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  9. # [00:17] <alcuadrado> can anyone give me some advice on slicing this design? http://i.imgur.com/QDcrT.jpg
  10. # [00:17] <alcuadrado> I'm using the html5bp
  11. # [00:18] <alcuadrado> with its basic structure
  12. # [00:18] <alcuadrado> and I don't know if I should put the <nav> in the <header> or in the <div id="main">
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  16. # [00:25] <Jon47> alcuadrado - it really doesn't matter
  17. # [00:26] <alcuadrado> I thought there may be some semantic differences
  18. # [00:26] <alcuadrado> html5doctor has examples of both cases
  19. # [00:26] <alcuadrado> so it seems there is not such a difference
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  21. # [00:27] <Jon47> theoretically i think the nav, header, footer all apply to the current sectioning element they are in
  22. # [00:28] <Jon47> in your case i think that would just be the main document
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  26. # [00:30] <alcuadrado> thanks that's clarifies it more :D
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  101. # [02:22] <robolobster54> Folks, the youtube speed controller is unavailable for some videos. How do I get it back?
  102. # [02:23] <robolobster54> Are there any programs that accelerate playback of youtube videos?
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  170. # [05:11] <niftylettuce> webkit auto margin/padding RAWR
  171. # [05:11] <takkun1946> agreed
  172. # [05:14] <niftylettuce> most unwanted feature evarrr?
  173. # [05:14] <niftylettuce> :D
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  177. # [05:25] <takkun1946> ??
  178. # [05:25] <takkun1946> really?
  179. # [05:25] <takkun1946> or was that a general question?
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  197. # [06:35] <ryan-> is respond.js built into modernizr? I thought it was, but now seeing the mobile boilerplate calling it separately?
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  202. # [06:55] <ryanseddon> ryan-: you have to include it in a custom build
  203. # [06:55] <ryanseddon> http://www.modernizr.com/download/
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  208. # [07:01] <ryan-> ryanseddon: right thanks. Is there any benefit to leaving it out and loading with yep/nope?
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  216. # [07:13] <ryanseddon> ryan-: yeah it will only load for the browser that need it
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  295. # [10:22] <EdwardIII> hey
  296. # [10:23] <EdwardIII> if you were to have a mobile-only nav area (e.g. a bar with 'back' in it) what kind of role or data-role would you assign to this?
  297. # [10:23] <EdwardIII> just data-role="navigation"?
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  305. # [10:25] <Alexander_> is there anyway to animate a clip() area? - to make it move around showing an image through the clip() circle
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  331. # [11:14] <EdwardIII> ah, just role i mean heh
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  334. # [11:18] <cypha> in what capacity can html5 not replace javascript in the latest version of IE, FF, and Chrome
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  359. # [12:03] <obert-> html5 is not a standard yet ;)
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  382. # [13:15] <Pomax> cypha, that's a bit of a strange question, because HTML is *just* HTML. It can't replace JavaScript. You might ask the question in relation to CSS3 animations for instance, but even then the question is a bit odd, because JS is quick and easy, thanks to years of people writing more and more conveniently easy ways to achieve the effects desired, compared to the rather cumbersome syntax in CSS
  383. # [13:15] <xec> that question sounds like homework assignment to me
  384. # [13:16] <Pomax> it's a "mu" question - the question assumes meanings for words that do not apply
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  387. # [13:16] <cypha> xec, make up your own hw assignment ideas
  388. # [13:16] <cypha> HTML5 i thought has some the ability to do what css and js do
  389. # [13:16] <xec> cypha: what i meant is, it looks like you are a student making irc people do your homework
  390. # [13:17] <xec> html5 has become a very vague term unfortunately
  391. # [13:17] <xec> some people see javascript extensions as part of html5
  392. # [13:17] <EdwardIII> stuff like local storage
  393. # [13:17] <xec> which is why the question makes little sense
  394. # [13:18] <xec> html5 cannot replace javascript in any case
  395. # [13:20] <xec> because either you think of html5 as markup only, and then you need javascript to do anything cool ;) or you think of html5 as an umbrella term for a lot of new technologies, many of which relies on javascript
  396. # [13:21] <xec> cypha: make sense?
