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  19. # [00:31] <d0den> Hi. I'm trying to trigger an action with timeUpdate / currentTime for the html5 audio player and can't get it to work, could anyone take a quick look please? http://jsbin.com/omeyiy/3/edit
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  24. # [00:41] <d0den> belay that request
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  69. # [10:05] * Topic is 'Ask any question about HTML5 & Friends || HTML5 Spec for Developers: http://developers.whatwg.org || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.info http://mzl.la/9giLwR || Channel logs: http://j.mp/cG7UDa'
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  233. # [14:27] <jadron> hello
  234. # [14:27] <jadron> hello i want to build a html page to send a specific header is that possible?
  235. # [14:27] <jadron> what tag should i use
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  239. # [14:28] <moo-_-> jadron: headers are usually HTTP protocol level thing
  240. # [14:29] <moo-_-> jadron: consult your server-side programming language and run-time environment community
  241. # [14:29] <moo-_-> how to create a HTTP response
  242. # [14:30] <jadron> i am using firefox plugin LiveHeader and what i want to do is that i replay the header recieved from the server
  243. # [14:30] <jadron> liveheader grabs the url+header content + post content
  244. # [14:30] <jadron> i want to build a page that can do the same as to replay the request
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  247. # [14:31] <superjoe> is it possible to get the progress of a <script> downloading?
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  254. # [14:38] <moo-_-> jadron: ah
  255. # [14:38] <moo-_-> jadron: yes
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  257. # [14:38] <moo-_-> jadron: you can set headers in AJAX requests
  258. # [14:38] <moo-_-> however this is limited due to security reasons
  259. # [14:39] <moo-_-> what you should do is that you have a server-side application
  260. # [14:39] <moo-_-> which receives replay request through HTTP POST
  261. # [14:39] <moo-_-> then replays it using your programming language HTTP requests or curl functionality
  262. # [14:39] <moo-_-> and returns the results back to the client
  263. # [14:39] <moo-_-> superjoe: no
  264. # [14:39] <superjoe> sounds like a job for html6
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  268. # [14:43] <jadron> what kind of server-side application ?
  269. # [14:43] <jadron> cause the LiveHeader app dont need any server to replay
  270. # [14:43] <jadron> and what language should i use
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  279. # [14:52] <lamaster> guys is there a way to radically improve animation performance(and scrolling), seems like main issue is css recalculation and layout reflow. So if I'll manually control positions of all elements this should reduce reflow and increase performance, right?
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  308. # [15:26] <bray9082> is there anyway to theme the scrollbars with HTML5
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  313. # [15:35] <patsToms> bray9082, I think only chrome supports
  314. # [15:35] <patsToms> scrollbar styling
  315. # [15:36] <bray9082> meh i'll just use what the browser gives me
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  333. # [15:49] <lamaster> patsToms: i'd say webkit-based browsers
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  336. # [15:51] <lamaster> bray9082: styling scrolling is always a bad idea. Cuz you can break user expectations
  337. # [15:51] <bray9082> I actually wanted to make it better
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  339. # [15:52] <lamaster> bray9082: make your own one from scratch then/
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  342. # [15:52] <bray9082> my own what scrollbar?
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  345. # [15:53] <lamaster> bray9082: yes, you could make something advanced like info-bar in sublime text
  346. # [15:53] <bray9082> im to lazy for that :P
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  349. # [15:55] <patsToms> bray9082, check antiscroll
  350. # [15:55] <lamaster> bray9082: i don't have scrollbar on a mac, unless i start scrolling. So I don't think you should change scrollbar
  351. # [15:55] <bray9082> in firefox there always there
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  362. # [16:02] <bray9082> patsToms: thank you for the antiscroll
  363. # [16:02] <patsToms> lamaster, he can just turn off the default one
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  387. # [16:27] <knightrage> Hey guys. Question regarding html5 & audio tag and http. I have a webpage that has an audio tag that points to an mp3, but that file is constantly growing. The browser seems to calculate the duration as soon as i connect, and doesn't realize the size changes. Is there some sort of header or something i gotta send?
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  408. # [16:37] <CasW> Hey guys, I'm having a problem, I get a DataCloneError on the following piece of code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5962810/ (DataCloneError: http://www.w3.org/TR/webmessaging/#posting-messages) Any idea why?
