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  329. # [14:59] <JonathanNeal> Hello!
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  353. # [15:45] <wanderview> annevk: do you know if onbeforeevicted event is defined anywhere in more detail? (reading https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/611)
  354. # [15:45] <annevk> wanderview: I don't think it's more than an idea at this point
  355. # [15:45] <annevk> wanderview: I've heard about it before
  356. # [15:46] <wanderview> annevk: weird that its in the spec webidl then!
  357. # [15:46] <annevk> wanderview: ooh?
  358. # [15:46] <wanderview> annevk: https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/index.html#service-worker-global-scope
  359. # [15:46] <annevk> wanderview: not really sure what's going on then, JakeA?
  360. # [15:48] <slightlyoff> Kinuko is working on it now
  361. # [15:49] <slightlyoff> Work-in-progress
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  364. # [15:51] <annevk> slightlyoff: it seems wrong to put it in the spec if there's not even a proposal in public
  365. # [15:52] <slightlyoff> We're trying to get the full story together. Basically you need quota API + this to manage things intelligently, but this is just the minimal additive bit
  366. # [15:53] <annevk> Who is we? Google?
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  369. # [16:02] <JonathanNeal> Okay, I’m casting a net. I’m curious how many web devs deal with ad blockers and what they think about circumventing it: https://twitter.com/jon_neal/status/561177352143908864
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  411. # [17:46] <wanderview> annevk: does anything actually set Response.finalURL yet?
  412. # [17:48] <annevk> wanderview: web developers can
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  414. # [17:48] <wanderview> k
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  416. # [17:49] <annevk> wanderview: I don't think there's any spec stuff that would set it
  417. # [17:49] <annevk> philipj: hey so xml:base in Chromium is not actually causing anything it seems, right? It's just observable in some places?
  418. # [17:50] <philipj> annevk: it has an observable effect in one place, and that's where the use counter is
  419. # [17:50] <philipj> but the good news is that it just reached stable and stayed at 0%
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  421. # [17:51] <philipj> there's also SVGElement.xmlbase which I added a counter for just now
  422. # [17:51] <philipj> ed wrote https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Proposals/dropxmlattributes today after we discussed it
  423. # [17:51] <annevk> sweet
  424. # [17:52] <philipj> so I'd say xml:base is very likely killable
  425. # [17:52] <annevk> philipj: please don't let him introduce <svg:base> :-)
  426. # [17:52] <annevk> control over the base URL is so bad
  427. # [17:52] <philipj> is that a thing?
  428. # [17:52] <annevk> philipj: that wiki page suggests it might be
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  431. # [17:53] <philipj> annevk: oh. wouldn't it be exactly like <html:base>, presumably? that's not going anywhere, right?
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  435. # [17:54] <philipj> maybe you should email him or comment on https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=341854
  436. # [17:55] <annevk> philipj: html:base isn't going anywhere
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  439. # [17:56] <annevk> pinged ed on Mozilla IRC
  440. # [17:57] <philipj> I think he's ed_work on #blink too
  441. # [17:58] <annevk> okay, pinged that too for good measure
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  443. # [17:59] <philipj> FWIW, I find <base href> quite handy when reducing web sites to test cases
  444. # [17:59] <philipj> never used it for realz though
  445. # [18:00] <annevk> yeah, good for test cases is not a use case that flies
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  447. # [18:01] <philipj> not for test cases, only for arriving at test cases :)
  448. # [18:02] <philipj> I suppose that's even less avian :)
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  451. # [18:04] <jgraham> Critic (ab)uses <base> iirc
  452. # [18:06] <jgraham> I'm not defending <base> here, but "makes the platform more testable" doesn't seem like something categorically bad
  453. # [18:07] <annevk> the main badness with <base> is that a) it can appear anywhere and b) it's dynamic
  454. # [18:07] <annevk> of course, xml:base is even worse
  455. # [18:07] <annevk> all bad things have even worse twins
  456. # [18:08] <annevk> twin is not the right word
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  462. # [18:13] <Ms2ger> Cousins?
  463. # [18:14] <jgraham> Well XML is sort of the child of HTML and SGML
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  465. # [18:25] <annevk> philipj: if you have flex:1 and I propose flex:none
  466. # [18:26] <annevk> philipj: how does it sound good :p
  467. # [18:27] <philipj> annevk: I don't know what the difference is, not the same?
  468. # [18:27] <annevk> philipj: I have no idea either, I have yet to play with flexbox
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  472. # [18:29] <philipj> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-flexbox/#flex-property
  473. # [18:30] <philipj> apparently flex:none means flex:0 0 auto
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  477. # [18:36] <philipj> I commented on the bug again
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  479. # [18:38] <annevk> thanks
  480. # [18:38] <annevk> flex:1 is fine by me
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  482. # [18:38] <annevk> philipj: note that Chromium currently seems to restrict these styles to only a couple of elements
  483. # [18:39] <annevk> philipj: but I guess you already know that
  484. # [18:39] <philipj> yes, that too :/
  485. # [18:39] <philipj> I don't think that's likely to cause trouble
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  535. # [19:59] <rubys> annevk: nevermind. Figured it out :-)
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