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  73. # [12:01] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: thanks for the latest set of xml-stylesheet test cases
  74. # [12:02] <MikeSmith> I think I've now got handling for all those behaving as expected
  75. # [12:02] <MikeSmith> when you have time, please test and let me know
  76. # [12:02] <MikeSmith> i'm going through the previous test cases now to make sure the latest changes didn't introduce any regressions
  77. # [12:03] <MikeSmith> oops
  78. # [12:03] <MikeSmith> get some build errors
  79. # [12:07] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: should the ...all/ checker enable the xml-stylesheet checker?
  80. # [12:07] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: iirc i had to type in the checker url manually when i tested
  81. # [12:08] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: I think the all/ checker enables it
  82. # [12:09] <MikeSmith> I'm not setting anything manually when I test
  83. # [12:09] <MikeSmith> I just set the preset to XHTML5
  84. # [12:09] <zcorpan> ok
  85. # [12:10] <zcorpan> i can't connect to qa-dev atm
  86. # [12:13] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: yep, I'm working on it .. had a build problem
  87. # [12:13] <MikeSmith> I should have it back in a 5 minutes or so
  88. # [12:19] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: OK, it's back
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  91. # [12:27] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: I have checking for the charset pseudo-attribute in my workspace
  92. # [12:27] <MikeSmith> lemme know if you want me to push that up to qa-dev too
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  94. # [12:38] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: <?xml-stylesheet href=?> gives Error: Duplicate xml-stylesheet pseudo-attribute href.
  95. # [12:39] <MikeSmith> hmm, OK
  96. # [12:39] <MikeSmith> will try to fix that now
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  99. # [12:42] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: is it possible to have a look at the code?
  100. # [12:43] <MikeSmith> yeah, I can post a patch to bugzilla
  101. # [12:43] <MikeSmith> hang on a minute
  102. # [12:45] <MikeSmith> clearly I've somehow got it adding the attribute name twice for that case
  103. # [12:48] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: regarding multiple xslt pis, i think firefox ignores all but the *last* (but other browsers use the first)
  104. # [12:48] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/attachment.cgi?id=135
  105. # [12:48] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: thanks
  106. # [12:48] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: hmm, that's kind of bad
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  108. # [12:49] <zcorpan> what's the windows1252 stuff?
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  110. # [12:51] <zcorpan> <?xml-stylesheet href="" title="&#x0D;"?> should be valid
  111. # [12:51] <zcorpan> see XML LegalChar
  112. # [12:52] <zcorpan> (maybe xml 1.0 4ed LegalChar; ask hsivonen for advice)
  113. # [12:52] <zcorpan> if they're different
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  115. # [12:53] <zcorpan> you might want to test "EOF" inside entity and ncr, too
  116. # [12:53] <MikeSmith> OK
  117. # [12:53] <MikeSmith> that stuff is all just from the htmlparser Tokenizer code
  118. # [12:54] <MikeSmith> so I probably need to tweak it further to align with XML spec
  119. # [12:55] <MikeSmith> man, I can see already I have some kruft around the adding of attributes that I need to clean up
  120. # [12:58] <zcorpan> <?xml-stylesheet href="" title="&"?> should be invalid
  121. # [12:58] <MikeSmith> hmm, yeah
  122. # [12:58] <MikeSmith> that one will be harder to fix
  123. # [12:59] <MikeSmith> I've got the duplicate-attribute thing fixed in my workspace
  124. # [13:00] <MikeSmith> just needed to remove conditionals around lines 482 and 518
  125. # [13:01] <MikeSmith> you want to me to push the change to qa-dev now?
  126. # [13:01] <zcorpan> naw it's ok
  127. # [13:01] <zcorpan> not sure it's good to single out checking for "<"
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  130. # [13:05] <zcorpan> but maybe it is
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  132. # [13:07] <zcorpan> yeah, it is, i'm just not thinking clearly
  133. # [13:07] <MikeSmith> OK
  134. # [13:11] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: type="TEXT/XML" ... should be case-insensitive
  135. # [13:11] <MikeSmith> OK
  136. # [13:11] <MikeSmith> I thought I had it that way already
  137. # [13:11] <MikeSmith> but I guess not
  138. # [13:12] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: and should maybe even recognize things like "text/xml; charset=utf-8"
  139. # [13:12] <MikeSmith> I think it does do that already, at least
  140. # [13:12] <zcorpan> but maybe that's hard and not worth the bother
  141. # [13:12] <zcorpan> oh
  142. # [13:12] <MikeSmith> I'm just using the existing HTML5 datatype library for checking that
  143. # [13:13] <MikeSmith> so if it doesn't work for the PI, it means it's broken elsewhere too
  144. # [13:16] <zcorpan> if ("application/xml".equals(attrValue)
  145. # [13:17] <zcorpan> this is for the multiple xslt whining
  146. # [13:17] <MikeSmith> yeah
  147. # [13:17] <MikeSmith> should I remove that?
  148. # [13:18] <MikeSmith> application/xml is the actual recommended mime type, isn't it?
  149. # [13:18] <MikeSmith> I do realize it doesn't work across browsers
  150. # [13:18] <MikeSmith> I will add the warning stuff after this
  151. # [13:18] <MikeSmith> with a link to the wiki page
  152. # [13:18] <zcorpan> my point is ideally it should be case-insensitive and support parameters
  153. # [13:19] <zcorpan> so <?xml-stylesheet href="" type="TEXT/XML"?><?xml-stylesheet href="" type="application/xml; charset=utf-8"?> should give a message about multiple xslt pi
  154. # [13:19] <MikeSmith> ah, OK
  155. # [13:23] <MikeSmith> so I could lowercase the string before comparing and then just use startsWith()
  156. # [13:23] <MikeSmith> I think
  157. # [13:27] <zcorpan> type="text/xslLOL"
  158. # [13:27] <zcorpan> just lowecasing is probably good enough
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