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  1. # Session Start: Sun Mar 27 00:00:01 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
  3. # [00:00] <tw2113> i would have been around a bit earlier but i had to be in windows to site test in browsers
  4. # [00:02] <grantg> meanwhile in Japan: http://i.imgur.com/wgK4l.jpg
  5. # [00:03] <grantg> toon soon. :P
  6. # [00:03] <grantg> *too soon
  7. # [00:03] <grantg> :P
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  9. # [00:05] <tw2113> niftylettuce i'm curious what you need to talk to me about :P
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  11. # [00:05] <niftylettuce> tw2113: oye sorry
  12. # [00:06] <niftylettuce> tw2113: send a gchat invite to 'niftylettuce'
  13. # [00:06] <grantg> lol
  14. # [00:06] <grantg> chome is at 2 GB of mem
  15. # [00:06] <grantg> *chrome
  16. # [00:06] <grantg> 5 tabs
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  18. # [00:10] <grantg> win: http://i.imgur.com/8tobol.jpg
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  21. # [00:12] <tw2113> pizza sounds good right now
  22. # [00:15] <tw2113> paul_irish looks like another boilerplate site http://5stepstohtml5.com/
  23. # [00:15] <paul_irish> thx fo the heads up.
  24. # [00:16] <moshee> league gothic sure is getting popular
  25. # [00:16] <paul_irish> hahah
  26. # [00:16] <paul_irish> of course they link to w3schools
  27. # [00:16] <grantg> ...
  28. # [00:16] <paul_irish> this site is very weirdly constructed.
  29. # [00:16] <grantg> w3fools
  30. # [00:17] <grantg> saw a craigslist post asking for a webdev that received a w3schools cert
  31. # [00:17] <grantg> wtf
  32. # [00:17] <moshee> both arrows make it slide in the same direction
  33. # [00:18] <grantg> tw2113: Are they kidding?
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  35. # [00:18] <grantg> "for those of us who know XHTML"
  36. # [00:18] <grantg> yeah right
  37. # [00:18] <tw2113> it's something i found on facebook from the Smashing Magazine fan page or whatever
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  39. # [00:19] <grantg> 99+% of XHTML sites are just buggy HTML sites that think they're coding for some special form of XML when they're just doing HTML wrong.
  40. # [00:19] <grantg> they hath no idea of the application/xhtml+xml mime type...
  41. # [00:20] <themiddleman> heh so true grantg
  42. # [00:20] <grantg> :/
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  44. # [00:20] <grantg> In fact Internet Explorer 9 is the first version of IE to do application/xhtml+xml
  45. # [00:20] <grantg> just fyi. ^_^
  46. # [00:21] <tw2113> hey, it's after 6pm...not too early for a beer
  47. # [00:21] <grantg> so IE finally adopted XHTML, a decade late...
  48. # [00:21] <tw2113> IE9 updated them to last year
  49. # [00:22] <grantg> heh
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  51. # [00:23] <grantg> mozilla (even before firefox), webkit, opera, and others have supported true XHTML for a long time
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  53. # [00:23] <grantg> while you had to wait for IE9 to see it in IE
  54. # [00:24] <grantg> raege
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  56. # [00:25] <paul_irish> what he said ^
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  61. # [00:34] <grantg> awww yeeaaah
  62. # [00:34] <grantg> made a rage comic
  63. # [00:34] <grantg> http://i.imgur.com/LzcFT.png
  64. # [00:36] <grantg> paul_irish: Already made a reddit post
  65. # [00:36] <grantg> http://www.reddit.com/r/html5/comments/gc78o/xhtml/
  66. # [00:38] * tw2113 le upvote
  67. # [00:39] <grantg> hell yeah
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  74. # [00:49] <paul_irish> hah
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  76. # [00:49] <snover> grantg: awesome.
  77. # [00:49] <grantg> and yet full of WTF
  78. # [00:51] <moshee> what are your guys' thoughts on custom scroll bars
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  83. # [00:57] <tw2113> let the browser handle scroll bar appearance
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  87. # [01:04] * themiddleman wants pizza now
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  90. # [01:06] <paul_irish> same!
