Enabled Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.
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# [01:23] <Noah> DirectWrite Enabled false (0.0.0.0)
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# [01:23] <Noah> and not surpringsly: GPU Accelerated Windows 0/1 Basic Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.
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# [01:23] <Noah> does screensharing need any of that? :P
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# [01:24] <jesup|mac> Noah: honestly, not sure. I'll have to see what it uses. Was there any difference between window and screen sharing?
# [01:24] <jesup|mac> Say share a calculator
# [01:25] <Noah> jesup|mac: ah well here's what happened: I could still see the github page in my firefox browser
# [01:25] <jesup|mac> we *may* end up blocking window/screen sharing on XP, at least for now (hopefully longer!) But if it works...
# [01:25] <Noah> but I wasn't sure what was supposed to happen
# [01:26] <Noah> b/c the mouse kept flickering wildly
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# [01:26] <Noah> although I'd really like to blame the graphics card on this pc instead of XP itself
# [01:26] <jesup|mac> should see an image in the center of the pge with what you shared
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# [01:27] <Noah> ah odd
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# [01:27] <sicking> jesup: done with meeting. Free to vidyo?
# [01:28] <sicking> jesup|mac: ^
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# [01:28] <jimm> ted: you around?
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# [01:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6eded676da83 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 980934 (part 2) - MFBT: Remove the excessively frequent coherency checks from SplayTree. r=froydnj.
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# [01:29] <Noah> jesup|mac: hmm to be sure I'm doing this right, I should try either the screen or window buttons on the github page correct?
# [01:29] <jesup> yes
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# [01:29] <Noah> after doing that, then I answer "entire screen" in the doorhanger when prompted for permission?
# [01:29] <jesup> they should move down; a 640x480 image appears with Success below it
# [01:30] <jesup> yes, for entire screen.
# [01:30] <Noah> ahh! alright
# [01:30] <jesup> For window, you shouild be offered a list
# [01:30] <Noah> and choosing the other option would effectively cancel the request?
# [01:30] <jesup> sicking: yes. Where?
# [01:30] <sicking> jesup: your vidyo room?
# [01:30] <jesup> sure
# [01:30] <Noah> jesup|mac: "No window or screen" I mean
# [01:30] <jesup> yes
# [01:31] <Noah> cool got it
# [01:31] <Noah> jesup: what it looks like is, that instead of pushing those buttons down. screensharing opens a separate window outside of that and does nothing to the github page
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# [01:34] <jesup> weird
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# [01:34] <Noah> jesup: that was for entire screen sharing but success!
# [01:35] <Noah> the window feature works!
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# [01:35] <Noah> I see calculator in the browser :D
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# [01:35] <Noah> \o/
# [01:35] <jesup> noah: cool
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# [01:35] <Noah> complete with the Success! message underneath hehe
# [01:35] <Noah> anything else I should try?
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# [01:36] <Noah> tried sharing another window, this time a notepad file. that worked great as well :)
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# [01:37] <Noah> pausing the shared window makes the window disappear in the view and clicking play brings it back instantly
# [01:37] <jesup> excellent
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# [01:38] <Noah> looks like someone with a better graphics card will have to test the screensharing portion as I suspect that's what's causing my havoc :P
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# [01:39] <Noah> if I do snapshot, will it offer to save a screenshot wherever I want?
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# [01:40] <Noah> ok snapshot works too :D
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# [01:40] <Noah> it added them to the side of the page, not sure what they do though
# [01:40] <Noah> or if they are saved locally on my drive now
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# [01:41] <jesup> just in the DOM
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# [01:42] <Noah> ah yeah, viewing them they show up as data: uris
# [01:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/436cc8abfda3 - Bas Schouten - Bug 947781 - Part 1: Refactor RotatedBuffer to easily be re-usable for any rotated buffer drawing. r=mattwoodrow
# [01:42] <Noah> but they appear as very small thumbnails
# [01:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6346e96ceac0 - Bas Schouten - Bug 947781 - Part 2: Add the ability to readback texture data to TextureClient. r=nical
# [01:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/881f358bc39e - Bas Schouten - Bug 947781 - Part 3: Do not transmit layer types that are unshadowed over the IPDL protocol. r=nical
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# [01:52] <NeilAway> bah, why is the build system so arcane?
# [01:52] <froydnj> because it does a bunch of stuff
# [01:52] <glandium> NeilAway: because it's 15+ years old make stuff
# [01:53] <NeilAway> glandium: actually it's python that's failing for me
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# [01:55] <froydnj> whoa, whoa, did seth get his patches in? unacceptable!
# [01:56] <glandium> froydnj: ?
# [01:56] <seth> froydnj: shh, don't tell RyanVM =)
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# [01:57] <tbsaunde> glandium: just kidding from earlier
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# [01:59] <NeilAway> glandium: dependentlibs was recursing until it hit some sort of OS error
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# [02:00] <glandium> NeilAway: memory error ?
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# [02:00] <NeilAway> glandium: some sort file error I think it was
# [02:01] <glandium> NeilAway: file in use?
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# [02:10] <NeilAway> glandium: also, I've clobbered, because libmozgnome.so doesn't want to link, although the command line is identical to one that does link
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# [03:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb2457c3f9b3 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1046282 part 2: Drop unnecessary else-after-return in EMEDecoderModule.cpp. r=rillian
# [03:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b20c7a46fca - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1046282 part 3: Use nsRefPtr instead of RefPtr for DecoderData::mDecoder (and mTaskQueue, for consistency & good measure). r=rillian r=cpearce
# [03:45] <mconley> froydnj: ping
# [03:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17bbd05e72d7 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1046282 part 4: Make Create*Decoder functions return already_AddRefed. r=rillian
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# [03:46] <mconley> or njn: ping
# [03:46] <@njn> mconley: why hello there
# [03:46] <mconley> njn: well hello there!
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# [03:47] <mconley> njn: I wrote a patch to fix the DOM fullscreen API for e10s, but on a try push, I appear to be leaking somehow
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# [03:47] <mconley> njn: I cannot seem to reproduce these leaks locally
# [03:47] <mconley> njn: example: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c0b6a2c2fc0e
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# [03:48] <mconley> njn: am I right when I say that it's unlikely I'd be able to get a useful DMD log from a mochitest running on a debug build on try?
# [03:49] <@njn> mconley: I wouldnt' assume that, though froydnj is the expert on the DMD+mochitest combination
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# [03:49] <@njn> mconley: can you do a DMD build locally and try to reproduce there?
# [03:50] <mconley> njn: well, I've had no luck reproducing the leak locally so far, running the entire bc1 mochitest-1 suites (I'm not sure how to run "other"...)
# [03:50] <@njn> ah
# [03:52] <@njn> mconley: you might get a useful log if you can actually enable DMD on try... I'm not sure how to do that
# [03:52] <@njn> --dmd is the option for |mach mochitest-whatever|
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# [03:53] <mconley> njn: and that'll dump the DMD log to the... er, log? Or does it do our special aws blob uploading thing?
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# [03:53] <@njn> mconley: good question; I have no idea
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# [03:53] <@njn> sorry
# [03:53] <mconley> njn: heh, no worries. froydnj: halp
# [03:53] <@njn> yeah, you really want froydnj for this stuff
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# [04:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b1db2580d3cd - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [04:36] <froydnj> mconley: yo
# [04:37] <mconley> froydnj: yo!
# [04:37] <mconley> froydnj: what's the best way to debug a leak that you're seeing on try that you, for some reason, cannot reproduce locally?
# [04:37] <froydnj> mconley: can't reproduce with the binaries from try, or from locally-compiled binaries?
# [04:37] <mconley> froydnj: locally compiled
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# [04:38] <@khuey> depends on what you're leaking
# [04:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92fd9d6f01f8 - Kyle Huey - Bug 1045390: Add a MOZ_FINAL annotation to RIDThreadPoolListener. r=cyu
# [04:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4aa2bbde64ca - Kyle Huey - Bug 1045390: Add a MOZ_FINAL annotation to STSThreadPoolListener. r=cyu
# [04:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/299094e66ea0 - Kyle Huey - Bug 1046000: Shut down the wifi services. r=vchang
# [04:38] * froydnj can just hear gps yelling about docker containers right about now
# [04:39] <mconley> heh
# [04:39] <froydnj> mconley: you can't repro any of those leaks?
# [04:39] <mconley> froydnj: at this time, no - I'm trying again in my VM in case I somehow screwed it up last time
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# [04:40] <mconley> and that'll take a good 70 minutes or so
# [04:40] <mconley> but hey, I've got sandwiches
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# [04:40] <froydnj> mconley: might try with the try binaries on your local machine
# [04:40] <froydnj> that would at least save compiling
# [04:40] <mconley> khuey: apparently, I'm leaking a ton of stuff. here's the log: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=44840303&tree=Try&full=1
# [04:40] <mconley> froydnj: good point
# [04:40] <froydnj> I guess debug info and whatnot might be a pain to setup
# [04:41] <mconley> though I'm not entirely sure I know how to run mochitests on builds that I didn't build myself...
# [04:41] <mconley> is there a document on that somewhere?
# [04:41] <@khuey> 5 MB
# [04:41] <@khuey> not bad
# [04:41] <froydnj> mochitests has some --use-this-binary flag
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# [04:41] <@khuey> and I thought the 400K b2g leaks is bad
# [04:41] <froydnj> though, hm, what about all the other tools it requires
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# [04:41] <@khuey> "leaked 14 nsGlobalWindow"
# [04:42] <@khuey> nice
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# [04:42] <mconley> khuey: yeah, go big or go home
# [04:42] <@khuey> mconley: what did you change?
# [04:42] <mconley> khuey: I'm attempting to fix the DOM fullscreen API for e10s
# [04:42] <mconley> khuey: in so doing, I had to re-jig AsyncEventDispatcher a little
# [04:42] <@khuey> ah
# [04:42] <@khuey> fun
# [04:42] <mconley> yeah, it's good times. :)
# [04:42] <froydnj> ooo, that sounds like good times
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# [04:42] <mconley> :D
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# [04:43] <mconley> actually, I'm digging this e10s stuff
# [04:43] <mconley> glad to get my hands in native code
# [04:43] <mconley> I feel like I have super powers
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# [04:43] <nigelb> morning
# [04:44] <mconley> nigelb: 'mornin!
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# [04:44] <@khuey> mconley: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/5387
# [04:44] <mconley> hehehe
# [04:45] <nigelb> argh, we put the cashservice hang test back in :(
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# [04:45] <nigelb> khuey: haha
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# [04:45] <@khuey> the cashservice?
