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  1. # Session Start: Thu Oct 22 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7973] atom ID format <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0569.html> ** [Bug 7953] s/must be performd/must be performed/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0568.html> ** [Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? local (may be difficult to find out)? is this communicated to the user? can he change it? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla
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  7. # [01:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? local (may be difficult to find out)? is this communicated to the user? can he change it?" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0571.html>
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  17. # [02:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? local (may be difficult to find out)? is this communicated to the user? can he change it? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0572.html>
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  20. # [04:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8000] ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0573.html>
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  31. # [06:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7992] Original insertion mode concept doesn't work well when SVG with HTML content embedded in non-body context <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0574.html>
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  33. # [07:42] <pimpbot> planet: Microsoft to help move Canvas 2D API out of HTML5 spec? <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/zsI1LEuBXTQ/microsoft-to-help-move-canvas-2d-api-out-of-html5-spec>
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  39. # [08:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7973] atom ID format <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0575.html>
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  43. # [09:42] <pimpbot> planet: <a onlyreplace> <http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/10/22/a-onlyreplace>
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  51. # [10:46] <pimpbot> planet: Create a diagram HTML5 HTML parsing algorithm <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1605689/create-a-diagram-html5-html-parsing-algorithm>
  52. # [10:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? local (may be difficult to find out)? is this communicated to the user? can he change it? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0576.html>
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  56. # [11:40] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r472 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
  57. # [11:40] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: changed content model for <caption> to flow content; added assertions check to disallow <table> as a descendant of <caption> (b=588)
  58. # [11:40] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=588
  59. # [11:40] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 588 Allow flow content inside but disallow as a descendant of (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  63. # [12:25] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r473 /trunk/relaxng/ (embed.rnc microdata.rnc):
  64. # [12:25] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: add initial support for the itemscope and itemtype attributes (b=669)
  65. # [12:25] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=669
  66. # [12:25] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 669 add itemscope and itemtype attributes so that Web Applications 1.0 will validate (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  73. # [12:57] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Yes, you _do_ have to follow other specs. (whatwg r4270) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0183.html>
  74. # [12:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 7973] atom ID format" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0578.html>
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  83. # [13:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? local (may be difficult to find out)? is this communicated to the user? can he change it? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0584.html> ** "[Bug 7806] atom ID element generation for feed entries" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0583.html> ** [Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? lo
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  89. # [14:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7868] what about time zones? which one is used? local (may be difficult to find out)? is this communicated to the user? can he change it? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0587.html> ** [Bug 7806] atom ID element generation for feed entries <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0586.html> ** [Bug 8003] New: line breaks in attributes (especially title) <http://lists.w3
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  92. # [14:31] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: fix example that was missed in the earlier fixes. (whatwg r4272) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0185.html> ** hixie: <embed>, <object>, and <applet> only work when their document is fully active. (whatwg r4271) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0184.html>
  93. # [14:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8005] New: For control and permanently undefined characters no action is given: Whould they be replaced my fffd? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0588.html>
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  116. # [17:46] <paulc> We will need a scribe for today's WG meeting.
  117. # [17:46] <paulc> Any volunteers?
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  122. # [17:56] <dsinger> zakim, who is on the phone?
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  126. # [17:57] <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
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  128. # [17:57] <MikeSmith> trackbot, start meeting
  129. # [17:57] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
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  131. # [17:57] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-html-wg-irc
  132. # [17:57] <dsinger> zakim, who is on the phone?
