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  37. # [00:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8c5d91b1b3a - Brian Birtles - Bug 1104433 part 1 - Update test_error_events.html to set allow_uncaught_exception; r=Ms2ger
  38. # [00:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ac3a114cc4e - Brian Birtles - Bug 1104433 part 2 - Update dom/imptests/testharness.js and friends; rs=Ms2ger
  39. # [00:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ce25fd6315b - Brian Birtles - Bug 1104433 part 3 - Extend the timeout of dom/imptests/editing/conformancetest/test_runtest.html; rs=Ms2ger
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  87. # [02:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5c404f95a9d - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 1048745 - [WebGL2] Integer vertex attributes. r=jgilbert
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  96. # [02:32] <philor> guess since I was dumb enough to admit having seen it, I have to pretend to care
  97. # [02:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1a5ef4b0dd44 - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out changeset a686c6909b22 (bug 928833)
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  115. # [02:52] <edwin> anybody in portland up for dinner?
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  190. # [04:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b0e899a4f717 - Richard Newman - Bug 1085774 - Part 0: cleanup in tabs engine. r=trivial
  191. # [04:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9dffef3538c3 - Edouard Oger - Bug 1085774 - Part 1: add more history URLs to tab records. r=rnewman
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  323. # [08:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> MattN: ping
  324. # [08:02] <MattN> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hey, I see the leak
  325. # [08:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok :)
  326. # [08:02] <MattN> (only because of your ping)
  327. # [08:02] <MattN> I hadn't checked the tab recently
  328. # [08:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh wasn't also sure if you are aroudn
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  333. # [08:06] <MattN> I think it's a simple fix but it will take around 15 minutes to confirm since I need to update my debug build
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  335. # [08:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> MattN: yeah sure feel free, don't expect that much checkins today :))
  336. # [08:07] <MattN> yeah, me either
  337. # [08:08] <nigelb> Tomcat|sheriffduty: you'll be st mozlandia, right?
  338. # [08:08] <nigelb> *at
  339. # [08:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: nope, still in bavaria and on duty :)
  340. # [08:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> that event conflicted with other tasks i have to do here
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  366. # [08:33] <Unfocused> Tomcat|sheriffduty: so you'll be around when i'm the only one breaking the tree! \o/
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  369. # [08:37] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Unfocused: heh yeah :)
  370. # [08:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Unfocused: well not 24 hours around :) i guess the kids would love it here without any rules :) but yeah otherwise i'm online :)
  371. # [08:38] <Unfocused> heh
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  385. # [08:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> MattN: any success with your build ? :)
  386. # [08:51] <MattN> Tomcat|sheriffduty: the build work but my fix didn't :(
  387. # [08:51] <MattN> I'm still looking into it unfortunately
  388. # [08:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> cool thanks
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  400. # [09:02] <MattN> ok, I understand the problem now. It's kinda an expected leak that I need to workaround in tests like the Loop tests do
  401. # [09:02] <MattN> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/loop/test/mochitest/head.js#59
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  410. # [09:08] <glazou> bonjour
  411. # [09:10] <MattN> bonjour
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  414. # [09:15] <MattN> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I just pushed a patch that fixes the problem locally
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  561. # [12:32] <Ms2ger> RattyAway, its preferences?
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  563. # [12:34] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: I tried https://ask.mozilla.org/help/ and https://ask.mozilla.org/faq/
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  567. # [12:36] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: I don't see any preferences button or link
  568. # [12:36] <Ms2ger> Hrm
  569. # [12:36] <RattyAway> oh I meant ask.mozilla.ORG
  570. # [12:37] <RattyAway> not com in case you were looking at something else
  571. # [12:37] <Ms2ger> ... You can log in with AOL?
  572. # [12:37] <RattyAway> :P
  573. # [12:38] <Ms2ger> Aha
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  576. # [12:38] <Ms2ger> Click on your name
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  578. # [12:38] <Ms2ger> Then "subscriptions" in the bar near the top
  579. # [12:39] <RattyAway> Terribly unintuitive if you ask me...
  580. # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5ef728a519d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 116083 - Correctly handle the whitespace in all preformatted elements; r=roc
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  582. # [12:41] <RattyAway> looks like ask.mo is trying to be another stackoverflow why do we need two similar websites?
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  602. # [13:04] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: even more ask.mo mail in my gmail spam folder.
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  611. # [13:13] <auscompgeek> RattyAway: ... the same reason why there's a million stack exchange websites?
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  688. # [14:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/583a996edc2b - Kai Engert - Bug 1088969 - Upgrade Mozilla 36 to use NSS 3.17.3, changing version numbers, only.
