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  54. # [17:55] <Marcos> Artb, just a heads up the <preference> element is under-specified. I'm writing an email about it now.
  55. # [18:06] <ArtB> Marcos, if config.xml contains more than one <author> element, which one wins?
  56. # [18:06] <Marcos> the first
  57. # [18:06] <ArtB> then why would <preference> be diff?
  58. # [18:07] <Marcos> because multiple are allowed. But like I said in the email, that is choice 1.
  59. # [18:07] <Marcos> We could certainly just run with 1.
  60. # [18:08] <ArtB> would you expand a bit on what you mean by "multiple are allowed"?
  61. # [18:08] <Marcos> <pref name="x"> <pref name="y"> and so on...
  62. # [18:08] <ArtB> well of course
  63. # [18:09] <Marcos> yeah, that's all I meant
  64. # [18:09] <ArtB> what does the spec say about multiple pref elements with the same name value?
  65. # [18:09] <ArtB> its silent?
  66. # [18:09] <Marcos> yes, silent
  67. # [18:09] <Marcos> (hence, the problem arrises)
  68. # [18:10] <ArtB> from the developer's perspective, which option suits the "Principe of Least Surprise"?
  69. # [18:10] <ArtB> Principle :)
  70. # [18:10] <Marcos> For me, personally, option 3 that is in the email.
  71. # [18:10] <ArtB> the answer is either First or Last, right?
  72. # [18:11] <Marcos> right
  73. # [18:11] * Marcos has to run off. Can we continue this over email?
  74. # [18:12] <ArtB> sure
  75. # [18:12] <Marcos> Thanks (Its likely the last sunny day for a while in Oslo! I don't wanna miss it :) )
  76. # [18:13] <ArtB> BTW, the answer is FIRST :)!
  77. # [18:13] <Marcos> ok, we will go with the first... that makes my life easy.
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  96. # [23:06] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  97. # [23:06] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
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  99. # [23:06] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-webapps-irc
  100. # [23:06] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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  102. # [23:06] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  103. # [23:06] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAPP
  104. # [23:06] <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
  105. # [23:06] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  106. # [23:06] <trackbot> Date: 09 September 2009
  107. # [23:07] <shepazu> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  108. # [23:07] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)5:00PM scheduled to start now
  109. # [23:07] <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu
  110. # [23:07] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  111. # [23:07] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)5:00PM has now started
  112. # [23:07] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  113. # [23:07] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  114. # [23:08] <smaug> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
  115. # [23:08] <Zakim> +smaug; got it
  116. # [23:08] * smaug needs a cup of tee
  117. # [23:09] <shepazu> chair: shepazu
  118. # [23:09] <shepazu> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2009JulSep/0265.html
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  120. # [23:16] <smaug> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Core-20040407/core.html#DOMObject
  121. # [23:21] <smaug> ACTION: smaug to check gecko's key event handling during composition events
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  123. # [23:21] * RRSAgent records action 1
  124. # [23:21] <trackbot> Created ACTION-401 - Check gecko's key event handling during composition events [on Olli Pettay - due 2009-09-16].
  125. # [23:26] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  127. # [23:27] <Travis> Hi.
  128. # [23:27] <shepazu> Topic: New WD of DOM3 Events
  129. # [23:28] <smaug> shepazu: we have a new WD
  130. # [23:29] <smaug> shepazu: asking internalization people to comment about it
  131. # [23:29] <shepazu> Topic: 'select' event
  132. # [23:29] <smaug> shepazu: did some testing on select event and made some changing to the WD
  133. # [23:29] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-select
  134. # [23:30] <smaug> shepazu: it is only available on certain elements
  135. # [23:30] <smaug> shepazu: and I added .detail
  136. # [23:31] <smaug> smaug .detail is long!
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  138. # [23:37] <smaug> shepazu: hard to define when mousedown/up generates a click
  139. # [23:38] <smaug> shepazu: with select I'd like to know what has been selected
  140. # [23:38] <smaug> Travis: just use HTML5 for that
  141. # [23:42] <smaug> shepazu: do we want to overload select event for mouse and keyboard selection?
  142. # [23:42] <smaug> shepazu: I'll have to look at HTML5 about this
  143. # [23:43] <smaug> shepazu: what if there is an image selected?
  144. # [23:43] <smaug> Travis: it is included
  145. # [23:44] <smaug> shepazu: what happens when pasting that data to somewhere?
  146. # [23:44] <smaug> Travis: UA must put the data in all possible formats to clipboard
  147. # [23:44] <Travis> Selection in HTML5: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#selection
  148. # [23:45] <smaug> shepazu: yeah, relates to clipboard handling
  149. # [23:48] <smaug> shepazu: there are whole range of options for copy-paste and data handling
  150. # [23:49] <smaug> shepazu: so is it worth worth saying author can get the text somehow?
  151. # [23:50] <smaug> Travis: I'd just rather use other mechanism
  152. # [23:50] <smaug> shepazu: I'll probably add reference to HTML5
  153. # [23:50] <smaug> shepazu: does the select event work everywhere, or only with form elements?
  154. # [23:51] <smaug> Travis: IE fires an event to body or document
  155. # [23:53] <smaug> shepazu: maybe I'll say that it is up to UA to decide the target
  156. # [23:53] <shepazu> Topic: event order
  157. # [23:54] <smaug> shepazu: there is event order defined for mouse, key and composition events
  158. # [23:54] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-mouseevent-event-order
  159. # [23:54] <smaug> shepazu: ... in the latest draft
  160. # [23:54] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-keyboard-event-order
  161. # [23:55] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-composition-event-order
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  163. # [23:57] <smaug> shepazu: I added a list of events, I'm planning to add diagrams
  164. # [23:58] <smaug> shepazu: is this too much detail, or not enough?
  165. # [23:58] <smaug> Travis: certainly helpful
  166. # [23:58] <smaug> smaug: I agree
  167. # [23:59] <smaug> shepazu: will get more complicated once I start define the interaction between different event types
  168. # Session Close: Thu Sep 10 00:00:00 2009

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