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  11. # [00:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9ace87ff1c55 - Julien Sanchez - Bug 680392 - Localize trademark notice string in about:firefox. r=margaret
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  28. # [00:07] <@khuey> mchang: ping
  29. # [00:08] <mchang> khuey: pong
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  31. # [00:08] <@khuey> mchang: I hit http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/da04cf3f8a06/widget/gonk/nsAppShell.cpp#l714 on my phone earlier today
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  33. # [00:08] <mchang> khuey: hmm interesting, what phone?
  34. # [00:08] <@khuey> mchang: nexus 5
  35. # [00:08] <mchang> khuey: is it reliabily reproducible?
  36. # [00:09] <@khuey> no
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  38. # [00:09] <mchang> khuey: hmph, yeah so before if we had unknown touch events, we would just ignore them
  39. # [00:10] <mchang> khuey: now we assert on them
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  41. # [00:10] <mchang> khuey: i don’t have a nexus 5 with me, but if you want, if you can print http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/da04cf3f8a06/widget/gonk/nsAppShell.cpp#l685
  42. # [00:10] <mchang> that’d be helpful
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  45. # [00:11] <@khuey> mchang: I can add logging and see if I hit it again
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  47. # [00:12] <mchang> khuey: thanks! And ifyou want, you can enable the two prefs - http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/thebes/gfxPrefs.h?from=gfxPrefs.h&case=true#198
  48. # [00:12] <mchang> khuey: scrolling should be smoother
  49. # [00:12] <@khuey> mchang: this feels like you're trying to get me to be your guinea pig
  50. # [00:13] <mchang> khuey: ha i said if you want :)
  51. # [00:13] <mchang> khuey: but i mean it in earnest heh
  52. # [00:13] <@khuey> :P
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  55. # [00:13] <mchang> khuey: btw never knew about annotate,
  56. # [00:13] * mchang is amazed
  57. # [00:14] <@khuey> mchang: blame is teh best thing
  58. # [00:14] <@khuey> mchang: it tells me who to yell at
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  60. # [00:15] <mchang> khuey: haha glad you have a tool for that
  61. # [00:15] <mchang> khuey: at least its directed then :)
  62. # [00:15] <@khuey> I try to never yell at the wrong person
  63. # [00:15] <@khuey> it would diminish the effectiveness
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  80. # [00:27] <@ehsan> botond:
  81. # [00:27] <@ehsan> https://github.com/Mozilla-TWQA/B2G-flash-tool
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  131. # [00:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d052bb1a13b8 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1061961: Fully initialize ScriptSourceObjects built by XDR and for Function.prototype. r=shu
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  138. # [00:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9fd663519e7e - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014994 - Part 1: Register RemoteTabsPanel. r=margaret
  139. # [00:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/46d4058a0b32 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014994 - Part 2: Add RemoteTabsPanel configuration migration. r=margaret
  140. # [00:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/beaa7b7dad99 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014994 - Part 3: Display static views in Remote Tabs panel when Account is missing or unhealthy. r=mcomella
  141. # [00:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/06839323ed2f - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014994 - Part 4: Display list of Remote Tabs when possible. r=margaret
  142. # [00:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/11d61fe8011c - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014994 - Part 5: Enable swipe-to-refresh Remote Tabs list. r=margaret
  143. # [00:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/287bd4d03bbc - Nick Alexander - Bug 1014994 - Part 6: Display device type icon. r=margaret
  144. # [00:49] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f7d2afe6fbb0 - Nick Alexander - Bug 785199 - Add context menu to Remote Tabs home panel. r=margaret
  145. # [00:49] <decoder> has anyone ever seen this error?
  146. # [00:49] <decoder> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=47428216&tree=Try&full=1#error12
  147. # [00:49] <decoder> it's with clang trunk
  148. # [00:49] <decoder> havent tried to reproduce locally yet
  149. # [00:50] <decoder> glandium: ^^
  150. # [00:51] <briansmith> I will fix the redness from my checkin with another, simple, checkin
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  152. # [00:52] <glandium> decoder: that seems like a bug in whatever assembler clang is using
  153. # [00:54] <glandium> decoder: although they do have a test case for that specific error https://llvm.org/svn/llvm-project/llvm/trunk/test/MC/ARM/dwarf-asm-multiple-sections.s
  154. # [00:54] <glandium> would be worth checking why they added that
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  157. # [00:55] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: KWierso|afk: Tomcat|afk: I apologize, but I landed Bug 1062566 DONTBUILD again by accident. I don't think any of the the Android B jobs actually run |make check|, so the tests may not have run by the time this gets to merge.
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  159. # [00:55] <glandium> decoder: http://reviews.llvm.org/D2697
  160. # [00:55] <RyanVM|afk> nalexander: i'll trigger a linux32 build on fx-team tip
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  162. # [00:56] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: thanks. I couldn't figure out how to do that in self serve. What do I need to do?
  163. # [00:56] <glandium> decoder: seems to me it's a bug that it complains about empty sections
  164. # [00:56] <RyanVM|afk> nalexander: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/How_To/Trigger_arbitrary_jobs
  165. # [00:56] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: ta. Thanks for triggering.
  166. # [00:56] <RyanVM|afk> nalexander: np
  167. # [00:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d8adc6d6faa - Brian Smith - Bug 1061483 follow-up: remove now-unused deleteCharArray function, r=me, a=bustage
  168. # [00:57] <RyanVM|afk> nalexander: by "landed the same patch" do you mean it's going to fail again?
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  170. # [00:57] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: no, that was misleading.
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  172. # [00:57] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: updated patch (to fix the test environment), just didn't |qref -e| the message.
  173. # [00:57] <RyanVM|afk> ok
  174. # [00:58] <RyanVM|afk> nalexander: you can see the pending build on fx-team
  175. # [00:58] * RyanVM|afk isn't really going to be around watching things, so please do
  176. # [00:58] <briansmith> My just-landed patch will fix the build breakage from my previous checkin.
  177. # [00:58] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: I will.
  178. # [00:58] <RyanVM|afk> nalexander: thanks
  179. # [00:58] <nalexander> RyanVM|afk: thanks for your help.
  180. # [00:58] <RyanVM|afk> np
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  183. # [01:00] <decoder> glandium: ok. if that's the case, then i should be able to repro this locally, right
  184. # [01:00] <decoder> ?
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  195. # [01:05] <bz_away> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/wifi/tests/wifi_access_point_test.html?force=1
  196. # [01:05] <bz_away> Does that test ever run, and if so why?
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  202. # [01:07] <@khuey> I doubt it ever runs
  203. # [01:07] * bz does too
  204. # [01:07] <bz> since it's not in any manifest
  205. # [01:07] <glandium> decoder: yes
  206. # [01:07] <hub> so we download the h264 binary pluging without telling the user?
  207. # [01:07] * bz ponders filing a bug on the test author
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  209. # [01:08] <glandium> hub: yes
  210. # [01:08] <hub> *sigh*
  211. # [01:08] <decoder> glandium: okay, will try
  212. # [01:08] <glandium> hub: indeed
  213. # [01:08] <hub> and how does one disable it?
  214. # [01:08] <decoder> glandium: I have another question (unrelated). it's mac osx, but maybe you have an idea
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  216. # [01:08] <glandium> hub: about:addons
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  218. # [01:08] <decoder> glandium: I'm trying to upgrade our clang also on mac, i built it on 10.9 and then uploaded it to releng, made a try push to one of our builders (which run 10.7 i think)
  219. # [01:08] <bz> I guess this test is not really using our harnesses either
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  221. # [01:09] <decoder> now the build system says it's a cross compiler
  222. # [01:09] <hub> glandium: I don't see it :-/
  223. # [01:09] <decoder> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=47427804&tree=Try&full=1
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  225. # [01:09] <decoder> (search for cross-compiler"
  226. # [01:09] <decoder> )
  227. # [01:09] <decoder> do you have an idea how it actually checks that?
  228. # [01:09] <glandium> decoder: how did you build it?
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  233. # [01:09] <decoder> glandium: with our clang build script. I had to do some modifications (include libcxx and use --enable-libcpp), but thats it
  234. # [01:10] <decoder> deployment target variable is set to 10.7
  235. # [01:10] <hub> oh it is in plugins
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  242. # [01:13] <NeilAway> Callek: yeah, I can't believe someone downvoted that
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  244. # [01:13] <RyanVM|afk> njn_: one of the chat maintainers
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  246. # [01:13] <njn> RyanVM|afk: "chat"?
  247. # [01:14] <glandium> decoder: sadly, the most important information is not in that log ; you'd need /builds/slave/try-osx64-d-000000000000000000/build/obj-firefox/intl/icu/target/config.log
  248. # [01:14] <RyanVM|afk> njn: instantbird?
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  250. # [01:14] <decoder> glandium: yea, i saw that already :( but if you look further up, it says cross-compiler yes, while in regular Mac build logs, it says "no"
  251. # [01:14] <njn> RyanVM|afk: ah, ok
  252. # [01:14] <decoder> so i suspect thats already wrong and not supposed to work that way
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  255. # [01:15] <decoder> ICU f** up the cross compiler build then is actually something not surprising me
  256. # [01:15] <decoder> given the high quality of the icu build system
  257. # [01:15] <decoder> i was wondering why it says cross compiler in the first place (and thats just our configure detecting it as such)
  258. # [01:16] <glandium> decoder: maybe the default target of that clang changed from x86-64 to x86_
  259. # [01:16] <glandium> ?
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  262. # [01:17] <decoder> glandium: so, the compiler we're talking about here says:
  263. # [01:17] <decoder> Target: x86_64-apple-darwin13.3.0 (when i run it locally)
  264. # [01:17] <decoder> in the log, it somewhere says something about host x86_64-apple-darwin11.2.0
  265. # [01:17] <glandium> decoder: what does the one we currently use say?
  266. # [01:17] <decoder> shouldnt that fit?
  267. # [01:18] <decoder> hm.. i would love to check that. it's unfortunate that you cant simply download these tooltool archives
  268. # [01:18] <njn> !seen aleth
  269. # [01:18] <glandium> decoder: try on http://tooltool.pub.build.mozilla.org/temp-sm-stuff/sha512/
  270. # [01:18] <firebot> aleth was last seen 11 hours, 29 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'Right. Thanks!' in #perf.
  271. # [01:18] <@killer> I don't know who aleth is.
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  274. # [01:19] <glandium> decoder: not there :(
  275. # [01:19] <Callek> glandium: fwiw that path is INTENDED not to be the generic public url
  276. # [01:19] <Callek> since its explicitly just for SM
  277. # [01:19] <decoder> glandium: oh, I didnt know we had a pub place at all ^^
  278. # [01:19] <glandium> Callek: yeah, but if SM uses our compiler, then it's there too
  279. # [01:20] <glandium> but it isn't
  280. # [01:20] <Callek> sure
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  282. # [01:20] <glandium> when will we finally have a public tooltool repo?
  283. # [01:21] <Callek> glandium: unsure
  284. # [01:21] <Callek> glandium: what sha do we need for decode?
  285. # [01:21] <Callek> and what is it?
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  287. # [01:22] <glandium> Callek: 86662ebc0ef650490559005948c4f0cb015dad72c7cac43732c2bf2995247081e30c139cf8008d19670a0009fc302c4eee2676981ee3f9ff4a15c01af22b783b
  288. # [01:22] <glandium> Callek: it's clang.tar.bz2 from browser/config/tooltool-manifests/macosx64/releng.manifest
  289. # [01:23] <Callek> glandium: should be present now
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  291. # [01:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c00146008c2 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 1062733 - Keep track of all TrackBuffer decoders rather than only fully initialized ones. r=cajbir
  292. # [01:24] <Callek> decoder: http://tooltool.pub.build.mozilla.org/temp-sm-stuff/sha512/86662ebc0ef650490559005948c4f0cb015dad72c7cac43732c2bf2995247081e30c139cf8008d19670a0009fc302c4eee2676981ee3f9ff4a15c01af22b783b
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  303. # [01:28] <glandium> Callek: SM should be using that, btw ;)
  304. # [01:29] <Callek> glandium: very very likely
  305. # [01:29] <Callek> I'm still trying to dig out of being behind on stuff
  306. # [01:29] <Callek> for example SeaMonkey is broken on windows right now
  307. # [01:29] <Callek> (due to no tooltool)
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  309. # [01:30] <Callek> also on linux we're unable to use tooltool afaict
  310. # [01:30] <Callek> well tooltool for compiler
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  312. # [01:30] <Callek> (sm and tb have no_tooltool=1 in mozconfigs)
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  319. # [01:35] <decoder> Callek: thanks!
