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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 06 00:00:00 2010
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9662] canPlayType should return enum instead of string <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0108.html> ** [Bug 9662] New: canPlayType should return enum instead of string <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0107.html>
  4. # [00:43] <pimpbot> planet: How do I include 2 tables in one LocalStorage item? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2745472/how-do-i-include-2-tables-in-one-localstorage-item> ** Gears or HTML5 Location API on Android 1.5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2683706/gears-or-html5-location-api-on-android-1-5>
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  18. # [03:17] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Captions - Stage 9.2: More parser rules for WebSRT. (whatwg r5081) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0026.html>
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  20. # [03:43] <pimpbot> planet: IEBlog : HTML5 and Same Markup: Second IE9 Platform Preview Available for Developers <http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/05/05/html5-and-same-markup-second-ie9-platform-preview-available-for-developers.aspx>
  21. # [03:47] <pimpbot> changes: eliot: Changed abstract to emphasize that this specification is for web authors rather than UAs; updated Processing Instructions and the XML Declaration to more accurately account for requirements around using UTF-8 and UTF-16; updated doctype to speak to case sensitivity; added note excluding non-ASCII letters from lowercase requirement in attribute names; called out xml declaration as specifically not processing insstructions; changed named entity
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  25. # [04:44] <pimpbot> planet: How to superpose two GwtCanvas ? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2777989/how-to-superpose-two-gwtcanvas>
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  32. # [06:44] <pimpbot> planet: Truly W3C Community building at WWW2010 (Part 2) <http://www.w3.org/QA/2010/05/truly_w3c_community_building_a_2.html> ** Truly W3C Community building at WWW2010 (Part 2) <http://www.w3.org/QA/2010/05/truly_w3c_community_building_a_1.html>
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  37. # [08:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9663] New: Should sequences of bytes be replaced by a single U+FFFD, or one U+FFFD per input byte? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0109.html>
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  39. # [08:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9662] canPlayType should return enum instead of string <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0110.html>
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  41. # [09:19] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: forgot to fix this one (whatwg r5082) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0028.html>
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  43. # [10:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9651] autofocus should not work if the focused document is a sub-document <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0221.html> ** [Bug 9637] autocomplete IDL attribute should reflect the resulting autocompletion state <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0203.html> ** [Bug 9624] datalist should not filter options with no value <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html
  44. # [10:45] <pimpbot> planet: websockets protocols? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2779404/websockets-protocols> ** mobile: html5 vs xhtml <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1455796/mobile-html5-vs-xhtml> ** HTML5 and Same Markup: Second IE9 Platform Preview Available for Developers <http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/05/05/html5-and-same-markup-second-ie9-platform-preview-available-for-developers.aspx>
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  61. # [12:20] <pimpbot> changes: webDB; hixie: update bugs db links (whatwg r5086) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0038.html> ** webstorage; hixie: update bugs db links (whatwg r5086) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0037.html> ** device; hixie: update bugs db links (whatwg r5086) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0036.html> ** postmsg; hixie: update bugs db links (whatw
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  71. # [14:46] <pimpbot> planet: H.264 / FLV best practices for HTML <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2755968/h-264-flv-best-practices-for-html> ** Qt 4.7 scope change regarding Qt Multimedia <http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/05/06/qt-47-scope-change-regarding-qt-multimedia/>
  72. # [15:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9668] New: teracts be shared by all thontent of the empty (collapsed, s <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0228.html> ** [Bug 9667] New: assdadadada das da da d ad ads <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0227.html>
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  74. # [15:47] <pimpbot> planet: The expanding Web platform <http://www.w3.org/QA/2010/05/the_expanding_web_platform.html>
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  76. # [15:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9669] New: haloo asd as babrt <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0229.html>
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  80. # [16:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9669] haloo asd as babrt <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0233.html> ** [Bug 9667] assdadadada das da da d ad ads <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0232.html> ** [Bug 9651] autofocus should not work if the focused document is a sub-document <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0231.html> ** [Bug 9670] New: Allow "size" attribute
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  83. # [16:47] <pimpbot> planet: Serving XHTML to IE9 <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2010/05/06/Serving-XHTML-to-IE9>
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  88. # [17:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9668] teracts be shared by all thontent of the empty (collapsed, s <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0238.html> ** [Bug 9652] Help me get thia resolved <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0237.html> ** [Bug 9650] WHATWG Spec Web Site Freeze <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0236.html> ** [Bug 9662] canPlayType should return enum
  89. # [17:23] <Stevef> MikeSmith: is there no accessibility taskforce meet today?
