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27. # [00:40] <David_Bradbury> Should I worry about setting a 'fallback' font in canvas if I've loaded a font via CSS?
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33. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> hello
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35. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> please have a look at this
36. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> http://www.irc-catalunya.tv/vp8/tsf2012.html
37. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> this works
38. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> and exactly the same code for mp4 doesn't:
39. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> http://www.irc-catalunya.tv/vp8/10284.html
40. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> i added the mp4 filetype in apache too and restarted
41. # [00:52] <PRAEDO> what am i doing wrong?
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51. # [01:13] <jacine> paul_irish: ping :)
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53. # [01:13] <chipnt> jacine, pm ?
54. # [01:13] <jacine> chipnt: hi, sure :)
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58. # [01:16] <paul_irish> jacine: sup
59. # [01:16] <jacine> paul_irish: hey! question for ya.
60. # [01:16] <paul_irish> yaa
61. # [01:16] <jacine> paul_irish: I see you committed this: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/6485 and I was wondering if you had any idea when it'll be released.
62. # [01:17] <jacine> paul_irish: We need something in Drupal 8, and can wait a little while, but not too long… So I'm wondering if we should commit the shiv and revert later, or just wait.
63. # [01:17] <paul_irish> hmm
64. # [01:18] <jacine> :)
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66. # [01:18] <cocoadaemon> paul_irish: just watched your video on Ontwik, it's great
67. # [01:18] <paul_irish> which?
68. # [01:18] <cocoadaemon> html5, CSS3 and DOM Perf
69. # [01:18] <paul_irish> oh cool! thx
70. # [01:18] <paul_irish> thats where people are finding it..
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72. # [01:19] <cocoadaemon> nice slides too, is there a copy of that slick 3D powerpoint somewhere ? ;)
73. # [01:20] <cocoadaemon> discovered the progresses on boilerplate ( ant builder spec. ) : bravo!
74. # [01:20] <paul_irish> ?g hakimel slides
75. # [01:20] <bot-t> paul_irish, Hakim El Hattab - http://hakim.se/
76. # [01:20] <paul_irish> cocoadaemon: somewhere in there are those slides
77. # [01:21] <paul_irish> jacine: tbh i would recommend using innershiv along with the regular html5shiv
78. # [01:21] <paul_irish> the jquery impl is too young
79. # [01:21] <jacine> paul_irish: ok, thanks ;) That's exactly what I needed!
80. # [01:21] <PRAEDO> can't mp4 be played with html5 in firefox5?
81. # [01:22] <cocoadaemon> you mean the template, not your presentation ?
82. # [01:22] <paul_irish> PRAEDO: no. for video you need to serve your h264 mp4 and a webm file
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84. # [01:23] <paul_irish> cocoadaemon: right. the template
85. # [01:23] <PRAEDO> so just rename it?
86. # [01:23] <PRAEDO> even if it's not vp8+vorbis?
87. # [01:23] <paul_irish> uh what?
88. # [01:23] <cocoadaemon> ok, well, wouldn't have mind the links, but nvm.
89. # [01:23] <PRAEDO> you mean h264+aac with .webm extension???
90. # [01:24] <paul_irish> cocoadaemon: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39519/talks/gperf/index.html
91. # [01:24] <paul_irish> PRAEDO: no
92. # [01:24] <paul_irish> course not
93. # [01:24] <paul_irish> PRAEDO: http://diveintohtml5.org/video.html#miro
94. # [01:24] <cocoadaemon> paul_irish: your parents are definitely proud of you ;-)
95. # [01:25] <PRAEDO> have a look:
96. # [01:25] <PRAEDO> http://www.irc-catalunya.tv/vp8/10284.html
97. # [01:25] <PRAEDO> isn't this correct?
98. # [01:25] <paul_irish> nope.
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100. # [01:25] <PRAEDO> what am i doing wrong?
101. # [01:25] <paul_irish> not if you want it working in all browsers.
