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# [00:04] <RyanVM> njn: out of curiosity, have any of your tests be done with having large numbers of changesets showing?
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# [00:04] <RyanVM> like 30+?
# [00:04] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41a8532f3fc3 - Jonathan Kew - Bug 1111879 - Avoid copying an nsFont when we don't need to modify it locally. r=dbaron
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# [00:04] <@njn> RyanVM: I've just opened treeherder.mozilla.org, scrolled down and up, maybe opened some failures
# [00:04] <@njn> RyanVM: very simple stuff
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# [00:05] <RyanVM> try loading another 20 csets and see if that turns up anything interesting :)
# [00:05] <RyanVM> it sure does a great job slowing things to a crawl
# [00:05] <@njn> RyanVM: I suspect it'll be more of the same, but ok
# [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2b7159ab2e9c - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8bf703caae32 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
# [00:05] <RyanVM> yeah, I suspect reflow to get painful
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# [00:15] <RyanVM> BenWa: I suspect this is yours - https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4695279&repo=mozilla-inbound
# [00:15] <RyanVM> KWierso ^
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# [00:16] <BenWa> RyanVM: probably, let me look at the reftest analyzer
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# [00:19] <@ehsan> glandium: who reviews windows dll blacklist changes these days?
# [00:19] <RyanVM> aklotz?
# [00:19] <@ehsan> glandium: I haven't gotten reviews there for a while
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# [00:20] <glandium> ehsan: you mean the blacklist itself, or the code handling it?
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# [00:20] <BenWa> RyanVM: whats the best way to backout two commits? hg backout x; hg backout y; hg commit?
# [00:20] <@ehsan> glandium: the latter
# [00:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97da5f6cf1b5 - Ben Turner - Bug 1104853 - Add a null check to an async IDB open operation, r=khuey.
# [00:20] <RyanVM> if you use qbackout, -e -s -r rev1:rev2 :)
# [00:20] <Ms2ger> BenWa, qbackout :)
# [00:20] <glandium> ehsan: me
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# [00:21] <RyanVM> hg backout supports revsets though, doesn't it?
# [00:21] <@ehsan> glandium: ok good! if you wanted help, I'd be happy to as well, I acted as the de facto owner of that code for a while
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# [00:21] <RyanVM> but then you get the crappy merge cset
# [00:21] <BenWa> RyanVM: I don’t have it setup, would you do me the honor?
# [00:21] <RyanVM> KWierso ^
# [00:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> BenWa: on it
# [00:21] <BenWa> ill set it up meanwhile
# [00:21] * RyanVM is going to have to learn the "nice" way of doing backouts w/o mq at some point
# [00:22] <RyanVM> that doesn't leave merge csets
# [00:22] <RyanVM> probably fun with bookmarks or something
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# [00:23] <nalexander> RyanVM: I think backouts are actually a pretty reasonable use of MQ.
# [00:23] <nalexander> RyanVM: you're really just building a patch on top of tip; the fact that we call it an MQ commit before we qfinish it is irrelevant.
# [00:23] <RyanVM> yeah
# [00:24] <RyanVM> qbackout could easily be adapted do something similar w/ bookmarks instead
# [00:24] <RyanVM> i just reverse diffs the csets given and then qrefs
# [00:24] <nalexander> RyanVM: yep. Or you |hg backout| k commits, and then histedit to squash all the backouts.
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# [00:24] <RyanVM> can you squash the merge commit too?
# [00:24] <froydnj> baku|away++
# [00:25] <froydnj> heycam: congrats!
# [00:25] <nalexander> RyanVM: not clear why there'd be a merge commit here.
# [00:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aae910aa3688 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 1103258) for b2g reftest failures
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# [00:25] <RyanVM> nalexander: IIRC, hg backout requires a merge too?
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# [00:26] <nalexander> RyanVM: hmm, I didn't know that. I guess you could just rebase the merge commit onto tip.
# [00:26] <heycam> froydnj, thank you!
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# [00:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1346d860227 - Tom Schuster - Bug 783829 - Some tests for the enumerate trap. r=efaust
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# [00:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca7f64b51c06 - Tom Schuster - Bug 783829 - Make PlacesUtils.nodeAncestors a new generator. r=mak
# [00:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7075d6399f43 - Tom Schuster - Bug 1094176 - Remove lookup JSAPI from js. r=jorendorff
# [00:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae868f859721 - Tom Schuster - Bug 1094176 - Remove lookup API from browser. r=bholley
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# [00:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/060e34d41972 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 923897 - Extensibility support for b2g r=ferjm,bholley
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# [00:37] <jimb> I hear NS_ENSURE_TRUE is now dis-recommended; is that so?
# [00:37] <@khuey> lies
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# [00:37] <jimb> but, are they damnable lies?
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# [00:38] <dholbert> jimb, it was only ever appropriate if you really think it's worth warning everybody in debug builds if the arg is false, of course. (not true in practice for a lot of existing usages, I think) i.e. failure should be very rare or worrisome
# [00:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbd204c775be - Brian Smith - Bug 952863, Part 1: Require ECDHE for TLS False Start, r=keeler
# [00:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64e991d62eeb - Brian Smith - Bug 1111392: Add tests for malformed name constraints where there are no names of the constrained type, r=keeler
# [00:39] <jimb> dholbert: Okay. That clarifies things.
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# [00:40] <jimb> dholbert: So they're for indicating internal errors, from which we can recover.
# [00:40] <dholbert> jimb, I think "NS_WARN_IF" was the proposed replacement at one point, to make return statements more explicit, too
# [00:40] <glandium> win 37
# [00:40] <dholbert> since NS_ENSURE_TRUE has a hidden return statement
# [00:40] <dholbert> jimb, see https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsDebug.h#22
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# [00:40] <dholbert> jimb, not sure how much NS_WARN_IF caught on though
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# [00:42] <jimb> dholbert: Got it. Here's where I heard it first: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=971673#c88
# [00:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfb46363d636 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 1048747 - [WebGL2] Implement uniform block/buffer. r=jgilbert, r=smaug
# [00:43] <dholbert> jimb, yeah, bsmedberg said no new NS_ENSURE_WHATEVER's at some point. I think that's a wise thing to stick to
# [00:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdefc124ccaa - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 50d264e4ffa4 (bug 1052123) for android/linux reftest failures
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# [00:47] <mjrosenb> is it still recommended to use a pdf.js from github, or is the pdf.js shipping with nightly updated super-frequently?
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# [01:15] <schien> sicking: ping
# [01:15] <sicking> schien: pong
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# [01:16] <schien> sicking: need help explaining the naming rule / design decision for PresentationSocketChannel to smaug on bug 1069230. :)
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# [01:17] <sicking> schien: hahaha
# [01:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/59b37fbb306a - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 793920 - (Part 2) Split up Reader.js to create shared ReaderMode.jsm in /toolkit. r=bnicholson
# [01:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5b1a8e8aee4 - Guilherme Goncalves - Bug 1094275 - Update the in-tree copy of jemalloc3 to commit b4acf73. r=glandium
# [01:17] <sicking> schien: I didn't intend that name to actually be used
# [01:17] <@khuey> :P
# [01:18] <sicking> schien: i was trying to be funny :)
# [01:18] <schien> sicking: heh, okey.
# [01:18] <sicking> schien: PresentationChannel is probably fine
# [01:19] <sicking> schien: or PresentationSocket
# [01:19] <sicking> schien: it's both like WebSocket and DataChannel
# [01:19] <sicking> schien: maybe it's more like a Socket, so PresentationSocket might be better
# [01:19] <schien> sicking: I’ll vote for PresentationChannel. ;)
# [01:19] <sicking> schien: cool
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# [01:20] <schien> sicking: how about the attributes and methods in PresentationChannel?
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# [01:20] <sicking> .send(), .onmessage, .readyState
# [01:21] <sicking> and bufferedAmount
# [01:21] <sicking> and .close()
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# [01:23] <schien> sicking: ok, so we still need an independent interface even when using DataChannel as underlying transport channel?
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# [01:23] <sicking> schien: i think we should have a separate interface yes
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# [01:26] <schien> sicking: ok, it’ll be great if you can leave some simple comment on the bug. I’ll also forward these information to Gina and Kilik.
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# [01:44] <sunfish> KWierso|sheriffduty: sorry, I just realize that I pushed a patch to mozilla-central by mistake
# [01:44] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sunfish: okay
# [01:44] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sunfish: whoa
# [01:44] <KWierso|sheriffduty> you pushed more than a patch...
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# [01:45] <dholbert> accidental m-i to m-c merge, effectively?
# [01:45] <sunfish> that's what it looks like
# [01:46] <froydnj> sunfish for sheriff!
# [01:46] <sunfish> :-{
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# [01:46] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: ping?
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# [01:47] <sunfish> the patch was intended for mozilla-inbound, and hg qimport must have automatically merged its dependencies in
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# [01:47] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sunfish: and it looks like m-c's been set to open instead of approval required all day...