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  92. # [01:06] <tw2113> pizza and beer night
  93. # [01:06] <tw2113> i'll shut up before i make everyone kill me
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  106. # [01:40] <digitalfiz> any of you guys on the beta/dev versions of chrome?
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  112. # [01:51] <themiddleman> digitalfiz: i have chromium nightly
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  115. # [01:55] <digitalfiz> themiddleman, do the fonts for Information and Meta look fuzzy for you on http://digital-focus.us?
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  117. # [01:57] <themiddleman> digitalfiz: nope, look the same as ff
  118. # [01:57] <digitalfiz> weird
  119. # [01:57] <digitalfiz> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9463387/fuzzyfonts.png
  120. # [01:57] <digitalfiz> thats what it looks like for me
  121. # [01:57] <digitalfiz> im on 11.0.696.16 beta
  122. # [01:59] <digitalfiz> its the same way for me on my cr48
  123. # [01:59] <digitalfiz> its on 11.0.696.22
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  125. # [03:00] <tw2113> i should get a copy of chromium again
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  127. # [03:03] <snover> digitalfiz: just to add another data point, they show up normally for me as well running 11.0.696.16 / mac os
  128. # [03:03] <digitalfiz> wonder if its a linux issue with web fonts
  129. # [03:03] <snover> those are cufón-driven headers
  130. # [03:03] <snover> not woff
  131. # [03:03] <snover> please use woff ;)
  132. # [03:04] <digitalfiz> actually its arial it should be fine wth
  133. # [03:04] <snover> maybe canvas is busted.
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  136. # [03:05] <digitalfiz> im very new to html5 lol
  137. # [03:05] <themiddleman> digitalfiz: I am on ubuntu, so thats not the problem
  138. # [03:05] <digitalfiz> would it be easy to convert it from cufon to woff?
  139. # [03:06] <digitalfiz> ah themiddleman wonder whats wrong im on ubuntu too
  140. # [03:06] <digitalfiz> 64bit?
  141. # [03:06] <themiddleman> yeah
  142. # [03:06] <digitalfiz> very odd
  143. # [03:06] <digitalfiz> i think it might be a canvas problem
  144. # [03:06] <EoN> is there a way to specify the inner background colour for strokeText ?
  145. # [03:07] <digitalfiz> because that theme seems to replace some fonts with canvas for some reason
  146. # [03:08] <digitalfiz> hmm
  147. # [03:09] <digitalfiz> its google chrome only
  148. # [03:09] <digitalfiz> not chromium
  149. # [03:09] <digitalfiz> looks fine in chromium
  150. # [03:14] <digitalfiz> still doesnt explain why its messed up on my cr48
  151. # [03:14] <digitalfiz> its unbranded chromium os on the dev channel
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  162. # [04:08] <themiddleman> someone make an animation! nobody has yet http://middlerob.com/8bit/ also I would appreciate some feedback on it
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  176. # [06:06] <moshee> http://imgur.com/C7ERD.png anyone know why this happens?
  177. # [06:06] <moshee> opera website is the same in some places
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  203. # [07:47] <grantg> paul_irish: Found another V8 slowdown bug. :/
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  205. # [07:48] <grantg> I was changing out how I do memory writing from the emulated CPU core in the gameboy emu
  206. # [07:48] <grantg> Apparently doing a more direct write that doesn't require a proxy function fucks up google chrome badly
  207. # [07:49] <grantg> while firefox 4 makes no diff, actually a 1% CPU perf win
  208. # [07:49] <grantg> seems chrome fails to JIT func in array access when done directly
  209. # [07:50] <grantg> rather than using a catch-all func that does it for all the instances
  210. # [07:50] <grantg> where the catch all basically takes the address and data and then accesses the array[address](this, address, data)
  211. # [07:51] <grantg> inlining essentially is a 2x loss in perf in V8.
  212. # [07:51] <grantg> when it shouldn't.
  213. # [07:52] <grantg> probably due to V8 inlining the functions the array accesses, then realizing these are invalid...
  214. # [07:52] <grantg> i.e. too optimistic JIT
  215. # [07:53] <grantg> since the CPU load varies with the indice patterns, this must hold true
  216. # [07:54] <grantg> with the JIT cache going full retard in V8.