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  91. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> Stevef: yes
  92. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> sorry, I didn't get the agenda sent out
  93. # [17:26] <Stevef> when?
  94. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> now
  95. # [17:27] <Stevef> what irc?
  96. # [17:27] <MikeSmith> we are on #html-a11y
  97. # [17:33] <MikeSmith> issue-85?
  98. # [17:33] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-85
  99. # [17:33] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- OPEN
  100. # [17:33] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  101. # [17:33] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  102. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> issue-74: progress on this is currently blocked on getting feedback from Apple, Microsoft, and Mozilla on Rich's message from April 11 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Apr/0121.html explicitly asked for review comments from them
  103. # [17:41] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-74.
  104. # [17:41] <trackbot> ISSUE-74 How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. notes added
  105. # [17:41] <pimpbot> Title: Draft Revisions to Canvas 2D Context API from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2010-04-11 (public-html-a11y@w3.org from April 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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  108. # [17:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9650] WHATWG Spec Web Site Freeze <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0239.html>
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  112. # [18:00] <rubys2> trackbot, start meeting
  113. # [18:00] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  115. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/05/06-html-wg-irc
  116. # [18:00] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  117. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  119. # [18:00] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  120. # [18:00] <Zakim> trackbot, WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM is already associated with an irc channel; use 'move HTML to here' if you mean to reassociate the channel
  121. # [18:00] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  122. # [18:00] <trackbot> Date: 06 May 2010
  123. # [18:01] <rubys2> Zakim, this will be HTML_WG
  124. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, rubys2; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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  126. # [18:02] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  127. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Sam
  128. # [18:02] <Zakim> + +1.925.186.aaaa
  129. # [18:02] <Zakim> - +1.925.186.aaaa
  130. # [18:02] <Zakim> + +1.925.186.aaaa
  131. # [18:02] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aabb
  132. # [18:02] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  133. # [18:02] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  134. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Plh
  135. # [18:02] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  136. # [18:02] * Zakim sees on the phone: +1.925.186.aaaa, Sam, +1.206.850.aabb, Plh
  137. # [18:02] <Eliot> Zakim, +1.206.850.aabb has me
  138. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  139. # [18:03] <Zakim> - +1.925.186.aaaa
  140. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  141. # [18:03] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] has adrianba
  142. # [18:03] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  143. # [18:04] <Zakim> + +1.925.186.aacc
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  147. # [18:05] * MichaelC notes A11Y TF members still wrapping up...
  148. # [18:05] <Zakim> - +1.925.186.aacc
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  150. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  151. # [18:05] <Zakim> + +1.925.186.aadd
  152. # [18:05] * rubys2 notes that maciej (who had volunteered to scribe) appears to be running late... any volunteers?
  153. # [18:06] <Julian> Zakim, +1.925.186.aadd is me
  154. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
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  156. # [18:06] <Zakim> +mjs
  157. # [18:07] <rubys> zakim, pick a scribe?
  158. # [18:07] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, rubys.
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  161. # [18:07] <rubys> zakim, pick a scribe
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  165. # [18:07] <rubys> zakim, this will be html_wg
  166. # [18:07] <Zakim> ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  167. # [18:07] <rubys> zakim, pick a scribe
  168. # [18:07] <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Radhika_Roy
  169. # [18:07] <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
  170. # [18:08] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  171. # [18:08] * Zakim sees on the phone: Sam, +1.206.850.aabb, Plh, [Microsoft], Michael_Cooper, Radhika_Roy, Julian, mjs
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  173. # [18:08] <rubys> zakim, pick a scribe
  174. # [18:08] <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose +1.206.850.aabb
  175. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  176. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  178. # [18:08] <adrianba> scribenick: adrianba
  179. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka
  180. # [18:08] <adrianba> scribe: adrianba
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  183. # [18:09] <adrianba> chair: rubys
  184. # [18:09] <rubys> topic: 1. ACTION items due by Thu May 6
  185. # [18:09] <adrianba> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thu May 6
  186. # [18:09] <rubys> action-178?
