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  17. # [03:08] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/97ff321b55cdbabbe754a7f5863d5cce8af3b44d
  18. # [03:08] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 97ff321 ianh: [e] (0) Embrace the Encodings specification....
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  46. # [09:54] <darobin> MikeSmith: do you know why public-rdfa-wg is cloning a million of our bugs?
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  54. # [10:30] <MikeSmith> darobin: that was me just adding comments to those bugs, per the discussion we've had with the chairs
  55. # [10:32] <MikeSmith> I had earlier set my login details to spoof the public-rdfa-wg@w3.org so that I could set the e-mail perms for it
  56. # [10:32] <MikeSmith> but I forgot to un-spoof from it before I added the comments to those bugs
  57. # [10:34] <MikeSmith> (and the reason I had been spoofing it to begin with was that I needed to add it to the default Cc for the HTML+RDFa component, since that's been moved out of the HTML WG and into the RDFa WG)
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  59. # [10:37] <darobin> MikeSmith: yes, I figured that out as I got to the rest of my email and saw the clones coming from the real you :)
  60. # [10:37] <MikeSmith> ah OK
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  88. # [15:19] <Stevef> darobin: how do i ensure that my fork of html stays up to date, i now have a detached head for some reason?
  89. # [15:20] <darobin> Stevef: sorry, phone, will get back to you in a few minutes
  90. # [15:20] <Stevef> darobin: no rush
  91. # [15:20] <darobin> Stevef: https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork
  92. # [15:30] <darobin> Stevef: a detached head happens in a number of cases though, e.g. processing conflicts in a rebase that sort of stuff
  93. # [15:36] <Stevef> OK thanks!
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  96. # [15:49] <darobin> Stevef: tell me if you manage to come back from it
  97. # [15:49] <darobin> (normally when git moves you to headless, it tells you)
  98. # [15:50] <Stevef> will do,a good reason to give me write access to the repo direct, to avoid such stuff, or maybe not...
  99. # [15:52] <darobin> hehe
  100. # [15:52] <darobin> you'll be able to break it :)
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  102. # [15:52] <darobin> Stevef: you on something unixish or windows?
  103. # [15:52] <Stevef> widows
  104. # [15:52] <Stevef> remeber the line ending issue...
  105. # [15:53] <darobin> ah, prolly can't help you then
  106. # [15:53] <darobin> (though maybe if you have the Unix toolset)
  107. # [15:53] <Stevef> may end up just blowing fork away and starting again
  108. # [15:53] <darobin> heh
  109. # [15:54] <darobin> Stevef: in case it has a windows equivalent, I have this:
  110. # [15:54] <darobin> PS1='\[\e[32;1;40m\] \h \[\e[0m\][\A]\[\e[31;40m\] \W \[\033[37m\]`git branch 2> /dev/null | GREP_OPTIONS="" grep -e ^* | sed -E s/^\\\\\*\ \(.+\)$/\(\\\\\1\)/` \[\e[0m\]$ '
  111. # [15:54] <darobin> that puts the current branch in my prompt
  112. # [15:54] <Stevef> OK will check it out
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  135. # [17:58] <mjs> hi everyone
  136. # [17:58] <mjs> do we have anyone prepared to scribe?
  137. # [17:58] <cabanier> no
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  140. # [17:59] <mjs> is anyone willing to volunteer?
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  144. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-html-wg-irc
  145. # [18:00] <mjs> Zakim, this is HTML
  146. # [18:00] <Zakim> HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM, mjs
  147. # [18:00] <mjs> Zakim, this is HTML_WG
  148. # [18:00] <Zakim> ok, mjs; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
  149. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  150. # [18:00] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  151. # [18:00] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aaaa
  152. # [18:01] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aabb
  153. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  156. # [18:02] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  157. # [18:02] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  158. # [18:02] <paulc> late joining since I have a telephone tech here trying to fix a line problem
  159. # [18:02] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  160. # [18:02] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  161. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Mike
  162. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  163. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  164. # [18:03] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  165. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  166. # [18:03] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.a is me
  167. # [18:03] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  168. # [18:03] <mjs> can everyone hear me? I’m talking but no one is responding
  169. # [18:03] <janina> Cannot hear you, Maciej!
  170. # [18:03] <mjs> I’ll try redialing
  171. # [18:04] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aabb
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  173. # [18:04] <Zakim> +christian
  174. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  175. # [18:04] <Eliot> zakim, microsoft.a has me
  176. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  177. # [18:05] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aacc
  178. # [18:05] <janina> Yes!
  179. # [18:05] <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aacc is me?