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  218. # [07:56] <grantg> paul_irish: Opera's JS engine is the opposite
  219. # [07:56] <grantg> way faster now
  220. # [07:56] <grantg> now opera wins over firefox and chrome when audio is off and there's no canvas scaling
  221. # [07:57] <grantg> Peter`: V8 has a lot of these WTF deoptimization bugs apparently.
  222. # [07:58] <grantg> hence why these narrow and selective benchmarks are moot.
  223. # [07:58] <grantg> V8 benchmark & sunspider, meh
  224. # [07:59] <grantg> of course you're going to be the fastest at something you optimized around.
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  226. # [08:06] <grantg> paul_irish: Google Chrome is officially back on my "slow as fuck" list. :(
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  229. # [08:09] <grantg> paul_irish: I'm not going to revert my inlining, because that's just silly and it improves perf in pretty much every other browser.
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  231. # [08:10] <grantg> because technically a general JIT would actually improve from less popping and pushing of the stack.
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  233. # [08:10] <grantg> for removing the proxy call
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  235. # [08:14] <grantg> http://grantgalitz.org/PokemonCrystal/ especially got hit in chrome
  236. # [08:14] <grantg> like 20% cpu usage increase
  237. # [08:14] <grantg> not to mention chrome still can't do 60 fps with putImageData and web audio is currently broken in chrome.
  238. # [08:14] <grantg> <.<
  239. # [08:15] <grantg> broken since it landed in chrome on January 31
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  242. # [08:21] <grantg> damn V8 struggles so much...
  243. # [08:22] <grantg> It's officially slightly slower than IE9
  244. # [08:22] <grantg> and slower than Opera, Safari, and Firefox
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  247. # [08:24] <grantg> heh, chrome also adds 10% CPU load for the real time clock it seems
  248. # [08:24] <grantg> even though it has a sample rate of 17 there
  249. # [08:24] <grantg> *17 ms
  250. # [08:24] <grantg> damn chrome is slow on emulating the RTC chip too. :/
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  253. # [08:45] <grantg> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77559
  254. # [08:45] <grantg> submitted
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  266. # [09:06] <grantg> teh internetz is too damn slow due to chrome.
  267. # [09:06] <grantg> :(
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  269. # [09:38] <themiddleman> lat me just say - FUCK YOU OPEAR
  270. # [09:38] <themiddleman> er OPERA
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  298. # [11:19] <IamTrying> The audio / video attribute is full duplex?
  299. # [11:19] <IamTrying> Does it allow SDL access?
  300. # [11:20] <moo-_-> SDL?
  301. # [11:21] <IamTrying> moo-_-, Can i do h.323 or Sip and use the audio/video attributes?
  302. # [11:22] <IamTrying> Allow the user to select which device to use for audio/video.
  303. # [11:22] <moo-_-> IamTrying: you cannot
  304. # [11:23] <moo-_-> IamTrying: why would browsers support SIP?
  305. # [11:23] <moo-_-> that's a calling protocol
  306. # [11:23] <IamTrying> I still dont understand html5 is lot of update. For object to audio/video but why they dont updated the most common decades protocols? And nor full duplex implementations?
  307. # [11:24] <moo-_-> IamTrying: patents
  308. # [11:24] <moo-_-> IamTrying: money?
  309. # [11:24] <moo-_-> IamTrying: cost?
  310. # [11:24] <moo-_-> :)
  311. # [11:24] <IamTrying> No, its as simple as Vorbis/Ogg codec they applied.
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  313. # [11:24] <moo-_-> IamTrying: you are free to take webkit engine and add a SIP plug-in for it yourself :)
  314. # [11:24] <moo-_-> IamTrying: after you do it yourself maybe you understand why others don't do it :)
  315. # [11:25] <IamTrying> moo-_-, i wrote my application i will put in browser. But thats not the case, html5 did so many update, but why they miss protocol and full duplex implementation.
  316. # [11:25] <IamTrying> Its very simple browser have the access.
  317. # [11:26] <IamTrying> Even embeded devices have it.
  318. # [11:26] <moo-_-> IamTrying: you probably underestimate the work of putting in new protocols to a browser
  319. # [11:26] <moo-_-> IamTrying: how many man years you believe it would take?
  320. # [11:26] <moo-_-> IamTrying: and then doing standard work on the top of that?
