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  32. # [01:32] <annevk> gsnedders: Python has the same flaw though right?
  33. # [01:33] <annevk> gsnedders: you couldn't implement a web environment on top of Python and reuse their string implementation
  34. # [01:33] <gsnedders> annevk: Huh?
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  36. # [01:33] <annevk> gsnedders: might be okay for Python though, seems unlikely you'd implement a browser in it
  37. # [01:33] <gsnedders> annevk: Oh, sure, because it's the full codepoint range.
  38. # [01:33] <gsnedders> annevk: Hey, SimonSapin did. Sort of.
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  40. # [01:34] <annevk> gsnedders: full code point range even in 8-bit mode?
  41. # [01:34] <gsnedders> annevk: It's transparent.
  42. # [01:34] <annevk> gsnedders: does it use CESU-8?
  43. # [01:35] <gsnedders> annevk: You only have a abstract unicode type, supporting any codepoint, that changes its internal representation magically.
  44. # [01:35] <annevk> gsnedders: k, I guess that might be good enough
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  57. # [02:12] <Domenic_> is https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/templates/index.html worthwhile or has that all been rolled into WHATWG HTML?
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  59. # [02:13] <sweb> W3c is dead with accept DRM
  60. # [02:15] <annevk> Domenic_: folded in
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  171. # [08:27] <crocket> Does an iframe have its own javascript environment?
  172. # [08:27] <crocket> Or is its javascript environment integrated with the parent doc?
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  201. # [10:08] <SimonSapin> annevk: what flaw?
  202. # [10:09] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: well WeasyPrint does not have JS at all, so doesn’t care about JS strings
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  254. # [11:40] <annevk> Oh wow, Flash is already no longer being maintained for Linux: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902630#c5
  255. # [11:41] <annevk> Correction, the NPAPI version of Flash
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  275. # [13:00] <MikeSmith> is the current Promises feature in the DOM spec based on Promises/A+ ?
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  277. # [13:02] <MikeSmith> Domenic_: ↑
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  290. # [13:22] <MikeSmith> nm
  291. # [13:22] <MikeSmith> after taking time to actually read the current spec I see it's now just referencing https://github.com/domenic/promises-unwrapping/blob/master/README.md
  292. # [13:24] <MikeSmith> I guess I ought to try to keep up with es-discuss
  293. # [13:27] <MikeSmith> whah.. Promise.race
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  298. # [13:41] <MikeSmith> so I wonder what exactly is being implemented now in blink
  299. # [13:42] <MikeSmith> what document they are implementing from
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  331. # [14:59] <annevk> dglazkov: HTML Imports, scripts executing in the imported document, might find it weird what document refers to
  332. # [15:03] <Ms2ger> zcorpan: r? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/34
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  334. # [15:10] <jeena_> I would like to write to the appropriate W3C mailing list about it but there seems to be a really huge amount of them so I'm confused to which one I should write.
  335. # [15:11] <jeena_> I wanted to write and suggest to send forms if the user presses Cmd+Enter/Ctrl+Enter in a form, this especially should work in a textarea.
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  337. # [15:12] <annevk> jeena_: that's UI and we can't really dictate UI in specifications
  338. # [15:12] <jeena_> Just like Gmail does it, but for every form in every browser (like Enter in a <input> works now)
  339. # [15:12] <annevk> jeena_: you can file bugs on browsers though where that does not work
  340. # [15:12] <jeena_> ah hm ok, I see
  341. # [15:12] <jeena_> Ok thanks then I will do that instead.
  342. # [15:13] <jeena_> so the Enter within a <input> isn't something the W3C "dictated" but it just is a coincidence that it works in all browsers?
  343. # [15:14] <jeena_> (to send the form)
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  346. # [15:14] <annevk> jeena_: yeah
  347. # [15:14] <annevk> jeena_: prolly followed from UI conventions in operating systems
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  349. # [15:15] <jeena_> ok, thanks, then I understand. It is kind of obvious that not every browser will have a keyboard with a Ctrl key.
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  363. # [16:17] <MikeSmith> I see from https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=295420 that blink implementation is tracking https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=295420
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  383. # [16:44] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: done (re review).
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  385. # [16:44] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: btw any news on why http://qa-dev.w3.org:8888/ doesn't work (for me, at least)?
  386. # [16:44] <MikeSmith> review? which
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  390. # [16:46] <MikeSmith> about http://qa-dev.w3.org:8888/ it doesn't work because the parser hacks I made cause it to crash with a index-out-of-bounds error
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  392. # [16:46] <MikeSmith> and the reason for the index-out-of-bounds error is this:
  393. # [16:47] <MikeSmith> case AFTER_HEAD:$
  394. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> ...
  395. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> case BODY:
  396. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> pop();
  397. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> if (attributes.getLength() == 0) {
  398. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> appendToCurrentNodeAndPushBodyElement();
  399. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> } else {
  400. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> appendToCurrentNodeAndPushBodyElement(attributes);
  401. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> }
  402. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> the change I made was to add that pop()
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  404. # [16:49] <MikeSmith> but then it now gets to that appendToCurrentNodeAndPushBodyElement() call and that's what leads to the index-out-of-bounds exception
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  408. # [16:52] <MikeSmith> so it seems I need to do more than just simply add the "Pop the current node (which will be the head element) off the stack of open elements." step
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  411. # [16:55] <MikeSmith> because it's not finding what it needs when it tries to actually push that body element onto the stack
  412. # [16:55] <annevk> So if @@create is taken from the function object on which new was invoked, it seems new Node() could be made to throw. By checking after @@create if the proper bits are set, as peterv suggested.
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  521. # [21:40] <heycam> annevk, noted
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  524. # [21:59] <wilhelm> I'll be giving a talk to some web developers tomorrow on how the specification sausage factory actually works. (Or how it doesn't work.) Revisiting archives and minutes from 2004-2007 is rather amusing.
  525. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
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  527. # [22:04] <wilhelm> Indeed.
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  537. # [22:13] <odinho> annevk: What's status on Fetch btw? Esp. the new non-implemented/finished parts. How's the vendor interest there?
  538. # [22:13] <odinho> wilhelm: What web devs where?
  539. # [22:15] <annevk> odinho: such as?
  540. # [22:16] <annevk> odinho: dunno really, it's architecture, nobody really cares about getting that a 100% right
  541. # [22:16] <odinho> annevk: Well, I was thikning of the ZipArchive part. Because it's easiest to see.
  542. # [22:16] <annevk> odinho: might have something to do with yak shaving
  543. # [22:16] <annevk> odinho: ooh, that's kinda dodgy
  544. # [22:16] <annevk> odinho: given recent discussion I should maybe take that out again
  545. # [22:16] <odinho> Yeah, -- that looked a bit dodgy what with all the red.
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  560. # [22:44] <wilhelm> odinho: Internal training at a local development agency I'm doing some business with.
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  576. # [23:11] <Domenic_> MikeSmith: looks like you figured it out?
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  586. # [23:44] <Ms2ger> jgraham, r? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/31 if you're tired of servo at some point :)
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  589. # [23:50] <jgraham> I am generally just tired right now :)
  590. # [23:51] <jgraham> Will try to look in the morning
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