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  49. # [04:27] <crocket> hi
  50. # [04:27] <crocket> Will there be a volume attribute for <video> an <audio> tags in case some internet boards don't allow javascript?
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  82. # [07:16] <annevk> crocket, I don't think there are plans for that
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  104. # [09:50] <crocket> hmm
  105. # [09:50] <crocket> Please make a plan to place a volume attribute in <audio> and <video> tags.
  106. # [09:51] <Ms2ger> Why?
  107. # [09:51] <crocket> On internet boards that don't allow javascripts, the initial volume should be set with a tag attribute.
  108. # [09:52] <crocket> Ms2ger, You know most of internet boards prohibit javascripts for security.
  109. # [09:52] <Ms2ger> Why would you need to set the volume?
  110. # [09:52] <crocket> The default volume is 100%
  111. # [09:52] <crocket> which is too loud for some audio files.
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  113. # [09:52] <crocket> I need to pre-configure it to be 10~20%.
  114. # [09:53] <crocket> I don't want to surprise people with music.
  115. # [09:53] <crocket> I myself was surprised many times with 100% volume.
  116. # [09:53] <crocket> BGM
  117. # [09:54] <crocket> Ms2ger, interested
  118. # [09:54] <crocket> Ms2ger, interested?
  119. # [09:54] <Ms2ger> Not particularly, but it's not me you have to convince
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  138. # [11:33] <hsivonen> I haven't incremented the version number of Validator.nu in ages. I think I should change the version number to "Living Validator@
  139. # [11:33] <hsivonen> s/@/"/
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  177. # [16:41] <Hixie> hsivonen: google search doesn't show a version number
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  181. # [17:00] <david_carlisle> whatwg weekly highlighted that microdata attributes don't apply to MathML. If we wanted them to apply to MathML, what would be the right course of action?
  182. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> One hint: it's not namespaces ;)
  183. # [17:03] <david_carlisle> good:-)
  184. # [17:09] <david_carlisle> Ms2ger: I don't think an author a document should be too concerned with which WG specified which element, so if microdata works in most places I'd rather it worked in mathml too
  185. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> Makes sense
  186. # [17:10] <david_carlisle> Ms2ger: but as noted in the topic of this channel, sense isn't always enough
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  189. # [17:14] <Ms2ger> I'm sure Hixie can tell you how to approach it :)
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  197. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> TabAtkins, should there be an obsoletion notice on css3-cascade?
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  200. # [17:39] <TabAtkins_> Ms2ger: The WG decided no, since we're going to chunk the "value computation steps" from Values to Cascade.
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  205. # [17:46] <TabAtkins_> (In other words, we plan to attach an editor to it.)
  206. # [17:46] <Ms2ger> And editor time? :)
  207. # [17:46] <TabAtkins_> Editors are composed of editor time. Names by themselves don't qualify as editors. ^_^
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  212. # [17:52] <smaug____> Ms2ger: default value for optional boolean parameter is false, right?
  213. # [17:52] <Ms2ger> Yes
  214. # [17:52] <Ms2ger> Unless stated otherwise in prose
  215. # [17:53] <smaug____> ah, right
  216. # [17:53] <smaug____> ok
  217. # [17:53] <smaug____> I'm thinking about importNode
  218. # [17:54] <smaug____> webkit supports optional parameter (probably the generic bug to allow leaving out some parameters), but it defaults to deep=false
  219. # [17:54] <Ms2ger> Mm
  220. # [17:54] <Ms2ger> And the spec defaults to true
  221. # [17:54] <smaug____> well, spec makes more sense
  222. # [17:54] <smaug____> er
  223. # [17:54] <smaug____> I mean true means more sense in this case
  224. # [17:55] <Ms2ger> Agreed
  225. # [17:56] <smaug____> s/means/makes/
  226. # [17:56] <smaug____> ugh
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  292. # [22:01] <Ms2ger> And the WG is redesigning gradients again!
  293. # [22:03] <smaug____> nice
  294. # [22:03] <smaug____> I wonder how many different syntaxes there has been
  295. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> I don't want to know
  296. # [22:04] <Rik`___> they can't even choose the room temperature :)
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  298. # [22:05] <smaug____> Ms2ger: btw, I tried to change the component of your webkit bug, but could figure out any what component could be the right one
  299. # [22:05] <smaug____> s/could/couldn't/
  300. # [22:05] <Ms2ger> Same here
  301. # [22:05] <smaug____> why am I typing so badly today
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  306. # [22:12] <Ms2ger> smaug____, yep, random insanity is what we spec writers are good at ;)
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  309. # [22:14] <smaug____> sorry :)
  310. # [22:15] <Ms2ger> Well, it's true
  311. # [22:16] <Ms2ger> But we really should get you to write some specs yourself ;)
  312. # [22:17] <smaug____> obviously it would be full of random typing errors
  313. # [22:17] <smaug____> but otherwise 100% sane
  314. # [22:18] <smaug____> well, I could try first 10% sanity level
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  316. # [22:20] <Ms2ger> :)
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