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  211. # [23:12] <rniwa> annevk: hi anne
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  213. # [23:15] <annevk> hey rniwa
  214. # [23:15] <rniwa> annevk: how are you doing?
  215. # [23:16] <annevk> pretty good, bit sleepy :)
  216. # [23:16] <rniwa> annevk: I see. I'm a bit confused about the whole discussion on HTMLCollection
  217. # [23:16] <annevk> still trying to get used to the cold after my shortish break
  218. # [23:17] <rniwa> annevk: oh oops, that sucks.
  219. # [23:17] <rniwa> annevk: hopefully it gets better.
  220. # [23:17] <annevk> well I think sicking wants to add new members to e.g. NodeList at some point
  221. # [23:17] <rniwa> annevk: yeah, that makes sense.
  222. # [23:17] <rniwa> annevk: but do you think he's opposed to make getElement*by* return HTMLCollection?
  223. # [23:18] <annevk> HTMLCollection has a named getter which would make that difficult if e.g. someone used an ID anywhere on the web and that matches the new member name while also using HTMLCollection in some way
  224. # [23:18] <rniwa> annevk: as I noted on the thread, I filed a WebKit bug and was intending to work on it this weekend or so
  225. # [23:18] <rniwa> but it sounded as if jonas doesn't want that.
  226. # [23:19] <annevk> I think he was somewhat opposed to getElementsByClassName, not the others
  227. # [23:20] <rniwa> annevk: I see.
  228. # [23:20] <rniwa> annevk: FWIW, we're never got complaints about named getters so maybe we can disable that feature?
  229. # [23:20] <rniwa> we've*
  230. # [23:21] <annevk> I think even WebKit has a named getter for getElementsByTagName
  231. # [23:21] <annevk> bz pointed that out
  232. # [23:21] <rniwa> annevk: ah, you're right.
  233. # [23:21] <rniwa> annevk: we had that extension on NodeList :(
  234. # [23:21] <annevk> yeah so this change would mean you can try to clean that up
  235. # [23:22] <annevk> gonna go watch some parks and recreation
  236. # [23:22] <rniwa> annevk: I will definitely do that assuming there's no compat. issues
  237. # [23:23] <rniwa> annevk: alright. ttyl.
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  241. # [23:33] <zewt> hmm, would be nice to get HTML's use of "default action" updated to use DOM4 terms (canceled flag) ... low editorial priority, i assume
  242. # [23:34] <zewt> rniwa: objc is one of the few languages that simply doesn't make even the most basic intuitive sense to me
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  244. # [23:34] <zewt> putting aside weirdo functional languages, I guess
  245. # [23:35] <rniwa> zewt: like prolog?
  246. # [23:36] <rniwa> zewt: I mean it's a declarative language. but I find declarative programming languages even less intuitive than functional programming languages.
  247. # [23:37] <zewt> annevk: is the preferred way to look at "canceled flag" after dispatch to refer to the flag directly, or to use the return value of the "dispatch" algo
  248. # [23:37] <zewt> the latter seems more natural to me (but then there'd be no reason to have the return value at all, I think)
  249. # [23:38] <zewt> er
  250. # [23:38] <zewt> the former looks more natural (using the flag directly)
  251. # [23:44] <annevk> zewt: you'd use fire so there's no return value I think
  252. # [23:46] <annevk> could maybe move the return value to dispatchEvent()
  253. # [23:46] <zewt> "fire" only lets you create a basic Event, for events with other interfaces, etc. you want dispatch directly, right?
  254. # [23:46] <zewt> that's what i was thinking
  255. # [23:46] <annevk> no fire is also used for events with other interfaces
  256. # [23:46] <annevk> you'd use a modified fire definition
  257. # [23:46] <zewt> how? sounds contradictory
  258. # [23:47] <annevk> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/#firing-events-using-the-progressevent-interface-for-http
  259. # [23:47] <annevk> because otherwise you also need to set the trusted flag, etc.
  260. # [23:47] <zewt> yeah that looks contradictory
  261. # [23:47] <zewt> it's saying "dispatch an event using the Event interface using the ProgressEvent interface" :)
  262. # [23:48] <zewt> not that it's not obvious what's really meant
  263. # [23:48] <annevk> not if you read it in the way that it's overriding
  264. # [23:48] <annevk> which is more logical imo
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  266. # [23:51] <zewt> replying to clipboard thread suggesting:
  267. # [23:51] <zewt> 7. Fire an event using the ClipboardEvent interface, with its type attribute initialized to e and its clipboardData attribute initialized to data transfer, at event target. If the event's canceled flag is set then abort these steps.
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  269. # [23:55] <annevk> the if statement should prolly be step 8 for clarity
  270. # [23:55] <zewt> it was before, i moved it into 7 based on http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/association-of-controls-and-forms.html#form-submission-algorithm step 6
  271. # [23:56] <annevk> hmm
  272. # [23:56] <zewt> seems like having a concise pattern for this is good ... not sure if it's unclear or not
  273. # [23:57] <annevk> maybe I should postpone encoding stuff a bit more and work on DOM next week too
  274. # [23:59] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
  275. # [23:59] <zewt> let me know if you think strongly one way or the other; don't want to bait people like paul by going back and forth
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