  187. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-178
  188. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-178 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve the use of the text/html mime type -- due 2010-04-29 -- OPEN
  189. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/178
  190. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-178 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  191. # [18:09] <adrianba> plh: will do this tomorrow
  192. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  193. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  194. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Mike
  195. # [18:09] <adrianba> ...at hypertext cg
  196. # [18:09] <rubys> action-179?
  197. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-179
  198. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-179 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to set automatic copy of HG to www.w3.org -- due 2010-04-27 -- OPEN
  199. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/179
  200. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-179 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  201. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Matt
  202. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  203. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/06-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  204. # [18:09] <adrianba> plh: this one is part of testing TF - should be end of may
  205. # [18:10] <Zakim> + +1.218.340.aaaa
  206. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...reported this to TF on Tues
  207. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...in progress
  208. # [18:10] <rubys> action-179 due may 27
  209. # [18:10] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-179.
  210. # [18:10] <trackbot> ACTION-179 Set automatic copy of HG to www.w3.org due date now may 27
  211. # [18:10] <adrianba> TOPIC: Issues with deadlines due by May 6
  212. # [18:10] <rubys> issue-27?
  213. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-27
  214. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- OPEN
  215. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
  216. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  217. # [18:10] <Laura> Zakim, .aaaa is Laura
  218. # [18:10] <Zakim> sorry, Laura, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa'
  219. # [18:10] <adrianba> rubys: seem to still be waiting on iesg
  220. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...any updates?
  221. # [18:10] <Julian> q+
  222. # [18:10] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  223. # [18:10] <Laura> Zakim, aaaa is Laura
  224. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Laura; got it
  225. # [18:11] <rubys> ack julian
  226. # [18:11] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  227. # [18:11] <adrianba> julian: i think iesq will happen shortly
  228. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...issues have been resolved - need ok of area director
  229. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...then be added to rfc editor queue
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  231. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> q+ to ask about CFC for FPWD publication of http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ (as part of next round of heartbeat publications?)
  232. # [18:11] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  233. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5: Techniques for the provision of text alternatives (at dev.w3.org)
  234. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...that being said, if ppl want to volunteer to test then now would be a good time
  235. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...delaying any further doesn't help - it's a matter of days away
  236. # [18:12] <adrianba> rubys: do they have something they can test now?
  237. # [18:12] <adrianba> julian: no but it will be soon so we should encourage people to think about what they want to do now
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  239. # [18:12] <adrianba> rubys: we do have volunteers, not sure what their plans are
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  241. # [18:13] <adrianba> ...once there is something to test, if nothing happens we can do something then
  242. # [18:13] <rubys> issue-82?
  243. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-82
  244. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-82 -- Suggested replacement for head/@profile does not provide for disambiguation -- CLOSED
  245. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/82
  246. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-82 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  247. # [18:13] <rubys> issue-81?
  248. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-81
  249. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-81 -- Offline Web Applications section should use the term "representation" instead of "resource" -- OPEN
  250. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/81
  251. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-81 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  252. # [18:13] <Zakim> + +1.408.398.aabb
  253. # [18:13] <adrianba> rubys: current status is if people find issues they should open bugs
  254. # [18:13] <adrianba> ...no reason to keep this open?
  255. # [18:13] * Joins: dsinger_ (mobile@67.218.106.247)
  256. # [18:14] <dsinger_> zakim, mute dsinger
  257. # [18:14] <Zakim> sorry, dsinger_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to dsinger
  258. # [18:14] <dsinger_> zakim, who is here?
  259. # [18:14] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, +1.206.850.aabb, Plh, [Microsoft], Michael_Cooper, Radhika_Roy, Julian, mjs, [IPcaller], [Microsoft.a], Janina_Sajka, Mike, Matt, Laura, +1.408.398.aabb
  260. # [18:14] <Zakim> On IRC I see dsinger_, mattmay, frankolivier, mhakkinen, janina, cyns, Zakim, Laura, MichaelC, Mark, adrianba, RRSAgent, Eliot, rubys, plh, Lachy, MikeSmith, kliehm, miketaylr,
  261. # [18:14] <rubys> close issue-81
  262. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to close ISSUE-81.