# [01:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> so the a=__ hook wasn't active to stop you :(
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# [01:49] <mccr8> this is why I always do hg outgoing before I push
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# [01:49] <palsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a82950b9023b - Steve Fink - No bug - remove XPCOM and XPConnect
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# [01:50] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sfink++
# [01:50] <mccr8> sfink: we'd just back the patch out and make you the new module owner for both.
# [01:51] <jimb> I was fooled
# [01:51] <jimb> sfink: ^
# [01:51] <sfink> \o/
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# [01:53] <sfink> heh, somebody tipped me 0.32 XPM for that commit
# [01:53] <sfink> whatever an XPM is
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# [01:54] <jimb> sfink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primecoin
# [01:54] <shu> sfink for CTO
# [01:54] <shu> jimb: wait, it's a real thing?
# [01:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sunfish: I think this should be easy to undo
# [01:54] <shu> jimb: i've been assuming those emails were phishing scams or something
# [01:55] <sunfish> KWierso|sheriffduty: do you need anything from me?
# [01:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sunfish: you'll need to re-push your patch
# [01:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> to inbound, this time :P
# [01:55] <jimb> shu: YOU'RE RICH
# [01:55] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, what are you doing to m-c?
# [01:56] <sunfish> KWierso|sheriffduty: ok
# [01:56] <jimb> "See also: Anarcho-capitalism" thank you Wikipedia
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# [01:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dbaron: it's not a merge, so I'm just gonna hg qbackout top:bottom
# [01:56] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, oh... it wasn't a merge. ok.
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# [01:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dbaron: nope, it included inbound's tip, so I guess there's only one head
# [01:57] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, er, it sure looks like the same csets to me
# [01:57] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, pushing that backout will mean those csets are backed out
# [01:57] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, and they won't reappear when you next merge inbound and central
# [01:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dbaron: hrm
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# [01:57] <NeilAway> mdn says that vc2013 includes the 8.1 sdk but start-shell-2013 doesn't find it
# [01:58] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, i.e., next merging inbound and central should merge the backout on top of what's on inbound, which isn't what's wanted
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# [01:58] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dbaron: what would you recommend? just leave it all on m-c and hope it's green?
# [01:58] <KWierso|sheriffduty> and/or green it up as needed?
# [01:58] <&dbaron> KWierso|sheriffduty, yeah... and possibly merge on eny bustage fixes
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# [03:21] <hub> apparently m-i fail to build here
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# [03:22] <hub> like e2c20f36abff is breaking
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# [03:23] <kamidphish> BenWa's push is bad
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# [03:23] <hub> that was my suspicion
# [03:24] <BenWa> wtf
# [03:24] <BenWa> it was green on try
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# [03:25] <hub> http://pastebin.com/NTwf2XSb <- that's the error BenWa
# [03:25] <BenWa> hub: I see now, bad patch management
# [03:26] <hub> ok.
# [03:26] <BenWa> mstange: are you nearby?
# [03:26] <mstange> BenWa: just got home
# [03:26] <mstange> BenWa: need a review?
# [03:26] <BenWa> mstange: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/a066a89def00
# [03:26] <BenWa> mstange: this is what I should of attached to the bug, likely missed a qref
# [03:27] <BenWa> mstange: if you want more time to review i’ll just back it out
# [03:27] <mstange> looking...
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# [03:27] <mstange> BenWa: r+, land away
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# [03:28] <@njn> bholley: how do I tell if a Function object is JSNative-backed?
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# [03:29] <shu> ->isInterpreted?
# [03:29] <@njn> bholley: isNative()/isInterpreted(), looks like
# [03:29] <bholley> njn: yes
# [03:31] <@njn> bholley: and then how to tell which native it is?
# [03:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/889224b8a0fd - Justin Dolske - Bug 984140 - UITour: Info panels with no image are missing a left margin. r=mattn
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# [03:31] <bholley> njn: ->native()
# [03:32] <bholley> njn: which gives you a function pointer
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# [03:32] <@njn> bholley: what do I do with that?
# [03:32] <bholley> njn: intelligently logging that is harder
# [03:32] <bholley> njn: right
# [03:32] <@njn> a bunch of comparisons against known natives?
# [03:32] <bholley> njn: well, there are tons
# [03:32] <bholley> njn: i think the more interesting question is whether there are any duplicates
# [03:32] <@njn> ok
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# [03:33] <bholley> njn: because we know that we'll get one instance of js::fun_bind, js_fun_apply, etc
# [03:33] <@njn> bholley: something I saw in the shapes is that we have static variants of many built-in methods
# [03:33] <bholley> njn: but the more interesting question is whether we have a lot of any one function
# [03:33] <bholley> njn: static variants?
# [03:34] <@njn> yeah, like String.foo() which takes the string object as the first argument
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# [03:34] <bholley> njn: which is unfortunate, but per-spec
# [03:34] <bholley> njn: not much we can do there
# [03:34] <@njn> bholley: I thought it was non-standard
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# [03:34] <@njn> oh well
# [03:35] <bholley> njn: is it? maybe it is
# [03:35] <bholley> Waldo ^^
# [03:35] <Waldo> ?
# [03:35] <Waldo> the static functions are non-standard
# [03:36] <bholley> oh, cool
# [03:36] <bholley> Waldo: do people depend on them?
# [03:36] <Waldo> we probably should add telemetry and remove them after evangelism
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# [03:36] <Waldo> probably some addons, but they should be able to work around that with fills
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# [03:36] <bholley> njn: worth getting that on the memshrink radar
# [03:36] <Waldo> I doubt the web depends on then without polyfilling
# [03:36] <@njn> sounds like a job for cpeterson! ;)
# [03:36] * Waldo notes that the "generics" turned into a ridiculous cargo-cult at some point
# [03:37] <Waldo> we had "generics" for the typed array methods, which are not even generic!
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# [03:37] <Waldo> so you could do new Uint8Array().slice(...) or Uint8Array.slice(new Uint8Array(), ...)
# [03:37] <Waldo> but Uint8Array.slice *only* worked if passed exactly a Uint8Array as first argument, which made it completely pointless
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# [04:15] <nigelb> oh dear.
# [04:16] <nigelb> ah
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# [04:19] <nigelb> m-i had like 115 unstarred failures. That's not the best thing to see when opening the tree in the morning :)
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# [04:35] <cpeterson> bholley, njn: why are the static functions relevant to memshrink? are they duplicated?
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# [04:39] <@njn> cpeterson: functions are objects, and so take up space
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# [04:39] <@njn> cpeterson: also, they have to be stored on the global, which increases shape usage
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# [04:40] <cpeterson> thanks, I see
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# [04:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d6a7c8f9552 - Xidorn Quan - Bug 1052123 - Autohide ruby annotations which are identical to their ruby bases. r=dbaron
# [04:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d7e9567867c - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1112426 - stop generating unused PremultiplyTables.h in gfx/layers/; r=jrmuizel
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# [04:54] <@njn> if youtube's "stats for nerds" says the mime type is "video/mp4", does that mean MSE is being used?
# [04:55] <mattwoodrow> if it says DASH(yes) or something, then it’s MSE
# [04:55] <@njn> mattwoodrow: it says that; thanks
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# [05:04] <jld> There's a bug or something for the lack of tests happening on automation, right?
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# [05:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1b8f23ce8a7a - Mark Hammond - Bug 1109430 - Sync migrator module should show confirmation after resending verification email. r=adw
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# [05:24] <philor> fun fun fun
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# [05:25] <philor> try isn't triggering tests, would you rather have it open so you won't notice that you have to push again until you look 24 hours later, or closed with a message you won't ever see telling you to push CLOSED TREE if all you want is builds?
# [05:26] <philor> probably the latter, since you will actually see it if you look at the response message when you try to push
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# [07:44] <jesup> I see coop has a fix for the test-trigger problem. ETA on reopening?
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# [07:49] <nigelb> so, a while so we can catch up
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# [07:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/93733631e5fc - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [08:27] <philor> markh: what do you think, both broken, or just 069da43ec3be?
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# [08:28] <nigelb> philor: I... I was just about to ping you about that.
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# [08:31] <nigelb> I'm glad the accidental m-c push hasn't broken anything.
# [08:32] <nigelb> Yet.
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# [08:52] <zucchini> Hi... I am new here???
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# [08:54] <zucchini> want to start with open source but don't understanding how to initate...
# [08:55] <bagder> zucchini: just consider us all your remote friends and dive in! =)
# [08:56] <zucchini> know c++, want to contribute in OS development(knows about linux kernel)... Now here how can I start?
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# [08:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a76b8d5ee8dc - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 1098661, bug 1109430) for leaking prefs windows
# [08:58] <bagder> zucchini: so you ask in Mozilla #developers on how to start contributing to linux kernel? =) Ok fine. A very good start is to find the proper mailing lists to hang out on where the hackers are that change and work with the code you're interested in.
# [08:59] <bagder> zucchini: in the kernel case, you'd want to find the list for the area you feel like working on/poking at
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# [09:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b751f12a3ad - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 1101685 - Optionally assert in loggers, default to true on gfxCriticalError. Clean up the calls where large texture sizes were triggering the asserts in tests. r=nical
# [09:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fe7d8036eac - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 1107777 - Add autoJSAPIOwnsErrorReporting flag to JSContext options. AutoJSAPI sets it. r=bholley
# [09:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cc47794c45d - Jed Davis - Bug 1111810 - Remove Chromium IPC logging on CLOSED TREE. r=bent
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# [12:32] <mib_ewchwe> find someone
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# [13:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: ping
# [13:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=4717955&repo=mozilla-inbound could this realted to your push
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# [13:09] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking
# [13:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> just wondered because this is a svg test failure and your push touched svg
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# [13:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: yeah might be realted to your push linux opt failed now too
# [13:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> closing inobund
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# [13:16] <esawin> Tomcat|sheriffduty: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d9fd6f35c45d holds the wrong bug no (should be 1110529), it's a related bug though, what's the best way to fix this?