  133. # [17:57] <Zakim> sorry, dsinger, I don't know what conference this is
  134. # [17:57] <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dzung_Tran, adrianba, shelleyp, dsinger, rubys, cardona507, paulc, w3org, kliehm, sbublava, gsnedders, richardschwerdtfe, aroben, jmb, MikeSmith,
  135. # [17:57] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  136. # [17:57] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  137. # [17:57] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  138. # [17:57] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  139. # [17:57] <trackbot> Date: 22 October 2009
  140. # [17:57] <Zakim> ... ROBOd, plh, taf2, Julian, MarcoAchury, myakura, gavin, tH, jarib, jgraham, mjs, drry, Hixie, Dashiva, ed_work_, karl, deltab, inimino, krijnh, gsnedders|work, CIA-1, syp,
  141. # [17:57] <Zakim> ... gavin_, Yudai, Shunsuke, hsivonen, shepazu, johndrinkwater, trackbot, Philip
  142. # [17:57] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  143. # [17:57] <dsinger> zakim, mute me
  144. # [17:57] <Zakim> sorry, dsinger, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
  145. # [17:57] <mjs> hi everyone
  146. # [17:58] <dsinger> zakim, who is on the phone?
  147. # [17:58] <Zakim> On the phone I see dsinger
  148. # [17:58] <Zakim> +cardona507
  149. # [17:58] <dsinger> zakim, mute me
  150. # [17:58] <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
  151. # [17:58] <Zakim> + +49.179.103.aaaa
  152. # [17:58] <cardona507> zakim, mute me
  153. # [17:58] <Zakim> cardona507 should now be muted
  154. # [17:58] <Zakim> +Sam
  155. # [17:58] <cardona507> good morning
  156. # [17:58] * dsinger thx now less bus noise
  157. # [17:58] * kliehm zakim, aaaa is me
  158. # [17:58] * Zakim +kliehm; got it
  159. # [17:58] <mjs> I think I'm too sick to dial in at all today
  160. # [17:59] <mjs> paulc agreed to take over chairing today's call
  161. # [17:59] * dsinger ooh sorry. Cold that's going around?
  162. # [17:59] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  163. # [17:59] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  164. # [17:59] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  165. # [17:59] <Zakim> +Plh
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  167. # [17:59] <mjs> I thought I could call in and report on my actions at least but I think I need to pump myself full of meds and go back to bed
  168. # [17:59] * rubys if paulc doesn't join in a few minutes, I'll chair
  169. # [18:00] <MikeSmith> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0006.html
  170. # [18:00] * mjs rubys, thanks
  171. # [18:00] <MikeSmith> I can scribe this week
  172. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
  173. # [18:00] * mjs dsinger, I dunno - I have a really bad sore throat
  174. # [18:00] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  175. # [18:00] <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith
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  177. # [18:00] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
  178. # [18:00] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  179. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Mike
  180. # [18:00] * mjs dsinger, and fever
  181. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Manu
  182. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  183. # [18:01] * rubys zakim, Microsoft.a has PaulC
  184. # [18:01] * Zakim +PaulC; got it
  185. # [18:01] <Eliot_Graff> zakim, microsoft.aa is me
  186. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Eliot_Graff; got it
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  188. # [18:01] <Zakim> +??P24
  189. # [18:01] <dsinger> Zakim, [Microsoft.a{ has paulc
  190. # [18:01] <Zakim> sorry, dsinger, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft.a{'
  191. # [18:01] <manu> zakim, I am ??P24
  192. # [18:01] <Zakim> +manu; got it
  193. # [18:01] <adrianba> zakim, Microsoft.aa has tross, krisk, adrianba
  194. # [18:01] <Zakim> sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'Microsoft.aa'
  195. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Matt
  196. # [18:01] <Zakim> + +1.703.234.aabb
  197. # [18:01] * mjs anyway, sorry for the belated regrets
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  199. # [18:01] <dsinger> zakim, unmute me
  200. # [18:01] <Zakim> dsinger should no longer be muted
  201. # [18:01] <MikeSmith> Chair: PaulC
  202. # [18:01] <Zakim> -kliehm
  203. # [18:02] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  204. # [18:02] * Zakim sees on the phone: dsinger, cardona507 (muted), Sam, [Microsoft], Plh, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, [Microsoft.a], Mike, Manu, Eliot_Graff, manu, Matt, +1.703.234.aabb
  205. # [18:02] * Zakim [Microsoft.a] has PaulC
  206. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  207. # [18:02] <Eliot_Graff> I think we got mixed up with Paul taking microsoft.a and I took .aa
  208. # [18:02] <dsinger> zakim, mute me
  209. # [18:02] <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
  210. # [18:02] <adrianba> zakim, Microsoft has tross, krisk, adrianba
  211. # [18:02] <Zakim> +tross, krisk, adrianba; got it
  212. # [18:02] <Zakim> +kliehm
  213. # [18:02] * dsinger was not me typing
  214. # [18:03] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0006.html
  215. # [18:03] * kliehm zakim, mute me
  216. # [18:03] * Zakim kliehm should now be muted
  217. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> Topic: Review of due and overdue action items
  218. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> action-137?