102. # [01:25] <paul_irish> you need another source element
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104. # [01:25] <PRAEDO> that's what i want, yes
105. # [01:25] <paul_irish> right
106. # [01:25] <paul_irish> use miro video convertor
107. # [01:26] <paul_irish> turn your mp4 into a webm
108. # [01:26] <paul_irish> then reference the webm in there too
109. # [01:26] <paul_irish> boom boom done
110. # [01:26] <PRAEDO> i don't like miro
111. # [01:26] <PRAEDO> i use ffmpeg-git
112. # [01:26] <paul_irish> use ffmpeg on the command line bro
113. # [01:26] <paul_irish> idagara
114. # [01:26] <PRAEDO> but you mean i should convert mp4 into webm
115. # [01:26] <PRAEDO> i want the mp4 to play directly
116. # [01:27] <paul_irish> FF does not support mp4
117. # [01:28] <paul_irish> so it cant.
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119. # [01:28] <PRAEDO> which browsers support it?
120. # [01:29] <tw2113> IE and safari
121. # [01:29] <tw2113> if i recall
122. # [01:29] <PRAEDO> well, that html file won't playin IE either
123. # [01:30] <PRAEDO> http://www.irc-catalunya.tv/vp8/tsf2012.html
124. # [01:30] <tw2113> if i recall, for the widest html5 video support, you need mp4, webm, ogg
125. # [01:30] <tw2113> and then absolute last resort in flash
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128. # [01:37] <PRAEDO> try this:
129. # [01:37] <PRAEDO> http://www.irc-catalunya.tv/vp8/parquimetres.html
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132. # [01:43] <ryanneufeld> paul_irish: do you know much about chrome extensions?
133. # [01:44] <paul_irish> some
134. # [01:44] <ryanneufeld> I have one that should have a page action
135. # [01:44] <ryanneufeld> for a specific url
136. # [01:44] <ryanneufeld> but it doesn't seem to be working
137. # [01:45] <ryanneufeld> my permissions are tabs and the url
138. # [01:45] <ryanneufeld> when visiting the url the icon isn't added
139. # [01:46] <paul_irish> shrugggg
140. # [01:47] <ryanneufeld> hmm
141. # [01:47] <ryanneufeld> is there an irc channel for that sort of thing?
142. # [01:52] <paul_irish> chromium-support
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144. # [01:56] <necolas> paul_irish nimbu : check chat
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151. # [02:16] <stinger_05> hello
152. # [02:16] <stinger_05> i have a question if possible
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157. # [02:22] <stinger_05> i want to insert a local link (a html file) inside a main html file but with the title name of the local link and not the file name itself
158. # [02:23] <stinger_05> any suggestions anyone?
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204. # [04:22] <WILDsharustar> who is at "GEEKsessions" right now?
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219. # [05:01] <irae_> I am not from US, so can't apply, but you all should check this: http://codeforamerica.org/fellows/apply/
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264. # [06:50] <tw2113> paul_irish you work for the company, any rumors of when google+ will get a proper API?
265. # [06:51] <paul_irish> dunno
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267. # [06:51] <tw2113> drat
268. # [06:52] <tw2113> i'm trying to integrate public posts for someone on their site, and having to use an RSS based feeed
269. # [06:52] <tw2113> my word taht pulls in a lot of data that i don't foresee using
270. # [06:52] <tw2113> damn my typin
271. # [06:52] <tw2113> g
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275. # [06:56] <tw2113> *cries* i just want this data in json
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284. # [07:12] <tw2113> I'm going to blame danbeam_ for the time being
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290. # [07:14] <Ancient> Is it possible with any of the File APIs to potentially have write-only access to something like the users Download folder?
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293. # [07:15] <Ancient> My theoretical use case would be something to allow the creation of folder structures for complex multi-file downloads that don't require the overhead of generating an archive container on the fly.
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297. # [07:21] <_Ray_> Hi :) I'm currently using <aside> for a section of my blog posts where I mathematically prove things. Since some people don't care about proofs, I figure they shouldn't be forced to read it, so I put it in an <aside> and hide/show it with JS, if enabled. However, Mail.app, OS X's default Mail/RSS application, displays nothing if, on an RSS feed, <aside> appears anywhere in the article. What other elements could I use so that they semantically make se
298. # [07:21] <_Ray_> nse, but Mail.app can display them? (I'm not sure Mail.app can display any of the new HTML5 elements at all :s)
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315. # [07:50] <phrearch> morning
316. # [07:51] <phrearch> a bit old news(http://ajaxian.com/archives/irregexp-new-fast-regexp-engine-in-chrome), but is that regexp engine in v8 supporting named groups?