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# [04:46] <@khuey> Cc["@mozilla.org/cashservice;1"].getService(Ci.nsICashService).putCashIntoAccount(khuey.bankAccount, UINT64_MAX);
# [04:46] <@khuey> see you suckers later
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# [04:47] <nigelb|sheriffduty> Oh know, you made an off-by-one error and suddenly you have a *lot* of moeny.
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# [04:48] <davidb> gotta watch out for cashreporter though
# [04:48] <@khuey> hmm
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# [04:48] <@khuey> did Tomcat|afk forget to mark a merge?
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# [04:48] <@khuey> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1038617#c9
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# [04:50] <@khuey> mconley: the easiest thing to do is probably bisect the patch queue
# [04:50] <@khuey> if they can stand alone
# [04:50] * mconley sighs
# [04:50] <mconley> khuey: yeah, I think you're probably right
# [04:50] <mconley> khuey / froydnj / njn: thanks for the consult. :)
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# [04:52] <@khuey> ah nice, 500s on hg.m.o
# [04:52] <@khuey> so I can't even read mconley's patches :P
# [04:52] <mconley> yeah, hg is crappin' out on me too
# [04:52] <mconley> hg.m.o, that is
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# [04:52] <mconley> khuey: they're in bug 961362 fwiw
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# [04:53] <froydnj> mconley: next time I will try to give a better consult :)
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# [04:53] <mconley> naw, I got good info out of this
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# [04:55] <mconley> apparently, it's operating normally... http://status.mozilla.com/11627/165504/hg.mozilla.org
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# [04:57] <@khuey> mconley: I really doubt that xbl:implements nsISupportsWeakReference does the right thing
# [04:57] <@khuey> so I would start with that
# [04:57] <mconley> ah
# [04:57] <mconley> khuey: thanks for the pointer. :)
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# [05:08] <@bz> Anyone know where I file devmo bugs?
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# [05:10] <nigelb|sheriffduty> bz: is that MDN?
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# [05:12] <@bz> nigelb|sheriffduty: yes
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# [05:17] <@bz> gah
# [05:17] <@bz> why won't bugzilla let me clone devmo bugs? :(
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# [05:19] <nigelb|sheriffduty> bz: It's Mozilla Developer Network if you didn't already find it
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# [05:20] <@bz> nigelb|sheriffduty: Found it. Also found the bug I was looking for in it. Thanks!
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# [05:40] <@njn> bz: do you know about the atom tables?
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# [05:44] <@bz> njn: the xpcom ones?
# [05:44] <@bz> njn: somewhat, yes
# [05:44] <@njn> bz: so there's the normal atoms table and the static one
# [05:44] <nigelb|sheriffduty> I need to step out. play nice!
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# [05:44] <@njn> bz: I'm not completely clear on why we have both
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# [05:45] <@njn> bz: when inserting a static atom, it appears we first check if its in the normal table, and if so, we make it permanent. otherwise we insert into the static atoms tabel
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# [05:45] <@njn> bz: and then there's NS_GetStaticAtom() which just looks in the static table, and seems like it could miss one that one was found and made permanent in the normal table
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# [05:49] <@bz> njn: I _think_ that's a carryover from when RegisterStaticAtoms got called from module ctors that could come after some code had run or something
# [05:49] <@bz> njn: Though I guess that could still technically happen...
# [05:50] <@njn> bz: it all seems a bit weird
# [05:50] <@njn> static atoms go in the static table, unless they don't
# [05:50] <@bz> njn: mmmm
# [05:51] <@bz> So the only consumer that reads the static atom table is NS_GetStaticAtom?
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# [05:52] <@bz> njn: Wait, hold on.
# [05:52] <@bz> njn: Atoms are always stored in the atom table
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# [05:52] <@bz> njn: In gAtomTable, that is
# [05:52] <@bz> njn: Some of them are _also_ stored in gStaticAtomTable
# [05:53] <@njn> bz: In RegisterStaticAtoms(), I'm confused by the two cases within the loop
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# [05:53] <@njn> GetAtomHashEntry() does a PL_DHASH_ADD
# [05:53] <@bz> right
# [05:53] <@bz> which is an add-or-lookup
# [05:54] <@bz> So it always returns a pointer to a hashtable entry
# [05:54] <@bz> which may or may not have anything in it yet
# [05:54] <@njn> so if (he->mAtom) is true, we got a hit?
# [05:54] <@bz> yes
# [05:54] <@bz> And if that atom is not permanent we mark it so
# [05:54] <@njn> ok, so some static atoms end up in gAtomsTable, and some end up in gStaticAtomsTable
# [05:54] <@bz> because the static atoms need to never go away, being static
# [05:54] <@bz> no, no
# [05:54] <@bz> because in the other branch
# [05:55] <@bz> we create a PermanentAtomImpl
# [05:55] <@bz> and store it in he->mAtom
# [05:55] <@bz> So now it's in gAtomsTable
# [05:55] <@bz> We then also add it to gStaticAtomTable, if that's not sealed yet
# [05:55] <@njn> "so some static atoms end up in gAtomsTable, and some end up in gStaticAtomsTable" -- no?
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# [05:55] <@bz> I do think there is a bug here: The addition to gStaticAtomTable should happen across both branches of the if
# [05:56] <@bz> njn: All atoms end up in gAtomsTable
# [05:56] <@njn> yes
# [05:56] <@njn> and some static atoms end up in gStaticAtomsTable
# [05:56] <@njn> but not all
# [05:56] <@bz> njn: yes
# [05:56] <@bz> njn: I agree that looks wrong
# [05:56] <@njn> NS_GetStaticAtom() seems to be the only thing that uses gStaticAtomsTable
# [05:56] <@bz> yep
# [05:56] <@bz> But it's used in a bunch of places
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# [05:57] <@bz> to be using it, that is
# [05:58] <@bz> Looks like it's mostly SVG bits
# [05:58] <@njn> bz: in nsHtml5AtomTable::GetAtom(), for example, it looks like this'll just cause excess atoms to be created
# [05:58] <@bz> and the HTML parser, which is the known-not-wrong consumer
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# [05:58] <@bz> Since this API was added for it to use
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# [05:58] <@bz> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bec299562b22 is what introduced gStaticAtomsTable and it already had this bug with not doing it across both branches of the if
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# [05:59] <@njn> bz: it feels like we could just get rid of gStaticAtomsTable
# [06:00] <@njn> bz: it seems odd to be (in theory) storing some atoms twice
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# [06:00] <@bz> njn: well
# [06:00] <@bz> njn: You understand the problem it's trying to solve, right?
# [06:00] <@njn> nope
# [06:00] <@bz> Let's start there.
# [06:01] <@bz> The HTML parser wants to be able to work with tag name atoms, for various reasons
# [06:01] <@bz> At least iirc
# [06:01] <@bz> Tag name atoms are static
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# [06:01] <@njn> ok
# [06:01] <@bz> for the tags we care about
# [06:01] <@bz> Atoms are refcounted objects, with non-threadsafe refcounting.
# [06:01] <@bz> The HTML parser does not run on the main thread.
# [06:02] <@bz> So it needs a way to get an nsIAtom* for a given string without refcountig the atom
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# [06:02] <@bz> this is only safe for static atoms, since those are guaranteed to stay alive
# [06:02] <@njn> hmm, ok
# [06:04] <@njn> bz: so if some static atoms are not being put into gStaticAtomTable, then NS_GetStaticAtom() may return null when it shouldn't, the consequences of which will depend on the call site
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# [06:04] <@bz> right
# [06:04] <@njn> bz: plenty of static atoms are in this bucket. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5723235 has a few
# [06:04] <@bz> Those are static atoms not being put in gStaticAtomTable?
# [06:04] <@njn> correct
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# [06:04] <@bz> mmm
# [06:05] <@njn> they are from a printf() in the first branch
# [06:05] <@bz> hsivonen would know better about the html parser usage here
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# [06:05] <@bz> The tag names in there bother me
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# [06:05] <@bz> I suggest just hoisting the gStaticAtomTable bit out of the branches and asking hsivonen to review
# [06:05] <@njn> bz: ok
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# [06:06] <@njn> bz: all this arises because I was just looking at the memory usage of the two atom tables
# [06:06] <@njn> bz: and I was all "WTF is going here?"
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# [06:07] <@bz> right, I figured that was how you ended up in that code
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# [06:08] <@njn> bz: the current code tries to measure all the static strings with malloc_size_of(), which is bad
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# [06:08] <@njn> fortunately, those strings are all shared, and so the current "don't measure shared string buffers" check prevented it from happening
# [06:08] <@njn> bz: I'm working now on allowing shared things to be measured
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# [06:21] <@njn> bz: actually, |static <=> permanent| appears to be the case
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# [06:26] <@njn> bz: yeah, IsStaticAtom() just calls IsPermanent()
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# [06:39] <Callek> heycam: ping --- any reason me deferring Bug 1046484 for ~10-12 hours would hurt your productiveness?
# [06:40] <Callek> or is "right now" a high value
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# [06:41] <heycam> Callek, I guess I can wait until tomorrow. I'm pursuing another avenue for tracking down my problem at the moment, and that might take the rest of the day.