  219. # [18:04] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-137
  220. # [18:04] <trackbot> ACTION-137 -- Larry Masinter to update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), -- due 2009-10-21 -- OPEN
  221. # [18:04] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/137
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  224. # [18:05] <MikeSmith> action-137: Larry is working on setting up a lunch meeting during TPAC week
  225. # [18:05] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-137.
  226. # [18:05] <trackbot> ACTION-137 Update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), notes added
  227. # [18:05] <MikeSmith> action-137 due in one week
  228. # [18:05] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-137.
  229. # [18:05] <trackbot> ACTION-137 Update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), due date now in one week
  230. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> action-138?
  231. # [18:06] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-138
  232. # [18:06] <trackbot> ACTION-138 -- Steve Faulkner to produce a matrix based on Henri's work -- due 2009-10-08 -- OPEN
  233. # [18:06] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138
  234. # [18:06] <Laura> zakim, aabb is me
  235. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Laura; got it
  236. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> Cynthia: don't an ETA on this, try pinging Steve
  237. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Julian_Reschke
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  239. # [18:08] <paulc> action-138 due in one week
  240. # [18:08] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-138.
  241. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-138 Produce a matrix based on Henri's work due date now in one week
  242. # [18:08] <MikeSmith> Cynthia: I can send info about PF f2f agenda
  243. # [18:08] <MikeSmith> action-139?
  244. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-139
  245. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-139 -- Manu Sporny to propose 3 separate HTML5 drafts and the external Microdata draft -- due 2009-10-01 -- OPEN
  246. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/139
  247. # [18:09] <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0773.html
  248. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> manu: I sent a change proposal out
  249. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> ... to move microdata into its own spec
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  251. # [18:09] * dsinger it seems Maciej is sick, alas
  252. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> ... I attempted to follow the HTML WG policy doc to the letter
  253. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> paulc: so we can close this action item
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  255. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> paulc: manu, how do you want to carry this proposal forward?
  256. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> manu: I won't be at the HTML WG f2f, unfortunately
  257. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> action-139: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0773.html
  258. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-139.
  259. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-139 Propose 3 separate HTML5 drafts and the external Microdata draft notes added
  260. # [18:11] <paulc> action-139 closed
  261. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-139.
  262. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-139 Propose 3 separate HTML5 drafts and the external Microdata draft closed
  263. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> manu: I have questions on next steps, will follow up with maciej
  264. # [18:12] <paulc> Status: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0803.html
  265. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> action-127?
  266. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-127
  267. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-127 -- Paul Cotton to establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts -- due 2009-10-01 -- OPEN
  268. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/127
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  270. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> paulc: I sent a call for volunteers to review MathML 3.0
  271. # [18:13] <paulc> action-127 due in one week
  272. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-127.
  273. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-127 establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts due date now in one week
  274. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> ... if I don't get volunteers, I will need to communicate back to MathML WG that nobody has stepped forward for review
  275. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> action-141?