317. # [07:51] <phrearch> im using xregexp now for just that, but if it would work without additional lib...
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330. # [08:28] <Neiluj> hey
331. # [08:28] <Neiluj> long time no irc
332. # [08:28] <dr0id> why not
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336. # [08:35] <Neiluj> grrrr… I'm fighting against IE8
337. # [08:35] <Neiluj> I can't force reflow for generated content
338. # [08:35] <Neiluj> http://jsfiddle.net/ZDT5w/3/
339. # [08:35] <Neiluj> somebody already experienced this ??
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341. # [08:36] <Neiluj> even display block/none T_T
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347. # [09:02] <Neiluj> best & worst solution I have founded : detach and reattach :'(
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352. # [09:11] <paul_irish> Neiluj: displaynone it and back?
353. # [09:11] <Neiluj> paul_irish: hey, no already tried :(
354. # [09:11] <paul_irish> k
355. # [09:12] <Neiluj> http://jsfiddle.net/ZDT5w/4/ the detach/attach is the only way I founded...
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357. # [09:12] <Neiluj> I don't like it but it does the job :(
358. # [09:15] <dr0id> what the hell is detach/attack ?
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383. # [09:53] <pajo> why doesn't this code display the range element? http://pastebin.com/VKNQQv2D
384. # [09:53] <pajo> i have ff5
385. # [09:53] <pajo> all the tutorials work, but not my markup :S
386. # [09:54] <pajo> it just shows the text input
387. # [09:56] <pajo> cheezas, ff5 dowsn't support it yet :S
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406. # [10:35] <niftylettuce> =)
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408. # [10:37] <niftylettuce> idk why ppl do multiple vm's for diff versions of IE's when all u needa do is a snapshot
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410. # [10:37] <niftylettuce> i guess if u want consec running
411. # [10:38] <dr0id> idk why ppl do diff versions of IE's when all u need do is a chrome/ff
412. # [10:39] <Amis> dr0id...
413. # [10:39] <dr0id> Amis...
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415. # [10:41] <niftylettuce> unwrapped a pretty iPhone 4 and Nexus S today, I skittled in my pants a bit
416. # [10:41] <niftylettuce> shame they both had to be returned :(
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423. # [11:07] <OzDave_mbp> hehe
424. # [11:08] <OzDave_mbp> did you hear msi - msi wind fame are doing msi wind pads?
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426. # [11:16] <SoulRaven> any ideea way if i change from html4-trans to HTML
427. # [11:17] <SoulRaven> the css style is broken?
428. # [11:18] <niftylettuce> OzDave_mbp: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/WindPad-100W.html
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430. # [11:19] <niftylettuce> OzDave_mbp: lol, he is very happy to read his biz news @ http://www.msi.com/pic/image/product_img/other/nb/windpad/windpad_24.jpg
431. # [11:19] <OzDave_mbp> lolz
432. # [11:20] <niftylettuce> 'look at me, all business-ey.... readin ma news... the feds holdin them rates steady... oye back to business....'
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441. # [11:38] <macdada1> hi, is this possible to load an image to canvas LOCALLY, without sending it to server first?
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512. # [13:19] <Zeddy> Is it possible to display a "loading" screen while loading the manifest file?
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515. # [13:30] <beevi7> yes
516. # [13:31] <beevi7> check the window.applicationCache object
517. # [13:31] <beevi7> uhm event
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553. # [14:42] <Zeddy> is it just me or does html5 manifest _Events_ fire differently on the android browser?
554. # [14:42] <Zeddy> i built a "loading" page which displays the progress of the manifest download
555. # [14:42] <Zeddy> on android it just gets screwed up and skips the loading page
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557. # [14:42] <Zeddy> http://www.kokonniemi.fi/guide/index.php/view/map/1/1
558. # [14:42] <Zeddy> thats the page
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560. # [14:43] <Zeddy> do notice, the code is currently a mess due to lots of testing :p
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569. # [14:50] <Zeddy> window.applicationCache.addEventListener('cached', cacheDone, false);
570. # [14:50] <Zeddy> cached(e)
571. # [14:50] <Zeddy> e.loaded = undefined
572. # [14:50] <Zeddy> on the browsers its a number
573. # [14:50] <Zeddy> on the desktop browser that is
574. # [14:50] <Zeddy> but undefined on android
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579. # [14:54] <Zeddy> cmon, why are people on this channel if no ones talking
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588. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> plh_, it looks like http://w3c-test.org/webapps/ isn't getting updated
589. # [15:07] <Zeddy> bah
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591. # [15:08] <plh_> rahhh
592. # [15:08] <plh_> that's starting to get annoying
593. # [15:08] <plh_> sorry about that
594. # [15:08] <Zeddy> Does anyone know why HTML5 manifest event object "ProgressEvent" does not contain .loaded or .total variables on the default android browser?