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  713. # [14:45] <fabrice> derf: ping
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  748. # [15:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75f3468a4ae7 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 1105232 - Fix race condition updating copy-on-write array owner pointer in compacting GC r=terrence
  749. # [15:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97150f502eeb - Jon Coppeard - Bug 1102858 - Fix tracing of debugger objects' private pointers for compacting GC r=terrence
  750. # [15:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23e0bc36bbac - Jon Coppeard - Bug 1104843 - Fix JSRuntime::isSelfHostingZone() to not crash before self hosting has been initialized r=terrence
  751. # [15:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/325de614e5ba - Jon Coppeard - Bug 1104162 - Don't enter PHASE_MINOR_GC stats phase until after verifying post barriers r=terrence
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  783. # [16:06] <gaston> so in 34 one will have to manually edit search-metadata.json in the profile to change search engine keywords ? really ?
  784. # [16:07] <Archaeopteryx> or use a non-en-US build
  785. # [16:07] <gaston> lol
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  787. # [16:08] <derf> fabrice1: Pong.
  788. # [16:08] <fabrice1> derf: too late!
  789. # [16:08] <derf> Perfect.
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  792. # [16:10] <RattyAway> gaston: what happened to the UI to change keywords?
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  794. # [16:10] <gaston> moved to the prefs
  795. # [16:10] <gaston> err no
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  799. # [16:10] <gaston> in fact the search engine *selection* moved to the prefs
  800. # [16:10] <gaston> but currently theres no way to change keywords
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  802. # [16:11] <RattyAway> gaston: the UI is still there right? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/engineManager.xul#39
  803. # [16:12] <gaston> the enginemanager is not called anymore it seems
  804. # [16:12] <gaston> manage search engines is gone
  805. # [16:12] <gaston> and prefs->search only lists the engines, gives you no way to reorder them or assign keywords
  806. # [16:13] <gaston> filed 1106559, but im pretty sure 34 will ship badly broken as is
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  808. # [16:13] <gaston> since noone seem to care about the fact that this was rushed last-minute..
  809. # [16:16] <RattyAway> gaston: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/modules/ContentSearch.jsm#221 if you disable browser.search.showOneOffButtons you get back the search engine manager.
  810. # [16:16] <RattyAway> what kind of idiot logic is this?
  811. # [16:17] <gaston> oh didnt know one could disable it
  812. # [16:17] <gaston> RattyAway: thanks for the hint :)
  813. # [16:17] <RattyAway> Archaeopteryx: you know you could write an extension to restore the search engine manager
  814. # [16:18] <RattyAway> gaston: sometimes looking at the source code works ;)
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  816. # [16:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69c0c04139a2 - Athena - Bug 650366 - Account for the checkmark in combobox on OSX r=davidb
  817. # [16:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e3209930220 - JW Wang - Bug 1102607 - make GMPStorage APIs callable off the main thread. r=cpearce.
  818. # [16:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34ef51eca3bb - Jan Beich - Bug 1105781 - Unbreak unified build after bug 1083648. r=bz
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  846. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2301fd8921b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1101625 part 2 - Remove the aIRI param since it's always true. And some minor code cleanup. r=smontagu
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  848. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05ef711f1e13 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1105184 - Setup the mCaret used for DND so that it displays the caret also when dragging a selection within the same shell. r=roc
  849. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/265e01c7ff55 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 1102374 - Enable display:contents by default in non-release builds. r=dbaron
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  863. # [17:04] <gaston> glandium: i have a funky thing on a m-c build... xpcshell seems to be linked with a relative path to nspr libs, but for some reason the relative path depth is wrong so xpcshell fails to start -> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/7691235
  864. # [17:04] <gaston> glandium: does it ring a bell to you ? will you blame my binutils from 2004 ? :)
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  866. # [17:05] <RattyAway> gaston: I just noticed that on firefox nightly if you disable browser.search.showOneOffButtons the search prefpane disappears from the options window
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  868. # [17:06] <gaston> RattyAway: same behaviour on 34.0rc2
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  880. # [17:19] <_AxS_> Hey all -- is there an eta for the next ESR? Thought it'd be out by now...
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  884. # [17:20] <gaston> istr the gecko releases are planned tmrw
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  888. # [17:20] <gaston> 31.3.0 go to build was on the 28
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  892. # [17:23] <gaston> (for tb that is)
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  895. # [17:24] <gaston> _AxS_: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr31/ ff 31.3.0esr was built last week and should be pushed in-sync with others...
