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1. # Session Start: Tue Dec 09 00:00:00 2014
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <mccr8> fitzgen: probably the second one
4. # [00:00] <fitzgen> mccr8: cool, thanks!
5. # [00:00] <mccr8> the first one is a little more about CC optimizations. and I gave it and it is not very good. ;)
6. # [00:00] <@smaug> ah yeah
7. # [00:00] <fitzgen> :P
8. # [00:00] <@smaug> the latter one is better to someone not familiar with cc
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11. # [00:01] <@smaug> mccr8: my "ah yeah" wasn't a response to your comment ;)
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14. # [00:01] <@smaug> mccr8: btw, since you're here, why the need for isString check
15. # [00:02] <mccr8> smaug: I replied!
16. # [00:02] <mccr8> smaug: the assertion fails otherwise
17. # [00:02] <@smaug> ahaa
18. # [00:02] <mccr8> not a huge deal but we might as well filter those out anyways
19. # [00:02] <@smaug> mccr8: unfortunate to have isMarkable() which isn't quite enough
20. # [00:03] <mccr8> smaug: yeah the not-caring-about-strings is a weird CC thing, so the JS engine has no built in thing for it
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22. # [00:04] <sfink> isMarkableNonLeaf?
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24. # [00:05] <sfink> or maybe it's isMarkableThingThatCouldNotCreateACycle, which isn't quite the same
25. # [00:05] <sfink> oops, that was backwards
26. # [00:06] * @smaug can't recall why Trace(JS::TenuredHeap<JSObject*> was added, but since it is there...
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28. # [00:08] <@smaug> mccr8: NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_JS_MEMBER_CALLBACK vs NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_JSVAL_MEMBER_CALLBACK is error prone
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30. # [00:09] <@smaug> one has null check one doesn't, but both could deal with the same types
31. # [00:09] <mccr8> yeah. :-/
32. # [00:11] <@smaug> CheckParticipatesInCycleCollection deals with void*, so it can handle that just fine
33. # [00:12] <@smaug> mccr8: I wonder if we should add some MOZ_ASSERT or similar to NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_JSVAL_MEMBER_CALLBACK to access something which is available only in JS::Value
34. # [00:12] <@smaug> doesn't matter what. Just to make sure right thing is used there
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47. # [00:20] <Gijs> what's the range syntax on treeherder?
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54. # [00:25] <philor> Gijs: same as before, fromchange= and tochange=
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67. # [00:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8adfe4f5995 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 1107525 - Fix corner case of in-place debug mode bailout and SPS pseudo frame popping. (r=djvj)
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85. # [00:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/27cf288a8f5c - vivek - Bug 1097098 : Get tab history calculation offloaded to JS . r=bnicholson
86. # [00:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/eb203c9db11d - James Long - Bug 1107541 - display eval scripts with a sourceURL pragma correctly in the debugger r=fitzgen
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90. # [00:52] <Gijs> why is scrolling through treeherder so awfully slow?
91. # [00:52] <Gijs> or rather, janky
92. # [00:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80de5f55ca1e - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1094067 - CSP: Parser should follow path production from RFC 3986 (r=sstamm)
93. # [00:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5866fd3c075c - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1094067 - CSP: Parser should follow path production from RFC 3986 - parser tests (r=sstamm)
94. # [00:53] <Gijs> it seems like it's reloading data all the time, or something
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99. # [00:55] <chmanchester> Gijs: I'd drop into #treeherder if you're curious about that. I've heard some talk about perf lately
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101. # [00:56] <philor> did you forget to switch to Chrome before loading up a bunch of pushes?
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103. # [00:58] <philor> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound + 50 pushes in Chrome scrolls quite smoothly for me, the 10 of https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound is janky in Fx, which is part of why I mostly collapse revisions and only show unstarred
104. # [00:58] <philor> no scrolling, no cry
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111. # [01:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/da679263d594 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
112. # [01:03] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2be81834a116 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
113. # [01:04] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf25101e66cf - Denis Volk - Bug 1095098: move do_QueryObject templates into their own header r=froydnj
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121. # [01:13] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: I've bumped the number of content processes for e10s up to like 20, so each of my treeherder tabs gets its own process
122. # [01:14] <KWierso|sheriffduty> seems to help make each tab less "heavy"
123. # [01:14] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: I bet that wouldn't help when the tab seems to be basically bulk-requesting memory at 60mb increments every other minute...
124. # [01:14] <Gijs> (plus, I run beta, and e10s isn't really viable in 35)
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127. # [01:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: might be worth testing on treeherder-dev or treeherder's staging server. as I understand it there's a few perf-related fixes that are yet to be pushed to production
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135. # [01:23] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: that doesn't seem to know about my m-i revs?
136. # [01:23] * Gijs is trying http://treeherder-dev.allizom.org/ui/index.html#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound&fromchange=132909245ca8&tochange=83147bd55260&filter-searchStr=OS%20X%2010.8%20opt%20mochitest-browser-chrome-1
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139. # [01:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: hmm, latest push on inbound that's registered there is from this morning at 5:13am...
140. # [01:24] <Gijs> do old jobs get excised?
141. # [01:24] <Gijs> these are from nov. 18-ish
142. # [01:24] <jsha> I'm using this snippet to get a browser object from a channel (in HTTPS Everywhere): https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Code_snippets/Tabbed_browser#Getting_the_browser_that_fires_the_http-on-modify-request_notification_%28example_code_updated_for_loadContext%29
143. # [01:25] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: unsure. #treeherder should know, though
144. # [01:25] <jsha> However, it fails on Android because gBrowser isn't available on Android. Any suggestions on what else I should use?
145. # [01:26] <Gijs> jsha: not sure, but #mobile might know if nobody answers here?
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148. # [01:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da41a9308c2d - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset bf25101e66cf (bug 1095098) for build bustage
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150. # [01:28] <Gijs> jsha: google suggests https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Firefox_for_Android/API/Tab which leads to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Firefox_for_Android/API/BrowserApp#Enumerating_and_retrieving_tabs which suggests BrowserApp.getBrowserForWindow(aWindow);
151. # [01:28] <Gijs> jsha: where aWindow would be the contentWindow thing in the snippet, ie the window associated with the loadContext
152. # [01:28] <Gijs> jsha: don't know if that works, but it sounds like it should :)
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154. # [01:30] <fitzgen> mrbkap: ping pong?
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158. # [01:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: bustage
159. # [01:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4441651&repo=mozilla-inbound
160. # [01:34] <shu> ._.
161. # [01:35] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: please back out, no idea what that is
162. # [01:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> shu: can do
163. # [01:35] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: ty
164. # [01:35] <shu> arm simulator only...
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169. # [01:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78483a3e7b51 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset c8adfe4f5995 (bug 1107525) for arm spidermonkey bustage
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174. # [01:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ed611fb2797 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 1060529) for introducing a new intermittent bc1 orange
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194. # [01:53] <jsha> Gijs: thanks, I'll try it!
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196. # [01:54] <Gijs> jsha: good luck - got to go, try #mobile for followup questions. :)
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228. # [02:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2bd10f0159c - Wes Kocher - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 1105834) for non-unified bustage
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232. # [02:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d526469e5a0 - Bobby Holley - Bug 1108767 - Stop including MediaTaskQueue.h from MediaPromise.h. r=cpearce
233. # [02:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85fafca21674 - Bobby Holley - Bug 1108767 - Add MediaPromise::{Resolve,Reject}IfExists. r=cpearce
234. # [02:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73aa3d298a1e - Bobby Holley - Bug 1108767 - Allow promises to be resolved without a MediaPromiseHolder. r=cpearce
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254. # [02:39] <jsha> In broad terms, what does NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED indicate?
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261. # [02:42] <jcranmer> jsha: generally, it's like a non-fatal assertion failure
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264. # [02:43] <jcranmer> API misuse
265. # [02:43] <jsha> jcranmer: got it, thanks
266. # [02:44] <jcranmer> sometimes, it's a call to an external API that really shouldn't fail but does anyways
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271. # [02:45] <jsha> interesting. I'm getting it when accessing loadContext.associatedWindow. Guess I'll dig through the LoadContext implementation.