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  322. # [01:37] <decoder> downloading that and checking what it says
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  325. # [01:38] <Callek> it says "i'm a clang tar bz2 file, enjoy
  326. # [01:38] <Callek> :-)
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  340. # [01:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3de899a46769 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 1061960 - In about:memory, support the loading of memory reports embedded in crash dumps. r=mccr8.
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  344. # [01:50] <decoder> glandium: it says x86_64-apple-darwin13.3.0 as well
  345. # [01:50] <decoder> hrm
  346. # [01:50] * decoder is puzzled
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  349. # [01:54] <decoder> glandium: so --version says exactly the same except of course the first line (version)
  350. # [01:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d7f5a5bc03e3 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  351. # [01:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b06708e05c5b - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  353. # [01:55] <eeejay> RyanVM|afk, ping
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  355. # [01:57] <decoder> i guess I really need a 10.7 system to figure out what exactly it's complaining about here -.-
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  358. # [01:57] <eeejay> who is sheriff?
  359. # [01:57] <@khuey> KWierso|sheriffduty: ?
  360. # [01:58] <KWierso|sheriffduty> eeejay: hi
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  362. # [01:58] <eeejay> KWierso|sheriffduty, RyanVM|afk just cherry picked the last commit out of a three commit PR in gaia
  363. # [01:58] <eeejay> Kwierso|sheriffduty, bug 1049824
  364. # [01:59] <eeejay> Kwierso|sheriffduty, tests will fail badly if the other commits don't go in as well/
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  368. # [02:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ab1812b495fd - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  371. # [02:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> eeejay: so we need https://github.com/eeejay/gaia/commit/b8e3667d0995cbdfc0d9a0e860958dda2ed9759a and https://github.com/eeejay/gaia/commit/4cab5a2224e8f8c75581379290eb37d3b3bfe2aa on v2.1?
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  374. # [02:01] <eeejay> Kwierso|sheriffduty, correct
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  376. # [02:01] <eeejay> Kwierso|sheriffduty, the should apply cleanly in any order
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  379. # [02:03] <KWierso|sheriffduty> eeejay: pushed
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  381. # [02:03] <eeejay> Kwierso|sheriffduty, thanks!
  382. # [02:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> eeejay: commented in the bug
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  386. # [02:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d7e196cbd9d - Blake Kaplan - Bug 1045987 - Fix doorhanger notifications for the login manager. r=billm/dolske
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  401. # [02:13] <jya> glandium: njn pointed me to you…
  402. # [02:13] <jya> in reference to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062596
  403. # [02:14] <njn> jya: lol
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  405. # [02:14] <njn> sorry
  406. # [02:14] <jya> it appears that with jemalloc, we get crashes when we enable HW acceleration decoding
  407. # [02:14] <jya> it appears to be related to the stack use.
  408. # [02:14] <jya> by default the stack size per thread is 128kB, and the initialisation in the Apple VT hardware decoder uses over 200kB
  409. # [02:15] <njn> jya: Steven says "And for the time being at least, I'm seeing these crashes (with the 2014-09-03 m-c nightly) with and without jemalloc."
  410. # [02:15] <njn> so maybe it's not jemalloc related?
  411. # [02:15] <jya> bumping the value to 256: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/VideoUtils.h#173
  412. # [02:15] <jya> and I’m not seeing crashes anymore
  413. # [02:15] <jya> njn: probably not, it just triggers it quickly
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  415. # [02:16] <jya> njn: glad you’re following it up :)
  416. # [02:16] <njn> jya: well, if bumping that value stops the crashes...
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  418. # [02:16] <njn> jya: I peeked at the bug, but I'm not following it up per se
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  423. # [02:16] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> njn, glandium, jya: roc pointed out that increasing the stack only uses virtual address space and on a 64 bit architecture that isn't a limited resource.
  424. # [02:16] <jya> now the question, is how much to bump it by (256kB seems fine), kentuckyfriedtakahe recommends doubling that once again to be safe
  425. # [02:16] <jya> I could make the change to the mac platform only
  426. # [02:16] <njn> jya: have you tried Valgrind?
  427. # [02:17] <jya> nope
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  429. # [02:17] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> so my question is whether there is any reason we shouldn't just use the default stack size?
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  431. # [02:17] <jya> if it’s a stack issue, it wouldn’t help me much, its not in code I have access to
  432. # [02:17] <njn> having a mac-only bigger stack seems reasonable
  433. # [02:18] <jya> if it’s per thread, it starts to get big
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  435. # [02:18] <jya> if it’s virtual address only, not so much an issue
  436. # [02:18] * njn wonders why the !defined(MOZ_ASAN) is there, on line 172
  437. # [02:18] <dmajor> please don't double it for 32-bit windows
  438. # [02:18] <jya> dmajor: no no .. not the plan
  439. # [02:18] <njn> dmajor: mac-only! :)
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  441. # [02:19] <kinetik> we're only talking about the stacks of media threads here
  442. # [02:19] <njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: what *is* the default stack size?
  443. # [02:19] <kinetik> it depends on the platform
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  446. # [02:19] <jya> the other alternative, is the VT HW is only available in 10.9, is to actually only double that for mac and running >= 10.9, that limit the scope to 64 bits machines only
  447. # [02:19] <kinetik> we set a small size for media threads because we potentially have a larger number
  448. # [02:19] <njn> zero? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsIThreadManager.idl#23
  449. # [02:19] <njn> "0 means use platform default."
  450. # [02:19] <kinetik> but it's set rather arbitrarily, so let's up it to 256 on osx and be done with it
  451. # [02:20] <jya> njn: I saw that it was 0..
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  453. # [02:20] <njn> kinetik: sounds like a plan
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  455. # [02:20] <dmajor> Why doesn't the stack grow naturally when it exceeds the default size?
  456. # [02:20] <njn> dmajor: do thread stacks do that?
  457. # [02:20] <kinetik> dmajor: not all platforms support that
  458. # [02:20] <jya> dmajor: so we have a job and can fix crashes
  459. # [02:20] <kinetik> e.g. linux needs split stacks for that to work
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  461. # [02:21] <dmajor> sorry I'm confusing reserve and commit
  462. # [02:21] <dmajor> reserve size is all you get, there might not be room to grow it
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  465. # [02:22] <kinetik> njn: btw, the asan thing is because asan needs more stack to run its analysis (bug 750231)
  466. # [02:23] <njn> kinetik: so the default is larger than 128 KiB? makes sense
  467. # [02:23] <kinetik> njn: yes, but how large depends on platform
  468. # [02:23] * njn would love a comment about that
  469. # [02:23] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> njn: the default size is 0, whatever that means.
  470. # [02:23] <kinetik> the default is "whatever the platform does"
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  472. # [02:23] <kinetik> 0 is obviously an invalid stack size
  473. # [02:24] <jya> I’m awlays worried when a program start to be smarter than the OS
  474. # [02:24] <njn> kinetik: presumably the default is typically larger than 128, at least on Linux, otherwise the ASAN thing wouldn't work
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  476. # [02:25] <kinetik> njn: rule of thumb is ~1MB, but there's other fun stuff, like the main thread on linux takes the stack size from ulimit so is usually 8MB, etc
  477. # [02:25] <jya> well, going to make it 256kB for mac only for the time being… will see how that turns out
  478. # [02:25] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> is this just an address space issue or is it actually being backed with real memory?
  479. # [02:26] <jya> that’s a good question too !
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  482. # [02:26] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> because if it is only address space then it doesn't matter for 64 bit at all.
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  484. # [02:26] <kinetik> primarily the former, the large stacks don't tend to end up being fully committed
  485. # [02:26] <kinetik> that's not *exactly* true
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  487. # [02:26] <kinetik> but increasing it to 256kB is not going to be problem
  488. # [02:26] <kinetik> +a
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  491. # [02:29] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> jya: lets make it 256kB for Mac unless glandium has anything to add
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  493. # [02:29] <kinetik> (the media code also uses somewhat fewer threads than it did when we picked that value, too)
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  495. # [02:30] <glandium> kentuckyfriedtakahe: silence is consent
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  524. # [02:49] <jya> glandium: you’re happy if I put you as reviewer?
  525. # [02:50] <glandium> jya: you should find a media person instead
  526. # [02:50] <jya> ok
  527. # [02:51] <KWierso|sheriffduty> njn: bustage
  528. # [02:51] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=47440319&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  536. # [03:01] <njn> KWierso|sheriffduty: dammit
  537. # [03:02] <njn> KWierso|sheriffduty: I bet it's a unified build thing
  538. # [03:02] <njn> KWierso|sheriffduty: just back it out
  539. # [03:02] <njn> and sorry
  540. # [03:02] <KWierso|sheriffduty> can do
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  665. # [04:23] <njn> KWierso: yeah, it was one missing #include that broke non-unified builds. I'm try servering the fix now
  666. # [04:23] <KWierso> njn++
  667. # [04:24] <njn> njn-- for not doing that in the first place
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  721. # [04:51] <ckitching> Anyone encountered a hang with hg trying to push that looks like this (using --debug)? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6322873
  722. # [04:51] <ckitching> I've been getting this for a day now. It's irritating.
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  729. # [04:58] <heycam> botond, red on your push
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  738. # [05:05] <philor> here, let me help you with that
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  740. # [05:06] <heycam> philor, cheers. (looks like it just needs a #include)
  741. # [05:07] <philor> itym "a backout"
  742. # [05:07] <heycam> heh
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  745. # [05:07] * heycam is building locally with the #include, can land it in a min
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  747. # [05:08] <philor> you're in luck, I have a running build that's eating my cpu, so updating my tree is taking forever
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  756. # [05:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3063f757bc97 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1040945 - Part 1: Install Android native libraries directly into lib/ANDROID_CPU_ARCH. r=glandium
  757. # [05:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/42aa92ad76c8 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1040945 - Part 2: Copy native libraries by name in AndroidEclipse backend make target. r=rnewman
  758. # [05:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b9b28b4a92a - Cameron McCormack - Bug 1063194 - Bustage fix. (CLOSED TREE)
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  789. # [05:37] <nigelb> morning KWierso|afk
  790. # [05:37] <KWierso|afk> hi nigelb
  791. # [05:37] <nigelb> How's it going today? :)
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  807. # [05:51] <heycam> tree looks good to open again?
  808. # [05:51] <nigelb> ha
  809. # [05:51] <nigelb> I was going to tell you that I'm reopening
  810. # [05:51] <heycam> no? :)
  811. # [05:51] <heycam> ah cool :p
  812. # [05:51] <bz> openwhat?
  813. # [05:51] * heycam has his finger on the Enter key
  814. # [05:52] <nigelb> go ahead then :)
  815. # [05:52] <heycam> oh, Enter key for pushing, not reopening
  816. # [05:52] <heycam> don't even know how to change the tree status
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  818. # [05:53] <nigelb> oh crap, sorry
  819. # [05:53] <nigelb> re-opened
  820. # [05:53] <heycam> sweet thanks
  821. # [05:54] <heycam> aaaand I missed it
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  824. # [05:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a541e12193bf - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1061054 - Fix more bad implicit constructors in updater; r=bbondy
  825. # [05:54] <bz> Ah, Ehsan the quick
  826. # [05:55] <nigelb> heh
  827. # [05:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f83374a6c136 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 1063321 - Print to the console the paths of all files that DMD opens. r=mccr8.