  263. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-81 Offline Web Applications section should use the term "representation" instead of "resource" closed
  264. # [18:14] <Zakim> ... aroben, ed_work, myakura, gavin, tlr, tH, Julian, arronei, shepazu, krijnh, scotfl, webben, drry, inimino, jgraham, karl, Dashiva, mamund, jmb, gsnedders, Hixie, syp_,
  265. # [18:14] <adrianba> rubys: no objections, closing the issue
  266. # [18:14] <Zakim> ... Shunsuke, johndrinkwater, Philip, hober, gavin_, phenny, thugbot, Yudai, pimpbot, CIA-1, hsivonen, trackbot
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  268. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-81: people who note remaining discrepancies are encouraged to open bugs
  269. # [18:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-81.
  270. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-81 Offline Web Applications section should use the term "representation" instead of "resource" notes added
  271. # [18:15] <Zakim> -mjs
  272. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-90
  273. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-90?
  274. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-90
  275. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-90 -- Tighten the focus and allowable content in the figure element -- OPEN
  276. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/90
  277. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-90 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  278. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-91?
  279. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-91
  280. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-91 -- Re-focus and tighten definition of the aside element -- OPEN
  281. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/91
  282. # [18:15] <dsinger_> Zakim, aabb is dsinger
  283. # [18:15] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  284. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-91 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  285. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-93?
  286. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-93
  287. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-93 -- Delete Details Element -- OPEN
  288. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/93
  289. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-93 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  290. # [18:15] <dsinger_> zakim, mute dsinger
  291. # [18:15] <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
  292. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-95?
  293. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-95
  294. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- OPEN
  295. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
  296. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-96?
  297. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  298. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-96
  299. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- OPEN
  300. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-97?
  301. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
  302. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  303. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-97
  304. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- OPEN
  305. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
  306. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  307. # [18:15] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aacc
  308. # [18:15] <adrianba> rubys: on issues 90,91,93,95,96,97 - for each of these issues there is a counterproposal
  309. # [18:15] <adrianba> ...this is being discussed but no convergence yet
  310. # [18:16] <adrianba> ...likely to go to a survey
  311. # [18:16] <adrianba> ...any comments?
  312. # [18:16] <rubys> issue-106?
  313. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-106
  314. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-106 -- Return the concept of Obsolete but conforming back to using obsolete and deprecated -- RAISED
  315. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/106
  316. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-106 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  317. # [18:16] <adrianba> rubys: we have not got any volunteers for issue 106
  318. # [18:16] <adrianba> ...if no one wants this now we will close without prejudice
  319. # [18:16] <rubys> close issue-106
  320. # [18:16] * trackbot attempting to close ISSUE-106.
  321. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-106 Return the concept of Obsolete but conforming back to using obsolete and deprecated closed
  322. # [18:16] <adrianba> ...okay, closing
  323. # [18:17] * plh zakim, who is making noise?
  324. # [18:17] <rubys> issue-106: closed without prejudice, as nobody has volunteered to write a change proposal
  325. # [18:17] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-106.
  326. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-106 Return the concept of Obsolete but conforming back to using obsolete and deprecated notes added
  327. # [18:17] * Zakim plh, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
  328. # [18:17] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aacc
  329. # [18:17] <adrianba> TOPIC: WG Decision Policy update (Maciej)
  330. # [18:17] <adrianba> rubys: mjs dropped off the call
  331. # [18:17] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aadd
  332. # [18:17] <adrianba> ...he did post resolutions to all bugs except 8895 (FPWD)
  333. # [18:18] <adrianba> ...this will be addressed by the time we get to the next FPWD
  334. # [18:18] <adrianba> ...if you have any interest in these, please look at the individual bugs
  335. # [18:18] * Quits: dsinger_ (mobile@67.218.106.247) (Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi)
  336. # [18:18] <adrianba> mjs: one bug in particular i would like comments on
  337. # [18:18] <adrianba> ...the one that proposes a consistent system for bugzilla resolutions
  338. # [18:19] <Zakim> + +1.650.862.aaee
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  340. # [18:19] <MikeSmith> bug 9284
  341. # [18:20] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9284 mjs@apple.com, P2, REOPENED, Consider giving guidelines for use of different bug resolutions
  342. # [18:20] <adrianba> mjs: there is a specific proposal there, there have been a couple of comments
  343. # [18:20] <adrianba> ...would like to make sure we end up with something reasonable
  344. # [18:20] <adrianba> MikeSmith: there is a comment from Henri there
  345. # [18:21] <adrianba> ...I can add a comment there as someone editing a document
  346. # [18:21] <adrianba> ...would be good to get others editing to add comments there
  347. # [18:21] <adrianba> rubys: anything else?