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318. # [03:20] <mwargers> I'm getting this build error on the mac, while trying to build debug desktop build: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/7867625
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324. # [03:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/becc88436330 - Dan Gohman - Bug 1065339 - IonMonkey: x86 VEX encoding support for several operators r=jandem
325. # [03:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/598c6617d597 - Dan Gohman - Bug 1065339 - SpiderMonkey: VEX encodings for blendps and blendvps r=jandem
326. # [03:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54e57eca5929 - Dan Gohman - Bug 1065339 - IonMonkey: Use vblendvps for SIMD minNum/maxNum r=jandem
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350. # [03:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b14b9b335d4e - Chris Peterson - Bug 1107814 - Part 1: Mark more directories as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS for all compilers. r=gps
351. # [03:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2147895c5dc4 - Chris Peterson - Bug 1107814 - Part 2: Mark some directories as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS conditionally for some compilers. r=gps
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356. # [03:46] <seth> at some point i'm going to have to figure out how to debug e10s properly
357. # [03:46] <froydnj> today is not that day
358. # [03:46] <seth> indeed
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366. # [03:52] <@roc> rr
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368. # [03:54] <seth> roc: how's the OS X port coming? =)
369. # [03:54] <seth> i guess there's always VMs
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371. # [03:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d97109e0c30 - Mark Hammond - Bug 287107 - make Components.returnCode be the xpcom nsresult if set by js components. r=bholley
372. # [03:55] <@roc> OS X is not on the roadmap
373. # [03:55] <seth> =(
374. # [03:56] <seth> (not that i'm surprised)
375. # [03:56] <@roc> use a VM
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377. # [03:56] <@roc> I'd prefer to invest in making rr rock so hard it's worth using a VM
378. # [03:56] <seth> hehe, that's fair
379. # [03:56] <@roc> and/or Apple/MS are shamed into doing their own ports
380. # [03:57] <@roc> rewrites really
381. # [03:57] <@roc> I'll implement "rr replay -p plugin-container" today if you promise to use it :-)
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384. # [03:59] <seth> it sounds like something lots of people would find useful, if i understand what that command does correctly! ('-p' specifies which process to replay?)
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387. # [04:02] <@roc> yeah
388. # [04:02] <@roc> yeah, I'd find it useful already
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407. # [04:20] <ewong> does anyone know how I can find out the contents of aPlacesNode from http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/components/places/content/browserPlacesViews.js#561? dump(aPlacesNode); gives me gibberish.
408. # [04:20] <ewong> or is it supposed to be giving gibberish?
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424. # [04:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fb4c144263b2 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1084098 - Pre: Don't require GeckoApplication in Themed*widgets. r=mcomella
425. # [04:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ddb6ffa2c017 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1084098 - Adjust padding/margins of Sync tabs panel items. r=mcomella
426. # [04:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/24f1cc4e2e32 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1084098 - Add Android tools tags to some Remote Tabs home panel views. r=mcomella
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439. # [04:44] <chunminchang> Hi, folks! I need a help
440. # [04:44] <chunminchang> Does anyone know about how to create an ipdl?
441. # [04:44] <chunminchang> I follow these tutorial:
442. # [04:44] <chunminchang> https://wiki.mozilla.org/IPDL/Five_minute_example
443. # [04:44] <chunminchang> https://wiki.mozilla.org/IPDL/Low_level_setup
444. # [04:44] <chunminchang> but I get an error when using ipdl.py to generate the header and the implements files of ipdl
445. # [04:44] <chunminchang> Any idea?
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469. # [05:04] <markh> oh ffs
470. # [05:04] <philor> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=4449525&repo=mozilla-inbound
471. # [05:04] <markh> yeah, android :(
472. # [05:04] <philor> who doesn't love a good androidx86 failure?
473. # [05:05] * markh prepares a [skip-if] directive and to reland...
474. # [05:05] <philor> I think I might stay closed for a while, not liking b2g desktop linux64
475. # [05:05] <philor> which would be from four or five hours ago
476. # [05:06] <markh> right, so not from mine?
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479. # [05:06] <philor> yeah, they aren't yours
480. # [05:07] <philor> more along the lines of "you don't have to desperately hurry, and might have time to land your skip-if instead of being backed out"
481. # [05:07] <markh> yeah, I might do just that if that's ok :)
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483. # [05:07] <philor> inconveniently, b2g linux64 sucks ass, so it's hard to tell when it sucks even more
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485. # [05:08] <philor> and it runs on a slave pool which has widespread and not-understood bustage
486. # [05:10] <markh> philor: so you ok with me pushing http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/7869571 ?
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489. # [05:13] <philor> markh: do you care about android at all, and want to wait to see whether you mean android or androidx86 (or whatever might be the actual value for that)?
490. # [05:13] <philor> personally, I don't care either way
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492. # [05:14] <markh> hrm - yeah, good point, and it's not urgent - so yeah, I'll run it through try
493. # [05:14] <markh> (but I'm sure we don't care about android here)
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495. # [05:15] <markh> philor: so please back it out when convenient
496. # [05:15] * philor shoves fx-team over into the closed pile
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504. # [05:20] <philor> heh, and as I was typing a "e10s angry. e10s SMASH" comment for its backout, I realized that I was only finding it was busted when the PGO builds ran becase we misstarred the non-PGO bustage, and put another hole in my wall
505. # [05:21] <philor> I should really look into those rice-paper walls, they have to be more comfortable for someone of my habits
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508. # [05:23] <markh> I guess it depends on what habits you are referring to? ;)
509. # [05:23] <philor> wall-punching
510. # [05:23] <philor> or the precursor, sheriffing
511. # [05:24] <markh> it's your *other* habits I'd be concerned about with rice-paper walls TBH...
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514. # [05:26] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b46dc702c59c - Phil Ringnalda - Back out eb203c9db11d (bug 1107541) for e10s dt bustage
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521. # [05:28] <philor> markh: there you go, another android failure, push that skip-if!
522. # [05:29] <philor> mmm, nice webrtc nonunified bustage, whose is that?
523. # [05:31] <markh> it actually looks like it should be fail-if to be consistent, but yeah, ok
524. # [05:31] <philor> yeah, fail if you fail, skip if you crash or hang
525. # [05:31] <markh> (all the other fail-if's in that ini file are for the exact same reason)
526. # [05:33] <philor> oh, I see, that's the non-unified bustage from before the backout for non-unified bustage
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530. # [05:37] <markh> philor: thanks - pushed with skip-if as that's actually more appropriate
531. # [05:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62bd0993a455 - Mark Hammond - Bug 287107 followup - skip test on Android on CLOSED TREE. r=me
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533. # [05:38] <philor> bwc: ping
534. # [05:39] <markh> philor: I'm gone for a couple of hours, so you know what to do if my fix isn't - TIA!
535. # [05:41] <bwc> philor: What's up?
536. # [05:41] <philor> bwc: do you like you for the non-unified bustage in https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=4450058&repo=mozilla-inbound as much as I like you for it?
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540. # [05:42] <philor> KWierso liked BenWa for it, but his like didn't work out so very well, since it's still failing after his backout
541. # [05:42] <bwc> philor: Hmm, try was clean for some reason. Let me look into a fix.
542. # [05:43] <philor> bwc: the reason would be "we don't do non-unified builds on try, because we like to be backed out instead"
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544. # [05:43] <philor> though the second clause might possibly be "because those goddamned sheriffs are going to pay for all those pings"
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546. # [05:44] <philor> so we just run it every three or four hours, and then guess wildly and wrongly about what to back out
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548. # [05:46] <bwc> How the heck do I just download the build log with treeherder? This UI is not working.
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550. # [05:47] <philor> you avoid the icon with justified lines, and go for the icon next to it, the ragged-right one
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556. # [05:50] <bwc> Yeah, it's going to take some trial (and probably error) to cajole the compiler on this one. Back it out.
557. # [05:51] <philor> thx
558. # [05:51] <philor> pretty sure you *can* build non-unified on try, it's just that you have to do it yourself by massaging the mozconfig
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564. # [05:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/960303b07c90 - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out 10 changesets (bug 1091242) for Android/b2g non-unified build bustage
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617. # [06:52] <cpeterson> philor: I hit a different non-unified warning-as-error build break from my recent changeset 2147895c5dc4. May I back out part of it on the closed tree?
618. # [06:53] <philor> cpeterson: *another*?
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620. # [06:53] <cpeterson> philor: well, a different one than the Android break from bug 1091242.
621. # [06:54] <cpeterson> (not another from my changeset :)
622. # [06:54] <philor> cpeterson: yeah, I meant "another, after we landed a b2g+android on top of a b2g"
623. # [06:55] <philor> but sure, back out at will
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625. # [06:57] <cpeterson> a triple whammy. actually, I found two more non-unified build breaks, but they might not affect the default build configs.
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848. # [10:34] <gaston> gps: is the content on readthedocs.org supposed to be the authoritative user doc for mozautomation/firefoxtree/mozreview ?
849. # [10:34] <gaston> or its somewhere on MDN ?
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857. # [10:38] <Ms2ger> gaston, former, I think
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859. # [10:41] <Unfocused> yea, readthedocs is authoritative - it's generated from the docs in the tree
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1056. # [14:10] <jez> on this page:
1057. # [14:10] <jez> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Components_object
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1059. # [14:10] <jez> it says "Don't use Components!". so what am i meant to use instead for, say, getGlobalForObject()?