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# [06:43] <Callek> if you have other work/things-to-do that won't derail you completely thats best, but if you're twiddling your thumbs (relatively) due to lack of host I'll work on getting you it
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# [06:44] <heycam> Callek, no, don't worry about it
# [06:44] <heycam> sleep :)
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# [09:44] <ZER0> hi, I'm trying to build Firefox from m-c on a Windows VM for the first time, but I'm getting an error about "targeting i386 on 64 bit compiler": I guess because I used the `start-shell-msvc2013-x64.bat`; it means is not possible build a 64bit Firefox? What I'm missing?
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# [09:49] <Archaeopteryx> ZER0: sounds like you try to compile for i386 (from mozconfig?), but run the 64-bit compilter
# [09:49] <Archaeopteryx> maybe that's still an issue with msvc 2013
# [09:49] <ZER0> Archaeopteryx, is the i386 the default target? I thought was 64
# [09:50] <Archaeopteryx> i386 = 32 bit which should be the default
# [09:50] <ZER0> Archaeopteryx, ok, thanks
# [09:51] <Archaeopteryx> i'm still on msvc 2010 and if i remember correct, the plan for msvc 2013 was to use it compile 32 bit versions with the 64 bit compiler
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# [10:00] <dmajor> Archaeopteryx: msvc2013 adds a new 64/32 compiler. it is separate from "the 64 bit compiler". start-shell-msvc2013.bat will automatically use it if you are on a 64bit system.
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# [10:00] <Archaeopteryx> thank you for the information
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# [10:03] <ZER0> dmajor, so you're suggesting to use start-shell-msvc2013.bat instead of start-shell-msvc2013-x64.bat?
# [10:04] <dmajor> ZER0: it depends. are you trying to make a 64-bit build?
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# [10:04] <ZER0> dmajor, yeah, and I was afraid that using start-shell-msvc2013.bat will do a 32bit instead
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# [10:05] <dmajor> ZER0: that's right. you'll still want to use the -x64.bat, but you'll need to set a 64-bit target in your mozconfig
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# [10:06] <ZER0> dmajor, Archaeopteryx is there a link on MDN about the option I need to set? Is ac_add_options --target=x86_64-pc-mingw32 enough?
# [10:07] <dmajor> ZER0: I use ac_add_options --target=x86_64-pc-mingw32 ac_add_options --host=x86_64-pc-mingw32
# [10:07] <dmajor> (I stole those settings from a build machine, I don't know if both are really needed)
# [10:07] <ZER0> dmajor, thanks!
# [10:07] <ZER0> I'll try
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# [10:11] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pong
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# [10:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: there seems to be a bustage on b2g-inbound
# [10:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> starting with your push
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# [10:13] <tzimmermann> arrggg, missing include statements
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# [10:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: i closed b2g-inbound let me know if you want to fix or if we shall backout this
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# [10:14] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: could you revert it? i'll rebuild under different versions to get all the required includes and push again
# [10:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: yeah will do
# [10:14] <tzimmermann> i mean, 'back out'
# [10:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
# [10:14] <tzimmermann> ok, thank you. sorry for the mess
# [10:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np
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# [13:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nical: bustage
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# [13:51] <froydnj> edmorley: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=Try&revision=117245a61c89
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# [13:51] <froydnj> edmorley: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=Try&revision=36005ce6d43c
# [13:51] <froydnj> jobs showing up on tbpl just fine
# [13:52] <nical> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Ok I'll back out
# [13:52] <edmorley> froydnj: try repo=try (lowercase)
# [13:52] <edmorley> froydnj: presume these came from the email links?
# [13:52] <froydnj> edmorley: aye
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# [13:52] <froydnj> silly computers, DWIM!
# [13:53] <edmorley> froydnj: so the repo name used in buildbotcustom's try mailer (that TBPL is happy with) isn't liked by treeherder. Bug 1046225 is on file for making treeherder more tolerant
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# [13:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nical: ok i can do that too
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# [13:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok nevermind :)
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# [13:58] <froydnj> hm, that sounds...not correct
# [13:59] <RealRaven> Addon question: I have a problem with a load event for the main window (firefox browser) which apparently is not triggered. Could it be caused by another addon that catches this event with capture = true? What other event could I use?
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# [14:08] <rafas> Hello Guys!
# [14:08] <rafas> I am extremely new to contributing to firefox and I'd like some help
# [14:08] <Archaeopteryx> rafas: please join us in #introduction
# [14:09] <rafas> okay thanks
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# [14:50] <IanN> Tomcat|sheriffduty: is it ok to push https://bug1046468.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8465141 to m-c or does it need to go via m-i?
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# [15:01] <RyanVM> np
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# [15:05] <froydnj> at least for try
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# [15:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kats: let me you when we shall backout that changes
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# [15:24] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i have a fix, just testing it
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# [15:25] <kats> i did a |mach build .| in the wrong folder before, so i didn't compile what i thought i compiled
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# [15:25] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: should i land the fix?
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# [15:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kats: yeah sure, tree is closed so you can push the fix
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# [15:27] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pushed
# [15:27] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9eeb976a6ca5 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1046292 - Follow-up to fix bustage. r=me on a CLOSED TREE
# [15:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks kats
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# [15:28] <gcp> do we have a bug for the youtube visual corruption on windows? It's been on nightly for >1 week or so now
# [15:28] <gcp> well, flash corruption, I suppose
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# [15:39] <kats> Tomcat|sheriffduty: is it just my tbpl, or are build jobs not triggering on my bustage fix?
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# [15:39] <kats> i'm stuck at loading 86% so i don't know for sure
# [15:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kats: i see builds running :)
# [15:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so i guess maybe reloading tbpl helps, had this also before today
# [15:42] <kats> mine just keeps stalling at 86%
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# [15:43] <ejpbruel> who can i ask some questions about event handling in the context of workers?
# [15:43] <RyanVM> kats: you're not on FiOS, are you?
# [15:43] <kats> RyanVM: nope
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# [15:43] <RyanVM> k, count yourself lucky
# [15:43] <RyanVM> that's been my life for almost a month now
# [15:43] <froydnj> RyanVM: you have fios and it's bad?
# [15:43] <ejpbruel> baku: ^
# [15:43] <ejpbruel> or smaug: ^
# [15:43] <RyanVM> yeah, "thanks" Verizon and Netflix
# [15:43] <kats> RyanVM: the network inspector shows the builds-pending.js requests from secure.pub.build.mozilla.org hasn't completed
# [15:44] <froydnj> RyanVM: doh
# [15:44] <RyanVM> froydnj: bug 1040297
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# [15:44] <baku> ejpbruel, sure. what's the question?
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# [15:45] <froydnj> RyanVM: fantastic
# [15:45] <RyanVM> froydnj: yeah, it blows
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# [15:45] <ejpbruel> baku: ive been working on worker debugging for the past few months
# [15:45] <jimm> gfx bounds for content on Windows appear to be totally messed up in mc tip.
# [15:46] <ejpbruel> baku: i have a platform patch that introduces a second global to each worker, which is lazily loaded when we initialize the debugger
# [15:46] <ejpbruel> baku: the debugger runs on that second global and inspects the first one
# [15:46] <baku> ejpbruel, ok
# [15:46] <ejpbruel> baku: at some point when the main script hit a breakpoint, we need to create the illusion that the main thread is paused
# [15:46] <kats> and yet i can curl that file just fine
# [15:46] <kats> weird
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# [15:47] <ejpbruel> on the main thread, we do so by supressing event handling on the debuggee's window
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# [15:47] <ejpbruel> and then entering a nested event loop
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# [15:47] <ejpbruel> that way we can still talk to the debugger but things like timeouts wont fire on the main thread
# [15:47] <baku> ejpbruel, ok
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# [15:47] <ejpbruel> on the worker thread however, both the debugger and the debuggee use the same event queue
# [15:47] <ejpbruel> there is no notion of nested queues there
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> so instead i introduced a second event queue for debugger runnables
# [15:48] <baku> correct.
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> and rewrote the workers event loop so that it drains both queues
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> however, if the debugger spins up a nested event loop
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> we only drain the debugger queue
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> this effectively blocks timeouts etc
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> while still allowing communication with the main thread
# [15:49] <ejpbruel> since debugger messages are sent over that second queue
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# [15:49] <ejpbruel> baku: with me so far?
# [15:49] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/641d9afb5bd2 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 1045468: WebRTC should support SVC NAL(NAL type 14) for H264 r=jesup
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# [15:49] <baku> yes. but I suspect you really want to talk with bent :)
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# [15:50] <ejpbruel> baku: bent isnt here right now :)
# [15:50] <ejpbruel> baku: anyway, the core of my issues is that this solution works too well
# [15:50] <baku> ejpbruel, yeah I know. let's see if I can help.
# [15:50] <ejpbruel> baku: the debugger script has access to XHR for example
# [15:50] <ejpbruel> but if its spinning a nested event loop XHR onload will never fire
# [15:50] <ejpbruel> similarly for timeouts
# [15:50] <ejpbruel> but most troubling
# [15:50] <ejpbruel> Promises dont work
# [15:51] <ejpbruel> which im assuming is because DOM promises in workers also use the main event queue
# [15:51] <baku> right.
# [15:51] <ejpbruel> i can work around the lack of XHR by adding some rpc mechanism to the main thread to call XHr there
# [15:51] <ejpbruel> but i cannot work around the lack of timeouts and promises
# [15:52] <jesup> jimm: ping
# [15:52] <jimm> Jerry: hey
# [15:52] <jimm> oops
# [15:52] <jimm> jesup: ping
# [15:53] <jimm> er, pong :)
# [15:53] <jesup> It's all us 'je' people :-)
# [15:53] <baku> mmm what Promise should be treated differently than timeouts for debugging?
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# [15:53] <jimm> jesup: so what's up?
