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  25. # [09:20] <grantgalitz> heh
  26. # [09:21] <grantgalitz> My submission of a webapp, recorded as a youtube video
  27. # [09:21] <grantgalitz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR3z3PHG3rI
  28. # [09:21] <grantgalitz> https://github.com/grantgalitz/GameBoy-Online
  29. # [09:21] <grantgalitz> :D
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  71. # [19:13] <jrossi> telecon today?
  72. # [19:14] <smaug_> apparently not
  73. # [19:14] <smaug_> there is no agenda at least
  74. # [19:14] <smaug_> is there something we should talk about
  75. # [19:15] <smaug_> it is possible that I or masayuki will propose a change to wheel events
  76. # [19:15] <smaug_> perhaps just a minor change
  77. # [19:15] <shepazu> jrossi, smaug_, we can have a call if you like
  78. # [19:15] <smaug_> delta values should probably be doubles
  79. # [19:15] <shepazu> no!!!!!!
  80. # [19:15] <shepazu> well, ok
  81. # [19:15] <smaug_> but I'm not sure
  82. # [19:15] <shepazu> if it's okay with MS
  83. # [19:16] <jrossi> yep
  84. # [19:16] <smaug_> I need to discuss with masayuki first
  85. # [19:16] <jrossi> sorry, thought you meant is it ok to have a conference :-)
  86. # [19:16] <smaug_> jrossi: anything particular to discuss about?
  87. # [19:17] <jrossi> the real last call! :-) .... and any node list updates?
  88. # [19:19] <smaug_> I didn't meet jresig when I was in US...
  89. # [19:19] <smaug_> so far only sicking's proposal can handle perhaps the most needed mutation event, DOMCharacterDataModified
  90. # [19:20] <smaug_> it is possible that we'll implement it right after FF4, with moz prefix
  91. # [19:20] <smaug_> so that people can try it out
  92. # [19:22] <jrossi> yes, that's a limitation of resig's current proposal
  93. # [19:22] <shepazu> are we going t have a call?
  94. # [19:22] <jrossi> sure, it'll probably be short
  95. # [19:23] <shepazu> ok
  96. # [19:23] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  97. # [19:23] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  99. # [19:23] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/01/26-webapps-irc
  100. # [19:23] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  101. # [19:23] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  103. # [19:23] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  104. # [19:23] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start in 40 minutes
  105. # [19:23] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  106. # [19:23] <trackbot> Date: 26 January 2011
  107. # [19:23] <shepazu> Zakim, room for 3?
  108. # [19:23] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; conference Team_(webapps)18:20Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1920Z
  109. # [19:23] <smaug_> jrossi: FYI, the reason for the possible change in wheel events is because Win7 supports "high resolution" scrolling
  110. # [19:24] <shepazu> Zakim: call, shepazu
  111. # [19:24] <smaug_> and what Windows gives to UA, doesn't exactly map to pixels
  112. # [19:24] <smaug_> ...I've been told
  113. # [19:24] <shepazu> zakim, call shepazu
  114. # [19:24] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  115. # [19:24] <Zakim> Team_(webapps)18:20Z has now started
  116. # [19:24] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  117. # [19:24] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  118. # [19:25] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  119. # [19:25] <smaug_> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
  120. # [19:25] <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
  121. # [19:27] * shepazu http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/tip/touchevents.html
  122. # [19:38] <shepazu> scribenick: jrossi
  123. # [19:39] <jrossi> smaug_: the wheel delta should be double or float
  124. # [19:40] <jrossi> travis: for fractional pages/lines
  125. # [19:40] <jrossi> travis: float would be better, doubles are a bit big
  126. # [19:41] <jrossi> jrossi: agreed
  127. # [19:41] <jrossi> smaug_: float is fine
  128. # [19:43] <jrossi> RESOLUTION: change deltaX, deltaY, deltaZ to float for WheelEvent
  129. # [19:44] <jrossi> shepazu: ok, done
  130. # [19:44] <jrossi> smaug_: for mutation events replacement, jresig's proposal doesn't handle the most important event DOMCharacterDataModified
  131. # [19:44] <jrossi> topic: mutation events replacement
  132. # [19:44] <jrossi> smaug_: for mutation events replacement, jresig's proposal doesn't handle the most important event DOMCharacterDataModified
  133. # [19:44] <shepazu> s/zakim, call shepazu/Topic: wheel events/
  134. # [19:45] <jrossi> jross: agreed, it's a shortfall of his proposal....but I think his proposal could be improved to support it
  135. # [19:47] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Selector-based_Mutation_Events
  136. # [19:48] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/MutationReplacement
  137. # [19:48] <jrossi> jrossi: doesn't have resig's proposal on there
  138. # [19:48] <jrossi> shepazu: we should add that
  139. # [19:51] <smaug_> https://github.com/jeresig/nodelist
  140. # [19:55] <jrossi> smaug_: we should all read these proposals and talk about this next week
  141. # [19:56] <jrossi> shepazu: this is not really dom 3 events, so we should move forward with a replacement but perhaps in a different conf
  142. # [19:56] <jrossi> jrossi: i'll send out mail to get the conversation started
  143. # [19:59] <jrossi> topics: dom 3 events issues
  144. # [19:59] <jrossi> topic: dom 3 events issues
  145. # [19:59] <shepazu> ISSUE-121?
  146. # [19:59] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-121
  147. # [19:59] <trackbot> ISSUE-121 -- Consider generalizing the 'textInput' event to cover all user-initiated changes -- open
  148. # [19:59] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/121
  149. # [19:59] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
  150. # [19:59] <jrossi> jrossi: i'll mail out the updates we should make to the issues
  151. # [20:00] <shepazu> ISSUE-122?
  152. # [20:00] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-122
  153. # [20:00] <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- Consider adding 'mousewheel' again -- open
  154. # [20:00] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/122
  155. # [20:01] <jrossi> shepazu: does anyone want to add mousewheel again?
  156. # [20:01] <jrossi> jrossi: no
  157. # [20:01] <jrossi> smaug_: no
  158. # [20:01] <jrossi> RESOLUTION: we will not add mousewheel back
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  160. # [20:29] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  161. # [20:29] <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
  162. # [20:29] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  163. # [20:29] <Zakim> Team_(webapps)18:20Z has ended
  164. # [20:29] <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
  165. # [20:29] <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
  166. # [20:29] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  167. # [20:29] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  168. # [20:29] <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
  169. # [20:29] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  170. # [20:29] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/26-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
  171. # [20:29] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  172. # [20:29] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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