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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jul 30 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:02] <AryehGregor> w
  4. # [00:02] <AryehGregor> a
  5. # [00:02] <AryehGregor> Ack.
  6. # [00:02] <AryehGregor> Awesome, Last Call feedback in the form of a Word document attached to a bug. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461
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  20. # [00:30] <jgraham> AryehGregor: I assume when the members of the Association of American Publishers publish dictionaries they will use this as an example of irony
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  27. # [00:33] <jgraham> (unrelated fact: I am told that my friend's sister worked in Malaysia with Alanis Morrisette's English teacher. Rumours that she had fled Canada after being unable to face the shme are, however, almost certainly false)
  28. # [00:33] <annevk> Wi-Fi on the plane
  29. # [00:35] <jgraham> Or as Samuel L. Jackson would put it, motherfuckin' Wi-Fi on the motherfuckin' plane
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  33. # [00:36] <annevk> SEO of specs
  34. # [00:37] <annevk> lol
  35. # [00:37] <Hixie> solid technical grounds, those
  36. # [00:38] <Hixie> which spec matches implementations?
  37. # [00:39] <annevk> I think theirs might match implementations, but if we want to get rid of EventException DOM Core is the way to go
  38. # [00:39] <Hixie> do we want to get rid of EventException?
  39. # [00:40] <Hixie> i thought we'd decided we were gonna have lots of new exception interfaces and they'd each have different names or something
  40. # [00:40] <Hixie> or was the decision something else
  41. # [00:40] <annevk> I'm not sure what the decision there was
  42. # [00:40] <Hixie> i forget what that discussion concluded
  43. # [00:40] <annevk> I don't think it has yet
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  45. # [00:41] <annevk> anyway, having a new exception for one method where INVALID_STATE_ERR already matches the semantics seems dumb
  46. # [00:41] <Hixie> can't disagree there
  47. # [00:41] <Hixie> but if it's already implemented, that ship may have sailed
  48. # [00:41] <Hixie> especially if it's interoperable
  49. # [00:44] <annevk> i'm not sure it's interoperable
  50. # [00:44] <annevk> I think WebKit didn't fire it
  51. # [00:44] <Hixie> oh i thought you said the other spec matched implementations
  52. # [00:44] <annevk> well some of them
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  58. # [00:59] <hober> AryehGregor: ok, replied on list
  59. # [00:59] <hober> AryehGregor: (finally)
  60. # [01:02] <hober> AryehGregor: haahahaha, I replied on the wrong thread, sorry. stop writing so many emails that I flag in my mailer as needing attention! :)
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  79. # [01:36] <Hixie> wtf, sort(1) just decided my locale had changed
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  84. # [01:53] <annevk> that sounds kind of weird
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  103. # [02:40] <heycam> hopefully not mid-sort...
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  106. # [02:47] <annevk5> heycam, btw, I found one more problem with putting event handlers into DOM Core
  107. # [02:48] <heycam> oh yes?
  108. # [02:48] <annevk5> heycam, if you look at the bits where it sets scope for content attributes it references the HTML form element
  109. # [02:48] <annevk5> heycam, as well as defaulting to the Window object or some such
  110. # [02:48] <heycam> bah
  111. # [02:49] <annevk5> yeah, maybe just the IDL attributes ought to be moved
  112. # [02:49] <annevk5> and languages define content attributes themselves and how they map for now
  113. # [02:49] <heycam> ok, it's not too much work
  114. # [02:49] <heycam> you can have a hook for that in DOM Core for simple ones
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  177. # [05:13] <Hixie> i do believe hober volunteered to spec innerText
  178. # [05:13] <Hixie> :-P
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  304. # [16:05] <annevk> Did we ever consider standardizing the contains() method?
  305. # [16:05] <annevk> I cannot find it in hg log
  306. # [16:05] <annevk> Gecko does not have it, but Presto/WebKit/Trident do
  307. # [16:06] <annevk> boolean = Element.contains(Element)
  308. # [16:10] <Ms2ger> Never heard of
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  315. # [16:41] <The_8472> annevk, is that about layout or dom traversal?
  316. # [16:42] <annevk> traversal
  317. # [16:42] <annevk> I wonder where the actual code for that method is located in WebKit
  318. # [16:42] <The_8472> then you can just iterate over the parents... it's just a few lines of code.
  319. # [16:43] <annevk> sure or you can use compareDocumentPosition
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  321. # [16:46] <bga_> annevk you can standardtize _commonMinParent(node1, node2) because via Range API its so slow and look like hack
  322. # [16:47] <annevk> I'm not sure what you mean
  323. # [16:49] <bga_> get 2 nodes and find min parent node that contains given 2 nodes
  324. # [16:49] <bga_> min parent, not documentElement
  325. # [16:49] <annevk> and why do you want this?
  326. # [16:53] <bga_> annevk i can move parent <ul> by 2 given <li> even if one <li> is is deep inside
  327. # [16:55] <bga_> btw this operation can be generalized to many input nodes
  328. # [16:59] <The_8472> getNearestCommonAncestor would be a better name i think
  329. # [17:00] <bga_> yeah
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  439. # [21:37] <mhausenblas> gsnedders: re 'wish there was an IRC channel where JS people lurked' - I'd give #Node.js a try ;)
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  441. # [21:38] <gsnedders> mhausenblas: Probably rather bias towards V8. :)
  442. # [21:38] <mhausenblas> oh well :P
  443. # [21:38] <mhausenblas> seems rather busy there tbh
  444. # [21:39] <mhausenblas> anyways ... /me back to https://github.com/mhausenblas/web.instata
  445. # [21:39] <gsnedders> (Node.js is based on V8, so, well, yeah.)
  446. # [21:39] <mhausenblas> sure
  447. # [21:39] <mhausenblas> but my impression was that quite some JS people hang out there
  448. # [21:40] <mhausenblas> laters
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  477. # [23:27] <jgraham> Surely HTML5 doesn't really use "child" to mean "descendant"
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  479. # [23:39] <foolip_> jgraham, [citation needed]
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