  348. # [18:21] <adrianba> mjs: that's all
  349. # [18:21] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items that close next week (by Thu May 13)
  350. # [18:21] <adrianba> rubys: none
  351. # [18:22] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Calls for Proposals/Counter Proposals/Consensus this Week
  352. # [18:22] <rubys> issue-85?
  353. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-85
  354. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- OPEN
  355. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  356. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  357. # [18:22] <rubys> issue-101?
  358. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-101
  359. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- OPEN
  360. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
  361. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  362. # [18:22] <rubys> issue-105?
  363. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-105
  364. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- OPEN
  365. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  366. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  367. # [18:22] <adrianba> rubys: 3 that are calls for counter proposals - will correct mistake in call after meeting
  368. # [18:22] <adrianba> rubys: any questions?
  369. # [18:23] <adrianba> Mike: I thought we had more time on this?
  370. # [18:23] <adrianba> rubys: we have proposals, there is a call for counter proposals - ppl will have time after they volunteer
  371. # [18:23] <adrianba> cyns: issue 85 was discussing in TF this morning
  372. # [18:24] <adrianba> janina: it will be news that we agreed for june 24
  373. # [18:24] <adrianba> ...we spent a lot of the call discussing trying to bring in earlier
  374. # [18:24] <adrianba> ...but we think this is appropriate for a clean and precise suggestion
  375. # [18:25] * Joins: dsinger (dsinger@17.197.20.4)
  376. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...there is now an active group - chance they will beat the deadline but everyone comfortable with the deadline
  377. # [18:25] <Zakim> + +1.408.996.aaff
  378. # [18:25] <dsinger> zakim, aaff is [Apple]
  379. # [18:25] <Zakim> +[Apple]; got it
  380. # [18:25] <adrianba> janina: canvas map we are waiting for chaals
  381. # [18:25] * dsinger zakim, you have a dreadful memory, damni
  382. # [18:25] * Zakim I don't understand 'you have a dreadful memory, damni', dsinger
  383. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...caret proposal is needing dev feedback from msft and apple
  384. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...actions taken to ping people that need to provide feedback
  385. # [18:25] <dsinger> zakim, [Apple] has dsinger
  386. # [18:25] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  387. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...may need to slip into june because of lack of feedback
  388. # [18:26] <Zakim> -dsinger
  389. # [18:26] <adrianba> rubys: obviously lots of work to do on canvas
  390. # [18:26] <adrianba> ...is the map proposal not ready yet?
  391. # [18:26] <adrianba> janina: not sure which this is
  392. # [18:26] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/addimagemaptocanvas
  393. # [18:26] <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/addimagemaptocanvas - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  394. # [18:26] <adrianba> rubys: issue 105 on the status proposal page
  395. # [18:27] <adrianba> janina: we have an action on chaals to provide more spec ready text
  396. # [18:27] <adrianba> ...we would like to hold on that a couple more weeks
  397. # [18:27] <adrianba> ...he took that action in april
  398. # [18:27] <JF> don't want to speak for Chaals or SteveF, but I beleive that Steve *did* write that up on Chaal's behalf
  399. # [18:27] <adrianba> mjs: this isn't a final deadline for proposals - call for counter proposals doesn't cut anyone off
  400. # [18:27] <adrianba> janina: okay, my misunderstanding
  401. # [18:28] <adrianba> rubys: you'd rather 85 not proceed?
  402. # [18:28] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ARIAonanchor
  403. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/ARIAonanchor - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  404. # [18:28] <adrianba> janina: yes, i think we don't want to move forward until misunderstandings resolved
  405. # [18:28] <adrianba> ...we want to be very clear about definitions and what is included
  406. # [18:28] <adrianba> ...in the past there has been misunderstanding
  407. # [18:28] <adrianba> cyns: clear and systematic
  408. # [18:29] <adrianba> ...instead of list of roles that can override, point to a piece of tree of related elements
  409. # [18:29] <adrianba> ...so it is clear why certain overrides are allowed
  410. # [18:29] <adrianba> ...so both to be more clear and more logical and understandable
  411. # [18:29] <adrianba> ...we're making good progress
  412. # [18:29] <adrianba> Laura: should this be separate from other aria work
  413. # [18:30] <adrianba> rubys: this was received in feb, once the discussion dies down we give people opportunity to counter proposal
  414. # [18:30] <adrianba> ...perhaps steve could withdraw is proposal
  415. # [18:30] <adrianba> janina: if that was on steve then perhaps
  416. # [18:30] <adrianba> ...think at that point he was acting individually
  417. # [18:30] <adrianba> ...we didn't have this level of organisation
  418. # [18:30] <adrianba> cyns: we concluded that individually wasn't the best way to work
  419. # [18:31] <adrianba> ...don't think we have another issue to track the work
  420. # [18:31] <adrianba> rubys: my preference is specific feedback should have bugs
  421. # [18:31] <adrianba> Laura: this does have a bug
  422. # [18:31] <adrianba> rubys: true, nothing prevents new bugs
  423. # [18:31] <adrianba> cyns: true, but we need work to figure out what those bugs are
  424. # [18:32] <adrianba> rubys: janina, will you speak to steve about this
  425. # [18:32] <adrianba> janina: sure
  426. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> q?