  397. # [13:22] <cypha> so what about these animation/game-type stuff I see on the internet that's pure html5
  398. # [13:22] <cypha> usually, pencil drawing game types
  399. # [13:23] <cypha> i mean, stick figure-looking games
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  401. # [13:23] <cypha> that seem to exhibit somewhat of a physics engine
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  405. # [13:27] <Jon47> that's more javascript than html5, although the canvas element is key
  406. # [13:28] <Jon47> debating what falls into html5 or not is kind of pointless, it's all just web technology
  407. # [13:29] <xec> cypha: these games are all coded using javascript, which has become more and more powerful with new web technologies
  408. # [13:30] <andrewjbaker> cypha, a lot of 'em are using this physics engine... http://box2d.org/ ported to JS.
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  410. # [13:32] <andrewjbaker> If anyone wants to talk browser-based games w/ HTML5, best to head over to #bbg.
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  417. # [13:48] <Alexander_> is there anyway to animate a clip() area? - to make it move around showing an image through the clip() circle
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  426. # [14:04] <nlko> hi, can anyone point me towards terms or reading material for making web apps look "slicker"..mine look dated
  427. # [14:05] <nlko> i think jquery may be my answer
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  430. # [14:07] <Hopsy> yaayy, found divya :p
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  432. # [14:07] <Hopsy> I was reading your tweets :')
  433. # [14:08] <ciro_nunes> hey guys, if you will start the front-end development of a big e-commerce site, how you structure your javascript?
  434. # [14:08] <ciro_nunes> sorry from my english
  435. # [14:08] <nlko> or is it html5 and css3 which makes newer sites look good?
  436. # [14:09] <Hopsy> define 'look good'?
  437. # [14:10] <nlko> Hopsy: twitteresque, gmail login page, my sites look like a 1997 school project
  438. # [14:10] <nlko> not sure what the term im looking for is though
  439. # [14:11] <nlko> maybe its just the colors, maybe i need softer, pastol colors
  440. # [14:11] <ciro_nunes> nlko: your problem is not the technology
  441. # [14:12] <nlko> ciro_nunes: is it that im shit at art?
  442. # [14:14] <ciro_nunes> nlko: yeah man, if you want make sites looking good, you need to have design knowledge
  443. # [14:17] <NimeshNeema> Hello, I am a newbie web-developer and found this channel really helpful. Can someone tell me about similar channels for CSS and JavaScript.
  444. # [14:18] <pocopina> #css?
  445. # [14:19] <NimeshNeema> pocopina: i strictly adhere to web-standards and looking for channel as good as this one
  446. # [14:20] <NimeshNeema> pocopina: looks like there are quite a no. of ppl. will hang out here and see
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  448. # [14:21] <pocopina> from http://movethewebforward.org/ ... Freenode IRC channels: #html5 / #css / #javascript / #whatwg / #jquery / #yui / #dojo / #bbg (on irc.freenode.net)
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  452. # [14:31] <Pomax> nlko, regardless of your skill, a good start is to mock up a design, and see how close you can get with just html/css. Ideally, only your interactions (both user interaction and element interaction) requires JS. And then eventually you find stuff that does work in <fill in browser here> but not in <fill in other browser here> and you end up JS patching things. So first see how far you get with
  453. # [14:31] <Pomax> just HTML/CSS. Using JS for layout and styling (note: not applying CSS styles, but styling itself) is usually "doing it wrong(tm)"
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  457. # [14:53] <mantas322> Hello, Is it possible to save images into local Storage?
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  460. # [15:01] <Trisox> Hopsy
  461. # [15:07] <Hopsy> hey Trisox
  462. # [15:07] <Trisox> heyz
  463. # [15:11] <mantas322> Hello, Is it possible to save images into local Storage?
