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# Session Start: Fri Dec 12 00:00:00 2014
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:00] <@ehsan> ah, well, this test suite is doing bad thungs
# [00:00] <@ehsan> *things
# [00:00] <@ehsan> including SimpleTest.js in files that are not mochitests
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# [00:01] <huseby> anybody know why the try tree is closed?
# [00:02] <huseby> ah I see pulsebot
# [00:02] <Ms2ger> https://treestatus.mozilla.org/ does
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# [00:02] <huseby> what does SCL3 issues mean?
# [00:02] <@ehsan> froydnj: you around?
# [00:03] <KWierso> huseby: SCL3 is the name of one of the databases we use
# [00:03] <RyanVM> huseby: it means that our primary datacenter where a lot of our services live has seen better days
# [00:03] <KWierso> er, datacenters
# [00:03] <RyanVM> also, see the most-recent MOC email that went out
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# [00:04] <RyanVM> there are a couple recent MOC emails about it
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# [00:18] <aklotz> KWierso: My patch could not have caused that M11 crash
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# [00:19] <KWierso> aklotz: ugh, I copied the wrong commit
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# [00:20] <KWierso> aklotz: relanding you, sorry about that
# [00:21] <aklotz> KWierso: no worries, just glad that we caught it! :-)
# [00:21] <philcostin> hello ladies and gents; I'm not sure if this is the right place to suggest this.. but how about a browser-version expiry date?...
# [00:21] <philcostin> no more working browser after say 18 months unless upgraded
# [00:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ee80f974980 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 22484b7bbff3 (bug 1108728) for mochitest-11 bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:22] <philcostin> or overridden in a file or registry setting
# [00:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8eea64db9552 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 1070755: Telemetry to track total time that the main thread is blocked during plugin initialization; r=vladan (Relanding because I meant to back out a different commit for bustage, not this) CLOSED TREE
# [00:22] <philcostin> ?
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# [00:23] * @smaug wouldn't go so far. Just a warning about the use of old browser
# [00:23] <@smaug> like changing part of the UI red or something
# [00:23] <philcostin> reason being: people who have had firefox installed for them by family will just press OK and keep using old version
# [00:24] <philcostin> argh this irc client is deleting what I'm writing
# [00:25] <@smaug> newsgroups might be better for this kind of stuff. dev.firefox perhaps
# [00:25] <KWierso> aklotz: fixed
# [00:25] <@smaug> newsgroup/mailinglist
# [00:25] <philcostin> popup box "your browser is now too old, please press ok to update
# [00:25] <aklotz> KWierso: thanks :-)
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# [00:25] <philcostin> ok, thanks I'll suggest there :P
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# [00:29] <heycam> I wonder whether all-moco-mofo really needs to know that BFD is being removed from OSPFv3
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# [00:30] <RyanVM> heycam: it's a pretty BFD if you ask me!
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# [00:31] <heycam> :)
# [00:31] * dmajor should really send MOC to another folder
# [00:31] <@njn> who understands region unioning in Cairo?
# [00:31] <@njn> roc?
# [00:32] <@smaug> vlad might remember something about it
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# [00:32] <@njn> we do GiBs of allocations for it: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/7938120
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# [00:32] <@njn> looking at the code, it sort of looks like it might be avoidable, but I don't understand it enough to know for sure
# [00:33] <dmajor> wow
# [00:33] <@njn> it seems to be quite pessimistic in guessing how many rectangles will be in the result
# [00:33] <RyanVM> jrmuizel maybe?
# [00:33] <@njn> max(numRects1,numRects2) * 2
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# [00:34] <@njn> almost always, one of the region is trivial, i.e. is a single rectangle
# [00:34] <@njn> quite often both regions are trivial
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# [00:36] <tbsaunde> dmajor: do you know if I can get some sort of useful dump for linux crashes and how hard that is?
# [00:36] <AutomatedTester> lsblakk: hey, when is the firefox release in February 2015. My wiki-fu is failing to find it for me
# [00:36] <lsblakk> 2-24
# [00:36] <lsblakk> AutomatedTester: ^
# [00:36] <RyanVM> AutomatedTester: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
# [00:36] <lsblakk> am just updating https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Release_owners#Release_Owners right now
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# [00:36] <dmajor> tbsaunde: on your own machine or from the wild?
# [00:36] <lsblakk> so it's quite handy :)
# [00:36] <AutomatedTester> lsblakk: brilliant! thanks!
# [00:37] <tbsaunde> dmajor: crashes in the wild
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# [00:38] <dmajor> tbsaunde: well we do get... something. but it's a .dmp file which is certainly not what it was at the source. I think there's some translation tool, ted might know more
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# [00:40] <dmajor> hm this might be relevant to glandium too
# [00:40] <tbsaunde> dmajor: k, I'll probably not bother then, I think I know what's happening, but it would be nice to be sure
# [00:41] <glandium> what's the question?
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# [00:41] <dmajor> glandium: oh just a heads up that the linux dumps you're after will be in .dmp format
# [00:41] <glandium> dmajor: i know that :)
# [00:41] <dmajor> glandium: how do you deal with those?
# [00:41] <glandium> minidump_dump
# [00:41] <dmajor> what does that do?
# [00:42] <glandium> it dumps the contents of that dump
# [00:42] <glandium> in a human readable format
# [00:42] <dmajor> well hey, that certainly sounds useful
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# [00:54] <jesup> glandium: ping - is there a way to get the mozbuild stuff to dump the data it's reading for "LoadOneBuildFile()" in gyp/input.py:223? I'm getting a syntax error, but all it will tell me is that it's line 101 in <string>
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# [00:55] * jesup is glad they haven't actually switched from .gyp files to .gn files (yet). Though it may be coming....
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# [00:56] <jesup> .gn files are actually much closer to moz.build files though
# [00:56] <glandium> jesup: apart from editing the gyp code, not that i know of
# [00:57] <jesup> glandium: simple hack - what's the python to dump the entirety of build_file_contents somewhere (even stdout/err)?
# [00:58] <jrmuizel> njn: where are you looking at?
# [00:58] <glandium> jesup: print?
# [00:58] <jesup> the problem is the line it shows as a syntax error is generic so I can't figure out why it's an error ('dependencies':)
# [00:58] <@njn> jrmuizel: I'm in the middle of filing a bug that explains it all
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# [00:58] <@njn> jrmuizel: I'll CC you shortly
# [00:59] <@njn> jrmuizel: I'm just gathering some more measurements
# [00:59] <jesup> probably. I forget python when I don't touch it for months
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# [01:06] <@njn> jrmuizel: bug 1110530
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# [01:11] <glandium> njn: is it something we can actually fix without touching pixman?
# [01:12] <@njn> glandium: I don't know, but we have tons of moz-only patches for Cairo
# [01:12] <@njn> jrmuizel: I've added some extra data now
# [01:13] <glandium> which reminds me, jrmuizel how far are we from switching off cairo for web content?
# [01:13] <jrmuizel> glandium: far
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# [01:13] <glandium> jrmuizel: i thought we were closer than that :(
# [01:13] <jrmuizel> glandium: currently schedule for 2016
# [01:14] <glandium> ah yeah, that's pretty far
# [01:14] <jrmuizel> glandium: it hasn't been a priority lately
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# [01:32] <@njn> jrmuizel: if two regions are trivial (i.e. consist of a single rectangle), I don't understand how the result of or/intersect/subtract could be non-trivial...
# [01:32] <jrmuizel> subtract is easy
# [01:33] <jrmuizel> imagine subtracting a hole out of a larger rectangle
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# [01:33] <bholley> botond: yt?
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# [01:33] <jrmuizel> njn: intersect of two rectangles should always be a rectangle
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# [01:34] <@njn> jrmuizel: ok, I think I see how union could result in non-trivial too
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# [01:34] <jrmuizel> njn: good
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# [01:35] <jrmuizel> njn: so the dumbest way to fix this bug is defer unioning the rectangles a bit
# [01:35] <abr> derf: ping
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# [01:35] <jrmuizel> njn: and then union a bunch of them at the same time
# [01:35] <@njn> jrmuizel: is that in gecko rather than Cairo?
# [01:36] <jrmuizel> njn: we would do this in gecko
# [01:36] <@njn> jrmuizel: fine by me :)
# [01:36] <jrmuizel> njn: accumulate would just keep an array of rectangles that it would fill up first before unioning them
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# [01:37] <@njn> jrmuizel: would you still have to call union() on every one?
# [01:37] <jrmuizel> njn: no, pixman supports unioning a whole set of rectangles
# [01:37] <@njn> ah, good
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# [01:38] <jrmuizel> njn: how much of a problem is this?
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# [01:38] <@njn> we're talking milliions of calls to malloc() when scrolling through Treeherder for a few seconds
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# [01:40] <@njn> that will cause lots of contention for the malloc lock, plus there's the malloc cost itself
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# [01:40] <jrmuizel_> njn: I may have missed a message...
# [01:40] <jrmuizel_> njn: are we switching to jemalloc3 ever?
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# [01:40] <@njn> jrmuizel_: hopefully soon, but that's not a silver bullet for overallocating
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# [01:41] <glandium> jrmuizel: we are, but how is it related?
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# [01:41] <jrmuizel_> glandium: less contention?
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# [01:41] <glandium> we're not going to enable tcache
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# [01:41] <jrmuizel_> oh
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# [01:41] <jrmuizel_> glandium: because of memory usage?