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# [15:53] <jimm> I tried reproducing that crash, didn't get it to trigger
# [15:53] <jimm> win7, 64-bit os
# [15:54] <jimm> 32-bit local build
# [15:54] <jesup> jimm: I rebuilt a clean inbound build this morning, and running the test, within a minute I got first one mismatches static interrupt frame assertion, then two more and a crash
# [15:54] <baku> ejpbruel, why do we want to threat promise differently than timeouts?
# [15:54] <ejpbruel> baku: we dont really
# [15:54] <jesup> win7x64, 32-bit debug build
# [15:54] <ejpbruel> baku: all im saying is that both timeouts and promises in workers use the main event queue
# [15:54] <ejpbruel> baku: so neither of them will work if we are in a nested event loop
# [15:54] <ejpbruel> baku: but the debugger server requires them both
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# [15:55] <jesup> jimm: how are you testing?
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# [15:55] <ejpbruel> baku: if promises created by the debugger would somehow use the debugger queue
# [15:55] <ejpbruel> things would work
# [15:55] <ejpbruel> same for timeouts
# [15:55] <jesup> http://mozilla.github.com/webrtc-landing/pc_test.html, with the Require H.264 box checked?
# [15:56] <jimm> jesup: I have a local debug build, debuggers attached to both the chrome process and plugin container. load up that webrtc demo, and just let it run in the background for a while.
# [15:56] <ejpbruel> heck, even if we just had timeouts i could probably use that to implement promises
# [15:56] <jimm> jesup: yes, the 264 thing is enabled
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# [15:56] <baku> ejpbruel, ah ok! this is the issue.
# [15:56] <jesup> I have no debuggers attached - though when I did I hit the assertions
# [15:56] <jimm> and the plugin is loaded, I can see that dll in the profile load in the plugin container
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# [15:57] <baku> ejpbruel, can you change the target of the timeout/promise based on the current active queue?
# [15:57] <jesup> jimm: ok. Real camera or still the fake?
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# [15:57] <jimm> jesup: you can ignore the assertions in debug build isung 'XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK=warn'
# [15:57] <jimm> jesup: fake camera
# [15:57] <jesup> jimm: yes, I have that set
# [15:57] <jimm> I guess I could try on my laptop, that also has win7 on it
# [15:57] <jesup> Very annoying otherwise
# [15:57] <jimm> and a real comera/mic
# [15:57] <jimm> *camera
# [15:58] <jesup> jimm: let's try that. No idea why, but it can affect timing
# [15:58] <jimm> ok, will do
# [16:00] <ejpbruel> baku: i dont know
# [16:00] <ejpbruel> baku: i guess that would be my question
# [16:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13c5f1142de9 - James Graham - Bug 1026181 - Make mach terminal formatter work outside mach context, r=chmanchester
# [16:00] <ejpbruel> baku: im not even sure if i can tell what the currently active queue is supposed to be
# [16:01] <ejpbruel> baku: we might be able to tell that from the global in which the promise/timeout was created
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# [16:02] <ejpbruel> baku: is there a central point where we dispatch events to the queue in workers?
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# [16:03] <baku> ejpbruel, give me 5 mins.. come back soon, I have a quick call to do
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# [16:05] <froydnj> Pike: ping
# [16:05] <ejpbruel> baku: ill be right here
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# [16:06] <Pike> froydnj: pong
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# [16:07] <froydnj> Pike: if I wanted to ask a bunch of localizers about their workflow, what's the best venue to do that in?
# [16:08] <Archaeopteryx> newsgroup mozilla.dev.l10n imho
# [16:08] <Pike> yeah
# [16:08] <Archaeopteryx> but you can also go straight to #l10n and let e.g. flod explain that's all totally different
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# [16:10] <froydnj> ok, thanks!
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# [16:14] <ep103> hey all. for gecko / xulrunner, can anyone think of any way you could tie changes in the DOM to which script (tag) requested the change? I'm customizing a gecko/xulrunner browser so that as different Ad scripts run in the browser, we can identify exactly what they do once the website has loaded
# [16:15] <ep103> I've been pouring through the source code for a few days now, and would appreciate any insights
# [16:15] <jimm> a p3
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# [16:16] <ep103> by doing a custom nsIContentPolicy, I can identify which nodes in the DOM connect to advertising companies. Now I'm trying to do the the other half, and see what changes occur in the DOM result from script tags associated with those DOM nodes
# [16:16] <ep103> any ideas?
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# [16:20] <baku> ejpbruel, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/WorkerPrivate.cpp#2194 have you already played with it?
# [16:21] <ejpbruel> baku: well
# [16:21] <ejpbruel> baku: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757133
# [16:22] <ejpbruel> i played with it a lot actually
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# [16:22] <baku> ejpbruel, :) I haven't seen this bug yet.
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# [16:23] <ejpbruel> baku: its been a WIP for some time now :)
# [16:23] <ejpbruel> baku: turns out its a lot harder than I expected though
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# [16:23] <baku> ejpbruel, I don't think I can help with your issue but I'm definitely interested. Can we talk with bent tonight? he should be online in 3 hours?
# [16:24] <ejpbruel> baku: sending out an e-mail to people who have been involved with this
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# [16:24] <ejpbruel> baku: ill put you on the list of cc's
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# [16:24] <baku> ejpbruel, thanks
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# [16:26] <jdm> ep103: sounds like you want mutation events
# [16:27] <jdm> ep103: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/API/MutationObserver
# [16:27] <jdm> oh wait
# [16:28] <jdm> I'm not sure you can figure out which script tag triggered the change
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# [16:28] <Ms2ger> jdm, *observers
# [16:28] <jdm> yes, hence my link
# [16:29] <ep103> yeah, that was my first idea too. If I go that route, then I was hoping somewhere in the source I could figure out an Id for the specific script that was running, and maybe match it somewhere else to where ids are generated when script tags are added
# [16:29] <ep103> but that led me into spidermonkey, and I quickly got lost
# [16:29] <ep103> thought I'd ask here for help
# [16:29] * jdm remembers an IDL property which is the current active script
# [16:29] <ep103> that would be cool
# [16:29] <jdm> but I imagine that that would be the one that created your mutation observers
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# [16:30] <jdm> document.currentScript
# [16:31] <jdm> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#dom-document-currentscript
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# [16:36] <ep103> arg, got to go to a meeting. I'm going to play around with document.currentScript and see what I can do jdm
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# [16:36] <ep103> maybe by taking advantage as the dom loads, I can associate current scripts to specific nodes
# [16:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/247751fedbeb - Jan de Mooij - Bug 1046176 - Fix inlined UnsafeSetReservedSlot post barrier. r=nbp, a=sledru
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# [16:38] <gcp> who's familiar with our memory allocation/fragementation/OOM issues? (review?/feedback?)
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# [16:38] <padenot> I'd say bsmedberg
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# [16:39] <RyanVM> or dmajor maybe?
# [16:39] <RyanVM> bad timezone for him, though :)
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# [16:47] <RealRaven> An Addon question: I have a problem with a load event for the main window (firefox browser) which apparently is not triggered. Could it be caused by another addon that catches this event with capture = true? What other event could I use?
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# [16:48] <froydnj> gcp: glandium is also worth an f?, ehoogeveen might also be interested
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# [16:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d79140bdfbf0 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1042878 - part 0 - remove 'SHELL := ksh' assignment in layout/build/Makefile.in; r=glandium
# [16:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baf9b70bdc7f - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1042878 - part 1 - make most *CFLAGS variables from configure lists in moz.build; r=glandium
# [16:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c0cfdafc568 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1042878 - part 2 - move MOZ_CAIRO_CFLAGS et al additions to C*FLAGS into moz.build; r=glandium
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# [16:57] <ep103> jdm: Oh man, I could kiss my monitor right now. currentScript: Returns the <script> element whose script is currently being processed. That's exactly what I was hoping for
# [16:57] <ep103> If I tie that to a mutable observer, and ignore web workers, that might work
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# [16:58] <ep103> Maybe I just ping the crap out of that function as the dom loads?
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# [16:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fb23fd8244e - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 1045251. Use the concrete type imgRequestProxy in nsStyleImage. r=seth
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# [17:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/31774d2d06bf - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [17:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d31cac20cbff - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [17:09] <bkelly> do we have an assertion for unreachable code?
# [17:10] <paolo> edmorley|sheriffduty: I hit CTRL+C during my last push to fx-team and it doesn't appear in the hg pushlog,
# [17:10] <bkelly> ah, MOZ_ASSERT_UNREACHABLE
# [17:10] <froydnj> bkelly: MOZ_MAKE_COMPILER_ASSUME_IS_UNREACHABLE
# [17:10] <paolo> despite it shows up in the list of revisions at https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/summary
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# [17:10] <paolo> any idea on how to fix this?
# [17:11] <paolo> or just wait for the next push?
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# [17:11] * froydnj sees contradictions in documentation in Assertions.h
# [17:11] <bkelly> froydnj: hmm, which one is preferred?
# [17:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> paolo: it requires a manual DB edit; I've closed fx-team and there hasn't been another push since so we should be fine
# [17:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> paolo: in general ctrl+c when pushing is discouraged fwiw
# [17:13] <paolo> I see :-)
# [17:13] <edmorley|sheriffduty> paolo: though the push should be happening as one transaction in an ideal world :-/
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# [17:13] <paolo> yeah...
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# [17:14] <edmorley|sheriffduty> paolo: bug 966545 is filed for it
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# [17:15] <paolo> btw, CTRL+C in Mercurial is a bad idea even locally
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# [17:15] <paolo> so many corrupt working copies...
# [17:15] <froydnj> bkelly: I guess MOZ_ASSERT_UNREACHHABLE
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# [17:17] <paolo> sorry for the additional work :-( thanks for the rapid help
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# [17:18] <edmorley|sheriffduty> paolo: np, filing a bug for the db edit now
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# [17:18] <edmorley|sheriffduty> paolo: thank you for saying so quickly, meant we caught it in time
# [17:18] <bkelly> froydnj: thanks
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# [17:19] <paolo> well, glad we have integration branches with reduced traffic now
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# [17:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcf11265df87 - Brian Hackett - Bug 1046452 - Fix --disable-ion build breakage, r=jandem.