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# [13:18] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: something I changed in 6d81c1303daf
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# [13:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> esawin: hm i guess best is to comment in the wrong bug that this belong to the other cset and in the correct bug to resolve and post the cset
# [13:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: hm can you fix or shall i backout ?
# [13:20] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it must be something simple, but I'm not seeing it - can you back out that changeset?
# [13:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: yeah sure :)
# [13:20] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
# [13:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
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# [13:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> done
# [13:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f03a11386fb - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 6d81c1303daf (bug 1086284) for refest failures on a CLOSED TREE
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# [13:36] <rbholanath> Hi, I'm doing research at the TUDelft on code reviews and static analysis tools. I have several questions about the usage of code reviews and static analysis tools in the development of Firefox. Where would be the appropriate place to ask these questions (which mailing list, for instance)?
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# [13:54] <gaston> is there a NSPR_4_10_8_BETA1 drop planned into m-c ?
# [13:55] <gaston> or even more recent that this tag...
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# [14:18] <RyanVM> ggp: you broke my build!
# [14:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4ffe25a396c9 - Nicolas Perriault - Bug 1105525 - Enlarge Loop room rename field to prevent l10n issues. r=Standard8
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# [14:20] <ggp> RyanVM: aww. how so?
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# [14:20] <RyanVM> memory/jemalloc/src/src/arena.c(1702) : warning C4146: unary minus operator applied to unsigned type, result still unsigned
# [14:20] <RyanVM> memory/jemalloc/src/src/arena.c(2033) : error C2275: 'arena_run_t' : illegal use of this type as an expression
# [14:20] <RyanVM> memory\jemalloc\src\include\jemalloc/internal/arena.h(26) : see declaration of 'arena_run_t'
# [14:20] <RyanVM> memory/jemalloc/src/src/arena.c(2033) : error C2065: 'run' : undeclared identifier
# [14:20] <RyanVM> memory/jemalloc/src/src/arena.c(2035) : error C2065: 'run' : undeclared identifier
# [14:21] <RyanVM> ggp: Yes, I build w/ jemalloc3 enabled
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# [14:21] <RyanVM> just filed bug 1112566
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# [14:22] <ggp> RyanVM: hm, that's rather odd. it did build everywhere on try yesterday: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=336acb2b8869
# [14:22] <RyanVM> sigh, then it must be msvc2012 vs 2013
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# [14:22] <RyanVM> lovely
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# [14:25] <RyanVM> ggp: wouldn't be shocked if that means MSVC2010 is broken too
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# [14:26] <ggp> RyanVM: so does everything on try use msvc2013? where do we use 2010/2012?
# [14:26] <RyanVM> ggp: trunk uses 2013
# [14:26] <RyanVM> thunderbird uses 2010
# [14:26] <RyanVM> I use 2012 locally
# [14:27] <RyanVM> 2010 and 2012 are both still officially supported compilers
# [14:27] <RyanVM> (2010 is being dropped RSN, but AFAIK 2012 is still going to be supported)
# [14:27] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/94902e0d2120 - Mike de Boer - (no bug) convert Windows to Unix line-endings in browser_UITour_loop.js. DONTBUILD because formatting only. r=me
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# [14:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b36a41bb3c44 - Mike de Boer - Bug 1080948: UITour: tell the page when a URL is copied or emailed. r=MattN,dmose
# [14:30] <ggp> RyanVM: I see. looks like I'll have to figure out how to build on windows today then :)
# [14:30] <RyanVM> ggp: if you need me to try a patch, let me know :)
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# [14:31] <ggp> sure, thanks
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# [14:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/766d501a2066 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 1111601 - Avoid using hiddenwindow in DevTools code r=pbrosset
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# [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: ping
# [15:14] <mikedeboer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pong
# [15:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: seems https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=1465220&repo=fx-team is from your push
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# [15:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> could you take a look ?
# [15:15] <mikedeboer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hmmz, yeah, sorry
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# [15:16] <mikedeboer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: is it ok if I push a follow-up?
# [15:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: yeah sure, will close fx-team so that you can work on a fix
# [15:17] <mikedeboer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok thanks! It's a very simple fix
# [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok done
# [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: feel to push a fix, you just need to a CLOSED TREE to the commit message then :)
# [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np
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# [15:25] <mikedeboer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: alright, pushed it... ^
# [15:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mikedeboer: thanks!
# [15:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> fx-team is also reopen :)
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# [16:01] <Gijs> Pike: yeah, I just use the same commit message I'd want to use otherwise
# [16:01] <Gijs> Pike: I don't think it matters; you set reviewers separately on reviewboard anyway
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# [16:13] <froydnj> decoder: ping
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# [16:17] <decoder> froydnj: pong
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# [16:18] <froydnj> decoder: did you ever get tsan running on try, or were all the tsan runs that you did local ones?
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# [16:20] <decoder> froydnj: ive had it running on try, but it filled the logs pretty quickly
# [16:20] <froydnj> decoder: (I'm going to be pushing on tsan bits in Q1)
# [16:20] <decoder> yea, i saw that.. awesome :D
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# [16:20] <froydnj> decoder: as in, the logs would exceed the maximum size that tbpl could display?
# [16:20] <decoder> in theory, it should be working on try, with the clang that we use for asan
# [16:20] <decoder> yes
# [16:20] <froydnj> fun
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# [16:20] <decoder> we have many high frequency races
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# [16:21] <decoder> we have a blacklisting mechanism even in the tree (i think i outlined that in one of the mails to nick)
# [16:21] <froydnj> so I should just be able to flip some bits in a mozconfig?
# [16:21] <decoder> yea
# [16:21] <decoder> one sec
# [16:21] <froydnj> yeah, I found the tsan_suppressions.txt file
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# [16:21] <tromey> I think jseward would be interested, he was talking about thread checking stuff at portland
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# [16:22] <decoder> froydnj: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Thread_Sanitizer#Adjusting_the_build_configuration
# [16:22] <lmandel> RyanVM: Hi Ryan. Can you help me out with landings for 3 bugs on m-r?
# [16:22] <decoder> froydnj: basically you can use the asan config, but replace the --enable-address-sanitizer with --enable-llvm-hacks, then change CFLAGS and so on according to that mdn config
# [16:22] <gerv> RyanVM: You just un-checkin-needed my bug because an obsolete patch broke your tool :-(
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# [16:22] <lmandel> RyanVM: Bug 1105590, bug 1108627, bug 1110499.
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# [16:23] <froydnj> decoder: sweet, thanks for the pointer
# [16:23] <decoder> np:) make sure you use the right manifest as well when pushing
# [16:23] <decoder> the asan manifest, not the normal one
# [16:23] <froydnj> --enable-llvm-hacks, that sounds like a great option
# [16:23] <decoder> :D
# [16:23] <decoder> i added that
# [16:23] <RyanVM> gerv: I got that on attachment 8537728, which AFAICT is the latest...
# [16:23] <gerv> No...
# [16:23] <RyanVM> lmandel: k, one sec
# [16:24] <decoder> i think what it did was to ensure that CFLAGS and so on are passed to all subsystems properly.. including NSS
# [16:24] <RyanVM> gerv: it's the only non-obsolete patch on the bug...
# [16:24] <decoder> which would strip some
# [16:24] <RyanVM> gerv: I'm not a mind reader
# [16:24] <RyanVM> set your flags right
# [16:24] <gerv> RyanVM: Hang on
# [16:24] <gerv> No.
# [16:24] <gerv> Your error message says:
# [16:24] <gerv> Patch id=853689
# [16:24] <gerv> 8
# [16:24] <gerv> RyanVM: You didn't get the error on patch 8537728.
# [16:25] <gerv> (And that patch, 8536898, indeed has unicode decoding issues, which is why I replaced it.)
# [16:25] <RyanVM> i wonder if qimportbz looks at obsolete patches too when pulling bug data
# [16:25] <RyanVM> ugh
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# [16:25] <RyanVM> that's stupid
# [16:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3d579d5a1f96 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1106559 - Improve the in-content search preference UI, r=felipe.
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# [16:26] <RyanVM> gerv: more log console than I put in the bug
# [16:26] <RyanVM> ryanvm@ubuntu:~/repos/mozilla-inbound$ hg qimportbz 1110626
# [16:26] <RyanVM> Fetching... done
# [16:26] <RyanVM> Parsing...Patch id=8536898 desc="Updated unified diff" diff data were discarded:
# [16:26] <RyanVM> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 2067: invalid continuation byte
# [16:26] <RyanVM> done
# [16:26] <RyanVM> adding 1110626 to series file
# [16:26] <RyanVM> renamed 1110626 -> 1110626-8537728
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# [16:26] <RyanVM> thanks killer
# [16:26] <gerv> killer: YW
# [16:26] <RyanVM> so I guess it puked trying to parse the other one (even though marked obsolete)
# [16:27] <gerv> Right.
# [16:27] <RyanVM> then took 7728 ok still
# [16:27] <RyanVM> *sigh* thanks qimportbz for being "useful"
# [16:27] <gerv> It shouldn't even download obsolete patches.
# [16:27] <jimm> I think we have another vs 2012 problem on mc
# [16:27] <RyanVM> agreed
# [16:27] <RyanVM> jimm: already filed
# [16:27] <RyanVM> (by me)
# [16:27] <jimm> thx, bug #?
# [16:27] <RyanVM> bug 1112566
# [16:27] <jimm> arena.c?
# [16:28] <jimm> yep[
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# [16:28] <mhoye> mconley: Do we have something on file for the lunacy that occurs when you try to move around a crashed e10s tab?
