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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 14 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  5. # [00:21] <@tantek> DanC isn't there a TAG finding re: URL shortening services and the fragility it introduces?
  6. # [00:22] <@tantek> er, they introduce
  7. # [00:22] <DanC> heh
  8. # [00:22] <@tantek> to the web-like nature of the web
  9. # [00:22] <@tantek> I mean, seems pretty fundamental
  10. # [00:28] <DanC> webarch frowns on aliases
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  15. # [00:32] <@tantek> DanC citation?
  16. # [00:35] <DanC> http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#avoid-uri-aliases
  17. # [00:37] * DanC wonders if google follows redirects when computing link karma
  18. # [00:38] <DanC> but no, the TAG hasn't written anything specifically about lots of links being redirected thru a few services
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  27. # [00:53] <mfbot> hello world!
  28. # [00:56] <tobyink> this mfbot is a friendly fellow
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  31. # [00:57] <tobyink> but no stamina
  32. # [00:57] <@kingryan> :)
  33. # [00:57] <@kingryan> he's being worked on
  34. # [00:57] <mfbot> RyanKing edited mfbot "test" (+6) http://is.gd/fMmp
  35. # [00:57] <tobyink> no stamina when he's being worked on?
  36. # [00:58] <@kingryan> no, he just needs to be restarted to try out the new code
  37. # [00:58] <@kingryan> (this is the test environment :))
  38. # [00:58] <tobyink> I was attempting a double entente
  39. # [00:59] <@kingryan> ah
  40. # [00:59] <benward_> Well, I lolled.
  41. # [00:59] <@kingryan> benward_: any feedback on the new mfbot?
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  43. # [01:02] <benward_> DanC mentioned about an issue with resilience of shortened URLs in logs, since they could disappear one day. Is there a unique ID of the edit we can put in the message for archival purposes?
  44. # [01:02] <benward_> And, getting ambitious now, can we make it so that admins can message the bot with ‘rollback 12345’ to undo spam edits direct from IRC?
  45. # [01:02] <DanC> seems like you can correlate timestamps if need be
  46. # [01:04] <benward_> /msg mfbot rollback 13342 "spam"; ban RyanKing "spamming sob"
  47. # [01:04] <benward_> Basically, I've spontaneously decided that a CLI to the wiki would be 3x awesome.
  48. # [01:06] <tobyink> If you just want to shorten the standard Mediawiki diff URIs, you could shorten this:
  49. # [01:06] <tobyink> http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=mfbot&curid=1176&diff=37634&oldid=37626
  50. # [01:06] <tobyink> to this:
  51. # [01:06] <mfbot> BenWard edited to-do "/* Ben Ward */ Updated my todo list." (-79) http://is.gd/fMq6
  52. # [01:07] <tobyink> http://microformats.org/wiki/mfbot?diff=37634&oldid=37626
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  55. # [01:14] <mfbot> BenWard created value-excerption-pattern-issues/empty-value-element-test/hCard-1 "Added standalone (testable) hCard test-case." http://is.gd/fMtg
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  63. # [01:42] <mib_osykwl> hahahahaha
  64. # [01:42] <mib_osykwl> http://s3.bg.battle-knight.com/index.php?loc=hire&;ref=NDAyNDU=
  65. # [01:43] <mib_osykwl> her tiots are out
  66. # [01:43] <mib_osykwl> :>
  67. # [01:43] <mib_osykwl> tits *
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  69. # [01:48] <mib_osykwl> 2:45 mib_osykwl http://s3.bg.battle-knight.com/index.php?loc=hire&;ref=NDAyNDU=
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  77. # [02:16] <mfbot> BenWard edited events "Removed reference to 'TOC-right' template; that is redundant as __TOC__ is now styled properly by CSS." (-6) http://is.gd/fMQp
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  79. # [02:17] <SignpostMarv> I'm noticing a bit of odd behaviour with some hCalendar parsing in a page I put together
  80. # [02:18] <SignpostMarv> Operator finds all the events, but neither the X2V prog on suda.co.uk nor the Technorati converter find them
  81. # [02:20] <SignpostMarv> http://svc.sl.marvulous.co.uk/viewer%20downloads/
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  111. # [06:22] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-empty-value-test "/* Evil Tests */ Updated 'evil' intro paragraph" (-265) http://is.gd/fOaL
  112. # [06:23] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-empty-value-test "Added related pages." (+134) http://is.gd/fObe
  113. # [06:24] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-empty-value-test "/* General Test Feedback */ Fixed unclosed div. Sorry." (+7) http://is.gd/fObg
  114. # [06:32] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-pattern-brainstorming "/* Results */ Try to fix broken closing <DIV>" (+1) http://is.gd/fOdp
  115. # [06:33] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-pattern-brainstorming "/* details for handling specific property types */ Try to fix mis-nesting of TOC." (+1) http://is.gd/fOdX
  116. # [06:44] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-pattern-brainstorming "/* enabling more use of title attributes */ Merged empty-element 'issue' into brainstorm." (+7550) http://is.gd/fOis
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  118. # [06:51] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-pattern-issues "/* Parsing title from Empty value Elements */ Moved issue -> brainstorm" (-6955) http://is.gd/fOku
  119. # [07:01] <mfbot> Tantek edited value-excerption-pattern-brainstorming "entry title, add extra content/headings in order to workaround a MediaWiki TOC generation/depth bug" (+362) http://is.gd/fOmu
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  122. # [07:02] * Marv checks if anyone is awake to ask about inconsistencies between Operator, X2V and Technorati iCal converter
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  124. # [07:02] <@tantek> do you have a URL to an example hCalendar that is interpreted differently among the tools?
  125. # [07:03] <Marv> http://svc.sl.marvulous.co.uk/viewer%20downloads/
  126. # [07:03] <Marv> "hidden microformats" needs to be enabled in Operator as display:none; / :hover { display: block; } geekery is used
  127. # [07:05] <Marv> at first I thought it was because there were multiple .hcalendar blocks in- I then changed the class to vcalendar then just plain old calendar, and it didn't affect the X2V/Technorati side of things.
  128. # [07:05] <@tantek> vcalendar and vevent are the root classes for hCalendar
  129. # [07:05] <@tantek> class name of "hcalendar" should not have any effect
  130. # [07:08] * Marv checks the wiki for info on the behaviour regarding multiple .hcalendar blocks
  131. # [07:08] <Marv> ^out of curiosity
  132. # [07:09] <@tantek> no such thing as a .hcalendar block - do you mean a .vcalendar block?
  133. # [07:09] <@tantek> (presuming "." means class name)
  134. # [07:09] <Marv> yes, thats what I mean :-)
  135. # [07:11] <Marv> the page uses hCalendar to track the release date of each of the software downloads linked in the document, so from one point of view they're seperate calendars. However, even with the .vcalendar to .calendar switch, neither X2V on suda.co.uk nor Technorati pick the events up
  136. # [07:11] <Marv> I just get a blank calendar
  137. # [07:12] <@tantek> did the validators provide useful feedback?
  138. # [07:12] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/validators
  139. # [07:12] <Marv> ah, not noticed those
  140. # [07:13] <Marv> loading optimus, since both Operator and Technorati have already been attempted
  141. # [07:17] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-empty-value-test "Improved intro paragraph language, switched to 'value-title' classname as per more powerful and likely proposal, updated examples. Added 'this not part of microformats yet and may never be!' notice" (+878) http://is.gd/fOrd
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  149. # [07:58] <mfbot> BenWard edited value-excerption-empty-value-test "/* hAtom#1: An hAtom published/updated Field */ Updated to value-title classname" (+6) http://is.gd/fOC6
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