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  26. # [09:12] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/attachment.cgi?id=94
  27. # [09:12] <MikeSmith> http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=496
  28. # [09:12] <MikeSmith> damn, pimpot not here
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  30. # [09:13] <MikeSmith> somthing funky going on with my server since switched from user-mode Linux to KVM
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  32. # [09:15] <MikeSmith> python process using 99.0% of cpu
  33. # [09:15] <MikeSmith> gee, wonder if that might be a problem
  34. # [09:16] <heycam> did irc.w3.org restart? all the channel titles seems to be gone
  35. # [09:16] <MikeSmith> heycam: don't know
  36. # [09:17] <MikeSmith> but yeah, all /topics seem to be gone
  37. # [09:17] <MikeSmith> hmm, yeah
  38. # [09:17] <MikeSmith> there was a ... problem
  39. # [09:17] <MikeSmith> fixed now, apparently
  40. # [09:17] <MikeSmith> but topics will need to b reset manually
  41. # [09:25] * MikeSmith changes topic to '"Bringing Web standards back to reality?" (HTML WG 23 Apr http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009AprJun/0008.html (This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/)'
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  61. # [11:24] <MikeSmith> "Bringing Web standards back to reality?" (This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/)
  62. # [11:28] <MikeSmith> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/bz/archives/019979.html
  63. # [11:28] <pimpbot> Title: Three Monkeys, Three Typewriters, Two Days: Spec quote of the week (at weblogs.mozillazine.org)
  64. # [11:29] <MikeSmith> "HTTP/1.1 user agents MUST notify the user when an invalid length is received and detected"
  65. # [11:29] <anne> bashing the HTTP spec is easy :p
  66. # [11:30] <MikeSmith> heh
  67. # [11:30] <Philip> I thought bashing any spec was easy
  68. # [11:30] <Philip> possibly excluding ones written by cool people, i.e. WHATWG members
  69. # [11:30] <MikeSmith> but Boris does it well
  70. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> we should have a spec-bashing competition
  71. # [11:31] <Philip> That's what LC/CR ought to be, I guess
  72. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> heh
  73. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> bravo
  74. # [11:31] <Philip> because then there's still a chance to fix it
  75. # [11:32] <MikeSmith> well, that's the theory
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  77. # [11:33] <MikeSmith> it's more fun to bash them after they become published standards
  78. # [11:36] <Philip> Maybe we should set up a preemptive HTML5 bashing competition, before it's too late to change anything
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  98. # [17:50] <ChrisWilson> zakim, this will be html
  99. # [17:50] <Zakim> ok, ChrisWilson; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
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  102. # [18:03] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  103. # [18:03] <ChrisWilson> zakim, microsoft is me
  104. # [18:03] <Zakim> sorry, ChrisWilson, I do not recognize a party named 'microsoft'
  105. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  106. # [18:03] <ChrisWilson> zakim, microsoft is me
  107. # [18:03] <Zakim> +ChrisWilson; got it
  108. # [18:05] <Zakim> + +1.218.340.aaaa
  109. # [18:05] <Philip> ChrisWilson: Your meeting announcement email said "from 17:00Z", which is an hour from now, though the timeanddate.com link said 16:00Z
  110. # [18:05] <ChrisWilson> zakim, aaaa is LauraCarlson
  111. # [18:05] <Zakim> +LauraCarlson; got it
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  113. # [18:06] <ChrisWilson> Philip: Doh! Another DST copy/paste issue.
  114. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Sam
  115. # [18:07] <rubys1> zakim, who is on the call?
  116. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see ChrisWilson, LauraCarlson, Sam
  117. # [18:08] <ChrisWilson> regrets: Julian, DSinger, Joshue
  118. # [18:08] <MikeSmith^sento> Zakim, Call Mike-Mobile
  119. # [18:08] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith^sento; the call is being made
  120. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Mike
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  123. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[apple]
  124. # [18:09] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  125. # [18:09] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  126. # [18:09] <ChrisWilson> regrets: Julian, Joshue
  127. # [18:10] <ChrisWilson> zakim, who is here?
  128. # [18:10] <Zakim> On the phone I see ChrisWilson, LauraCarlson, Sam, Mike, [apple]
  129. # [18:10] <Zakim> [apple] has dsinger
  130. # [18:10] <Zakim> On IRC I see dsinger, rubys1, Zakim, ChrisWilson, DanC, gsnedders, aroben, MichaelC, MikeSmith, maddiin, sryo, Julian, pimpbot, phenny, ROBOd, tlr, jmb, heycam, gavin_, jgraham,
  131. # [18:10] <Zakim> ... shepazu, Hixie, hsivonen, takkaria, Philip, trackbot, karl, drry, NicolasRaoul, deltab, xover, Dashiva, inimino, krijnh, hober, Yudai, ed_work, gavin
  132. # [18:10] <ChrisWilson> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
  133. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Weekly - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  134. # [18:10] <ChrisWilson> Any additions to tracker agenda?
  135. # [18:11] <ChrisWilson> action-103?