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# [01:41] <glandium> but yeah, tcache would help with contention
# [01:41] <glandium> jrmuizel_: yes
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# [01:42] <@njn> jrmuizel_: even if we had tcache, I think it would still be worth fixing; this is accounting for about 25% of cumulative heap allocations
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# [01:42] <@njn> that's pretty crazy
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# [01:42] <@njn> and it sounds like fixing it isn't too hard
# [01:42] <@njn> (25% on this workload)
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# [01:43] <@njn> jrmuizel_: thank you
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# [01:43] <@njn> jrmuizel_: I'll try profiling the single-page html5 spec next :)
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# [01:45] <KWierso> njn: and back to approval required until I can make sure we don't have any bustage waiting to strike :)
# [01:45] <@njn> KWierso: as I just discovered, the hard way :/
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# [01:46] <KWierso> njn: actually, I think I'll just get in the merges to m-c and see where we're sitting then
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# [01:56] <markh> oops - wrong channel :)
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# [02:01] <markh> I can reliably crash nightly with an illegal instruction exception on Windows simply by opening about:accounts and signing in :/ Happens for both locally built (both vs2010 and vs2013) and the actual nightly channel. Debugger can't show a stack trace although https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/88ab862b-313b-4a22-84a7-188872141212 gives 2 frames (Which may or may not be accurate I guess)
# [02:01] <markh> can't find anything in bugzilla - happens on all profiles, including a brand-new one.
# [02:01] <markh> any ideas on how I can get more info?
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# [02:02] <glandium> markh: what's the illegal instruction?
# [02:02] <jrmuizel_> njn: ping
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# [02:04] <markh> glandium: > 1c040be6() is showing as the call-stack
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# [02:04] <markh> (which I assume is the instruction in question)
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# [02:05] <markh> yeah, and debugger also says "Unhandled exception at 0x1C040BE6 in firefox.exe: 0xC000001D: Illegal Instruction."
# [02:07] <markh> fwiw, no crash on aurora or earlier. So I guess mozregression might also help
# [02:07] <glandium> markh: what does the disassembly view say the instruction is?
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# [02:08] * markh only just upgraded to vs2013 so is having trouble finding that window :)
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# [02:08] <markh> glandium: 1C040BE6 vaddsd xmm0,xmm1,xmm0
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# [02:09] <seth> argh, all this XPCOM macro magic is quite confusing
# [02:09] <seth> i'm trying to pull code that was in a concrete class into an interface (not an XPCOM interface, mind you)
# [02:09] <glandium> markh: sounds like the jit is trying to use avx instructions and your cpu doesn't support them
# [02:09] <seth> after that change, i am getting "error: non-static member 'AddRef' found in multiple base-class subobjects of type 'nsISupports':"
# [02:10] <seth> i suspect that one of the magic XPCOM macros fixes this situation up for you, but not sure which one
# [02:11] <seth> hmm, maybe NS_IMPL_ADDREF and NS_IMPL_RELEASE are needed even though this is an interface
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# [02:11] <markh> the crash report says I've got "GenuineIntel family 6 model 58 stepping 9 | 8" - it's an i7-3770
# [02:11] <glandium> markh: can you check the value of js::jit::CPUInfo::avxPresent and avxEnabled?
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# [02:13] <glandium> markh: interestingly, the i7-3770 is supposed to support avx...
# [02:14] <glandium> maybe windows is disabling them?
# [02:14] <glandium> in which case the cpuid would be lying to us
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# [02:16] <markh> glandium: so yeah, it sounds like you aren't surprised to find both those vars are true
# [02:17] <glandium> markh: yeah, so now the question is why a valid avx instruction doesn't run on your cpu that supports avx
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# [02:20] <glandium> markh: do you have linux on that machine?
# [02:20] <@njn> hmm, PerSpanData::mBaseline doesn't appear to be used usefully
# [02:20] <markh> glandium: no
# [02:20] <@njn> jrmuizel_: pong
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# [02:22] <markh> hrm - random googling led me to "bcdedit" to show the boot manager config
# [02:23] <markh> and xsavedisable is true, which *looks* like it disables that
# [02:23] <glandium> markh: fwiw, i tested on a machine that has avx but not axv2 and that instruction works
# [02:23] <glandium> (in case that was an avx vs avx2 problem)
# [02:24] <markh> glandium: see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff542202%28v=vs.85%29.aspx - it talks about "XSAVE functionality"
# [02:24] <markh> is that related?
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# [02:25] <glandium> markh: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2568088 suggests it is
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# [02:25] <glandium> markh: search for the workaround part
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# [02:26] <glandium> markh: sounds like we need to improve avx detection
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# [02:26] <markh> glandium: so it sounds possible vmware toggled that for me
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# [02:27] <glandium> markh: are you running in a vm?
# [02:27] <markh> no
# [02:27] <markh> but have vmware installed
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# [02:30] <markh> but google can't find much to suggest it does that
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# [02:41] <KWierso> njn: open now for realz
# [02:41] <@njn> KWierso: thanks
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# [02:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76b604c4556c - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 1109407 - Give SegmentedVector a default segment size. r=froydnj.
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# [02:47] <markh> glandium: I suspect toggling that flag will fix it for me (but some some reason my machine is taking many minutes to shut down after setting it). If that turns out to be true, what component should I open a bug in?
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# [02:47] <glandium> markh: js engine
# [02:47] <glandium> markh: cc me, i'm curious
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# [02:49] <markh> whew - at least it booted :) Now to test...
# [02:50] <markh> glandium: yep, works now
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# [02:50] <glandium> markh: now the question is how to detect that... :-/
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# [03:07] <glandium> markh: https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2011/04/14/is-avx-enabled/ we just need to check one more bit
# [03:08] <markh> ah, nice
# [03:08] <glandium> markh: commented in the bug
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# [03:16] <@njn> KWierso|afk: I don't see why it would be me... my aptch is really simple and unrelated to Vlgrind testing...
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# [03:18] <glandium> KWierso|afk: reading the log would have told you that it's infra ;)
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# [03:18] <KWierso|afk> glandium: reading the log is for people without |afk in their names...
# [03:19] <glandium> fair enough
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# [04:10] <khuey> chunminchang: if you move TabParent.cpp out of UNIFIED_SOURCES and into a SOURCES does it still build?
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# [04:10] <valentin> anyone know how I can force refresh (ctrl-F5) in a mochitest?
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# [04:11] <bz> Just do it?
# [04:12] <valentin> bz: I want to have the mochitest do it :)
# [04:12] <bz> Oh
# [04:12] <bz> Write a chrome test that does it for you?
# [04:12] <bz> Using the same docshell APIs we use for ctrl-F5?
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# [05:25] <nigelb> morning
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# [05:32] <daleharvey> anyone know who I ask to get a new mailing list set up?
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# [05:34] <Unfocused> daleharvey: file a bug in mozilla.org :: Discussion Forums
# [05:35] <daleharvey> ah perfect, thanks
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# [05:37] <daleharvey> Unfocused: hrm, not seeing that or a related component @ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?full=1
# [05:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/48f4e72f94cb - Fabrice Desré - Bug 1094966 - Follow app redirects properly on js initiated navigation r=bz
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# [05:38] <nigelb> daleharvey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&component=Discussion%20Forums
# [05:41] <daleharvey> great thanks
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# [05:41] <nigelb> the autocomplete is nicer :)
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# [05:43] <daleharvey> I have no idea why I have never thought to use that, I am dumb, thanks
# [05:44] <nigelb> :)
# [05:44] <Shadowized> did the method to do PGO builds change? like a new flag or something I need to put in my mozconfig?
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# [06:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6acf307a8620 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 1104927 - UITour: Add Loop conversation view target for email/copy link buttons. r=Unfocused,mixedpuppy
# [06:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1f86aebdcc2e - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 1016825 - Show legacy-Sync-to-Firefox-Accounts migration notifications in the main browser window. r=markh
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# [06:11] <@roc> haha I think I just destroyed the Web
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# [06:12] <nigelb> this is going on qdb
# [06:12] <@roc> I created a testcase which is the CSS/SVG equivalent of "this statement is false"
# [06:14] <@roc> bz: behold!
# [06:14] <@roc> <svg id="s"><style>#b { display: none; }</style></svg>
# [06:14] <@roc> <style>#b { display: block; }</style>
# [06:14] <@roc> <div id="b"><svg><use xlink:href="#s"></use></svg></div>
# [06:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1eb0c25d9113 - David Anderson - Fix displayport bounds not being computed from the correct origin. (bug 1109949, r=tn)
# [06:15] <heycam> does... does the style sheet in the use shadow tree actually apply to the <div id=b>?
# [06:15] <@roc> I guess it's questionable as to whether a display:none <use> element should instantiate the shadow nodes or not.
# [06:15] <@roc> heycam: sure does, in Gecko
# [06:16] <@roc> this actually throws Gecko into an infinite loop
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# [06:20] <@roc> heycam: it appears that in Blink, <use>-instantiated style sheets simply don't take effect
# [06:21] <heycam> roc, ok. even to other elements in the shadow tree?
# [06:21] <@roc> I can't tell
# [06:21] <@roc> hmm hang on
# [06:21] <heycam> roc, we're in the process of re-casting <use> as something that uses shadow trees, so we'll likely make it do the same as they do
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# [06:21] <heycam> roc, unfortunately the shadow dom spec is pretty underspecified when it comes to style sheets
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# [06:22] <@roc> yeah it appears to not apply within shadow trees
# [06:23] <@roc> my testcase:
# [06:23] <@roc> <svg id="s"><style>#b { display: none; } rect { fill:orange; }</style><rect width="10" height="10" fill="lime"/></svg>
# [06:23] <@roc> <style>#b { display: block; } rect { fill:blue; }</style>
# [06:23] <@roc> <div id="b" style="border:2px solid black"><svg><use xlink:href="#s"></use></svg></div>
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# [06:23] <@roc> there are two rects. Both are blue.