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1063. # [14:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning RyanVM
1064. # [14:14] <RyanVM> hi
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1071. # [14:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d7bce9b4ab33 - Romain Gauthier - Bug 1045498 - New Hello UX for non supported browsers. r=nperriault
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1077. # [14:30] <@ted> hum
1078. # [14:30] <@ted> does yahoo as default search break using the search box as a calculator?
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1080. # [14:30] <@ted> that worked with google
1081. # [14:32] <smontagu> yahoo--
1082. # [14:33] <catlee> I always assumed that was google acting as a calculator
1083. # [14:33] <sheppy> Anyone know of an addon or tool that will give me a list of every tab I have open across all windows, with the URL and page title?
1084. # [14:33] <smontagu> google auto-suggest feeding into the search box, no?
1085. # [14:35] <RyanVM> padenot: benign or not, that assertion is hella-frequent
1086. # [14:35] <@ted> catlee: it was
1087. # [14:35] <RyanVM> I want that on all branches it'll apply to
1088. # [14:35] <@ted> and i guess yahoo doesn't support that
1089. # [14:35] <@ted> so it no longer works
1090. # [14:35] <padenot> RyanVM: good thing it's all of them, then
1091. # [14:35] <@ted> smontagu: right
1092. # [14:35] <@ted> smontagu: just kinda handy to be able to do arbitrary calculations in the search box
1093. # [14:35] <@ted> (especially since it could do unit conversion etc)
1094. # [14:35] <smontagu> ted: yeah, I use it a lot
1095. # [14:35] <smontagu> s//d/
1096. # [14:35] * @ted will complain to kev
1097. # [14:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/54f34402f8b2 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1093674 - Disable Sink phase. r=jandem a=sylvestre
1098. # [14:36] <padenot> b 40
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1100. # [14:36] <smontagu> I can't work out how to change default search engine from kbd either
1101. # [14:36] <smontagu> used to be Cmd-up/down arrow
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1103. # [14:36] <@ted> smontagu: fascinating, dunno
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1105. # [14:37] <montezuma> hey, I got a question: I fiddled around a little with userChrome.css and font settings and it seems I can choose any latin font for the urlbar, is it possible to change a setting and even use non-latin fonts?
1106. # [14:38] <smontagu> in fact I can't see how to change the default search engine at all!
1107. # [14:38] <@ted> smontagu: if you click "search settings" at the bottom of the popup it takes you to settings
1108. # [14:38] <@ted> where you can change it
1109. # [14:39] <smontagu> that's unnecessarily clunky
1110. # [14:39] <@ted> not as simple as it used to be, but we do provide the alternate search options in the popup, which makes using a different search engine for a single search easier
1111. # [14:39] <@ted> kind of a tradeoff
1112. # [14:41] <smontagu> I like to change it to and fro a lot, e.g. if I want to select text/right click/search a few things using wikipedia
1113. # [14:41] <smontagu> and then go back to google next time I use the search bar
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1115. # [14:41] <smontagu> that work flow is now miles less efficient
1116. # [14:44] <@ted> so kev sez yahoo has a calculator they just need to tweak the algorithm for when it activates
1117. # [14:44] <@ted> so that's good
1118. # [14:44] <@ted> smontagu:
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1120. # [14:44] <@ted> er
1121. # [14:44] <@ted> smontagu: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1088660&hide_resolved=1
1122. # [14:44] <@ted> is the huge list of search box bugs :)
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1127. # [14:47] <smontagu> ted: so in short what I just complained about is exactly what bug 1088660 did by design :-S
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1129. # [14:48] <@ted> :-/
1130. # [14:48] <@ted> complain to gavin?
1131. # [14:48] <@ted> dunno if this usecase was intentionally broken or what
1132. # [14:49] <smontagu> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1088660#c37 says yes
1133. # [14:49] <@ted> gotcha
1134. # [14:49] <@ted> well then RESO SCREWYOU
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1139. # [14:51] <@ted> smontagu: i don't get the sense that making it easier to change the default is a non-goal
1140. # [14:51] <@ted> just that given the new design, those shortcuts made it easy to change without noticing
1141. # [14:51] <@ted> there are some other bugs in that dep tree talking about adding UI to switch before typing
1142. # [14:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc459e217045 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1108595 - Enable using libc++ in clang-plugin on OSX 10.10; r=glandium
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1146. # [14:58] <Gijs> I think the idea is that we're making it easier to change your search engine once instead of permanently
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1148. # [14:58] <Gijs> and as a side-effect that's making the inbetween case (5 instead of either 1 or 1 million) worse
1149. # [14:58] <Gijs> I don't know that there's a good solution to that.
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1152. # [14:59] <@ted> yeah
1153. # [14:59] <Gijs> I also don't know if anyone has data to suggest 5 is more common than 1
1154. # [14:59] <Gijs> in which case maybe we want to revisit the design at some point
1155. # [14:59] <Gijs> AIUI there is now more freedom to change the design in the first place
1156. # [15:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbdbd1ad2f0a - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 1107367: Move ecma_6/TypedObject to ecma_7/TypedObject; r=nmatsakis
1157. # [15:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54741fbcf1c2 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 1107367: Move ecma_7/TypedObject/simd to ecma_7/SIMD; r=nmatsakis
1158. # [15:00] <Gijs> so I wouldn't really go with "this was intentionally broken" - I would just file a bug and needinfo phlsa and see if we can do something to make this better :)
1159. # [15:00] <smontagu> i don't see any indication that the change was made because of data
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1161. # [15:00] <Gijs> smontagu: right, so I'm encouraging you not to be pessimistic about the prospects of changing it some more :)
1162. # [15:01] <smontagu> plus all the issues that are already mentioned in the bug about it getting rushed in to beta
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1164. # [15:01] <Gijs> I was not involved in either the decision or implementation, but my understanding is that we're actively trying to improve this stuff
1165. # [15:01] <Gijs> well, yes
1166. # [15:01] <Gijs> nobody was happy about that
1167. # [15:01] <Gijs> we had a lot of meetings about it
1168. # [15:01] * @smaug is pretty happy with the new search UI :)
1169. # [15:01] <@smaug> (except some focus issues on linux )
1170. # [15:02] <Gijs> I've heard various people say "we should do this differently next time", so I don't think there's much to be gained by going over it again
1171. # [15:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3ba63a95999 - Jonathan Kew - Bug 1108277 - part 1 - Make Get{Min,Pref}ISize for the <canvas> element aware of vertical writing mode. r=smontagu
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1173. # [15:02] * RyanVM wishes middle-clicking on the search icon would open said search in a new tab
1174. # [15:02] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7d83c24264b - Jonathan Kew - Bug 1108277 - part 2 - Make Get{Min,Pref}ISize in video and plugin frames aware of vertical writing mode. r=smontagu
1175. # [15:02] <Gijs> RyanVM: is that filed?
1176. # [15:02] <RyanVM> beats me, just ran into it now
1177. # [15:02] <Gijs> looks like there's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1106101
1178. # [15:03] <Gijs> but I guess you mean the icon inside the inputbox?
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1181. # [15:03] <smontagu> changing search engine by arrowing does seem to work now, must have changed since the original checin
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1185. # [15:10] <smontagu> browser.search.showOneOffButtons=false FTW
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1202. # [15:18] <@gavin> smontagu, ted: 1108488
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1204. # [15:20] <smontagu> gavin: and 1107135
1205. # [15:20] <smontagu> or 1107194 is much the same
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1207. # [15:21] <montezuma> is there a list of all the names of the components modifiable with userChrome.css?
1208. # [15:21] <Ms2ger> No
1209. # [15:22] <smontagu> does userChrome.css work with e10s?
1210. # [15:22] <montezuma> that's sad, but thank you
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1213. # [15:24] <@smaug> smontagu: why wouldn't it
1214. # [15:24] <smontagu> smaug: userContent.css doesn't, so I wondered
1215. # [15:24] <@smaug> well, userContent is about the child process
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1217. # [15:25] * Gijs would assume userContent.css not working in e10s to be a bug
1218. # [15:25] <smontagu> Gijs: bug 1046166, eveb
1219. # [15:26] <Gijs> meanwhile... do we have documentation about what's meant to happen if I try to use XUL in an XHTML document on the web?
1220. # [15:26] <Ms2ger> A punch in the face
1221. # [15:27] * Gijs is just getting parse errors and wonders if that's him not writing correct XML or the expected result
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1223. # [15:27] <@ted> i'm pretty sure we disabled remote xul years ago
1224. # [15:27] <Gijs> we have, and you get an error page for toplevel remote XUL
1225. # [15:27] <smontagu> even though our own tests depend on it
1226. # [15:27] <@ted> smontagu: we pref it back on in mochitest
1227. # [15:27] * smontagu knew that
1228. # [15:27] <Gijs> my question is about what the expected error situation is if you mix it into some XML-served XHTML
1229. # [15:28] <Gijs> I don't actually want to get this to work
1230. # [15:28] <Gijs> I want to exclude an attack vector in the sec audit I'm doing
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1232. # [15:28] <Gijs> so if anyone knows the actual answer besides Ms2ger punching me in the face, that'd be awesome. )
1233. # [15:28] <Gijs> :), even
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1236. # [15:29] <Ms2ger> We don't allow creating elements in the XUL namespace
1237. # [15:29] <@ted> i would bet that nobody really cared about that
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1239. # [15:29] <@ted> so it just breaks in some obscure way
1240. # [15:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/872df69a912c - Brian Hackett - Bug 1107774 - Make LIRGenerator visit() methods infallible, r=jandem.