  427. # [18:32] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  428. # [18:32] <adrianba> ...that does beg the question about how we want to deal with all aria mapping
  429. # [18:32] <adrianba> rubys: not proposing to close issue
  430. # [18:32] <adrianba> ...think it's confusing to have a proposal on the table when you don't want to proceed
  431. # [18:32] <adrianba> ...would like to get this withdrawn
  432. # [18:32] <adrianba> janina: i will talk with him
  433. # [18:33] <adrianba> TOPIC: Upcoming Surveys
  434. # [18:33] <adrianba> rubys: last time we got off topic comments
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  436. # [18:33] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010May/0052.html
  437. # [18:33] <pimpbot> Title: Preparing for Surveys - Ground Rules from Sam Ruby on 2010-05-05 (public-html@w3.org from May 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  438. # [18:33] <adrianba> ...this time we will do more to enforce scope of survey
  439. # [18:33] <adrianba> ...two that we're considering
  440. # [18:33] <rubys> Issue-66?
  441. # [18:33] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-66
  442. # [18:33] <trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- OPEN
  443. # [18:33] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
  444. # [18:33] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  445. # [18:33] <rubys> Issue-88?
  446. # [18:33] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-88
  447. # [18:33] <trackbot> ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- OPEN
  448. # [18:33] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
  449. # [18:33] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  450. # [18:33] <adrianba> rubys: think we're reading on issue 66
  451. # [18:34] <adrianba> ...still some last minute tweaks on 88 - will give people a few more days
  452. # [18:34] <adrianba> ...for example, new proposal and more discussion ongoing
  453. # [18:34] <adrianba> ...any discussion?
  454. # [18:34] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Issues This Week
  455. # [18:34] <Zakim> -Julian
  456. # [18:34] <MikeSmith> q+ a11y TF and recent spec additions related to media-element accessibility; e.g., http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#timed-tracks and http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#websrt represent destablizing changes
  457. # [18:34] * Zakim MikeSmith, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'
  458. # [18:34] <adrianba> rubys: none
  459. # [18:34] <pimpbot> Title: 4.8.6 The video element HTML 5 (at dev.w3.org)
  460. # [18:34] <adrianba> TOPIC: Document Publishing candidates
  461. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> q+ to comment about a11y TF and recent spec additions related to media-element accessibility; e.g., http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#timed-tracks and http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#websrt represent destablizing changes
  462. # [18:35] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  463. # [18:35] <pimpbot> Title: 4.8.6 The video element HTML 5 (at dev.w3.org)
  464. # [18:35] * Joins: cyns (43aa22f3@128.30.52.43)
  465. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> q?