  321. # [11:26] <IamTrying> moo-_-, it took me 4 days to write my own SIP protocol + HD codecs.
  322. # [11:26] <IamTrying> moo-_-, and html5 team is so big.
  323. # [11:26] <moo-_-> IamTrying: it will probably be there in long run
  324. # [11:27] <moo-_-> IamTrying: join the team and propose SIP to be part of the standard
  325. # [11:27] <moo-_-> see how it goes
  326. # [11:28] <IamTrying> I want to write someone this proposal. Its to me useless people are dieing to embed Flash player to just have protocol which they can do with Html5 or html6 ?
  327. # [11:28] <moo-_-> IamTrying: join #whatwg channel. that's the spec working group.
  328. # [11:29] <moo-_-> IamTrying: they have also mailing lists
  329. # [11:29] <moo-_-> and probably have a process for accepting proposals
  330. # [11:29] <IamTrying> cool moo-_- thanks
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  341. # [12:08] <IamTrying> moo-_-, is this available already in html5?
  342. # [12:08] <bot-t> (8 mins 6 secs ago) <coldhead> tell IamTrying please PM me for cyber
  343. # [12:08] <moo-_-> IamTrying: I don't understand your question
  344. # [12:09] <IamTrying> https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-peer-peer-conversational-video
  345. # [12:09] <IamTrying> already exist, If yes, i need to participate myself how i can implement SIP stack on it.
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  347. # [12:12] <moo-_-> IamTrying: you need to write a browser plug-in in any case
  348. # [12:12] <moo-_-> I don't believe you can read and write SIP with mere Javascript and Websockets
  349. # [12:12] <moo-_-> Websockets are not real TCP/IP connecitons
  350. # [12:13] <Peter-> Same goes for protocols like IRC, it's a shame they cannot be used
  351. # [12:13] <Peter-> then again, there are certain security implications when exposing "raw" sockets to JavaScript
  352. # [12:14] <moo-_-> Peter-: I'd change IRC serves to support Websockets. That wouldn't be a big change is it is already line based protocol.
  353. # [12:14] <Peter-> It's not possible now, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if a "raw" flag would ever be added to WebSockets allowing it to adapt to any protocol
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  355. # [12:16] <Peter-> moo-_-: I would at least consider to do that as well. Regardless, widespread adoption still wouldn't be achievable if it requires modifying a ~20 year old protocol
  356. # [12:16] <IamTrying> I dont see any issue with this, Flash is doing this already/Silver light is doing this/ JavaFX doing this. And people need this now or later. Just having it in html5 is a speed gear instead of moving around with those virtual players.
  357. # [12:17] <IamTrying> Because not having RAW data packets, it reduce the quality for HD or Ultra HD audio/video implementations. Where i took a step building my own desktop version instance which communicate with html over javascript and sharedobject.
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  359. # [12:17] <Peter-> There'll be an entirely different API for that
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  361. # [12:18] <moo-_-> IamTrying: Flash has sockets, JavaFX has sockets, HTML5 doesn't have sockets
  362. # [12:18] <moo-_-> you cannot do it
  363. # [12:18] <moo-_-> at least without server-side proxy
  364. # [12:18] <IamTrying> They are doing it. https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-peer-peer-conversational-video
  365. # [12:18] <moo-_-> or modifications to SIP server
  366. # [12:19] <Peter-> I do agree it's a limitation
  367. # [12:19] <Peter-> the main problem is that WebSockets can be opened without the user's consent
  368. # [12:19] <moo-_-> IamTrying: that is not SIP
  369. # [12:19] <IamTrying> moo-_-, its the same its just a more header message or packets on it.
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  371. # [12:20] <moo-_-> IamTrying: I am pretty sure it cannot connect to a SIP server. Am I wrong?
  372. # [12:21] <IamTrying> Yes it cant connect to sip server, but behind the methods they are using already doing the SIP or H.323 implementation. SIP is just for handshake using RFC digest authentication or etc.
  373. # [12:21] <moo-_-> ah
  374. # [12:21] <moo-_-> nice
  375. # [12:21] <IamTrying> Its taking the hardware for audio/video and its already doing UDP or TCP peer to peer.
  376. # [12:22] <IamTrying> So i dont see any mistake yet why not SIP can be inside to this implementation.