# [17:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5718ab53065 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1045118 - move install rules in browser/devtools/*/Makefile.in to moz.build; r=mshal
# [17:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0e0ee180af3 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1045247 - move install rules in toolkit/devtools/*/Makefile.in to moz.build; r=mshal
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# [17:27] <RyanVM> froydnj: why do I have a bad feeling you pushing that devtools patch to inbound is going to make life difficult for me next time we merge fx-team around?
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# [17:27] <RyanVM> oh yeah, because I hit merge conflicts on your push from yesterday
# [17:27] <froydnj> RyanVM: doh
# [17:27] <froydnj> oh, the JS_MODULES_PATH thing...yeah
# [17:28] <RyanVM> yeah, it was a simple rebase at least
# [17:28] <RyanVM> someone else touched the qrcode moz.build on fx-team
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# [17:28] <froydnj> guess landing that one on fx-team might have been better
# [17:28] <RyanVM> your inbound push, yes
# [17:28] <RyanVM> (though fx-team is closed anyway :P)
# [17:29] <froydnj> see, I *had* to land it on inbound :p
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# [17:30] <froydnj> RyanVM: actually, I'd say test failures are the more likely
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# [17:31] <froydnj> RyanVM: if somebody added files that got automagically picked up by the wildcarding before
# [17:31] <froydnj> RyanVM: those files aren't going to be in the handcrafted lists that I made
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# [17:43] <NeilAway> IanN: hmm, diid glandium get rid of TOOLS_DIRS?
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# [17:43] <RealRaven> I have a problem with a load event for the main window (firefox browser) which apparently is not triggered. Can somebody help
# [17:43] <NeilAway> RealRaven: pastebin?
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# [17:44] <IanN> NeilAway: yes
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# [17:44] <NeilAway> IanN: c-c packages its xpis in tool_dirs :-(
# [17:44] <RealRaven> NeilAway: ok, onesec
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# [17:46] <NeilAway> IanN: well, I thought it did, although I can only find one of the rules right now
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# [17:46] <RealRaven> NeilAway: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5732571
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# [17:46] <RealRaven> see line 40. I had wind.addEventListener ... but that also fails
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# [17:47] <RealRaven> *window.addEventListener
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# [17:47] <NeilAway> RealRaven: same difference... code looks sane though
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# [17:48] <RealRaven> NeilAway: Problem is, this is hard to debug or log as it should be trigger on Firefox start / open new window
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# [17:48] <RealRaven> I initialliy had captuer = false - But I did find somebody else's Addon (dtA) using true; would this mean nobody else gets the event?
# [17:49] <RealRaven> I only know of capture on mouse events, and that would consume them?
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# [17:49] <RealRaven> Anyway if I could add it to the browser window ot XULBrowserTab or something I would be happy as well. it only affects the content contextMenu
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# [17:50] <jesup> jimm: any luck?
# [17:50] <jimm> jesup: debug build is still bulding on the laptop. hadn't updated in a year or so.
# [17:51] <RealRaven> Might be my chrome.manifest: overlay chrome://browser/content/browser.xul chrome://quickpasswords/content/quickpasswords_browser.xul
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# [17:51] <RealRaven> Do I need to overlay something different to browser.xul?
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# [17:52] <RealRaven> Or maybe a problem in my xul file? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5732637
# [17:52] <jesup> jimm: ouch. clobber debug build took me maybe ... 30 min? (W520 i7/16MB/SSD)
# [17:53] <RealRaven> I also tried to add the event listener from there (line 81).
# [17:53] <RealRaven> It just appears this line is either not called or it fails..
# [17:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/482533cb9495 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 1040721 - The search service should provide details for parsing search result URLs. r=gavin
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# [17:55] <RealRaven> NeilAway: the menu items are there, albeit collapsed
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# [17:56] <NeilAway> RealRaven: if you're capturing, you should get lots of useless load events
# [17:57] <RealRaven> NeilAway: the event doesn't seem to be triggered. But how do I debug this, when I fire up the debugger, the main window is already up and the event is over
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# [18:00] <RealRaven> NeilAway: The only thing I can think of is disabling all Addons one by one to find which one might break it
# [18:00] <NeilAway> RealRaven: the only nit I've spotted is that the overlay shouldn't import the root global skin
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# [18:02] <nemo> hm. Firefox devtools autocomplete gets really screwed up if a line wraps.
# [18:02] <nemo> and. I was typing it all one one line 'cause I was trying to whip up a bookmarklet
# [18:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2c54d1bdd339 - Richard Newman - Bug 936851 - Part 1: remove VideoPlayer. r=mfinkle
# [18:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4cbef502c1dc - Richard Newman - Bug 936851 - Part 2: delegate to Fennec itself for YouTube video instead of VideoPlayer. r=mfinkle
# [18:02] <NeilAway> RealRaven: also I'd stick with <script type="application/javascript" ...>
# [18:02] <nemo> the autocomplete suggest overlaps the text, and the select list is on the opposite side of this rather large screen from where my text is
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# [18:03] <jorendorff> so, i guess employees are required to do anti-harassment employee training today
# [18:03] <RealRaven> NeilAway: sure. I only snuck in that script line in desparation when it still wouldn't work. Is there maybe a later event I coudl try (after load) ?
# [18:03] <jorendorff> but air.m.o won't let me view the event
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# [18:04] <RealRaven> LIke I said, hard to debug this. Maybe I can use console2
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# [18:10] <NeilAway> jorendorff: try harassing the appropriate employee :-P
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# [18:11] <RealRaven> NeilAway: what could cause the event not be triggered. Can another Addon capture & consume it completely?
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# [18:11] <NeilAway> RealRaven: well, since Firefox uses load events, I doubt it
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# [18:12] <RealRaven> I think I can't put in an "alert" but if I add a sliding notification to the load event would this hsow up?
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# [18:12] <NeilAway> RealRaven: nsIAlertsService? should work, I think
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# [18:13] <RealRaven> NeilAway: I meant gBrowser.getNotificationBox()
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# [18:14] <RealRaven> if gBrowser is accessible during window.load ....
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# [18:16] <RealRaven> BUt maybe using a tablistener or something would be safer
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# [19:16] <@ehsan> abr: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/07/31/the-mobile-web-should-just-work-for-everyone.aspx
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# [19:18] <froydnj> love how they call out firefox os
# [19:19] <abr> froydnj: Well, it's a mixed blessing. I mean, the fact that they're even paying attention is arguably a good sign.
# [19:20] <froydnj> abr: very true
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# [19:21] <abr> khuey: Or a simulator...
# [19:21] <@ehsan> khuey: they didn't
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# [19:30] <@ehsan> what are these red lines on crash stats? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/887d1c63-2521-430d-9c49-a25902140731
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# [19:32] <@ehsan> ah, tooltips!
# [19:32] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jwalker: this doesn't look good - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=44982654&tree=Fx-Team
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# [19:35] <ejpbruel> bz: khuey: ping. i sent you guys an e-mail earlier. was hoping to cut some corners and discuss it on irc if you can spare the time.
# [19:36] <@bz> ejpbruel: I have some time; let me find this email
# [19:36] <ejpbruel> bz: awesome. thank you :)
# [19:36] <jwalker> RyanVM|sheriffduty: gak. I know what's up. Want me to try to fix or do you want to backup
# [19:36] <jwalker> backout
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jwalker: if you think the fix is simple, go for it
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# [19:37] <@bz> ejpbruel: Can I just run screaming?
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# [19:38] <@khuey> I'm giving a talk in half an hour
# [19:38] <@khuey> so I can't discuss it right now
# [19:38] <ejpbruel> khuey: fair enough. bz is helping me out, perhaps we can discuss at some later point.
# [19:38] <ejpbruel> bz: i know, i know
# [19:39] <ejpbruel> bz: the way its implemented isnt *quite* that horrible
# [19:39] * @bz thinks ejpbruel is overstating the case
# [19:39] <ejpbruel> bz: but it has fundamental problems
# [19:39] <@khuey> it's pretty unfortunate that the debugger is implemented in JS
# [19:39] <@bz> ejpbruel: so here is a question
# [19:39] <ejpbruel> khuey: i know, it leads to some pretty funky problems
# [19:39] <ejpbruel> but thats where we are
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# [19:39] <@bz> ejpbruel: Say the person doing debugging does this:
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# [19:40] <@bz> var x = new XMLHttpRequest(); x.open("GET", whatever); x.onload = something; x.send()
# [19:40] <@bz> ejpbruel: What should happen?
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# [19:40] <ejpbruel> bz: with person doing debugging, you mean that this is code running in the debugger?
# [19:41] <@bz> ejpbruel: I mean this is code that the actual person who is debugging stuff tries to eval in a frame
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# [19:41] <ejpbruel> bz: ah, i see, good question
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# [19:42] <@bz> ejpbruel: For that matter, what happens when debugging non-workers?
# [19:42] <ejpbruel> bz: i actually dont know from the back of my head, i'd have to ask jimb
# [19:42] <ejpbruel> or perhaps fitzgen knows
# [19:42] <ejpbruel> pinged him in #devtools
# [19:42] <jimb> huh?
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# [19:42] <ejpbruel> jimb: oh hey, jim!
# [19:42] <ejpbruel> didnt know you were here
# [19:42] <jimb> khuey: It is not unfortunate at all
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# [19:42] <fitzgen> wha?
# [19:43] <ejpbruel> jimb: i sent you an email that you should read for context probably
# [19:43] <@khuey> jimb: no, it's pretty unfortunate
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# [19:43] <jimb> khuey: How else are you going to do the UI?