1241. # [15:30] <Gijs> Ms2ger: OK. So parse error, I guess? :s
1242. # [15:30] * Gijs expected something saner, but, OK
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1244. # [15:31] <Ms2ger> Gijs, we didn't want to audit all code that looked for the XUL namespace
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1246. # [15:31] <Gijs> Ms2ger: sure, but labeling it something more readable than "parse error" at what is otherwise valid XML was surprising
1247. # [15:31] <smontagu> gavin: so is there any value in opening a new bug "no way to change the default search engine from the search UI" and making both bug 1107135 and bug 1107194 depend on it?
1248. # [15:31] <Gijs> Ms2ger: I don't actually care very much, just trying to see if there is a hole in this code
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1250. # [15:32] <Gijs> (not how we deal with XUL generally, something else)
1251. # [15:32] <Gijs> looks like the answer is 'no', so that's nice :)
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1253. # [15:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9007304a46e3 - Neil Deakin - Bug 1060529, don't treat a raise of the child process window specially, r=smaug
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1255. # [15:33] <@ted> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623482
1256. # [15:33] <@ted> was the bug for that error message FYI
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1258. # [15:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6927294c9834 - Geoff Brown - Bug 911105 - Wait for view in testSearchSuggestions; r=mfinkle
1259. # [15:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22657f5fa3fe - Geoff Brown - Bug 1108717 - Wait for view before trying to access it in Robocop tests; r=mfinkle
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1291. # [16:04] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83066d9dd98a - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Put the gfx mochitest.ini in the same dir as the tests it lists.
1292. # [16:04] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc5ad20e8f27 - ziyunfei - Bug 1108467 - Implement RegExp.prototype.flags. r=till
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1298. # [16:08] <Codo> Hi,I want to understand firefox source tree to determine where the code is resposible for bug
1299. # [16:09] <till> Codo: hey, I think a good starting point for that might be https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide
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1301. # [16:09] <till> Codo: also, you might want to ask specific questions in #introduction
1302. # [16:10] <Codo> Thanks
1303. # [16:10] <till> sure
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1322. # [16:21] <RyanVM> Gijs: OOC, how do points work?
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1324. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, more work, more points?
1325. # [16:22] <Gijs> RyanVM: 1-3 is "easy", 5-8 is "medium" and 13 is "hard", and they should have a rough correspondence to the amount of time it takes to fix a bug
1326. # [16:22] <RyanVM> ....and?
1327. # [16:22] <RyanVM> does your team have goals related to # of points achieved?
1328. # [16:22] <Gijs> but no formal thing is specified, ie it's not like we can say "if it's a 5 point bug that means it should be doable in 10 hours" or whatever
1329. # [16:22] <Gijs> yes
1330. # [16:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e3c4d97a574d - Dão Gottwald - Bug 1059600 - Set the URI as the initial tab label for javascript links opened in new tabs. r=gijs a=sylvestre
1331. # [16:23] <@gavin> no
1332. # [16:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8c1802629a0c - Dão Gottwald - Bug 1106239 - Fix up the styling for about:home's and about:newtab's search panel and about:newtab's customize panel. r=felipe a=sylvestre
1333. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> maybe?
1334. # [16:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/311127615fd4 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 1106238 - about:home search icon has a solid background, should be transparent. r=felipe a=sylvestre
1335. # [16:23] <Gijs> gavin: why do we get iteration reports and why do they mention the goal for that iteration, if there is no goal?
1336. # [16:24] <@gavin> Gijs: you mean the "release production goal"?
1337. # [16:24] <Gijs> (e.g. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/IterativeDevelopment/IT-37.1PerformanceReport - "the target goal of 470 points")
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1339. # [16:24] <Gijs> gavin: yes
1340. # [16:24] <@gavin> goal is a misnomer in this case
1341. # [16:24] <@gavin> more of a prediction
1342. # [16:25] <@gavin> and way to calibrate performance
1343. # [16:25] <Gijs> what is the difference between "way to calibrate performance" and "goal" ? :)
1344. # [16:25] <@gavin> a goal is aspirational
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1401. # [16:56] <RyanVM> sweet, msvc2012 builds appear to be broken
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1409. # [16:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8a6b14d8320e - Victor Porof - Bug 1106137 - Make canvas debugger faster by avoiding a double-copy operation when deserializing image data, r=pbrosset
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1411. # [16:59] <jimm> ahh
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1436. # [17:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/27481c0aa57a - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1105290 - Add null check to createEngineFromFileList. r=rnewman
1437. # [17:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c25cd4c5587a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1438. # [17:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/eea059a75b70 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1439. # [17:13] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: 2010 and I think 2012 are broken by bwc's sdparta checkin last night
1440. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
1441. # [17:13] <jesup> of course, supposedly we're turning off 2010 around this week
1442. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> from the wrong channel:
1443. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 11:10:11 AM - RyanVM|sheriffduty: [1418140917.166, "build_output", {"line": "c:\\Users\\Ryan\\repos\\mozilla-central\\media\\webrtc\\signaling/src/sdp/SdpAttribute.h(259) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ')' before '{'"}]
1444. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 11:10:16 AM - RyanVM|sheriffduty: jesup: bwc: ^
1445. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 11:10:27 AM - RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's the MSVC2012 bustage I'm hitting locally
1446. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 11:10:55 AM - RyanVM|sheriffduty: [1418140917.17, "build_output", {"line": "c:\\Users\\Ryan\\repos\\mozilla-central\\media\\webrtc\\signaling/src/sdp/SdpAttribute.h(259) : error C2661: 'std::vector<_Ty>::push_back' : no overloaded function takes 0 arguments"}]
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1448. # [17:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: I'm filing now unless there's already one on file?
1449. # [17:14] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: file, assign to bwc. I think I may know why it's failing (inline objects for pushback())
1450. # [17:14] <jesup> see discussion in #media between myself and flo-retina earlier
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1452. # [17:15] <abr> Huh. I thought we'd already run all the SDParta stuff through try. Do we not do a 2010 build there?
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1455. # [17:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> correct
1456. # [17:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we use 2013 in production
1457. # [17:16] <abr> Aha! So this is something that's been found outside of our automated build systems, then.
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1460. # [17:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
1461. # [17:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I hit it locally
1462. # [17:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> firebot: bug 1109130
1463. # [17:18] <firebot> https://bugzil.la/1109130 — NEW, docfaraday@gmail.com — Build bustage in SdpAttribute.h with older MSVC compilers
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1472. # [17:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d719188c4af2 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1095543 - remove unnecessary nsInterfaceHashtable.h includes; r=ehsan
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1501. # [17:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5f6269fe747a - Richard Newman - Bug 1108252 - Remove launcher icon for search activity. r=mfinkle
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1533. # [17:54] <firebot> kgrandon was last seen 16 hours, 26 minutes and 32 seconds ago,
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1555. # [18:05] <RealRaven1> may I ask a style question?
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1561. # [18:07] <RealRaven1> I was trying to style the text color of a toolbarbutton at the lowest level from code, but found only one chil Node
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1563. # [18:08] <RealRaven1> this doesn't work either: button.labelElement.style.setProperty('color', entry.cssColor, 'important');
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1566. # [18:08] <RealRaven1> it appears according to DOMi the toolbarbuttons have 2 labels one multiline and one "normal"
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1570. # [18:10] <RealRaven1> childNodes has only 1 element
1571. # [18:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/323805708d5f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d4dfb076f5f1 (bug 1108714) because something in the push made Gij(2) permafail.
1572. # [18:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/481af84aba2a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 5 changesets (bug 1092888) because something in the push made Gij(2) permafail.
1573. # [18:10] <till> RealRaven1: I'm guessing here, but perhaps #firefox has more people who could answer this?
1574. # [18:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/920f29e2e97a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset a0a2ada42652 (bug 936724) because something in the push made Gij(2) permafail.
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1576. # [18:10] <RealRaven1> ok. I can try there. Although it is a Thunderbird question, but I guess that's the same thing
1577. # [18:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/383988745eb2 - Martyn Haigh - Bug 1100464 - Add back button to top left of the tabs panel (r=lucasr)
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1603. # [18:26] <RealRaven1> not much feedback there - maybe somebody can enlighten me how DOMi iterates the anonymous child nodes of a button?
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1609. # [18:29] <@smaug> hmm, "-remote option removed" ?