  136. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-103
  137. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Lachlan Hunt to register about: URI scheme -- due 2009-04-09 -- OPEN
  138. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/103
  139. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  140. # [18:11] <ChrisWilson> action-118?
  141. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-118
  142. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-118 -- Dan Connolly to reformat the document on URLs in HTML 5 as an Internet Draft -- due 2009-04-22 -- OPEN
  143. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/118
  144. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-118 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  146. # [18:11] <DanC> action-118 due next week
  147. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-118.
  148. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-118 Reformat the document on URLs in HTML 5 as an Internet Draft due date now next week
  149. # [18:11] <DanC> I made some progress, but didn't finish
  150. # [18:12] <ChrisWilson> OK
  151. # [18:12] <ChrisWilson> action-108?
  152. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-108
  153. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Larry Masinter to report back on the TAG's work on versioning wrt HTML -- due 2009-04-23 -- OPEN
  154. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/108
  155. # [18:12] <ChrisWilson> Larry was going to report biweekly, will move to next week
  156. # [18:13] <ChrisWilson> action-111?
  157. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-111
  158. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-111 -- Sam Ruby to work on process issues re: summary -- due 2009-04-30 -- OPEN
  159. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111
  160. # [18:13] <ChrisWilson> SR: on 111 and 99, I still don't have volunteers - my take is if we don't get volunteers, we should close. Will move back 1 week
  161. # [18:14] <ChrisWilson> Laura: put 99 on my, I think PF has comments
  162. # [18:14] <ChrisWilson> s/my/me
  163. # [18:14] <ChrisWilson> s/99/111
  164. # [18:14] <ChrisWilson> action-105?
  165. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-105
  166. # [18:14] <trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Sam Ruby to should arrange a meeting between chairs of HTML WG and XHTML2 WG to ensure there is a plan for coordination of vocabularies to avoid incompatibilities. -- due 2009-04-30 -- OPEN
  167. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/105
  168. # [18:15] <ChrisWilson> SR: don't see an outlook from XHTML on changing their use of namespace; will move back and continue to follow.
  169. # [18:16] <ChrisWilson> that covers open/pending review that are due
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  171. # [18:16] * shepazu Zakim, call shepazu
  172. # [18:16] * Zakim ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  173. # [18:16] <ChrisWilson> action-38?
  174. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-38
  175. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  176. # [18:16] <trackbot> ACTION-38 -- Sam Ruby to chairs to review need for amending charter with Director -- due 2009-04-30 -- OPEN
  177. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/38
  178. # [18:18] <ChrisWilson> any other issues to discuss?
  179. # [18:18] * shepazu SVG!!!
  180. # [18:20] <MikeSmith> SVG-in-HTML!!
  181. # [18:23] <ChrisWilson> adjourned
  182. # [18:24] <Zakim> -[apple]
  183. # [18:24] <Zakim> -Sam
  184. # [18:24] <Zakim> -ChrisWilson
  185. # [18:24] <Zakim> -Mike
  186. # [18:24] <Zakim> -LauraCarlson
  187. # [18:24] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  188. # [18:24] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  189. # [18:24] <Zakim> Attendees were ChrisWilson, +1.218.340.aaaa, LauraCarlson, Sam, Mike, dsinger, Shepazu
  190. # [18:24] <ChrisWilson> oh, piddle, RRSagent wasn't here
  191. # [18:24] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  192. # [18:24] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  193. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  194. # [18:26] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  195. # [18:26] <Zakim> Attendees were Cynthia_Shelly
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  201. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> ChrisWilson: best thing is to just start meeting with "trackbot, start meeting"
  202. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> and trackbot will call RRSAgent and Zakim and all that
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  209. # [19:37] <Philip> <SCRIPT FOR=window EVENT=onresize> location.reload(false); </SCRIPT> - great fun
  210. # [19:37] <MikeSmith> dynamic
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  212. # [19:44] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status
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  214. # [19:44] <MikeSmith> trackbot, reload
  215. # [19:44] <MikeSmith> trackbot, help
  216. # [19:44] <trackbot> See http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  217. # [19:44] <pimpbot> Title: IRC Trackbot (at www.w3.org)
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  225. # [20:06] <MikeSmith> trackbot, init
  226. # [20:06] <pimpbot> changes: Rename <header> to <hgroup> and restrict it just to supporting subheadings. (whatwg r3039) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0166.html>
  227. # [20:07] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status
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  229. # [20:08] <MikeSmith> trackbot, bye
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  232. # [20:08] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status
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  238. # [20:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6750] <header><blockquote><h1> issues <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Apr/0099.html>
  239. # [20:37] <pimpbot> changes: Introduce a new <header> element. (whatwg r3040) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0167.html>
  240. # [21:07] <pimpbot> changes: typo (whatwg r3042) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0169.html> ** Clarify <header>/<hgroup> etc. (whatwg r3041) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0168.html>
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  242. # [21:38] <pimpbot> changes: typo (whatwg r3044) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0171.html> ** Attempt to resolve the terminology confusion of heading vs header. (whatwg r3043) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0170.html>
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