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  411. # [16:38] <CasW> Wait, think I found it, never mind
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  457. # [17:12] <joe12345> Hi! Is it possible to break a long document into pages and to display a single page (not necessarily the first one) in a plain member:browser? I.e. to do what an epub reader does.
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  463. # [17:16] <patsToms> joe12345, you are thinking about feature in browser or in your web?
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  471. # [17:28] <joe12345> patsTom, I'd like to know if there is a way, using modified html or css or javascript, to paginate a long document the same way print does, but to display the result in the browser window
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  473. # [17:28] <joe12345> So ideally it wouldn't be browser-specific
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  478. # [17:30] <joe12345> It isn't a matter of splitting the text every (say) 1000 characters, because the style, images, etc. should be taken into account
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  482. # [17:30] <joe12345> The parameters would just be the page size in pixels or points
  483. # [17:31] <joe12345> ...and the page number
  484. # [17:31] <patsToms> joe12345, where do you want to do this? you are trying to make webapp whic will do this?
  485. # [17:31] <joe12345> Yes
  486. # [17:31] <patsToms> if so, maybe then you can do it somehow useing iframe? haha
  487. # [17:31] <patsToms> oh, it's not good idea
  488. # [17:32] <joe12345> In all relevant browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Safari...)
  489. # [17:32] <joe12345> Any working idea would be gladly accepted :)
  490. # [17:32] <patsToms> joe12345, if you just split code, you wouldn't get valid html
  491. # [17:33] <joe12345> Parsing html would be fine if it works
  492. # [17:33] <patsToms> you need something advanced
  493. # [17:34] <joe12345> You can suggest something as complicated as needed, I just don't know if it's possible at all
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  496. # [17:35] <patsToms> joe12345, you can't just stick with multiple screens?
  497. # [17:35] <joe12345> The css standard has properties for page breaks, but I don't know if they can be used for anything not printed
  498. # [17:36] <joe12345> I'd like pages with nice transitions, not vertical scrolling
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  509. # [17:50] <benallard> Hi there, I've got some trouble on IE9 and canvas, probably some initialisation issues.
  510. # [17:50] <benallard> Troubles disappear if I start the developer tool and refresh the page
  511. # [17:50] <benallard> can be sen here: http://harvesim.neocities.org
  512. # [17:51] <benallard> needless to say that it works fine on all other tested browsers ...
  513. # [17:51] <benallard> anyone any idea ?
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  521. # [17:56] <benallard> Could be http://stackoverflow.com/a/7742862/1182619 ...
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  562. # [18:37] <benallard> yeah, that was it.
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  571. # [18:46] <mobile8> paul_irish: around?
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  687. # [20:42] <paul_irish> mobile8: hi
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  714. # [21:20] <mobile8> paul_irish: have got a question about google its ToS
  715. # [21:20] <mobile8> Maybe you know this
  716. # [21:20] <paul_irish> eeesh
  717. # [21:20] <paul_irish> i doubt i do
  718. # [21:20] <paul_irish> IANAL.. hahaaaha
  719. # [21:20] <mobile8> haha
  720. # [21:21] <mobile8> Google offers machine translation for websites, but doesn.t allow it to be used as your own content.
  721. # [21:21] <mobile8> Is this true?
  722. # [21:21] <mobile8> However, even if you pay for using the machine translation API, you should not use this content as your own.
  723. # [21:21] * paul_irish shrugssssssssss
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  725. # [21:21] <mobile8> Google its Translation API Terms state: 2) Google does not claim any ownership in the content that you submit or in the translations of that content returned by the API.
  726. # [21:21] <paul_irish> i have no idea
  727. # [21:21] <mobile8> and 5) You may not access the Translate API in a manner intended to avoid incurring fees.