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# [06:24] <heycam> ok
# [06:24] <@roc> what do you think we should do?
# [06:24] <heycam> I think we should treat them as style sheets scoped to the ShadowRoot
# [06:24] <heycam> well, ShadowRoot isn't what we use internally yet
# [06:24] <heycam> but I think that's how it ought to behave
# [06:24] <@roc> hmmm
# [06:25] <@roc> ok
# [06:25] <@roc> I don't really want to implement that to fix this hang bug
# [06:25] <@roc> maybe I can just disable <use>-cloned style sheets for now?
# [06:26] <heycam> yeah probably nobody is relying on it
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# [06:26] <@roc> another question: should display:none (or any styles) on <use> affect whether it instantiates a shadow tree?
# [06:26] <nigelb> kentuckyfriedtakahe: is the b2g desktop debug build failure something to do with your push?
# [06:27] <nigelb> (I've retriggered it, just in case)
# [06:27] <heycam> I think the shadow tree is inaccessible from script?
# [06:27] <heycam> so it shouldn't matter
# [06:27] <heycam> although who knows if you put a <foreignObject><audio> in there or something...
# [06:27] <@roc> yeah
# [06:28] <heycam> the spec doesn't say, because the spec assumes there is no actual shadow tree
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# [06:28] <heycam> just a lightweight reflection of the subtree you're using
# [06:28] <@roc> what if you put a <script> in the shadow tree?
# [06:28] <heycam> per spec now that shouldn't run
# [06:28] <heycam> since there's no cloned <script> element
# [06:28] <@roc> ok
# [06:28] <heycam> in the future...
# [06:28] <heycam> it's a bit like <template><script>
# [06:29] <heycam> which when you create the web componenty thing will run, I think
# [06:29] <@roc> if you promise to ensure that display:none <use> subtrees are unobservable I can live without an answer to that question
# [06:29] <heycam> I don't promise that will be true in the future
# [06:29] <heycam> I haven't thought about it enough
# [06:29] <@roc> ok
# [06:30] <@roc> just keep in mind that we'll need an answer to that question, then
# [06:30] <heycam> ok
# [06:30] <heycam> there's a lot of spec work to do to make <use> work in terms of Shadow DOM. so we'll handle display:none <use> as part of that.
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# [06:32] <@roc> it would be neat to have a constrained form of <use> where instantiating the subtree is guaranteed to have no side effects
# [06:32] <@roc> and where <use> has no overflow
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# [06:32] <@roc> that would permit various optimizations to lazily instantiate the subtree only for elements which are actually visible
# [06:32] <heycam> yes! I was thinking about something similar in the telcon this morning
# [06:32] <heycam> exactly
# [06:33] <heycam> and have a single subtree backing multiple instances of the <use> too
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# [06:35] <@roc> that's a little harder due to the wonky way CSS is specified to work with <use>
# [06:36] <heycam> I was hoping to allow the author to opt in to not inheriting style into the shadow tree
# [06:36] <heycam> or maybe vice versa -- I'm not certain all browsers do the inheriting style properly at the moment
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# [06:39] <@roc> What do you think is the right way to disable stylesheets in the cloned subtree? Just recursively walk the cloned subtree and delete them?
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# [06:39] <@roc> I thought we'd have something to disable scripts, but we don't seem to
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# [06:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/774b930d3c30 - Garvan Keeley - Bug 1106584, Part 1: guard against null intent. r=vng
# [06:41] <heycam> roc, not sure it's the best way, but maybe you could override one of the nsStyleLinkElement methods on SVGStyleElement to check whether it's in the <use> shadow tree before going ahead and updating the style sheet
# [06:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/75b1795062d9 - Garvan Keeley - Bug 1106584 - Part 2: for safety, make explicit prefs with context getter. r=vng
# [06:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d95d0b4d113d - Nivvedan S - Bug 1109233 - Replaced Assert.isTrue(false, ...) with Assert.fail(...) for easier readability; r=mcomella
# [06:42] <heycam> roc, UpdateStyleSheet would be the one
# [06:42] <@roc> how about DoUpdateStyleSheet?
# [06:43] <heycam> roc, that one's not virtual. though you could add the logic in there if you check for an svg:style I guess
# [06:43] <heycam> roc, it's already doing some checking like for <link> in shadow trees
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# [06:45] <@roc> why check for an svg:style? We don't want any kind of stylesheet to work here
# [06:45] <heycam> roc, oh yeah indeed
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# [06:45] <heycam> roc, it's that it's an SVG shadow tree that matters
# [06:45] <heycam> man, I'm still typing content/<tab><tab><tab>
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# [06:46] <heycam> sounds perfect :)
# [06:47] <@roc> yep, all good. 3 line patch
# [06:47] <heycam> great!
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# [06:55] <philor> ckerschb_: pong
# [06:55] <ckerschb_> I assume you are sheriff on duty now, right?
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# [06:56] <philor> or in the expanded version, that depends
# [06:56] <ckerschb_> philor: we have a problem with https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=3f4166fb5e37 - can you back it out for me?
# [06:56] <philor> sure
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# [06:56] <philor> just that one, not the whole thing, or the whole push?
# [06:57] <ckerschb_> all the 14 patches for Bug 1087442
# [06:57] <philor> will do
# [06:57] <ckerschb_> thanks
# [06:58] <nigelb> oh fun
# [06:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb7e85f193b8 - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out 15 changesets (bug 1087442)
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# [07:24] <philor> MattN: and yet, asan and winxp say it's not closed
# [07:24] <philor> which says you're doing naughty things involving time rather than events
# [07:26] <philor> oh, busted push and then unbusted push?
# [07:26] <MattN> philor: I'm seeing the same error on all
# [07:26] <philor> MattN: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=fx-team&filter-resultStatus=testfailed&filter-resultStatus=busted&filter-resultStatus=exception&filter-classifiedState=unclassified
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# [07:27] <philor> and for that matter, mostly with "Collapse all revisions" because that makes me even funnier
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# [07:27] <MattN> they're both "Got Loop:ChatWindowShown, expected Loop:ChatWindowClosed" which is what I have already been starring as fixed
# [07:28] <MattN> the problem isn't related to timing AFAICT
# [07:28] <MattN> I made a change and forgot to update the test for the new event
# [07:28] <philor> yep, but if you star them before I see them, then those didn't ever happen, only the ones which are unstarred when I look happened
# [07:29] <MattN> ok, so you thought there was bustage I didn't know about?
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# [07:29] <MattN> I see
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# [08:22] <chunminchang> Does anyone know how to use IPC/IPDL in WebIDL?
# [08:22] <chunminchang> I write my own WebIDL called "Hello" and IPDL called "Greet", and add the line #include "mozilla/dom/GreetChild.h" in Hello.cpp, but get an error at line 237 herehttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/7945579. Any idea?
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# [08:37] <nigelb> Morning Tomcat|sheriffduty
# [08:38] <nigelb> fairly quiet tonight
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# [08:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
# [08:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah let the leaks comming :)
# [08:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: but yeah seems all up and running :)
# [08:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> finally time to take care of some crashtests here :)
# [08:39] <nigelb> :)
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# [09:57] <sarva> Looking for a good first bug to start contributing. Help
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# [09:59] <padenot> sarva: you should join #introduction, and look at http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ !
# [09:59] <padenot> also http://www.whatcanidoformozilla.org/
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# [11:13] <bbouvier> gps|pto: hey, is there a link to your portland talk slides? especially, i'd like to get the name of the extension that creates bookmarks for inbound and such things
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# [11:14] <Unfocused> bbouvier: https://people.mozilla.org/~gszorc/mastering-vcs/
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# [11:15] <bbouvier> Unfocused: thanks
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# [11:16] <Unfocused> bbouvier: and i think you're referring to the firerfoxtree extension
# [11:16] <Unfocused> http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2014/07/16/updates-to-firefoxtree-mercurial-extension/
# [11:16] <bbouvier> \o/
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# [11:54] <bbouvier> is there a way to use MozReview with a persona bugzilla login?
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# [12:00] <Unfocused> bbouvier: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094968#c5 should help though
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# [12:04] <bbouvier> Unfocused: thanks, it worked!
# [12:04] <bbouvier> Unfocused++
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# [13:19] <Jerry_Mac> benjamin: ping.
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# [13:23] <avih> hmm.. why am i not prompted to update Firefox to 34.0.5 ? AFAIK I use the en-US version (though live outside the US)
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# [13:23] <avih> where should I check if I indeed use the en-US version?
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# [13:25] <@smaug> I thought it was not only based on localization
# [13:25] <@smaug> but could be wrong
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# [13:26] <avih> regardless.. it seems others were offered the update, but i'm not. even when checking for updates at the about page
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# [13:27] <Archaeopteryx> avih: which version do you run? furthermore, you can enabled update logging by toggling app.update.log
# [13:27] <Archaeopteryx> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Testing
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# [13:28] <avih> Archaeopteryx: where do i check which version i run? about:buildconfig shows https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/456394191c90
# [13:29] <avih> and i had no issues with updates. i got 34.0 right on time
# [13:29] <Archaeopteryx> Help > Troubleshooting Information >Version. 34.0.5 has https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/8274648ad79f
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# [13:30] <avih> Archaeopteryx: oh, as i said.. 34.0 ...
# [13:30] <avih> Archaeopteryx: do you need more info?
# [13:31] <Archaeopteryx> check the update manifest url dumped into the browser console after toggling the pref
# [13:31] <Archaeopteryx> then we can check if something with the url is wrong or with the response
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# [13:32] <avih> Archaeopteryx: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/7950427
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# [13:33] <avih> Archaeopteryx: it has been updating peacfully since ages, and it updated to 34.0 just fine, but not to 34.05
# [13:33] <Archaeopteryx> and the updates to 34.0.5 have been enabled?
# [13:33] <avih> Archaeopteryx: it seems people are getting them
# [13:34] <avih> but i'm unfamiliar with the official policy
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# [13:36] <Archaeopteryx> that update url shows no available updates here. the last info i heard was that one version is the one for people who got updates and the other one for people who download the installer and that the groups would be merged together later. better ask release management
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# [13:37] <avih> Archaeopteryx: you mean that for now, 34.05 is only for direct download+install but not for updates?