  828. # [05:55] * heycam hg pull --u --rebases for a second time
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  830. # [05:55] <njn> heycam: sorry dude
  831. # [05:56] <nigelb> that sounds like a sorry, not sorry :P
  832. # [05:56] <njn> heycam: I have another patch to land, want me to wait a few minutes? :)
  833. # [05:56] <heycam> njn, no, do it now
  834. # [05:56] <njn> nigelb: I don't know what you mean
  835. # [05:56] <njn> ;)
  836. # [05:56] <heycam> this pull/rebase thing seems to take about 30 seconds to run on my big patch queue
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  860. # [06:11] <@roc> jdm: you're fast
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  868. # [06:18] <@roc> life must be pretty slow in Melbourne
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  891. # [06:32] <njn> roc: positively glacial
  892. # [06:33] <njn> roc: so slow I've been watching NZ TV shows
  893. # [06:33] <Unfocused> WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?!
  894. # [06:33] * njn wonders how often a good first bug gets two patches from new contributors within 5 minutes of each other
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  896. # [06:33] <njn> Unfocused: well, "show", i.e. singular
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  902. # [06:38] <Unfocused> yea, same question allies.
  903. # [06:38] <yeukhon> how do i look at the most recent crashes on https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/home/products/Firefox ?
  904. # [06:38] <Unfocused> er, applies
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  907. # [06:40] * @roc doesn't know of any regular NZ TV shows
  908. # [06:40] <@roc> ... that I'd watch
  909. # [06:41] <njn> roc: "Top of the Lake", it was
  910. # [06:42] <njn> quite good; very strange
  911. # [06:42] <@roc> oh yeah
  912. # [06:42] <@roc> that was good
  913. # [06:42] <@roc> I watched the whole thing on a plane trip
  914. # [06:42] <@roc> but, if you think that's strange, you need to meet kentuckyfriedtakahe
  915. # [06:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3997eb3154aa - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 1059769 - Add LIBRARY_DEFINES to moz.build, r=glandium.
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  917. # [06:44] <njn> roc: I've met him; he didn't seem that strange
  918. # [06:44] <njn> O_o
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  920. # [06:46] <dmajor> yeukhon: click "Top Crashes" for the version you're interested in. but we just had a merge day so our datasets for the new releases are very small.
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  923. # [06:47] <yeukhon> dmajor: Top Crashers for Firefox 35.0a1 like that
  924. # [06:47] <dmajor> yes
  925. # [06:48] <yeukhon> okay. i also figured to use user-comemnt :p
  926. # [06:48] <yeukhon> thanks
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  1086. # [09:34] <mmcdonough> What is an e10s window?
  1087. # [09:35] <avih> so, when some external app tries to install a firefox addon (e.g. logitech mouse software), and firefox lets me choose if i allow it or not, I only have a checkbox "allow" and a button "continue". if i keep "allow" unchecked and press continue, it still shows up at the addons but disabled. Any way to just flat out disallow external addons installs? and make them not show on the addons page?
  1088. # [09:36] <avih> also, firefox doesn't let me remove the addon. it only has "enable" button on the addons page, but not "remove" like for all other addons
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  1094. # [09:40] <gcp> mmcdonough: window where content and chrome process are seperate
  1095. # [09:40] <mmcdonough> gcp thax!
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  1097. # [09:40] <gcp> mmcdonough: you can create them in nightly via the menu, it'll be the default soon
  1098. # [09:41] <mmcdonough> I saw.
  1099. # [09:41] <mmcdonough> I noticed a bunch of rendering errors in it that didn't show up in normal windows, though.
  1100. # [09:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bb965f10472c - Alan K - Bug 993584 - Initial landing for CloudSync. r=rnewman
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  1118. # [09:48] <bobowen> mmcdonough: if there isn't a bug already (they normally have e10s in the summary), would you file one please
  1119. # [09:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> masayuki: ping
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  1121. # [09:49] <masayuki> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Hi
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  1123. # [09:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey masayuki seems somehow there is a problem with your patch and Mac OSX
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  1125. # [09:50] <masayuki> Oh??
  1126. # [09:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> masayuki: the OS X 10.8 Opt build failed 3 times so far
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  1130. # [09:52] <masayuki> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Hmm, but yesterday's same landing doesn't cause the bustage... (and also the orange) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=53a069425e00
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  1133. # [09:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> masayuki: yeah did a clobber now
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  1136. # [09:54] <masayuki> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Thanks, let's see the result.
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  1138. # [09:55] <pmoore> hi guys - sorry for the spam in release-drivers, if any of you got it - my fault - i've fixed now
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  1142. # [09:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> pmoore: heh inbox bustage ;(
  1143. # [09:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> err ;)
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  1160. # [10:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7be34c88c9ac - Bob Owen - Bug 1018966 - Part 1: Add the main warn only sandbox machinery - with no Chromium code changes. r=bsmedberg
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  1163. # [10:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: done
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  1165. # [10:10] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
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  1244. # [11:31] <NeilAway> avih: you can't remove extensions from system locations, you need to use the extension's own uninstaller for that
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  1254. # [11:38] <avih> NeilAway: can't firefox ignore these "system locations"? e.g. that logitech addon location is at "program files", can't i tell firefox to completely disallow 3rd party auto-install for addon?
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  1256. # [11:40] <avih> best would be to let it ask me, but if i disallow it, thenjust don't show it, but there's no explicit "dissallow" button, and unchecking the "allow" checkbox still makes it appear. sure, i can remove that location and firefox won't see it (which i did), but why can't firefox do it when i disallow the addon?
  1257. # [11:41] <avih> fwiw, this specific addon also don't have an uninstaller in any of the logitech software UI
  1258. # [11:41] <avih> and firefox also doesn't let me remove it
  1259. # [11:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/32cf494262d2 - Jessica Jong - Bug 1038276 - Add a fallback to AOSP's for supported network types. r=edgar
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  1266. # [11:51] <@smaug> hmm, who is sheriff ........
  1267. # [11:51] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty:
  1268. # [11:52] <@smaug> want to back out Bug 937485 ?
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  1272. # [11:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: Alexandre told me he is looking for a quick fix
  1273. # [11:54] <@smaug> ah
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  1275. # [11:56] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: in #b2g: gerard-majax_ smaug, I don't see anything obvious
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  1294. # [12:07] <NeilAway> avih: it doesn't auto-install, it prompts you
  1295. # [12:07] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I think backout would be good
  1296. # [12:07] <NeilAway> avih: the alternative would be for the 3rd party to force its way into your profile, would you prefer that?
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  1298. # [12:07] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: based on #b2g
  1299. # [12:07] <NeilAway> avih: also Firefox doesn't normally have the ability to delete from Program Files
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  1301. # [12:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: yeah will do
  1302. # [12:08] <@smaug> thanks
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  1305. # [12:09] <avih> NeilAway: in other words, you're saying that firefox keeps it at the addon manager because the alternative (of allowing the user to completely ignore this addon) would be worked around by 3rd party installers as a counter measure?
  1306. # [12:09] <avih> NeilAway: and fwiw, it looks like the addon is installed but disabled (if i disallow it)
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  1309. # [12:10] <avih> i.e. it doesn't look like it didn't install it after the user doesn't tick the "allow" checkbox
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  1313. # [12:15] <avih> and i don't want it to delete anything from program files. i just want it deleted from "firefox's addons registry" which is completely under firefox's control
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  1480. # [14:58] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: err, did I break the android 4 builds?
  1481. # [14:58] <Gijs> That seems... odd, considering what I landed
  1482. # [14:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: nope unless you broke m-i too :) its more a releng thing
  1483. # [14:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> trees closed
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  1485. # [14:58] <Gijs> ok, yeah, I was wondering already :)
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  1526. # [15:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/af2b2c407cf7 - Ting-Yu Lin - Bug 1029943 - Fix test fails on 824080-3/5/7.html, bug558663.html. r=ehsan
  1527. # [15:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/5d1c0e2b1bd2 - Ting-Yu Lin - Bug 1029943 - Enable selection carets by default on b2g. r=ehsan
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  1566. # [15:58] <Optimizer1> is this https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/ broken ? or simply there has been no meeting then ?
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  1578. # [16:04] <@ehsan> padenot: pin
  1579. # [16:04] <@ehsan> or, ping, whichever you prefer ;)
  1580. # [16:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> 1234 ? :)
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  1584. # [16:08] <padenot> ehsan: pong
  1585. # [16:08] <@ehsan> padenot: did you see my email?
  1586. # [16:08] <padenot> I did
  1587. # [16:08] <@ehsan> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks, now I just need your credit card # please :)
  1588. # [16:08] <@ehsan> padenot: cool :)
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  1590. # [16:08] <@ehsan> padenot: any thoughts?
  1591. # [16:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
  1592. # [16:08] <padenot> ehsan: I didn't say I read it :-)
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  1594. # [16:09] <@ehsan> padenot: touche!
  1595. # [16:09] <padenot> ehsan: seriously, I had a quick look
  1596. # [16:09] <@ehsan> no rush, just wanted to make sure you've seen it
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  1599. # [16:09] <padenot> and I also saw that for some reason, cwilso merged his Audio Workers changes in the editor's draft
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  1608. # [16:11] <@ehsan> padenot: yeah I saw that too, but that's ok
  1609. # [16:11] <@ehsan> as long as nobody implements the current spec ;)
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  1611. # [16:12] <@ehsan> padenot: fwiw when I finished writing an email, it felt weird to not have a counter proposal in the end ;)
  1612. # [16:12] <@ehsan> but that requires much more thought than what I've put into this so far...
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  1614. # [16:12] <@ehsan> (would be happy to do it if needed)
  1615. # [16:12] <padenot> ehsan: I don't know that chrome people don't have an implem
  1616. # [16:12] <@ehsan> padenot: it's not in canary
  1617. # [16:13] <padenot> well, yes
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  1619. # [16:13] <@ehsan> that's what matters ;)
  1620. # [16:13] <padenot> ok
  1621. # [16:13] <@ehsan> at any rate, the current spec is basically close to unimplementable for us, so...
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  1623. # [16:13] <padenot> well, that's not ideal
  1624. # [16:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d934dc4a99ac - Dan Minor - Bug 1062937 - Disable TestAudioBuffers unittest for B2G emulator; r=gbrown
  1625. # [16:14] <@ehsan> nope!
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  1629. # [16:19] <pbrosset> Does anyone know a way to observe a DOM element's geometry changes? I've so far had to use MozAfterPaint which isn't very good because paint happens at top level (so not necessarily for my window, and for sure not only for my element)
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  1676. # [16:44] <lygstate> When I embbed a iframe into panel, the panel show/hide state getting unstable, is this a issue of XUL runner?
  1677. # [16:44] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
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  1686. # [16:49] <@ehsan> jdm: unping
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  1688. # [16:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: what's the plan for getting MSG patches on Aurora?
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  1701. # [16:57] <padenot> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I should ask for approval
  1702. # [16:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: please do :)
  1703. # [16:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> much as I love starring those crashes on Aurora still :P
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  1739. # [17:15] <NeilAway> oops I typoed foo(x, &y) as foo(x&y)... still compiled :-(
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  1744. # [17:18] <francisATgwn> smaug: I've got a ticket that I think I need your assistance with, 1019630. I see your name as a reviewer on the highly relevant 1008244. I have a proposed patch. After reading the MDN I believe the next step is to get this ticket assigned to Core and DOM: Events. Is that correct?
  1745. # [17:18] <@smaug> looking
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  1749. # [17:19] <@smaug> francisATgwn: it is not a DOM Events bug
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  1752. # [17:20] <@smaug> looks like layout: form controls or DOM: Core & HTML
  1753. # [17:20] <@smaug> francisATgwn: anyhow, I could review the coming patch
  1754. # [17:20] <francisATgwn> smaug: OK. even though it's related to DOM event propagation and preventDefault()?