# [19:43] <@khuey> it makes this much more of a PITA than it would otherwise be
# [19:43] <ejpbruel> khuey: jimb: this isnt really a constructive conversation right now
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# [19:43] <@khuey> jimb: I'm talking about the server
# [19:43] <jimb> khuey: I doubt that.
# [19:43] <ejpbruel> fact of the matter is that it is implemented in js
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# [19:43] <ejpbruel> so lets deal with that
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# [19:44] <@bz> ejpbruel: How about just doing the experiment?
# [19:44] <@bz> ejpbruel: Since I doubt anyone actually knows off the top of their heads
# [19:45] <fitzgen> ejpbruel: so what exactly are you asking me?
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# [19:45] <ejpbruel> fitzgen: what happens on the server side if somebody tries to eval the following line in a paused debuggee script:
# [19:45] <ejpbruel> var x = new XMLHttpRequest(); x.open("GET", whatever); x.onload = something; x.send()
# [19:45] <ejpbruel> does that code get executed within the debugger's nested event loop?
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# [19:46] <fitzgen> ejpbruel: it should
# [19:46] <jimb> Yes.
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# [19:46] <@bz> ejpbruel: Anyway, my gut feeling is that the right thing to do is to make all the things the debugger will want to use aware of the separate event queue
# [19:46] <ejpbruel> and if something contains a debugger statement, will it fire up a new nested event loop
# [19:46] <jimb> bz: I think that's right.
# [19:46] <@bz> ejpbruel: and post messages to it as needed.
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# [19:46] <ejpbruel> bz: thats what im thinking too, but it seems like that would lead to a LOT of code duplication
# [19:46] <ejpbruel> bz: at the very least we want timeouts and promises
# [19:46] <@bz> ejpbruel: Where "as needed" can be defined in various ways
# [19:46] <ejpbruel> bz: lack of xhr i can work around
# [19:46] <@bz> ejpbruel: Why does it require code duplication?
# [19:46] <ejpbruel> bz: well
# [19:46] <jwalker> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can we backout? sorry. but I have a meeting shortly and I don't want to rush
# [19:46] <ejpbruel> bz: lets take the timer case as an example
# [19:47] <@bz> ejpbruel: ok
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# [19:47] <ejpbruel> actually, no, bad example
# [19:47] <ejpbruel> promises are better
# [19:47] <ejpbruel> when the promise is resolved
# [19:47] <ejpbruel> it puts a resolve runnable on the queue, yes?
# [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jwalker: sure, will do
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# [19:47] * ejpbruel doesnt know the details of the DOM promise implementation
# [19:47] <@khuey> ted: ping
# [19:47] <@bz> ejpbruel: yes, it does
# [19:48] <ejpbruel> bz: ok, so how can the promise tell what event queue to use?
# [19:48] <@smaug> there is only one queue
# [19:48] <jimb> ejpbruel: I think the real root issue here is that our server was written with the assumption that it has full run of everything available to chrome JS.
# [19:48] <@bz> smaug: Not with debugger involved
# [19:48] <@smaug> uh
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# [19:48] <@smaug> right
# [19:48] <ejpbruel> jimb: well yeah
# [19:48] <jimb> ejpbruel: It wasn't really designed with much care to isolate it from its environment.
# [19:48] <ejpbruel> jimb: but i can work around almost any chrome API by doing an rpc call to the main thread server
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# [19:49] <@bz> ejpbruel: Most simply, have a "current queue" member in either TLS or hanging off the WorkerPrivate
# [19:49] <ejpbruel> jimb: thats not the root issue
# [19:49] <@bz> ejpbruel: while processing events from a queue, set it as the current queue
# [19:49] <jimb> ejpbruel: Couldn't you do that with the source and source map requests?
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# [19:49] <ejpbruel> bz: random idea:
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# [19:49] <jimb> ejpbruel: Actually, let me finish reading the letter that you took the time to write. Sorry.
# [19:49] <ejpbruel> no, wait
# [19:49] <@bz> ejpbruel: So if the thing calling resolve() is running off the debugger queue, the resolve task will also land in the debugger queue
# [19:50] <ejpbruel> bz: will that always work?
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# [19:50] <ejpbruel> hmmm
# [19:51] <ejpbruel> everytime we run some code in a worker, we do so in the context of *some* runnable
# [19:51] <ejpbruel> even the main script
# [19:51] <jimb> ejpbruel: "a XHR request doesn't know whether it was created in the debuggee or in the debugger and will therefore always use the normal event queue"
# [19:51] <ejpbruel> so every time we put something on the queue, we do so in the context of *some* runnable
# [19:51] <@bz> ejpbruel: right
# [19:51] <jimb> ejpbruel: That's got to change. Either XHR has to change to know what it's doing, or you have to use something else.
# [19:51] <ejpbruel> jimb: yeah, no kidding :)
# [19:51] <ejpbruel> jimb: thats why i implemented this rpc solution
# [19:51] <@bz> ejpbruel: I mean, things can directly put stuff into a queue of their choosing
# [19:51] <ejpbruel> jimb: but that didnt work either becuase Promises arent debugger aware either
# [19:51] <@bz> ejpbruel: Or they can put into the "current queue"
# [19:52] <ejpbruel> bz: one problem with that
# [19:52] <ejpbruel> bz: the way its designed right now is:
# [19:52] <@bz> ejpbruel: Depending on the behavior you want
# [19:52] <ejpbruel> the class of the runnable determines the queue its dispatched in
# [19:52] <@bz> ejpbruel: Now with timeouts you'll have another serious problem
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# [19:52] <ejpbruel> either it inherits from WorkerRunnable or WorkerDebuggerRunnable
# [19:52] <@bz> ejpbruel: well, that would need to change, no?
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# [19:52] <ejpbruel> bz: another option would be that we can wrap a WorkerRunnable in a WorkerDebuggerRunnable
# [19:52] <@bz> ejpbruel: If you do my suggestion, at least
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# [19:53] <@bz> ejpbruel: I have no opinion on what the cleanest way to express this in code is.
# [19:53] <ejpbruel> bz: as a matter of fact, we could do so in WorkerPrivate::DispatchPrivate
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# [19:53] <gwagner> jduell: ping
# [19:53] <ejpbruel> if it determines that were trying to dispatch a WorkerRunnable while the active queue is the debugger queue
# [19:53] <@bz> ejpbruel: because I have not read the relevant code.
# [19:53] <ejpbruel> bz: yeah, i understand
# [19:53] <jduell> gwagner: pong
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# [19:53] <ejpbruel> bz: i also need to talk to khuey and bent to make sure this doesnt interfere with control and sync runnables
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# [19:54] <@bz> right
# [19:54] <gwagner> jduell: we have a bad regression on b2g since yesterday. we can't open downloaded apps any more. do you know of any necko patch that landed yesterday and could have caused this?
# [19:54] <ejpbruel> jimb: the problem isnt just XHR. timeouts wont work either. promises wont work either
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# [19:54] <ejpbruel> all of that stuff needs to be made debugger aware
# [19:54] <jduell> gwagner: not off the top of my head--let me look...
# [19:54] <jduell> gwagner: this is only on nightly, I assume?
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# [19:55] <ejpbruel> bz: anyway, so we agree that we need to make the APIs we need debugger aware
# [19:55] <gwagner> yeah I think so. QA is starting to look if other versions regressed as well
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# [19:55] <jimb> "debugger aware" is terrible.
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# [19:55] <ejpbruel> bz: and a likely solution is to introduce the concept of a current queue
# [19:55] <ejpbruel> jimb: i know
# [19:55] <ejpbruel> jimb: i feel really uncomfortable with this whole issue
# [19:56] <jimb> This is a very noisy channel to hold this discussion; can we move it to #devtools?
# [19:56] <gwagner> jduell: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5734006
# [19:56] <ejpbruel> jimb: lets
# [19:56] <gwagner> maybe that helps
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# [19:56] <jduell> gwagner: huh--cookies. Interesting
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# [19:57] <ejpbruel> bz: jimb and I will discuss some more in #devtools. thanks for your feedback so far!
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# [19:59] <jduell> gwagner: just to be clear, by downloaded apps you /don't/ mean appcache, right? Just downloaded app.zip files?
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# [19:59] <gwagner> jduell: from the marketplace
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# [20:00] <gwagner> jduell: not sure what the latest and greatest is with those apps
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# [20:04] <jduell> gwagner: is there a bug open for this yet?
# [20:04] <fabrice> jduell: hosted apps actually
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# [20:04] <fabrice> like twitter
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# [20:05] <garvank> if a bug is due to a very recent commit, do we just assign it to the commiter? ni them?
# [20:05] <garvank> jdm: ^^
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# [20:05] <jduell> fabrice: gwagner: it's weird--the log from the pastebin above shows that IPDL serialization for a SetCookie call is failing. But none of the code in /netwerk/cookie has been changed in a while
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# [20:06] <garvank> jdm: ok thx
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# [20:06] <gwagner> jduell: yeah I checked it as well
# [20:06] <jduell> gwagner: so hosted apps are failing every time with this error?
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# [20:07] <gwagner> jduell: twitter fails with this error. other apps just crash the phone
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# [20:07] <jduell> "Just crash the phone": quote of the day so far...
# [20:07] <gwagner> jduell: :) crash the parent process
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# [20:08] <jduell> fabrice: refresh my memory: what exactly is a hosted app? It still uses an app.zip file right? How is it different than other apps?
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# [20:08] <fabrice> jduell: no, the manifest just points to a remote http(s) location
# [20:08] <fabrice> but it has an appId, etc
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# [20:09] <jduell> fabrice: do they use the appcache at all?