  180. # [18:05] <Zakim> +me?; got it
  181. # [18:05] <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aacc is me
  182. # [18:05] <Zakim> sorry, mjs, I do not recognize a party named '+1.415.595.aacc'
  183. # [18:05] <jaymunro> what's involved with scribing?
  184. # [18:05] <mjs> Zakim, me? is me
  185. # [18:05] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
  186. # [18:05] <cabanier> you type what people say
  187. # [18:06] <cabanier> I can send minutes Jay
  188. # [18:06] <cabanier> scribenick: jaymunro
  189. # [18:07] <edoyle> zakim, Microsoft.a has me
  190. # [18:07] <Zakim> +edoyle; got it
  191. # [18:07] <jaymunro> ok
  192. # [18:07] <jaymunro> action items due by 1/24/13 - none
  193. # [18:07] * trackbot is creating a new ACTION.
  194. # [18:07] <trackbot> Error finding 'items'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/users>.
  195. # [18:08] <jaymunro> New issues this week:
  196. # [18:08] <mjs> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
  197. # [18:08] <jaymunro> topic:
  198. # [18:09] <jaymunro> five tracking items
  199. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  200. # [18:09] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  201. # [18:09] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  202. # [18:09] <jaymunro> first item is for poliglot spec.
  203. # [18:10] <jaymunro> blog 282, microdata that is currently being surveyed. the preference poll closes today
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  205. # [18:10] <jaymunro> tracker bug - request to add an identifyer
  206. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  207. # [18:10] <jaymunro> proposed an extension spec, could be published,
  208. # [18:11] <jaymunro> tracker bug - change to the drag and drop processing model, A newly tracker requested model. not investigated completed.
  209. # [18:11] <jaymunro> an extension requst could be a solution
  210. # [18:11] <Marcos> zakim, what's the passcode?
  211. # [18:11] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Marcos
  212. # [18:11] <mjs> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15213
  213. # [18:12] <jaymunro> TOPIC:
  214. # [18:12] <cabanier> * jay, you need to start each sentence with the speaker *
  215. # [18:12] <jaymunro> items closed last week
  216. # [18:12] <jaymunro> MJS: topic items closed last week
  217. # [18:13] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  218. # [18:13] <jaymunro> closed 1/16/13 - adopted CfC: to publish Media Source Extensions specification as a First
  219. # [18:13] <jaymunro> Public Working Draft (FPWD)
  220. # [18:13] <Zakim> +yoav
  221. # [18:13] <mjs> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/microdata-status-preference-poll/
  222. # [18:14] <jaymunro> MJS: Topic microdata notes vs recommendation track survey - closing later today.
  223. # [18:14] <jaymunro> MJS: If you have comments respond. 32 in favor of rec, 4 in favor of publishing as notes
  224. # [18:16] <jaymunro> MJS: item closing this week - responsive images. We have active work on two areas, and chairs decided to handle it consistenly.
  225. # [18:16] <jaymunro> MJS chairs are expected to close on it short.
  226. # [18:17] <jaymunro> MARK : what is it that the responsive images community group should do? or just wait
  227. # [18:17] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  228. # [18:17] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  229. # [18:17] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  230. # [18:17] <jaymunro> MJS: later in agenda will discuss - suggest we get back to that question later.
  231. # [18:17] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] has paulc
  232. # [18:17] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  233. # [18:17] <Marcos> s/MARK/MC/
  234. # [18:18] <jaymunro> MJS: items closing next week - none
  235. # [18:18] <Marcos> zaking, [IPcaller] is marcosc
  236. # [18:18] <Marcos> zakim, [IPcaller] is marcosc
  237. # [18:18] <Zakim> +marcosc; got it
  238. # [18:18] <jaymunro> MJS: item new calls this week - none
  239. # [18:18] <paulc> CfC on EME: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html
  240. # [18:18] <jaymunro> MJS: task force reports;
  241. # [18:19] <jaymunro> TOPIC: Testing task force
  242. # [18:19] <krisk> We met last week notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2013Jan/0006.html
  243. # [18:20] <jaymunro> Krisk: sync between git and w3c test site. people are fixing some broken test from move to GIT.
  244. # [18:20] <krisk> Working on getting sync between git -> http://www.w3c-test.org/
  245. # [18:20] <Zakim> + +1.613.287.aadd
  246. # [18:20] <jaymunro> PAULC: where is the definiteve test suite
  247. # [18:21] <jaymunro> Krisk: once it was moved to GIT it doesn't exist, but official test is under construction.