  464. # [15:14] <mantas322> or; what do i need to do to my xml in order for it to be added to localstorage
  465. # [15:15] <divya> o hai Hopsy
  466. # [15:16] <Hopsy> heyy
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  468. # [15:16] <onla> while those who can answer are not answering, one way to get files such as images saved locally is to use the cache manifest http://diveintohtml5.info/offline.html#manifest
  469. # [15:17] <onla> but maybe u wanna use that localStorage thing
  470. # [15:17] <Hopsy> sorry, I didnt want to interupt you divya
  471. # [15:17] <mantas322> thanks, I acctually skimmed over that article just now but i will come back to it in a minute
  472. # [15:17] <mantas322> I have a more serious question
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  474. # [15:18] <mantas322> How Can I format my xml string to be appropriate for local storage
  475. # [15:18] <mantas322> i am using coldfusion on the backend
  476. # [15:18] <mantas322> <cfset output = #REReplaceNOCASE(output, '"' , '&quot;', 'ALL')# > <cfset output = #REReplaceNOCASE(output, '&' , '&amp;', 'ALL')# > <cfset output = #REReplaceNOCASE(output, '>' , '&gt;', 'ALL')# > <cfset output = #REReplaceNOCASE(output, '<' , '&lt;', 'ALL')# >
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  479. # [15:18] <mantas322> I've tried replacving all these characters, even tried these methods : <cfset output = #XmlFormat(output)# > <cfset output = #ToString(output)# >
  480. # [15:18] <mantas322> however some xmls still WONT save to my local storage
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  483. # [15:19] <mantas322> I guess my question is what else do i need to do to my xml in order to save it to local storage
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  485. # [15:19] <mantas322> thanks for the link onla
  486. # [15:21] <onla> what ive been here for some days, not many active helpers here unfortunately, so you might have to wait for answers if you want it from here :) donno aboutyour other question myself
  487. # [15:21] <mantas322> Thanks, yeah well im at work all day, so I'll be around for the next 8 hours ... probably even weeks
  488. # [15:21] <onla> but there certainly are some users here that would know some very good answers usually
  489. # [15:21] <mantas322> I typically lurk in the irc channel im trying to figure out something
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  493. # [15:28] <mantas322> GAH!
  494. # [15:28] <mantas322> what else do I need to remove out of this string
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  510. # [15:43] <mantas322> appearently theres some ultra special quotes
  511. # [15:43] <mantas322> ""
  512. # [15:43] <mantas322> only a little slanted
  513. # [15:43] <mantas322> I have no idea how to escape them
  514. # [15:43] <mantas322> if I copy and paste them into my replace line they just turn into ordinary qutes
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  527. # [16:05] <root66> http://hookerbots.com/npc/ <- I made this in flash, but would rather it use html5/javascript
  528. # [16:05] <root66> is that a silly idea?
  529. # [16:05] <root66> is this sort of thing best suited for flash?
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  532. # [16:07] <root66> [10:01a] [root66] there will be tons of thinking logic for each frame of movement for every bot
  533. # [16:08] <root66> but my main concern is rendering time
  534. # [16:09] <Pomax> nothing is "best suited" in flash
  535. # [16:10] <root66> haha fair enough, but I want it to work in a browser without requiring java vm
  536. # [16:10] <Pomax> you could do this with JS and canvas, or even JS and lots of absolute positioned elements (although canvas would be faster, probably in WebGL because hardware accelleration is win)
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  538. # [16:10] <Pomax> oh that's easy
  539. # [16:10] <mantas322> arnt u from android-dev root66?
  540. # [16:10] <root66> yeah
  541. # [16:10] <Pomax> rewrite it from java to processing-style java, and run it through processing.js
  542. # [16:10] <mantas322> ncie o|
  543. # [16:11] <root66> Pomax: how large of a canvas can I redraw every frame with that many sprites? is it going to be even close to bogging down?
  544. # [16:11] <Pomax> depends on how much actual processing you do, but you can draw craploads of primitives per frame
  545. # [16:12] <Pomax> especially since sprites are just blits.
  546. # [16:12] <Lebannen> mantas322: re your question earlier about saving images; if they're static images for the site, the manifest is the best way, but if you're talking about dynamic content you'll need to base64-encode the images as strings before storage in localStorage or sql
  547. # [16:13] <mantas322> Thanks Lebannen, I'm not 100 percent sure if you would consider my case dynamic or static
  548. # [16:14] <mantas322> I guess the idea is that ,. you would save an xml article and its images
  549. # [16:14] <mantas322> the images associated with a saved article would always be the same
  550. # [16:14] <mantas322> so I guess it would be static
  551. # [16:14] <mantas322> right?
  552. # [16:14] <Lebannen> just depends how often you want to change those images really - the manifest is fine for stuff that won't change very often, but if it's something like an interface for storing stuff for offline use, you're better off using localStorage/sql
  553. # [16:14] <root66> Pomax: a lot of it won't be primitives, it will be using drawImage
  554. # [16:14] <mantas322> the images will neevr change
  555. # [16:15] <mantas322> its storing stuff for offline use
  556. # [16:15] <root66> or does that count?
