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  160. # [17:25] <zewt> dreaming of a world where dom events never had the bubbles and cancelable flags
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  189. # [20:44] <Hixie> zewt: the cancelable flag is a particularly useless one
  190. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> Pff
  191. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> Half the web is useless
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  201. # [20:59] <Hixie> i dunno about _that_
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  203. # [21:02] <zewt> cancelable should be relegated to web-compatibility only and otherwise never even mentioned in specs
  204. # [21:03] <zewt> all events should be cancelable unless there's some weird web-compat reason otherwise
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  212. # [21:18] <Hixie> zewt: it's less work for me to keep just speccing it as is (cancelable if canceling has an effect, not otherwise) than it would be to go through and change everything...
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  214. # [21:18] <zewt> well, changing the ones that are implemented already is probably not worth it, but new events should just always be cancelable
  215. # [21:19] <Hixie> i think it'd be worse for half the events to make sense and the other half to be always cancelable than for us to continue to just do it
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  218. # [21:22] <zewt> but always being cancelable makes more sense, since the whole concept of uncancellable events doesn't make sense :)
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  230. # [22:04] <Hixie> zewt: sure it does
  231. # [22:04] <Hixie> zewt: i mean, it's not useful, but it makes sense
  232. # [22:05] <Hixie> zewt: it just means that the code that invoked the event will not check whether the event was canceled or nat
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  236. # [22:21] <gsnedders> hsivonen, jgraham, abarth: do we really want tests for <main> in html5lib when it's not in the spec
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  240. # [22:32] <gsnedders> Also, wow, nice. We now have the tokenizer depending on the parser. Yay.
  241. # [22:33] <Hixie> for what?
  242. # [22:33] <gsnedders> In html5lib. For the CDATA state.
  243. # [22:34] <Hixie> is that all?
  244. # [22:34] <Hixie> i thought the parser could switch the tokeniser state for other things too
  245. # [22:34] <gsnedders> Yeah, otherwise the parser just manipulates the tokenizer state.
  246. # [22:34] <Hixie> e.g. <plaintext>
  247. # [22:34] <Hixie> ah
  248. # [22:34] <Hixie> what's the difference here?
  249. # [22:35] <gsnedders> Tokenizer looking at the parser, not parser mutating tokenizer.
  250. # [22:35] <Hixie> ah, k. i guess i forget what's special about cdata.
  251. # [22:35] <Hixie> it's been a whiel.
  252. # [22:35] <Hixie> while.
  253. # [22:35] <gsnedders> Foreign content is top of the stack.
  254. # [22:36] <Hixie> ah, right
  255. # [22:36] <Hixie> could probably be implemented as state the other way too
  256. # [22:36] <gsnedders> Or bottom of the stack, depending on who's listening.
  257. # [22:36] <Hixie> oh man, that's something i should have listed as one of my biggest mistakes
  258. # [22:36] <Hixie> what a mess
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  260. # [22:38] <abarth> gsnedders: The <main> thing seems like a tempest in a teapot
  261. # [22:38] <abarth> gsnedders: I'm just ignoring it figuring that it doesn't matter
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  264. # [22:41] <gsnedders> abarth: I'm just somewhat irked by the tests failing :P
  265. # [22:41] <abarth> can we move them to a "proposed" directory or something?
  266. # [22:42] <gsnedders> Not really. html5lib just names tests *.dat, and there's little attention paid to file names in most runners, AFAIK.
  267. # [22:47] <abarth> I mean that we could move the "dat" file to a different directory
  268. # [22:47] <abarth> so that it's not run until the behavior it is tested is "accepted" in some sense
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  270. # [22:47] <gsnedders> Yeah, I guess. hsivonen: you care if we move the main tests to a separate file in a proposed folder?
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  277. # [23:11] <Hixie> do browsers not implement Element.querySelector()?
  278. # [23:13] <Hixie> nevermind, i'm a tool
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