  1755. # [17:21] <@smaug> it is not that there is a bug in DOM Events implementation
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  1759. # [17:21] <@smaug> the bug is somewhere in select/option implementation
  1760. # [17:21] <@smaug> not dealing with dom events correctly
  1761. # [17:21] <francisATgwn> I see
  1762. # [17:21] <@smaug> "correctly", since is this stuff defined in the spec?
  1763. # [17:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1c5c185b707 - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 1063445: Update to NSS_3_17_1_BETA2.
  1764. # [17:22] <@smaug> francisATgwn: does html spec say anything about this case ?
  1765. # [17:22] <@smaug> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/
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  1768. # [17:22] <francisATgwn> smaug: I had a hard time understanding the spec, my expectation is based upon what other browsers do
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  1770. # [17:23] <@smaug> right
  1771. # [17:23] <@smaug> francisATgwn: afk for 10mins
  1772. # [17:23] <francisATgwn> smaug: this is a different doc that I looked at, will take a look again
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  1776. # [17:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/697df33eae47 - Brian Hackett - Bug 1062648 - Treat scripts which have been ion compiled or inlined before as hot enough to inline, r=h4writer.
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  1798. # [17:40] <jesup> jimm: ping
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  1801. # [17:40] <jimm> jesup: hey
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  1803. # [17:41] <jesup> jimm: So I was watching the comments (and the Try.... :-( )
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  1805. # [17:42] <jimm> yep
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  1807. # [17:44] <francisATgwn> smaug: the DOM3 Event spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-type-keydown) states that keydown is cancellable and firefox agrees when I check my_keydown_event.cancelable. That spec doesn't say anything specific about the default action associated with keys that do not have an associated character, such as the arrow keys. I'll check the spec you linked for exceptions related to the select element
  1808. # [17:44] <jesup> So, I think the enumeration stuff simply can't run on MediaManager thread right now. so, the primary option left would be to proxy *just* the enumeration part to MainThread (while leaving the rest of the runnables on MediaManager); perhaps by making it go to MainThread first if there's a screen/window share requested, enumerate there, then forward to MediaManager with the enumeration...
  1809. # [17:44] <jesup> ...already complete
  1810. # [17:44] <jesup> Of course, there are some details to deal with on that
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  1812. # [17:45] <jesup> That could minimize the surgery required to the primary runnable flow
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  1814. # [17:47] <jimm> jesup: hmm, I actually like the direction I've gone with this so far, I've just run into a problem with available message pumps on windows.
  1815. # [17:47] <jimm> moving certain parts over to the main thread now feels more complex than what I've got left to do with the current patch set
  1816. # [17:48] <jimm> jesup: the goal was to keep all this background thread work off the main thread yes?
  1817. # [17:49] <jesup> jimm: yes - but we also need something upliftable to beta at this point
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  1819. # [17:49] <jesup> but if the messageloop stuff is fixable, that may be simpler/safer
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  1821. # [17:49] <jesup> and more generally useful to boot
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  1825. # [17:50] <jimm> jesup: you're comfortable uplifting to beta whatever changes you'd need to make to move the enumeration work over to the main thread?
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  1827. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jgraham: baku: ping
  1828. # [17:51] <jesup> jimm: not unless I have too; it wasn't clear how much work/how risky the message-loop stuff is
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  1831. # [17:52] <jimm> jesup: I think both approaches are going to involve a lot of surgery. :)
  1832. # [17:53] <jimm> uplifting either approach to beta seems risky
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  1841. # [17:54] <@smaug> francisATgwn: that is not relevant here
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  1848. # [17:55] <@smaug> francisATgwn: the relevant thing is that should event.preventDefault() affect to <select>/<option> behavior
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  1850. # [17:56] <@smaug> and that is something HTML spec should define
  1851. # [17:56] <@smaug> if there should be some special behavior
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  1853. # [17:56] <francisATgwn> smaug: about halfway through that spec, no mention of event behavior yet
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  1857. # [17:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a8b6905a24a - Bobby Holley - Bug 1063271 - Undo bug 796938 part 10. r=smaug
  1858. # [17:58] <BenWa> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do you know when the latest m-c merge will be mirrored to the b2g gecko repo?
  1859. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> BenWa: i know nothing about that
  1860. # [17:59] <BenWa> ok *waits*
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  1862. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> maybe hwine?
  1863. # [17:59] <BenWa> hwine: do you know when the latest m-c merge will be mirrored to the b2g gecko repo?
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  1866. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> BenWa: you mean the git mirror, right?
  1867. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or do you mean b2g-inbound?
  1868. # [17:59] <BenWa> the git mirror
  1869. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok, then yeah, not me :
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  1871. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> :)
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  1873. # [18:00] <hwine> BenWa: m-c should show up in gecko.git & gecko-dev.git within about 15-30 minutes depending on the size of the commit
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  1875. # [18:00] <BenWa> Ahh, ok
  1876. # [18:00] <hwine> BenWa: if it's longer than that, you should ping in #releng
  1877. # [18:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7ca699bd084b - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  1882. # [18:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hwine: thanks :)
  1883. # [18:04] <sheppy> Hey everyone! Web APIs documentation meeting in one hour! Everyone's welcome to attend: if you care about APIs, feel free to join us. See https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WebAPI-docs-2014-09-05 for agenda and how to join.
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  1892. # [18:08] <@bsmedberg> ++jgraham
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  1894. # [18:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5084109d733 - David Keeler - bug 775370 - (part 1/2) introduce DataStorage r=froydnj r=mmc
  1895. # [18:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd93888452f0 - David Keeler - bug 775370 - (part 2/2) use DataStorage as back-end to nsSiteSecurityService r=briansmith
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  1897. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> jgraham++
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  1900. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> jgraham, so that's your Q1 goal ticked off? :)
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  1930. # [18:26] <francisATgwn> smaug: that spec contains no reference at all to preventDefault
  1931. # [18:27] <jorendorff> Hmm. I have a mochitest that asserts and crashes with my patch. How can I debug that with gdb?
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  1935. # [18:27] <jorendorff> I guess mochitests require SpecialPowers to run, so I can't just `./mach run` and point it at the http server
  1936. # [18:27] <@khuey> jorendorff: run mochitests under gdb?
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  1940. # [18:29] <@smaug> francisATgwn: well, cancelling default action or some such
  1941. # [18:29] <tbsaunde> jorendorff: mach mochitest-plain -d gdb?
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  1943. # [18:30] <francisATgwn> the section on the select element makes no mention of event behavior at all
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  1945. # [18:31] <jorendorff> woot, it works
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  1947. # [18:32] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5581850426c - Hannes Verschore - Bug 1061646 - Inline CheckForInterrupt on windows, just like we do on linux, r=jorendorff
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  1955. # [18:34] <francisATgwn> smaug: I have, to the best of my ability, searched the spec for the relevant exceptions. I am certain that the section about the select element itself is devoid of any relevant exception to the behavior in question. This is the first time I've been involved with firefox development, I don't feel confident that I should be the person to determine if some behavior in firefox is or is not in line with the W3C specification beyond rea
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  1959. # [18:35] <francisATgwn> now then, is there a page on mdn that will help me get up to speed on automated testing in firefox?
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  1965. # [18:38] <@smaug> francisATgwn: not w3c spec, but whatwg ;)
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  1967. # [18:39] <francisATgwn> smaug: sorry. is this spec not based on the w3c?
  1968. # [18:39] <@smaug> francisATgwn: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mochitest might help with the test
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  1971. # [18:39] <@smaug> francisATgwn: W3C spec is based on the WhatWG spec
  1972. # [18:39] <@smaug> it is that way
  1973. # [18:39] <francisATgwn> ok
  1974. # [18:39] <@smaug> and we try to implement what the HTML spec says
  1975. # [18:39] <@smaug> and HTML spec is the WhatWG spec
  1976. # [18:40] <francisATgwn> got it
  1977. # [18:40] <@smaug> francisATgwn: but ok, it is very possible that the spec doesn't define this case
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  1979. # [18:41] <@smaug> I could look at your patch (with test) and then file spec bugs in case all the browser actually have some behavior which the spec doesn't define at all
  1980. # [18:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/abda286460f0 - Richard Newman - Bug 1063274 - Add getLanguage method to BrowserLocaleManager. r=margaret
  1981. # [18:43] <francisATgwn> my understanding is this: given that the whatwg spec doesn't define *an exception to the rule*, then the behavior defined in the DOM3 Event spec takes effect. all browsers I tested (except firefox) conform to the DOM3 Event spec for this use case. therefore, there isn't a bug in the spec, as there is a spec that defines the normal behavior
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  1985. # [18:44] <francisATgwn> am I wrong to think that the DOM3 Event spec is the spec that defines how events behave?
  1986. # [18:44] <bz> francisATgwn: If the spec disagrees with all shipping implementations, then chances are the spec is wrong
  1987. # [18:44] <@smaug> francisATgwn: DOM3 events spec (nor DOM spec) define what the default action is
  1988. # [18:45] <francisATgwn> bz: the spec (whatwg) remains silent about the behavior in question (preventDefault for a keydown event on <select> elements)
  1989. # [18:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c0748b8ad50f - Paul Rouget - Bug 1062748 - Allow connection-manager to use a custom transport. r=jryans
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  1997. # [18:47] <francisATgwn> smaug: as I understand it, no spec defines what the default behavior is for the arrow keys on a keydown event on a select element. The bug I'm working on doesn't care *what* the default behavior of the user agent is in that case; what I care about is that, if an event handler calls my_keydown_event.preventDefault(), then the user agent's default behavior -- *whatever that may be* -- shouldn't happen
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  2000. # [18:48] <viknesh> Unfocused: could u provide some info on this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062264
  2001. # [18:48] <viknesh> i would like to work on it
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  2003. # [18:50] <@smaug> francisATgwn: what I care most is interoperability. This is a case which probably isn't and probably even can't be defined properly in any spec (on mobile select is often totally separate thing and events can work quite differently there). So if IE/Chrome/Safari do something, and FF something else, I'm happy to change the behavior.
  2004. # [18:51] <@smaug> (and then we can file spec bugs too, if at least some of this could be spec'ed)
  2005. # [18:51] <francisATgwn> smaug: then it sounds like we're on the same page. I feel like I've done my due diligence, but I'm hesitant to have confidence in myself because this is my first rodeo
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  2008. # [18:53] <francisATgwn> so the next step is for me to run mochitests to make sure my change doesn't break anything; fix any tests that it breaks to reflect the new definition of "expected behavior" or make a new test to define that expected behavior
  2009. # [18:53] <francisATgwn> are there any other test suites relevant to the code I'm touching?
  2010. # [18:53] <@smaug> shouldn't be
  2011. # [18:53] <@smaug> but if you don't have access to tryserver, I could push your patch there
  2012. # [18:54] <@smaug> running all the mochitest might take quite some time
  2013. # [18:54] <@smaug> (I haven't run all the test locally for ages)
  2014. # [18:54] <francisATgwn> I'm unaware of what tryserver is, I'll have to read up on mdn after lunch
  2015. # [18:54] <@smaug> s/test/tests/
  2016. # [18:54] <francisATgwn> they run on linux, right?
  2017. # [18:54] <@smaug> sure
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  2019. # [18:55] <@smaug> tryserver runs all the mochitests and other tests on all the platforms (or one can filter out it to run just some tests)
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  2027. # [18:58] <josh> bsmedberg: Is it our intention to entirely replace nsAutoPtr in favor of mozilla::UniquePtr? Or do we want to preserve nsAutoPtr for some reason?