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1612. # [18:31] <jesup> yeah, bloody pain in the $%(*
1613. # [18:31] <hub> Fedora?
1614. # [18:32] <jesup> Also breaks emacs
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1616. # [18:32] <hub> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1106167
1617. # [18:32] <hub> I have open that one
1618. # [18:32] <jesup> and thus Gnus (which I use to read the mozilla.* groups)
1619. # [18:33] <hub> where the problem is caused by the wrapper script in Fedora.
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1627. # [18:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb903f13f215 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1092835 - Bump the nsIWebProgressListener UUID. CLOSED TREE
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1652. # [18:56] <bz> God
1653. # [18:56] * bz hates Google's login crap so much...
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1655. # [18:57] <froydnj> t-6 days until the chances to hate on it go up exponentially!
1656. # [18:57] <RealRaven1> me too
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1658. # [18:57] <bz> froydnj: Nah, I plan to keep using IMAP for my mail, so that part is ok
1659. # [18:57] <bz> But the fact that logging into Trello fucks up my calendar is just broken beyond belief
1660. # [18:58] <froydnj> o.O
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1663. # [18:58] <@gavin> I've had very few problems recently with multi-google accounts
1664. # [18:58] <bz> As in, switches which account is viewing my calendar
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1667. # [18:58] <bz> gavin: this happens to me all the fucking time
1668. # [18:58] <@gavin> occasional weirdness, but selecting the account tends to be persistent eventually
1669. # [18:59] <bz> gavin: logging into my calendar changes which account is signed into Blink's bug database
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1671. # [18:59] <bz> gavin: logging into Trello changes which account is signed into my calendar
1672. # [18:59] <bz> gavin: It's totally nuts.
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1677. # [19:00] <@gavin> bz: used to happen to me frequently, but stopped a while ago
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1681. # [19:00] <bz> gavin: mmm
1682. # [19:01] <bz> gavin: Well, it clearly hasn't stopped for me.
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1684. # [19:01] <@gavin> maybe you should reconfigure your accounts somehow, make sure you're signed in to all and persist them
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1686. # [19:01] <@gavin> then use the account switcher for the specific tabs you care about linking to a specific account
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1697. # [19:05] <jimm> ugh
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1699. # [19:06] <jimm> or we could just not use google
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1704. # [19:07] <bkero> That decision has already been made for us
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1707. # [19:07] <jimm> I have the same problems as bz with google logins
1708. # [19:08] <@gavin> clear your cookies, try again?
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1712. # [19:08] <jimm> another annoying issue: the 'other services' hamburger button on google's home page shows different results depending on what account I log in under
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1722. # [19:14] <ferjm> bz, ping
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1724. # [19:14] <bz> ferjm: ack
1725. # [19:15] <ferjm> bz, hello! I am following this guide https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Inheriting_from_interfaces_implemented_in_C.2B.2B and I am not sure how to get the init() function of the implementation to be called
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1728. # [19:16] <ferjm> bz, I am adding a ChromeOnly init method to the webidl and manually calling it, but that's probably not the way to do it
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1731. # [19:16] <ferjm> bz, there is this comment " // XXXbz need to document how to get this called on you!" in the example, so I guessed you would know :)
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1738. # [19:19] <bz> ferjm: lemme look!
1739. # [19:19] <ferjm> bz, thanks!
1740. # [19:19] <rnewman> sheriffs, can I push an android-only change to fx-team?
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1744. # [19:20] <bz> ferjm: Ah
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1747. # [19:21] <bz> ferjm: So I think this is documented under https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Implementing_a_WebIDL_object_in_JavaScript -- look for the nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer bits
1748. # [19:21] <rnewman> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^ ?
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1750. # [19:21] * bz fixes the docs
1751. # [19:21] <ferjm> bz, oh ok, so I just need to implement that interface. Cool. Thanks!
1752. # [19:22] <bz> ferjm: No problem
1753. # [19:22] <bz> ferjm: Sorry for the docs confusion
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1755. # [19:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rnewman: sure
1756. # [19:23] <ferjm> bz, no worries! The docs are *really* helpful btw :)
1757. # [19:23] <bz> ferjm: Good to hear. :)
1758. # [19:24] <rnewman> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ta
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1760. # [19:24] <@ted> so http://www.marco.org/2014/12/09/get-the-word-out is pretty good evidence of why we *shouldn't* try to get gecko on ios
1761. # [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rnewman: sorry, the trees would be open by now, but I was dumb about where I did the backout (and in the mean time, another failure showed up on inbound)
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1764. # [19:26] <rnewman> not a problem
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1780. # [19:34] <nemo> say, is there a way to set the gecko profiler to stay off when a profile is started?
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1783. # [19:35] <froydnj> ted: gecko, or firefox? (or both?)
1784. # [19:35] <Gijs> do we still take screenshots for test failures ?
1785. # [19:35] <nemo> firefox nightly
1786. # [19:35] <nemo> I just don't want it running, most of the time
1787. # [19:35] <dholbert> Gijs, we definitely take screenshots for *reftest* failures
1788. # [19:35] <nemo> could disable it in extensions, but having the button there is handy
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1790. # [19:35] <dholbert> Gijs, I also recall us taking screenshots for "oh no the whole mochitest process has timed out" type stuff, too
1791. # [19:36] <Gijs> dholbert: right. I want a screenshot for "oh no here's an intermittent failure"
1792. # [19:36] <dholbert> Gijs, mochitest?
1793. # [19:36] <Gijs> dholbert: m-bc, yeah
1794. # [19:37] <dholbert> Gijs, we have some sort of window-snapshot JS library that you can use for that, IIRC
1795. # [19:37] <@ted> froydnj: gecko
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1797. # [19:37] <@ted> Gijs: we do take screenshots for mochitest failures
1798. # [19:37] <mrbkap> fitzgen: I'm in New York for the next couple of weeks.
1799. # [19:37] <@ted> it takes a screenshot of the entire desktop
1800. # [19:37] <Gijs> ted: where are they?
1801. # [19:37] <dholbert> ted, wait, really? not on every failure, surely?
1802. # [19:37] <@ted> oh wait
1803. # [19:37] <@ted> no, sorry
1804. # [19:37] <@ted> for timeouts only
1805. # [19:37] <fitzgen> mrbkap: ok, have fun
1806. # [19:38] <dholbert> Gijs, you want https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/WindowSnapshot.js
1807. # [19:38] <djvj> jchen: ping
1808. # [19:38] <jchen> djvj: pong
1809. # [19:38] <dholbert> Gijs, "snapshotWindow"
1810. # [19:38] <@ted> i wrote that because we had a string of timeouts caused by random dialogs/shit running on test machines
1811. # [19:38] <dholbert> Gijs, look for existing usages of that
1812. # [19:38] <Gijs> dholbert: that looks like it'll only do the window
1813. # [19:38] <dholbert> Gijs, oh, you need the full screen?
1814. # [19:38] <Gijs> dholbert: these timeouts are popup-related
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1816. # [19:38] <Gijs> and IME popups don't count as part of the window
1817. # [19:38] <@ted> Gijs: this probably wouldn't be hard to plumb into mochitest nowadays with structured logging
1818. # [19:38] <Gijs> in various circumstances
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1820. # [19:38] <dholbert> Gijs, ah. Maybe you want to hook into ted's thing then, yeah
1821. # [19:39] <@ted> just add some kind of "take a screenshot" message, and make the python harness handle it
1822. # [19:39] <Gijs> ted: ISTR there was a way to programmatically request this already?
1823. # [19:39] <djvj> jchen: I have a question about thread hang stats
1824. # [19:39] <Gijs> s/timeouts/errors/
1825. # [19:39] <djvj> jchen: I'm working on a rather involved patchset which is eliminating the SPS pseudostack
1826. # [19:39] <djvj> jchen: and I'm running in to failures on telemetry test_ThreadHangStats.js
1827. # [19:40] * Gijs finds https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991348
1828. # [19:40] <@ted> Gijs: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/runtests.py#2078
1829. # [19:40] <djvj> jchen: wanted to know how the hangstats stuff interacts with pseudostack. I was informed you might have some insight there.
1830. # [19:40] <@ted> Gijs: that doesn't sound like *exactly* what you want though, unless you only want it on try
1831. # [19:41] <@ted> because it will screenshot every failure which means lots of screenshots
1832. # [19:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e2759f8d7232 - Richard Newman - Bug 1109000 - Split statics out of BrowserLocaleManager. r=nalexander, a=java-only on a CLOSED TREE
1833. # [19:41] <Gijs> ted: if I run this on try / prod, where do the screenshots go?