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  898. # [17:25] <_AxS_> gaston: it's not on ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/.... is that path the de-facto release path?
  899. # [17:25] <gaston> yeah
  900. # [17:26] <gaston> 34.0 is already there
  901. # [17:26] <_AxS_> 34.0 is, 31.3.0esr isn't
  902. # [17:26] <gaston> 31.3.0esr will probably soon appear
  903. # [17:26] <_AxS_> 'k, i'll wait.
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  912. # [17:32] <nthomas> should be up in the next 12 hours
  913. # [17:34] <nthomas> I verified from 33.0.3 earlier, got 2.85% updates for en-US, 28% for de, on sample sizes ~100
  914. # [17:34] <nthomas> oops
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  919. # [17:38] <_AxS_> ...since my release process takes a good long time too, can I depend on the ftp.mozilla packages being identical to the ones in gaston's hg URL? that way I can get started on manifests and tests...
  920. # [17:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9986ec246b13 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  921. # [17:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8e6d9cad69e6 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  922. # [17:40] <gaston> _AxS_: the urls are always predictable yes
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  925. # [17:41] <_AxS_> ...nvm, i was thinking there were binaries checked into hg, for some reason.
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  968. # [17:59] <mkaply> Why are there 34.1 and 34.0.5 candiate builds in https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/candidates/?
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  970. # [18:03] <RattyAway> mkaply: different regions something to do with the search agreement with Yahoo
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  973. # [18:06] <mkaply> Search engine is going to be based on Timezone?
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  976. # [18:07] <RattyAway> mkaply: interesting idea...
  977. # [18:07] <RattyAway> mkaply: file a bug?
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  980. # [18:07] <mkaply> RattyAway: It's designed that way
  981. # [18:07] <mkaply> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102416
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  986. # [18:08] <RattyAway> mkaply: how about canadians? They aren't in the US right?
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  988. # [18:09] <RattyAway> *Canadians*
  989. # [18:09] <RattyAway> eh?
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  991. # [18:09] <nemo> ohhhh caaaaanda. terre de nois aïeux.
  992. # [18:09] <nemo> *nos
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  996. # [18:11] <nemo> ▋🍁 ▋
  997. # [18:11] <RattyAway> everybody is doing emoji these days :P
  998. # [18:11] <Archaeopteryx> mkaply: diff them or the settings?
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  1000. # [18:12] <mkaply> Archaeopteryx: I figured someone would just know. Firefox 34 is going to be a crazy release. Even the new search UI doesn't appear to be worldwide (not showing up on German beta builds)
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  1002. # [18:12] <nemo> RattyAway: ▋🍁 ▋ ← with colour, but I bet this channel blocks 'em to avoid abuse (really there aren't that many good uses for it in a dev channel apart from maybe for bot announcements)
  1003. # [18:12] <nemo> aaaaaagh
  1004. # [18:12] * nemo sobs
  1005. # [18:13] <nemo> sorry for the eyebleed. I forgot to cancel it
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  1007. # [18:13] <nemo> mkaply: you know, I was getting this weird thing where the search UI did not want to appear for me this morning in nightly
  1008. # [18:13] <nemo> kept flickering in and out of view
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  1010. # [18:14] <mkaply> I thought it wasn't in nightly. I thought it only dropped in beta
  1011. # [18:14] <nemo> mkaply: I tried checking version, and all of a sudden the dialog popped into view, overlapping the firefox menu - awkwardly checked "about" anyway, and went back to UI... and it now works normally
  1012. # [18:14] * nemo shrugs
  1013. # [18:14] <nemo> mkaply: seems to be in nightly
  1014. # [18:14] * nemo checks to see if he has OMTC enabled
  1015. # [18:14] <nemo> seems to either fix or break dialogs
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  1019. # [18:15] <nemo> omtc off
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  1023. # [18:16] <nemo> mkaply: I just hope yahoo search results improve quite a lot. right now they are at about DDG level. and at least I have reasons to use DDG like their not breaking links in the search results and their regular/privacy features
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  1042. # [18:24] <no_gravity> Hello! Is there a way to clear the cache while firefox is running?
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  1047. # [18:26] <RattyAway> no_gravity: er I should think so
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  1049. # [18:26] <no_gravity> RattyAway: but how?
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  1052. # [18:28] <RattyAway> no_gravity: CTRL-SHIFT-DEL
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  1056. # [18:28] <RattyAway> no_gravity: terribly intuitive isn't it?
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  1059. # [18:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7dbe9960c27e - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 1105475 - Make sendChromeEvent work with Mulet. r=yzen
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  1061. # [18:29] <RattyAway> Isn't a Mulet some sort of haircut?
