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  36. # [12:16] <MikeSmith> wow, a posting from Chaals
  37. # [12:17] <anne> he sits right behind me :)
  38. # [12:19] <MikeSmith> anne: poke him with a stick, please
  39. # [12:19] <MikeSmith> make sure he's alive
  40. # [12:20] <tlr> ... and ask about the igloo
  41. # [12:20] <anne> he is
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  44. # [13:28] <anne> he didn't sleep in the igloo
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  47. # [14:28] <arve> uh?
  48. # [14:28] <arve> DC: They have explained -- WebApps need URIs, because their system context is the DOM API, e.g. <img src="...."/>, where that src can be a widget
  49. # [14:29] <arve> from the TAG meeting
  50. # [14:29] <arve> that's not exactly what we meant, no
  51. # [14:57] <tlr> arve, are any of the people directly involved with Widgets participating at the TAG meeting as guests?
  52. # [14:59] <anne> are any of the people directly involved with HTML5 participating at the TAG meeting as guests?
  53. # [14:59] <anne> nope
  54. # [14:59] <tlr> *sigh*
  55. # [14:59] <anne> the TAG "rather" guesses
  56. # [14:59] <tlr> calm down
  57. # [15:00] <anne> i used quotes
  58. # [15:00] <tlr> arve?
  59. # [15:01] <tlr> is that from a meeting that currently goes on?
  60. # [15:01] <arve> tlr: no, something from some minutes art just sent to public-webapps
  61. # [15:01] <tlr> ah, ok
  62. # [15:02] <arve> tlr: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/12/04-minutes.html#item04
  63. # [15:03] <arve> what does "skolemized" mean?
  64. # [15:03] <tlr> arve, please send a note to the TAG explaining to them what the problem really is
  65. # [15:05] <arve> tlr: I'll have a discussion with marcos about it
  66. # [15:05] <tlr> excellent
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  75. # [16:15] * Topic is 'Web Applications WG (logged at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/)'
  76. # [16:15] * Set by ArtB on Thu Nov 06 14:06:04
  77. # [16:18] <marcos> wonder if tag: could do the trick after all...
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  82. # [19:45] <shepazu> marcos: this is gonna sound either uninformed or stupid, but have you considered the case where people might want to email widgets to others, which would actually run in the email client?
  83. # [19:53] * tlr buys a "bad idea fairy" t-shirtfor shepazu :)
  84. # [19:54] <shepazu> fair enough :)
  85. # [19:54] * shepazu waits eagerly for the shirt to come in the mail
  86. # [19:54] <tlr> then again, it's probably just a question of time
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  89. # [21:19] <marcos> shepazu, OMG! that's so stupid and informed! How could you ask me that!
  90. # [21:19] * marcos tries to mask the fact that he has not thought about that
  91. # [21:20] <shepazu> marcos: birds of a feather...
  92. # [21:20] <marcos> hehe
  93. # [21:21] <shepazu> marcos: I don't know that it's a serious use case, or that it would require any changes, but seeing how folks embed links, images, and other such stuff in emails, it occurred to me that it might be interesting to address it
  94. # [21:22] <marcos> I guess it would just be treated as any other file would be. If the client supports widgets, then the widget runs
  95. # [21:22] <shepazu> for example, someone might send an interactive map or something to someone else, and ask them to pick a location, which would then be reported back to another server. or some such silliness, that could easily be done as a link, if not for the fact that the email might be read offline
  96. # [21:22] <gsnedders> Surely the host of the widget sandbox is irrelevant?
  97. # [21:22] <shepazu> yup
  98. # [21:23] <shepazu> hmmm... do different UAs provide different sandboxes for a widget?
  99. # [21:23] <marcos> we don't know yet, as we don't have a security model
  100. # [21:23] * gsnedders doesn't claim to know much about widgets
  101. # [21:23] * gsnedders affixes n00b sticker to head
  102. # [21:24] <shepazu> so, if I have my blinking marquee clock, which is compatible with both FF and Opera widgets, where does it "run"?
  103. # [21:24] * gsnedders tried to get some stickers saying "n00b" on them for TPAC, but had an EPIC FAIL trying to get them.
  104. # [21:24] * marcos also affixes n00b sticker on heads, but adds "uber" to it.
  105. # [21:24] <gsnedders> "heads"!?
  106. # [21:25] <gsnedders> You have more than one?
  107. # [21:25] <shepazu> (assuming I have both UAs installed)
  108. # [21:25] <gsnedders> That's impressive.
  109. # [21:25] <shepazu> "n00buber"?
  110. # [21:25] <marcos> shepazu, the same thing that happens now with PDF
  111. # [21:25] * gsnedders has now dragged this totally off-topic, and will therefore depart to avoid causing more chaos
  112. # [21:25] <shepazu> marcos: right
  113. # [21:26] <marcos> You may choose which app to run it in... mind you, they might run as a native part of the OS.
  114. # [21:26] <marcos> so, they might not be associated with anything at all, they might just be treated as applications (like Nokia's web runtime does)
  115. # [21:28] <marcos> gsnedders, I'm still learning how to use the keyboard. I make a lot of mistakes with it.
  116. # [21:28] <gsnedders> marcos: I make a lot of mistakes in life :)
  117. # [21:29] * gsnedders motions towards Twitter for (mainly partial) explanations
  118. # [21:29] <marcos> gsnedders: great! then I'm not alone. we learn from those, so that's a good thing.
  119. # [21:31] <marcos> gsnedders: oh, I see... you are on your own, buddy.
  120. # [21:32] * gsnedders really has dragged us off-topic now
  121. # [21:32] * gsnedders implodes and his former location is filled with smoke
  122. # [21:34] <Dashiva> Where did the smoke come from?
  123. # [21:36] <shepazu> carbonized gsneddersbits
  124. # [22:28] <gsnedders> Hmm… Smells nice in here…
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  126. # [23:37] <gsnedders> marcos: When are you publishing me, BTW?
  127. # [23:53] <marcos> oh! right now.
  128. # [23:53] <marcos> gsnedders
  129. # [23:53] <marcos> I'll upload.
  130. # [23:59] <marcos> gsnedders: actually, I had Hixie as episode 16 and you next week week. I thought it was the other way around.
  131. # [23:59] <gsnedders> marcos: Then another week until I become real :)
  132. # [23:59] <marcos> Anyway, Mr Lastweekinhtml5 gave me props so I don't need you any more P
  133. # [23:59] <marcos> :P
  134. # [23:59] <marcos> hehe.
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