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596. # [15:10] <Zeddy> Whats the easiest way to submit a bug? :F
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599. # [15:13] <danielfilho> hey! long time no see :)
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602. # [15:16] <Zeddy> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list?thanks=18857&ts=1311772272
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604. # [15:17] <plh_> ms2ger, I sent email. that's the third time this is happening in 3 weeks :(
605. # [15:17] <plh_> thanks for letting me know
606. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> Np
607. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> /html works very well, though
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609. # [15:17] <plh_> we fixed it last week
610. # [15:18] <plh_> and we fixed webperf the week before
611. # [15:18] <plh_> well, at least, I hope
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613. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Webperf doesn't matter to me, so that's fine :)
614. # [15:18] <Zeddy> wtf
615. # [15:18] <Zeddy> why am i being ignored :\
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617. # [15:20] <Zeddy> http://www.kokonniemi.fi/guide/index.php/view/map/1/1 thats what it should look like (and does on desktop browsers) but on the android browser it just spits out undefined and doesn't give the user one bit of information
618. # [15:23] <irae_> danielfilho: hey!
619. # [15:23] <danielfilho> O_O
620. # [15:23] <irae_> lol
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622. # [15:24] <irae_> Zeddy: this channel will be more active in some 3 ou 4 hours.
623. # [15:24] <danielfilho> I'm far from the channel for one week and, when I'm back, it's taked over! :)
624. # [15:24] <danielfilho> hahaha
625. # [15:24] <irae_> no way!
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627. # [15:25] <irae_> I've been here daily for more then a month now, never seen you here ;)
628. # [15:25] <danielfilho> hahaha, nice :) welcome so.
629. # [15:25] <irae_> welcome back =)
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632. # [15:28] <irae_> Zeddy: I'm opening the page in FF5 and Chrome12 and things are not going really well. What browser are you testing against?
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644. # [15:52] <danielfilho> irae_: look what a designer of my team made: http://cl.ly/1i3A1P0A441S0H0j2j1n
645. # [15:52] <danielfilho> lulz :)
646. # [15:52] <irae_> lol!
647. # [15:52] <irae_> just awesome!
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649. # [15:54] <OzDave_mbp> lovin the moustache action
650. # [15:55] <OzDave_mbp> its so ikea 70's
651. # [15:55] <danielfilho> hahaha
652. # [15:55] <OzDave_mbp> :)
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654. # [15:56] <danielfilho> the funny thing is the chrome logo. he got my devotion :/ hahaha
655. # [15:56] <danielfilho> actually i'm with my chrome's vintage logo shirt today.
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657. # [16:02] <danielfilho> have you guys seem this? http://docs.sencha.com/io/src/
658. # [16:02] <danielfilho> amazing :)
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662. # [16:07] <OzDave_mbp> interesting
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729. # [17:25] <humph> What's the "least surprising" design for a js lib to do, when it needs to deal with sizes of an element, and CSS sizes + sizes via a method call are given, who should win?
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731. # [17:26] <phrearch> ?
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733. # [17:26] <humph> well
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735. # [17:27] <humph> say you have a canvas
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739. # [17:27] <humph> and the page specifies a width/height for it, 200x200 for example
740. # [17:27] <humph> and
741. # [17:27] <humph> the js lib acts on that canvas, and has some init method, which also allows size to be set
742. # [17:27] <humph> and someone does 300x300
743. # [17:27] <humph> so there is a mismatch
744. # [17:27] <humph> which size would one expect to be used, CSS or the method call?
745. # [17:28] <humph> I'm looking for prior art in js apis
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863. # [20:04] <danielfilho> irae_: can you hangout now? on g+?