  557. # [16:16] <mantas322> I've been playing aroudn with localStorage the last 3 days, however I've only briefly looked into maifest cache..... I'll see if thats the direction i should head tonext once, I finish manipulating these xmls
  558. # [16:16] <mantas322> Thanks for the advice
  559. # [16:17] <Lebannen> you'll need the manifest cache anyway, to make the site work offline (e.g. your html/js), so if your xml doesn't change, yeah, it can go in the same place
  560. # [16:18] * theresa_away is now known as theresaanna
  561. # [16:19] <mantas322> the idea is to save SOME articles for OFFLINE use
  562. # [16:19] <mantas322> so the potential xml and its associated images will not change
  563. # [16:20] <mantas322> bassically to put it simply , I'm trying to allow a user to retain xml and images, into local storage
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  580. # [16:36] <Pomax> root66: http://fizz.bloom.io/
  581. # [16:36] <Pomax> that's Processing.js
  582. # [16:37] <Pomax> don't even log in, just let it run. should be decent enough?
  583. # [16:38] <Pomax> or http://www.m-i-b.com.ar/letters/en/
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  626. # [17:18] <mantas322> Okay!
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  633. # [17:26] <Fridolin> hi
  634. # [17:26] <Fridolin> someone has experience with silverlight?
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  638. # [17:28] <mantas322> NO! >:O
  639. # [17:28] <mantas322> cache manifest if more complicated then i had originally thought
  640. # [17:29] <mantas322> is*
  641. # [17:29] <Lebannen> heh. Yup. But the logic is at least fairly consistent
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  651. # [17:38] <mantas322> so with local storage i can kinda check whats in there using chrome developer tools
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  653. # [17:39] <mantas322> with my hash like key values in the Locacl Storage part of the resource DEVTOOLS
  654. # [17:39] <mantas322> where can I see the cache manifest equivelent of this
  655. # [17:39] <mantas322> ^ noob question
  656. # [17:39] <mantas322> lol oh im guessing "Application Cache"
  657. # [17:39] <mantas322> hmmm
  658. # [17:40] <mantas322> im so new to all of this .... thuis is pretty exciting :D
  659. # [17:40] <Lebannen> chrome also has chrome://appcache-internals , but as the cache is all-or-nothing (only swapped in if the whole cache is valid), it only really tells you after something has worked :)
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  661. # [17:41] <mantas322> >:[
  662. # [17:41] <mantas322> well im going to keep rereading this http://www.bennadel.com/blog/1944-Experimenting-With-HTML5-s-Cache-Manifest-For-Offline-Web-Applications.htm
  663. # [17:42] <mantas322> untill I can recreate it myself
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  667. # [17:44] <Lebannen> http://appcachefacts.info/ is also useful as bullet points
  668. # [17:45] <Lebannen> note particularly that app cache changes only apply on the *second* reload, as the first will be from the cache for speed
  669. # [17:45] <mantas322> isee
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  671. # [17:45] <mantas322> do u work for html5?
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  673. # [17:46] <Lebannen> for?
  674. # [17:46] <mantas322> nevermind
  675. # [17:47] <Lebannen> I've worked on a couple of html5 sites :)
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  677. # [17:50] <mantas322> Im assuming I can make the cahce manifest dynamic
  678. # [17:51] <mantas322> somehow ? maybe (?)
  679. # [17:51] <mantas322> nvm found my answer
  680. # [17:51] <mantas322> the answer is yes
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  682. # [17:52] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish_: Your tweet got me to open Offline Gmail for the first time. I didn't know it was a totally different client. Super fast, but features are not as robust.
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  684. # [17:55] <martndemus> BrianBlakely: it's the default mobile client if you havent noticed yet
  685. # [17:57] <martndemus> thats propably why its features are not as 'robust' as default gmail
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  687. # [17:57] <BrianBlakely> martndemus: Oh, is this what iPad users get?
  688. # [17:58] <martndemus> yes, and smartphones get the same but then without the view on the right, only the list
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  691. # [18:01] <BrianBlakely> oic
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  695. # [18:03] <martndemus> it propably has something to do with chromebools
  696. # [18:03] <martndemus> chromebooks
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  704. # [18:14] <paul_irish> BrianBlakely: true
  705. # [18:14] <paul_irish> dunno why its so diff. my expectation is they will merge
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  709. # [18:17] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: I can see myself using it exclusively when I just need to check email, instead of *manage* it
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  711. # [18:18] <paul_irish> great for "reply to last 3 months of email" mode
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  713. # [18:18] <grantg> http://i.imgur.com/pGZjR.png
  714. # [18:18] <paul_irish> whoa
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  716. # [18:18] <grantg> heh
  717. # [18:19] <BrianBlakely> grantg: Wha happunn??