1834. # [19:41] <@ted> Gijs: they get uploaded to blobber
1835. # [19:41] <@ted> you should be able to see links to them when you click on the test job in treeherder
1836. # [19:41] <Gijs> ted: I don't know what that means except it sounds like 'clobber'
1837. # [19:41] <Gijs> ah
1838. # [19:41] <Gijs> :)
1839. # [19:41] <@ted> (same place we stick minidumps/raw logs etc)
1840. # [19:41] <Gijs> ted: it's intermittent so it's kind of neater if I can just do this on prod... but it's a --option
1841. # [19:41] <@ted> blobber is just a frontend to stick things in s3
1842. # [19:42] <Gijs> where do I configure which things it passes?
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1844. # [19:42] <@ted> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/config/mozharness
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1846. # [19:42] <Gijs> iiinteresting
1847. # [19:42] <jchen> djvj: yes, the hang monitor uses the pseudostack at the time of the hang to differentiate between different hangs
1848. # [19:43] <@ted> Gijs: you should be happy you didn't ask that question a year ago when none of that was there
1849. # [19:43] <jchen> djvj: is there a replacement for pseudostack or will it be gone forever? how does that impact the profiler?
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1851. # [19:46] <djvj> jchen: I'm teaching the profiler how to walk the JS jit stack
1852. # [19:46] <djvj> jchen: so the pseudostack is still around, but it's only used by the interpreter
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1855. # [19:47] <djvj> jchen: I have a question about how the pseudostack is used though..
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1858. # [19:47] <Gijs> ted: :)
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1860. # [19:48] <djvj> jchen: sorry, was just talking with vladan about this stuff
1861. # [19:48] <Gijs> ted: but it sounds like you're saying I can't just turn this on for prod, which basically means try with a gazilion retriggers (this intermittent happens once a day, roughly)
1862. # [19:49] <djvj> jchen: so the upshot is that the pseudostack will still be around, and it'll be used by the C++ code to push entries, and interpreter JS will still push/pop entries.
1863. # [19:49] <@ted> djvj: do we not use a frame pointer for the JIT frames? (I feel like i've asked this before)
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1865. # [19:49] <@ted> Gijs: well, i'm not saying you *can't*
1866. # [19:49] * chmanchester|afk is now known as chmanchester
1867. # [19:49] <@ted> i'm just saying that probably would result in a lot of screenshots being uploaded
1868. # [19:49] <@ted> and i'm not sure if that's a thing we want
1869. # [19:49] <djvj> ted: baseline does, ion doesn't. But Ion does have a "frame descr" word that we push between frames that basically lets you walk frames pretty easily
1870. # [19:49] <djvj> ted: once you have a pointer to the latest frame
1871. # [19:49] <@ted> djvj: gotcha
1872. # [19:50] <@ted> djvj: i ask because we obviously have the same problem for crash reporting
1873. # [19:50] <@ted> and i think we've just punted on it
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1875. # [19:50] <djvj> ted: jchen: what I don't understand is this...
1876. # [19:50] <djvj> the SPS pseudostack is used by JS only when profiling is turned on
1877. # [19:50] <djvj> in all other cases, no entries will be pushed or popped
1878. # [19:51] <djvj> however, this test (test_ThreadHangStats.js in telemetry), seems to expect to get back a JS stack.
1879. # [19:51] <djvj> how does that work? Does it expect profiling to be active at the time it captures the stack?
1880. # [19:51] <jchen> djvj: i see. the hang monitor only looks at the js::RunScript labels in the pseudostack, not the whole jit stack
1881. # [19:51] <@ted> that i don't know
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1883. # [19:52] <djvj> jchen: aaaaah, that makes a lot more sense
1884. # [19:52] <djvj> jchen: I think I eliminated those, or maybe changed them around a bit.
1885. # [19:52] <jchen> djvj: so right now even with profiling turned off, it gets the runscript labels
1886. # [19:52] <djvj> jchen: you pattern match on the RunScript string?
1887. # [19:52] <djvj> jchen: can you point me in the general direction of the logic that does this?
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1891. # [19:54] <jchen> djvj: we look at non-copy labels that are marked as js frames, which currently is true only for the js::RunScript labels.
1892. # [19:54] <jchen> djvj: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/ThreadStackHelper.cpp?rev=de95782a7939#633
1893. # [19:54] <jchen> djvj: it's probably not the best way :) feel free to hack on it
1894. # [19:54] <djvj> jchen: thanks!
1895. # [19:55] <jchen> np
1896. # [19:55] <djvj> jchen: since I'm messing around with this stuff anyway, would there be some other way that you'd prefer for this to be exposed on the pseudostack?
1897. # [19:55] <djvj> jchen: we can have a custom flag that flags the stuff you care about, if you want
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1908. # [19:59] <jchen> djvj: so right now we have two js::RunScript frames, one is a native frame (to satisfy the profiler), the other one is a js frame (to satisfy the hang monitor). but in the profiler you end up seeing js::RunScript twice. it'd be great to somehow hide one of them!
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1915. # [20:04] <djvj> jchen: ok
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1919. # [20:05] <djvj> jchen: I'll get back to you after I look at this a bit closer.
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1934. # [20:13] <dmose> is there a bug tracking the Gij Permafail that's holding fx-team closed?
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1936. # [20:14] <@Cwiiis> paul: http://paulrouget.com/e/firefoxhtml/ So awesome.
1937. # [20:14] <KWierso> dmose: a backout on inbound just merged to m-c
1938. # [20:14] <KWierso> and will soon merge to fx-team
1939. # [20:14] <KWierso> which should reopen things, if RyanVM|sheriffduty says so
1940. # [20:14] <dmose> KWierso: ok, thanks
1941. # [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yep
1942. # [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> will be soon
1943. # [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just merging the fix around
1944. # [20:15] <jesup> bz: Try using Trello without using google as the login provider
1945. # [20:15] <bz> jesup: How, exactly?
1946. # [20:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dmose: fwiw, we typically don't file bugs for tree closures that are caused by code changes
1947. # [20:15] <bz> jesup: the account seems to already exist; I see no other way to log into it...
1948. # [20:15] <jesup> Sign up using an email address...
1949. # [20:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dmose: we just backout the offending patch and mark the bug in question
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1951. # [20:16] <bz> jesup: And it can't be the moco address, right?
1952. # [20:16] <jesup> Aha, someone created it for you? I started using it early on for loop stuff. Login does give you option of email/pwd or Google
1953. # [20:16] <bz> jesup: the context here is that my moco address was added to some trello thing
1954. # [20:16] <jesup> Mine's the moco email
1955. # [20:16] <bz> jesup: which I then wanted to see
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1957. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3368df73756b - Brian Grinstead - Bug 1093730 - Use getPanelWhenReady for debugger state in browser toolbox. r=jryans
1958. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/19855f676807 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge mozilla-central to fx-team
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1961. # [20:17] <bz> jesup: So yeah, someone precreated the account for me or something
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1970. # [20:17] <RattyAway> bwc: with your latest patch in Bug 1109130 I can compile successfully
1971. # [20:17] <jesup> using the google account bz@moz or using an email account bz@moz and sending you the password?
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1975. # [20:18] <jesup> I.e. do you click login with google?
1976. # [20:18] <dmose> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fair enough. i was only interested because i was hoping to be able to follow along without having to bother the people doing the work (like I'm doing right now)
1977. # [20:18] <bz> jesup: When I log in with Google it logs me in
1978. # [20:19] <bz> jesup: I was never sent a password
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1981. # [20:19] <bz> jesup: Log in with Google using the @moz.com address, that is
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2049. # [20:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfeb16066597 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 1012798 part 1. Add one more available reserved slot on globals, because we need it for Window. r=jorendorff
2050. # [20:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/013ca85eaa42 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 1012798 part 2. Stop defining a value property named "window" on the global. r=peterv
2051. # [20:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b58035bdc84f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 1012798 part 3. When doing a DOM slot get in Ion, check whether we're doing a get of a constant value on a singleton object (e.g. .window) and if so just use the constant value directly. r=efaust
2052. # [20:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c44465f2a483 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 1101123. Don't allow redefining the getter of a non-configurable accessor property on native objects, even via the low-level JSAPI methods. r=efaust,bholley
2053. # [20:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4247f2646a63 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 1100757. Don't emit a guard in testCommonGetterSetter when our getter/setter is is a non-configurable property on a native object. r=efaust
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2067. # [20:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/264b413cfe68 - Geoff Brown - Bug 911105 - Wait for view in testSearchSuggestions. r=mfinkle, a=test-only
2068. # [20:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d76ae8de0052 - Geoff Brown - Bug 1108717 - Wait for view before trying to access it in Robocop tests. r=mfinkle, a=test-only
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2071. # [20:57] <jesup> bz: yeah, now they may be adding people's moz-google accounts to Trello when they add someone. Not when I started using it; I signed up first. You could sign up and see if they can switch to your email-based account for the moz stuff.