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873. # [20:20] <k_89> hi, can someone tell me how to view the data i have appended to a formdata object
874. # [20:21] <k_89> ??
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882. # [20:30] <graphikz> hey, I was wondering why the text is blurry in the content area on http://home.irollbitches.com/cube_final/index.html? how could I fix this?
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898. # [20:50] <k_89> hey... isn't nimbupani, or nimbu a developer who worked on html5 boilerplate??
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900. # [20:50] <nimbu> k_89: yes
901. # [20:50] <nimbu> supp
902. # [20:50] <tbranyen> k_89: she is the alpha omega
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904. # [20:50] <nimbu> O_O
905. # [20:50] <tbranyen> the one true lawd and savor
906. # [20:50] <k_89> haha, I met someone famous on a chatroom
907. # [20:51] <nimbu> hahahahah roflz
908. # [20:51] <nimbu> good joke k_89
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910. # [20:51] <k_89> what joke, you guys are famous amongst us htm5 fanboyz
911. # [20:52] <nimbu> o thnx k_89
912. # [20:52] <k_89> your welcome :)
913. # [20:52] <nimbu> ajpiano: ^^
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918. # [20:55] <ajpiano> hahaa
919. # [20:55] <nimbu> :)
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926. # [21:01] <k_89> nimbu, hey i just completed a site, http://www.snigdhamendaphotography.com/ , would you care to give a few comments on that, its as good as an autograph ...
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931. # [21:05] <nimbu> k_89: why you disable context menu? :||
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933. # [21:06] <k_89> nimbu, the photographer asked for it, i told her its a useless thing, she insisted
934. # [21:06] <k_89> ...
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936. # [21:07] <nimbu> k_89: also would not use inline css if I can avoid and rather add/remove classnames. but it looks good. I would probably try to reduce the number of wrapper divs used but i guess thats okay!
937. # [21:08] <k_89> nimbu, thanks :)
938. # [21:09] <k_89> I have used inline css only in the contact form, i just copied it from an earlier project
939. # [21:09] <k_89> its tyled again in css, will remove it right away
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944. # [21:12] <k_89> nimbu, if you were referring to #content, since the site is a little responsive , i had to assign style to it using jquery
945. # [21:13] <nimbu> k_89: i mean with jquery you can add/remove classnames rather than styles.
946. # [21:13] <k_89> okay, got it, thanks
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949. # [21:20] <plh_> ms2ger, the mercurial repository of webapps has been fixed
950. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> Great, thanks
951. # [21:24] <Ms2ger> Yay!
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985. # [22:16] <k_89> does anyone know how to make a javascript file object from a dataURL
986. # [22:16] <k_89> ?
987. # [22:17] <Michael> I didn't even know JS had a file object
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990. # [22:21] <Ms2ger> It's pretty recent
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993. # [22:24] <k_89> Michael, it allows, amog other things, reading file data and doing something with it in dom, and sending files using ajax (without iframes)
994. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> Not sure you can do that, btw
995. # [22:24] <k_89> Ms2ger, do what??
996. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> Create a File from a data URL
997. # [22:25] <k_89> trying to find out, otherwise my backend code would be seriously coupled with front end js
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1002. # [22:29] <Michael> What if your backend code had a frontend library to expose an API controlled by events that could be fired from a separate library that adhered to the API?
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1041. # [23:24] <jeffcrane> does a meta tag have to be in the head of a document?
1042. # [23:24] <jeffcrane> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-meta-element
1043. # [23:25] <graphikz> you can try and see if it validates
1044. # [23:25] <hober> jeffcrane: it depends on what you consider to be an applicable specification
1045. # [23:25] <graphikz> almost positive it has to be in the head
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1047. # [23:26] <hober> jeffcrane: html5+microdata allows <meta> anywhere phrase content is allowed, iirc
1048. # [23:26] <hober> jeffcrane: on the whatwg side, where microdata isn't split out, <meta> is also so allowed
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1050. # [23:27] <jpcody> hey all, i seem to be running up against an issue that the html5 shiv doesn't work for elements created after page load in IE. from y'all's experience, is that accurate, or am i misdiagnosing what's up?