  466. # [18:35] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  467. # [18:35] <rubys> ack next
  468. # [18:35] * Zakim sees MikeSmith at the head of the speaker queue
  469. # [18:35] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to ask about CFC for FPWD publication of http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ (as part of next round of heartbeat publications?) and to comment about a11y
  470. # [18:35] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5: Techniques for the provision of text alternatives (at dev.w3.org)
  471. # [18:35] <Zakim> ... TF and recent spec additions related to media-element accessibility; e.g., http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#timed-tracks and
  472. # [18:35] <pimpbot> Title: 4.8.6 The video element HTML 5 (at dev.w3.org)
  473. # [18:35] <Zakim> ... http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#websrt represent destablizing changes
  474. # [18:35] <pimpbot> Title: 4.8.6 The video element HTML 5 (at dev.w3.org)
  475. # [18:35] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  476. # [18:35] <adrianba> MikeSmith: steve working on document for some time on guidance for alt text for images
  477. # [18:36] <Laura> http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
  478. # [18:36] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5: Techniques for the provision of text alternatives (at dev.w3.org)
  479. # [18:36] <adrianba> ...he would like for that doc to be considered for FPWD publication
  480. # [18:36] <adrianba> ...would like to bring this to attention of chairs
  481. # [18:36] <adrianba> ...would need call for consensus on that
  482. # [18:36] <adrianba> ...speaking for the a11y tf, we'd like this to be published alongside the next heartbeat publications
  483. # [18:36] <adrianba> rubys: noted, will add it to list of tracked docs
  484. # [18:37] <adrianba> ...can this be on public-html
  485. # [18:37] <adrianba> MikeSmith: we'll get that done
  486. # [18:37] <adrianba> rubys: now would be an appropriate time with discussion of other docs
  487. # [18:37] <plh> q+
  488. # [18:37] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  489. # [18:37] <rubys> docs: HTML5,HTML+RDFa, HTML Microdata, HTML Canvas 2D Context, HTML: The Markup Language, HTML5 diffs from HTML4, HTML/XHTML Compatibility Authoring Guidelines
  490. # [18:37] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  491. # [18:37] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/06-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  492. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 06 May 2010 (at www.w3.org)
  493. # [18:37] <rubys> ack next
  494. # [18:37] * Zakim sees plh at the head of the speaker queue
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  496. # [18:38] <MikeSmith> q?
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  498. # [18:38] <janina> q?
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  500. # [18:38] <adrianba> plh: just reading e-mail about this - my concern is that for next round of publication we might start get objections because of being out of scope for the WG
  501. # [18:38] <janina> q+
  502. # [18:38] * Zakim sees janina on the speaker queue
  503. # [18:38] <adrianba> MikeSmith: yes, we had discussion about this on TF call
  504. # [18:38] <adrianba> ...we will get objections about WebSRT
  505. # [18:38] * dsinger because of what being out of scope? the word is missing in the trace here
  506. # [18:39] <adrianba> plh: not just because it is in the HTML5 spec but because it isn't in scope for WG
  507. # [18:39] <adrianba> ...might be hard to argue that this is in scope
  508. # [18:39] <Laura> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#websrt
  509. # [18:39] <pimpbot> Title: 4.8.6 The video element HTML 5 (at dev.w3.org)
  510. # [18:39] <adrianba> ...relatively new to group
  511. # [18:39] <dsinger> it seems that the 'it' is the captioning format SRT
  512. # [18:39] <adrianba> rubys: please open bugs
  513. # [18:39] <plh> david, correct
  514. # [18:39] <adrianba> janina: think the hope might be to possible to avoid this process until requirements determined
  515. # [18:40] <dsinger> q+
  516. # [18:40] * Zakim sees janina, dsinger on the speaker queue
  517. # [18:40] <plh> s/about this/about WebSRT/
  518. # [18:40] <adrianba> ...consternation in media sub-group and main tf that this kind of text adds to the work load of the tf
  519. # [18:40] <adrianba> ...when people know we are already working on this and in process of providing input
  520. # [18:40] <adrianba> ...concerned not following good w3c process
  521. # [18:40] <plh> s/because of/because of captioning format/
  522. # [18:40] <adrianba> ...tf want to object
  523. # [18:40] <MikeSmith> zakim, mute mike
  524. # [18:40] <Zakim> Mike should now be muted
  525. # [18:40] <adrianba> rubys: we have a decision process, we should follow it - that starts with a bug
  526. # [18:41] <adrianba> ...bug could be rip out the following because it's not ready yet
  527. # [18:41] <adrianba> ...not taking a position on the topic - just saying that if this is known as an issue let's have someone write up the bug
  528. # [18:41] <adrianba> janina: i'm going to find someone to open the bug
  529. # [18:41] <adrianba> rubys: thanks
  530. # [18:41] <adrianba> plh: i'm reluctant to open bug because i will be part of process to resolve
  531. # [18:42] <adrianba> rubys: bug will require ian to say why he wants to leave it
  532. # [18:42] <adrianba> ...he will provide the rationale
  533. # [18:42] <adrianba> janina: concern is meanwhile while it is there people will start to build
  534. # [18:42] <adrianba> ...felt to be unfortunate on the part of people in the tf including developers
  535. # [18:42] <adrianba> rubys: encourage you not to wait
  536. # [18:43] <rubys> ack next
  537. # [18:43] * Zakim sees janina at the head of the speaker queue
  538. # [18:43] * Zakim sees dsinger on the speaker queue
  539. # [18:43] <rubys> ack next
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  542. # [18:43] <adrianba> dsinger: very quickly, not sure what the concern is
  543. # [18:43] <adrianba> ...don't think we can mandate srt
  544. # [18:43] <adrianba> ...anyone that implements text captioning will do srt because of the content out there
  545. # [18:43] <JF> not talking about SRT, but rather WebSRT
  546. # [18:43] <adrianba> ...not sure why we should have a debate on srt
  547. # [18:43] <adrianba> plh: problem is defining srt in html5
  548. # [18:44] <adrianba> dsinger: why would we want to do that?