  1062. # [18:29] <till|iad> no_gravity: Preferences -> Advanced -> Network, then there's a button for clearing the cache
  1063. # [18:30] <RattyAway> till|iad: Firefox has Options on windows but no Preferences
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  1065. # [18:30] <till|iad> RattyAway: same difference, no?
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  1068. # [18:31] <RattyAway> till|iad: anyway CTRL-SHIFT-DEL is faster
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  1070. # [18:31] <no_gravity> till|iad: awesome! that did it!
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  1073. # [18:32] <till|iad> no_gravity: nice
  1074. # [18:33] <RattyAway> :P
  1075. # [18:34] <nthomas> mkaply: just ignore the 34.1 dir, looks like some logs got put there in error
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  1081. # [18:39] <nemo> RattyAway: well, you wouldn't want to hit it by accident..
  1082. # [18:39] <nemo> RattyAway: History → Clear Recent History
  1083. # [18:39] <nemo> fairly discoverable
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  1086. # [18:40] <RattyAway> nemo: I prefer SeaMonkey's Tools-> Clear Private Data...
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  1088. # [18:41] <RattyAway> bbl
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  1166. # [19:47] <_AxS_> did zu and ku localizations get dropped?
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  1171. # [19:52] <abr> Hey, the new Yahoo search experience is supposed to go online today, right?
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  1173. # [19:54] <@khuey> abr: it's already up on nightly
  1174. # [19:54] <abr> khuey: Ah, so I'm going to see the old Yahoo on Beta?
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  1176. # [19:54] <@khuey> abr: I don't know when that goes live
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  1181. # [19:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/789bf02e6662 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1106255 - Enable the meta-viewport support on Fennec to fix font inflation. r=dvander
  1182. # [19:58] <abr> khuey: Okay, yeah, I'm getting significantly different experiences in FFx Beta versus Chrome on Yahoo search, so I guess we're live on the new experience.
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  1184. # [19:59] <@khuey> abr: if it looks almost identical to google it's the new experience
  1185. # [20:00] <abr> khuey: The reason I ask is because this is still pretty unsatisfying wrt how far you have to scroll to get past the ads. Even with a full-screen browser, it's pretty much ads from the top of the screen to the bottom for certain searches: search.yahoo.com/search?p=flowers
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  1187. # [20:00] <abr> Or, to make that clickable: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=flowers
  1188. # [20:01] <@khuey> abr: yeah, without ABP I have to scroll down two full pages before I see anything :(
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  1190. # [20:02] <@khuey> on google there are results above the fold
  1191. # [20:02] <@khuey> identical to the ads, no less :P
  1192. # [20:02] <abr> Okay, maybe this isn't the new one. I turned off ABP, and it looks the same as Chrome
  1193. # [20:02] <abr> I'll download Nightly
  1194. # [20:03] <abr> (On a plane. This will take a while)
  1195. # [20:03] <@khuey> abr: try https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=flowers&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
  1196. # [20:03] <@khuey> that's what I get when I use the search box in nightly
  1197. # [20:03] <abr> khuey: \o/
  1198. # [20:03] <abr> khuey: Okay, that's much better.
  1199. # [20:04] <abr> And how I have the magic junk to put in my search plug-in
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  1201. # [20:04] <@khuey> I still prefer the ABP version ;)
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  1204. # [20:05] <abr> I thought it would be doing UA sniffing or somesuch
  1205. # [20:07] <@khuey> I think it's the hspart/hsimp bit
  1206. # [20:07] <abr> khuey: That would be my guess, too
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  1208. # [20:07] <abr> khuey: Hey, can you go to the "search" tab under prefs, hit the "?" in the lower-right corner, and tell me what you get?
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  1211. # [20:13] <@khuey> abr: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/startup-home-page-download-settings?redirectlocale=en-US&as=u&redirectslug=Options+window+-+General+panel&utm_source=inproduct
  1212. # [20:13] <@khuey> ?