# [16:28] <RyanVM> gerv: anyway, I guess it was much ado about nothing - I saw the error and (silly me) was worried that whatever patch ended up in the queue had issues
# [16:29] <mconley> mhoye: "move around", as in tear out?
# [16:29] <mhoye> tear out, shift left/right...
# [16:29] <mhoye> Like, moving one crashed e10s tab opens another blank tab?
# [16:29] <mconley> mhoye: this lunacy is new to me - can you please describe this lunacy
# [16:29] <mhoye> Or hides an existin gone?
# [16:29] * mconley tests
# [16:30] <mhoye> existing one....
# [16:30] <mhoye> or pops up an "undresponsive script" warning in tabbrowser.xml in a blank tab...
# [16:30] <mhoye> unresponsive, rather.
# [16:30] <mconley> huh
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# [16:31] <jimm> don't think a bug is filed on that yet
# [16:31] <mhoye> Ever heard the term "millihamlet"?
# [16:31] <mconley> mhoye: I think we should get a bug on file for these things.
# [16:31] <mconley> however
# [16:31] <mhoye> OK, will file.
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# [16:32] <mhoye> A millihamlet comes from the idea that a thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters will eventually reproduce the works of shakespeare.
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# [16:32] <mhoye> A millihamlet, therefore, is one monkey on one typewriter.
# [16:32] <mconley> mhoye: I would not be surprised if they are all the symptoms of an underlying bug - the bug where tearing tabs out results in the tabstrip getting into a weird state. Like, I'm seeing what you're seeing, but only after I tore out a crashed tab
# [16:32] <mconley> mhoye: something tells me this would be true even if the tab wasn't crashed.
# [16:32] <mhoye> I feel like that should be on my business cards.
# [16:32] <RyanVM> lmandel: on it - sorry, got a bit distracted
# [16:32] <mconley> Human Millihamlet
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# [16:34] <Bas> How do you open a reading pane in this terrible gmail interface?
# [16:34] <Bas> I'd almost forgotten how bad gmail really is.
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# [16:37] <hub> Bas: that's why I use a really mail client
# [16:37] <hub> s/really/real/
# [16:37] <Bas> hub: Oh, I'm just forwarding it.
# [16:37] <Bas> But I wanted to read my e-mails before setting up the forwarding :p
# [16:37] <hub> Bas: same here. because google ask for a phone number to access IMAP
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# [16:38] <Bas> Wow, somehow gmail seems to have gotten worse since I last used it 7 years ago.
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# [16:38] <hub> Bas: and all people that hate email use Gmail. go figure
# [16:38] <Bas> This is the most obscure interface to a webmail I've used in a long time.
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# [16:47] <@ted> mhoye: nice (re: millihamlet)
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# [16:48] <Ms2ger> Does ted self-identify as a millihamlet.
# [16:48] <Ms2ger> ?*
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# [16:49] <@ted> Ms2ger: no, although i am pretty good at breaking things
# [16:49] <@ted> i'm nowhere near mhoye levels
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> Ha
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# [16:52] <KaiRo> Bas: that's probably because gmail doesn't believe in email and tries to make it into some kind of private messaging thing that it actually isn't. just like GCal seems to be a mediocre private calendaring thingy, but nothing resembling a business calendaring solution
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# [16:53] <Bas> KaiRo: Yeah, this is a disaster. I mean, even my own, free Kolab server works a lot better than this for both e-mail and Calendaring.
# [16:53] * KaiRo says that in the full believe that there are only sucky calendaring solutions overall, because our calendar sucks from the ground up and all that software can do about it is to somehow deal with it to some degree
# [16:54] <KaiRo> Bas: <sarcasm>but I was told theose Google solutions are so much better than Zimbra!</sarcasm>
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> To be fair
# [16:54] <Bas> KaiRo: Yeah, Zimbra's pretty good.
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> lol, zimbra
# [16:54] <Bas> Ms2ger: Except quadruple lol gmail :p
# [16:54] <KaiRo> Bas: I agree
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# [16:55] <Bas> Neither of them is quite Exchange, to be fair. But Zimbra gets fairly close.
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# [16:55] <Ms2ger> Thunderbird is pretty nice
# [16:55] <Ms2ger> (Obligatory lol thunderbird)
# [16:56] <hub> the argument "android user can't get the Zimbra calendar because Google only support they proprietary stuff" made by facepalm
# [16:56] <Bas> Ms2ger: I mean as a colaboration system, not just as an e-mail client :)
# [16:56] <KaiRo> Bas: technically, Exchange is pretty good, yes (as I said above, I expect that no software can be really good esp. for calendaring) - it just so doesn't fit with what we stand for
# [16:56] <hub> KaiRo: not does Google stuff
# [16:56] <Bas> KaiRo: Yes, completely agreed. But no more does google apps :)
# [16:56] <Bas> Probably less so, even.
# [16:56] <hub> KaiRo: lipstick on a pig...
# [16:56] <@ted> calendaring is a super hard problem
# [16:57] <@ted> i've never seen a really usable solution that didn't require vendor lock-in
# [16:57] <Bas> ted: Zimbra and Kolab are both reasonably good.
# [16:57] <@ted> if you constrain it to only a single client it's probably tractable
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# [16:57] <hub> it is not like we invested in the calendaring client
# [16:57] <hub> *sigh*
# [16:58] <hub> people didn't know they could have calendar in Thunderbird
# [16:58] <KaiRo> hub: heh, yes (on the Android thing) - and I still giggle about the fact that we basically found out that the majority of the "Zimbra calendar is so messed up" complaints were due to Apple iCal having very bad interaction with CalDAV
# [16:58] <@ted> lightning is...not super awesome
# [16:58] <@ted> but it works
# [16:58] <Bas> Well, mail forwarding is setup, calendaring I guess I'm just not going to use, oh well.
# [16:58] <hub> it does
# [16:58] <hub> KaiRo: that too.
# [16:58] <Bas> KaiRo: Zimbra calendaring worked excellent for me on all clients I used (including Windows Phone)
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# [16:58] <KaiRo> Bas: same here
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# [16:58] <hub> Bas: I receive iCalendar stuff. so you should be able to use that,
# [16:58] <Bas> hub: Wait, how does this work? I'm interested.
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# [16:59] <hub> Bas: ics attachment. You should be able to add it to your calendar
# [16:59] <Bas> hub: I've got a Kolab account setup for my mozilla e-mail, can I somehow have gapps forward calendar events too?
# [16:59] <hub> Bas: AFAIK they get sent by email
# [16:59] * KaiRo found out that when he loads his Google calendar into a local client (tried KOrganizer), some events show up at wrong times, probably some timezone weirdness
# [16:59] <hub> maybe Im missing something
# [16:59] <Bas> Interesting.
# [16:59] <Bas> hub: I'll have a look, thanks.
# [16:59] <hub> Bas: I could be wrong though.
# [17:00] <jaws> RyanVM: any idea why nothing got built here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0fcbf6e24564
# [17:00] <hub> not trying to defend the G-choice. I actually am still against it.
# [17:00] <RyanVM> jaws: the api split
# [17:00] <RyanVM> 302 jlund
# [17:00] <jaws> RyanVM: i need to repush? it's also empty on TH
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# [17:00] <hub> Bas: I wanted to setup 2FA but got denied as Google want a phone number
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# [17:00] <RyanVM> yup, syntax isn't right post-split
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# [17:01] <hub> Bas: that how we treat privacy at Mozilla
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# [17:01] <hub> Bas: 2FA and ASP is the only way to access all that junk with proper clients
# [17:01] <hub> (there is a bug for that if you are interested)
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# [17:02] <KaiRo> ted: calendaring is incredibly hard already in a stand-alone system (due to timezones, daylight savings time, variable lengths of months and years that do not interger-divide to weeks etc.) and then coolborative stuff with multiple different end-user clients make it super hard. I read the iCalendar spec, took multiple days and had my head almost explode at various times there.
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# [17:02] <@ted> yeah
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# [17:02] <@ted> ical is ridiculous
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# [17:02] <@ted> but dates and times are just really hard
# [17:03] <hub> MIME as well
# [17:03] <hub> and text encoding
# [17:03] <hub> and concurrence
# [17:03] <hub> of by one errors
# [17:03] <hub> s/of/off/
# [17:03] <hub> spelling :-D
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# [17:04] <Bas> hub: Heh, well, since I believe Google explicitly allows it to couple identity information between Gapps and other non-work applications. So stimulating people to use gapps in their regular browsing sessions is already a pretty huge privacy disaster :p
# [17:04] <hub> Bas: it is
# [17:04] <KaiRo> ted: iCalendar is only ridiculous because of the underlying calendar system we have, though, I don't think there's any way to make a standard like that in a simpler way unless we trash the Gregorian calendar and our timezone and DST systems.