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  720. # [18:19] <grantg> FunnyJunk decided to post a link to my shit
  721. # [18:19] <grantg> http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3120783/Childhood/
  722. # [18:19] <grantg> FJ was the only referring URL. xD
  723. # [18:20] <grantg> They DDoS'ed my site
  724. # [18:20] <grantg> And they held their pinky up and clicked with google chrome :D
  725. # [18:21] <grantg> Thankfully it scaled
  726. # [18:21] <mantas322> welp
  727. # [18:21] <mantas322> I at least i got the browser asking permission to store things locally
  728. # [18:21] <mantas322> so thats a start i guess
  729. # [18:21] <grantg> lol
  730. # [18:22] <grantg> FunnyJunk went full retard
  731. # [18:22] <mantas322> I click "Allow" but the bar wont go away
  732. # [18:22] <grantg> mantas322: That's something wrong with your browser
  733. # [18:22] <BrianBlakely> grantg: Wow, nice game library on there
  734. # [18:23] <grantg> BrianBlakely: I also bet most of the people who visited it didn't know it was HTML5/JS
  735. # [18:24] <BrianBlakely> grantg: Beautiful
  736. # [18:24] <grantg> I wonder how many of the safari users ran into the safari crash though.
  737. # [18:25] <grantg> Seeing as safari on my computer reloads the page whenever it runs
  738. # [18:25] <mantas322> how come i cant get my browser to ask for my permission again!
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  740. # [18:25] <grantg> Safari, as in safari stable actually, as webkit nightlies are fine. :O
  741. # [18:25] <grantg> And old safari works
  742. # [18:25] <grantg> but not 5.1.X on snow
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  749. # [18:30] <mantas322> NO WAY!
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  752. # [18:33] <grantg> lol netsplit
  753. # [18:33] <BrianBlakely> mantas322: Which browser are you using?
  754. # [18:35] <BrianBlakely> grantg: Add savestate support, sync with Dropbox API. That'd be so kick-ass.
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  756. # [18:35] <grantg> It saves the game for you when you leave or switch games
  757. # [18:35] <grantg> savestates are implemented, but not on that page
  758. # [18:35] <grantg> It's implemented at /gameboy/ instead
  759. # [18:36] <grantg> Right now all the saves are in local storage
  760. # [18:36] <grantg> Ajax comm can bugger it down a bit
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  763. # [18:37] <grantg> Dropbox API linkage would be interesting though
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  766. # [18:37] <BrianBlakely> grantg: It would be "so cloud" as they say
  767. # [18:37] <BrianBlakely> grantg: Saves are base64, I take it?
  768. # [18:38] <grantg> umm
  769. # [18:38] <grantg> Actually JSON'd arrays
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  772. # [18:38] <BrianBlakely> Ah, interesting, makes sense
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  774. # [18:39] <grantg> Though it could also be base64 very easily if I spent 5 minutes changing the save support
  775. # [18:40] <grantg> Saving works by saving the serialized emulated cartridge SRAM to local storage
  776. # [18:40] <grantg> As cartridges keep their SRAM alive for saving on the cart.
  777. # [18:41] <grantg> BrianBlakely: There's one person using IE6 yelling at me in an email though.
  778. # [18:41] <grantg> Telling me why it should work in IE6
  779. # [18:42] <grantg> :S
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  781. # [18:45] <grantg> I should email that user agent data image to that person
  782. # [18:45] <grantg> To show that IE6 users make up the < 1%
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  785. # [18:45] <grantg> Anyhow going
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  788. # [18:45] <Conexion> Heh
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  790. # [18:46] <Conexion> Anyone using IE6 for browsing the internet is either a troll or masochist
  791. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> Or a government employee
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  798. # [18:54] <Conexion> government employee ~= masochist
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  807. # [19:09] <Pomax> depends where you live =P
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  862. # [20:16] <mantas322> I got cache manifest tutorial to work :D
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  904. # [21:12] <mantas322> HOW
  905. # [21:12] <mantas322> how can i make the cache manifest file dynamic according to each user
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  921. # [21:45] <BrianBlakely> mantas322: Sounds like a job for backend
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  926. # [21:57] <mantas322> BrianBlakely
  927. # [21:57] <mantas322> go on . . .