# [20:09] <fabrice> no
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# [20:09] <fabrice> twitter doesn't and crashed consistently for me
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# [20:10] <gwagner> oh now the facebook app works for me again
# [20:10] <jduell> gwagner: do you know if this failure happens on desktop B2G or just the phone?
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# [20:10] <fabrice> gwagner: yeah, facebook works for me, but no luck with twitter
# [20:11] <gwagner> jduell: haven't tried on b2g desktop
# [20:11] <gwagner> I will see if I can get more info from a debug build
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# [20:16] <gwagner> jduell: no
# [20:17] <gwagner> jduell: I will file one. b2g general until we find a better place
# [20:17] <jduell> gwagner: cc me. I'm going to build desktop (and for my phone if I have to) and try to debug this
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# [20:33] <@ehsan> mmc: ping
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# [20:34] <mmc> ehsan, i'm here
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# [20:34] <@ehsan> mmc: hey! what's blushproof?
# [20:35] <mmc> ehsan, http://monica-at-mozilla.blogspot.com/2013/05/blushproof.html
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# [20:35] <mmc> i stopped working on it a while back
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# [20:36] <@ehsan> mmc: my main question is, how does it differentiate "blush-worthy" websites from others?
# [20:36] <@ehsan> (just curious)
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# [20:37] <mmc> ehsan, we pulled the initial list from alexa's top 100 or so adult sites and adult terms
# [20:37] <@ehsan> ah ok
# [20:37] <gwagner> jduell, fabrice: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5734681
# [20:37] <gwagner> thats from a debug build
# [20:37] <@ehsan> so a static list?
# [20:37] <@ehsan> mmc: neat idea though!
# [20:38] <mmc> ehsan, it's static but the user can add sites to their own list
# [20:38] <@ehsan> gotcah
# [20:38] <@ehsan> er, gotcha, even!
# [20:38] <mmc> we had lots of plans to improve this but they never materialized
# [20:38] <mmc> :)
# [20:38] <@ehsan> mmc: thanks!
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# [20:38] <mmc> np :)
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# [20:38] <jduell> gwagner: ah!.. CookieServiceParent: GetAppInfoFromParams: FATAL error: SerializedLoadContext from child is null
# [20:39] <jduell> So we need to find how that changed to null
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# [20:39] <jduell> gwagner: any chance you can set a breakpoint and get a stack trace?
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# [20:39] <jduell> Which app were you running?
# [20:40] <gwagner> jduell: twitter
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# [20:40] <gwagner> fresh installed after make reset-gaia
# [20:40] <@ehsan> botond: btw I have a new fling value for you to try out when you have a sec
# [20:41] <jduell> gwagner: I'll be back online in about 30 minutes... I'll look at it then
# [20:41] <gwagner> ok
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# [20:45] <gwagner> fabrice: maybe 1042881?
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# [20:46] <fabrice> gwagner: worth trying a local backout, but that would be surprising
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# [20:48] <fabrice> gwagner: actually, it was merged at 4:02am PST. When do we build nightlies?
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# [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 4am pst
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# [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fabrice: last b2g nightlies came off this merge - https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startID=27227&endID=27228
# [20:50] <fabrice> thanks. Looks like 1042881 is not in
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# [20:51] <jesup> mccr8: What's the magic again to get fix-linux-stack.pl to fix the output of LSAN? Or am I using the wrong tool?
# [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fabrice: it was in the b-i merge prior to that push
# [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so yes it is
# [20:52] <fabrice> ha ok
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# [20:54] <jesup> jimm: any luck? (I realize I'm a broken record).
# [20:54] <mccr8> jesup: well it should just work if you run it on it. I think...
# [20:55] <mccr8> jesup: is the ASan symbolizer set up?
# [20:55] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping?
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# [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yo
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# [20:56] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: care to clarify this please? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043088#c2
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# [20:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: POSIX vs. BASH or something to that effect
# [20:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I ran into similar issues when I was making changes to that file awhile back
# [20:57] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I still don't understand...
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# [20:57] <@ehsan> but I'm willing to just use a switch :)
# [20:57] <jesup> mccr8: automatic setupof the symbolizer has never worked for me
# [20:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> apparently the "case" style is more widely-accepted than if's and such
# [20:57] <@ehsan> ok
# [20:57] <@ehsan> ty
# [20:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but I'm sure the various *nix gurus here can explain better why
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# [20:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> makes things way harder to follow IMO :P
# [20:57] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: (fwiw other places in that file use if ;)
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# [20:58] <mccr8> jesup: you need to point ASAN_SYMBOLIZER_PATH at the llvm-symbolizer
# [20:58] <jesup> mccr8: let me try again
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# [20:58] <mccr8> I think with that working you shouldn't need fix_stack...
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# [20:59] <mccr8> I only sort of know how this all works
# [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586113#c10
# [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ask glandium I guess :P
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# [21:00] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: actually I'll do something even fancier!
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# [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: ultimately, if glandium's happy, I'm happy :P
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# [21:04] <jesup> mccr8: tried in .mozconfig and in env vars: didn't work in either
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# [21:04] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :)
# [21:04] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: btw, libffi seems to be quite unmaintained
# [21:04] <@ehsan> no word on my patch there yet
# [21:04] <mccr8> hmm. I don't know then. :(
# [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: you can try pinging atgreen in #libffi on freenode when he's around
# [21:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but yeah, he kind of fits it in when he's got free time
# [21:05] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I don't care enough :)
# [21:05] <@ehsan> the patches are there once they decide they're interested
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# [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, and given that we're probably the only people who care about msvcc.sh, I doubt he'll have much to say
# [21:06] <jesup> mccr8: looks like it's the NNNN INFO at the front of the lines
# [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: (that said, don't forget to land an in-tree patch too :))
# [21:06] <mccr8> jesup: ah yeah, you have to use some kind of sed script to clear that out. :(
# [21:07] <jesup> If I hand-delete them, it works
# [21:07] <jesup> gah
# [21:07] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: will do
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# [21:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/bdd901635243 - Fabrice Desré - backout 5a84a1907654 (bug 1042881) for causing app startup failures r=me
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# [21:21] <mconley> can anybody explain to me how synthesized mouse move events are related (if at all) to layout reflow?
# [21:22] <@ehsan> botond: user_pref("apz.overscroll.fling_friction", "0.07");
# [21:22] <Yuhong> http://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/2aziia/an_irc_chat_about_xp_sp2_support_in_firefox/
# [21:22] <Yuhong> Any better references for the decision? I am looking for public feedback.
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# [21:24] <Yuhong> BTW, Mozilla forgot to mention that Server 2003 RTM support was also discontinued when XP SP1 support was.
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# [21:35] <jesup> mccr8: cut -c 10- <logfile | $ASAN_SYMBOLIZER_PATH | c++filt
# [21:36] <mccr8> ah ok
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# [21:44] <jesup> jimm: Saw your message. Not sure what's up - I get consistent crashes in NotifyGeckoEventDispatch() -> Listener(() -> ::get() -> nsRefPtr<WeakReference....>::operator->(), after some SyncStack asserts.
# [21:45] <BenWa> jgriffin: ping, we should remove these printf http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/479a86c78731
# [21:45] <jgriffin> BenWa: fine with me!
# [21:45] <jimm> jesup: comment out |channel->Listener()->ProcessRemoteNativeEventsInInterruptCall();| and try it
# [21:46] <jgriffin> BenWa: I'll file a bug for it
# [21:46] <BenWa> jgriffin: I’ll just land with no bug, this is really trivial
# [21:46] <jgriffin> ok
# [21:46] <jimm> jesup: currently looking at these buffers we send via SendEncode just to confirm they are in good shape
# [21:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=1f216e2e339e - 35 changesets
# [21:47] <bent> jimm, dunno if this is relevant, but i think we used to only have one toplevel protocol (and hence channel) that used 'intr' messages... Now we have two, so that whole static business seems scary to me
# [21:48] <jesup> jimm: ok. Be surprised if they weren't; we run extensive tests on other platforms with ASAN, etc. Plus it would mess up video.
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# [21:49] <jesup> bent: Yeah; I don't know *what* these StaticSyncFrames are, but even the name seems worrying
# [21:50] <jesup> And am I right that Windows implements all this very differently than Mac/Linux?
# [21:50] <bent> yes, due to windows sync messages
# [21:51] <jesup> bent/jimm: we could side-step the problem, if we could somehow return a newly-created Shmem in a sync (not intr) NeedShmem()
# [21:51] <jesup> Right now that doesn't work, which is why we use intr
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# [21:51] <bent> yeah, i don't know how much work that would be
# [21:51] <bent> but long term i would think we want that
# [21:52] <BenWa> jgriffin: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5735631 - just waiting on inbound
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# [21:52] <jgriffin> thanks
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# [21:55] <BenWa> With my luck something is going to be reading stdin and asserting on it :P
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# [21:59] <jesup> bent: yeah, but it might sidestep a world of hurt debugging this - and in the end we might be forced to anyways. Perhaps we should at least scope it
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# [22:03] <jimm> jesup, bent: you can disable the SyncStackFrame stuff and run without it. I still get crashes in various odd places in ipc code.
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# [22:04] <jimm> particularly in CxxStackFrames
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# [22:05] <@smaug> zac: pong
# [22:06] <fabrice> jduell: we figured out the cookie crash
# [22:06] <zac> smaug, hey, I was just trying to understand your comment in the bug I ni? you on.. I don't understand the tabParent and the relationship between the app that was killed and the gallery app that I was testing in. can you explain it briefly?
# [22:07] <jimm> bent: what's wrong with having two top level protocols that are make rpc calls?
# [22:07] <jesup> jimm: huh. What does the SyncStackFrame stuff do?
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# [22:07] <@smaug> zac: I don't know which app died
# [22:07] <@smaug> but looks like some did
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# [22:07] <zac> OperatorVariant is an app
# [22:07] <@smaug> ah
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# [22:08] <@smaug> so at least that died
# [22:08] <qDot> OpVar is a very weird app.
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# [22:08] <zac> I just thought they were parallel iframes rather than ahving a relationship to one another
# [22:08] <@smaug> zac: and you're sure you're using the right tabParent there?
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# [22:08] <jimm> jesup: I really don't remember much about it. has to do with native event loop spinning and flash.