  276. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-141
  277. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-141 -- Maciej Stachowiak to document Last Call comment process -- due 2009-10-08 -- OPEN
  278. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/141
  279. # [18:14] <adrianba> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0777.html
  280. # [18:14] <MikeSmith> paulc: there was a question from adrianba, I believe mjs responded to that
  281. # [18:14] <MikeSmith> ... I believe the next step is to get agreement that we have the final version
  282. # [18:15] <MikeSmith> rubys: I'm satisfied that we have come to agreement, though we have to consider how to deal with some of the issues that we open prior to deployment of this process
  283. # [18:15] <MikeSmith> paulc: actual action item was to simply to document the process
  284. # [18:16] <paulc> action -141 closed
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  286. # [18:16] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - -141
  287. # [18:16] <paulc> action-141 closed
  288. # [18:16] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-141.
  289. # [18:16] <trackbot> ACTION-141 Document Last Call comment process closed
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  291. # [18:17] * MichaelC zakim, call cooper-mit
  292. # [18:17] * Zakim ok, MichaelC; the call is being made
  293. # [18:17] <Zakim> +Cooper
  294. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> action: Paul to send CFC for review of decision policy
  295. # [18:17] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  296. # [18:17] * RRSAgent records action 1
  297. # [18:17] <trackbot> Created ACTION-155 - Send CFC for review of decision policy [on Paul Cotton - due 2009-10-29].
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  299. # [18:17] * MichaelC zakim, I am cooper
  300. # [18:17] * Zakim ok, MichaelC, I now associate you with Cooper
  301. # [18:17] * MichaelC zakim, mute me
  302. # [18:17] * Zakim Cooper should now be muted
  303. # [18:17] <Zakim> +[apple]
  304. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> action: Sam to send request for change proposals on outstanding open issues
  305. # [18:17] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  306. # [18:17] * RRSAgent records action 2
  307. # [18:17] <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Send request for change proposals on outstanding open issues [on Sam Ruby - due 2009-10-29].
  308. # [18:17] <Zakim> -dsinger
  309. # [18:17] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  310. # [18:17] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  311. # [18:18] <paulc> Testing Task Force
  312. # [18:18] <MikeSmith> Topic: Status of Task Forces
  313. # [18:19] <paulc> Announcing Kris Krueger as Testing TF facilitator
  314. # [18:19] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2009Oct/0000.html
  315. # [18:19] <MikeSmith> paulc: I believe chairs will encourage WG members to join the testsuite mailing list
  316. # [18:20] <MikeSmith> krisk: feel free to reply to the message I posted, I will be at TPAC, would love to talk with people there
  317. # [18:20] <MikeSmith> Topic: HTML Accessibility Task Force
  318. # [18:21] <MikeSmith> paulc: we do not have a volunteer member of HTML WG to act as a facilitator in the group
  319. # [18:21] <MikeSmith> ... we continue to work on this, we recognize we are overdue
  320. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> [insert smiley face for 'mildly embarrassed']
  321. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> Topic: Plans for HTML WG F2F meeting
  322. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> action-153?
  323. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-153
  324. # [18:22] <trackbot> ACTION-153 -- Maciej Stachowiak to outline unconference format for F2F meeting - 1 week -- due 2009-10-22 -- OPEN
  325. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/153
  326. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> action-153: waiting for mjs on this
  327. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-153.
  328. # [18:22] <trackbot> ACTION-153 Outline unconference format for F2F meeting - 1 week notes added
  329. # [18:22] <paulc> ACTION-153 due in one week
  330. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-153.
  331. # [18:22] <trackbot> ACTION-153 Outline unconference format for F2F meeting - 1 week due date now in one week
  332. # [18:23] * anne can't make it today; is at a seminar
  333. # [18:23] <MikeSmith> action-154?