# [17:05] <Bas> Stardates ftw!
# [17:05] <hub> let's use stardates
# [17:05] <hub> Bas: jinx
# [17:05] <Bas> Heh
# [17:05] <KaiRo> of course, if we would adopt a Star-Trek-TNG-like "stardate" system with 1000 units per earth rotation around the sun, things would be muich easier
# [17:05] <hub> metric
# [17:05] <hub> :-D
# [17:06] <mhoye> Sadly, "swatch time" never took off.
# [17:06] <hub> mhoye: it was not y2k compliant ;-)
# [17:06] <Bas> KaiRo: I would rather pick a Stardate system with a unit based on an exact amount of radioactive decay thingy or somehting.
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# [17:06] <hub> leap years
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# [17:07] <hub> I was in a IT dept for y2k
# [17:07] <hub> the year I made the most money in that (low) salary range
# [17:07] <hub> and French labour law on overtime pay
# [17:07] <hub> :-D
# [17:08] <KaiRo> people are so used to our weird calendar, you can't change that (just like you can't change unit systems they are used to, see the usage of horse powers all around the world or the imperial units in some regions like the US)
# [17:08] <@ted> KaiRo: good luck with boiling that ocean ;-)
# [17:08] <@ted> KaiRo: have you seen how ridiculous stardates are?
# [17:08] <Bas> KaiRo ted: If we could only agree to get rid of timezones.
# [17:08] <hub> KaiRo: imperial units in construction in Canada. because of the US
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# [17:08] <hub> Bas: start with DST
# [17:08] <hub> baby steps
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# [17:09] <hub> Russia is doing that one right
# [17:10] <KaiRo> ted: if you mean the ones really used, the are pretty ridiculous, esp. in TOS (TNG and forward is a bit saner due to the concept of "100 units per series season" they introduced there - I prefer the completely sanitized version of "1000 units per earth year" and ignore that this isn't really constant)
# [17:10] <@ted> heh
# [17:10] <@ted> yeah, stardates are pretty nonsensical :)
# [17:10] <KaiRo> erm, s/100 units/1000 units/
# [17:10] <@ted> anyway, thinking about datetimes including relativistic travel gives me a panic attack
# [17:11] <KaiRo> haha, yes
# [17:11] <Bas> ted: I think Impulse stayed below strongly relativistic speeds didn't it?
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# [17:11] <@ted> Bas: but warp...
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# [17:11] <Bas> And Warp drives aren't subjected to relativity.
# [17:11] <@ted> true
# [17:11] <@ted> they just violate causality
# [17:11] <@ted> which is probably worse
# [17:11] <Bas> Not really, no way you can trigger a grandfather paradox or anything :p
# [17:12] <Bas> Maybe we're spamming this channel a little :p
# [17:12] <hub> make it so !
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> -> #starwars, folks
# [17:12] <Yoric> For stardates?
# [17:12] <Bas> Ms2ger: You have any idea how insulting that was?
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# [17:12] <tromey> lol
# [17:13] * Yoric kicks Ms2ger to #startrek.
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Bas, that's why I said it :)
# [17:13] <Bas> Ah, good :)
# [17:13] <@ted> http://physics.stackexchange.com/a/54242
# [17:13] <@ted> anyway
# [17:13] <@ted> moving on
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# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Nothing's as fun a kicking up a nice holy war
# [17:13] <hub> starwars isn't sci-fi ;-)
# [17:13] <hub> Ms2ger: Emacs vs VI? Linux vs BSD?
# [17:13] <Yoric> But starwars is holy :)
# [17:13] <RealRaven1> a questio on output-stream - does somebody know what kind of argument is needed to open a file stread to overwrite an existing file without throwing NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED ?
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# [17:13] <RealRaven1> I have some pastebin here
# [17:14] <Ms2ger> hub, BSD? What's that?
# [17:14] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: ouch. please never ever confuse the actual *science* fiction of Star Trek with the fantasy (fairy tale in space) of Star Wars
# [17:14] <RealRaven1> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8048877 line 13
# [17:14] <@ted> let's not pretend that star trek is any better in terms of science
# [17:14] <hub> or for ted Objective-C vs Swift ;-)
# [17:14] <@ted> (not that i'm claiming star wars is)
# [17:15] <hub> Ms2ger: BSD is something hollier than the holly.
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# [17:16] <Bas> ted: Hrm, I feel like his explanation is wrong. But it's been 7 years since I was last studying for my physics degree so it would take time to figure out why :P
# [17:16] <KaiRo> ted: star trek actuall is better in terms of science. I don't know of any scientist who claims to have been inspired by Star Wars in their work, I know of multiple dozens who have been inspired by Star Trek. As much as it is fiction and not correct, in Star Trek science is a central theme of stories - in Star Wars a mythical "force" and Jedi religion is
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# [17:16] <Bas> KaiRo: I'm inclined to agree.
# [17:17] <Yoric> Plus Star Trek invented the "flat" look & feel and the touch screens.
# [17:17] <hub> KaiRo: the design of the Motorola Startac
# [17:17] <hub> KaiRo: was inspired by the communicator in ToS
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# [17:20] <RealRaven1> found it https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/PR_Open#Parameters
# [17:20] <KaiRo> hub: yes, there's many examples - from everyday items like mobile phones to NASA star ship concepts. But let's get this channel back to its actual use ;-)
# [17:20] <@ted> *shrug*
# [17:20] <Ms2ger> Anyone used kcov?
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# [17:20] <hub> does anyone know the story behind the lack of reader mode on desktop?
# [17:21] <hub> it is killing me that I can't do the reading list on desktop
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# [17:21] <hub> synced with the phone
# [17:21] <RyanVM> bent: I guess you'll be wanting me to file that different stack then :P
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# [17:22] <RyanVM> bent: TH won't show the old, resolved one without effort on the user's part
# [17:22] <RyanVM> so the open one will be the one people see
# [17:22] <bent> ok
# [17:22] <RyanVM> filing now
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# [17:32] <froydnj> hub: no idea. seems kind of strange
# [17:32] <hub> Bas: btw I filed a privacy bug about gmail
# [17:32] <Bas> Heh :)
# [17:32] <hub> froydnj: the lack of feature parity is very disappointing
# [17:33] <hub> bas: bug 1112626
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# [17:36] <RyanVM> bent: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4725551&repo=mozilla-inbound
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# [17:36] <RyanVM> bent: on the push after yours
# [17:36] <bent> RyanVM, that should be unrelated, says it's running on the main thread
# [17:37] <froydnj> RealRaven1: works if you pass the actual flags, rather than -1
# [17:37] <bent> RyanVM, have we never seen that before?
# [17:37] <RyanVM> bent: it's on 2 straight pushes now
# [17:37] <RyanVM> now https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4727548&repo=mozilla-inbound
# [17:37] <RyanVM> different test, same error
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# [17:38] <bent> dunno, it didn't hit on try... if it is consistent then i guess we can pull it back
# [17:38] <bent> but i'd rather not
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# [17:38] <RyanVM> 2 in a row doesn't bode well IMO
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# [17:39] <bent> where's the second?
# [17:39] <RyanVM> i sent you two links ^
# [17:40] <bent> (fingers crossed for debug)
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# [17:40] <bent> oh right
# [17:40] <RyanVM> one opt, one debug
# [17:40] <RyanVM> different tests, same error
# [17:40] <RyanVM> both android 4.0
# [17:40] <bent> wait a sec, does stdout/stderr not make it into these logs still?
# [17:41] <@ted> stdout and stderr aren't really a thing on android
# [17:41] <@ted> i mean, you can sort of make them work with some hackery, but it's tricky and pretty sure we just don't do that
# [17:41] <@ted> most of the standard logging paths go through android_log_printf
# [17:41] <RyanVM> bent: we have the logcat available too
# [17:42] <froydnj> dammit, I think I forgot to move /usr/local out of the way before upgrading to yosemite
# [17:42] <RyanVM> bent: want the logcat links?
# [17:43] <bent> hm, just for the debug one yeah
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# [17:43] <RyanVM> http://mozilla-releng-blobs.s3.amazonaws.com/blobs/mozilla-inbound/sha512/6ae343c69c39128204899e485d8277400efa0a4887777e26cbaae9dec216e00ba749063bac7e8a8b2a00998ab4955e9b2fca50142a0b935b1907f7f0f0498dac
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# [17:44] <bent> oh
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# [17:45] <bent> this is totally unrelated
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# [17:46] <RyanVM> that's comforting
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# [17:47] <RyanVM> bent: I mean, dont' get me wrong, I'm totally willing to blame Android's known suckiness, it just seemed like one helluva coincidence given ^
# [17:47] <bent> it's just a race that we're suddenly losing, is all
# [17:48] <RyanVM> ah, so your patch changed timing enough to hit it?
# [17:48] <bent> i'll try to work out a patch for it today
# [17:48] <bent> yeah, looks like
# [17:48] <RyanVM> bent: I can't merge inbound to m-c if Android M5 is failing on nearly every push
# [17:49] <bent> sure, understood. if it is consistent then we should pull it out
# [17:49] <bent> er, nearly consistent
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# [17:49] <RyanVM> bent: ok, I'll wait for a few more runs to finish
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# [17:50] <bent> thanks
# [17:50] <RyanVM> dbaron: so I've got the Mulet M5 pinned down to a specific merge
# [17:50] <RyanVM> with *only* 176 csets in it :(
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# [17:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/66cc38d90f25 - Michael Comella - Bug 1112397 - Go back in testSettingsMenuItems on small tablet. r=gbrown
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# [17:59] <&dbaron> RyanVM, well, only another 8 bisection steps :-)
# [17:59] <RyanVM> dbaron: heh
# [17:59] <RyanVM> I'm suspecting poiru's stuff, but we'll see
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# [18:01] <bent> RyanVM, actually, i think i know what's wrong. the tests are flaky.