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# [13:39] <Archaeopteryx> [2014-12-01 23:07:38] * mkaply * gavin: What is 34.0.5? Why are the official downloads 34.0.5 but the updates are to 34.0?
# [13:39] <Archaeopteryx> [2014-12-01 23:08:06] * gavin * it's complicated
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# [13:40] <Archaeopteryx> so better ask release management, maybe they serve by geo ip
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# [13:40] <avih> Archaeopteryx: k, thx
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# [13:48] <avih> smaug: were you prompted to update from 34 to 34.0.5?
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# [13:49] <@smaug> I'm using nightlies everywhere
# [13:50] <avih> hmm.. i always have at least one release installed to see what the users see
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# [13:50] <avih> (and it's actually the main install on one of my computers)
# [13:50] <@smaug> oh, I do have aurora/beta/release installed for testing
# [13:51] <avih> smaug: so could you please check if release offers you update to 34.05?
# [13:51] <@smaug> avih: 34.0, and it says 'Firefox is up to date'
# [13:52] <avih> hmm
# [13:52] <avih> thx
# [13:52] <avih> gonna try to connect now via a us proxy. let's see if it's any different
# [13:53] <@smaug> I thought 05 just has yahoo as default search
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# [13:53] <@smaug> or does it have some other changes too?
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# [13:55] <avih> smaug: well, US proxy didn't change. doesn't offer 34.05. and yeah, afaik it's only changing the default search, but i was wondering why isn't the update offered, not that i actually need it :)
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# [14:19] <RealRaven> sorry for x-posting - does anybody know which one here is the official developer build: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
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# [14:24] <RealRaven> ah well, I will go with the release instead then - ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/34.0.5/win32/
# [14:24] <edmorley> RealRaven: do you mean the developer edition?
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# [14:36] <avih> smacleod: Archaeopteryx: fwiw, catlee just mentioned on #releng that users will not get updated to 34.0.5 because it's minor change for first time users, and then both 34.0 and 34.0.5 will get updated to 35.
# [14:36] <Archaeopteryx> thank you for the info
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# [14:39] <RealRaven> edmorley: yes. ftp didn'[t help me anyway as it can't be added to "trusted sites" so I added that "https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net" which allowed me to use the normal download link
# [14:40] <edmorley> ah cool
# [14:40] <RealRaven> we have these "Locked down" development servers at work and I am currently closing down all http access to our IIS sites
# [14:40] <RealRaven> security is a PITA
# [14:40] <edmorley> RealRaven: I imagine it's still referred to my the repository name on ftp, which is mozilla-aurora
# [14:40] <edmorley> s/my/by/
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# [14:40] <RealRaven> I think it does
# [14:41] <RealRaven> Do you know whether there any extra security concerns on the tools in the dev edition?
# [14:41] <RealRaven> They have removed Fx from those servers but I will ask for exemption. TO only have IE on them is ridiculous - they are dev servers after all
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# [14:42] <edmorley> RealRaven: I don't know the answer to that sorry, you'd need to speak to the devtools people
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# [14:42] <edmorley> RealRaven: re not being able to use ftp, there's also https versions of those URLs, eg https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-aurora/
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# [14:43] <RealRaven> edmorley: cool, going to bookmark that for future reference
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# [14:44] <edmorley> RealRaven: I believe the CDN would be preferred for mass usage, but I imagine what we're talking about is fairly low demand, right?
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# [14:45] <RealRaven> what is CDN?
# [14:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> content delivery network
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# [14:47] <RealRaven> edmorley: yes, whatever I am doing just affects some of our test servers. Their browser settings (IE) are locked down so it is hard to download anything to them.
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# [14:51] <edmorley> RealRaven: by CDN I meant the https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net URLs; but sounds like you can use either fine
# [14:51] <dkk> hi, can someone tell me how use “oncommand” instead of onclick?
# [14:52] <RealRaven> edmorley: yes, after adding to "trusted sites"
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# [14:53] <edmorley> RealRaven: I meant more in terms of "are thousands of clients going to be downloading it", the answer seemed to be no, so you can use the "https://ftp...." URL if you want, instead of _having_ to use the "...cdn.mozilla.net" one
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# [14:55] <RealRaven> edmorley: sure, that's what I am going to do in the future; bookmarkedit
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# [14:55] <no_gravity> Hello! Firefox started giving me a strange "this plugin is vulnerable" message on youtube today and then sends me to a page that says the plugin is up to date. Is it a bug?
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# [14:55] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ^
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# [14:57] <gfritzsche> no_gravity: that is being looked into already - you should update, that page can be wrong about you being up to date
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# [14:57] <gfritzsche> #plugincheck would be the channel for this
# [14:57] <no_gravity> gfritzsche: ok, let me try to update...
# [14:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah might be the flash case
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# [14:58] <no_gravity> jesup: ok, lets see...
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# [14:58] <jesup> And, as always, I'd uncheck "free McAfee"..... :-/
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# [14:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/e7a80526c843 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1101415 - Disable test_animation2.html until it can be fixed. a=test-only
# [14:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/1f5f3cd4e3d6 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 1104008 - Make sure the D3D11 swapchain's textures are cleared before resizing. r=Bas, a=sledru
# [14:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/993c07956f3d - James Long - Bug 1107541 - Display eval sources with a sourceURL pragma correctly in the debugger. r=fitzgen, a=sledru
# [14:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23d4cdffea54 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 9877aca65ef5 (bug 1038620) for causing Test Bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [15:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ted: ping
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# [15:08] <froydnj> oh whew, that red on my push isn't me
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# [15:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah backed out the patch that caused it i guess :)
# [15:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> not yours! ;)
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# [15:12] <evilpie> interesting plugin check doesn't load at all for me
# [15:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> evilpie: wfm
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# [15:13] <evilpie> just spinning "Checking with Mozilla on the status of your plugins"
# [15:13] <evilpie> same in chrome
# [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh yeah
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# [15:15] <gfritzsche> :-/
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# [15:15] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: is espressive the only contact on it right now?
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# [15:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> its a kind of unowned area
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# [15:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: found the problem will inform #moc
# [15:16] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: cheers then :)
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# [15:16] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i guess we need to have a discussion on ownership then
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# [15:17] <gfritzsche> espressive touched it though?
# [15:17] <gfritzsche> not sure who else
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# [15:18] <evilpie> where is the code for this?
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# [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> evilpie: gfritzsche seems its a IT problem, #moc is working on it
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# [15:19] <evilpie> this more of a general question, I found the component plugins.mozillla.org but they never link any commits
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# [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> evilpie: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Websites/Plugincheck
# [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> has some links to code i guess
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# [15:22] <evilpie> so why hasn't the plugin dir been updated in months?
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# [15:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: hey did we change something in terms where plugins/check interact with the user
# [15:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> like that one user was saying he got in on youtube
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# [15:25] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hm, we ripped out PFS? maybe you mean that?
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# [15:25] <gfritzsche> but i think we've shown the vulnerable blocks for a while
# [15:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok
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# [15:25] <gfritzsche> we may just be more agressive with flash now
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# [15:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3013df2c6d4 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 1004388 part 1. When we're testing an MPhi that doesn't represent the and-or pattern, just fall back to optimizing the typeset for the true/false branches based on the truthiness directly, like we would for the non-MPhi case. r=jandem
# [15:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/811161917000 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 1004388 part 2 - Call improveTypesAtTest in more cases. r=bhackett
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# [15:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/63205db3303e - Romain Gauthier - Bug 1106991 - Added missing icon for Hello's "tour". r=nperriault
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# [15:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: do you know if plugins.mozilla.org is handling also the blocklists pings ?
# [15:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess no
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# [15:53] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: no, that goes with the normal addon blocklist
# [15:54] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/$foo
# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok :) IT is trying to find out what melted plugincheck
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# [16:01] <@gavin> avih: we're not updating 34.0 users to 34.0.5
# [16:02] <@gavin> we will merge the two branches when 35 ships
# [16:02] <avih> gavin: k thx.
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# [16:02] <@gavin> (relatively few people are on 34.0 anyways)
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# [16:03] <avih> gavin: how so? isn't everyone who was on 33.x got updated to 34?
# [16:03] <@gavin> no
# [16:03] <avih> ?
# [16:03] <avih> so people are still on 33?
# [16:03] <@gavin> updates to 34 were throttled more aggressively
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# [16:04] <avih> what does that mean then? that most are still on 33?
# [16:04] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [16:04] <@gavin> by this point most are on 34.0.5 because we've had 100% updates from 33->34.0.5 on the wire for a while
# [16:05] <avih> hmm.. so how come all my systems which were on 33 got updated to 34 after dec 1st?
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# [16:05] <@gavin> you got lucky, or you checked for updates manually (which isn't affected by throttling)
# [16:05] <avih> oh.
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# [16:05] <avih> this is a bit weird...
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# [16:06] <avih> so the normal course of action would have been 33.1 to 34.0.5 by now, but those who got "lucky" or manually checked for updates when 34.0 was available, will skip 34.05?
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# [16:07] <@gavin> yes
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# [16:08] <avih> weird, but at least it explains it. thx
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# [16:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e9daf256c68 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 1110570: AVX instructions should be emitted only if XSAVE is enabled by the OS; r=sunfish
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# [16:40] <@bsmedberg> vlad: I heard you were involved with fixing tree-style-tab for austalis. If that's true, do you know where bug reports for the addon should go?