  377. # [12:22] <moo-_-> "We're however in the process of contributing parts of the implementation to the WebKit project."
  378. # [12:22] <moo-_-> so it needs browser modifications still
  379. # [12:22] <Peter-> moo-_-: Ericsson is demonstrating the P2P/Stream/Device APIs there
  380. # [12:22] <moo-_-> IamTrying: I suggest you participate that working group
  381. # [12:23] <Peter-> which, indeed, are being committed to WebKit now
  382. # [12:23] <Peter-> though Google kindof hijacked the project
  383. # [12:24] <IamTrying> moo-_-, I have a policy server running which is a instance of java in desktop and from web browser i play html -> javascript -> flash object and -> over TCP/UDP i handshake to desktop port 9000 and send / recv raw data.
  384. # [12:24] <IamTrying> moo-_-, Browsers can do it in 5 minute.
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  386. # [12:25] <IamTrying> It would be odd, to have html5 but not having freedom to do such methods. Which reduce for next decades of less full duplex audio/video communications. Which still working from my end, just more process i applied.
  387. # [12:31] <moo-_-> IamTrying: that's very true!
  388. # [12:31] <moo-_-> but it is still a long run process
  389. # [12:31] <moo-_-> IamTrying: you need full-duplex also for gaming
  390. # [12:31] <IamTrying> exactly, yes
  391. # [12:32] <IamTrying> Specification means thumbs up, but we should have a raw access to modify it thats it, its done. ex: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/dnd.html#peerconnection-data-udp-media-stream
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  421. # [14:05] <iamadi> someone can help me with a strange html4/5/x behavior ?
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  423. # [14:09] <moo-_-> iamadi: please describe your problem according to these instructions http://blog.mfabrik.com/2011/03/17/rfc-simple-internet-question-asking-protocol-for-human-beings/
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  426. # [14:23] <iamadi> at http://www.12mm.net/html-test/ I have placed 3 files in different doctypes - actually in "html5" and "xhtml" I have a gray "space" below the picture and I can not get rid of it. in the "html4-trans" file there is no such gray space. how can i get rid of that in xhtml or html5?
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  429. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> img { display: block; } or img { vertical-align: bottom; }
  430. # [14:37] <iamadi> "display: block" helped - thank you
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  444. # [15:44] <moo-_-> was there work for better WYSIWYG?
  445. # [15:44] <moo-_-> what it is called?
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  455. # [16:54] <speakman> I've got a <button> with a static width: 120px and height: 120px. I'm using a gradient background already, and I've got an <img> element inside centered horizontally. But how do I center it vertically as well?
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  457. # [16:56] <speakman> button > img { vertial-align: middle; } to answer myself. :D
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  490. # [18:39] <lonimurar> does opera (9 or other versions) have problems with a html5 doctype?
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  503. # [19:19] <paul_irish> lonimurar: no one uses opera 9.
  504. # [19:19] <paul_irish> and no.
  505. # [19:19] <lonimurar> I suppose I should upgrade :x
  506. # [19:20] <paul_irish> yeah.
  507. # [19:20] <lonimurar> only ever use it for testing though
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  511. # [19:32] <mikesusz> i know it's a css3 question... but anyone seeing horrible scrolling performance with inner box shadows in chrome?
  512. # [19:38] <moo-_-> mikesusz: generally box shadows cause rendering performance issues
  513. # [19:39] <moo-_-> mikesusz: I think you can take down a browser by defining overwide shadow. FF4 set hard cap to 200px radius.
  514. # [19:39] <mikesusz> moo-_- yeah i've never seen it this bad tho. i'll also check out using background stopped gradients instead
  515. # [19:40] <moo-_-> mikesusz: I'd suspect it might drop from hw accelerated rendering to software, triggering the issue
  516. # [19:40] <mikesusz> moo-_- - or an alpha png24 like i have it currently. :/
  517. # [19:41] <mikesusz> which, hey, would work in ie7/8 also. :P
  518. # [19:41] <moo-_-> mikesusz: naaaah.... :)
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  529. # [20:14] <grantg> Peter`: Since chrome apparently is worse than firefox, opera, safari, and IE9 with JS execution on my stuff right now, I restructured my GBC emu to optimize for switch inlining JITs.
