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  71. # [14:24] <ArtB1> MikeSmith - yt?
  72. # [14:24] <MikeSmith> yeah
  73. # [14:27] <ArtB1> MikeSmith - I noticed two HTML5 bugs http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13588 and http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13584 that appear to be for Web Messaging spec
  74. # [14:27] <MikeSmith> yeah
  75. # [14:27] <MikeSmith> we can change the product on them later
  76. # [14:27] <ArtB1> I can change them if you'd like
  77. # [14:27] <MikeSmith> sure
  78. # [14:29] <ArtB1> done
  79. # [14:32] <MikeSmith> thanks
  80. # [14:34] <ArtB1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 is either Workers or Messaging, probably the former
  81. # 06[14:42] * MikeSmith looks
  82. # [14:44] <MikeSmith> I changed it to Workers
  83. # [14:44] <MikeSmith> I'll leave it to Hixie to change it to Messaging if he figures that's better
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  87. # [14:58] <ArtB> anne, yt?
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  89. # [15:04] <anne> hi ArtB
  90. # [15:04] <anne> drinking tea atm, but i'm around
  91. # [15:08] <ArtB> anne, re publishing a new LC of Progress Events ... the CfC ended yesterday
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  93. # [15:09] <ArtB> I can send a PubReq today
  94. # [15:09] <ArtB> can you get it ready for a publication Aug 4?
  95. # [15:09] <ArtB> I don't know if webreq can get it published that quickly
  96. # [15:09] <ArtB> so Aug 9 is safest
  97. # [15:09] <ArtB> WDYT Anne?
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  101. # [15:12] <anne> yeah
  102. # [15:12] <anne> i can get it ready in a couple of minutes
  103. # [15:12] <anne> so aug 4 is fine
  104. # [15:13] <ArtB> anne, let's go for that
  105. # [15:13] <ArtB> ping me when the SotD is updated
  106. # [15:13] <ArtB> and it passes pub rules ;-)
  107. # [15:13] <MikeSmith> fwiw, I will not be around to help with publication
  108. # [15:13] <MikeSmith> because I will be traveling
  109. # [15:13] <MikeSmith> and I think Doug is away tomrrow too
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  111. # [15:14] <MikeSmith> so you guys will be on your own with the webmaster
  112. # [15:14] <MikeSmith> plh may be able to help if needed
  113. # [15:14] <ArtB> MikeSmith - if Anne goes for an Aug 9 pub, can you help?
  114. # [15:14] <MikeSmith> yeah, sure
  115. # [15:20] <anne> i can deal with the guy
  116. # [15:20] <anne> though I guess since he's new it might be best if someone from the Team helps out
  117. # [15:22] <ArtB> anne, MikeSmith - let's go for an August 9 publication date with an comment period ending September 1
  118. # [15:23] <ArtB> ok, Anne?
  119. # [15:24] <anne> sure
  120. # [15:24] <MikeSmith> roger that
  121. # [15:24] <ArtB> IETF'ers - if a LC draft has substantial changes, is a new LC draft mandatory? [Based on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JulSep/0601.html , it appears the answer is No]
  122. # [15:25] <ArtB> alrighty then, please ping me Anne when the SotD reflects those two dates and LC
  123. # [15:26] <MikeSmith> oh, so after all that churn, the hybi WG is just going to be dropping the compression stuff anyway?
  124. # [15:27] <MikeSmith> the minutes at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg08030.html don't actually say anything about that, afaict
  125. # [15:28] <ArtB> "- Remove deflate-stream from the base spec --Agreed"
  126. # [15:28] <MikeSmith> oh, OK
  127. # [15:28] <ArtB> specify the framework in 1 spec and additional layered features in separate specs
  128. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> I see
  129. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> well, that's what Hixie advocated for from the beginning
  130. # [15:29] <ArtB> who woulda' thunk ;-)
  131. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> what a great way to waste a lot of time and energy
  132. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> who came up with deflate-stream?
  133. # 06[15:30] * ArtB looks for a pointer to the Positive Work Environment doc ;-)
  134. # [15:31] <anne> done: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/
  135. # [15:32] <anne> ArtB, can we start a CfC for DOM Core too?
  136. # [15:33] <anne> ArtB, and XHR2 too maybe?
  137. # 06[15:33] * anne wonders if there are any other drafts that need updating
  138. # [15:35] <ArtB> XHR v1
  139. # [15:35] <anne> well that's in CR
  140. # [15:36] <anne> the plan there sort of was to wait for implementations of the test suite I thought and then go through the whole thing once more
  141. # [15:36] <ArtB> but it has a bug that will require a new LC, IIRC
  142. # [15:36] <anne> yeah several
  143. # [15:36] <anne> but I don't think that's worth pursuing until implementations start paying attention
  144. # [15:36] <anne> if they ever will
  145. # [15:38] <ArtB> anne, for XHR2 and DOM Core, you mean _plain_ WD?
  146. # [15:38] <ArtB> ... for the CfC?
  147. # [15:40] <anne> yes
  148. # [15:40] <ArtB> anne, I think we agreed to publish the PE LC on August 9 (not 3)
  149. # [15:42] <anne> hmm I wonder what goes wrong with Anolis
  150. # [15:42] <anne> I used 9 Aug 2011 as argument
  151. # [15:43] <Ms2ger> Well yeah, blame me :)
  152. # [15:45] <anne> oops my bad
  153. # [15:46] <anne> ArtB, fixed
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  155. # [15:49] <ArtB> thanks anne; pubreq sent
  156. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> anne, so are we merging Range before or after this WD?
  157. # [16:26] <anne> after
  158. # [16:26] <anne> when I reviewed Range some more I guess
  159. # [16:27] <anne> html.json is quite outdated :(
  160. # [16:27] <anne> well a couple of links are
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  205. # [22:41] <Josh_Soref> > A footer typically contains information about its section such as who wrote it, links to related documents, copyright data, an[d] the like
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  208. # [22:41] <Ms2ger> HTML?
  209. # [22:49] <anne> it's good that you use your other name every now and then
  210. # [22:49] <anne> cause sometimes I forget who the real timeless is :)
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  213. # [22:51] <Ms2ger> Tim E. Less, no?
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