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# [16:40] <vlad> hmm, not tree-style-tab
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# [16:41] <vlad> I was involved in fixing the 'vertical tabs' addon
# [16:41] <@bsmedberg> oh ok
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# [16:41] <vlad> but it's been forked a number of times and I've given up actually using it :/
# [16:41] <@bsmedberg> I like tree-style-tabs except for a horrible bug when the tab bar gets full... ;-)
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# [16:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=bbcf9c812bb5 - 15 changesets
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# [17:04] <WG9s> I was looking for someone familiar with the mercurial project. I upgraded from fedora 20 (which has Mercurial 2.8) to fedora 21 which has version 3.0. An hg pull operation form a mozilla-central bundle now takes 25 minutes longer. I am trying to find out if this is a known issue.
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# [17:07] <@smaug> looks like gps is away atm
# [17:07] <@smaug> but he would be the right person to ask, I think
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# [17:09] <WG9s> OK. I filed a fedora bug on this but it looks like probably not fedora specific, so they will probably report it upstream.
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# [17:10] <WG9s> since the latest mozilla-build seems to be using version 3.0.2, I guess i should do some testing under windows.
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# [17:11] <WG9s> addly the dleay is after it reports how many files were changed and before the reminder to run hg update. I would not really expect any real processing to be occuring during that period.
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# [17:12] <@smaug> WG9s: how is F21 otherwise. I haven't updated yet, and haven't searched for possible issues
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# [17:16] <WG9s> smaug: Seems to work fine otherwise. THe update went smoothly. there is a display update screensaver issue in the upgrade process so the what it's doing messages start displaying garbled but hitting the shift key fixes that. It usses a different firewall and does not do that good a job of migrating the configuration, so if you tweked the firewall rules you might have to redo that.
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# [17:17] <philor> jorendorff: looks like you crash on startup, "Error while running startup cache precompilation"
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# [17:18] <jorendorff> on it, probably trivial
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# [17:20] <jorendorff> this stack is cursed. it ran clean on try server except for a merge mistake which i fixed
# [17:20] <jorendorff> that was yesterday, and then the tree was closed
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# [17:21] <jorendorff> there's really not much in the log to indicate what went wrong. building locally.
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# [17:22] <vlad> does a build error in unified bindings code in SdpAttribute.h sound familiar to anyone?
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# [17:23] <@smaug> WG9s: thanks, doesn't sounds too bad. (Fedora updates used to be super painful but I think since F18 they've been quite ok)
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# [17:27] <ahal> yeah, the update tool was aptly named (fedup)
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# [17:28] <ahal> or should that be yumly named?
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# [17:29] <WG9s> smaug: so they have this new product idea where you either install as a workstation, which gets you gnome a server or acloud system which installs something akin to a chromebook. so you have to tell fedup which thing to change your isntall to and installs whatever is missng for that choice in addition to what you have. if you just want to update whan you have, you just specify --product=nonprodu
# [17:29] <WG9s> ct.
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# [17:30] <froydnj> ahal: *apt*-ly named? very nice
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# [17:35] <jorendorff> philor: better back it out; it works fine locally.
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# [17:35] <jorendorff> philor: unless you have any better ideas
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# [17:36] <froydnj> philor considers other ideas than backing things out?
# [17:36] <jimm> vlad: bug 1109130
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# [17:42] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/4e172e36-e858-4e41-bee0-badb72141212
# [17:42] <nemo> so. just curious
# [17:42] <nemo> why does the bug say "Resolved fixed" even though it was reopened
# [17:42] <nemo> the two systems take a while to sync up?
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# [17:44] <philor> yeah, the idea I'm considering is "go to work"
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# [17:45] <philor> if there isn't anyone else around who can do a backout and reopen the tree, then closed is the right state for it
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# [17:45] <froydnj> I will back things out, unless jorendorff wants to
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# [17:48] <jorendorff> i can back it out
# [17:48] <@ehsan> jorendorff: I'm landing something
# [17:48] <@ehsan> jorendorff: I can do it for you
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# [17:49] <jorendorff> ehsan: please
# [17:49] * froydnj was almost done with the backout
# [17:49] <jorendorff> race
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# [17:49] <froydnj> too many nice people around
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# [17:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc019512abab - Nathan Froyd - Backout bbcf9c812bb5:388e4a23e7fb (bug 1090636), for bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [17:51] <@ehsan> done
# [17:51] <@ehsan> froydnj: trying to learn how to be a Canadian :)
# [17:51] <froydnj> ehsan: :)
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# [17:52] <nicoo> ahal: Well played (for the apt pun)
# [17:52] <@ehsan> froydnj: actually it seems like you did the backout in the end!
# [17:53] <@ehsan> froydnj: so, it would be nice to re-enabled the currently disabled XPCOM C++ tests, hey?
# [17:53] <froydnj> ehsan: yes! thanks for volunteering! :D
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# [17:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2954a37bc2df - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1101337 - Make the ReplaceSubstring() XPCOM string API linear; r=froydnj
# [17:54] <@ehsan> froydnj: well hold your horses :)
# [17:54] <@ehsan> froydnj: can you first tell me what's wrong?
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# [17:54] <@ehsan> BenWa: you mentioned we should port these to gtest?
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# [17:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36d7afaaca18 - Patrick McManus - bug 865314 - backout 61ee2e053920 due to crashes 1089638 r=backout
# [17:55] <froydnj> ehsan: I haven't looked but I suspect the problem is that the tests use not-exported-from-xul symbols
# [17:55] <@ehsan> ah, darn
# [17:55] <@ehsan> yeah that sounds like something gtest is supposed to fix
# [17:55] <jcranmer> froydnj: exactly the problem
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# [17:56] <@ehsan> is this up to date? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/GTest
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# [17:57] <@ehsan> hmm, MOZ_RUN_GTEST=1 /Users/ehsan/moz/src/obj-ff-dbg.noindex/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox for me says "Cannot load XPCOM"
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# [17:58] <@ehsan> ah, ./mach gtest
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# [17:58] <froydnj> I don't know what the GTEST_CPP_SOURCES on that page is for, but the rest of the information looks ok-ish
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# [17:59] <BenWa> ehsan: the tests? yes
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# [17:59] <@ehsan> froydnj: can I put this sucker in glue/tests/gtest?
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# [18:00] <BenWa> froydnj: GTEST_CPP_SOURCES is old
# [18:00] <BenWa> let me update that
# [18:00] <@ehsan> BenWa: I'm trying to see if I can port this string test to gtest
# [18:00] <froydnj> ehsan: bkelly is adding xpcom/tests/gtest as part of bug 1098004, so there or glue, I suppose
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# [18:01] <@ehsan> that hasn't landed yet! glue it is :)
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# [18:01] <BenWa> ehsan: It looked like it would be easy. Remove the main, replace the individual test functions with the gtest TEST(…) { } function and use EXPECT_TRUE
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# [18:01] <@ehsan> BenWa: ok, are you around for help if I need it?
# [18:01] <BenWa> ehsan: gtest isn’t supported for libraries that don’t link to xul
# [18:02] <BenWa> ehsan: lunch in a bit but after yes
# [18:02] <BenWa> ehsan: I’d suggest avoiding glue however which will probably leak to linking failures
# [18:02] <@ehsan> BenWa: hrm, there are already gtests there...
# [18:02] <BenWa> ehsan: ohh, then you’re probably ok
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# [18:03] <BenWa> ehsan: A good hint is if FINAL_LIBRARY = xul-gtest
# [18:03] <@ehsan> yep it's there
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# [18:29] <WG9s_> smaug: i should have mentioned, for the mercurial issue, I jiust downloaded teh rpm form the fedora20 repo and did a yum downgrade specifying that file. Not really rocket science.
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# [18:38] <@smaug> WG9s: still odd that 3.x is so much slower
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# [18:39] <@smaug> I thought gps|pto mentioned in some blog post that 3.x should be better
# [18:40] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: inbound bustage
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# [18:40] <RyanVM|sickkid> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4589711&repo=mozilla-inbound
# [18:40] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: fixing
# [18:40] <RyanVM|sickkid> k
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# [18:41] <@smaug> gfx folks will be so terrified with my code
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# [18:42] <nemo> bz: have a moment to look at a weird layout issue that so far seems to only impact firefox on *one* machine I've found so far, so I have no idea if you'll actually see it? ☹
# [18:43] <nemo> and... only firefox
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# [18:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: done, sorry
# [18:46] <RyanVM|sickkid> np
# [18:46] <WG9s> smaug: the windows version on hte current mozilla-build package is also slower. not sure how no one noticed this. perahsp not an issue if you clone and then pull? i download the bundles and the pull to tip becuase in the past that was much faster than cloning.
# [18:46] <@ehsan> froydnj: fyi: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffef93ec94aa
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# [18:47] <froydnj> ehsan: wfm, I suppose (I'd have probably kept it local to the file, but whatever)
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# [18:47] <@ehsan> froydnj: you can't do that, given the file is included twice :(
# [18:47] <froydnj> ehsan: thanks for making a separate type
# [18:48] <froydnj> ehsan: argh, the almost-but-not-quite-templates string approach bites again
# [18:48] <@ehsan> yeah
# [18:48] <@ehsan> ted: ping
# [18:48] <WG9s> smaug:what is even odder is the dealy is between the sats message when it is done just saying what it did and the reminder to run hg update. kind of seems like is waiting for some interlock to clear and then eventaully descides to stop waiting.
