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  24. # [02:47] <karl> * Format for reporting HTML testing in the perspective of producing an interoperability report.
  25. # [02:48] <karl> maybe based on http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Guide-20051214
  26. # [02:48] <karl> I think DanC has developed tools to produce HTML report from test cases results reported in EARL.
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  31. # [03:35] <zcorpan_> is EARL relevant to someone writing test cases?
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  37. # [04:08] <Hixie> zcorpan_: probably not
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  40. # [04:22] <zcorpan_> ok
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  55. # [05:44] <sbuluf> "Wired magazine has an article that explains The Law of Optical Volumes, a formula for spacing the letters on a printed page that results in maximum readability. Wired's new logo (did anyone notice?) obeys the law. Unfortunately, Web fonts don't allow custom kerning pairs, so you can't work the same magic online as in print. Could this be why some people still prefer newspapers and magazines to the Web?"
  56. # [05:45] <sbuluf> (at slashdot, off topic, but perhaps interesting for some)
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  60. # [05:48] <Zoffix> Hm, I think the reason why I would prefer reading printed copy is because the light reflects off of it and not emitted from, thus it is easier for the eyes. As for "you can't work the same magic", well technically you _can_. It will be grossly non-semantic and a lot of work and probably will not be consistent if you use some non-widely-available-font.
  61. # [05:49] <Zeros> You could probably use letter spacing to get something similar to the WIRED logo, it doesn't look that special with the spacing
  62. # [05:50] <Zoffix> Never seen that logo, but I would agree that kerning is very good for readability and aesthetics
  63. # [05:51] <Zeros> WIRED is 18 25 24 25 in terms of spacing
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  66. # [05:52] <Zoffix> It would be nice to have some CSS method for doing this. Something like: p:kern(a,z){20}
  67. # [05:53] <Zoffix> hehe ^_^, I wonder how many browsers would have that implemented ;)
  68. # [05:53] <sbuluf> (i'm clueless myself about this, so i can't opine.
  69. # [05:54] <sbuluf> what i wonder often is what would be necessary to completely get rid of pdf
  70. # [05:56] <Zoffix> Well, the idea is that for example 'A' and 'V' standing next to each other have more space between them than say 'X' and 'D', thus you would decrease letter spacing between 'A' and 'V' to make it look better and more readable
  71. # [05:57] <sbuluf> i see
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  215. # [23:50] <mjs> hmm
  216. # [23:50] <mjs> for folks here who are also on #whatwg, is freenode down?
  217. # [23:50] <Hixie> doesn't seem like it
  218. # [23:51] <zcorpan> mjs: wfm
  219. # [23:51] <mjs> I wonder why it hates me
  220. # [23:51] <mjs> brb
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