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1055. # [23:29] <jpcody> nevermind, found the right query :) http://css-tricks.com/6869-html5-innershiv/
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1065. # [23:39] <graphikz> hey, I was wondering why the text is blurry in the content area and the scrollbar doesn't work when clicked on http://home.irollbitches.com/cube_final/index.html? how could I fix this?
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1069. # [23:41] <graphikz> chrome and safari, not i.e. or ff
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1071. # [23:42] <benv> inlining css in javascript
1072. # [23:42] <benv> good/bad? discuss
1073. # [23:42] <tbranyen> benv: depends
1074. # [23:42] <benv> on?
1075. # [23:42] <tbranyen> the situation, context, etc
1076. # [23:42] <benv> ...
1077. # [23:42] <benv> i want to inline css in javascript to reduce http requests
1078. # [23:43] <tbranyen> uhhh
1079. # [23:43] <tbranyen> okay
1080. # [23:43] <tbranyen> thats a bad idea
1081. # [23:43] <benv> pourquoi
1082. # [23:43] <tbranyen> you wnat to get the css as fast as possible to style your page
1083. # [23:43] <tbranyen> don't bundle it with the assets that should be almost last
1084. # [23:43] <swalk> benv: inline in production = good, inline in dev = bad
1085. # [23:43] <benv> ah, you're suggesting all css
1086. # [23:43] <tbranyen> yes
1087. # [23:43] <benv> let me rephrase
1088. # [23:43] <tbranyen> in the head
1089. # [23:43] <benv> this is for a third party script
1090. # [23:43] <swalk> and thats just in general
1091. # [23:43] <tbranyen> oh you want to combine assets for a plugin or something
1092. # [23:43] <benv> yes
1093. # [23:44] <benv> the page will always do its own thing
1094. # [23:44] <tbranyen> yeah thats not so bad i guess
1095. # [23:44] <benv> this wouldn't block styles, rendering, etc
1096. # [23:44] <benv> swalk: yeah, of course, production only
1097. # [23:44] <benv> but keep the cons coming - just wondering if there's something i'm overlooking
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1099. # [23:44] <swalk> it really depends on the situation
1100. # [23:44] <benv> well, then, suggest to me the situation in which it's awful
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1104. # [23:45] <benv> the one (large) downside i have is that i won't be able to debug css as well
1105. # [23:45] <swalk> if the code is used on multiple pages
1106. # [23:45] <swalk> then the resource isnt cached
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1108. # [23:45] <swalk> and its reused
1109. # [23:45] <benv> assume that i am master of caching
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1111. # [23:45] <swalk> why would debugging matter if its only done in production?
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1113. # [23:45] <benv> it's a third party widget
1114. # [23:45] <swalk> ah
1115. # [23:46] <benv> i sometimes have to debug css on other peoples' websites
1116. # [23:46] <benv> but, i have a debug switch that can serve the css separately if need be
1117. # [23:46] <benv> so, not completely awful, but a little inconvenient (having to use the switch)
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1119. # [23:47] <benv> context: this is for disqus.com
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1123. # [23:48] <benv> anyways, appreciate your comments
1124. # [23:48] <benv> swalk tbranyen: thanks
1125. # [23:48] <tbranyen> benv: lol i had issues with disqus in the past when css wouldn't load
1126. # [23:48] <tbranyen> wrote a post on it
1127. # [23:48] <kollapse> Hi. Is it generally a good idea to include all of a site's images into one single sprite ? For a reduced number of requests ?
1128. # [23:49] <benv> kollapse: sure
1129. # [23:49] <benv> tbranyen: oh? is that still an issue? i'd be glad to read if you have a link
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1131. # [23:50] <benv> kollapse: http://spriteme.org/
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1133. # [23:51] <tbranyen> benv: it was a year ago
1134. # [23:51] <tbranyen> maybe longer
1135. # [23:51] <benv> ah
1136. # [23:51] <swalk> kollapse: just dont put big photos in there, sprites are best for icons and scrolling backgrounds
1137. # [23:51] <tbranyen> benv: some day when i get my blog back up i'll link you
1138. # [23:51] <tbranyen> :-p
1139. # [23:51] <swalk> its good to combine them, but dont make the filesize too big for the sprite
1140. # [23:51] <benv> yeah, a lot of changes in that time
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1142. # [23:53] <kollapse> swalk: Oh, so for items that are relatively similar among themselves (in size) ?
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