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# [18:54] <botond_> khuey: ping
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# [18:54] <bbouvier> how can i commit --amend a changeset that has childrens? create a temp commit and then fold it with histedit seems to have deleted the child commit
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# [18:55] <botond> bbouvier: you can do it with the 'evolve' extension
# [18:55] <botond> bbouvier: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/EvolveExtension
# [18:55] <@gavin> wouldn't the normal answer to be to commit instead of commit --amend, and then rebase the children?
# [18:55] <bbouvier> botond: haaaa, evolve isn't compatible with my hg
# [18:55] <tromey> yeah, I also had to upgrade hg to get evolve
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# [18:56] <jcranmer> hg evolve is fun
# [18:56] <@gavin> you should always be updating hg!
# [18:56] <bbouvier> tromey: do you know what's the minimal needed version?
# [18:56] <botond> bbouvier: "create a temp commit and then fold it with histedit" should also work
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# [18:56] <jcranmer> my local ids go {0, 1, 5, 6, 7, 57, 58, 68, 78, 81, 83, 86, 88, 90, 92} thanks to evolution
# [18:57] <botond> jcranmer: is there something wrong with that?
# [18:57] <bbouvier> botond: actually, it seems it erased the children commit :/
# [18:57] <tromey> bbouvier: I installed 3.2.2 and that was fine; evolve complained about 3.1 I think
# [18:57] <botond> bbouvier: was the temp commit a child of the child commit?
# [18:57] <bbouvier> tromey: ha, that's the version i have and which is installed by default on the latest ubuntu :/
# [18:57] <tromey> now of course I just need to wean myself off git and onto hg
# [18:57] <tromey> huh
# [18:57] <botond> bbouvier: evolve works fine with 3.1 for me
# [18:57] <bbouvier> botond: no, they were on separate heads
# [18:57] <jcranmer> tromey: I have 3.1.2 and it works for me
# [18:58] <tromey> jcranmer: I got some warning from the evolve extension about tag-pushing behavior or something like that
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# [18:58] <bbouvier> botond: parent is A, it had a children B; i hg update to A, then modified something, committed (C), then hg histedit to fold C into A, but then B disappeared
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# [18:58] <botond> bbouvier: in fact, evolve has worked fine for me since at least 2.7
# [18:59] <botond> bbouvier: i'm surprised it even let you 'histedit' like that
# [18:59] <bbouvier> botond: don't you get an warning message anytime you're running hg? like "using a degraded version of evolve"
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# [18:59] <botond> bbouvier: what i would've done (without evolve) is: 1) rebase C on top of B. 2) at C, histedit down to A. 3) in the histedit, reorder C so it's after A, and fold it
# [18:59] <botond> bbouvier: nope
# [19:00] <WG9s> smaug:I guess i need to test this doing a clone and a pull. I am using a script i wrote myself to simulate a clone to a specific rev using bundles. But that script has always worked fine with version 2.
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# [19:01] <bbouvier> botond: what do you mean by 2) histedit down to A?
# [19:01] <botond> bbouvier: like 'histedit <A>' where <A> is the sha or revision number of A
# [19:01] <@smaug> WG9s: I guess slowness in initial clone wouldn't matter much for me
# [19:02] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: next on the bustage train - https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4590406&repo=mozilla-inbound
# [19:02] <froydnj> o/~ stop this train, I wanna get off o/~
# [19:02] <botond> dhylands: ping
# [19:02] <WG9s> although lookin at it all it does is get the latest bundle if there is not already a bundle there then does an hg init and a hg pull -r
# [19:02] <@khuey> botond: pong
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# [19:02] <WG9s> should be the same a a clone to specific revision
# [19:03] <dhylands> botond: pong
# [19:03] <botond> khuey: do you understand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1073081#c52 ?
# [19:03] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: backing out
# [19:03] <WG9s> of course after that it also does an hg update -r but that is after the point where the issue occurs.
# [19:03] <@khuey> botond: I understand it, but it's not a good reason :P
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# [19:04] <botond> dhylands: hey :) i was wondering if you could review the Part 19 patch of bug 1073081? it's a very small change
# [19:04] <@ted> ehsan: pong
# [19:04] <@khuey> botond: asserting (non-fatally) to ward off an imminent null deref is kind of silly
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# [19:04] <WG9s> so basically i have downloaded the bundle from last weekend, done an rm -rf on the target directory done an hg init annd an hg unbundle then do an hg pull -r specifying the revision that corresonds to todays nightl.
# [19:05] <botond> khuey: can you help me understand why it's possible for the pointer to be null when the compiler says it's impossible?
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# [19:05] <WG9s> this si part of a script i use for automated builds that do nightly builds with some extra MathML patches.
# [19:05] <dhylands> botond: sure - it was on my list to look at today (I've been off for a week and a half and I'm just catching up...)
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# [19:06] <botond> dhylands: wonderful, thanks :)
# [19:06] <@khuey> botond: hmm, did we change the linking?
# [19:06] <bbouvier> botond: but C depended on things added in B, so I couldn't have rebased it on top of B, right?
# [19:06] <@khuey> botond: at one point those were weak symbols
# [19:07] <@khuey> really that should never happen ... if they're null b2g is totally fucked up
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# [19:07] <botond> bbouvier: how can C depend on things added in B, when you updated to A to write C?
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# [19:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/053c145b8eae - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [19:08] <@ehsan> ted: so I have a patch that turns on the setTimeout protection only for mochitest-plain for now, and tags all existing bad usages
# [19:08] <@ehsan> ted: can I land that first?
# [19:09] <@ted> ehsan: go for it
# [19:09] <@ehsan> ted: thanks
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# [19:10] <bbouvier> botond: oops you're right, was confused with the names. Thanks for your hints, i'll try this next time
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# [19:11] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: i should probably get on that, eh?
# [19:11] <RyanVM|sickkid> :)
# [19:11] <WG9s> smaug: yes i purposely start from a new tree an reapply the patches becuase doing it the other way sometimes hides potential bit-rot in the patch.
# [19:12] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: done
# [19:12] <botond> khuey: so it looks like whether or not they are weak depends on whether MOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM is defined: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/Types.h#92
# [19:12] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: thanks :)
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# [19:12] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: sorry, bit sidetrack-prone today
# [19:12] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: so if the patch I am landing now breaks something, please ping me and I'll fix it :)
# [19:12] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: (sorry to hear about your kid)
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# [19:13] <@khuey> botond: even if they are weak, if we end up without those symbols something went horribly wrong
# [19:13] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: will do, and thanks
# [19:13] <WG9s> Anyway I hve reverted to version 2.8 under linux (which also impacts my android builds) and 2.9.1 under windows, so all the builds should show up earlier tomorrow.
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# [19:14] <botond> khuey: would it make sense to likewise condition the checks on MOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM?
# [19:15] <tuhin> did anyone make that web app for "Teach an Hour of Code with Webmaker!" ?
# [19:16] <WG9s> smaug: i wonder if this is really an issue with taking a bundle created using version 2 and unbulding it using version 3.
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# [19:18] <WG9s> OF course that would make a lot more sense if it occured at teh unbundle step rather than on a subsequent pull
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# [19:20] <@smaug> WG9s: I've never used the bundle
# [19:20] <@ehsan> ted: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa8bd3194aca, fwiw, pretty small patch ;)
# [19:20] <WG9s> Hmm unless doing the unbundle under version 3 reformats stuff to be a version 3 repository thus making a subsequent pull form the version 2 source take longer.
# [19:20] <@ehsan> ted: I hope this part is ok: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa8bd3194aca#l573.16
# [19:21] <WG9s> well i had complained before about how slow the clone process was and expalined why i was doing it daily and was pointed towards bundles.
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# [19:22] <WG9s> somehow merging the current tip in to my repository does not show up the same merge conflicts as re-applying the patches to the current tip does.
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# [19:22] <@ted> WG9s: because merging is a 3-way merge
# [19:22] <@ted> and applying patches is not
# [19:23] <@ted> ehsan: there's probably not a better way to do it unless you want to do that test in python
# [19:23] <@ted> so whatever
# [19:23] <@ehsan> ted: anything to avoid python! :)
# [19:23] <@ted> hah
# [19:23] <WG9s> ted: so part of the point of my builds is to identiy patches that need work so that whn they get marked check-in needed they will actually apply cleanly.
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# [19:25] <@smaug> kats: do we have still plans to fix coordinate handling so that it is always clear from the variable type which coordinate space it is about?
# [19:25] <kats> smaug: yeah
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# [19:25] <WG9s> If my build fails because the patch does not apply with an hg import i generally fix that and update the patch on the bug.
# [19:26] <@khuey> botond: probably, yes
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# [19:26] <@khuey> although since we're going to crash immediately after the assertions, I'm not sure that the assertions are necessary
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# [19:26] <botond> khuey: are you willing to say that in the bug and r+ my patch? :p
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# [19:27] <@ted> WG9s: if that's what you want to test then you should probably just qimport those patches into mq
# [19:27] <@ted> and for updates do hg qpop -a; hg pull -u; hg qpush -a
# [19:28] <WG9s> ted: i will try that but still ithink the issue that hg pull takes forever and a day is an issue i guess i will ahve to do a clone and then a pull to see if it is somehow related to unbundle.
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# [19:29] <WG9s> ted:but then the fact that i am doing this a strange way that no one expected is probably why no one else found this issue.
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# [19:30] <WG9s> thus answering my "How come no one else notice this?" question!
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# [19:33] <WG9s> ted: basicallhy this was all a hack to take the way i did this before mercurail and ust make it work following the same process. only change was switching to go from path to hg import to get binary files, renames moves and copies to work better.
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# [19:35] <@khuey> botond: yeah
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# [19:35] <@khuey> botond: link me again?
# [19:35] <botond> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1073081
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# [19:36] <@khuey> botond: is MOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM set on b2g?
# [19:36] <botond> khuey: not in my local b2g build
# [19:36] <@khuey> ok
# [19:36] <botond> khuey: given that gcc only gives the warning if the symbol is not weak
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# [19:39] <botond> khuey: thanks!
# [19:39] <botond> khuey: (for the record, i'm a counterexample to "nobody pays attention to [non-fatal debug assertions] on b2g". but i agree with you overall :))
# [19:41] <botond> khuey: (or wait. i didn't appreciate the 'non-fatal' part. never mind :))
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# [19:43] <@khuey> botond: yeah
# [19:43] <@khuey> I noticed the fatal ones ;)
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# [19:47] <WG9s> ted, smaug: so , whether waht I am doing is stupid or not. I just went back to a clone form 2 mozilla central bulds ago and then will do a pull to tip. If that shows this issue, it is a bug palin and simple.
