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  62. # [17:58] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  63. # [17:58] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  65. # [17:58] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-html-wg-irc
  66. # [17:58] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  67. # [17:58] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  69. # [17:58] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  70. # [17:58] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
  71. # [17:58] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  72. # [17:58] <trackbot> Date: 22 January 2015
  73. # [17:58] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  74. # [17:58] <Zakim> +Sam
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  76. # [17:58] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  77. # [17:58] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
  78. # [17:58] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  79. # [17:58] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  80. # [17:58] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  81. # [17:58] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  82. # [17:58] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  83. # [17:58] <trackbot> Date: 22 January 2015
  84. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
  85. # [17:59] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
  86. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, meeting code?
  87. # [17:59] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
  88. # [17:59] <tantek> Zakim, this is HTML
  89. # [17:59] <Zakim> HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM, tantek
  90. # [17:59] <tantek> Zakim, this is HTML_WG
  91. # [17:59] <Zakim> tantek, this was already HTML_WG()12:00PM
  92. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, tantek; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
  93. # [17:59] <tantek> zakim, code?
  94. # [17:59] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), tantek
  95. # [18:00] * rubys notes that 4865 is "H" "T" "M" "L"
  96. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim is not answering the phone
  97. # [18:00] <rubys> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0006.html
  98. # [18:00] <rubys> I'm on
  99. # [18:00] * tantek is also having trouble having zakim answer.
  100. # [18:01] <Zakim> +??P13
  101. # [18:01] <tantek> zakim, ??p13 is me
  102. # [18:01] <Zakim> +tantek; got it
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  104. # [18:02] <Zakim> +??P1
  105. # [18:02] <janina> zakim, ??P1 is me
  106. # [18:02] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  107. # [18:02] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  108. # [18:02] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  109. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  110. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Plh
  111. # [18:02] <paulc> MSFT VOIP will not ring Zakim's phone number.
  112. # [18:03] <rubys> paulc: let me know if I should chair.
  113. # [18:03] <paulc> You should start without me once you have critical mass. I will keep trying to phone in.
  114. # [18:03] <paulc> If the meeting starts without me I may try on my cell phone. But I don't want to Chair if I am using my cell phone. Thanks Sam.
  115. # [18:04] <plh> scribe: plh
  116. # [18:04] <plh> Topic: Open action
  117. # [18:04] <plh> action-249?
  118. # [18:04] * trackbot is looking up action-249.
  119. # [18:04] <trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
  120. # [18:04] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
  121. # [18:04] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  122. # [18:04] * Zakim sees on the phone: Sam, tantek, janina, [IPcaller], Plh
  123. # [18:05] * darobin dialling, Zakim not being friendly
  124. # [18:05] <plh> action-253?
  125. # [18:05] * trackbot is looking up action-253.
  126. # [18:05] <trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-01-23 -- OPEN
  127. # [18:05] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
  128. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
  129. # [18:05] * darobin ah!
  130. # [18:05] <plh> action-254?
  131. # [18:05] * trackbot is looking up action-254.
  132. # [18:05] <trackbot> action-254 -- Robin Berjon to Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load) -- due 2014-12-19 -- OPEN
  133. # [18:05] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/254
  134. # [18:06] <Zakim> + +1.613.295.aaaa
  135. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, [aaaa] is paulc
  136. # [18:06] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[aaaa]'
  137. # [18:06] <plh> action-254: this is pending implementors feedback
  138. # [18:06] * trackbot is adding a note to action-254.
  139. # [18:06] <trackbot> Notes added to action-254 Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load).
  140. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, aaaa is me
  141. # [18:06] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  142. # [18:07] <plh> plh: an other strategy could be to raise bugs
  143. # [18:07] <plh> robin: if we can divide the work
  144. # [18:09] <Zakim> +ShaneM
  145. # [18:09] <plh> robin: boris is one of the few people who answered
  146. # [18:09] * ShaneM is muted
  147. # [18:09] <plh> ... and gecko is the engine that has the fewest issues on the list
  148. # [18:09] <plh> ... for mozilla, it's bug related to document object in various context
  149. # [18:09] <tantek> is that this email? https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Jan/0000.html
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  151. # [18:10] <darobin> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22960
  152. # [18:10] <darobin> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19431
  153. # [18:11] <plh> Robin: if we could address those bugs, that would be improvements
  154. # [18:11] <plh> Paul: I just pinged travis again
  155. # [18:11] <plh> Tantek: are those implementation bugs?
