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  4. # [00:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12862] New: DOMElementMap IDL getter return type incorrect <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0056.html> ** [Bug 12861] New: HTMLOptionsCollection.add(wrongElementType) should throw <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0055.html> ** [Bug 12854] I am quite surprised to see that things such as the list of allowed values for the "rel" attribute of the "link" tag (aka. the l
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  7. # [00:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * cb885152a51a r6175 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) Clarify the <details> element's semantics.
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  9. # [01:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12863] New: Make HTMLDocument name getter return type object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0058.html> ** [Bug 12839] @id: Define how Unicode normalization affects the 'unique identifier' status <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0057.html>
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  14. # [01:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12864] New: HTMLMediaElement.addTextTrack return value not specified <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0062.html> ** [Bug 12267] <video> Make video state transitions happen in the same task as firing events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0061.html> ** [Bug 12664] Warn about the perils of registering event handlers after <video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Pub
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  17. # [02:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 03ca053766d9 r6176 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) Add a note about HAVE_METADATA vs HAVE_CURRENT_DATA
  18. # [02:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * de2c02fae0da r6177 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) More notes about video.readyState.
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  20. # [02:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12076] <video> Recast WebVTT parser so that it first does line breaking then handles each line, instead of being character-oriented <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0070.html> ** [Bug 12043] <video> For better compatibility with .SRT, could the FULL STOP be replaced with a COMMA? So instead of 00:00:00.000 it would be 00:00:00,000 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0069.h
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  31. # [02:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 650fb68886a7 r6178 / (index complete.html source): [giow] (0) Fix the 'potentially playing' mess I made back in Feb.
  32. # [02:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 1dcd2107cd44 r6179 / (index complete.html source):
  33. # [02:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: [] (0) Explicitly say that ranges are inclusive.
  34. # [02:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12186
  35. # [02:33] <pimpbot> 12186: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> Should explicitly state that TimeRanges.end() is inclusive, so that if the browser reverts to HAVE_METADATA while playing, the .buffered.end(0) value is the last rendered frame, and .currentTime is the next frame, and so that when .ended
  36. # [02:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12141] <video> Specifically state that all <track> options be exposed to the end user <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0076.html> ** [Bug 12195] <video> canplay event is fired long before one can play in any meaningful way <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0075.html> ** "[Bug 12186] <video> Should explicitly state that TimeRanges.end() is inclusive, so that if the b
  37. # [02:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 7368095f6d68 r6180 / (index complete.html source): [giow] (0) Oops. Enabling the chapters track shouldn't override <track default> on a subtitle track.
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  40. # [03:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Prevent it from being possible to have seeked to after the end of an infinite stream that suddenly stops being infinite.
  41. # [03:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12191
  42. # [03:03] <pimpbot> 12191: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> The spec doesn't currently seem to handle the situation of seeking to a point beyond the end of a presumed-infinite stream, whether by advancing monotonically to that point or arbitrarily seeking to that point.
  43. # [03:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12848] "Subtitle" I am deaf. I love html5, it is wonderful tool. One problem with html5 video is no subtitle or closed caption. I would like you to add feature that all html5 video support closed caption subtitle. We can add file of subtitle to website with htnm <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0084.html> ** "[Bug 12191] <video> The spec doesn't currently seem to handle the situation of seeking to a point
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  51. # [03:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * c9f32c2eb363 r6182 / (index complete.html source):
  52. # [03:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) A first attempt at an example for a WebVTT file.
  53. # [03:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12192
  54. # [03:33] <pimpbot> 12192: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> Would be great to see a sample .vtt file!
  55. # [03:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12868] New: Allow placeholder for color, date+, and number types <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0088.html> ** "[Bug 12192] <video> Would be great to see a sample .vtt file!" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0087.html> ** [Bug 12867] New: Hidden with autofocus <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0085.html>
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  63. # [04:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12141] <video> Specifically state that all <track> options be exposed to the end user <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0090.html> ** [Bug 11842] <video> Default track enabling for video elements seems to miss a qualifier <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0089.html>
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  67. # [04:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12869] New: Window name getter return type should be more specific <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0091.html>
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  70. # [05:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12870] New: Minor issues with WindowTimers domintro section and timeout argument handling <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0092.html>
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  74. # [05:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12872] New: PeerConnection configuration argument should be serverConfiguration for consistency <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0094.html> ** [Bug 12871] New: DataTransferItem has inconsistent indenting <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0093.html>
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  76. # [06:04] <pimpbot> planet: Mark: The unofficial guide to migrating Google Rich Snippets to schema.org <http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/02/schema-org>
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  84. # [07:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12043] <video> For better compatibility with .SRT, could the FULL STOP be replaced with a COMMA? So instead of 00:00:00.000 it would be 00:00:00,000 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0097.html> ** [Bug 12854] I am quite surprised to see that things such as the list of allowed values for the "rel" attribute of the "link" tag (aka. the list of link types) as well as the list of allowed values for the "name"
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  90. # [09:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12878] New: Master pages wanted eagerly <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0103.html> ** [Bug 12877] New: remove section 3.11 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0102.html> ** [Bug 12876] New: suggestion for Example 6.4 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0101.html> ** [Bug 12875] New: remove the link *Providing a text alternative t
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  97. # [09:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12854] I am quite surprised to see that things such as the list of allowed values for the "rel" attribute of the "link" tag (aka. the list of link types) as well as the list of allowed values for the "name" attribute of the "meta" tag are supposed to be listed o <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0105.html> ** [Bug 12878] Master pages wanted eagerly <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzil
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  103. # [11:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12879] New: Object does not support the property in internet explorer. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0110.html> ** [Bug 12864] HTMLMediaElement.addTextTrack return value not specified <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0109.html> ** [Bug 12878] Master pages wanted eagerly <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0108.html> ** [Bug
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  107. # [11:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12877] remove section 3.11 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0115.html> ** [Bug 12876] suggestion for Example 6.4 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0114.html> ** [Bug 12875] remove the link *Providing a text alternative that is not null. (e.g., alt="spacer" or alt="image") for images that should be ignored by assistive technology [WCAG20-TECHS]*. <http://lists.w3.
