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  7. # [00:04] <@Garbee> frozenice: Nice.
  8. # [00:04] <@Garbee> It seems every time I try to use yo webapp or yo angular it breaks. :/
  9. # [00:04] <@Garbee> So, I've given up for a while.
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  153. # [19:40] <@shepazu> frozenice, I'm thinking about change monitoring with bots… I saw you and Garbee got rid of some spam the other day… how common is that?
  154. # [19:40] <@shepazu> and I wonder if we could automate that, or have smart alerts?
  155. # [19:40] <@frozenice> fairly, all the new (spam-)users seem to have a filled-out profile
  156. # [19:41] <@frozenice> actually editing of pages to insert spam is rare, though
  157. # [19:41] <@shepazu> frozenice, what do you mean?
  158. # [19:41] <@frozenice> http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?namespace=2&tagfilter=&title=Special%3ARecentChanges
  159. # [19:41] <@shepazu> like, first edit by a new user is always flagged, in some way...
  160. # [19:41] <@frozenice> check their profiles
  161. # [19:42] <@shepazu> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Tonia5863qgyzo
  162. # [19:43] <@frozenice> yeah that's just one :P
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  164. # [19:44] <@shepazu> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://libertyclub.eu/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http://libertyclub.eu/wp-admin/&amp;reauth=1">libertyclub.eu</a>
  165. # [19:44] <@frozenice> I haven't seen actual spam-edits to normal pages in a long time, maybe since we put in the mandatory edits (except the one some days ago)
  166. # [19:44] <@frozenice> yes every link has nofollow
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  169. # [19:45] <@shepazu> frozenice, so dumb...
  170. # [19:45] <@frozenice> sucks nonetheless
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  172. # [19:45] <@shepazu> they are wasting out time so much, for nothing
  173. # [19:46] <@frozenice> well it's not nothing :) it's there
  174. # [19:46] <@Garbee> Spammers sadly don't care.
  175. # [19:46] <@shepazu> any edit which adds a link, from a new user, should be blocked or moderated
  176. # [19:47] <@Garbee> As long as the link gets put somewhere.
  177. # [19:47] <@Garbee> adds an *external* link.
  178. # [19:47] <@Garbee> Internal linkage is fine.
  179. # [19:47] <@shepazu> yes
  180. # [19:47] <@frozenice> I think we could do that with the rules-thingy
  181. # [19:47] <@shepazu> rules-thingy?
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  183. # [19:48] <@frozenice> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter
  184. # [19:49] <@frozenice> dunno if this triggers on the SocialProfile creation though
  185. # [19:49] <@Garbee> Yea, it can do external link stuff.
  186. # [19:49] <@Garbee> profile/user page creation should be filtered just like any other page I'd assume.
  187. # [19:50] <@shepazu> I suspect that if we enabled that rule, and flagged those accounts for review, we could do maintainance pretty easily
  188. # [19:50] <@shepazu> and get rid of spam accounts
  189. # [19:50] <@shepazu> not stop them from creating them, but delete them once we know
  190. # [19:51] <@Garbee> Deletion of accounts isn't recommended on MediaWiki, for any reason.
  191. # [19:51] <@shepazu> hmmm… but anyone creating a profile would put a link to their site…
  192. # [19:51] <@shepazu> hmmm
  193. # [19:51] <@Garbee> Unless we install the account delete extension.
  194. # [19:52] <@Garbee> That should handle it better than manual deletion.
  195. # [19:53] <@shepazu> maybe we add a threshold for adding external links
  196. # [19:53] <@Garbee> Adding a filter for external linkage and flagging it won't stop bots from doing it. We just need an alert system so when it occurs two or three people get a notice to check it out.
  197. # [19:53] <@shepazu> X# of approved edits to the wiki itself
  198. # [19:55] <@shepazu> it would need an integrated karma system
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  202. # [20:13] <@Garbee> Abuse filters can filter by number of edits.
  203. # [20:13] <@Garbee> iirc
  204. # [20:14] <@Garbee> yup.
  205. # [20:14] <@Garbee> user_editcount
  206. # [20:14] <@Garbee> No need for Karma, at least in MediaWiki.
  207. # [20:14] <@Garbee> If we were to write our own software that would be the way to go.
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