# [18:01] <bent> i'll push a small tweak to those two and we can see if that fixes everything
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# [18:01] <RyanVM> bent: i assume that the bad pattern doesn't exist in others too? :)
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# [18:02] <bent> it's hard to say
# [18:02] <bent> i don't know
# [18:02] <bent> but maybe android will find them!
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# [18:03] <froydnj> sigh, breaking link-clicking in the browser is no fun
# [18:03] <RyanVM> heh
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# [18:04] <bent> RyanVM, ok, let me know if that doesn't fix everything
# [18:05] <RyanVM> bent: will do, thanks :)
# [18:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d40b95ffdbf - Ben Turner - Bug 701634, Make flaky tests wait for transactions to complete before continuing to the next test
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# [18:06] <botond> How do you create a named etherpad (i.e. 'etherpad.mozilla.org/descriptive-name' rather than 'etherpad.mozilla.org/<random letters>')?
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# [18:07] <hub> botond: like that https://etherpad.mozilla.org/descriptive-name
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# [18:17] <@bsmedberg> Does anyone here know the bug# for changes to <select> that appear to have landed recently?
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# [18:21] <mconley> the trick to an empty review queue is making it hard for people to add things to your queue
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# [18:32] <gfritzsche> glob|away: hi, what can i do to get rid of redundant BMO accounts? Mostly asking because i want to switch to an email that is registered to some other account of mine.
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# [18:34] <hub> gfritzsche: I think you can request to have accounts merged
# [18:34] <hub> gfritzsche: not sure what the procedure is
# [18:34] <gfritzsche> ah, that sounds useful :)
# [18:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: another option would probably be to change that other account's email address to something else, then you can take back that address yourself
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# [18:35] <gfritzsche> well, that apparently has a 3-day block on it
# [18:35] <gfritzsche> (tried that)
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# [18:36] <@khuey> IT can mrege them
# [18:36] <@khuey> *merge
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# [18:36] <gfritzsche> khuey: ah, cool, would that be #it or some bugzilla process?
# [18:36] <@khuey> gfritzsche: something like bug 1055721
# [18:37] <gfritzsche> khuey: thanks!
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# [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: possibly from your push? https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4729869&repo=mozilla-inbound
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# [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (hit on the push after yours)
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# [19:35] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hm, I'd be surprised but there aren't that many pushes in the vicinity to blame either
# [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: could just be Android shittiness too
# [19:35] * RyanVM|sheriffduty has very little confidence in them
# [19:36] <nical> I gotta go but feel free to back out conservatively in doubt and i'll retrigger the crap of it tomorrow
# [19:36] <nical> on try
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: i'll see how it goes for a bit
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if it's a one-off, I'll file and CC for now
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> otherwise I'll backout
# [19:36] <nical> ok thanks, sorry bad timing
# [19:37] <gps> gmail says i have 0 unread emails but Thunderbird says I have 80 unread. oy.
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# [19:40] <@ted> is google maps busted on nightly?
# [19:40] <@ted> it loads in my windows nightly (with e10s) and then promptly goes black
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# [19:41] <@ted> in a non-e10s window it seems okay
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# [19:43] <bent> ted, it's been having trouble all week for me
# [19:43] <@ted> fun
# [19:43] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, looking pretty solid, yeah?
# [19:44] <@ted> i'm guessing bad e10s + webgl interaction or something like that
# [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: so far so good :)
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# [19:44] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, ok, dialing my blood pressure back then
# [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
# [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: all the retriggers we've run have hit in the tests we already knew about
# [19:45] <bent> yay (?)
# [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, at least it points to not being more widespread :)
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# [20:13] <sfink> is there any easy way to migrate a set of thunderbird filters from one account to another
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# [20:14] <kbrosnan> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Files_and_folders_in_the_profile_-_Thunderbird
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# [20:15] <sfink> yummy
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# [20:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c2973cb4fa1 - Sid Stamm - Bug 965727 - Implement tests for CSP referrer directive. (r=ckerschb)
# [20:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eabee47625c6 - Sid Stamm - Bug 965727 - Implement referrer directive for CSP. (r=jst,ckerschb)
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# [20:15] <sfink> kbrosnan: well, your answer takes me to a page that specifically says that a simple copy will work, so thanks!
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# [20:27] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e0ee525cb903 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1106876 - the one-click search header isn't updated immediately when the textfield value changes, r=felipe.
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# [20:32] <RealRaven> CAn somebody hel with reading from a nsIConverterInputStream? I am using a JSON file that "exists" but it only returns an empty string although there is data in it
# [20:32] <RealRaven> *help
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# [20:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: new one for ya - https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4734299&repo=mozilla-inbound
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# [20:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hope you're working on your deep breathing exercises
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# [20:38] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Feh. Tomcat backed roc's patch out earlier for m3 failures. THey don't happen locally (two different ones seemed to fail). And the failure logs don't have symbols for the crash traceback...
# [20:38] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, oh, that one is easy
# [20:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: that blows
# [20:38] <jamie> I have a question about firefox os version 2.2
# [20:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: good to hear :)
# [20:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jamie: maybe better to ask in #b2g
# [20:39] <jamie> okay, thank you
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# [20:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/358dc1ca192b - David Anderson - Forward Windows events to APZ directly from nsWindow. (bug 1109985 part 2, r=kats)
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# [20:41] <RealRaven> what could be wrong with it? nsIConverterInputStream when reading only gets an empty string back
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# [20:42] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: we aren't having a problem with stacks on mochitest crashes, right?
# [20:42] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, did you file that?
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# [20:44] <bkelly> mt: ping
# [20:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: not that I know of
# [20:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: not yet
# [20:44] <mt> bkelly: hi
# [20:44] <bkelly> mt: did you mean to flag me on bug 1063838? I'm not a module peer
# [20:45] <@khuey> kelly, turner, same deal
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# [20:45] <mt> bkelly: oh, I do still want your opinion :) I'll find a peer though
# [20:46] <botond> jesup: ping
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# [20:46] <mt> bkelly: I'm an ---ing moron, ignore that
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# [20:47] <bkelly> :-)
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# [20:48] <RealRaven> did anybody here use nsIConverterInputStream before? Having some trouble reading a JSON file
# [20:48] <Waldo> RealRaven: is it a non-blocking stream?
# [20:48] <RealRaven> Waldo: ??
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# [20:50] <Waldo> RealRaven: are you reading no data out of a stream *and* it claims to be closed, or are you reading too early before it has any data in it, and you need to yield to the event loop until data becomes available at some future time?
# [20:50] <RealRaven> Waldo: I have no idea. It is just a little file i the extensions folder
# [20:50] <RealRaven> no there is definitely data in it
# [20:50] <RealRaven> it only has like 6 lines right now
# [20:51] <Waldo> RealRaven: in general you have to read data asynchronously out of a stream; reading synchronously might have it claim to contain no data
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# [20:51] <RealRaven> Waldo: well I am not reading asynchronously
# [20:51] <RealRaven> I am using nsIFileInputStream
# [20:51] <RealRaven> and then nsIConverterInputStream to read that
# [20:51] <RealRaven> it is a local file
# [20:52] <RealRaven> as I don't want all my bookmarks to pollute about:config
# [20:52] <jimb> I hear someone at Mozilla has or had a line on the wall in their office labeled "You must be this tall to write multi-threaded code." Is this rumor true?
# [20:52] <jimb> And if so, can I get a photo?
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# [20:52] <jimb> said line being close to the ceiling
# [20:52] <RealRaven> Waldo: all I want to do is persist an object locally. Why is this so hard?
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# [20:52] <bkelly> jimb: sf office on the 7th floor I believe
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# [20:52] <RealRaven> The writing part was easy enough.
# [20:53] <jimb> bkelly: Excellent. Do you know who put it up?
# [20:53] <Waldo> jimb: https://twitter.com/themitcho/status/308026012455821312
# [20:53] <Waldo> not sure if dbaron put it up or not
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# [20:53] <nalexander> jimb: Waldo: oh, that's awesome.
# [20:53] <jimb> Waldo: Delicious. Thanks!
# [20:53] <nalexander> jimb: Waldo: I think there should be like 4 copies of that, all at different levels.
# [20:54] <Waldo> RealRaven: you simply need to understand what you're doing to use the various stream APIs, that's all
# [20:54] <RealRaven> Waldo: this is what I got so far - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8051289
# [20:54] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: (ot others) Whats' the best way to find what changed between day X and day Y (list of bugs/changesets)? hg log doesn't show checking date/time, though with a bit of pain and lots of trial-and-error you can figure it out. You can also use m-c nightly changeset IDs to narrow it down - again, annoying
# [20:54] <RealRaven> saveCustomMenu() works nicely. reading fails to read anything when cstream.readString
# [20:54] <RealRaven> just returns an empty string
# [20:55] <RealRaven> I am using similar code in another Add-on of mine to read the signature file
# [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: pushlog takes date ranges
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# [20:55] <RealRaven> Waldo: (Thunderbird Signature File)
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# [20:56] <Waldo> RealRaven: generally streams should only be read *asynchronously*, not sync like that
# [20:56] <RealRaven> NOw I would like to save and load a list of URL objects in a local JSON file. Without SDK help if possible, just XCPOM hard core.
