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  5. # [00:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6606] generic 3rd-party <mark>, Smart Tags, and Accelerators prevention <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0272.html>
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  8. # [01:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7595] New: editorial: "represents" should be a link <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0273.html>
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  10. # [02:02] * anne wonders when the HTML WG will get a public report on the HTML CG business
  11. # [02:02] <Hixie> HTML CG business?
  12. # [02:02] <Dashiva> CG and public, that's a combination
  13. # [02:02] <anne> though I guess it is not out of order for them to discuss HTML WG issues and potential solutions in private
  14. # [02:03] <anne> http://www.w3.org/2009/09/11-hcg-minutes.html
  15. # [02:03] <anne> (W3C Member-only)
  16. # [02:03] <Hixie> anyone is welcome to discuss whatever they like in private
  17. # [02:03] <Hixie> or even in public
  18. # [02:03] <Hixie> like our superheroes
  19. # [02:03] <Hixie> doesn't mean the spec will change :-)
  20. # [02:05] <anne> yeah, I guess it's no big deal, but it's somewhat behind everyone's back without even a hint
  21. # [02:05] <anne> puts me off a bit
  22. # [02:06] <Hixie> it'll only be a problem if they expect to be able to get the spec changed without going through the normal "explain the problem, demonstrate implementation feasability, research existing solutions" step because they're experts
  23. # [02:08] <anne> rubys, if you're reading this, what Validator.nu does with the : is allowed for XML pipelines, browsers and other clients are expected to simply keep the colon intact, even when part of the local name
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  25. # [02:48] <mjs> anne: you mean the namespace thing?
  26. # [02:48] <mjs> anne: I expect Microsoft will make their proposal to the HTML WG in due course, at which point we need to be prepared to point out any issues
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  34. # [05:03] <pimpbot> planet: Blog templates: a case study in using HTML5’s sectioning elements — Edward O’Connor <http://edward.oconnor.cx/2009/09/using-the-html5-sectioning-elements>
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  37. # [06:33] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7546] "HTML 5" Editor's draft misnamed and suboptimal for HTML content authors unless refactored into HTML (main) and DOM API (appendix). <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0274.html>
  38. # [06:46] * hober is sad to hear there's member-only html wg maneuvering going on
  39. # [06:46] <mjs> hober: I don't know if it's maneuvering exactly, but I am not sure why Microsoft made their presentation to the HyperText CG before the HTML WG
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  45. # [08:34] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: list='' example (whatwg r3815) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0074.html>
  46. # [08:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7325] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0275.html>
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  50. # [09:34] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: readonly='' example. (whatwg r3816) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0075.html>
  51. # [09:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7327] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0277.html> ** [Bug 7326] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0276.html>
  52. # [10:04] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: step/min/max examples. (whatwg r3820) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0079.html> ** hixie: maxlength='' example (whatwg r3819) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0078.html> ** hixie: multiple='' examples (whatwg r3818) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0077.html> ** hixie: required='' example (whatwg r3817) <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
  53. # [10:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7332] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0282.html> ** [Bug 7331] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0281.html> ** [Bug 7330] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0280.html> ** [Bug 7329] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0279.
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  55. # [11:04] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: <select> examples (whatwg r3822) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0081.html> ** hixie: <button> example. (whatwg r3821) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0080.html>
  56. # [11:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7335] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0285.html> ** [Bug 7334] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0284.html> ** [Bug 7333] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0283.html>
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  64. # [12:04] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: <optgroup> example (whatwg r3823) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0082.html>
  65. # [12:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7337] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0287.html> ** [Bug 7336] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0286.html>
  66. # [12:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7598] New: s/character data/character data, attribute values and comments/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0288.html>
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  68. # [13:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7339] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0290.html> ** [Bug 7338] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0289.html>
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  70. # [13:35] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: <details> example (whatwg r3825) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0084.html> ** hixie: <textarea> and <output> examples, plus some minor changes to others. (whatwg r3824) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0083.html>
  71. # [13:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7599] New: Either drop the two places that set the "Origin" HTTP header, or update HTML5 to match the Sec-From/Origin I-D (if the latter is stable enough yet). <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0302.html> ** [Bug 7238] more examples <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0301.html> ** [Bug 7349] add examples here <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzill
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  75. # [14:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7509] Consider <dl type="dialog"> instead of <dialog> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0304.html> ** [Bug 7508] <dialog> needs a way to add non-speech related information <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0303.html>
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  77. # [15:05] <pimpbot> planet: Canvas Animation Kit Experiment... ...how to clear the canvas? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1417614/canvas-animation-kit-experiment-how-to-clear-the-canvas>
  78. # [16:06] <pimpbot> planet: Add HTML 5 doctype to XDocument (.NET) <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1417683/add-html-5-doctype-to-xdocument-net>
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  84. # [18:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 5897] Make &ohm; and &angst; expand to their NFC equivalents <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0305.html>
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  92. # [21:16] <annevk> http://www.w3c.de/Events/2009/w3ctag09-html5/sasaki-w3ctag09-html5.pdf
  93. # [21:18] <Dashiva> Darwin and Che, interesting opposites
  94. # [21:19] * gsnedders realizes how long it's been since he's read German
  95. # [21:19] <gsnedders> So XHTML 2 is an evil dictator?
  96. # [21:20] <anne> Dashiva, what's also funny is that around the time HTML5 started (2003-2004) Opera had this "rebel browser" marketing campaign
  97. # [21:22] <Dashiva> gsnedders: No, Che died before he could become Castro :P
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  101. # [21:47] <hsivonen> Nice to see Geolocation under the HTML5 buzzword even in a W3C presentation
  102. # [21:53] <Dashiva> Hmm, how si <canvas>Sorry, your browser doesn't support canvas</canvas> supposed to get along with a11y content if it's being placed inside there?
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  104. # [22:12] <hsivonen> Dashiva: not happily
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  109. # [23:37] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make navigating to change a fragid while the page is parsing work. (whatwg r3826) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0085.html>
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