  2028. # [18:58] <@smaug> froydnj: ^
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  2032. # [18:59] <dholbert> josh, IIUC, UniquePtr is strictly better
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  2038. # [19:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f8afdcdc9ba - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 945192. r=rstrong
  2039. # [19:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7a1eb4df27b - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 945192 - Changes for tests. r=rstrong.
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  2051. # [19:04] <@bsmedberg> josh: 302 froydnj ;-)
  2052. # [19:06] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do we have a bug filed for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=47472539&tree=Mozilla-Central&full=1
  2053. # [19:06] * Callek is now known as Callek_disconnected
  2054. # [19:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d01a9dfb4004 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  2056. # [19:06] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: busted Android l10n repacks, with a configure error?
  2057. # [19:06] <froydnj> josh: yes, we want to replace nsAutoPtr
  2058. # [19:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: ISTR hearing something about that
  2059. # [19:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: i don't know of a bug number offhand, though
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  2070. # [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: I'm suddenly salivating at the idea of being able to get rid of one of our harness-within-a-harness setups :)
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  2072. # [19:10] <@gavin> RyanVM|sheriffduty: which?
  2073. # [19:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> imptests
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  2076. # [19:11] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063630
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  2085. # [19:15] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well, if this stuff supersedes them...
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  2087. # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: yeah, that'd be great if true
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  2110. # [19:26] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063632
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  2113. # [19:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: \m/
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  2115. # [19:27] <bz> 'm'?
  2116. # [19:27] <bz> Is that a person with their head bashed in with an axe throwing their arms up in the air before collapsing?
  2117. # [19:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> \o/ if you prefer (though I always wondered what happened to the other finger in that one)
  2118. # [19:28] <bz> Oh
  2119. # [19:28] <bz> \o/ is a head and two arms
  2120. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/0/6/4/5/1/7/4/GJ311_Rock-On-91852227025.png
  2121. # [19:28] <bz> \m/ is a hand with the three middle fingers bent. I see
  2122. # [19:28] <bz> Or two, yes
  2123. # [19:28] <bz> OK, it all makes sense now
  2124. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
  2125. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> \m/
  2126. # [19:30] <jgraham> I feel that your \m/ is missing a thumb
  2127. # [19:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3d066a7da8f6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  2129. # [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> everyone's a critic
  2130. # [19:30] <yury> thumb is behind m
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  2139. # [19:33] <botond> PSA: Do not edit files in your tree while you're building. Bad Things (tm) will happen.
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  2146. # [19:35] <rbarnes> can anyone advise on how to have an array paramter in XPIDL?
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  2150. # [19:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff5de7f70414 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1062089: Rename js/public/DebugAPI.h to js/public/Debug.h. It's a public header file; *obviously* it's an API. r=jorendorff
  2151. # [19:37] <froydnj> rbarnes: e.g. [array, const, size_is(aSize)] in octet aArray, in unsigned long aSize
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  2153. # [19:37] <@ted> jrmuizel: FYI after finally sorting out my VPN I kicked the symbol script, looks like it uploaded symbols for about 7 versions of d2d1.dll
  2154. # [19:37] <rbarnes> froydnj: looking for an array of strings, like sequence<DOMString> in webidl
  2155. # [19:37] <@ted> jrmuizel: if you have specific signatures with crappy symbols you can ask the socorro team to reprocess them, otherwise new reports should get better symbols
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  2157. # [19:38] <jrmuizel> ted: great
  2158. # [19:38] <jrmuizel> ted: thanks
  2159. # [19:38] <@ted> yw
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  2161. # [19:38] <froydnj> rbarnes: pretty sure you can sub in whatever you like for |octet| in the above
  2162. # [19:39] <froydnj> rbarnes: it'll just be a raw pointer in the C++, though, nothing container-ish
  2163. # [19:39] <rbarnes> froydnj: cool, thanks. that at least gives me enough to go digging for examples :)
  2164. # [19:39] <bz> rbarnes: you need an array of strings in xpidl?
  2165. # [19:39] <bz> rbarnes: in or out param?
  2166. # [19:40] <rbarnes> bz: in
  2167. # [19:40] <bz> OK
  2168. # [19:40] <rbarnes> bz: and in case you're wondering, this is not webcrypto :)
  2169. # [19:40] <bz> Then what froydnjs said, with "wstring" instead of octet
  2170. # [19:40] <bz> And you get a lovely char16_t** argument
  2171. # [19:40] <rbarnes> froydnj: and i'm assuming that if it's called from JS, the length won't need to be specified explicitly?
  2172. # [19:40] <bz> Better not have any strings containing null there
  2173. # [19:40] <bz> rbarnes: you can make the length arg optional....
  2174. # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> botond: http://cdn.hark.com/images/000/006/085/6085/original.0
  2175. # [19:41] <bz> rbarnes: however on the C++ side you do need the length
  2176. # [19:41] <rbarnes> bz: sure
  2177. # [19:41] <bz> rbarnes: since you get a char16_t**
  2178. # [19:41] * bz _thinks_ xpconnect will handle that, but is not sure
  2179. # [19:41] <rbarnes> bz: just thinking about syntactic niceness for JS callers
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  2182. # [19:42] <bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/editor/txtsvc/nsIInlineSpellChecker.idl#40
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  2184. # [19:42] <bz> hrm
  2185. # [19:42] <tbsaunde> is there a better solution for hash maps where the value needs to contain the key than nsTHashTable?
  2186. # [19:43] <bz> maybe leave it non-optional but try not passing it in JS and see what happens?
  2187. # [19:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04d42b23a489 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063233: Move JS::ubi::Node support for js::LazyScript to sit next to the rest of LazyScript's implementation. r=terrence
  2188. # [19:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e1913c07322 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063233: Move JS::ubi::Node support for js::Shape and js::BaseShape next to their declarations and definitions. r=terrence
  2189. # [19:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e3d887faa2 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063233: Move JS::ubi::Node support for js::jit::JitCode next to where it is declared/defined. r=terrence
  2190. # [19:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f6db27e6240 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063233: Move JS::ubi::Node support for js::types::TypeObject next to where it is declared/defined. r=terrence
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  2192. # [19:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/4274807c352a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  2193. # [19:45] <rbarnes> bz: i'm not too worried
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  2199. # [19:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7ffa64956c6 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063247: Amend JS::ubi::Node::size and its implementations to expect a mozilla::MallocSizeOf function. r=terrence
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  2219. # [20:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimb: inbound bustage
  2220. # [20:02] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Thanks, looking
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  2224. # [20:03] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that should be easy; patching
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  2229. # [20:05] <heftig> is there any reason to use mach instead of make for automated builds?
  2230. # [20:05] <heftig> (clobbered every time)
  2231. # [20:06] <viknesh> past: ping
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  2234. # [20:07] <@ted> heftig: it's likely we'll be moving our automation to use mach in the near future
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  2236. # [20:08] <heftig> ted: I think mach just ends up calling make anyway?
  2237. # [20:08] <@ted> currently yes
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  2242. # [20:10] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: got a patch
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  2244. # [20:11] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: What do I put on the first line? Same bug number, r=bustage?
  2245. # [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimb: you'll need a CLOSED TREE in the commit message, but the rest is up to you
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  2247. # [20:12] <spenrose> When implementing a Gecko component in JS as an object, are there style/functionality implications of named vs anonymous functions? E.g. "hasPermission: function()" vs "receiveMessage: function foo_bar()" here: https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/master/dom/identity/DOMIdentity.jsm#L273
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  2249. # [20:12] <@khuey> generally named functions are preferred
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  2252. # [20:13] <jimb> spenrose: These days, SpiderMonkey will infer names for such functions.
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  2255. # [20:14] <spenrose> jimb TY @khuey TY, any hints as to why?
  2256. # [20:14] <bz> hmph
  2257. # [20:14] * bz pikes closed tree
  2258. # [20:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/9cd6d7944c3e - Dan Minor - Bug 1062937 - Disable TestAudioBuffers unittest for B2G emulator; r=gbrown, a=test-only
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  2260. # [20:14] <jimb> bz: sorry; just pushed a fix
  2261. # [20:15] <bz> 's ok
  2262. # [20:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/514c713b2313 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063247: Stop checking for malloc_size; we need to get the header file righ. CLOSED TREE r=bustage
  2263. # [20:15] * bz is still getting his patches in order
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  2265. # [20:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: open
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  2276. # [20:19] * bz builds locally, just in case
  2277. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimb: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=47494646&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  2279. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> more from you?
  2280. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> non-unified perhaps
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  2282. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: that'll learn ya
  2283. # [20:20] <jimb> yes
  2284. # [20:20] <jimb> more from me
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  2287. # [20:22] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yes, non-unified
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  2290. # [20:23] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: have a patch
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  2292. # [20:23] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I promise this is not my normal modus operandi
  2293. # [20:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimb: heh
  2294. # [20:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> by my count, you hit a compiler-specific one and a build config-specific one
  2295. # [20:24] <froydnj> jimb: it's usually worse?
  2296. # [20:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> both understandable :P
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  2298. # [20:24] <jimb> froydnj: let me find one of my entirely orange try pushes
  2299. # [20:25] <mcote> anyone creating lots of queues on pulse?
  2300. # [20:25] <mcote> "quickstart-X" and "changes" specifically?
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  2304. # [20:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee169ca2e00b - Jim Blandy - Bug 1063247: Include declaration for JS::dbg::SetDebuggerMallocSizeOf. CLOSED TREE r=bustage
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  2306. # [20:28] <jimb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I allege that will fix it
  2307. # [20:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimb: thanks :)
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  2313. # [20:31] <bz> argh, closed again
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  2315. # [20:31] * bz should have pushed without compiling, clearly
  2316. # [20:32] <bz> Next time I'll know!
  2317. # [20:32] <froydnj> whoa, compiling before pushing? what's that?
  2318. # [20:32] <bz> Yeah, I know!
  2319. # [20:32] <jimb> jeez guys
  2320. # [20:32] <bz> jimb: ;)
  2321. # [20:32] <bz> jimb: I was only semi-serious
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  2323. # [20:33] <bz> jimb: Note that what you pushed compiles for me on Mac!
  2324. # [20:33] <jimb> 'sunderstood
  2325. # [20:33] <bz> jimb: I mean the thing that turned red on Linux Debug
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  2327. # [20:33] <bz> jimb: So I wasn't meaning to say anything about you compiling or not, if that's what you thought
  2328. # [20:33] <jimb> "'scuze me while I shut down the organization for a bit" [picks teeth]
  2329. # [20:33] <jimb> I could have caught both of those.
  2330. # [20:33] <bz> jimb: nah, I'm also doing reviews and bisecting in another tree at the same time
  2331. # [20:33] <jimb> no excuse
  2332. # [20:34] * bz has several cores just for this purpose
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  2336. # [20:37] <Callek> robcee: allow me to volunteer to switch teams to test/dev for that? (re: your service now "order a case worth")
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  2338. # [20:37] <Callek> robcee: re: https://twitter.com/johnath/status/349223444203831298 (linked to in yammer)
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  2341. # [20:38] <nemo> !@#$
  2342. # [20:38] <nemo> trying to edit a text shadow string in latest nightly dev tools
  2343. # [20:38] <nemo> I hit *try* hitting shift home to select from middle of string to start
  2344. # [20:38] <nemo> dev tools think I really want to insert the word "inherit" at the start of the string (not even my current position)
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  2346. # [20:39] <nemo> every time I try to do selection, it adds another "inherit" to the start of the string
  2347. # [20:39] <nemo> have to use mouse
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  2354. # [20:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: open
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  2357. # [20:43] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Thanks!
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  2360. # [20:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=bda5f3a0f8a2 - 13 changesets
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  2367. # [20:47] <jimb> nemo: Why not bring that up in #devtools?
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  2372. # [20:47] <nemo> jimb: eh. just one more channel in my overcrowded list. plus, looks like you read it 😝
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  2376. # [20:50] <jimb> nemo: Could you file that, with reproduction instructions?