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# [19:47] <WG9s> fi version 2 can update to tip in 9 seconds no reason versin 3 taks orders of magnitude longer.
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# [20:15] <kats-meeting> smaug: not sure if this is what you're looking for but i wrote something like into PositionedEventTargeting.cpp
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# [20:25] <WG9s> ted: so trying doing the clone it seems it is converting something from version 2 to version 3 doing the clone. I guess it fails to do that on the unbundle (which is probably really the bug here) so it does not end up happening until the first pull.
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# [20:25] <WG9s> but then if we are going to provide version 3 hg with mozilla-build, then we should be rpoviding version 3 bundles in addtion to the version 2 bundles.
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# [20:27] <@ted> WG9s: this is way out of my area of interest at this point, sorry
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# [20:28] <WG9s> OK but kind of means i need to completey rewrite the bug i submitted on this becuase i think the fact that pull is slow is really the unbudle should ahve done this work. for my case if i really want to do this thsi way my weekly jobe that gets a bundle shoudl be really cloning and crating my own bundle.
# [20:29] <WG9s> but then i also think if mozilla crates bundles and has a mozilla build for windows the bundles and the mercurail version provided should be compatable.
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# [20:30] <WG9s> I guess this will continue to be an issue until everyone is up to version 3.
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# [20:31] <WG9s> I could probably create a mozilla-central bundle for version 3 and post it back but that does not help anything for other branches. so i guess the issue is who si really using the bundles and how are they doing it and is this an issue people other than me are actually encountering.
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# [20:38] <bkelly> is it normal for Mulet Reftests to be perma red?
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# [20:41] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: yes
# [20:41] <RyanVM|sickkid> I assume you're looking at TBPL
# [20:41] <bkelly> thanks
# [20:41] <bkelly> yea
# [20:41] <RyanVM|sickkid> (they're hidden on treeherder)
# [20:41] <bkelly> ah
# [20:41] <bkelly> I'm not cool enough to use treeherder yet
# [20:41] <RyanVM|sickkid> we're pretty crappy about hiding things on TBPL these days
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# [20:42] <RyanVM|sickkid> since it's not our primary dashboard anymore
# [20:42] <bkelly> k
# [20:42] <WG9s> so that was definely the case if you are not using bundels it is only a clone operation that has this extra 25 minutes added on.
# [20:42] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: is it totally insane to look at TBPL these days?
# [20:42] <bkelly> RyanVM|sickkid: they show on treeherder as well: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=3dd487f0bcf6
# [20:43] <WG9s> if you use bundels it is the first pull after an unbundle and i have no clue what ahppes on a push.
# [20:43] <bkelly> or did briefly...
# [20:43] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: I wouldn't call it insane (it still works fine), but be suspicious of anything odd-looking :)
# [20:43] <bkelly> I guess its a client-side hide
# [20:43] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: yeah, not for long thankfully :)
# [20:43] <RyanVM|sickkid> that bug's actually really close to being fixed
# [20:43] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sickkid: suspicious == insane :D
# [20:44] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: at this point, I'm only using TBPL as a fallback for when TH is having issues
# [20:44] <@ehsan> makes sense
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# [20:44] <RyanVM|sickkid> yeah, ^ makes it hard going back :P
# [20:44] <bkelly> I have to admit I was hoping treeherder would be more mobile friendly than tbpl... but I have better luck with tbpl on my flame
# [20:44] <tbsaunde> hrm, maybe its time I try th again then
# [20:45] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: yeah, no disagreement there - there's been talk about having a more mobile-optimized version of the site, but it's pretty low on the priority list right now
# [20:45] <RyanVM|sickkid> tbsaunde: please do!
# [20:45] <bkelly> RyanVM|sickkid: understood... mobile bugzilla would be nice too! :-)
# [20:45] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: limited resources, bigger fish to fry, etc
# [20:46] * bkelly doesn't eat seafood.
# [20:46] * RyanVM|sickkid wonders if we could scrounge up a GSoC project out of that
# [20:46] <RyanVM|sickkid> jgriffin ^
# [20:46] <jgriffin> mobile bugzilla? that's a great idea
# [20:46] <@ehsan> guys, soon mobile devices will be as big as our laptop screens ;)
# [20:46] <RyanVM|sickkid> I was thinking TH, but :P
# [20:46] <@ehsan> just want for nexus 11
# [20:47] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: my phone already has the same res as my laptop
# [20:47] <jgriffin> yeah we do want that for TH
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# [20:47] <bkelly> jgriffin: RyanVM|sickkid: both would be nice... wish they were just responsive instead of a separate site, etc
# [20:47] <RyanVM|sickkid> ehsan: I wish I could force Fennec to display it as such
# [20:47] <RyanVM|sickkid> jgriffin: seems like it'd be a pretty well-defined project if we wanted to go that route?
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# [20:49] <RyanVM|sickkid> I have to say, I like the idea of getting Google to pay someone to do it :P
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# [20:49] <jgriffin> heh
# [20:49] <kats> RyanVM|sickkid: you may be interested in the patch on bug 1106905
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# [20:50] <kats> RyanVM|sickkid: there is, you can go into the settings and turn the text size settings down to the smallest setting
# [20:50] <kats> RyanVM|sickkid: it's not obvious but it works
# [20:51] <RyanVM|sickkid> ok, good to know
# [20:51] <RyanVM|sickkid> but yeah, I think I'd be willign to take my chances with TH w/ the regular desktop layout in landscape mode @ 19x10 on a 5" HTC M8 screen
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# [20:52] <froydnj> the mobile TH interface should just be a big red box
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# [20:54] <WG9s> ted: I understand. It is in my area of interest because I found it. it looks like it needs fixing and others will run into it eventually. I only asked here because I thought perhaps someone had run into it sooner and said, oh yeah you need this patch.
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# [21:02] <WG9s> ted: I know you said you did not care, but who is responsible for mozilla-build these days.
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# [21:02] <WG9s> we need to get mercurial veraion 3.2 out there to avoid this issue.
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# [21:04] <@ted> WG9s: RyanVM has taken over maintenence
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# [21:04] <WG9s> OK I will get with him
# [21:04] <RyanVM|sickkid> WG9s: bug 1090443
# [21:04] <RyanVM|sickkid> maybe you can tell them to get the 3.2.2 MSI built faster
# [21:04] <RyanVM|sickkid> it's all I'm waiting on
# [21:04] <WG9s> i am not sure what the deal here is is it version 2/3 server client incompatility or is it jsut broken.
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# [21:15] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: you back to breaking B2G debug again? :D https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4596235&repo=mozilla-inbound
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# [21:17] <bkelly> RyanVM|sickkid: thats a known intermittent with fetch isn't it? also, nothing is using the two new classes I added yet, so I don't think it can be related
# [21:18] <bkelly> did fetch patches land today?
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# [21:20] <WG9s> RyanVM|sickkid: I see we already had a bug on this.
# [21:20] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: Promise.cpp hasn't been touched in a couple weeks, if that matters
# [21:20] <WG9s> my maind point was either go to a newer non affected version or back to 2.9.1
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# [21:21] <WG9s> if we are not sure the newer versions might just not cause more new issues.
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# [21:21] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: I don't see anything obviously-related landing recently
# [21:21] <RyanVM|sickkid> bkelly: oh well, maybe just a coincidence
# [21:21] <bkelly> RyanVM|sickkid: I think this is an nsm|away question... he's in India timezone, though
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# [21:22] <WG9s> RyanVM|sickkid: I knew someone here must have already run into this.
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# [21:34] <RealRaven> I seem to have increasing problems with Window load events. have they become unreliable?
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# [21:35] <RyanVM|sickkid> WG9s: seriously, get them to update their MSI release and I'll be all over it
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# [21:35] <RealRaven> I seem to have increasing problems with Window load events. have they become unreliable?
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# [21:42] <WG9s> RyanVM|sickkid: when i ran into this on Movember 15th, I onley reported it on pre-release fedora code. i did not realize it was an issue on windows bcause my sindows build time seem to vary enough so it was not until this week that i decided there is a windows issue also.
# [21:42] <RyanVM|sickkid> jorendorff: this yours? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/spidermonkey/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux-debug/mozilla-inbound_linux-debug_spidermonkey-arm-sim-bm70-build1-build219.txt.gz
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# [21:43] <jimm> RealRaven: might have something to do with e10s? file a bug maybe?
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# [21:56] <RyanVM|sickkid> KWierso: SM(arm) is jorendorff methinks
# [21:56] <RyanVM|sickkid> or not
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# [21:58] <jorendorff> RyanVM|sickkid: I don't *think* that can be me
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# [21:58] <jorendorff> RyanVM|sickkid: the warning in StaticStrings::isStatic, I mean
# [21:58] <jesup> glandium: gps|pto: ping
# [21:59] <jesup> !seen glandium
# [21:59] <firebot> glandium was last seen 16 hours, 11 minutes and 58 seconds ago,
# [21:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93ede5de8bd3 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 0064d8949f0c (bug 1102541) for build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [21:59] <jesup> a little early there still
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# [22:00] * jesup wonders who else he can ask about moz.build/gyp stuff
# [22:02] <glandium> jesup: firebot isn't in #build so it doesn't know that i was talking there
# [22:02] <jesup> firebot is a slacker...
# [22:02] <glandium> jesup: i'm still adjusting to japanese time, so i'm up early
# [22:02] <firebot> jesup: Sorry, I've no idea what 'is a slacker' might be.
# [22:02] <glandium> firebot: QED
# [22:03] <firebot> glandium: QED is quod erat demonstrandum (which was to be demonstrated)
# [22:03] <Ms2ger> Ha
# [22:04] <efaust> perfect.
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# [22:04] <jesup> glandium: so I'm importing the webrtc.org branch 40 drop (used in Chrome 40). So far going ok, but I hit a new file type (foo.h.pump, processed by trunk/testing/gtest/scripts/pump.py to generate .h files). The .h's are in there, but I get "/home/jesup/src/mozilla/inbound/media/webrtc/trunk/webrtc/base/bind.h.pump has an unknown file type."