  156. # [18:11] <plh> Robin: or spec bugs. no consensus on what to do in the spec because of lack of interop
  157. # [18:12] <plh> ... Anne proposed a solution but if no one is going to do the fix
  158. # [18:12] <plh> Tantek: is there a place to look at?
  159. # [18:12] <plh> Robin: in those 2 bugs
  160. # [18:13] <plh> Tantek: I can ping Boris on this
  161. # [18:13] <plh> Robin: getting interop on the document object would be useful
  162. # [18:13] <rubys> I added the two bugs to action-254
  163. # [18:13] <plh> ... other bugs are more minor
  164. # [18:14] <plh> action-249?
  165. # [18:14] * trackbot is looking up action-249.
  166. # [18:14] <trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
  167. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
  168. # [18:14] <plh> Robin: for this one, I was going to provide an update step by step
  169. # [18:14] <darobin> https://github.com/darobin/spork
  170. # [18:15] <plh> ... first step is to build the html spec again
  171. # [18:15] <plh> ... while handling synchronization nicely
  172. # [18:15] <plh> ... the tool is not ready for prime time but it works
  173. # [18:15] <plh> ... this will automate a lot of the work we had to do by hand
  174. # [18:15] * Zakim plh, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'
  175. # [18:16] <plh> ... we should be able to publish the html spec on a regular basis
  176. # [18:16] <plh> ... hoping to have a fair amount of time next week
  177. # [18:17] <plh> Robin: first step is to update html 5.1
  178. # [18:18] <plh> ... to make the landscape document more maintainable
  179. # [18:18] <plh> ... it will be generate from the tool as well
  180. # [18:18] <plh> action-253?
  181. # [18:18] * trackbot is looking up action-253.
  182. # [18:18] <trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-01-23 -- OPEN
  183. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
  184. # [18:19] <plh> Topic: Spring f2f location
  185. # [18:19] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
  186. # [18:19] <rubys> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-spring-2015/
  187. # [18:20] <plh> plh: please fill the poll
  188. # [18:20] * ShaneM notes that I tried to convince my daughter to spend her 18th birthday in Spain. She was not interested.
  189. # [18:21] <tantek> just answered the HTMLWG poll
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  191. # [18:22] * darobin just changed his answers to "No" and "No" :)
  192. # [18:22] <plh> Topic: A11y Task Force
  193. # [18:23] <plh> Janina: moving forward on new features for HTML: redesigh of accesskey, traqnscript
  194. # [18:23] <plh> ... there is wishlist of things that might get attention
  195. # [18:23] <plh> ... and the Group waits for Director's decsion on longdesc
  196. # [18:24] <plh> Topic: Media Task Force
  197. # [18:24] <plh> Paul: continuing discussion on EME
  198. # [18:24] <plh> ... high 20 bugs
  199. # [18:24] <plh> ... some folks appealed to finalize the naming bugs
  200. # [18:24] <plh> ... and we did so on Tuesday morning
  201. # [18:24] <plh> ... we're now ready to publish heartbeats for EME and MSE
  202. # [18:25] <plh> ... slow progress overall
  203. # [18:26] <plh> Topic: Canvas task force
  204. # [18:26] <plh> Sam: stalled on testing
  205. # [18:26] <plh> ... need to figure out next steps
  206. # [18:26] * darobin lost audio....
  207. # [18:26] <plh> ... we have implementations but we're short on tests
  208. # [18:26] <plh> ... Mark is busy elsewhere
  209. # [18:26] * darobin ah, back
  210. # [18:27] <plh> Topic: Editing task force
  211. # [18:27] <plh> Robin: not much happened in past two weeks
  212. # [18:28] <plh> ... question from Charles on accesskey and keyboard navigation
  213. # [18:28] <plh> Topic: Other business
  214. # [18:29] <plh> [none]
  215. # [18:29] <plh> Topic: Next week meeting
  216. # [18:29] <plh> Sam will chair next week
  217. # [18:30] <plh> Regrets from Robin
  218. # [18:30] <Zakim> -ShaneM
  219. # [18:30] <plh> Leonie volunteered to scribe
  220. # [18:31] <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
  221. # [18:31] <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
  222. # [18:31] <Zakim> -tantek
  223. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Sam
  224. # [18:31] <Zakim> -paulc
  225. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Plh
  226. # [18:31] <Zakim> -janina
  227. # [18:31] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  228. # [18:31] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, tantek, janina, [IPcaller], Plh, +1.613.295.aaaa, paulc, ShaneM
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  239. # [19:32] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  240. # [19:32] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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