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  2378. # [20:50] <dholbert> I've had two different builds hang during ./mach build today, after getting past "gdb-tests", "js" and "jsapi-tests": https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6335603
  2379. # [20:51] <dholbert> I interrupted the first one and re-ran ./mach build, and it finished fine
  2380. # [20:51] <nemo> jimb: fiiiiine :-/
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  2382. # [20:51] <dholbert> the second one (different build) is hanging now, though. Wondering if there's anything I should do to investigate, while it hangs
  2383. # [20:51] <nemo> jimb: seems to happen when editing any element fwiw
  2384. # [20:51] <nemo> then I get invalid rules
  2385. # [20:52] <jimb> nemo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bl76SAwCIAA7jqX.jpg
  2386. # [20:52] <nemo> shift-home in line-height turned into -moz-block-height10.5
  2387. # [20:52] <nemo> heh
  2388. # [20:52] <nemo> jpeg. ew
  2389. # [20:52] <dholbert> glandium, (perhaps you might be a good person to address my question ^ to)
  2390. # [20:53] <@ehsan> gps: any suggestions for the name of the new tier?
  2391. # [20:53] <nemo> that is crying out to be an SVG, or at minimum, a PNG
  2392. # [20:53] <nemo> I be it started out as an svg
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  2394. # [20:55] <dholbert> I'm using distcc, which might be involved. (2 builds on a different machine completed successfully, and that different machine doesn't use distcc)
  2395. # [20:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86cea7d09838 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 1063692. layers: Document the Prepare() phase better.
  2396. # [20:56] <gps> ehsan: name is irrelevant. I would go with "misc" for lack of a better name
  2397. # [20:56] <@ehsan> gps: sounds good
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  2400. # [20:57] <@ehsan> gps: I will try to get my hands dirty... but half of what you said is totally above my head :)
  2401. # [20:57] <@ehsan> so, we'll see!
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  2403. # [20:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fc176518638 - George Wright - Bug 1061885 - [Skia] Do not demote for non-standard compositing ops r=snorp
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  2411. # [21:00] <francisATgwn> how do I run mochitests through xvfb? The one-liner on mdn gives me a python error about no automationutils module.
  2412. # [21:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/680205258ce9 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  2413. # [21:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8a4e1b1387b9 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  2415. # [21:01] <dholbert> francisATgwn, you should just be able to add "xvfb-run" before your mochitest command
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  2417. # [21:01] <francisATgwn> dholbert: and that command is "./mach mochitest-plan"?
  2418. # [21:01] <dholbert> francisATgwn, plain, yes
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  2421. # [21:02] <dholbert> francisATgwn, I just tried running "xvfb-run ./mach mochitest-plain" locally and it starts running tests just fine. (I just killed it after a bit)
  2422. # [21:02] <francisATgwn> dholbert: looks like that was the trick. thanks
  2423. # [21:02] <dholbert> francisATgwn, great!
  2424. # [21:02] <francisATgwn> dholbert: if it comes out clean, I'll update mdn
  2425. # [21:03] <dholbert> francisATgwn, one thing to be aware of: last time I ran mochitests locally in xvfb, I got test failures in some "pointer-events"-related test
  2426. # [21:03] <francisATgwn> hmmmmm. ok.
  2427. # [21:03] <Optimizer> I force exited while sending a try , and now I can't qpop or qref - "abort: trying to pop unknown node"
  2428. # [21:03] <dholbert> francisATgwn, or actually, not test failures -- a test timeout (in just that one test), if I remember correctly
  2429. # [21:03] <Optimizer> any ideas how to fix ?:
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  2431. # [21:03] <dholbert> Optimizer, trash that machine and start fresh with a new one, I think
  2432. # [21:04] <Optimizer> dholbert: you buying for me ?
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  2434. # [21:04] <dholbert> Optimizer, or, more conservatively, s/machine/hg repo/ ;)
  2435. # [21:04] <Optimizer> i have patches applied
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  2437. # [21:04] <dholbert> Optimizer, (sounds like your repo is corrupted)
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  2440. # [21:04] <Optimizer> I know, how to bring the head to qtip again ?
  2441. # [21:04] <dholbert> Optimizer, corrupted = not likely to produce useful results, even if you had the magic command
  2442. # [21:05] <dholbert> but you could try "hg up -r qtip"
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  2444. # [21:05] <Optimizer> what all hg push -f try does
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  2448. # [21:05] <Optimizer> i can do the remaining things ...
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  2470. # [21:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54d37aeae2ce - Monica Chew - Bug 1030135: Enable pinning on services.mozilla.com in test mode (r=keeler)
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  2475. # [21:13] <@ehsan> gps: what is the correct component for an rbclient bug?
  2476. # [21:14] <botond> Waldo: ping
  2477. # [21:14] <botond> ehsan: i believe it's bugzilla.mozilla.org -> rbbz
  2478. # [21:14] <@ehsan> thanks
  2479. # [21:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b69fdc32b25 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1060976 - Fix more bad implicit constructors in the JS engine; r=jorendorff
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  2490. # [21:22] <jorendorff> anyone else seeing "can't start new thread" errors running mach xpcshell-test?
  2491. # [21:22] <jorendorff> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6335973
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  2515. # [21:35] <Optimizer> dholbert: fixed it with magic !
  2516. # [21:35] <Optimizer> haters gonna hate
  2517. # [21:36] <Optimizer> hate hate hate hate hate .. shake it off
  2518. # [21:37] <dholbert> Optimizer, witchcraft! your hg repo will now be forever cursed
  2519. # [21:37] <dholbert> but, gj
  2520. # [21:37] <Optimizer> I'll be the boy with the cursed mark!
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  2522. # [21:37] <Optimizer> or .. cursed mach! ?
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  2525. # [21:39] <KWierso> ehsan: bustage, I think
  2526. # [21:39] <@ehsan> dammit
  2527. # [21:39] * @ehsan looks
  2528. # [21:39] <@ehsan> sigh
  2529. # [21:40] <@ehsan> KWierso: can you give me 2 mins to ask on #jsapi?
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  2531. # [21:40] <@ehsan> this patch was waiting for review ~2 weeks, and it was green on try :(
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  2533. # [21:40] <KWierso> ehsan: sure
  2534. # [21:41] <@ehsan> KWierso: ty
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  2550. # [21:47] <francisATgwn> dholbert: I got 12 test failures, one of which was 'skipping 3531 remaining tests', and one test error. some of them say something about a timeout
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  2552. # [21:49] <dholbert> francisATgwn, could likely just be from running in xvfb. I typically only run mochitests in /layout/style, so I probably hit different stuff than you did
  2553. # [21:49] <dholbert> francisATgwn, anyway, if you like (and if you can reproduce these failures without any patches applied), file bugs! :)
  2554. # [21:49] <francisATgwn> dholbert: ah. ok. I'll run them again without xvfb to compare, but it'll have to wait
  2555. # [21:49] <dholbert> francisATgwn, yeah, takes a while
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  2557. # [21:50] <dholbert> francisATgwn, you might have more luck just running a specific test / test-directory, depending on what you're trying to do
  2558. # [21:50] <froydnj> I found running mochitests on an off-screen X server required a decent window manager to be running to handle focus issues
  2559. # [21:50] <froydnj> which requires a little more complexity than just xvfb-run
  2560. # [21:50] <@ehsan> KWierso: fix pushed
  2561. # [21:50] <KWierso> ehsan++
  2562. # [21:51] <francisATgwn> dholbert: I'm new here, first bug, first patch. I'm not really sure that I can select specific tests effectively
  2563. # [21:51] <dholbert> froydnj, still, those should just be test failures. It's unfortunate if we end up "skipping 3531 remaining tests"
  2564. # [21:51] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  2565. # [21:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3ccede35d02 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bustage fix for bug 1060976, irc-r=efaust, landed on a CLOSED TREE
  2566. # [21:52] <dholbert> francisATgwn, gotcha. You may be better off just relying on Try server, then; doing a full mochitest run locally isn't really feasible these days, unless you can leave your computer alone for a while
  2567. # [21:52] <froydnj> dholbert: probably a balance between skipping tests and waiting for a bunch of tests to timeout because something in the environment is broken
  2568. # [21:52] <dholbert> francisATgwn, you can ask the bug mentor to push the patch to Try for you, and/or if there's a particular subset of mochitests that they'd recommend that you run locally
  2569. # [21:53] <dholbert> francisATgwn, (or if they already asked you to run all mochitests locally, I guess that means you just want to run ./mach mochitest-plain and walk away from your computer for an hour or two :))
  2570. # [21:54] <francisATgwn> it was 25 minutes on my machine, but I don't know if that constituted a complete run.
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  2573. # [21:54] <dholbert> francisATgwn, yeah, that's probably because it skipped those 3500 tests
  2574. # [21:55] <dholbert> francisATgwn, it typically takes me nearly 30 min just to get through the mochitests in layout/style/test
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  2576. # [21:56] <froydnj> dholbert: debug?
  2577. # [21:57] <dholbert> froydnj, oh, yeah -- debug build
  2578. # [21:57] <dholbert> probably faster in opt build
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  2583. # [21:58] <froydnj> dholbert: that's some serious overhead
  2584. # [21:58] <froydnj> dholbert: and/or a slow machine
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  2586. # [21:59] <jimm> bsmedberg: ping
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  2589. # [22:00] <@bsmedberg> jimm: pong
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  2592. # [22:00] <dholbert> froydnj, *shrug* Machine isn't too slow. Dell Precision desktop from a few years ago, 3.50GHz processor, quad core
  2593. # [22:00] <jimm> bsmedberg: hey. curious about something. we can create chromium Threads and give them a TYPE_MOZILLA_NONMAINTHREAD pumps.
  2594. # [22:01] <jimm> bsmedberg: somehow, Thread support nsIThread, and I'm not sure how that happens
  2595. # [22:01] <@bsmedberg> jimm: magic! But what exactly are you doing?
  2596. # [22:02] <jimm> bsmedberg: what I'm doing works (creating a new message pump for background threads that work with the ui) I was just trying to understand how Thread support nsIThread
  2597. # [22:02] <jimm> I didn't think this would work for a chromium thread -
  2598. # [22:02] <Waldo> botond: pong
  2599. # [22:03] <jimm> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/MessagePump.cpp#311
  2600. # [22:03] <@bsmedberg> jimm: so typically you wouldn’t be doing this, you’d be creating a nsIThread as normal and *that* creates the matching chromium thread: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsThread.cpp#347
  2601. # [22:03] <jimm> mThread is an nsIThread*
  2602. # [22:03] <jimm> bsmedberg: yeah, I actually started with that, and exposed that loop so I could post tasks to it.
  2603. # [22:04] <jimm> bsmedberg: but this also works with a chromium Thread
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  2606. # [22:04] <@bsmedberg> jimm: so right now I believe our thread-manager magically creates a nsThread for any thread on-demand
  2607. # [22:05] <@bsmedberg> which is *terrible*, and shouldn’t be relied on
  2608. # [22:05] <jimm> ahhh
  2609. # [22:05] <jimm> maybe in NS_GetCurrentThread
  2610. # [22:05] <KWierso> oh hey, it helps when I click treestatus's "Submit" button to reopen the tree...
  2611. # [22:05] <francisATgwn> dholbert: that (opt vs. debug) touches on something I don't fully understand. I had trouble getting head to build. someone pointed out that I shouldn't source the standard linux mozconfig in my mozconfig, but I don't understand why. What is the official way for me to build a debug build and what mozconfig do I use to build a release with the same configure/compile options as the binary releases that mozilla puts out for linux? (I'
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  2613. # [22:06] <jimm> bsmedberg: ah here - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsThreadManager.cpp#244
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  2615. # [22:06] <dholbert> francisATgwn, I believe you can just use an empty mozconfig to get an opt build (similar to release builds)
  2616. # [22:07] <@bsmedberg> jimm: yeah, I want that to assert
  2617. # [22:07] <dholbert> francisATgwn, for a debug build, just put "ac_add_options --enable-debug --disable-optimize" in your mozconfig
  2618. # [22:07] <francisATgwn> ok, thanks
  2619. # [22:07] <dholbert> francisATgwn, you probably don't want "the same configure/compile options as the binary releases that mozilla puts out", because those include e.g. update channel and other stuff that you don't want
  2620. # [22:08] <jimm> bsmedberg: well, in the work I'm doing in MediaManager, I can rely on that and not make any changes to xpcom. if I can't I'll need tyo expose that loop from nsThread, and revert back to creating a nsThread. I have a patch that does this that I threw out, let me see if I can find it.