# [22:05] <jesup> As a temporary move I'm commenting out the .pump's, but I was wondering the right way to resolve this
# [22:05] <jesup> "// To generate bind.h from bind.h.pump, execute: /home/build/google3/third_party/gtest/scripts/pump.py bind.h.pump"
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# [22:05] <glandium> jesup: need to add all the machinery to handle that
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# [22:06] <jesup> or should we just carry the patch that removes them, and in the unlikely case we need to change them, re-run by hand and commit
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# [22:06] * jesup is tempted by that. ANd there are only 3 I've hit so far...
# [22:06] <RealRaven> jimm: e10s??
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# [22:07] <amitzur> Hi, where can i find resources on implementation of web components and html imports? Roadmap, support, source code etc. Thanks!
# [22:07] <glandium> jesup: if the .h doesn't vary by config or platform, then yeah, you might as well import the .h
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# [22:09] <jesup> I'll check, but I think it doesn't -- then again, I have no freaking idea what .pump files are.... ;-)
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# [22:10] <jesup> glandium: pump.py: A tool for preprocessor meta programming. Useful for generating repetitive boilerplate code. Especially useful for writing C++ classes, functions, macros, and templates that need to work with various number of arguments.
# [22:11] <jesup> so that should be fine. It's a boilermaker ;-) Similar to what builds runnable_utils_generated.h
# [22:11] <glandium> jesup: mmmmm. I can see debian nitpickers not being happy about that but meh
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# [22:13] <froydnj> hooray for lack of variadic template arguments?
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# [22:14] <glandium> froydnj: doesn't chrome now require recent enough toolchains that they could use variadic template args?
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# [22:14] <jesup> glandium: the .pump file and the .h file are under BSD-style licenses
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# [22:15] <froydnj> glandium: I thought msvc still didn't support them, even in 2013
# [22:15] <glandium> jesup: debian nitpickers will tell you that generated files need to be built from their source
# [22:15] <jesup> // This is needed because the template parameters in Bind can't be resolved if they're used both as parameters of the function pointer type and as parameters to Bind itself: the function pointer parameters are exact matches to the function prototype, but the parameters to bind have references stripped. This trick allows the compiler to dictate the Bind parameter types rather than deduce them.
# [22:15] <jesup> from bind.h.pump
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# [22:16] <froydnj> o.O
# [22:16] <jesup> well, we have the sources for pump.py in the tree, and the source for runnable_utils_generated.h in the tree
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# [22:16] <glandium> jesup: not enough, but i said "meh"
# [22:17] <jesup> Good enough for me. They can submit a patch. ;-)
# [22:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c12f753a004 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 96a5b2854978 (bug 527444) for android xpcshell bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [22:17] <jesup> assuming they notice in the bazillion lines
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# [22:21] <jesup> Hmmpf. latebindingssymboltable.cc.def etc... "// This file is a supermacro (see http://wanderinghorse.net/computing/papers/supermacros_cpp.html) to expand a definition of a late-binding symbol table class.
# [22:21] <jesup> more lines to comment out....
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# [22:23] <jesup> And I'm past the makefile generation! Now onto all the compile errors :-)
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# [22:27] <jesup> glandium: that generator isn't in the source, though
# [22:27] <jesup> so I'm definitely commenting that one out. My guess is gyp ignores files with unknown extensions, and our mozbuild stuff doesn't
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# [22:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce51e5cd2a85 - Ben Kelly - Bug 1107516 P2 Add nsILoadGroup helpers to nsNetUtil.h. r=mcmanus
# [22:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5fe0df3298aa - Ben Kelly - Bug 1107516 P3 Make sure all workers have an nsILoadGroup when loading scripts. r=sicking r=bent
# [22:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11c2074d5275 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 1110243 - CCGraphBuilder::NoteNativeChild should call CanSkipThis(). r=smaug
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# [22:43] <fitzgen> KWierso: pong
# [22:43] <KWierso> fitzgen: forgot to unping you
# [22:43] <KWierso> backed you out a while back
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# [22:43] <fitzgen> oops
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# [22:45] <KWierso> bkelly: ping
# [22:45] <bkelly> KWierso: uh oh
# [22:45] <bkelly> KWierso: hi :-)
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# [22:45] <KWierso> bkelly: non-unified bustage from bug 1098004
# [22:45] <KWierso> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4597877&repo=mozilla-inbound
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# [22:46] <bkelly> KWierso: I will push a follow-up
# [22:46] <mmc> kwierso, could I land https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c65234c3ead and https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ced6676b1d6c on m-c so they get in before buildbot updates saturday morning?
# [22:47] <KWierso> mmc: I'll get a merge in sometime in the next few hours that should include those
# [22:47] <mmc> excellent, thanks!
# [22:47] <KWierso> bkelly: great
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# [22:48] <bkelly> sorry, I thought I checked that in my try :-\
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# [22:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e82d68a27632 - Benoit Girard - No bug - Fix type error breaking microsecond profiling. r=me
# [22:52] <bkelly> can anyone recommend a good way to diff a project twig against mozilla-central? I've never done cross branch comparisons like that in hg
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# [22:53] <tbsaunde> bkelly: just use diff(1) on the two trees? I guess you need to exclude .hg/
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# [22:53] <bkelly> tbsaunde: I guess I was hoping for something smarter than that... but I guess that works
# [22:53] <glandium> bkelly: pull central in your twig, and hg diff
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# [22:54] <bkelly> glandium: can I pull just the last rev merged to the twig I guess?
# [22:54] <bkelly> I guess I'm comparing between heads?
# [22:54] <glandium> yes
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# [22:54] <bkelly> k, thanks
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# [22:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7e1d62f2a41 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1111017 - Followup on Bug 1087442 - Updating comments (r=sicking)
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# [22:58] <bkelly> KWierso: I believe this should fix it: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=ecdbe4421df0
# [22:58] <KWierso> bkelly: thanks
# [22:59] <bkelly> KWierso: I think I was getting that include from another header that changed in the tree or something... my try did not show this error before: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=39fe0423d482
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# [23:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac4815448f7c - Bobby Holley - Bug 1109954 - Make resolve/reject values optional in callback signatures. r=cpearce
# [23:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6673c0f0c31 - Bobby Holley - Bug 1109216 - Chain MediaOmxReader::ReleaseDecoder off MediaDecoderReader::Shutdown resolution. r=cpearce
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# [23:25] <froydnj> ehsan: pong?
# [23:25] <@ehsan> froydnj: what is the size of the buffer pointer to mData if the string is not null terminated?
# [23:25] <@ehsan> froydnj: is it mLength or mLength - 1?
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# [23:26] <froydnj> ehsan: oh man
# [23:26] <froydnj> ehsan: I *think* it's mLength, but I don't have time for detailed spelunking to find out
# [23:27] <@ehsan> :/
# [23:27] <@ehsan> I hate hate hate our string code
# [23:27] * @ehsan digs in further
# [23:27] <tbsaunde> I think its mLength too fwiw
# [23:28] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: are you certain?
# [23:28] <tbsaunde> ehsan: no
# [23:28] <@ehsan> sigh
# [23:28] <@ehsan> I was hoping someone would know
# [23:28] <tbsaunde> and I don't have a gdb running anymore so I can't check
# [23:29] <froydnj> I see lots of asserts around mLength without checking mFlags (which is what deals in null-termination)
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# [23:29] <froydnj> and it seems unlikely that mLength would vary with mFlags
# [23:29] <@ehsan> well then something is very very wrong :(
# [23:30] <froydnj> :(
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# [23:32] <tbsaunde> ehsan: (gdb) p name.mData
# [23:32] <tbsaunde> $1 = (nsAString_internal::char_type *) 0x7fffb6419780 u"Window 1 Window 1"
# [23:32] <tbsaunde> (gdb) p name.mLength
# [23:32] <tbsaunde> $2 = 17
# [23:32] <@ehsan> wait a sec
# [23:32] <@ehsan> I may just be stupid
# [23:33] * RyanVM|sickkid finds that highly unlikely
# [23:33] <@ehsan> no it's looking quite likely actually
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# [23:33] * Ms2ger finds that highly likely
# [23:33] <@ehsan> yes, confirmed
# [23:33] <@ehsan> ehsan is stupid
# [23:33] <@ehsan> RESOLVED FIXED
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# [23:34] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: nm, I was using the wrong length variable!
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# [23:34] <@ehsan> and froydnj didn't even catch it during review (booo!)
# [23:34] <@ehsan> how this didn't crash the browser all over the place is beyond me!
# [23:34] <Ms2ger> Maybe it does
# [23:34] <@ehsan> only ASAN catches it
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# [23:36] <RyanVM|sickkid> ASAN++
# [23:36] <tbsaunde> ehsan: well, that next char is very likely allocated, and it seems rather unlikely it would help match what your replacing or whatever
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# [23:37] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: the thing is, when testing this locally, I was using a test case which causes a few megs of buffer overflow believe it or not
# [23:37] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: and that went into mapped memory that nobody else was using
# [23:37] <@ehsan> weird
# [23:38] <tbsaunde> ehsan: oh, that is more suprising
# [23:38] <@ehsan> yeah, isn't it?!
# [23:38] <@ehsan> oh well
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# [23:48] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I guess 0 unclassified on th means no orange?
# [23:48] <RyanVM> yes
# [23:49] <tbsaunde> does it do something if you click it? it looks like a button but I don't see what it does
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# [23:56] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: it toggles showing only unclassified failures
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# Session Close: Sat Dec 13 00:00:00 2014

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