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  72. # [18:49] <ArtB> anne re "abandoned" in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JulSep/0454.html
  73. # [18:49] <ArtB> … can you elaborate a bit on what you mean?
  74. # [18:49] <ArtB> … e.g. by whom?
  75. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> The only people who matter, browser vendors? :)
  76. # [18:50] <ArtB> ms2ger, did any browser implement that spec?
  77. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> Mozilla did
  78. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> At least somewhat
  79. # [18:51] <ArtB> and no apps/documents use them?
  80. # [18:51] <smaug> I don't know why "somewhat"
  81. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> ArtB, the members of these interfaces are defined in HTML now
  82. # [18:55] <ArtB> so, I'm asking myself, if these attributes are added to HTML5, are they the "ideas" really "abandoned"
  83. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> The indirection provided by these interfaces? yes
  84. # [18:59] <ArtB> Ms2ger, in your own words, what are the essential points you want to make?
  85. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> "This spec sucks"
  86. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> Something like that? :)
  87. # [19:00] <ArtB> the spec is ~1/2 of 1 page
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  89. # [19:08] <anne> ArtB, the concept that a document can have multiple views never got traction
  90. # [19:09] <anne> ArtB, that Document and the global object have a connection is true, but that is not because of views
  91. # [19:09] <anne> ArtB, and only takes about one paragraph
  92. # [19:11] <ArtB> anne, I think the text should be a bit clearer. We can talk about it here or on public-webapps. Do you have a pref?
  93. # [19:11] <Ms2ger> Please don't dump that into my inbox
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  95. # [19:12] <ArtB> well adding "This spec sucks" isn't gonna' fly ;-)
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  97. # [19:12] <Ms2ger> :(
  98. # [19:12] <ArtB> Adrian said " A note in the status
  99. # [19:12] <ArtB> section indicating that on-going work to supersede this document is being
  100. # [19:12] <ArtB> done in the HTML5 specification would be appropriate.
  101. # [19:12] <ArtB> "
  102. # [19:14] <anne> ArtB, we could just say "The concepts this document defines are obsolete. The IDL attributes it defines are being defined in HTML5 with simplified semantics."
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  104. # [19:15] <anne> and then "The WebApps WG encourages implementation of these concepts as defined by HTML5."
  105. # [19:15] <ArtB> Anne, I like that more
  106. # [19:16] <ArtB> how about s/IDL attributes/'document' and 'defaultView' attributes/
  107. # [19:16] <anne> sure
  108. # [19:17] <ArtB> I think the two sentences used in the CSS notes are reasonable additions. WDYT Anne?
  109. # [19:17] <anne> "This paragraph is informative. This document is currently not maintained." ?
  110. # [19:17] <ArtB> yes
  111. # [19:17] <anne> sure
  112. # [19:18] <anne> maybe strike currently
  113. # [19:19] <ArtB> so I think this means:
  114. # [19:19] <ArtB> [[
  115. # [19:19] <ArtB> Note: This paragraph is informative. This document is currently not maintained. The concepts this document defines are obsolete. The 'document' and 'defaultView' attributes are being defined in HTML5 with simplified semantics. The Web Applications WG encourages implementation of these concepts as defined by HTML5.
  116. # [19:19] <ArtB> ]]
  117. # [19:19] <anne> sounds good
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