  2621. # [22:08] <dholbert> francisATgwn, but if you're curious, you can view about:buildconfig in any build to see the mozconfig options that it was built with
  2622. # [22:08] <francisATgwn> dholbert: true, but I do want the default optimizations and options like gstreamer
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  2626. # [22:08] <francisATgwn> dholbert: I have checked about:buildconfig, but I had a bit of trouble mapping each of those options directly to a mozconfig line
  2627. # [22:09] <dholbert> francisATgwn, you get "the default optimizations" by default
  2628. # [22:09] <jesup> jimm: perhaps related to the fact that random threads can be "upconverted" into nsThreads (such as by doing Dispatch(..., NS_DISPATCH_SYNC) from a random pthread)
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  2632. # [22:10] <@bsmedberg> jesup: yeah, also a bug ;-)
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  2635. # [22:11] <dholbert> francisATgwn, anyway, you can copy things from the in-tree linux mozconfig if you like, but you shouldn't need to unless there's specifically a non-default feature that you want to turn on
  2636. # [22:11] <jesup> part of the reason we created SyncRunnable was that if you do that, nothing ever services the event queue, and you can end up leaking at shutdown.
  2637. # [22:12] <jesup> (as bsmedberg knows)
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  2639. # [22:12] <jimm> bsmedberg: well, I don't have that work anymore but I can reimplement it. I think I'll stick with the magic behavior for now though.
  2640. # [22:12] <@bsmedberg> jimm: why not just use a nsIThread?
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  2642. # [22:13] <jimm> bsmedberg: I can (and had implemented darnit), I just have to make a bunch of changes to nsIThread/nsIThreadManager to support a different type of message pump in the main thread procedure.
  2643. # [22:14] <jimm> bsmedberg: and I have to expose that loop as well
  2644. # [22:14] <jimm> for example, creating a new helper like NS_CreateNewUIThread()
  2645. # [22:15] <botond> Waldo: hey. i was wondering whether your Abs() function in mfbt/MathAlgorithms.h was meant to be extensible to user-defined types
  2646. # [22:15] <jimm> bsmedberg: honestly I'd like to stick with the chromium thread, I'm farther down that path at this point.
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  2650. # [22:16] <Waldo> botond: "meant" is such a strong word
  2651. # [22:17] <botond> Waldo: :)
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  2654. # [22:17] <botond> Waldo: all right. how about "are you aware of precedent for such in the codebase", and if not, "is it possible to do in a nice way?"
  2655. # [22:17] <Waldo> botond: not sure; is there a reason your UDT wouldn't just have an abs() method on it? generally it seems to me kind of unfortunate that specialization doesn't require any assent from the thing being specialized, and I'm kind of leery of specialization as an API
  2656. # [22:18] <tanvi> smaug: ping
  2657. # [22:18] <Waldo> botond: I don't believe anyone's specialized Abs right now
  2658. # [22:18] <jesup> A limited set of things target MediaManager thread with runnables; could instead of changing the chromium loops could we change to a different dispatch setup? Just wondering
  2659. # [22:18] <Waldo> botond: or, more generally, much at all in mfbt with the exception of IsPod
  2660. # [22:18] <Waldo> (which was intended to be specialized)
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  2662. # [22:19] <botond> Waldo: i don't have a reason for not having an abs() method on my UDT beyond wanting to keep the syntax consistent between it and primitive types
  2663. # [22:19] <Waldo> botond: what's the type, anyway, and what's it being used for?
  2664. # [22:19] <botond> Waldo: specialization doesn't necessarily have to be the means of extension. it could be overloading
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  2666. # [22:20] <@smaug> tanvi: pong
  2667. # [22:20] <botond> Waldo: the type is http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/2d/BaseCoord.h?from=BaseCoord#20
  2668. # [22:21] <tanvi> smaug: can you join #contentpolicy?
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  2689. # [22:29] <@ehsan> gps: ping
  2690. # [22:30] <Waldo> botond: hmm; I'm a little leery, but I guess I'm not horribly opposed to allowing specialization of Abs for user types
  2691. # [22:30] <botond> Waldo: do you have a reason to prefer specialization over overloading?
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  2693. # [22:30] <Waldo> botond: er, sorry, overloading is same enough to me
  2694. # [22:31] <botond> Waldo: ok. i'll provide an overload in BaseCoord.h for now
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  2697. # [22:33] <gps> ehsan: pong
  2698. # [22:33] <@ehsan> gps: so, I am running hg 2.8
  2699. # [22:33] <@ehsan> gps: how safe is upgrading these days?
  2700. # [22:33] * @ehsan is pretty terrified of doing that
  2701. # [22:33] <gps> i run tip :)
  2702. # [22:33] <@ehsan> well, you're biased :)
  2703. # [22:33] <botond> ehsan: i wouldn't recommend upgrading to 3.1: 1063314
  2704. # [22:33] <botond> ehsan: er, bug 1063314
  2705. # [22:33] <@ehsan> I just want hg to keep being able to push ;)
  2706. # [22:33] <gps> there is a perf regression in 3.0 for initial clone
  2707. # [22:34] <@ehsan> lol
  2708. # [22:34] * botond wonders where firebot is
  2709. # [22:34] <@ehsan> so, I guess that's a no to upgrading?
  2710. # [22:34] <@ehsan> firebot: where are you?
  2711. # [22:34] <gps> it doesn't bother me because i don't do new clones
  2712. # [22:34] <tbsaunde> botond: he doesn't do bugs in this channel to reduce noise or something
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  2714. # [22:34] <@ehsan> gps: so should I upgrade to 3.0?
  2715. # [22:34] <gps> the regression was in 3.0
  2716. # [22:34] <gps> 2.9 is safe
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  2718. # [22:35] <gps> but rb needs 3.0+
  2719. # [22:35] <@ehsan> will 2.9 work with rbclient though?
  2720. # [22:35] <@ehsan> bah
  2721. # [22:35] <@ehsan> so, what's the solution here?
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  2724. # [22:35] <@ehsan> (another problem would be _how_ to upgrade... /me doesn't know where he got his hg from)
  2725. # [22:35] <gps> 3.0/3.1 just have the additional few minute lag on initial clone regression
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  2727. # [22:35] <gps> ehsan: mac or linux?
  2728. # [22:36] <gps> ehsan: mach mercurial-setup
  2729. # [22:36] <@ehsan> mac
  2730. # [22:36] <@ehsan> ok I guess I don't clone that often
  2731. # [22:36] <botond> ehsan: i just built it from source. it seems to Just Work and take like < 5 seconds
  2732. # [22:36] <@ehsan> and cloning already takes like 20mins!
  2733. # [22:36] <@ehsan> botond: build which from source? hg?
  2734. # [22:36] <botond> ehsan: i mean, i upgrade hg by building new versions of it from source
  2735. # [22:37] <gps> make install :)
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  2739. # [22:38] <@ehsan> oh ok
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  2741. # [22:38] <@ehsan> that's too risky for mere mortals such as myself
  2742. # [22:38] <@ehsan> how can I tell where I got my hg from?!
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  2744. # [22:39] <gps> ehsan: do you use homebrew or macports?
  2745. # [22:40] <gps> hg debuginstall
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  2747. # [22:40] <@ehsan> gps: good question
  2748. # [22:41] <gps> mach bootstrap may magically do the right thing
  2749. # [22:41] <@ehsan> gps: I used to use macports, and now I use homebrew, and I can't remember which one I used for installing hg
  2750. # [22:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/4f3666b14119 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  2751. # [22:41] <@ehsan> ok, let me try that
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  2753. # [22:41] <gps> `which hg`; homebrew would be /usr/local/bin/hg; macports /opt/something
  2754. # [22:41] <@ehsan> Your environment's PATH variable lists a system path directory (/usr/bin)
  2755. # [22:41] <@ehsan> before the path to your package manager's binaries (/usr/local/bin).
  2756. # [22:41] <@ehsan> This means that the package manager's binaries likely won't be
  2757. # [22:41] <@ehsan> detected properly.
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  2759. # [22:42] <@ehsan> mine is in /usr/local/bin/hg
  2760. # [22:42] <gps> brew info mercurial
  2761. # [22:42] <@ehsan> brew knows about it!
  2762. # [22:42] <@ehsan> should I just brew upgrade?
  2763. # [22:42] <gps> brew update && brew upgrade
  2764. # [22:43] <gps> or run |mach bootstrap|
  2765. # [22:43] <@ehsan> mach doesn't like me for the reasons above
  2766. # [22:43] <gps> why don't you fix the error ;?
  2767. # [22:43] <@ehsan> why does mach care?!
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  2769. # [22:44] * @ehsan has done that very intentionally
  2770. # [22:44] <gps> it is the bootstrapper not mach complaining
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  2772. # [22:44] <@ehsan> sure, but why does it care?
  2773. # [22:44] <gps> it cares because in the case where we need to install clang, the busted system install will get picked up by the build
  2774. # [22:44] <gps> unless $PATH is set or mozconfig has appropriate overrides
  2775. # [22:44] <@ehsan> gps: botond: so I got 3.1.1, and the warning is gone now! \o/
  2776. # [22:44] <gps> easier to ask for PATH sanity
  2777. # [22:45] <@ehsan> hmm
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  2779. # [22:45] <@ehsan> gps: but I have clang
  2780. # [22:45] <gps> ehsan: you are special
  2781. # [22:45] <@ehsan> lol
  2782. # [22:45] <@ehsan> nope
  2783. # [22:45] <@ehsan> all mac users have it
  2784. # [22:45] <@ehsan> well, all who have xcode installed
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  2787. # [22:46] <gps> bootstrap is meant to go from zero to hero with little effort
  2788. # [22:46] <@ehsan> ok
  2789. # [22:46] <gps> tailored towards first-time contributors
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  2791. # [22:46] <@ehsan> right
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  2793. # [22:46] <@ehsan> gps: so what does rbclient do?
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  2798. # [22:48] <gps> ehsan: it overloads `hg push` to do magic when pushing to a reviewboard-enabled server
  2799. # [22:48] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  2800. # [22:49] <gps> add this to your firefox's .hg/hgrc:
  2801. # [22:49] <gps> review = ssh://reviewboard-dev.allizom.org/hg/reviews/gecko
  2802. # [22:49] <gps> under [paths]
  2803. # [22:49] <gps> then `hg push review` and magic will ensue
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  2810. # [22:52] <@ehsan> cool!
  2811. # [22:52] <@ehsan> gps: now I need to figure out how to hack this stuff to make it talk to git :
  2812. # [22:52] <@ehsan> :/
  2813. # [22:52] <@ehsan> any thoughts?
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  2817. # [22:55] <tbsaunde> ehsan: have the review board thing run a git server?