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2077. # [20:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/5ae0b9d63d6c - Patrick Brosset - Bug 1106079 - Avoid highlighter excpetions on XUL windows to break the style-editor. r=past, a=sledru
2078. # [20:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/099b946a520f - Brian Grinstead - Bug 1107972 - Convert custom colors in profiler to CSS variables fix visual regression caused by specificity change from bug 1102369. r=vporof, a=sledru
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2112. # [21:26] <luke> does anyone know whether it's possible to use XHRs to request pieces of a file?
2113. # [21:26] <luke> (portably)
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2120. # [21:29] <josh> paul: Would love to see FF UI implemented with HTML! Nice project.
2121. # [21:30] <nigelb> I see a meme coming up
2122. # [21:31] <bz> luke: You could try range requests....
2123. # [21:31] <bz> luke: assuming the server supports them
2124. # [21:31] <luke> bz: ooh, what's that?
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2126. # [21:31] <bz> luke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_serving
2127. # [21:32] <luke> bz: ooh, exciting. does your average apache/iis server support them?
2128. # [21:32] <bz> luke: afaik, yes
2129. # [21:32] <luke> bz: sweet, thanks!
2130. # [21:32] <bz> luke: though note that for gzipped content things are complicated
2131. # [21:32] <bz> luke: since the byte range is in theory in the gzipped representation
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2133. # [21:32] <luke> bz: urg, how does that work?
2134. # [21:32] <bz> luke: which in practice sucks for everyone involved
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2136. # [21:33] <bz> luke: well, the _real_ problem is the fact that Content-Encoding:gzip is being abused to replace Transfer-Encoding:gzip....
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2139. # [21:35] <cajbir> luke: byte range requests is how seeking in HTML video is done so it's pretty well supported for media files on servers
2140. # [21:36] <luke> cajbir: is any compression used on top of the video format?
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2199. # [22:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9bbaa27f0975 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1106415 - Allow the add-on SDK to dynamically insert add-on options. r=mfinkle
2200. # [22:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c310bb6e6bc6 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 681432 - Support all add-on types in the add-on manager. r=mfinkle
2201. # [22:12] <jib> mozilla-beta is not compiling for me: /Users/Jan/moz/mozilla-beta/dom/indexedDB/PermissionRequestBase.cpp:30:12: error: unused variable 'kPermissionResponseTopic' [-Werror,-Wunused-const-variable]
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2203. # [22:13] <jib> nothing in bugzilla on it
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2208. # [22:15] <jib> opt build
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2210. # [22:15] <jesup> jib: do you have Werror forced?
2211. # [22:15] <jesup> .mozconfig
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2214. # [22:16] <jib> jesup: yes sorry :*)
2215. # [22:16] <jib> I thought we had that on beta
2216. # [22:16] <jib> jesup: thanks!
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2218. # [22:17] <tromey> enabling Werror has prevented me from writing some bugs though...
2219. # [22:18] * jib sighs as flipping that bit means it now has to rebuild
2220. # [22:18] <tromey> I suspect that bug is fixed in m-c
2221. # [22:18] <tromey> at least on fx-team that constant is protected by DEBUG
2222. # [22:18] <tromey> as it's only use is in a MOZ_ASSERTs
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2237. # [22:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d0a1db612fa - Terrence Cole - Bug 1107349 - Always build in enerational GC support; r=jonco
2238. # [22:27] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4f72c81d5441 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 1097318 - Restore tab strip to its original height (r=mfinkle)
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2242. # [22:30] <bent> bah, we don't have move support for nsCOMPtr?
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2244. # [22:30] <bent> looks like only via forget()
2245. # [22:32] <jesup> bent: ping
2246. # [22:32] <froydnj> bent: see long dev-platform discussions
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2248. # [22:32] <bent> jesup, hi
2249. # [22:32] <bent> froydnj, oh, one of those?
2250. # [22:32] <froydnj> (yes, we have it for nsRefPtr, and yes, this is inconsistent)
2251. # [22:32] <jesup> bent: where can I find info about pbackground IPC?
2252. # [22:33] <bent> jesup, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/BackgroundChild.h#28
2253. # [22:33] <bent> that's about all we have
2254. # [22:33] <bent> froydnj, is this the final state of things?
2255. # [22:33] <froydnj> bent: think so
2256. # [22:34] <froydnj> well, perhaps until we get rvalue-qualifiers on member functions
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2258. # [22:34] <bent> froydnj, is there a mental model that helps me understand why we have the (logical) thing for nsRefPtr and not nsCOMPtr?
2259. # [22:34] <froydnj> and can eliminate the conversion-to-T* footgun folks complained about
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2261. # [22:34] <jesup> bent: and how long has it been around? We had a horrid problem on b2g because network IO was going through IPC and the b2g process was falling behind due to a 30fps "network activity" anim........ :-( 3s (not ms) RTT for loopback. (wallpapered for now by switching to 5 or 6 fps anim)
2262. # [22:34] <bent> ah
2263. # [22:35] <froydnj> because people complained louder about nsCOMPtr than nsRefPtr, and because I asked people's opinions about nsCOMPtr and not about nsRefPtr
2264. # [22:35] <bent> jesup, for a while now, see blame and bugs for details
2265. # [22:35] <bent> jesup, indexeddb is the main consumer at the moment
2266. # [22:35] <jesup> Also, IPC for webrtc touching mainthread will be horrid for all sorts of reasons (and is likely messing up the bandwidth estimator on e10s)
2267. # [22:36] <jesup> since it relies on interpacket latency tracking
2268. # [22:37] <bent> froydnj, ok. is there any template magic that we could use to make nsCOMPtr<T> a = Move(/* other nsCOMPtr<T> */) fail?
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2270. # [22:37] <jesup> We could (with major pain/ugliness) work around that part, but we really need to move off mainthread (and REALLY need to for sandboxing)
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2272. # [22:37] <bent> froydnj, maybe just making that && constructor MOZ_DELETE?
2273. # [22:37] <froydnj> bent: I think MOZ_DELETE'ing the appropriate operators would work...on most compilers, anyway
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2275. # [22:38] <froydnj> might even work everywhere if msvc 2013 supports that
2276. # [22:38] <bent> froydnj, because it's really suprising that it doesn't work imo
2277. # [22:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97df7d232e7f - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 39398fba066e (bug 1098386) for actually leaking
2278. # [22:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96b86345fe30 - Bobby Holley - Bug 1108707 - Make reader shutdown asynchronous. r=cpearce (relanding on a CLOSED TREE because it wasn't the source of the leaks)
2279. # [22:38] <froydnj> bent: agreed :(
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2281. # [22:38] <tbsaunde> makes sense, if that fails specializing Move() should work I think
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2283. # [22:41] <tbsaunde> froydnj: do I need to pass flags to cmake when building rr to debug it?
2284. # [22:41] <froydnj> tbsaunde: no, I think it builds with -g3 (and possibly even -O0) by default
2285. # [22:41] <Waldo> firebot: Havi Hoffman?
2286. # [22:41] <firebot> Waldo: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Havi Hoffman' might be.
2287. # [22:42] <Waldo> boo-urns
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2289. # [22:42] <bent> froydnj, filed bug 1109297
2290. # [22:42] <tbsaunde> froydnj: hrm, attaching gdb connects me to a remote that has no useful information
2291. # [22:43] <Waldo> bent: deleting the methods and making them private should do the trick
2292. # [22:43] <bent> yeah
2293. # [22:44] <froydnj> tbsaunde: are you attaching gdb to rr itself, or to the socket that rr told you to attach to?
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2295. # [22:44] <Waldo> bent: and if you think nsCOMPtr should be movable, I concur
2296. # [22:44] <bent> totally
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2298. # [22:45] <Waldo> just need to add a type for passing parameters, I think, so we can get rid of implicit T* conversion operators
2299. # [22:45] <@roc> tbsaunde, froydnj: yeah, rr builds with -g3 and -O0
2300. # [22:45] <tromey> that would be great
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2315. # [22:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/56266e35a53f - Kyle Machulis - Bug 1105511 - Check validity of principals before doing permissions check; r=gerard-majax
2316. # [22:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0b948e1e1891 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 1105511 - Store principals with locks instead of with tasks; r=gerard-majax
2317. # [22:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d5fde9d729e4 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 1105511 - Make observer principal cache name reflect content; r=gerard-majax
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2323. # [23:00] <tbsaunde> froydnj: the socket rr told me to attach to, but attaching to rr before it asserts seems to work
2324. # [23:01] <froydnj> tbsaunde: the socket rr tells you to attach to is for the program you're tracing, which may or may not be useful, depending
2325. # [23:01] <tbsaunde> froydnj: ah, yeah, that's no good here I think
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2328. # [23:02] <tbsaunde> rr's failing an assert because it got sigsys while handling sigpipe which I assume means the traced program did a bad syscall during a signal handler?
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2339. # [23:06] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I don't think that's the case...sounds like replay divergence
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2343. # [23:07] <tbsaunde> froydnj: this is during recording
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2355. # [23:14] <froydnj> tbsaunde: oh, hm
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2364. # [23:23] <@roc> what's the problem?