  530. # [20:14] <grantg> which firefox 4 at least does
  531. # [20:14] <grantg> https://github.com/grantgalitz/GameBoy-Online/commit/8b584baf81a4a0d21a779ef4d9df0bcf8e084a04
  532. # [20:15] <grantg> basically the entire way the opcodes are executed has been changed
  533. # [20:16] <grantg> from func in array to switch
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  535. # [20:16] <zewt> heh, a code gen challenge in there: a code generator that can output code structured in different ways, with runtime benchmarking to figure out which style works best on the user's browser
  536. # [20:17] <zewt> that would qualify as a ... pain in the ass
  537. # [20:17] <grantg> chrome: Y U JIT horribly?
  538. # [20:17] <grantg> heh
  539. # [20:17] <grantg> thank god I had the switch-based version from my java emu
  540. # [20:17] <grantg> :P
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  542. # [20:19] <zewt> heh also, you could codegen javascript from opcodes ... JIT javascript
  543. # [20:19] <zewt> JIT for JIT: meta-JIT!
  544. # [20:19] <grantg> zewt: no
  545. # [20:19] <zewt> heh :P
  546. # [20:19] <grantg> dynarec of the cpu opcodes is out of the question
  547. # [20:19] <grantg> you could, but it would be slow
  548. # [20:20] <grantg> tried it, meh
  549. # [20:20] <grantg> where you inline the opcodes up until an IRQ is serviced
  550. # [20:20] <grantg> and cache the inlining
  551. # [20:21] <grantg> the prob is there are too many IRQs happening all the time.
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  553. # [20:21] <zewt> javascript isn't exactly an ideal language for emulation, heh
  554. # [20:22] <zewt> nor any high-level language
  555. # [20:22] <grantg> heh
  556. # [20:22] <zewt> i was surprised to see people getting emulation to work at all
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  559. # [20:23] <grantg> I need to put up an opcode test build
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  563. # [20:23] <zewt> build a ROM to do it?
  564. # [20:24] <grantg> no, I have a rom
  565. # [20:24] <mokush> you guys, how the hell can I conver this '20090623' into a date obj?
  566. # [20:24] <grantg> I mean put up a page to test it
  567. # [20:25] <zewt> regex match + new Date
  568. # [20:26] <mokush> zewt: I suck at regex :(
  569. # [20:26] <grantg> http://www.grantgalitz.org/cpu_test/
  570. # [20:27] <grantg> heh
  571. # [20:27] <grantg> funny
  572. # [20:28] <grantg> so many GBC emus fail this test ROM
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  574. # [20:28] <grantg> yay, I'm passing
  575. # [20:28] <grantg> [again]
  576. # [20:29] <grantg> KiGB, gnuboy, VBA (I think), JavaBoy, MeBoy fail it
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  579. # [20:30] <grantg> zewt: Most fail the half-carry flag computation for "ADD SP, n" and a few others
  580. # [20:31] <grantg> since they align computing the half-carry by the top nibble, when it's really the top-nibble of the low byte
  581. # [20:31] <grantg> cpu flag computation massive trolling from nintendo.
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  585. # [20:46] <grantg> still waiting on http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77559
  586. # [20:46] <grantg> :/
  587. # [20:47] <zewt> you mean they havn't updated their javascript engine in over 12 hours? what are they waiting for
  588. # [20:47] <grantg> heh
  589. # [20:48] <grantg> I mean no comments there
  590. # [20:48] <grantg> besides mine
  591. # [20:49] <grantg> heh, I always find it funny when a browser optimizes for its own benchmark
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  593. # [20:49] <grantg> then says it's faster than everyone else.
  594. # [20:49] <grantg> IE9 optimized specifically for sunspider
  595. # [20:49] <grantg> chrome optimized for v8 benchmark
  596. # [20:50] <grantg> or rather might have wirtten v8 benchmark to show off v8's specific optimizations
  597. # [20:50] <grantg> *written
  598. # [20:50] <grantg> and mozilla did kraken
  599. # [20:50] <grantg> heh
  600. # [20:51] <grantg> benchmark wtf
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  632. # [21:50] <themiddleman> w00t!!!!!!!! http://js1k.com/2011-dysentery/demo/915
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