  1213. # [20:14] <abr> khuey: Okay, it might be a channel issue, then. I get https://support.mozilla.org/1/firefox/34.0/Darwin/en-US/prefs-search
  1214. # [20:14] <abr> Which is a nifty little 404
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  1216. # [20:14] <abr> Like, someone had fun with legos and a graphics app. :)
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  1219. # [20:20] <abr> khuey: Any idea if we should be seeing user-visible differences for DNT? I have it turned on, and Yahoo is still giving me links like "http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVvIlv3xUIF8A8D8PxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMG04Z2o2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1417490342/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.webrtc.org%2f/RK=0/RS=3YCA0Q62iIjfIYYEtQ1fGOjP6e0-" instead of just "http://www.webrtc.org/"
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  1221. # [20:20] <abr> dougt: ^^^
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  1226. # [20:23] <@khuey> abr: I doubt that will go away
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  1271. # [21:04] <nemo> bleh. Firefox Hello is being blocked by lame company firewall
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  1276. # [21:05] <nemo> or at least that's what I infer from the fact that "open existing conversation in new tab" or clicking on it, does nothing
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  1287. # [21:10] <nemo> hrm. I used the "stop sharing" option in the lil' popup that shows up over the title bar for the microphone
  1288. # [21:11] <nemo> I then clicked on the mute/unmute on the page. didn't seem to ask for microphone again
  1289. # [21:11] <nemo> the hello.firefox.com page I mean
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  1293. # [21:12] <nemo> ☹ no way to type in chat?
  1294. # [21:13] <nemo> leave button greyed out
  1295. # [21:13] <nemo> heh. refreshing pops up happy/sad faces which then vanish immediately
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  1303. # [21:23] <gaston> anyone knows what the hell is 34.0.5 compared to bare 34.0 ??
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  1396. # [22:16] <philor> Waldo: I don't think b2g likes you much
  1397. # [22:17] <philor> intermittent but far too frequent @ js::detail::HashTable<js::ReadBarriered<js::UnownedBaseShape*>yadda yadda
  1398. # [22:17] <Waldo> *bullpucky* what?
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  1400. # [22:18] <Waldo> sadly can't talk much now, about to leave on a jet plane
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  1402. # [22:18] <philor> we can let whoever wants to push to inbound deal with backing out :)
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  1404. # [22:19] <Waldo> externalize those externalities!
  1405. # [22:19] <Waldo> (ahem)
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  1407. # [22:19] <Waldo> if it's me (which I rather doubt), apologies
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  1410. # [22:19] <Waldo> gotta go, see everyone maybe later tonight or tomorrow morning in PDX
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  1462. # [22:59] <mkaply> Where's the code that displays the search popup that says "A new default. A new look. A brand new way to search". I don't see it searching in mxr.
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  1466. # [23:00] <@gavin> mkaply: that's a UITour popup with strings provided by the website
  1467. # [23:00] <mkaply> gavin: OK. What determines whether it displays or not? I've had some upgrades show it and some not.
  1468. # [23:00] <mkaply> (and at least one upgrade switch me to yahoo even though I didn't click Try It Now)
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  1471. # [23:02] <mkaply> Some of my upgrades go to the "Search with Yahoo page" and some don't.
  1472. # [23:03] <mkaply> And some upgrade to 34.0.5 and others upgrade to 34.0?
  1473. # [23:03] * mkaply wants a flow chart
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  1475. # [23:07] <@gavin> mkaply: there are multiple upgrade paths with different behavior
  1476. # [23:07] <@gavin> there are no updates to 34.0.5 on the wire at the moment
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  1478. # [23:07] <mkaply> gavin: What is 34.0.5? Why are the official downloads 34.0.5 but the updates are to 34.0?
  1479. # [23:08] <@gavin> it's complicated
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  1485. # [23:11] <mkaply> gavin: Is there nothing that explains it? Folks are going to be asking on the enterprise list. I'd love to have a good answer.
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  1489. # [23:15] <@gavin> mkaply: nothing yet
  1490. # [23:16] <@gavin> short story is that 34.0 is testing migration paths to a Yahoo default, and 34.0.5 introduces the Yahoo default
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  1492. # [23:16] <@gavin> otherwise they are identical
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  1494. # [23:18] <mkaply> gavin: Are we offering people to switch to Yahoo even if they aren't using Google? Like if you have a partner build with say Bing, will it get the Yahoo offer?
  1495. # [23:19] <@gavin> mkaply: it's a default switch only. has no effect if you've selected a non-default provider.
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  1497. # [23:20] <mkaply> I definitely got the popup once with a non default provider and it switched me to Yahoo...
  1498. # [23:20] <mkaply> Unfortunately I can't recreate
  1499. # [23:20] <@gavin> the definition of "default" is complicated
  1500. # [23:20] <mkaply> In a partner build, the partner is the default. If Yahoo was offered in that case, that would be bad.
  1501. # [23:21] <mkaply> That would mean a web.de partner build with the default of web.de would get offered yahoo
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  1506. # [23:23] <@gavin> mkaply: you shouldn't be getting any popups if your selected engine is not Google
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  1508. # [23:25] <mkaply> gavin: So it's an explicit Google check as well.
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