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# [22:09] <zac> oh I'm not sure smaug, I'm just trying to debug it on behalf of the marionette developers because they don't know what is going on either
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# [22:09] <jesup> jimm: which makes me concerned right there.... :-/
# [22:09] <@smaug> zac: tabParent can be null when either we don't have the remove app running yet, or it has died/been killed
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# [22:10] <bent> jimm, well, like i said, i have no idea if it's relevant :) I just saw something about static frames, and now we have more than one channel that could use them
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# [22:10] <bent> jimm, who knows if that was a design consideration...
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# [22:10] <jimm> yay
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# [22:11] <jesup> bent/jimm: I'll note I haven't loaded anything with flash into my test browser.
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# [22:11] <zac> jgriffin, smaug do you think on like 118 of marionette-listeners.js maybe we're getting the wrong iframe because the message.index is outdated (an app has been killed in that time) ?
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# [22:11] <jesup> Of course, I worry what happens if I do
# [22:11] <zac> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/marionette/marionette-listener.js
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# [22:12] <jesup> and there may be hidden assumptions about the way Flash interacts with the protocol
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# [22:12] <jgriffin> zac: oh yes that's quite likely, I didn't realize we were locating things by index there
# [22:12] <jesup> or untested edge cases
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# [22:14] <bent> jesup, it's less to do with flash and more to do with any plugin that makes a native Windows window
# [22:15] <zac> jgriffin, do you think that code could be done better?
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# [22:16] <jgriffin> possibly, I'm not sure, would have to spend a while looking at it
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# [22:17] <jimm> bent: ah yes, I remember this, for things like the print dialog in flash or some other plugin
# [22:17] <AutomatedTester> jgriffin: zac: that code tries to use the frame that it is currently in use
# [22:17] <AutomatedTester> so are we saying the OOP frame has crashed?
# [22:17] <jimm> we have to spin the parent event loop to flush parent oriented messages sent sync from the child window
# [22:18] <jgriffin> I think we're saying a different frame crashed
# [22:18] <jimm> jesup: ^
# [22:18] <jesup> jimm: so, we don't need that in GMP.... (window opening). GMP will be HEAVILY sandboxed (which is why we won't allow Shmem allocations from within it
# [22:18] <AutomatedTester> thats what I mean by OOP
# [22:18] <jgriffin> and that might be causing our index to be off
# [22:18] <zac> AutomatedTester, yes a separate frame (app) crashed
# [22:18] <AutomatedTester> a child OOP frame
# [22:18] <jimm> jesup: yes, that's true, it's very specific to oop plugin issues
# [22:19] <jimm> but you all share the same ipc code so..
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# [22:19] <jesup> Maybe we need a 'sync-with-line-jumping-allowed' protocol that's not intr?
# [22:20] <zac> AutomatedTester, what's the child a child of? system app or the app under test?
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# [22:20] <AutomatedTester> zac: all
# [22:20] <jesup> that's all that's needed, is to allow the Shmem async notification to jump ahead of the Reply
# [22:20] <AutomatedTester> app under test even
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# [22:23] <jgriffin> yeah looking at the code we don't really handle the case where a frame just disappears
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# [22:25] <AutomatedTester> jgriffin: to be fair... a frame crashing below us is something that we should error badly for
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# [22:25] <AutomatedTester> not error badly but throw toys out the cot
# [22:25] <jgriffin> AutomatedTester: yeah I'm not sure how big of a problem this is
# [22:26] <AutomatedTester> my gut feel is that making Marionette handle this could mask a bigger problem
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# [22:32] <jimm> jesup: I keep seeing this - https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5736136
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# [22:32] <zac> AutomatedTester, what do you think is the bigger problem possibly?
# [22:33] <jimm> jespuand that's with SyncStackFrame disabled
# [22:33] <jimm> oops
# [22:33] <jimm> jesup: ^
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# [22:33] <zac> AutomatedTester, this frame is killed by OOM killer, not crashing, and it's not the AUT. when it happens in real life the user doesn't even know that app has died. so I don't think marionette should either
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# [22:34] <AutomatedTester> zac: what happens in real life then?
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# [22:34] <AutomatedTester> the app disappears?
# [22:34] <jesup> jimm: can you do a full stack dump? (locals)
# [22:34] <zac> AutomatedTester, the app is already in the background. it's just silently killed. the user never knows
# [22:35] <jesup> jimm: that's weird, but if we're messing up memory in Windows... We run under ASAN and I've never seen a hit anything like that
# [22:35] <AutomatedTester> zac: the code you pointed shouldnt work if the app is in the background
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# [22:36] <zac> AutomatedTester, yeah I agree.. but have you had a look at the bug?
# [22:36] <jesup> jimm: have you seen any of the assertions or crashes I hit?
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# [22:37] <AutomatedTester> zac: I have. that line is trying to do a tap on an iframe that *should* be visible
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# [22:38] <jimm> jesup: sure, although currently I have all that code disabled to get past any issues with SyncStackFrame
# [22:38] <jesup> jimm: can you give me your patch to disable those?
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# [22:38] <jesup> jimm: is it valid to disable them?
# [22:38] <jimm> sure, give me a sec, I'm in the middle of another run
# [22:39] <jimm> for testing sure
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# [22:39] <jimm> jesup: I think we have an issue there, so I can look at that. maybe if we get past it we can find any remaining issues.
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# [22:46] <RyanVM> froydnj: should I be worried about hitting a couple of these on inbound? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=44996004&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [22:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c45c6512e4d - Botond Ballo - Bug 1046904 - Identify scrollgrab layers in the APZC tree log. r=kats
# [22:47] <@smaug> have we started to do more js warnings about chrome js
# [22:47] <@smaug> I see stuff like System JS : WARNING resource://gre/modules/HealthReport.jsm:1060 - useless expression
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# [22:47] <@smaug> or System JS : WARNING resource://gre/modules/Metrics.jsm:26 - useless expression
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# [22:51] <@gavin> smaug: is that a strict warning?
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# [22:51] <@gavin> (assuming you're using a debug build)
# [22:51] <froydnj> RyanVM: looks like some merge conflicts =/
# [22:52] <RyanVM> froydnj: merge conflicts? This is on inbound prior to any merging
# [22:52] <froydnj> RyanVM: o.O
# [22:52] <froydnj> RyanVM: let me look a little closer
# [22:52] <RyanVM> AFAICT, the only common thread is "slave that recently ran another build on inbound prior to that"
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# [22:52] <RyanVM> i.e. I'm suspecting leftover state
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# [22:53] <froydnj> RyanVM: lol
# [22:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e21dd0c363f8 - Mark Finkle - Bug 1012677 - Investigate delayed initialization of nsILoginManager in Firefox for Android r=margaret
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# [22:53] <froydnj> RyanVM: so d3.js was added monday
# [22:54] <froydnj> RyanVM: somehow I guess all the builders since my push have been using a fresh tree?
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# [22:54] <froydnj> RyanVM: and we've only just started to get builders doing incrementals off pre-my-push trees?
# [22:54] <froydnj> RyanVM: not sure how to explain it otherwise
# [22:55] <RyanVM> froydnj: I think this is slaves running their second build after your push landed
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# [22:55] <RyanVM> yeah, first incremental with your patch was fine
# [22:55] <RyanVM> second not
# [22:55] <@smaug> gavin: debug build yes, but it didn't say anything about strict
# [22:55] <@smaug> I copy-pasted the whole warning
# [22:55] <RyanVM> froydnj: i just clobbered OSX across trunk, but I'm not horribly optimistic this won't come back on their second build again
# [22:55] <froydnj> RyanVM: I am amused by https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=81ce8a74aba1
# [22:56] <jimm> jesup: posted that patch to the bug
# [22:56] <froydnj> RyanVM: insofar as those files missing ought to trigger test failures
# [22:56] <RyanVM> smaug: is this bug 1046964 ?
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# [22:56] <RyanVM> froydnj: that would require the build to finish and start tests, no?
# [22:56] <jimm> jesup: seems to help with parent crashes. I still see some deserialization errors in the child that cause that process to abort.
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# [22:57] <RyanVM> froydnj: the tests on that push are from the retrigger
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# [22:57] <froydnj> RyanVM: the retriggered build?
# [22:57] <RyanVM> froydnj: yes
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# [22:57] <RyanVM> the first build failed...so no tests were run off it
# [22:57] <froydnj> RyanVM: right, so the shiny moz.build file doesn't include the files that the packaging step was complaining about
# [22:57] <jimm> jesup: I have a meeting to go to right now, but will keep poking at it after I'm free.
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# [22:58] <froydnj> RyanVM: so if there were tests referencing those files, they ought to have failed
# [22:58] <froydnj> like M-dt
# [22:58] <@smaug> RyanVM: thanks
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# [22:58] <froydnj> unless this is a case of devtools tests being disabled or something
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# [23:00] <froydnj> RyanVM: anyway, I think we need a fixup push to get those things into moz.build
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# [23:04] <RyanVM> froydnj: sounds like that's worth a direct landing on m-c and immediate mergearound
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# [23:04] <froydnj> RyanVM: bother, just stuck it on inbound
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# [23:05] <RyanVM> froydnj: things that cause intermittent bustage and are already merged around tend to be highish-priority :)
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# [23:05] <froydnj> RyanVM: that's what sheriffs are for :p
# [23:05] <RyanVM> and yes, sure would have been nice if those failures had started consistently happening about 30min earlier than they did :\
# [23:05] <froydnj> anyway
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# [23:06] <froydnj> KWierso|sheriffduty: I can land on m-c if you can handle the merge-around, or you can do the transplant and merge-around
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# [23:06] <froydnj> KWierso|sheriffduty: which do you prefer?
# [23:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> froydnj: I can get it
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# [23:07] <RyanVM> we're backed up on trunk too
# [23:07] <froydnj> KWierso|sheriffduty++
# [23:07] <froydnj> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
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# [23:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a0e55548ad43 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to b-i
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