  334. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-154
  335. # [18:23] <trackbot> ACTION-154 -- Paul Cotton to check on F2F room size and number of participants -- due 2009-10-22 -- CLOSED
  336. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/154
  337. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> paulc: we have around 45 group participants registered, plus around 40 observers
  338. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> ... and we have large rooms on both days
  339. # [18:24] <manu> q+ Addition of RDFa WG to agenda
  340. # [18:24] * Zakim manu, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'
  341. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> ... but we continue to work on getting set up for breakout sessions
  342. # [18:24] <manu> q+ to discuss addition of RDFa WG to agenda
  343. # [18:24] * Zakim sees manu on the speaker queue
  344. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> ... we need to give the hotel people a day ahead of time to prepare the room
  345. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> paulc: Henri asked about getting a conference bridge for the meeting
  346. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> ... but it is hard to see how well that would work
  347. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> ... MikeSmith suggested it would be possible to use Skype
  348. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> ... the co-chairs favor making good use of IRC to enable remote participation
  349. # [18:26] * kliehm applause
  350. # [18:26] <paulc> ack manu
  351. # [18:26] <Zakim> manu, you wanted to discuss addition of RDFa WG to agenda
  352. # [18:26] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  353. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> paulc: thanks to Amy and Susan Westhaver for lots of help so far
  354. # [18:27] <Laura> q+ to say Shelley Powers volunteered to provide comments for MathML 3.0
  355. # [18:27] * Zakim sees Laura on the speaker queue
  356. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> q+ to talk about getting smaller rooms
  357. # [18:27] * Zakim sees Laura, MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  358. # [18:27] <paulc> ack laura
  359. # [18:27] <Zakim> Laura, you wanted to say Shelley Powers volunteered to provide comments for MathML 3.0
  360. # [18:27] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  361. # [18:27] <Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0806.html
  362. # [18:27] <paulc> ack mi
  363. # [18:27] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to talk about getting smaller rooms
  364. # [18:27] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  365. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> Laura: Shelley offered to provide comments on MathML 3.0
  366. # [18:29] <Zakim> -kliehm
  367. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> action: Michael(tm) to request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions
  368. # [18:30] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  369. # [18:30] * RRSAgent records action 3
  370. # [18:30] <trackbot> Created ACTION-157 - Request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions [on Michael(tm) Smith - due 2009-10-29].
  371. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Matt
  372. # [18:30] <Zakim> +kliehm
  373. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> Topic: RDFa WG
  374. # [18:30] <Zakim> +Matt
  375. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> manu: RDFa TF charter will end in two months
  376. # [18:31] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  377. # [18:31] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  378. # [18:31] <MikeSmith> manu: so, we are looking for a new home ... we would like a new WG chartered
  379. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> ... HTML+RDFa work will continue in HTML WG
  380. # [18:32] <paulc> Is there a draft charter?
  381. # [18:32] <paulc> Having a draft charter would really facilitate discussion.
  382. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> manu: we will have a draft charter available in about a week
  383. # [18:33] <paulc> Coordination on RDFa in HTML will be clearly defined.
  384. # [18:33] <MikeSmith> manu: we are working to make sure HTML WG has control of HTML+RDFa but other work (e.g., RDFa in SVG) would be handled in another WG
  385. # [18:34] * shepazu Zakim, call shepazu
  386. # [18:34] * Zakim ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  387. # [18:34] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  388. # [18:34] <MikeSmith> manu: if you are an AC rep and would like to see the RDFa work continue, we are looking for statements of support
  389. # [18:34] <paulc> Thank you Michael for scribing today.
  390. # [18:34] <MikeSmith> Topic: Scribe for next meeting?
  391. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
  392. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> [no volunteers]
  393. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  394. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> [adjourned]
  395. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Matt
  396. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Eliot_Graff
  397. # [18:35] <cardona507> thanks everyone
  398. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Laura
  399. # [18:35] <dsinger> cheers
  400. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Cooper
  401. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Plh
  402. # [18:35] <Zakim> -kliehm
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  406. # [18:35] <Zakim> -manu
  407. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Sam
  408. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  409. # [18:35] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
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  412. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Julian_Reschke
  413. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Manu
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  415. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Mike
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  421. # [18:36] <shepazu> good work with the Canvas draft
  422. # [18:36] <Eliot_Graff> shaepazu: Thank you!
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