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  249. # [18:21] <jaymunro> when fixed up, will be moved to w3 test site. mike is working on it.
  250. # [18:21] <MikeSmith> it is going to take a little time yet to get the sync to w3c-test.org again
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  252. # [18:22] <jaymunro> PAULC: any significance to chinas block on the git test suite. W3c announced in a new host. Appears to be resolved.
  253. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> darobin and I are talking with the W3C systems team about how best to get the sync working
  254. # [18:22] <jaymunro> Krisk: this is the type of thing that we don't control when we've moved away from W3 resources.
  255. # [18:22] <jaymunro> MJS: TOPIC: accessiblity
  256. # [18:23] <jaymunro> taskforce
  257. # [18:23] <jaymunro> Janina: closing an old action items. a couple ofitems pending
  258. # [18:24] <paulc> q+
  259. # [18:24] * Zakim sees paulc on the speaker queue
  260. # [18:24] <mjs> ack paulc
  261. # [18:24] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  262. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> s/MJS: TOPIC:/Topic:/
  263. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  264. # [18:25] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  265. # [18:25] <jaymunro> Paulc: wanted to report back to the wg that when he sent transition request to chairs, someone pointed out what ARIA was in the document. Judy brewer suggested that there needs to be changes to answer question.
  266. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make logs public
  267. # [18:25] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, MikeSmith
  268. # [18:25] <jaymunro> maybe changes title "using ARIA in HTML", rather than just ARIA in HTML
  269. # [18:26] <jaymunro> JANINA: document requires some editing that were missing. It couldn't have been published anyway. Nothing substantial, but needs work.
  270. # [18:26] <jaymunro> PAULC: Asked editer to make changes and send back to WG when done:
  271. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> I will help more with getting the ARIA-in-HTML doc pubrules-ready. Sorry, it's my fault it's not yet, because I told Steve I would do it but was not able to make time yet. Will try to have it done tomorrow.
  272. # [18:27] <Zakim> +Tantek
  273. # [18:28] <tantek> zakim, mute tantek
  274. # [18:28] <Zakim> Tantek should now be muted
  275. # [18:28] <jaymunro> PAULC: perspective cfc for an extension spec - Long Mask or long decriptions in HTML.
  276. # [18:28] <jaymunro> there was one commenter that in our draft we didn't characterize their situation. Charles is going to clarify and then it can be forward to wg.
  277. # [18:29] <jaymunro> Action on charles to fix
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  279. # [18:29] <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/users>.
  280. # [18:29] <jaymunro> Paul:
  281. # [18:29] <jaymunro> what's the status on alt work
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  283. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> q+ to say the W3C webmaster told me we can't publish the MSE spec today, but he will publish it on Tuesday the 30th instead
  284. # [18:30] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  285. # [18:30] <jaymunro> Janina: I have a draft in my draft folder. Just need to get Yuris notes in
  286. # [18:30] <mjs> ack MikeSmith
  287. # [18:30] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say the W3C webmaster told me we can't publish the MSE spec today, but he will publish it on Tuesday the 30th instead
  288. # [18:30] <jaymunro> MJS : media task for
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  291. # [18:32] <jaymunro> PAUL: media source extensions - successfull call for extensions publication is immeninent. Task for alternates meeting and will try to close out the last 10 bugs
  292. # [18:32] <jaymunro> PAUL: encrypted media was mentioned. Task force requestred a CFC. - chairs will take up meeting next week.
  293. # [18:32] <jaymunro> MIKESMITH: mike: publication on tuesdays and thrusdays. We missed today, so we'll publsih on tuesday the 30th'
  294. # [18:32] <jaymunro> PAULC: thanks for the report.
  295. # [18:32] <jaymunro> MJS: Other business section
  296. # [18:32] <edoyle> s/Long Mask/longdesc/
  297. # [18:33] <jaymunro> MJS: a new round of publications- chairs will start a round of discussion for next batch of pubs.
  298. # [18:33] <jaymunro> MJS: we'll want a heartbeat soon. We've seen a few where the wds were last published in oct, so we'll want to publish them.
  299. # [18:34] <jaymunro> do we publish drafts that are in cr? Usually we don't because they drop back to wd.
  300. # [18:34] <jaymunro> W3c process recommends heart beat drafts for every doc that isn't in its end state.
  301. # [18:34] <jaymunro> one document needs to be published every 3 months.
  302. # [18:35] <paulc> See http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications for a description of our current publications and editors drafts.
