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  21. # [08:48] <Hixie> shepazu: yt?
  22. # [08:49] <shepazu> hi, Hixie
  23. # [08:49] <Hixie> shepazu: browsers have a concept of "trusted" events (in particular, trusted user interaction events), which they use e.g. in their popup blockers. XBL2 uses it also, and HTML5 references the concept a few times. Where should we define it, any opinion?
  24. # [08:49] <Hixie> (see also http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8117)
  25. # [08:50] <shepazu> Hixie: we've discussed this in D3E calls, and I am going to put something in the spec, which I would welcome your review on
  26. # [08:50] <Hixie> cool, will do
  27. # [08:51] <shepazu> basically, we wanted to say that untrusted events (that is, events that are script-created) don't trigger default actions, etc.... there would essentially be a trusted flag... how does that strike you?
  28. # [08:54] <shepazu> Hixie: also, if you have a pointer to where you talk about it in HTML5, that would be handy
  29. # [08:54] <shepazu> I don't think I know all the implications right now of "trusted" events, but I do think it's important to capture
  30. # [08:54] <Hixie> The activation behavior of a elements and area elements are the two places in HTML5 that use the term
  31. # [08:55] <shepazu> ok
  32. # [08:56] <Hixie> the default actions don't exist if the event was script-created (or rather, they're themselves script-defined), so i don't know that that proposal makes sense really
  33. # [08:56] <Hixie> and some (most?) default actions do trigger even for .click()-created (untrusted but UA-managed) click events
  34. # [08:57] <Hixie> e.g. .click() on a radio button checks it, iirc
  35. # [08:57] <Hixie> in fact even on links per html5 it triggers, just not if there's a target=""
  36. # [08:58] <Hixie> i think dom events just needs to say that events have a trusted vs untrusted flag, which is set to true for all events that are triggered by user interaction, and set to false for all others, or something like that
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  38. # [09:06] <shepazu> makes sense
  39. # [09:06] <shepazu> that's sorta what I was getting at, but a better way of stating it
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  41. # [10:24] <Lachy> shepazu, yt?
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