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  929. # [21:57] <mantas322> how would u conceptualize this?
  930. # [21:59] <Pomax> serve the manifest after session authentication, then send the headers with whatever chace value that is rellevant to that user. Using whatever backend server technology you're using (php, rails, node, etc)
  931. # [21:59] <Pomax> *cache value
  932. # [21:59] <Pomax> *rellevant...
  933. # [21:59] <BrianBlakely> mantas322: I'm kind of thinking that you could finagle the manifest file to run as PHP/whatever.
  934. # [21:59] <Pomax> don't type while watching film >_>
  935. # [22:00] <BrianBlakely> Pomax's suggestion looks like something that could work
  936. # [22:00] <BrianBlakely> I'm really talking out of my butt here, but I'm positive that this is the right general direction.
  937. # [22:01] <Pomax> if you need user-specific manifests/cache settings, make it happen at the server.
  938. # [22:02] <Pomax> in PHP you'd figure out who's requesting the data, based on the session cookie. You would then call headers() with the appropriate cache strings
  939. # [22:03] <Pomax> but you can't do user-specific cache settings at the client, because cache values are part of the http header. once you have the data, it's too late.
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  952. # [22:16] <dwarder> the book?
  953. # [22:16] <dwarder> what should i read
  954. # [22:16] <dwarder> to get started
  955. # [22:16] <dwarder> i know js and jquery
  956. # [22:16] <dwarder> to get started with html5
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  959. # [22:20] <tw2113> ?g introducing html5 second edition
  960. # [22:20] <bot-t1> tw2113, Amazon.com: Introducing HTML5 (2nd Edition) (9780321784421 ... - http://www.amazon.com/Introducing-HTML5-2nd-Bruce-Lawson/dp/0321784421
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  962. # [22:22] <martndemus> or
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  964. # [22:22] <martndemus> ?g pro html5 programming
  965. # [22:22] <bot-t1> martndemus, Amazon.com: Pro HTML 5 Programming (9781430227908): Peter ... - http://www.amazon.com/Pro-HTML-Programming-Peter-Lubbers/dp/1430227907
  966. # [22:23] <franksalim> \o/
  967. # [22:23] <dwarder> thanks
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  969. # [22:23] <mantas322> Thanks for all you're responses guys, unfortunatly I had to go to a meeting, and now my work day is complete
  970. # [22:23] <martndemus> franksalim: i ordered one before x-mas, it just arrived toady :)
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  974. # [22:23] <dwarder> i'll chose prto html5
  975. # [22:23] <dwarder> programming
  976. # [22:23] <mantas322> so I will save everything you guys said in a note text and thanks you appropriately for your help tomorrow
  977. # [22:24] <franksalim> martndemus, dwarder : by the way there is a second edition
  978. # [22:24] <martndemus> franksalim: it's the second edition :)
  979. # [22:24] <franksalim> http://www.amazon.com/Pro-HTML5-Programming-Professional-Apress/dp/143023864X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325711899&sr=1-1
  980. # [22:24] <martndemus> franksalim: the one i got atleast
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  982. # [22:24] <franksalim> martndemus: awesome!
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  986. # [22:25] <dwarder> thank you guys
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  999. # [22:34] <root66> heh, making progress
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  1004. # [22:37] <root66> http://hooekrbots.com/npc/html5.html
  1005. # [22:37] <root66> err
  1006. # [22:37] <root66> http://hookerbots.com/npc/html5.html
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  1008. # [22:38] <martndemus> that looks cool
  1009. # [22:38] <martndemus> what does it do?
  1010. # [22:38] <root66> I am making a generic npc that avoids barriers and bumping into people
  1011. # [22:38] <dwarder> exploits canvas :)
  1012. # [22:39] <martndemus> well, its not working yet ;)
  1013. # [22:39] <root66> obviously
  1014. # [22:39] <root66> I just started porting to html5 today
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  1016. # [22:41] <martndemus> https://twitter.com/#!/kitcambridge/status/154612804635213824
  1017. # [22:41] <socialhapy> ★ Tweet from kitcambridge: Violet is a JavaScript parser written in Ruby, and inspired by @kuvos' ZeParser: http://t.co/Phcn75FG | gem install violet ★ http://bit.ly/y6El9J
  1018. # [22:42] <martndemus> needs to try that shit
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  1066. # [23:59] <root66> http://hookerbots.com/npc/html5.html
  1067. # [23:59] <root66> haha, trippy
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