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2367. # [23:25] <Waldo> anyone around who happens to know (ideally, write code in) Arabic?
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2369. # [23:26] <@roc> jfkthame may know some Arabic
2370. # [23:26] <Waldo> or rather, write code that would produce Arabic output, I guess
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2372. # [23:27] <Waldo> I am reliably informed that in http://web.mit.edu/jwalden/www/intl-post-v4.html the ar-EG percentage case should ideally display the percentage with the Arabic % on the left-hand side of the number
2373. # [23:28] <@roc> rtl issue; file a bug and inform smontagu or jfkthame
2374. # [23:28] <Waldo> roc: not meaning to say there's a bug, sorry
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2377. # [23:29] <Waldo> roc: it happens that the algorithmic *output* demonstrated there, puts the percentage sign at the end of the JS string that's produced -- so transliterating it's "4" + "3" + "." + "8" + "2" + "%"
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2381. # [23:29] <@roc> ah ok
2382. # [23:30] <Waldo> but surrounding the Arabic in <bdo> with various dirs doesn't manage to produce %43.82 display
2383. # [23:30] <Waldo> which has me wondering if our algorithmic output should be "%" + "4" + "3" + ... instead or something
2384. # [23:31] <Waldo> direct string-to-HTML-entities translation produces &#x664;&#x663;&#x66b;&#x668;&#x660;&#x66a; which is what's currently directly in the source there
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2387. # [23:32] <Waldo> the specific feedback I have is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/7889427
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2397. # [23:35] <smontagu> Waldo: data:text/html;charset=utf-8,<bdi dir="rtl">٤٣٫٨٠٪ gives me the expected result
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2405. # [23:38] <tbsaunde> roc: rr with e10s seems rather broken I see http://paste.debian.net/135741/ basically every time I try and record a run
2406. # [23:38] <smontagu> Waldo: if you want to use a <bdo> you will need to revers the digits (which is maybe what the 2nd paragraph in that pastebin is saying, I"m not 100% sure
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2409. # [23:39] <Waldo> smontagu: so Intl.NumberFormat with percent styling, for ar-EG, produces "12.34%" transliterated to Arabic digits with Arabic percent sign
2410. # [23:39] <Waldo> smontagu: for us, that is
2411. # [23:40] <Waldo> smontagu: IE produces "12.34 %"
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2413. # [23:40] <smontagu> Waldo: it depends on the direction of the paragraph as well
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2415. # [23:40] <Waldo> smontagu: it's not clear to me what output is actually useful, since (at least sometimes, I believe) the intent of the API is that you treat the contents of the formatted string as opaque
2416. # [23:41] <Waldo> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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2418. # [23:41] <Waldo> certainly we do *not* want people to be picking at the individual code units of the returned string
2419. # [23:42] <Waldo> smontagu: IE people have asked me what I thought about putting BDO control characters in the string, to force correct interpretation and aid copying/pasting
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2421. # [23:42] <Waldo> smontagu: which seems like a great idea to me, except I'm not qualified to really say that (or the opposite) :-)
2422. # [23:42] <smontagu> control characters in the output of NumberFormat? I don't think that's a good idea
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2424. # [23:42] <Waldo> yeah, see? :-)
2425. # [23:43] <Waldo> at least, unless your concern is because people would poke at the returned code units/code points
2426. # [23:43] <Waldo> we are not going to guarantee any particular formatting, and we have WONTFIX'd bugs complaining about changes or adjustments
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2430. # [23:44] <smontagu> I think we want the formatting to be controllable by markup and style
2431. # [23:44] <smontagu> and inserting control characters would prevent that
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2434. # [23:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/22eb2228358f - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 09bd629ead0f (bug 731318) for mochitest-e10s-devtools orange
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2436. # [23:46] <Waldo> smontagu: except, if someone's formatting a particular number, haven't they already implicitly specified the meaning, such that reversing 12.34 into 43.21 would be nonsense?
2437. # [23:46] <@njn> my Mozilla blog is claiming I don't have recaptcha keys; anyone know about this?
2438. # [23:46] * stephend|mtg is now known as stephend|drappt
2439. # [23:47] <smontagu> Waldo: that shouldn't happen. if the formatted string is 12.34%, then in an LTR context it should appear as 12.34% and in an RTL context it should appear as %12.34
2440. # [23:47] <smontagu> never 43.21
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2443. # [23:48] <Waldo> smontagu: hum
2444. # [23:48] <Waldo> (see how much I know about all this stuff!)
2445. # [23:48] <smontagu> s/RTL/RTL Arabic/
2446. # [23:49] * @njn finds https://www.google.com/recaptcha/admin#list
2447. # [23:51] <Waldo> smontagu: the pastebin was copied out of mail from Anas El Husseini, btw
2448. # [23:51] <smontagu> Waldo: the interaction of digits with RTL text is the hardest part of bidi
2449. # [23:51] <smontagu> and you can trust him :)
2450. # [23:51] <Waldo> smontagu: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/7889776 is my initial email plus his full response, if it helps at all
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2452. # [23:52] <Waldo> la la la I have no idea what I'm doing la la la :-)
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2454. # [23:53] <Waldo> what is/is not most readable is the concern there
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2456. # [23:53] <Waldo> it could well also be that someone producing Arabic formatted numbers, is going to test behavior and proceed accordingly, and thus wouldn't 100% (%100?) trust a potentially misleading comment except as a guide to what happens
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2459. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26b6268a5b18 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Modernize AccEventGen.py; r=froydnj
2460. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f85f9a3d6712 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Removed unused cachedir option; r=froydnj
2461. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3de240f1f86e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Switch to argparse; r=froydnj
2462. # [23:54] * chmanchester is now known as chmanchester|afk
2463. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2662199707fd - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Use positional arguments; r=froydnj
2464. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9bbb3e155e9 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Use mozbuild.makeutil for dependency file writing; r=froydnj
2465. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cbc28021b7b - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Removed unused makeutils Python module; r=froydnj
2466. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/445641aa96c1 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 1108294 - Remove python/codegen from virtualenv; r=froydnj
2467. # [23:54] <dmajor> Callek: ping
2468. # [23:54] <Callek> I am the very model of a modern major general
2469. # [23:54] <Callek> oooo huh, pong
2470. # [23:54] * Callek is in a silly mood
2471. # [23:55] <Waldo> Callek: your humor fell flat
2472. # [23:55] <Callek> Waldo: usually does
2473. # [23:55] <Waldo> nah, usually you're sharp
2474. # [23:55] <dmajor> I got it; I just couldn't think of any part of the song that rhymes with 'compiler'
2475. # [23:55] <smontagu> Waldo: I agree, one would tend to take Arabic in a code comment with a pinch of salt
2476. # [23:56] <Callek> dmajor: anyway, whats up?
2477. # [23:56] <smontagu> the ordering of it in particular, I mean
2478. # [23:56] <smontagu> Waldo: your joke was off key
2479. # [23:56] <dmajor> Callek: is seamonkey still good to drop vs2010 on the 15th?
2480. # [23:56] <Callek> dmajor: no and yes :-)
2481. # [23:56] <Callek> dmajor: we won't be "ready" on the 15th, but I see no reason to reverse my assertion of "m-c can drop it on the 15"
2482. # [23:57] <Callek> dmajor: at least as far as SeaMonkey is concerned
2483. # [23:57] * Callek heard a rumor that TB may not even build with MSVC2013, but I can't confirm that [nor have I tried to]
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2485. # [23:57] <dmajor> Callek: fair enough. I hadn't seen any news on that thread in a while so was just curious if anything had changed
2486. # [23:57] * davidb is now known as davidb|afk
2487. # [23:57] <Waldo> smontagu: okay -- I think I will just do as if by |new Intl.NumberFormat("ar-EG", { style: "percent" }).format(43.8).split("").map(s => "&#x" + s.charCodeAt(0).toString(16) + ";").join("")| then, with the literal HTML entities I have right now, no <bdo> or anything
2488. # [23:57] <Callek> and TB is using the official Mozilla build machines
2489. # [23:57] <Waldo> smontagu: it seemed the natural response...
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2491. # [23:58] * Waldo waits for the minor d to chime in :-)
2492. # [23:58] * davidb|afk is now known as davidb
2493. # [23:58] <smontagu> I thought that last one was accidental
2494. # [23:58] <Callek> dmajor: the tl;dr to me is I promised ehsan the 15th was reasonable, for him and his teams planning, and I see no reason to throw a fork in those plans
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2496. # [23:59] <dmajor> Callek: ok, thanks
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2498. # [23:59] <Waldo> rarely is my humor accidental :-)
2499. # [23:59] <dholbert> BenWa, how did you view the profiles in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105634 ? I tried to upload the JSON files from the zip, to https://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/ , but I get blank profile with undefined values
2500. # [23:59] <Waldo> at worst it is belatedly intended
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