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  16. # [00:19] <grantg> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3q60tv/
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  133. # [03:38] <syk> anyone interested in doing a simple web design for $25-$50? pm me
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  254. # [08:18] <mike5w3c> hola I'm thinking of renaming the HTML5 fork of Tidy https://github.com/w3c/tidy-html5
  255. # [08:19] <mike5w3c> so that people who want to use existing Tidy on existing HTML4 docs and whatnot can just keep on doing that
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  257. # [08:19] <mike5w3c> and people who want the new goodness can use... whatever we end up calling this one
  258. # [08:19] <mike5w3c> anybody have suggestions for what to name it?
  259. # [08:20] <mike5w3c> a short name preferably
  260. # [08:20] <mike5w3c> like "tidy" except a different word
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  264. # [08:34] <phonebook_> that site should have something for easy demos.... the snobbery is astounding
  265. # [08:35] <phonebook_> the name is good for octocat
  266. # [08:36] <phonebook_> tidy - octocat - kittylitter - it all fits... but github is maximum sobbery and too trendy and its idiotically ridicolous to set up... never use it
  267. # [08:36] <phonebook_> but the name is fine, on github
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  375. # [15:12] <sunbeam> for some reason @font-face doesn't properly work in IE6,7
  376. # [15:12] <sunbeam> any idea what i do wrong?
  377. # [15:12] <sunbeam> http://pastebin.com/iGTDCDVU
  378. # [15:15] <j_wright> why the extra src?
  379. # [15:16] <LnL> Are you using eot fonts?
  380. # [15:17] <j_wright> pastebin says yes, but they have a standalone src line before the list of formats
  381. # [15:18] <obert-> fonts path is correct?
  382. # [15:18] <LnL> Yes, I've seen that in more places, not shure why tho...
  383. # [15:19] <j_wright> remove the src with one url?
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  385. # [15:19] <obert-> sunbeam: are you using the font in the following css rules, correctly, isnt it
  386. # [15:20] <sunbeam> yes
  387. # [15:21] <sunbeam> j_wright: remove ?
  388. # [15:21] <sunbeam> this was generated like this
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  390. # [15:21] <sunbeam> src: url('fonts/tradegothic/trade.eot'); - should i reomve this?
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  393. # [15:22] <LnL> sunbeam: Try with just that line
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  399. # [15:50] <sunbeam> doesn't work
  400. # [15:51] <sunbeam> I guess I will have to use cufon conditionally for IE6,7,8
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  408. # [16:16] <babylon> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out with a couple simple problems I'm having with my website?
  409. # [16:18] <babylon> basically, I am having a problem where I installed a wordpress plugin called WP Symposium and I am having problems figuring out how to resize the modules. I can find that tthey are set to a specific height and width but i cant find which files to edit in FireBug, it just gives me the name of the Page and some arbitrary number but not the name of the file.
  410. # [16:19] <babylon> www.boukay.com/forums is an example
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  420. # [16:29] <xinming> For a image gallery, Are these correct tags to handle that? <section> <nav> .. img thumbnails list </nav> <article><figure></figure></article></section>
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  453. # [17:43] <meoblast001> i'm somewhat confused
  454. # [17:43] <meoblast001> indexedDB.open() is supposed to open an indexedDB database
  455. # [17:43] <meoblast001> but if i do that in any browser, i get an indexedDB undefined error
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  459. # [17:49] <meoblast001> oh, nvm
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  480. # [18:23] <horrror> mac fellows - how do you validate your code in IE ?
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  600. # [22:38] <ordinaryman09> hey guys, how do you set on click with a variable
  601. # [22:39] <ordinaryman09> say i have var x = 1; and i wanna have on click="myFunction(x)"
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  614. # [22:58] <gnarf> ordinaryman09: we don't - you use addEventListener from an external javascript file, never use on* in your html tags - its just not html5
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  623. # [23:10] <David_Bradbury> Don't use inline JavaScript. Don't use CSS. It isn't that it isn't "html5" - They are just bad practices and are unmaintainable when working on projects.
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  630. # [23:16] <dahlfors> sunbeam: no, ie6,7,8 support embedded fonts
  631. # [23:17] <sunbeam> I know, but i cannot get this font to work
  632. # [23:17] <dahlfors> sunbeam: convert your typefaces with fontsquirrel.
  633. # [23:17] <dahlfors> that will get you all formats
  634. # [23:17] <dahlfors> then there's this server patch that you might need
  635. # [23:17] <sunbeam> Fontsquirrel says this format is corrupt (font2face etc and others dont say this but dont deliver working files)
  636. # [23:17] <dahlfors> sunbeam: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2892691/font-face-fonts-only-work-on-their-own-domain
  637. # [23:17] <sunbeam> dahlfors: oh, server patch?
  638. # [23:18] <sunbeam> great
  639. # [23:18] <dahlfors> this format is corrupt?
  640. # [23:18] <dahlfors> are you converting a corrupt font for embedding?
  641. # [23:18] <dahlfors> that might for sure be an issue
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  643. # [23:19] <dahlfors> sunbeam: anyway. if you check for this domain / subdomain issue on serverside, fontsquirrel conversion goes as it should, the only issue is the @font-face
  644. # [23:19] <dahlfors> sunbeam: http://static.bambuser.com/themes/b4/html-elements.css
  645. # [23:19] <sunbeam> yea i dont know how to fix this, normally i would use font forge to fix this
  646. # [23:20] <sunbeam> and just select the glyphs manually
  647. # [23:20] <dahlfors> that's the one that I've made for our company
  648. # [23:20] <dahlfors> and that one works for sure in ie6+ and all other browsers
  649. # [23:20] <dahlfors> mobiles as well
  650. # [23:20] <dahlfors> corrupt font files is not a good start
  651. # [23:21] <dahlfors> try to see if you can find a proper version of it
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  653. # [23:22] <dahlfors> sunbeam: if you make sure that server conf for subdomains isn't needed, and you've made the font embedding properly, I'm pretty certain that it's the corrupt font that is your issue
  654. # [23:23] <dahlfors> and remember that subdomain issue....
  655. # [23:23] <dahlfors> it took me quite a long while to find the root of that issue
  656. # [23:23] <dahlfors> :)
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  658. # [23:24] <dahlfors> not where I expected the problem to be when it worked in certain browsers but not all
  659. # [23:24] <austincheney> why is there no xml compatible serialization of html5?
  660. # [23:24] <austincheney> is this intentional?
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  662. # [23:25] <dahlfors> austincheney: it is intentional, not sure why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#XHTML5
  663. # [23:26] <dahlfors> sunbeam: btw, there is a software called fontdoctor that is supposed to be able to repair some corrupt fonts. not sure how good it is, but might be worth a shot
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  665. # [23:29] <sunbeam> thnx ill check that
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  667. # [23:31] <austincheney> thanks dahlfors
  668. # [23:32] <austincheney> if there is not a technical reason why then shouldn't anything stopping some joe from off the street writing an xml schema for HTML5
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