  728. # [21:21] <mobile8> Ok np
  729. # [21:21] <paul_irish> 2) seems like you can use it however you want
  730. # [21:22] <paul_irish> i dont know what the fees are about or how that stuff works
  731. # [21:22] <paul_irish> but.. like if you wanted to take the results from Translate and use it for the content of your site
  732. # [21:22] <paul_irish> i don't expect Google to get very angry about that :)
  733. # [21:23] <paul_irish> seems fine
  734. # [21:23] <mobile8> Ok, this is a 50k+ uniques / month blog
  735. # [21:23] <paul_irish> and 2 says it's not claiming ownership or copyright on it
  736. # [21:23] <mobile8> Am afraid google can get mad
  737. # [21:23] <mobile8> And punish it indexing wise
  738. # [21:23] <mobile8> Or something like that
  739. # [21:23] <paul_irish> well the ToS must have some clauses about abuse and rate
  740. # [21:23] <mobile8> Its 20 USD per 1 million characters
  741. # [21:24] <mobile8> Default max possible is 1 M chars / day max
  742. # [21:24] <paul_irish> wouldn't you be caching the results?
  743. # [21:24] <mobile8> paul_irish: I would like to but can find nowhere if this is allowed
  744. # [21:24] <paul_irish> i dont know about that
  745. # [21:24] <mobile8> Any idea how to find out ? The product forums are very inactive
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  824. # [22:50] <dannydagger> hmm my site just dissapeared from google, anyone know why?
  825. # [22:50] <dannydagger> or, whats usually the reasons for it?
  826. # [22:53] * ericduran|away is now known as ericduran
  827. # [22:55] <hooweek> Did you just do a redesign?
  828. # [22:55] <dannydagger> yes
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  830. # [22:56] <dannydagger> I guess thats it then, how long does it usually take after redesigning till it shows again?
  831. # [22:57] <hooweek> They do crawls every few weeks I believe
  832. # [22:57] <dannydagger> the redesign was up though
  833. # [22:57] <dannydagger> on google
  834. # [22:58] <hooweek> I was reading about a robots.txt issue the other day
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  836. # [22:58] <dannydagger> oh what?
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  838. # [22:59] <hooweek> trying to find it, it was about blocking indexing, but I doubt you could do it by accident
  839. # [23:00] <hooweek> did you re-add it using the webmaster tools?
  840. # [23:00] <hooweek> https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/submit-url?pli=1
  841. # [23:00] <hooweek> hopefully that could speed it along
  842. # [23:00] <dannydagger> I did yeah, gonna do it again thanks though
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  844. # [23:01] <dannydagger> I made a sitemap using GsiteCrawler maybe it screwed something up?
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  847. # [23:02] <hooweek> Haven't used that before, I'm not sure. Did you add 301 redirects to old pages?
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  849. # [23:03] <dannydagger> No i didnt, I'm just waiting for the old pages to dissapear from google
  850. # [23:04] <hooweek> Oh, I see. They might have had a lot of the in-bound links that gave you a good pagerank score
  851. # [23:04] <dannydagger> hmm
  852. # [23:04] <dannydagger> I think that link u gave me made it work again
  853. # [23:04] <dannydagger> i can see it now again
  854. # [23:05] <dannydagger> my old pages were just wordpress bones theme with none of my content
  855. # [23:05] <hooweek> oh, nice. I didn't think that was particularly fast but hey whatever works lol
  856. # [23:05] <hooweek> ah, gotcha
  857. # [23:06] <dannydagger> hehe yeah
  858. # [23:06] <dannydagger> where did u find that link in webmasters though?
  859. # [23:06] <dannydagger> I cant find it navigating
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  861. # [23:07] <hooweek> top right of https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en
  862. # [23:07] <hooweek> is that what you mean
  863. # [23:07] <dannydagger> the wheel?
  864. # [23:07] <dannydagger> settings wheel?
  865. # [23:08] <hooweek> nah below it there's a big orange one that says add a site
  866. # [23:08] <hooweek> at least for me...
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  868. # [23:08] <dannydagger> oh, was that the same function as the link u gave me?
  869. # [23:09] <hooweek> yeah i think it does the same thing, I pulled the first one from a help page
  870. # [23:09] <hooweek> if you're signed in you can fiddle with things though
  871. # [23:09] <dannydagger> ah ok thanks though, but no its not the same one :)
  872. # [23:10] <dannydagger> I'll find it, in case i lose the link.. probably a usable function for other sites
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  874. # [23:10] <hooweek> hm, got it. np hope you get it fixed up proper!
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