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  51. # [12:20] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=64098&oldid=64023&rcid=100337 * Eugenb * (-1)
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  53. # [13:16] <felixjet> can someone help me with a microformat question please?
  54. # [13:16] <felixjet> on h-recipe... p-name - the name of the recipe
  55. # [13:16] <felixjet> but... recipes have a title, not a name, dont ?
  56. # [13:16] <felixjet> shoudlnt it be p-title ?
  57. # [13:18] <barnabywalters> welcome felixjet
  58. # [13:18] <felixjet> welcome barnabywalters
  59. # [13:18] <barnabywalters> title is a confusing semantic which was replaced with name for consistency
  60. # [13:18] <barnabywalters> name is the more generic, appropriate semantic
  61. # [13:18] <felixjet> but .. a dog has a name
  62. # [13:19] <felixjet> a person
  63. # [13:19] <felixjet> etc
  64. # [13:19] <felixjet> but a recipe?
  65. # [13:19] <felixjet> its a title, dont ?
  66. # [13:19] <felixjet> i think name is the semantic confusing here
  67. # [13:19] <barnabywalters> compareL https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=recipe%20name
  68. # [13:19] <barnabywalters> https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=recipe%20title
  69. # [13:19] <barnabywalters> 4x more results for recipe name
  70. # [13:19] <felixjet> uh
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  72. # [13:20] <felixjet> not fair
  73. # [13:20] <felixjet> https://www.google.es/search?q="recipe+title"
  74. # [13:20] <felixjet> https://www.google.es/search?q="recipe+name"
  75. # [13:20] <felixjet> more on title
  76. # [13:21] <barnabywalters> felixjet: could you raise this issue on the h-recipe-feedback page on the wiki? I’m a bit busy now
  77. # [13:21] <barnabywalters> with links to that data
  78. # [13:21] <felixjet> its an issue? im fine with "name", i was just wanting to know if im really wrong
  79. # [13:21] <felixjet> or its opinion-based
  80. # [13:21] <felixjet> hehe
  81. # [13:22] <barnabywalters> name is more generic and consistent with the other microfomats vocabularies
  82. # [13:22] <barnabywalters> but if title really is a more appropriate semantic then we should look into using it
  83. # [13:22] <barnabywalters> hence documenting it
  84. # [13:24] <felixjet> ill post an issue and see what others think about it
  85. # [13:24] <felixjet> thx
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  141. # [21:42] <KevinMarks> felixjet: re 'title' - we had a collision with the title of a person from vCard - see http://microformats.org/wiki/properties
  142. # [21:43] <felixjet> i dont understand that
  143. # [21:43] <felixjet> what vcards have to do with recipes
  144. # [21:43] <KevinMarks> this became p-job-title
  145. # [21:43] <felixjet> ?
  146. # [21:44] <KevinMarks> microformats use each property name once, not to mean different things in differnt places
  147. # [21:45] <felixjet> but a recipe doesnt have a name, have a title, dont?
  148. # [21:45] <KevinMarks> entry-title would be the suggestion to reuse
  149. # [21:46] <KevinMarks> it used to be fn, which was replaced by name
  150. # [21:49] <KevinMarks> name vs title is a bit bikesheddy; title is publication centric, name is dish centric
  151. # [21:50] <KevinMarks> the foodstuff is named "pumpkin pie"
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  154. # [21:58] <KevinMarks> it might be named "Gordon Ramsay's pumpkin pie"
  155. # [22:00] <KevinMarks> the recipe is instructions to make the foodstuff; not sure if it has a title per se
  156. # [22:20] <felixjet> depends on opinnion i guess
  157. # [22:20] <felixjet> but to me.... a recipe is some sort of publication
  158. # [22:20] <felixjet> like a recipe book
  159. # [22:20] <felixjet> thats good use for a title if you ask me
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