  2818. # [22:55] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: I'd prefer something that takes 5mins :P
  2819. # [22:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f33e9c8cd993 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1057631 - Use real locale when pulling search engine out of the jar. r=rnewman
  2820. # [22:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/46dfee14106a - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1063177 - Don't let plus button overlap search suggestion text. r=bnicholson
  2821. # [22:56] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I'd prefer something that minimizes the amount I need to touch hg :p
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  2828. # [22:57] <sheppy> bz: You've had some IRC client issues lately, eh? :)
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  2833. # [22:58] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: I already need to use hg to push, don't understand how you avoid that
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  2835. # [22:59] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I don't, but patch only goes to hg when I'm just about to push it
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  2837. # [22:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d13b071c362 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 1062546 - Upload mozinfo.json to the build directory, r=ted
  2838. # [22:59] <tbsaunde> which means I never need to rebase in hg
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  2840. # [23:00] <tbsaunde> if I need to move the patch to get it reviewed then either I move it twice or rebase with hg
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  2842. # [23:00] <tbsaunde> but actually I'm happy with diffs, so I'll just not change anything until someone makes me
  2843. # [23:02] <tbsaunde> jld|flu: bleh why do people keep feeling the need to dress a .S up as a .cpp
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  2848. # [23:04] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: ok, I guess
  2849. # [23:04] * @ehsan is still interested in the answer to his question!
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  2854. # [23:06] <davidb> ehsan I feel like mconley might know
  2855. # [23:06] * mconley looks
  2856. # [23:06] <@ehsan> mconley: see my question about how to use the rbclient extension from a git repo, any thoughts?
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  2859. # [23:08] <mconley> hmmm
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  2861. # [23:09] <mconley> ehsan: right now, rbclient is pretty tightly coupled to mercurial
  2862. # [23:09] <mconley> ehsan: I think the long-term goal was to support Git
  2863. # [23:09] <mconley> but we want to get hg out the door and running first.
  2864. # [23:09] <@ehsan> yeah I know that part
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  2866. # [23:10] <@ehsan> mconley: my question is, is there something simple (hacky etc is fine) that I can do locally which doesn't make me have to import textual patches into hg just so that I can push them to the review repo?
  2867. # [23:11] * mconley thinks
  2868. # [23:11] <mconley> ehsan: I can't think of anything that doesn't involve importing patches over to hg...
  2869. # [23:11] <gps> ehsan: have git push via mercurial. that's the easiest way
  2870. # [23:12] <reuben> |brew uninstall git|
  2871. # [23:12] * reuben runs
  2872. # [23:12] <@ehsan> gps: hmm, ok I guess I'm gonna need to write that push bridge now :)
  2873. # [23:12] <@ehsan> thanks!
  2874. # [23:13] <gps> ehsan: presumably you have a way to push patches from git to mercurial. do that followed by `hg push`
  2875. # [23:13] <@ehsan> the way is git show >/tmp/x && hg qim /tmp/x && ...
  2876. # [23:13] <@ehsan> :(
  2877. # [23:13] <@bz> So in reviewboard...
  2878. # [23:13] <gps> use hg-git?
  2879. # [23:13] <@bz> is the side-by-side view the only one?
  2880. # [23:13] <@bz> seems to be assuming a wide window...
  2881. # [23:14] <mconley> bz: yes, side by side diffs is how RB rolls
  2882. # [23:14] <mconley> there's been discussion about introducing a toggle, but that feature is vapour.
  2883. # [23:14] <mconley> (for now)
  2884. # [23:15] * @bz grumbles
  2885. # [23:15] <@ehsan> gps: that is hard, cause the way we deploy the mapfile is... not great
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  2887. # [23:15] <@bz> ok
  2888. # [23:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a16e9746d9b6 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 932771, part 3 - Make PaintSVG painting work by passing transforms down, rather than walking up the tree using GetCanvasTM. r=longsonr
  2889. # [23:15] <gps> ehsan: you don't need a full mapfile. hg-git should be fast enough to do the conversion on the fly these days
  2890. # [23:15] * @bz can probably write some bookmarklets to squash down part of the diff or something
  2891. # [23:15] <@ehsan> gps: but I have plans on how to fix it all for everyone by implementing a git server that pipes things through to hg
  2892. # [23:15] <gps> sid0 made a lot of performance improvements to hg-git
  2893. # [23:15] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, side by side diffs are anoying :/
  2894. # [23:15] <@ehsan> gps: oh really?
  2895. # [23:16] * @ehsan hasn't tried in a while
  2896. # [23:16] <@bz> tbsaunde: Oh, in your case I bet especially so
  2897. # [23:16] <@bz> So here's a question
  2898. # [23:16] * jld|flu is now known as jld
  2899. # [23:16] <@bz> It seems like whether reviewboard gets used or not is up to the patch submitter?
  2900. # [23:16] <@bz> Not up to the reviewer?
  2901. # [23:16] <gps> that's how it works today
  2902. # [23:17] <@ehsan> bz: for now, yes
  2903. # [23:17] * @bz may be misunderstanding the workflow
  2904. # [23:17] <@bz> ok
  2905. # [23:17] * @bz is not quite sure what he thinks of it
  2906. # [23:17] * @bz will just reserve the right to r- things that are too annoying to review. ;)
  2907. # [23:18] <mconley> heh
  2908. # [23:18] <@ehsan> bz: yes please do that
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  2910. # [23:18] <@ehsan> bz: there is not a better way to handle this that we could think of
  2911. # [23:18] <@bz> Yeah
  2912. # [23:18] * @ehsan plans to mass r- all textual patches out of principle
  2913. # [23:18] <@bz> I mean, depending on how responding to review comments works
  2914. # [23:18] <jld> Once upon a time, I wrote a script to scrape ReviewBoard's web API and write out a tree of before-and-after files, for use with other diff viewers.
  2915. # [23:18] <@bz> (something that the video doesn't show)
  2916. # [23:18] <@ehsan> *once* I fix the git issue of course, so that I'm not a complete hypocrite!
  2917. # [23:18] <@bz> the review requester may have a stake in what tool gets used as well.
  2918. # [23:19] <@bz> So I can't in honesty claim it should just be the reviewer's call
  2919. # [23:19] <@bz> jld: seems like we should be able to expose actual API for that
  2920. # [23:19] <@ehsan> bz: well, I expect people's habits to change over time
  2921. # [23:19] <gps> it's easy enough to get at the original patch: `hg pull -r <commit> && hg export -r <commit>`
  2922. # [23:19] <gps> or you could curl it from hgweb
  2923. # [23:20] * tbsaunde makes a note to not r? ehsan
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  2925. # [23:20] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: \o/ ;)
  2926. # [23:21] <@ehsan> jld: yeah, what gps said!
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  2929. # [23:21] <@bz> ehsan: True
  2930. # [23:22] <@bz> ehsan: However if reviewboard is only going to provide side-by-side diffs
  2931. # [23:22] <@bz> ehsan: then I think tbsaunde, say, should be allowed to automatically r- any review requests via reviewboard
  2932. # [23:22] <@bz> ehsan: because that's just obnoxious
  2933. # [23:22] <@ehsan> in fact, this is a *huge* benefit to the new system, think of going back to a review from 2 years ago and being able to know the exact state of the world when the patch was submitted
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  2935. # [23:22] <@bz> ehsan: Whereas you will r- review requests not via reviewboard
  2936. # [23:22] <@ehsan> bz: yeah, that is totally acceptable
  2937. # [23:23] <@bz> ehsan: which moderately sucks for review requestees, but .... ;)
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  2939. # [23:23] <@bz> ehsan: (the answer is to fix reviewboard's UI as needed, imo)
  2940. # [23:23] <@ehsan> bz: well, I'm going to try to act decent too :)
  2941. # [23:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee4dabe0e241 - Trevor Saunders - bug 1056459 - fire caret move event when document is loaded r=surkov
  2942. # [23:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25a373fa9dbf - Trevor Saunders - bug 1052122 - derecursify TreeWalker::NextChild r=surkov
  2943. # [23:23] <@ehsan> bz: I agree
  2944. # [23:23] <@bz> ehsan: I agree that having the repos be just there is huge
  2945. # [23:23] <@ehsan> bz: fwiw I think the idea of side by side diffs is just retarded
  2946. # [23:23] <@bz> ehsan: A pertinent question: can I just _pull_ the patched repo that got pushed?
  2947. # [23:23] <@ehsan> bz: but I hope to just hg export for now :)
  2948. # [23:23] <@bz> ehsan: while doing my review?
  2949. # [23:24] <@ehsan> yes of course you can
  2950. # [23:24] <@bz> Ah, then there is no issue
  2951. # [23:24] <@bz> because you can just do whatever UI you want
  2952. # [23:24] <@ehsan> it is literally an hg repo on the other side
  2953. # [23:24] <@ehsan> yeah exactly
  2954. # [23:24] <@khuey> github lets you pull PRs as branches
  2955. # [23:24] <@khuey> it's pretty great
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  2957. # [23:25] <@ehsan> yeah same idea
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  2959. # [23:27] <tbsaunde> I guess we need to talk releng into mirroring that to git ;)
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  2961. # [23:27] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: please file it, that's a reasonable request
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  2968. # [23:31] <jld> If patches-for-review are being pushed to a central repo (or there's glue to make it seem that way), then you're a few steps ahead of the ReviewBoard instance from my past life.
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  2970. # [23:32] <@ehsan> jld: yeah, we've been built a ton of stuff on top of reviewboard
  2971. # [23:32] <KWierso> jimb, ehsan: did one of you break non-unified builds? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=47507112&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2972. # [23:33] <@ehsan> jld: this is all done The Right Way (that is, no more textual diffs)
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  2975. # [23:33] <jimb> KWierso: That's probably me.
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  2977. # [23:33] <@ehsan> KWierso: I think that is not me
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  2980. # [23:34] <KWierso> jimb: is there an easy, obvious fix? :)
  2981. # [23:34] <jimb> KWierso: It's unified build lossage, so yeah
  2982. # [23:34] <jimb> KWierso: working on one right now
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  2984. # [23:35] <KWierso> thanks
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  2987. # [23:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cc20221b0f6 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 1063073 - Make sure embedding elements that rely on an embedded SVG's intrinsic dimensions are resized if the SVG is late in loading. r=dholbert
  2988. # [23:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6414bb45f5d - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 1059654. Report memory for all images, not just those that are in the image cache. r=seth f=njn
  2989. # [23:39] <jimb> KWierso: Actually, maybe this is something worse.
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  2994. # [23:42] <KWierso> jimb: okay, I'll close inbound for now
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  2996. # [23:42] <jimb> KWierso: Because I've gotten past there with non-unified builds on other platforms
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  3000. # [23:44] <KWierso> jimb: yeah, the linux one on tbpl is green
  3001. # [23:45] <jimb> KWierso: Yeah, I can't repro on Linux by dis-unifying that file.
  3002. # [23:45] <jimb> crap
  3003. # [23:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/3de5455b1b7d - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 3 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  3004. # [23:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7f91c0dd15be - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  3007. # [23:47] <mmc> kwierso, can i check in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=54d37aeae2ce on m-c? it touches some files that buildbot does on m-c on saturday at 3am which will cause merge problems otherwise.
  3008. # [23:47] <mmc> unless there will be a m-i -> m-c merge before saturday at 3am
  3009. # [23:47] <KWierso> mmc: sure
  3010. # [23:47] <mmc> thanks!
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  3012. # [23:47] <KWierso> mmc: no guarantees that any of the inbound tips will be merged before saturday morning
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  3015. # [23:49] <jimm> yury: here's the reason - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8458044&action=diff
  3016. # [23:49] <jimm> that's only called once (_onFirstWindowLoaded)
  3017. # [23:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/25efb1b16a5e - Monica Chew - Bug 1030135: Enable pinning on services.mozilla.com in test mode (r=keeler,a=kwierso)
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  3019. # [23:51] <yury> okay
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  3025. # [23:52] <jimm> yury: probably just have to move that init code back to browser.js. I'll take a deeper look over the weekend.
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  3029. # [23:53] <yury> jimm: I'm going add the extension for the StreamConverter to play with it a little bit more
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  3033. # [23:55] <KWierso> jimb: yay, and osx is green, too
  3034. # [23:55] <KWierso> so windows-only
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  3038. # [23:57] <KWierso> jimb: should we just backout for now?
  3039. # [23:58] <jimb> KWierso: Yeah, I've prepared a backout patch.
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