# [20:56] <Waldo> RealRaven: reading sync from the file system is a great way to hang
# [20:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: i usually make use of pushloghtml?fromchange=revX&tochange=revY
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# [20:57] <RealRaven> Waldo: that's probably why reading the header of offline files with unknown attachment sizes is not exactly a great success.
# [20:57] <RealRaven> But it should work for 10 lines of bookmarks.
# [20:57] <RealRaven> Waldo: what's the alternative I just want to read <1k
# [20:57] <Waldo> RealRaven: sorry, that's not how it works -- you can't just "assume" some quantum of data's available quickly, or already
# [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: filed bug 1112716
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# [20:59] <Waldo> anyway, I'm not sure I have time to finish out this discussion in the level of detail needed to resolve it, sadly :-(
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# [20:59] <Waldo> suggest searching for nsIFileInputStream examples and working from those, maybe
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# [21:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ff45d829cf6b - Kai-Zhen Li - bug 1102277 - Update seccomp filter for newer bionic. r=jld
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# [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted ^ ?
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# [21:08] <@ted> you can use ISO dates
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# [21:09] <@ted> it also tries to parse human-readable dates with some library
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# [21:14] <RealRaven> Waldo: thanks. I might just do that. Or work with File.OS instead.
# [21:15] <Waldo> RealRaven: that latter is probably the more-recommended way these days
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# [21:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9bfe7b78b4c5 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 1112728. Temporarily disable keyedmutex usage with ANGLE until we can make it work better.
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# [21:18] <jez> Why is it that when Firefox fails to authenticate having been asked for a client cert, we give a rather obscure error message?
# [21:18] <jez> Error code: ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert
# [21:18] <jez> That doesn't tell me why the handshake failed. Is the server configured incorrectly? Did I not have the right cert? Was my cert out of date?
# [21:18] <jez> this message is almost useless, and I have no idea what to do to fix the problem
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# [21:19] <jez> Surely Gecko could be more useful than this.
# [21:19] <RealRaven> Waldo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzV_UCQFY6w
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# [21:20] <@ted> jez: i think you'll find that there has been basically zero attention paid to the client cert UX
# [21:20] <jez> that's exactly the answer i feared
# [21:20] <Waldo> :-)
# [21:20] <jez> yet startcom insists on requiring it for authentication
# [21:20] <jez> sigh.
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# [21:23] <@ted> odd, firefox on ubuntu doesn't show the "reset firefox" button in about:support
# [21:23] <Archaeopteryx> ted: Fx doesn't show it if you launch it with -P "profilename" (at least on Windows)
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# [21:40] <jez> Is there any way I can get more debug output from Gecko about client SSL certificate negotiation?
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# [21:40] <jez> you know, beyond just ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert
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# [21:49] <jcranmer|away> ckerschb: ping
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# [21:50] <ckerschb> jcranmer: pong
# [21:51] <jcranmer> ckerschb: hi, if you'll mind helping me a bit with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=1111304&attachment=8537595
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# [21:51] <jcranmer> ckerschb: nsSmtpService.cpp is perhaps the simplest basis for my question
# [21:52] <jcranmer> ckerschb: what's the difference between the NS_NewInputStreamChannelInternal on line 345 versus the one on line 359?
# [21:52] <ckerschb> jcranmer: got a meeting in 5 minutes, but I can provide more feedback/info on the bug, how about that?
# [21:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> geekboy: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/logviewer.html#?job_id=4734966&repo=mozilla-inbound
# [21:52] <jcranmer> ckerschb: sure, ping me when you're ready; I have chores that need doing anyways
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# [21:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> CC ckerschb ^
# [21:53] <ckerschb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looking
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# [21:54] <froydnj> botond: do you know the right way to force on OMTA on Mac?
# [21:54] <froydnj> (does that even make sense?)
# [21:54] <jez> i'm getting this error when trying to login to a site that requests a client certificate: ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert
# [21:54] <jez> i have the appropriate client cert installed, so i'm not sure why the error is happening. is there a way i can get more debug info as to why the handshake failed?
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# [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: getting closer :) http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=32dac7dce97a&tochange=4243e118f58d
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# [21:55] <geekboy> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looking
# [21:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: so help me, if it's http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ad5b11a7cd5 ...
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# [21:56] <@khuey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: he's at lunch
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# [21:57] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/430a23c74542 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1031264 - make opening links in new {tabs,windows} honor rel="noreferrer"; r=mconley
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# [21:58] <ckerschb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: don't know why this causes problems on B2G - maybe geekboy knows
# [21:59] <geekboy> it's probably using something like window.open that doesn't work on b2g. Reading log now.
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# [22:03] <geekboy> ckerschb, RyanVM|sheriffduty: Looks like it's trying to load an https://example.com page and that's not working on b2g
# [22:03] <botond> froydnj: i don't. mstange might know
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# [22:03] <mstange> froydnj: it makes sense, you need to flip a pref with async-animations in its name
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# [22:04] <mstange> layers.offmainthreadcomposition.async-animations
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# [22:04] <froydnj> mstange: great, thank you
# [22:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: this one's looking worse than the android mochitest failures :(
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# [22:05] <mstange> froydnj: though it doesn't really "force" animations to be async; we have lots of cases where we refuse OMTA for an animation, and we don't animate non-opacity/transform at all
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# [22:05] <mstange> well, they're still animated, just not by the compositor
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# [22:06] <froydnj> mstange: I'm ignorant in this area; is that transform in the CSS rule for the element, or in the @keyframes rule(s)?
# [22:06] <mstange> froydnj: both should work
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# [22:06] <froydnj> mstange: but you said you don't animate transform at all above?
# [22:06] <mstange> oh
# [22:06] <mstange> I meant non-(opacity/transform)
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# [22:07] <froydnj> aha!
# [22:08] <froydnj> mstange: is support for other properties on the table for 2015, do you know?
# [22:08] <mstange> froydnj: most probably not ever, except for maybe background-position
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# [22:08] <mstange> froydnj: which properties do you need?
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# [22:10] <froydnj> mstange: "need" is too strong; I'm asking this in the context of bug 1112701 (much higher CPU usage for Firefox vs. Safari); I think background-position is the culprit there
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# [22:12] <mib_d3vpz8> Hello, There is a one how work on libpeerconnectio
# [22:12] <mstange> froydnj: on wow, that page is harsh. Yes, it's background-position on that page
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# [22:15] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, working on it..
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# [22:16] <mstange> froydnj: however, even as long as we're not supporting OMTA for background-position, we ideally shouldn't need to cause wakeups more than 120 times per second on that page
# [22:19] <froydnj> mstange: why 120?
# [22:19] <mstange> froydnj: 60 times on the main thread and 60 on the compositor thread, I was being generous
# [22:19] <mstange> froydnj: though I don't really know how wakeups are counted with respect to threads
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# [22:20] <froydnj> mstange: yeah, I'm not sure exactly what counts as a wakeup yet
# [22:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> geekboy: how goes?
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# [22:20] <geekboy> it seems to be a test harness issue, failing to serve https urls
# [22:21] <geekboy> we'll have to disable on b2g and investigate... or back out my patch.
# [22:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> geekboy: whatever you want to do - inbound's closed for the time being
# [22:21] <geekboy> ok, let me investigate a bit
# [22:22] <geekboy> if I become a blocker to reopening, we can disable the test on b2g
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# [22:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you *are* the blocker :P
# [22:22] <geekboy> oh
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# [22:22] <geekboy> ok, let me get out of my meeting and write a fix
# [22:23] <@smaug> mstange: how do we trigger refreshdriver on osx? is it timer based? Then it could be 180. (timerthread, mainthread, compositor)
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# [22:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8277e5192972 - Sid Stamm - Disable test for bug 965727 on b2g on a CLOSED TREE
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# [22:37] <&dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, which bug is this bisection fo?
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# [22:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: bug 1087611
# [22:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: When it's confirmed that this is fallout from the other test being disabled, I'm just going to disable that one too and continue the game of whack-a-mole
# [22:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> since nobody seems to actually care about fixing tests on Mulet
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# [22:40] <jimm> what the hell is mulet?