  303. # [18:35] <paulc> q+
  304. # [18:36] * Zakim sees paulc on the speaker queue
  305. # [18:36] <jaymunro> the responsive images draft, pictures elements,appear to be ready. srcset not looking ready. Html5.1 and canvas potentially could be published.
  306. # [18:36] <tantek> q+ to mention CR and heartbeats
  307. # [18:36] * Zakim sees paulc, tantek on the speaker queue
  308. # [18:36] <jaymunro> MJS: Any comments?
  309. # [18:36] <tantek> zakim, unmute tantek
  310. # [18:36] <Zakim> Tantek should no longer be muted
  311. # [18:36] <paulc> HTML 5.1 and Canvas2D Level 2 were published in Dec 2012
  312. # [18:36] <jaymunro> PAULC: html5.1 and canvas were published in december
  313. # [18:37] <jaymunro> MJS: If we go as long as March, we would need new ones.
  314. # [18:38] <jaymunro> PAULC: we didn't publish extension guides, dev guide, etc in Dec with other heartbeats
  315. # [18:38] <jaymunro> paulc, why didn't we publish?
  316. # [18:39] <jaymunro> MIKESMITH: a lot of work to get docs ready, could have been that we minimized the on track ones that we have a deadline for.
  317. # [18:39] <MikeSmith> q?
  318. # [18:39] * Zakim sees paulc, tantek on the speaker queue
  319. # [18:40] <jaymunro> PAULC: our goal was to get drafts out. Oct published documents again, along with others.
  320. # [18:40] <mjs> ack paulc
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  322. # [18:40] <mjs> ack tantek
  323. # [18:40] <Zakim> tantek, you wanted to mention CR and heartbeats
  324. # [18:40] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  325. # [18:41] <jaymunro> TANTEK: quickly comment. good idea to continue heartbeats, to keep them up to date.
  326. # [18:41] <yoav> q+
  327. # [18:41] * Zakim sees yoav on the speaker queue
  328. # [18:42] <jaymunro> TANTEK: caveat, if substantial changes, we need to take it back to wd. leave it up to the editors that there are any substantial changes, but if are, publish heartbeat. Then drop to last call if big changes.
  329. # [18:42] <mjs> ack yoav
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  331. # [18:42] <jaymunro> YOAV: responsive images can move forward without waiting on srcset. The two can move forward indepenendly.
  332. # [18:43] <jaymunro> HOBER: I agree, they can be published independently
  333. # [18:43] <jaymunro> MJS: is srcset ready?
  334. # [18:44] <jaymunro> YOAV: would like to resolve bug 20176 first, on track to publish for next week.
  335. # [18:44] <tantek> zakim, mute tantek
  336. # [18:44] <Zakim> Tantek should now be muted
  337. # [18:44] <jaymunro> MJS: TOPIC: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary
  338. # [18:45] <paulc> I have to leave early. sorry.
  339. # [18:45] <hober> s/YOAV/HOBER/
  340. # [18:45] <jaymunro> MJS: Published last week. GIves overview of recent happenings in open web platform. Don't need to go through it now, but comments?
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  342. # [18:45] <jaymunro> MJS: Any other items on the agenda?
  343. # [18:45] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
  344. # [18:46] <jaymunro> MJS: Asking for volunteers to scribe?
  345. # [18:46] <Zakim> -yoav
  346. # [18:46] <Zakim> -marcosc
  347. # [18:46] <krisk> I can scribe
  348. # [18:46] <jaymunro> MJS: Krisk will scribe. (thank you)
  349. # [18:47] <Zakim> -hober
  350. # [18:47] <Zakim> -cabanier
  351. # [18:47] <Zakim> - +1.613.287.aadd
  352. # [18:47] <Zakim> -mjs
  353. # [18:47] <Zakim> -Tantek
  354. # [18:47] <Zakim> -??P19
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  356. # [18:47] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  357. # [18:47] <Zakim> -adrianba
  358. # [18:47] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  359. # [18:47] <Zakim> -christian
  360. # [18:47] <cabanier> rssagent, make minutes
  361. # [18:48] <jaymunro> RRSAgent, make minutes
  362. # [18:48] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-html-wg-minutes.html jaymunro
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  365. # [18:50] <cabanier> jaymunro: do you know how to send them out?
  366. # [18:50] <Zakim> -Mike
  367. # [18:50] <Zakim> -krisk
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  384. # [19:32] <Zakim> Attendees were cabanier, hober, ddorwin, +1.415.595.aaaa, +1.415.595.aabb, krisk, Mike, [Microsoft], jaymunro, christian, Eliot, mjs, edoyle, adrianba, Radhika_Roy, yoav, paulc,
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