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  109. # [12:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12726] Document should be on the Note-track <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0118.html> ** [Bug 12776] Define process for deciding whether a draft is REC-track or Note-track <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0117.html> ** [Bug 12726] Document should be on the Note-track <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0116.html>
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  115. # [13:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12727] Contradicts HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0119.html>
  116. # [13:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12728] This is not the proper WG for this document <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0120.html>
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  122. # [14:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12854] I am quite surprised to see that things such as the list of allowed values for the "rel" attribute of the "link" tag (aka. the list of link types) as well as the list of allowed values for the "name" attribute of the "meta" tag are supposed to be listed o <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0122.html> ** [Bug 8898] please make title element optional if higher-level protocol provides similar informatio
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  125. # [15:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12141] <video> Specifically state that all <track> options be exposed to the end user <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0123.html>
  126. # [15:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12880] I think the boolean attributes are generally a bad idea in HTML5 given that the intended bare syntax can't be represented in the XML syntax, and that you're effectively encouraging people to break XML compatibility for no good reason. So I'm not happy to <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0126.html> ** [Bug 12881] New: "is expected to hide it" is a bit vague. Clarify that it means display:none. <h
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  129. # [16:07] <CIA-1> validator: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 7d4b47a5aeca r645 syntax/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/LinkRel.java: Refresh values from the rel registry.
  130. # [16:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12880] I think the boolean attributes are generally a bad idea in HTML5 given that the intended bare syntax can't be represented in the XML syntax, and that you're effectively encouraging people to break XML compatibility for no good reason. So I'm not happy to <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0129.html> ** [Bug 12882] <b> and <strong> should be "font-weight: bolder" (both logically and to match the CSS2
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  138. # [17:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12835] FIGCAPTION should be allowed to NOT be exactly first/last child of FIGURE ("The figcaption element" spec section) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0130.html>
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  146. # [19:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12154] b and strong are font-weight: bolder in implementations, not font-weight: bold <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0133.html> ** [Bug 12882] <b> and <strong> should be "font-weight: bolder" (both logically and to match the CSS2 default stylesheet) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0132.html> ** [Bug 12858] This doesn't actually define "align descendants". It say
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  154. # [20:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12154] b and strong are font-weight: bolder in implementations, not font-weight: bold <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0138.html> ** [Bug 12728] This is not the proper WG for this document <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0137.html> ** [Bug 12726] Document should be on the Note-track <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0136.html>
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  159. # [21:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12877] remove section 3.11 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0142.html> ** [Bug 12876] suggestion for Example 6.4 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0143.html> ** [Bug 12875] remove the link *Providing a text alternative that is not null. (e.g., alt="spacer" or alt="image") for images that should be ignored by assistive technology [WCAG20-TECHS]*. <http://lists.w3.
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  161. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Try to clean up the stuff about Unicode characters.
  162. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12100
  163. # [21:48] <pimpbot> 12100: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, UAs do not actually convert DOMStrings to sequences of Unicode characters. Test case: data:text/html,<!doctype html><script>document.documentElement.title = "\ud800"; alert(document.documentElement.title.charCodeAt(0));</script> Expected 65533, got 5529
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  172. # [22:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12100] UAs do not actually convert DOMStrings to sequences of Unicode characters. Test case: data:text/html,<!doctype html><script>document.documentElement.title = "\ud800"; alert(document.documentElement.title.charCodeAt(0));</script> Expected 65533, got 5529" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0145.html>
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  181. # [22:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Make structured clone handle getters.
  182. # [22:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12101
  183. # [22:33] <pimpbot> 12101: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, "Structured clone" can be passed an object with a hostile getter that returns an object identical to itself; "structured clone" does not prevent such an infinite regression.
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  186. # [22:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0149.html> ** "[Bug 12101] "Structured clone" can be passed an object with a hostile getter that returns an object identical to itself; "structured clone" does not prevent such an infinite regression." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0148.html> ** [Bug 12884] Ne
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