  549. # [18:44] <adrianba> plh: what is in the spec not only defines srt but also extensions to srt
  550. # [18:44] <adrianba> dsinger: okay i missed that
  551. # [18:44] <Laura> 4.8.10.11 WebSRT
  552. # [18:44] <Laura> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/video.html#websrt
  553. # [18:44] <pimpbot> Title: 4.8.6 The video element HTML 5 (at dev.w3.org)
  554. # [18:44] <mattmay> q+
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  556. # [18:44] <adrianba> plh: my concerns is that from the scope of the group, will have a hard time justifying this being in scope
  557. # [18:44] <rubys> ack next
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  560. # [18:44] <adrianba> dsinger: i agree, i don't think it is
  561. # [18:45] <adrianba> mattmay: there has been a subgroup dedicated to filling this hole
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  563. # [18:45] <adrianba> ...the editor knows this work is going on
  564. # [18:45] <adrianba> ...difference between filing a bug against something already there and adding text while work is going on
  565. # [18:45] <JF> +1 with Matt
  566. # [18:46] <adrianba> ...unfortunate that this happened this way
  567. # [18:46] <adrianba> plh: don't think anyone is making technical judgement on websrt
  568. # [18:46] <adrianba> rubys: people are concerned about process
  569. # [18:46] <adrianba> ...if people want to remove it that might be fine - we just want to document this - we might need to change decision process
  570. # [18:46] <adrianba> ...start with a bug
  571. # [18:47] <adrianba> ...does everyone understand how to proceed?
  572. # [18:47] <adrianba> janina: i'm clear and i agree with your last statement
  573. # [18:47] <rubys> ack next
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  576. # [18:47] <adrianba> rubys: this was about document publishing candidates
  577. # [18:47] <pimpbot> planet: Getting ready for learn html5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2782582/getting-ready-for-learn-html5> ** Web 2.0 Expo Browser Panel <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/h-vyMw2Vt6g/web-2-0-expo-browser-panel>
  578. # [18:47] <adrianba> ...anything else on this?
  579. # [18:47] <adrianba> TOPIC: Other Business
  580. # [18:48] <MikeSmith> q?
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  582. # [18:48] <rubys> ack next
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  585. # [18:48] <adrianba> rubys: anything else to talk about?
  586. # [18:48] <adrianba> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting
  587. # [18:48] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  588. # [18:48] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/06-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  589. # [18:48] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 06 May 2010 (at www.w3.org)
  590. # [18:48] <adrianba> rubys: i will volunteer
  591. # [18:48] <adrianba> TOPIC: Adjournment
  592. # [18:48] <Zakim> -Matt
  593. # [18:48] <Zakim> -Plh
  594. # [18:48] <adrianba> rubys: meeting adjourned, thanks everyone
  595. # [18:48] <Zakim> -Sam
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  611. # [18:49] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/06-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
  612. # [18:49] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 06 May 2010 (at www.w3.org)
  613. # [18:49] <adrianba> rrsagent, make logs public
  614. # [18:49] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, adrianba
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  642. # [22:48] <pimpbot> planet: Will adopting an html5 semantic structure improve my SERP rank? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2784194/will-adopting-an-html5-semantic-structure-improve-my-serp-rank>
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  648. # [23:49] <pimpbot> planet: CSS Page Layout w/ Breaks <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2784669/css-page-layout-w-breaks>
  649. # [23:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9673] Remove any reference to a specific Time Stamp format for video captioning from the specification at this time" (4 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0247.html>
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