# [22:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimm: the thing with the awful name that nobody cares about
# [22:42] <jimm> heh lol
# [22:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> non-snarky answer - the Fx build w/ B2G apis enabled
# [22:42] <jimm> hmm
# [22:42] <jimm> that's actually kinda cool
# [22:42] <jimm> bad name
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# [22:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimm: mochitest-2 and mochitest-4 have been hidden since they were enabled in production at the beginning of *August*
# [22:44] * RyanVM|sheriffduty should really file the bug about just turning them off instead of pretending that they're serving some useful purpose running hidden
# [22:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cc41324a5e1 - Mike Shal - Bug 1109136 - Move variable definitions from packager.mk to upload-files.mk; r=glandium
# [22:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c207cbc339fd - Mike Shal - Bug 1109136 - add upload artifact list to mach_build_properties.json; r=glandium
# [22:47] <philor> but... but... it's the *future*
# [22:47] <philor> not the present, certainly
# [22:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: might as well get the reftests while we're at it
# [22:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> those went far
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# [22:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc7b14ff7bdb - James Willcox - Bug 1049138 - Use the cairo surface format to determine gfx format when able r=jmuizelaar
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# [22:52] <sfink> I have a global const array of structs
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# [22:53] <sfink> then later I write into a field of one of those structs
# [22:53] <sfink> but it's a field I marked mutable
# [22:53] <sfink> Windows gives me an access violation on that write
# [22:53] <sfink> I guess it put the whole thing in read-only memory or something
# [22:54] <sfink> so... is it allowed to do that, given that I have a mutable field mixed in there?
# [22:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73cd5169ae6c - Ben Turner - Bug 1112716 - Blob runnable methods must be cancelable, r=khuey.
# [22:54] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, ^^
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# [22:54] <sfink> (and implicitly: is my diagnosis full of crap?)
# [22:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: :)
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# [22:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e5aea4e121c - Patrick McManus - Bug 952863, Part 3: Remove more dead code, r=briansmith
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# [23:07] <gaston> i'll never understand bugzilla search...
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# [23:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56f10b2aa4a8 - Prabhjyot Singh Sodhi - Bug 1101620 - Changed mDevPixelsPerCSSPixel of FrameMetrics.h to private and all corresponding files using this variables using getters and setters;r=kats
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# [23:17] <Waldo> sfink: I think it might not be
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# [23:18] <Waldo> sfink: C++11 [dcl.type.cv]p5 has an example that's basically exactly that, except it's just a |const MyStruct foo;|, and says the mutable member of the struct can be modified
# [23:18] <Waldo> sfink: that said, mutable members of static const structs or arrays of them seems pretty frowny-face
# [23:19] <Waldo> sfink: since the only way I can imagine to make that work requires a static initializer
# [23:19] <Waldo> of some sort or other
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# [23:19] <sfink> Waldo: well, I'm doing this because I need to initialize it programmatically
# [23:20] <sfink> it's const after my initialization
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# [23:20] <Waldo> constish
# [23:20] <Waldo> truthy
# [23:20] <sfink> and if I were completely insane, I could do all this with templates or something, since the computation is wholly dependent on const data
# [23:21] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I'd think putting it in .data instead of .rodata would be enough for what sfink wants
# [23:21] <sfink> but I don't think I will get far by arguing with the compiler about what it's allowed to do. I'm splitting just that field out into a parallel array.
# [23:21] <tbsaunde> arguing with msvc sounds like arguing with a rock
# [23:21] <sfink> except you can hit yourself on the head with the rock
# [23:22] <sfink> much more satisfying
# [23:22] <Waldo> sfink: what MSVC, out of curiosity?
# [23:22] <tbsaunde> yeah, msvc makes you hit yourself ;)
# [23:22] <Waldo> tbsaunde: hm, yeah, I think you're right
# [23:22] <sfink> 2010
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# [23:22] <sfink> or whatever it's called
# [23:22] <Waldo> sfink: we just broke 2010, so you might want to see if 2012 dies or not
# [23:22] <Waldo> get with six hours ago man
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# [23:23] <sfink> Waldo: 2 hours ago, I submitted a request for a 2013 license
# [23:23] <jesup> I heard we're deprecating/obsoleting 2010 around today or so
# [23:23] <Waldo> sfink: :-)
# [23:23] * Waldo does not particularly relish getting his Windows box set up with 2012 at some point
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# [23:23] <Waldo> set-and-forget is a great way to manage Windows dev environments
# [23:24] * Waldo ponders a (very fast) slowpoke meme for 2010's death
# [23:24] <jcranmer> we were supposed to deprecate it on Monday
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# [23:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24c139438218 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 1100851 (follow-up) - Fix trivial bustage in |mach run --dmd|. r=glandium.
# [23:26] <sfink> deprecate is such a funny word. "You know, VS2010, you really aren't very good at what you do."
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# [23:27] <@njn> VS2010, it's not you, it's me (and my code)
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# [23:30] <Waldo> now for gcc 4.5 to die yesterday
# [23:31] <jcranmer> don't you mean gcc 4.4?
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# [23:33] <Waldo> gcc 4.5's death brings us real nullptr
# [23:34] <Waldo> I think gcc 4.5 is dying the same time 4.4 dies, is the plan
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# [23:34] <jcranmer> killing off the b2g 4.4 compiler gets us min-4.7 if I am not mistaken?
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# [23:35] <jcranmer> are we min-2012 or min-2013?
# [23:35] <_AtilA_> Waldo: Yeah, I'm trying to get rid of them (bug 1056337)
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# [23:35] <Waldo> if 4.7 all the better, but I'm most aware of the benefits of 4.5 dying :-)
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# [23:37] <jimm> Waldo: 2012 has already broken a few times, might as well get 2013.
# [23:37] <Waldo> I hear 2015 is almost upon us!
# [23:37] <jimm> not for mozilla :)
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# [23:38] <jimm> I think we got eveything out of 2013 we wanted, including the pgo build fix.
# [23:38] <jcranmer> I've updated https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code to include min-2012
# [23:38] <jimm> I'd bet we'll be on it for a while.
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# [23:38] <jcranmer> I'm not sure if supporting 2012 is still a goal
# [23:39] <nemo> oh, speaking of compilers. Buddy and I were boggled by the fact that he was getting different math results in a chunk of C code from me
# [23:39] <nemo> eventually worked out I was using gcc, him, clang
# [23:39] <nemo> (clang was wrong, as far as we can tell)
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# [23:40] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/wtf.c our debug file in case you guys are curious
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# [23:40] <nemo> the difference boiled down to:
# [23:40] <nemo> double value = 1;
# [23:40] <nemo> int value2 = 1;
# [23:41] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I think there was some desire to keep 4.6 to make life easier for linux distros, but I expect its not all that long for this world
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# [23:41] <sfink> oh, wait. I don't need a license, then, do I? Seems like the Community edition has everything, and it's sort of meant for people like us.
# [23:41] <sfink> better go cancel that request
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# [23:43] <Waldo> sfink: I think you get a better debugger with MSVC official
# [23:43] <Waldo> or so I recall
# [23:43] <Waldo> although I guess they open-sourced or something recently, or so I heard or something, so
# [23:43] <Waldo> something
# [23:44] <sfink> there's a difference between Express and Pro, but from my web whacking I can't find any difference between Community and Pro
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# [23:44] <Waldo> ...oh, community !== express?
# [23:44] <sfink> but it's a little vague
# [23:44] <Waldo> get with the times, Waldo
# [23:45] <sfink> now, I only have to figure out the service now UI enough to cancel this...
# [23:45] <rclick> My understanding is community is pro the same as pro modulo the license.
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# [23:48] <@njn> who knows about layout/base/nsDisplayList.cpp? roc?
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# [23:48] <@smaug> yes, roc
# [23:49] <@smaug> maybe mattwoodrow too
# [23:49] <mattwoodrow> hi
# [23:49] <@njn> mattwoodrow: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8053031
# [23:49] <@njn> I think it's |color| that can be uninitialized
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# [23:51] <mattwoodrow> njn: drawBackgroundColor can only be true if we took the path that initialized color
# [23:51] <@njn> mattwoodrow: yeah... I'll do some more digging
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# [23:51] <jcranmer> ckerschb: ping
# [23:52] <ckerschb> jcranmer: pong
# [23:52] <jcranmer> ckerschb: are you available to talk bug 1111304?
# [23:53] <ckerschb> jcranmer: sure, how can I assist?
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# [23:53] <jcranmer> ckerschb: succinctly, the problem behind the assertion is that all newly-created channels (at least those that go through ::NewChannel2) need a load info set on them, right?
# [23:54] <ckerschb> that is correct
# [23:54] <jcranmer> I'm finding that hard to square with some of your feedback comments, though
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# [23:55] <sfink> my wife just upgraded from esr24 to fx34 or whatever we're on now, and was giving me a hard time about not being able to find the bookmarks window thing anymore
# [23:55] <sfink> I tried and failed to find it through the menu system
# [23:55] <ckerschb> jcranmer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1111304#c10
# [23:55] <sfink> finally I fell back on Ctrl-B, which worked
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# [23:55] <ckerschb> jcranmer: that should give you all the details you need to make it work
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# [23:56] <jcranmer> ckerschb: well, in nsMailboxService.cpp, you recommended not setting the load info on the protocol (= channel) ...
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# [23:57] <ckerschb> jcranmer: let me find that part on mxr again
# [23:58] <jcranmer> effectively, nsMailboxService::NewChannel2 is 'if (this is really a POP request) redirect to the pop: handler else make a channel that reads from local folders'
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# [23:58] <ckerschb> jcranmer: to simplify things - you have to make sure that _retval (the channel) has a LoadInfo attached after returning from NewChannel2()
# [23:58] <ckerschb> jcranmer: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/local/src/nsMailboxService.cpp#578
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# [23:59] <jcranmer> ckerschb: well, yes
# [23:59] <ckerschb> line 598 - handler->NewChannel2(..., aLoadInfo), ...
# [23:59] <ckerschb> jcranmer: line 602 as well,
# [23:59] <ckerschb> protocol->SetLoadInfo(loadInfo)
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